Joe Rogan Experience #1364 - Brian Redban

1. 0:04 – 1:29

   Redban skips Sober October: Tyson weed, loopholes, and why the challenge matters anyway

   1. JRJoe Rogan0:04

      Hello, Joe.

   2. BRBrian Redban0:04

      Hello, Brian.

   3. JRJoe Rogan0:04

      What are you doing?

   4. BRBrian Redban0:06

      Just hanging.

   5. JRJoe Rogan0:07

      Yeah, um, you're not sober are you? Y- this isn't Sober October for you?

   6. BRBrian Redban0:10

      Uh, no.

   7. JRJoe Rogan0:11

      You're not doing it?

   8. BRBrian Redban0:12

      Nah.

   9. JRJoe Rogan0:12

      No? You can get high? I'll watch.

   10. BRBrian Redban0:13

       Okay.

   11. JRJoe Rogan0:14

       If you want me to.

   12. BRBrian Redban0:14

       Can I blow it on you?

   13. JRJoe Rogan0:15

       Yeah, yeah, yeah.

   14. BRBrian Redban0:16

       (laughs)

   15. JRJoe Rogan0:16

       I don't think that counts.

   16. JVJamie Vernon0:17

       There's, uh ... Yeah, I would take one of these.

   17. JRJoe Rogan0:19

       It's gotta be ... Oh, this is a joint. This, this fat right here.

   18. BRBrian Redban0:21

       Oh, really?

   19. JRJoe Rogan0:22

       Yeah, that's all weed. That's Mike Tyson's weed.

   20. BRBrian Redban0:24

       Oh, sweet.

   21. JRJoe Rogan0:25

       Yeah. Look at this, I got a, a torch.

   22. BRBrian Redban0:28

       Oh, you got a cigarette lighter.

   23. JRJoe Rogan0:29

       A cigar torch. I could smoke a cigar with you.

   24. BRBrian Redban0:30

       Oh, sweet.

   25. JRJoe Rogan0:31

       That's legal. We, Ari and I were thinking that when we started Sober October, we started smoking cigars, we were thinking maybe that will disqualify us, and we could just quit.

   26. BRBrian Redban0:40

       Yeah, what does ... Like, komb, kombucha has alcohol in it.

   27. JRJoe Rogan0:43

       Kombucha?

   28. BRBrian Redban0:43

       Yeah. (laughs)

   29. JRJoe Rogan0:44

       Yeah. But it's, it can't really get you drunk, you stay sober. You would have to drink a case of it to even catch a buzz.

   30. JVJamie Vernon0:49

       (coughs) But if you scheduled a doctor's appointment, like a dentist appointment and they gave you some, uh-
2. 1:29 – 4:32

   Keto backlash, fruit cravings, and a detour into “racist watermelon” and durian funk

   1. JRJoe Rogan1:29

      Um, I'll tell you what, though. I've been getting a lot of messages from people that are inspired, and it makes me feel real good. I- I, I reached out to some dude yesterday on Instagram 'cause he lost something like 200 fucking pounds. You know? I mean, it's crazy. That's the dude who had the scars all over 'cause he, uh, he got his, uh, l- l- the extra skin removed after he lost all the weight. It's amazing. Sober October, you know, uh, sometimes you just have to have a thing like that where everybody goes, "I'm gonna do it too." And then it gives you the reason, like a motivation to get going. That, sometimes that's all people need, man.

   2. BRBrian Redban2:05

      Yeah, I just got over the, the keto thing, so now I'm just like, "Fuck that." I, uh, I feel like, uh, I'm free again, like I can, you know, have normal food again. And that, that's hard to do, man. That, th-

   3. JRJoe Rogan2:16

      Keto's hard to do.

   4. BRBrian Redban2:17

      It, it, it kinda got to me to the point where now I'm, like, doing the opposite. Like, I'm just like, "I wanna eat everything 'cause I, I've been wanting to eat pizza for so long." And, you know.

   5. JRJoe Rogan2:26

      Like Catholic schoolgirls.

   6. BRBrian Redban2:27

      (laughs) Yeah.

   7. JRJoe Rogan2:28

      You tell them to stay away from tech and they can't wait to get a hold of one.

