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Joe Rogan Experience #1357 - Ari Shaffir

Ari Shaffir is a stand-up comedian and also hosts the podcasts "Ari Shaffir’s Skeptic Tank" & "Punch Drunk Sports."

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Oct 2, 20191h 41mWatch on YouTube ↗

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  1. 0:001:22

    Sober October rule-bending: cigars, cheating, and internet nitpicking

    1. JR

      Mm, Ari Shaffir, we're here.

    2. AS

      (laughs)

    3. JR

      It's Sober October.

    4. AS

      Bleh.

    5. JR

      Hey, are we allowed to smoke cigars or no?

    6. AS

      Yeah, we're allowed to smoke cigars.

    7. JR

      Let's smoke a cigar. Let's fucking bend the rules a little.

    8. AS

      I have three in my trunk.

    9. JR

      I have two right here.

    10. AS

      Oh, yeah.

    11. JR

      Yeah.

    12. AS

      I mean...

    13. JR

      These are good. I was, uh, smoking cigars with Burr on the show. People are gonna be mad at us.

    14. AS

      Why?

    15. JR

      "This is tobacco. You're using tobacco products. You're totally cheating."

    16. AS

      Well, they can suck my cheese.

    17. JR

      Hmm. Um, they can or it can?

    18. AS

      They can suck my cheese-

    19. JR

      Oh, okay. Sucking cheese.

    20. AS

      ... with their fucking stupid rules. It's already hard enough.

    21. JR

      Okay. Cheese.

    22. AS

      Do you remember one time-

    23. JR

      (laughs)

    24. AS

      ... you weren't, you weren't masturbating for a month?

    25. JR

      Yeah, true.

    26. AS

      You remember that?

    27. JR

      Yeah.

    28. AS

      And all those people were like, "Yeah, but you're having sex. Don't do it with sex." And you're like, "Dude, I'm not playing your game. I'm doing a thing for myself."

    29. JR

      Yeah. Doing my game. Yeah.

    30. AS

      (laughs) Everybody wants rules. I start working out. "Oh, what are you doing?" "Oh, just bench." "No, dude, you gotta do legs, or you're not doing anything." (laughs) You're like, "Can you give me two times?"

  2. 1:222:51

    Phone addiction experiments: flip phones, screen-time limits, and self-control

    1. JR

      Are you on that light phone now? What are you, when are you on that?

    2. AS

      No, it hasn't come yet. It's coming at the end of October.

    3. JR

      Oh.

    4. AS

      I, I'm trying a regular phone this month.

    5. JR

      A regular phone?

    6. AS

      Yeah. I, so I got a new number.

    7. JR

      Spark that.

    8. AS

      Oh, yeah. I got a new-

    9. JR

      Like a cell phone?

    10. AS

      Yeah.

    11. JR

      Like a real cell phone, like a smartphone?

    12. AS

      No, I got a new number and it's a regular flip phone.

    13. JR

      Okay.

    14. AS

      But the old number, I'm keeping it on on a smartphone.

    15. JR

      Ooh.

    16. AS

      And I'm seeing if I can handle it for a month.

    17. JR

      You can handle it.

    18. AS

      I don't know. Signs are not great already.

    19. JR

      (laughs)

    20. AS

      It's the fucking being alone and just kind of flipping through.

    21. JR

      Well-

    22. AS

      Watching Walking Dead and then flipping f- like, o- double screens.

    23. JR

      My daughter has, um, a phone now, but she has a little thing. My young, my middle daughter, not like the older one. That would be ridiculous. But, um, where you, she has a screen limitation, where she can only, uh, use the screen for-

    24. AS

      Can she turn it off?

    25. JR

      Can she? No.

    26. AS

      Yeah. It's not just on an alarm?

    27. JR

      No. She doesn't get to. We do it. So she got an hour. You got an hour.

    28. AS

      And then what happens after the hour?

    29. JR

      It stops working.

    30. AS

      What, what stops working?

  3. 2:516:47

    Sober October lore: Bert, Tom, and why competition got complicated

    1. JR

      I'm hoping that Bert and Tom both say that we cheated already.

    2. GU

      (laughs)

    3. JR

      Because we're smoking cigars-

    4. AS

      And then we're out.

