Joe Rogan Experience #1353 - Rob Zombie

1. 0:00 – 15:00

   Here we go. Rob…

   1. JRJoe Rogan0:03

      Here we go. Rob Zombie, ladies and gentlemen. How are you, sir?

   2. RZRob Zombie0:06

      Good, good.

   3. JRJoe Rogan0:06

      Thanks for being here, man. I appreciate it.

   4. RZRob Zombie0:08

      Oh, yeah, it's awesome.

   5. JRJoe Rogan0:09

      Uh, 3 From Hell comes out tonight.

   6. RZRob Zombie0:11

      Yes, finally.

   7. JRJoe Rogan0:12

      It's such a crazy s- leap that you've made. I mean, people know you as much now for your films as they do for your music.

   8. RZRob Zombie0:22

      Yeah, pretty much. Especially, w- I've really noticed that when I'd be, like, in an elevator. Like, the music fans, I can pretty much spot them, you know, but, like, when some guy comes up to me in an elevator, looks like he's a lawyer or something-

   9. JRJoe Rogan0:33

      (laughs)

   10. RZRob Zombie0:33

       ... which I, I have to get to grips with that 'cause I'm not, you know, I'm old, that every time a cop comes up to me, I'm like, "What does this guy want?" I'm like, "Oh, he's-"

   11. JRJoe Rogan0:41

       Right.

   12. RZRob Zombie0:41

       "... like a fan 'cause he's 30 years younger than me." Um, but, like, yeah, when normal people, like, "Oh, man, I'm so into this or that." 'Cause-

   13. JRJoe Rogan0:47

       Yeah.

   14. RZRob Zombie0:47

       ... you know, I figure, like, you know, heavy metal music's very specific, but everybody likes movies.

   15. JRJoe Rogan0:53

       Right.

   16. RZRob Zombie0:53

       So you can never spot the fans.

   17. JRJoe Rogan0:54

       You can see a metal fan.

   18. RZRob Zombie0:54

       Yeah.

   19. JRJoe Rogan0:55

       Yeah.

   20. RZRob Zombie0:55

       Yeah. The, I can pretty much spot them.

   21. JRJoe Rogan0:57

       What do you look for? A metal fan? Like, what-

   22. RZRob Zombie1:00

       (laughs)

   23. JRJoe Rogan1:00

       ... what do you see, and, like, what's coming your way?

   24. RZRob Zombie1:02

       Well, it's changed, but now it's always a guy with a shaved head and a long goatee.

   25. JRJoe Rogan1:06

       D- dude, that's very similar-

   26. RZRob Zombie1:07

       Nobody has hair any-

   27. JRJoe Rogan1:07

       ... to MMA fans (laughs) .

   28. RZRob Zombie1:08

       Yeah, nobody has hair anymore. It's like, I swear sometimes I'm on stage and a fan's like, "Who's, what's with the long hair?"

   29. JRJoe Rogan1:13

       That's funny. Yeah, right? That was rock and roll. It was synonymous.

   30. RZRob Zombie1:16

       Yeah. It's, like, not, not anymore.
2. 15:00 – 30:00

   It was the greatest…

   1. JRJoe Rogan15:00

      guide with the paper and you'd figure out what's, what's gonna be on-

   2. RZRob Zombie15:02

      It was the greatest thing ever.

   3. JRJoe Rogan15:04

      ... and you'd look forward to stuff. We would look forward to what was going to be on TV.

   4. RZRob Zombie15:07

      Remember as a kid, like, you knew Planet of the Apes was gonna be on? Like, the whole neighborhood was on fire-

   5. JRJoe Rogan15:11

      Yes.

   6. RZRob Zombie15:11

      ... 'cause Planet of the Apes was gonna be on. Now it's like, "Whatever, it's on my phone right now."

   7. JRJoe Rogan15:14

      It's always there.

   8. RZRob Zombie15:16

      You know?