   8. BRBrian Redban2:30

      R- uh, yeah, 100%.

   9. JRJoe Rogan2:31

      That's what it is. It's, uh, uh, people don't like being told what to do. They don't like, um, being forced into something that they don't enjoy. That's, you know, that's why school is ineffective. That's why so many things don't work. But the, the keto thing, the problem with it is, um, I, I think it's a healthy thing for a lot of folks. If you have epilepsy, apparently it's the thing, because it can stop your seizures. You know, there's people that have epilepsy, they, they get ketogenic and it just kicks it, k- kicks it off. It just, you don't, you don't get seizures anymore. But it's boring.

   10. BRBrian Redban3:05

       Yeah.

   11. JRJoe Rogan3:06

       Every now and then I want pasta, and also fruit. I like fruit.

   12. BRBrian Redban3:10

       That was the biggest one for me, just fruit. Like, watermelon. You know how great just having some watermelon in the morning is, you know?

   13. JRJoe Rogan3:15

       Oh my God. It's the most delicious fruit ever, I think.

   14. BRBrian Redban3:18

       Yeah.

   15. JRJoe Rogan3:18

       Like, a good, perfect watermelon on a hot day? My God, it's amazing. You know, it's fu- ... It's a fucked up fruit though, 'cause it's the only racist fruit.

   16. BRBrian Redban3:28

       (laughs)

   17. JRJoe Rogan3:29

       You know? It's like the only fruit that's attached to racism. There's no other fruit where you can make fun of someone for eating it, it's like racist. Have you ever had that, um, durian shit?

   18. BRBrian Redban3:40

       (coughs) Yeah. That sh- it's good.

   19. JRJoe Rogan3:42

       It's not bad, right?

   20. BRBrian Redban3:43

       Yeah.

   21. JRJoe Rogan3:43

       But God, it smells weird.

   22. BRBrian Redban3:44

       It smells horrible.

   23. JRJoe Rogan3:44

       It's ... S-

   24. BRBrian Redban3:44

       It smells horrible.

   25. JRJoe Rogan3:45

       Have you had it, Jamie?

   26. JVJamie Vernon3:46

       No, this is ...

   27. JRJoe Rogan3:47

       It's like, they have it in Thailand. In Thailand, they love it. I tried it in Thailand. It's like this weird ...

   28. BRBrian Redban3:52

       It's like spiky looking.

   29. JRJoe Rogan3:53

       Yeah, spiky on the outside, and then the inside, it's kinda mango-like.

   30. BRBrian Redban3:57

       Mm-hmm.
3. 4:32 – 8:01

   Intermittent fasting, sleepwalking stories, and weight-loss photo psychology

   1. BRBrian Redban4:32

      My friend did that fasting diet, you know?

   2. JRJoe Rogan4:34

      What's that?

   3. BRBrian Redban4:35

      T- that, that one that everyone s- ... Not fasting, the one th- where you only eat, like, a small part of the day, uh.

   4. JRJoe Rogan4:40

      Yeah, I do that.

   5. BRBrian Redban4:40

      Yeah.

   6. JRJoe Rogan4:41

      Intermittent fasting.

   7. BRBrian Redban4:41

      Intermittent fasting.

   8. JRJoe Rogan4:42

      Yeah.

   9. BRBrian Redban4:42

      And, uh, he woke up, uh, sleepwalking one night.

   10. JVJamie Vernon4:47

       Hmm.

   11. BRBrian Redban4:47

       And, uh, found out on his nest cams, like, his, his security cameras, he, he goes into the bathroom, passes and, like, kno- falls down and hits his head.

   12. JRJoe Rogan4:57

       (laughs)

   13. BRBrian Redban4:57

       And he showed a picture, there was just blood everywhere in his bathroom. Goes back to bed, didn't even know about it. Wakes up and he sees blood everywhere, uh, checks his cameras, found out he's sleepwalking. Couple days later, he starts having seizures, like, like, out of the blue. Goes to the doctor and the doctor says it's because of that, that diet he was doing. His brain was starving. That's what that doctor said, by the way.

   14. JRJoe Rogan5:17

       That doctor's making shit up.

   15. BRBrian Redban5:18

       Yeah, you think that it's-

   16. JRJoe Rogan5:19

       That guy, yeah, that guy needs to go to the neurologist.