    5. JR

      ... and we're good.

    6. AS

      Dude, the first year-

    7. JR

      I'll take everybody to dinner somewhere.

    8. AS

      S- somebody said kombucha. They were like, "Kombucha already cheated." I was like, "Guys, you tell me right now if this is cheating, 'cause I'm done."

    9. JR

      Yeah.

    10. AS

      It's cool. I'm out.

    11. JR

      One of the great things about our contest is there's no real ramifications other than talking shit. You know, like, Bert came in last, but what happened to him? Nothing.

    12. AS

      What happened to him?

    13. JR

      Nothing.

    14. AS

      Nothing.

    15. JR

      He, he just talked, we just talked shit about him.

    16. GU

      (laughs)

    17. AS

      Fuck him. All he did was talk shit and then dealt with no repercussions.

    18. JR

      We all knew that we couldn't lose to Bert. That was, that was, um, a massive motivating factor for everyone, including Tom. Remember when Tom came back and he ran 13 fucking miles?

    19. AS

      He was done. On injury, he was done.

    20. JR

      Well, he was sick. He got really sick. He caught the flu.

    21. AS

      Yeah, yeah.

    22. JR

      And he came back, and the day back, he ran 13 fucking miles.

    23. AS

      To try to, like, catch up.

    24. JR

      And he did catch up.

    25. AS

      He did.

    26. JR

      Catch up and pass him. Bert was like, "What are you doing? I thought I was winning. I thought I was gonna win."

    27. AS

      (laughs)

    28. JR

      "Let's hip hop dance."

    29. AS

      (laughs)

    30. JR

      "What are you doing? What are you doing? I thought I was gonna win."

  4. 6:478:19

    Mushrooms, phone misery, and the slippery aftermath of heavy psychedelics

    1. JR

      Can you imagine what kind of a person you'd be at the end of the month if you did mushrooms every other day?

    2. AS

      Can I tell you a story?

    3. JR

      Sure.

    4. AS

      So I went to a music festival and there was this guy who had ... A lot of my camp had never done any mushrooms. And this guy did mushrooms for four straight days. Four straight days. He, the second day he was like, "Can we do mushrooms again?" I'm like, "I ... They're not gonna work, you really have to do twice as much." He just kept going. Third day, kept going, just munching mushrooms. Four days. Didn't touch his phone at all. Didn't touch it. He had like 4% battery the whole time it was off. And then he turned it on and he texted and he had to tell work he wasn't gonna come in the Monday. You know? He'll work from home. They gave him some shit and he just looked at his phone. After being on shrooms for four days, he looked at his phone, he could just see it rush into his head like, "This thing brings me such fucking misery and I had such a good time without it." And you could just see all that sweat on his head, he just goes, and he fucking launches it.

    5. JR

      Whoa.

    6. AS

      He just chucked his fucking iPhone as far as he could.

    7. JR

      Wow.

    8. AS

      Yeah. (laughs) It was such a great moment. You can't do mushrooms too many days in a row, you get fucked up.

    9. JR

      Yeah, what, did he d- did he sober up after that and then call his-

    10. AS

      No, his friend-

    11. JR

      ... job and apologize and get a new phone?

    12. AS

      ... his other f- his other friend went and got it and like held it and pointed it out. I'm like, "No, I'm holding this for you." (laughs)

    13. JR

      (laughs) It wasn't broken?

    14. AS

      No, it didn't break.

    15. JR

      That's amazing.

    16. AS

      (laughs)

    17. JR

      Where were you guys at? Was it dirt you threw it on?

    18. AS

      It was on a dirt/rock path, yeah. Yeah.

    19. JR

      So it could've easily hit a rock.

    20. AS

      Yeah, easily.

    21. JR

      Oof. Do you have a case on it?

    22. AS

      I don't know. (laughs) I don't know. I think more the point is that he threw it.

  5. 8:1912:12

    Fragile tech and expensive gadgets: cases, folding phones, and the Light Phone idea

    1. JR

      The new ones are supposed to be way more resistant, to drop it.

    2. AS

      I love how the, as soon as they came out, they were like, "Oh, and if you drop it from more than a foot away, it's gonna break, this grand new design, the iPhone 2010."

