Joe Rogan Experience #1355 - Mark Normand

1. 0:00 – 15:00

   Pen, Pen Gillette said…

   1. MNMark Normand0:00

      Pen, Pen Gillette said that.

   2. JRJoe Rogan0:02

      Pen Gillette told you that it's fort, not forte?

   3. MNMark Normand0:04

      Yeah. And he's, he don't, I don't fuck with-

   4. JRJoe Rogan0:06

      He's, he's a well-read man.

   5. MNMark Normand0:07

      Oh, yeah.

   6. JRJoe Rogan0:08

      He's, uh, he was just on.

   7. NANarrator0:10

      (laughs)

   8. MNMark Normand0:10

      Oh, yeah.

   9. JRJoe Rogan0:11

      He's an interesting cat. Is that true? Is he correct, Jamie?

   10. NANarrator0:14

       There's, uh-

   11. JRJoe Rogan0:14

       There's a little thing over the E, right?

   12. NANarrator0:15

       He gives two pronunciations for it.

   13. MNMark Normand0:16

       Ah.

   14. JRJoe Rogan0:17

       Ah.

   15. NANarrator0:17

       One is forte, like, f- yeah, how she wants.

   16. JRJoe Rogan0:19

       Well, that's like the word literally. You know, the, the term literally has, we've actually changed the meaning because so many people used it wrong.

   17. MNMark Normand0:26

       Mm-hmm.

   18. JRJoe Rogan0:26

       Okay, for-

   19. NANarrator0:28

       Forte with the A right there, to-

   20. JRJoe Rogan0:31

       Uh-huh.

   21. NANarrator0:32

       ... f- I don't know.

   22. MNMark Normand0:33

       And then, well, the A is first.

   23. JRJoe Rogan0:34

       And fort.

   24. NANarrator0:35

       And then they'll pronounce that O.

   25. JRJoe Rogan0:36

       Interesting. So there's two different ones. Huh.

   26. MNMark Normand0:39

       But it might be like selfie, how it just creates itself over a while, you know?

   27. JRJoe Rogan0:42

       Yeah. A thing that someone excels at. Small talk was not his forté or fort.

   28. MNMark Normand0:49

       (laughs)

   29. JRJoe Rogan0:49

       Well, maybe fort was original and then someone kept fucking it up, like tumeric.

   30. MNMark Normand0:55

       Yeah, turmeric.
2. 15:00 – 30:00

   Yeah. …

   1. JRJoe Rogan15:00

      you, you're ready, y- w- you're wearing the clothes they told you to wear. You're-

   2. MNMark Normand15:03

      Yeah.

   3. JRJoe Rogan15:03

      ... you're doing the lines in the script. We all-

   4. MNMark Normand15:06

      We all agreed on it.

   5. JRJoe Rogan15:06

      ... know that this ... We all agree that this is a dramatic interpretation. I don't know what you're doing when you're doing standup. Some people are just being, doing satire, right?

   6. MNMark Normand15:14

      Mm-hmm.

   7. JRJoe Rogan15:14

      Like some people are pretending to be racist, p- pretending to be, uh, a Republican asshole-

   8. MNMark Normand15:19

      Right.

   9. JRJoe Rogan15:19

      ... or repre- but they're, it's just a character.

   10. MNMark Normand15:21

       Yeah.

   11. JRJoe Rogan15:21

       We've ... There's a bunch of guys who do stuff like that. Or some people are, uh, you know, some people are sarcastic. Some people a- are like Jeselnik. They say the worst shit-

   12. MNMark Normand15:29

       Yeah.

   13. JRJoe Rogan15:30

       ... and it's always hilarious.

   14. MNMark Normand15:31

       I love him.

   15. JRJoe Rogan15:32

       I love him too, and what he's doing is he's, he's ... That's not who he is. These are great jokes.

   16. MNMark Normand15:37

       Yeah.

   17. JRJoe Rogan15:37

       You know, these ... He's not really lighting the maternity ward on fire.

   18. MNMark Normand15:41

       Sure.

   19. JRJoe Rogan15:41

       It's just the name of his special, right? It's like ... So there's a bunch of different kinds of c- And then there's other people that just fucking tell the truth, man. There's other people when they'll talk about all the weird shit in their personal life. They'll talk about anything.

   20. MNMark Normand15:53

       Yeah.

   21. JRJoe Rogan15:53

       And you go, "Oh, well, this is j- just a funny guy who's great at telling the truth." So it's like when you say, like, they're jokes, okay, but everybody does it different.

   22. MNMark Normand16:02

       Yeah.

   23. JRJoe Rogan16:02

       You know?