   9. JRJoe Rogan15:16

      Yeah.

   10. RZRob Zombie15:16

       But I think there's something... I, I... Don't you think? And, and I don't know how this figures into comedy, but I'm sure it does. There was something about having to be exposed to everything 'cause there was nothing else, that I know as much about John Wayne movies as I do about horror movies.

   11. JRJoe Rogan15:30

       Right, you didn't get to choose.

   12. RZRob Zombie15:31

       Whereas now everything's so compartmentalized that-

   13. JRJoe Rogan15:34

       Hmm.

   14. RZRob Zombie15:34

       ... people just like, y- guess, like if you hear a band, you go, "Let me guess what your favorite band is, the band you sound exactly like," because you have no other influences.

   15. JRJoe Rogan15:42

       Right.

   16. RZRob Zombie15:42

       As opposed to a lot of metal bands I know that are huge, they go like, "Well, my favorite band was actually ZZ Top, so we just decided to play ZZ Top riffs really fast, and that's how we created this." But now everybody's just so like, "I only like this."

   17. JRJoe Rogan15:54

       Yeah. The, you get in those, those confirmation bubbles where everybody else likes what you like and-

   18. RZRob Zombie16:00

       Yeah.

   19. JRJoe Rogan16:00

       ... you just operate in the same circles and, yeah. Yeah, you can get real weird that way.

   20. RZRob Zombie16:06

       Where it's weird, like, you just, it... But if you're taking influences from everywhere or stealing things from everywhere-

   21. JRJoe Rogan16:11

       Yeah.

   22. RZRob Zombie16:12

       ... you can put them together in a new way. But if you're like, "I only like metal," then yes, you sound like metal.

   23. JRJoe Rogan16:15

       But that's the cool thing about the radio, right? That d- I mean, I've, I've been recently listening to Spotify, which I never listened before, but listen to streaming services-

   24. RZRob Zombie16:24

       Yeah.

   25. JRJoe Rogan16:24

       ... so I get exposed to, you know, there's like a channel. Like, there'll be a Rob Zombie channel and there'll be a bunch of other shit on it as well. Like y- you know, like, there's Led Zeppelin channel-

   26. RZRob Zombie16:33

       Yeah.

   27. JRJoe Rogan16:33

       ... and you'll hear some weird music that you, you didn't expect from some bands you didn't even know of and I re- I miss that from radio.

   28. RZRob Zombie16:39

       Yeah, I mean I just wanna... 'Cause you want, you want that moment of like, "Oh, whoa, what's this?"

   29. JRJoe Rogan16:43

       Yeah, yeah.

   30. RZRob Zombie16:43

       "Wow, that's fucking cool. I'm gonna listen to that. I didn't know what it was five minutes ago."
3. 30:00 – 45:00

   As soon as that…

   1. JRJoe Rogan30:00

      time.

   2. RZRob Zombie30:00

      As soon as that movie started and the credits were food, I was like, "This is like the greatest thing I've ever seen in a theater-"

   3. JRJoe Rogan30:04

      (laughs)

   4. RZRob Zombie30:05

      "... in like 20 years. What is going on here?"

   5. JRJoe Rogan30:06

      Well, it's a... I just don't understand why they never made a second one.

   6. RZRob Zombie30:10

      I don't know.

   7. JRJoe Rogan30:11

      That didn't make any sense to me. I'm like, "This is a fucking franchise waiting to happen." Like, him and the- the other dude, the... wh- who was the guy who played his... was it his uncle?

   8. RZRob Zombie30:20

      Uncle Rico? (laughs)

   9. JRJoe Rogan30:21

      Yeah. I mean, fucking guy was amazing.

   10. RZRob Zombie30:23

       I know. (laughs)

   11. JRJoe Rogan30:24

       They- they- they were so, like, over the top but believable, like, everything about it.