    3. JR

      Yeah. It is a weird thing, right, where guarantee you're gonna drop it.

    4. AS

      Guarantee.

    5. JR

      And guarantee if you drop it, it's gonna break. Like I had Neil deGrasse Tyson on recently and he's always got NoCase on his phone, that's the thing. He marvels about the, the, the design, it's amazing design. And what you do is you get Jamie rocks NoCase because of Neil deGrasse Tyson's big old comment.

    6. AS

      You gotta listen to him.

    7. JR

      over there.

    8. AS

      Yeah.

    9. JR

      (laughs)

    10. AS

      Why, what'd he say?

    11. JR

      But anyway, he came back and his fucking phone was broken.

    12. AS

      Really?

    13. JR

      He had dropped it, 'cause he pulled his pants off, like, or, uh, his jacket off or something like that, and it was in the pocket of his jacket and it fell to the floor when he, like, pulled his jacket off the couch.

    14. AS

      Oh, yeah, he didn't g- he didn't account for the centrifugal force of his pants coming down, off the-

    15. JR

      And gravity.

    16. AS

      ... off the torque-

    17. JR

      Yes.

    18. AS

      ... off all that.

    19. JR

      Exactly.

    20. AS

      It didn't account.

    21. JR

      So he has this Starry Night van Gogh painting, it's-

    22. AS

      It's all shattered.

    23. JR

      ... like a, a thing on his back, the back of his phone, and little bits of glass were coming off it and he realized that it was cracked. Like, "Ha ha, I got a case on mine."

    24. AS

      (laughs) Ha ha, you're not smart.

    25. JR

      "Ha ha, so smart that you don't have a case." But it is weird that there, we have this super expensive thing that everybody carries around with them that if you do drop it, it will get fucked up.

    26. AS

      Yeah.

    27. JR

      What, man? What? Did you see that new Fold phone that costs like $2000? The Galaxy-

    28. AS

      I heard about those years ago.

    29. JR

      ... you can't even use a pen or you can't use your fingernail or anything, it'll scratch the screen.

    30. AS

      Oh what? That's crazy high.

  6. 12:1220:05

    From Joker hype to Terrence Howard: when ‘genius’ sounds like DMT

    1. AS

      I'm excited for Joker.

    2. JR

      Yeah. Looks, looks pretty good.

    3. AS

      It does look pretty good.

    4. JR

      Remember when Joaquin Phoenix was pretending to be crazy?

    5. AS

      Yeah. What was that? And you could sort of tell at the time that he was sort of pretending.

    6. JR

      Yeah, yeah.

    7. AS

      He was, he's-

    8. JR

      He was, he had a character he was doing for a documentary.

    9. AS

      Yeah. And it was like, "What, what is this? I don't get it." Have ... Did you see the guy from Empire's, um, speech, like, interview?

    10. JR

      Yes. Yes.

    11. AS

      Wow.

    12. JR

      Yes. Yes.

    13. AS

      Like, that seems-

    14. JR

      Terrence-

    15. AS

      ... almost like he's not preten- ... Like, he's, if he's-

    16. JR

      Oh.

    17. AS

      ... pretending, he's doing a better job acting than Jaoquin Phoenix did.

    18. JR

      What is his ... Terrence?

    19. GU

      Terrence Howard. Yeah. He saw a-

    20. AS

      How ... Yeah.

    21. GU

      ... Flower of Life or something.

    22. JR

      Well, Terrence Howard, uh, the guy who interviewed me for Rolling Stone, told me that Terrence Howard is, like, a legitimate genius. Like, he's like ... He talked to the guy. The guy's absolutely brilliant.

    23. AS

      Maybe he figured it all out.

    24. JR

      I think he got high as fuck on DMT. That's what it sounds like. He's talking about flowers and-

    25. AS

      He figured it all out. Yeah. It does sound-

    26. JR

      Yeah.

    27. AS

      ... like that, right?

    28. JR

      100%. Yeah.

    29. AS

      Yeah. It all makes sense. Like, the i- ... But the inability to explain it, just kinda like, "It's all connected." (laughs)

    30. JR

      But he was ex- not explaining it very well, but very articulately. Like, he was using ... It wasn't, like, nonsense talk.