   24. MNMark Normand16:03

       But-

   25. JRJoe Rogan16:03

       And the problem is it sound- This is the real problem for people who aren't stand-ups. We're stand-ups, it makes sense to us. People who are fans of stand-up, it makes sense to them, but to regular folks who are getting mad, it seems like you're just talking.

   26. MNMark Normand16:16

       Yeah, but why do we buy the Jeselnik, but we don't buy the other guy?

   27. JRJoe Rogan16:19

       'Cause it's culturally convenient.

   28. MNMark Normand16:21

       Hmm. What do you mean?

   29. JRJoe Rogan16:23

       Well, some guys are better at it.

   30. MNMark Normand16:25

       Aha.
3. 30:00 – 45:00

   Yeah. Oh. …

   1. JRJoe Rogan30:00

      and ev- this great energy. Like, you're like, "Oh, this is so good."

   2. MNMark Normand30:03

      Yeah. Oh.

   3. JRJoe Rogan30:03

      You realize how good it is-

   4. MNMark Normand30:04

      The best.

   5. JRJoe Rogan30:04

      ... 'cause you did the corporate gig.

   6. MNMark Normand30:06

      Right, right.

   7. JRJoe Rogan30:06

      Like, maybe you wouldn't appreciate the, those club gigs-

   8. MNMark Normand30:09

      Of course.

   9. JRJoe Rogan30:10

      ... unless you had done the corporate gig.

   10. MNMark Normand30:11

       Do you remember when you found you? I remember where I was when ... I, I bombed for, like, three years straight when I started. And I remember how I clicked. I just came online and became who I am, and it changed everything.

   11. JRJoe Rogan30:22

       What'd you do?

   12. MNMark Normand30:23

       I was at a show at, called Moe Pitkins. That was the name of the bar. It was on Avenue A. And I was bombing, and I was doing my dumb horse shit observational. And this guy started heckling me. And I just-... after bombing and living in New York and having bedbugs and just being poor and sad and lonely and drunk, I just snapped on this guy and it was killing.

   13. JRJoe Rogan30:43

       (laughs)

   14. MNMark Normand30:43

       And I was, like, being me. And I was just calling this guy a piece of shit and like, "What's your life?" And I broke down his whole life and made him feel like an asshole. And I left there like, uh, I felt like a, a, an archangel. I was like a phoenix rising. It was amazing.

   15. JRJoe Rogan30:56

       So you've realized that you can be yourself and if you are yourself, you're even funnier.

   16. MNMark Normand31:00

       Exactly.

   17. JRJoe Rogan31:00

       Yeah.

   18. MNMark Normand31:00

       I was in this Seinfeldy, Paul Reiser shell.

   19. JRJoe Rogan31:03

       Mm.

   20. MNMark Normand31:04

       And I cla- I cracked that macadamia nut open and got out of there.

   21. JRJoe Rogan31:08

       (laughs)

   22. MNMark Normand31:08

       It was great.

   23. JRJoe Rogan31:09

       That's beautiful.

   24. MNMark Normand31:10

       I felt 10 feet tall.

   25. JRJoe Rogan31:11

       I love hearing stories like that.

   26. MNMark Normand31:12

       But I still bomb constantly.

   27. JRJoe Rogan31:14

       Well-

   28. MNMark Normand31:14

       You know.

   29. JRJoe Rogan31:15

       ... if you take chances, you're gonna bomb.

   30. MNMark Normand31:16

       Of course.
4. 45:00 – 1:00:00

   (laughs) …

   1. MNMark Normand45:00

   2. JRJoe Rogan45:00

      (laughs)

   3. MNMark Normand45:00

      ... biology is the ultimate misogynist-

   4. JRJoe Rogan45:03

      Sure.

   5. MNMark Normand45:03

      ... when you really break it down. You know?

   6. JRJoe Rogan45:05

      Yeah.

   7. MNMark Normand45:05

      Women get, they gotta get pregnant before this age, and then they also wanna have a career, but they wanna get, they gotta not, they wanna get knocked up, but then the tits and the boobs-

   8. JRJoe Rogan45:12

      Yeah.

   9. MNMark Normand45:12

      ... and the butt and the waist. It sucks.

   10. JRJoe Rogan45:14

       And some women want a career simply because they wanna show everybody that they're not inferior to men. Like-

   11. MNMark Normand45:22

       Yeah, that's weird, too.

   12. JRJoe Rogan45:23

       Yeah. It's like society's trick... Not, I'm not, I'm not saying trick them, but trapped them in this situation where not only do they have to have the babies.

   13. MNMark Normand45:31

       Yeah.

   14. JRJoe Rogan45:31

       They have to br- they have to create humans, and on top of that, they have to compete with men and show that they can.

   15. MNMark Normand45:37

       Right.