   12. RZRob Zombie30:29

       Yeah. When he's feeding Tina. (laughs)

   13. JRJoe Rogan30:33

       (laughs)

   14. RZRob Zombie30:33

       Come on, Tina.

   15. JRJoe Rogan30:34

       It just doesn't seem...

   16. RZRob Zombie30:35

       (laughs)

   17. JRJoe Rogan30:35

       I just... uh, it doesn't seem like it could miss. I love that movie.

   18. RZRob Zombie30:39

       Yeah. Well-I could see them doing it now. (laughs)

   19. JRJoe Rogan30:42

       Yeah, but then-

   20. RZRob Zombie30:43

       50 years later.

   21. JRJoe Rogan30:43

       They tried to do that with Dumb and Dumber, remember? They-

   22. RZRob Zombie30:45

       Yeah.

   23. JRJoe Rogan30:46

       ... they did it way, way, way too late.

   24. RZRob Zombie30:47

       Yeah, that's a good-

   25. JRJoe Rogan30:48

       And, like, Jim Carrey's like 50 and everyone's like, "This is just weird. You're not young anymore."

   26. RZRob Zombie30:52

       Yeah.

   27. JRJoe Rogan30:53

       "You can't, you can't be a buffoon."

   28. RZRob Zombie30:54

       That's hard lightning in a bottle to recreate-

   29. JRJoe Rogan30:57

       Yeah.

   30. RZRob Zombie30:57

       ... Dumb and Dumber.
4. 45:00 – 1:00:00

   What happened to him?…

   1. RZRob Zombie45:00

      so I put some, there's something like that in the movie. But it just... Yeah.

   2. JRJoe Rogan45:03

      What happened to him?

   3. RZRob Zombie45:04

      I don't know.

   4. JRJoe Rogan45:06

      (laughs)

   5. RZRob Zombie45:06

      I don't know. He was like ran... He was knocking on people's doors like, "Ah, help me, let me in." And again, I was like, "Oh, that's weird." And I just went back and we continued rehearsing.

   6. JRJoe Rogan45:15

      Whoa.

   7. RZRob Zombie45:15

      Like, again-

   8. JRJoe Rogan45:17

      That must've flavored the music a little bit-

   9. RZRob Zombie45:19

      Yeah, I don't know.

   10. JRJoe Rogan45:19

       ... that day.

   11. RZRob Zombie45:19

       Just like, I should be, I should be really bothered by things like that, but I'm not.

   12. JRJoe Rogan45:24

       Yeah. Wow. I mean, there's a thing that happens when you see too much. It's one of the reasons why cops and soldiers have some of the oddest sense of humor.

   13. RZRob Zombie45:34

       I could see that.

   14. JRJoe Rogan45:35

       Yeah, they've just seen too many bodies. They've seen...

   15. RZRob Zombie45:37

       Yeah.

   16. JRJoe Rogan45:38

       Yeah.

   17. RZRob Zombie45:38

       I mean, imagine the guys that have to come scrape up all the stuff off the road-

   18. JRJoe Rogan45:42

       Oh, EMTs.

   19. RZRob Zombie45:42

       ... and put it in the bags. I mean-

   20. JRJoe Rogan45:43

       Yeah.

   21. RZRob Zombie45:43

       Yeah, I mean, that, after y- you know.

   22. JRJoe Rogan45:46

       Yeah.

   23. RZRob Zombie45:47

       But yeah, that was the life I remember. And I remember my mom's brother, he would always, uh, he... And he didn't always do this, but sometimes he... He was a biker, so he'd come over to the house and he had a chopper with iron crosses on it and he'd kind of look like Lemmy, the big mustache. And I was like, "This guy is badass." Like drives around the neighborhood so everyone can see us. You know, it was a lot of that stuff. (laughs)

   24. JRJoe Rogan46:05

       (laughs) That is... So when you were saying that you collect films and you have, uh, films, did you, do you go back to like the really old ones, like Nosferatu-

   25. RZRob Zombie46:14

       Oh, yeah.