  7. 20:0525:57

    Comics, the Comedy Store pipeline, and building sets like tools

    1. AS

      How shitty is standup when, on your way down, that's what people go into before their last step out-

    2. JR

      Right.

    3. AS

      ... of st- out of complete, um, show biz.

    4. JR

      Marty Daniels is doing standup now.

    5. AS

      Piven.

    6. JR

      Yep.

    7. AS

      Yeah, they're all like, "Well-"

    8. JR

      Yep.

    9. AS

      "... I'm gonna just try this at the end."

    10. JR

      Well, standup, if y- look.

    11. AS

      No respect. (laughs)

    12. JR

      But here's the thing, if they did it and loved it and respected it and was fucking gung-ho for it, um, I d- I have a unique opinion. I mean, I know a lot of comics get real mad at people trying to do comedy.

    13. AS

      Yeah.

    14. JR

      I feel like anybody trying to do comedy is a comic.

    15. AS

      Yeah.

    16. JR

      If, if you respect it and you treat it well. That's how I've always treated open micers. If you are an open micer-

    17. AS

      Yeah.

    18. JR

      ... in my opinion, you are a comic. You, you're one of us.

    19. AS

      Except the no Black thing you always say.

    20. JR

      No, no, no. Not's not anymore. I've been-

    21. AS

      Oh.

    22. JR

      No.

    23. AS

      Oh, oh, oh. Sorry.

    24. JR

      No, no, no. It's, uh-

    25. AS

      Oh, oh, oh. You woke up.

    26. JR

      Yeah, yeah, yeah.

    27. AS

      You woke up. Sorry, sorry. (laughs)

    28. JR

      I got woke.

    29. AS

      Yeah. (laughs)

    30. JR

      No. No, it's- now it's, uh, it's only Asians of a certain... No, I'm just-

  8. 25:5727:08

    Comedy vs outrage culture: Chappelle, Burr, ‘woke theology,’ and platform fear

    1. JR

      You know, you, you said something that I think is so true, that this is a great time for real comedy.

    2. AS

      Yeah.

    3. JR

      Yeah.

    4. AS

      It's great.

    5. JR

      Just comedy's dangerous again.

    6. AS

      Ah, it's so much fun.

    7. JR

      Yeah.

    8. AS

      People hear stuff and they're like, "Whoa."

    9. JR

      Yeah.

    10. AS

      It's back into these little basement rooms. Everyone's attacking it all the time. It's so great. (laughs) You know when people get mad at you for saying something like harsh?

    11. JR

      Yeah.

    12. AS

      And you walk through it like, "Fuck you!"

    13. JR

      Yeah.

    14. AS

      'Cause you know like you made some Catholic joke and they're all like butt hurt 'cause they're Catholic.

    15. JR

      Yeah.

    16. AS

      You know, and you got them. And you know it's okay 'cause they're only there la- angry and everyone else is laughing like crazy.

    17. JR

      Yeah.

    18. AS

      Now, the scale of that is just way larger.

    19. JR

      Yeah.

    20. AS

      Your stuff can go out and just like get a bunch of people angry.

    21. JR

      (laughs)

    22. AS

      Which is the people that are cool enough to like actually like the stuff. It feels way more dangerous and fun.

    23. JR

      You know what we should do with this podcast with Tom and Bert? We should do like buds training, bring in buckets of ice and just have vodka all over the table.

    24. AS

      Oh, to see if they'll be okay.

    25. JR

      Yeah, to see if they tap, they ring the bell.

    26. AS

      Yeah.

    27. JR

      (coughs)

    28. AS

      I could see Bert doing that.

    29. JR

      We could talk Bert into ringing the bell, especially if we tell him we smoked cigars when we got high.

    30. AS

      We smoke cigars laced with, uh, formaldehyde.

  9. 27:0848:20

    Police shooting case detour: wrong apartment, fear responses, and legal labels

    1. JR

      Did you hear about that lady? This has nothing to do with that.

    2. AS

      What?

    3. JR

      But she just got convicted today of murder. She walked into the wrong apartment.

    4. AS

      Oh, a cop, right?