   17. BRBrian Redban5:22

       (laughs)

   18. JRJoe Rogan5:22

       He's probably got a fucking brain tumor.

   19. BRBrian Redban5:23

       One thing, though, I did know-

   20. JRJoe Rogan5:25

       (laughs)

   21. BRBrian Redban5:25

       ... is that when I was on keto, uh, I slept walked a lot. And it r- I think it was my body trying to find sugar be-

   22. JRJoe Rogan5:32

       Really?

   23. BRBrian Redban5:32

       Yeah. Uh, 'cause I never sleepwalk 'cause I have cameras in my living room and, uh-

   24. JRJoe Rogan5:37

       I can't do this on podcast.

   25. BRBrian Redban5:38

       Yeah, I know, it's kinda weird. But, uh, when I was on keto I slept walked maybe 10 times. Haven't, uh, since I've been off, haven't slept walked once. And I-

   26. JRJoe Rogan5:45

       Can you say slepwalk? Is that the right ...

   27. BRBrian Redban5:47

       Slepwalk.

   28. JRJoe Rogan5:48

       It's sleepwalked.

   29. JVJamie Vernon5:49

       It's slepwalked.

   30. JRJoe Rogan5:49

       Is it sleep ... When you talk about it past tense-
4. 8:01 – 9:54

   Bodybuilding extremes: shredded physiques, durability, and Rogan’s anorexia fears

   1. JRJoe Rogan8:01

      Yeah, I follow a lot of, uh, bodybuilder girls. And I don't know why it's disturbing to me, but when they, they start cutting down weight, and then you see them, like, monitoring their food and watching their portions and shit, and they're getting leaner and leaner, it bothers me. Like, I get nervous.

   2. BRBrian Redban8:17

      (laughs) Why?

   3. JRJoe Rogan8:18

      I don't know. I'm like, it's just like, don't do that. Like, ugh. It's fucking... Why? Like, what are you doing? Just losing all your fat? Just so you can get on stage and squeeze everything?

   4. BRBrian Redban8:28

      Mm-hmm.

   5. JRJoe Rogan8:29

      And pose? I get it, you know. But I don't... See, I don't think that looks the best. That's what I don't understand. That's what weirds me out. I don't think it looks the best, especially for ladies, when you're, like, super shredded. It just doesn't...

   6. BRBrian Redban8:45

      I don't even like when they have those, those man shoulders. You know, where you see, like, a really gir- beautiful girl, and then she takes off her cardigan or whatever, and you're like, "Oh, she has... Like, her frame looks like a, a man."

   7. JRJoe Rogan8:54

      Mm.

   8. BRBrian Redban8:54

      I don't like that.

   9. JRJoe Rogan8:55

      That doesn't bother me.

   10. BRBrian Redban8:56

       Oh.

   11. JRJoe Rogan8:56

       That means she's durable.

   12. BRBrian Redban8:57

       (laughs)

   13. JRJoe Rogan9:00

       (laughs) It bothers me when they get shredded. I don't know why. It just se- it seems like they're suffering. Like, it's... It seems like a mistake. You know what I mean? Like, like, I guess maybe... I guess this is probably what it is. I guess I connect it to anorexics, 'cause anorexics legitimately freak me out. There was this one girl that I used to do yoga with, and it was so sad, man. It was so sad. She would come in and eat, everyone would be like, "Fuck." She was like 80 pounds. Her whole body was bones. She was just bones.

   14. BRBrian Redban9:31

       Joaquin Phoenix in The Joker.

   15. JRJoe Rogan9:33

       Oh, my God.

   16. BRBrian Redban9:33

       What the fuck did he do to get down to that?

   17. JRJoe Rogan9:34

       He lost 50 pounds.

   18. BRBrian Redban9:35

       And his shoulder looked all fucked up too, which, it could've been... Yeah, yeah.

   19. JRJoe Rogan9:37

       Well, he was just posing in weird ways to... I mean, he nailed that role, dude. He really-

   20. BRBrian Redban9:43

       I haven't seen it. I didn't want to say, say too much, but-

   21. JRJoe Rogan9:44

       Okay. No spoilers.