   26. JRJoe Rogan46:14

       ... and shit like that?

   27. RZRob Zombie46:14

       I love silent movies.

   28. JRJoe Rogan46:15

       Yeah.

   29. RZRob Zombie46:15

       And now they're easier to get, 'cause I always loved Lon Chaney, but so many of the films-

   30. JRJoe Rogan46:18

       Yes.
5. 1:00:00 – 1:04:42

   (laughs) …

   1. RZRob Zombie1:00:00

      reacting to?

   2. JRJoe Rogan1:00:00

      (laughs)

   3. RZRob Zombie1:00:00

      Like, we haven't figured it out yet. And he said he was always in a constant state...

   4. JRJoe Rogan1:00:03

      Oh, God.

   5. RZRob Zombie1:00:03

      ... of confusion as to what he was reacting to.

   6. JRJoe Rogan1:00:07

      Oh, well it's hard too when you go back and you look at some of them. Like, uh, you know what movie got it right, that sort of didn't get enough respect in its time, but in, in, in time, like as time passed, it's become more respected? Is Starship Troopers. So-

   7. RZRob Zombie1:00:23

      Yeah. I don't re-... I don't remember that movie that well.

   8. JRJoe Rogan1:00:25

      It's, uh, you know, it's all like-

   9. RZRob Zombie1:00:26

      I thought you were gonna say Forrest Gump.

   10. JRJoe Rogan1:00:28

       ... killer bugs. Oh. (laughs) Sure.

   11. RZRob Zombie1:00:29

       No, but I like, they're like removing Major Dan's legs.

   12. JRJoe Rogan1:00:31

       Yeah.

   13. RZRob Zombie1:00:31

       I mean, that's like when CG is awesome. I thought, "Oh shit, they found a guy with no legs who's a great actor." (laughs) 'Cause I didn't know which Gary Sinise was back then.

   14. JRJoe Rogan1:00:37

       How about the ping pong scene?

   15. RZRob Zombie1:00:39

       Yeah, right.

   16. JRJoe Rogan1:00:39

       There's a lot of CGI shit.

   17. RZRob Zombie1:00:40

       Stuff like that's amazing.

   18. JRJoe Rogan1:00:41

       Yeah. The, um... What I was getting at with, with monster movies though, it's, um, uh, Pat Magee, he's the guy who did that werewolf, the one that's out there.

   19. RZRob Zombie1:00:51

       Oh, yeah.

   20. JRJoe Rogan1:00:51

       He, he'll make him for you, like he makes props.

   21. RZRob Zombie1:00:52

       Oh, really? Oh.

   22. JRJoe Rogan1:00:53

       And we had this conversation about it, and we were saying that, "You, you can see CGI, and even if it's awesome, your brain knows it's CGI."

   23. RZRob Zombie1:01:01

       That's funny that... I have that same thought, that it's something subliminally your brain knows it's all fake.

   24. JRJoe Rogan1:01:07

       Yes, like Godzilla.

   25. RZRob Zombie1:01:08

       Whereas like-Yeah, like Godzilla, like when you know it's a guy in a rubber suit-

   26. JRJoe Rogan1:01:13

       Correct.

   27. RZRob Zombie1:01:13

       ... crushing things, like if you watch the original one with, like when they cut in Raymond Burr, there's something so dark and fucked up about that movie.

   28. JRJoe Rogan1:01:20

       Yes.

   29. RZRob Zombie1:01:21

       'Cause everything's, that's real fire. There's actually three dimensional objects blowing up. But, when it's so big and fake, like I always say, like what's scarier, uh, a giant CG creature that you know you will never see, or like a maniac with a pillow case over his head holding an ax coming at you? Like your brain goes, "That could happen. I get it."

   30. JRJoe Rogan1:01:44

       Yes.

Episode duration: 2:06:01