   16. JRJoe Rogan45:37

       So, I s- I always find that the women who are mothers but are also, like, corporate people, they're, like, insanely competitive.

   17. MNMark Normand45:45

       Yes.

   18. JRJoe Rogan45:46

       Well, you, you're, you're like, like a Gabrielle Reece. Like, if she went that way-

   19. MNMark Normand45:50

       Mm-hmm.

   20. JRJoe Rogan45:50

       ... if she went the corporate way, she'd be insanely competitive.

   21. MNMark Normand45:52

       Killer.

   22. JRJoe Rogan45:53

       Which is why she was this killer volleyball player.

   23. MNMark Normand45:55

       Right, right.

   24. JRJoe Rogan45:55

       And, you know, it's like, I really feel like that's a, that's a, a d- a really new thing for humans.

   25. MNMark Normand46:03

       Yeah.

   26. JRJoe Rogan46:03

       I mean, when, what year was it... I mean, not th- it's not that it's bad, because it's great that women have the option to do whatever they want.

   27. MNMark Normand46:10

       Yeah.

   28. JRJoe Rogan46:10

       But what I'm saying is just historically, how recent is it? 'Cause it seems like it's only within the last 100 years that women have had, like, this sort of kind of career, like working alongside men-

   29. MNMark Normand46:24

       Yeah.

   30. JRJoe Rogan46:24

       ... in business, in the boardrooms, and making these big decisions-
5. 1:00:00 – 1:02:45

   Yeah. …

   1. MNMark Normand1:00:00

      knock all that shit out with (click) one email?

   2. JRJoe Rogan1:00:02

      Yeah.

   3. MNMark Normand1:00:03

      D- All ... So think about all the time you've accumulated just from not doing that one thing-

   4. JRJoe Rogan1:00:08

      Yeah.

   5. MNMark Normand1:00:08

      ... let alone Ubering and, uh, flights. Remember you used to call the travel agency? Now you can just (snaps fingers) boop, I got an app. I got a Delta app.

   6. JRJoe Rogan1:00:17

      Whoa.

   7. MNMark Normand1:00:17

      It's ama- ... That's, that's so many minutes counting over and over through your whole life, so we can do pods, we can do comedy, we can do martial art, we can go to the gym. Before, people did one thing, you had Jack LaLanne, you know, he was just a workout guy, that was it. Now you're a fucking renaissance guy. You're all over the road, you got 12 hobbies and, and two kids. You're living.

   8. JRJoe Rogan1:00:37

      I've got three kids.

   9. MNMark Normand1:00:38

      And you're... Three? Sorry, shit, I thought one died.

   10. JRJoe Rogan1:00:40

       (laughs)

   11. MNMark Normand1:00:40

       But (laughs) , you know, you're on the road as well. I mean, we can do so much more because of all the time.

   12. JRJoe Rogan1:00:45

       Yeah, you can do a lot more. Yep.

   13. MNMark Normand1:00:45

       It's pretty amazing. You can get a, a shirt. "Oh, I like that shirt." Boom, it's at my house tomorrow.

   14. JRJoe Rogan1:00:49

       One click, Amazon.

   15. MNMark Normand1:00:50

       That's amazing. We, we got it-

   16. JRJoe Rogan1:00:51

       It's incredible.

   17. MNMark Normand1:00:52

       We're in a good time except for all the complaining. It's funny how you complain more when things are going great. The better things are, more people complain.

   18. JRJoe Rogan1:00:59

       I think the problem is more people have access to something that can broadca- broadcast their complaint. That's what it is.

   19. MNMark Normand1:01:05

       Sure, sure.

   20. JRJoe Rogan1:01:05

       It's not just that more people complain than ever before.

   21. MNMark Normand1:01:08

       I think... You go to some poor town in India, I think they're... Even when they show the African kids with the distended belly, none of them are going, "This sucks! I hate it here!" They're still just sad. They're not complaining.

   22. JRJoe Rogan1:01:18

       Right. Right.

   23. MNMark Normand1:01:18

       You go to a, an Indian town, I think, I think they're happier than we are.

   24. JRJoe Rogan1:01:21

       I think-

   25. MNMark Normand1:01:22

       Ironically.

   26. JRJoe Rogan1:01:22

       I just think it's a broadcast issue.

   27. MNMark Normand1:01:24

       I don't... I think that hurts it.

   28. JRJoe Rogan1:01:25

       I think it's a social media thing. Wait, I don't think it hurts it, I think that it is-

   29. MNMark Normand1:01:28

       I'm with you.

   30. JRJoe Rogan1:01:28

       That's the, that's where the signal's coming from. Otherwise, you would just be... These whiny people have always existed, we just didn't encounter them as, as frequently.

Episode duration: 3:21:45