   22. BRBrian Redban9:45

       So you're s- you think I should go to the theater for this one?

   23. JRJoe Rogan9:49

       No, you can watch it at home.

   24. BRBrian Redban9:50

       Okay.

   25. JRJoe Rogan9:50

       I mean, when's it coming out at home?

   26. BRBrian Redban9:52

       You'd have to wait. It just came out.

   27. JVJamie Vernon9:53

       Two months.

   28. BRBrian Redban9:53

       So you still have to wait.

5. 9:54 – 13:31

   Movie-watching economics: home releases, theater rentals, and Joey Diaz’s Rambo pitch

   1. JRJoe Rogan9:54

      Oh, there's a new thing apparently where you can get home movies at home. Or... Home movies at home.

   2. BRBrian Redban10:00

      Torrents?

   3. JRJoe Rogan10:01

      You can get theater mo... No, no, not even torrents. You can get it, like, legitimately, and you pay quite a bit of money.

   4. BRBrian Redban10:07

      Really?

   5. JRJoe Rogan10:07

      But... Yeah, yeah, yeah. There's, uh, some new thing.

   6. BRBrian Redban10:11

      Yeah, that shou- that should be a thing. Like, you pay... How many people would you normally go to a movie with? Like, four people? Each ticket's about 20 bucks nowadays.

   7. JRJoe Rogan10:18

      Yeah.

   8. BRBrian Redban10:18

      Pay 60 bucks so you can rent it for 24 hours?

   9. JRJoe Rogan10:21

      That would be the shit.

   10. BRBrian Redban10:22

       Yeah.

   11. JVJamie Vernon10:22

       I wanted to do the opposite. I was, I was trying to look up to see how much it would cost to rent Interstellar, to have a screening at the Chinese Theatre in Hollywood.

   12. JRJoe Rogan10:31

       Mm.

   13. JVJamie Vernon10:32

       That was the coolest movie and sound I've ever seen, and I want people I know to experience that.

   14. JRJoe Rogan10:37

       Oh, right, right, right. With good sound.

   15. JVJamie Vernon10:38

       Because it was fucking so awesome.

   16. JRJoe Rogan10:40

       Mm-hmm.

   17. JVJamie Vernon10:40

       And I don't like it. It's kinda-

   18. BRBrian Redban10:41

       Did you look up how much it is?

   19. JVJamie Vernon10:42

       I couldn't... You can do screenings there. I think you'd have to figure out how much it costs to rent that, the print of the movie, and have it sent there.

   20. BRBrian Redban10:47

       Yeah, it used to be, used to be 35-millimeter prints when I was a projectionist. They, people would rent, like, "Hey, will you just rent it, Back to the Future for our company picnic?" And you would, like, as a projectionist, you would get it in the mail with all the other films, and you'll be like, "What the fuck? Why is Back to the Future here?" And I think, I don't think it's that much.

   21. JRJoe Rogan11:02

       Wow.

   22. BRBrian Redban11:02

       I think it's only a couple hundred, actually.

   23. JRJoe Rogan11:03

       Why don't we have a JRE movie night?

   24. BRBrian Redban11:05

       That would be perfect.

   25. JVJamie Vernon11:06

       Let's do it.

   26. JRJoe Rogan11:06

       We rent a movie theater.

   27. JVJamie Vernon11:07

       Hey.

   28. JRJoe Rogan11:08

       That would be the shit. Where would we go though?

   29. JVJamie Vernon11:10

       Any big theaters? I don't know.

   30. JRJoe Rogan11:11

       You know where you wanna go? You wanna go to one of them Cineopolis, Ci- Cineopolis? You know the ones?
6. 13:31 – 19:49

   Aging bodies and accident reality: Stallone’s legs, back/neck injuries, scooters, and first-aid instincts

   1. JRJoe Rogan13:31

      When, when you, uh... I know a dude who's got a severe back problem, and one of his legs is, like, shriveled up because his nerves aren't firing correctly. He went to Germany apparently, and he got a bunch of discs replaced. And it just didn't work well. And he's just got all sorts of inflammation and scar tissue, and his nerves are blocked off. Like, he, you know, he had a bunch of fucked up discs, so he went and he got a bunch of them replaced in one shot and stayed over there for a few months. And now his body's just fucking up, like, left and right. When you get r- real back problems are fucking scary as shit. I sent Dean Del Rey to, uh, Lifespan, Lifespan Medicine to deal with his neck. Dean Del Rey has got a bulging disc so bad. He's like, "Dude, I worry when people bump into me." Like, when, when people bump into him, he's in pain.