    5. JR

      And she thought... Yup, she thought this guy was in her apartment, she shot him and killed him and she-

    6. AS

      She said, "Let me see your hands."

    7. JR

      Yeah.

    8. AS

      And, and but he... And from his point of view it was like, "What? Who the fuck are you?"

    9. JR

      Right.

    10. AS

      "Let me see your hands."

    11. JR

      Yeah.

    12. AS

      And she shot him.

    13. JR

      I didn't hear that part, but I just know that she shot him and murdered him accidentally.

    14. AS

      Yeah.

    15. JR

      She thought he was in her place.

    16. AS

      Yeah. She, yeah, it's a to- it's like I heard her like crying on the stand.

    17. JR

      Oh, yeah.

    18. AS

      And it was like, damn, I... But it's just like I don't know, why do you keep going and shooting?

    19. JR

      Right, why isn't she shooting right away?

    20. AS

      You know what I mean? Why not just don't shoot?

    21. JR

      Right. Did the guy run at you?

    22. AS

      Yeah, I... It's like...

    23. JR

      Like when do you shoot someone if you find them in your house?

    24. AS

      Is the training wrong? Why unarmed people are getting shot? It's not even like, "Hey, can I get a sandwich real quick?"

    25. JR

      Right.

    26. AS

      It's not even like that.

    27. JR

      Right, right.

    28. AS

      It's just like, I mean, you got it wrong. At very least you got it wrong.

    29. JR

      Well, I- I've said this many times that I think the vast majority of interactions that people have with police ar-... They're positive, there's no problem.

    30. AS

      Yeah.

  10. 48:201:03:13

    Berlin nightclub culture: phone stickers, marathon partying, and total debauchery

    1. AS

      ... nightclub in Germany, in Berlin. It was fucking so fun. Dude, I've been having fun going around places.

    2. JR

      Yeah? Tell me.

    3. AS

      Yeah, yeah.

    4. JR

      What did, what was it?

    5. AS

      Um, okay. (laughs)

    6. JR

      Whoa.

    7. AS

      It's fucking nuts. They do shit on another level there. I'm not into EDM and stuff, but like, it was great. As soon as you walk in, it's like, okay, first of all, you can't even get in. Oh my God. Okay, the first thing you see when you get in is just a bunch of people in leather, worn out. It goes from Friday night midnight until, like, Monday at about noon.

    8. JR

      Whoa.

    9. AS

      And you can just stay in and do hella drugs and just dance for, like, techno and, like, house music on different floors.

    10. JR

      People die in there?

    11. AS

      They must. They must.

    12. JR

      They must. They must go too hard and have heart attacks.

    13. AS

      Yeah, but everyone ... Yeah, they must.

    14. JR

      Yeah.

    15. AS

      But when you're down there, it's on the third d- level where there's no ... And there's people just coming down. I went in like a day and a half, so it was like Sunday when I went. So people were just like, out of it, sweaty, girls with, like, tutus and like, whatever. There's a coat check place where somebody said, um, somebody checked their gimp one time.

    16. JR

      Whoa.

    17. AS

      Yeah.

    18. JR

      Into the coat check place?

    19. AS

      Yeah, like, "You gotta stay here for me."

    20. JR

      Make him wait?

    21. AS

      Yeah.

    22. JR

      Wow.

    23. AS

      Okay.... the very first thing I saw. I go in, it's overwhelming. Me and my promoter were there and we're like, "This is fucking too much." And, uh, we're like, "All right, let's get beers." And I saw ... (laughs) This is so great, dude. It, the way to get in is just to wear all black or wear leather, or just be with gay people. Gay people just get in and they make sure it's, like, a good time for everybody. And, uh, they make you put a sticker over your phone. No pictures. They'll throw you the fuck out. Do whatever drugs you want. Anyway, as soon as I see that, there's a guy at the end of the bar just getting jerked off as he's ordering.

    24. JR

      By a guy or a girl?

    25. AS

      By a guy.

    26. JR

      Jerked off by a guy?

    27. AS

      Yeah. Yeah.

    28. JR

      Okay.

    29. AS

      And he's fucking ... (laughs) Order the beer, out of it on drugs-

    30. JR

      Right.

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