   2. BRBrian Redban14:20

      Oh, yeah, I thought he had a stroke. (laughs)

   3. JRJoe Rogan14:22

      Yeah, like, if you, if you pass, if you pass by him and accidentally f- like, bump into him a little bit, he's like, "Ah." Like he gets a stinger.

   4. JVJamie Vernon14:30

      From headbanging or...

   5. JRJoe Rogan14:31

      Um, no, from a motorcycle crash.

   6. BRBrian Redban14:34

      Yeah.

   7. JRJoe Rogan14:34

      Some messed up lady nailed him on his bike.

   8. JVJamie Vernon14:35

      Oh, like left over from a few years ago.

   9. JRJoe Rogan14:37

      Yeah, he got fucked up pretty bad, and it's not getting any better.

   10. BRBrian Redban14:40

       Yeah. And it was so weird because he's like, "I quit riding bikes," you know, for- after that, but then he got a bike, like, six months later. I'm like, "What the fuck are you doing? You, you, you almost died." And-

   11. JRJoe Rogan14:50

       Well, I think for Dean, you know, he's trying to make some... He bought a nice car, like a Porsche. He had a great deal on it, and then he flipped it. You know?

   12. JVJamie Vernon14:57

       Yeah, yeah.

   13. JRJoe Rogan14:57

       I mean, not flipped it like died, like, in a crash.

   14. BRBrian Redban15:00

       (laughs)

   15. JRJoe Rogan15:00

       Like Kevin Hart style. He, uh, just... He turned it over and made some money off of it.

   16. JVJamie Vernon15:05

       Straight out of it. Yeah.

   17. JRJoe Rogan15:06

       Yeah, yeah, yeah. And so, I think that's when he bought a bike. But yeah, I guess people who love bikes, man, they, they think it's worth the risk.

   18. BRBrian Redban15:14

       Fuck that. Out here, I can't believe that there's not more of those scooter deaths everywhere. Like-

   19. JRJoe Rogan15:19

       I know, right?

   20. BRBrian Redban15:20

       Yeah.

   21. JRJoe Rogan15:20

       Dude, those things are goddamn fast. When we were in Denver, they're everywhere, and everybody's riding those electric scooters all over the place. You know, like, is that really how you wanna go out?

   22. JVJamie Vernon15:29

       You didn't try mine yet, did you?

   23. JRJoe Rogan15:31

       No. Is it fast?

   24. JVJamie Vernon15:32

       24 miles an hour.

   25. BRBrian Redban15:33

       It's the fastest.

   26. JRJoe Rogan15:33

       Dude, yours look pretty good.

   27. JVJamie Vernon15:34

       It's way faster than those bird scoot- all those-

   28. BRBrian Redban15:36

       Do you trust that shit?

   29. JVJamie Vernon15:37

       ... way faster.

   30. BRBrian Redban15:37

       I don't trust that shit anymore.
7. 19:49 – 25:11

   “Mountain of Hell” chaos, Sober October again, and the dark art of ultra-strong weed

   1. GFGuest (unknown name, likely in-studio friend/producer)19:49

      I was gonna, when we were talking about bikes, have you seen this before? I'm gonna play this video, but-

   2. JRJoe Rogan19:52

      Fuck this, yes. What is this?

   3. GFGuest (unknown name, likely in-studio friend/producer)19:54

      It's called the, like, Mountain of Hell. There's another name for it, too, I can't remember. Like, Mountainocalypse, or something like that. They start in France, on the top of the Alps, thou- 2,000 bikers.

   4. JRJoe Rogan20:04

      Is that snow?

   5. GFGuest (unknown name, likely in-studio friend/producer)20:05

      Yeah, it's on the top of a glacier. You end up going, like, 5,000 feet downhill. It's like, it's like a mile or two down. You go through-

   6. JRJoe Rogan20:11

      And you're riding on ice?

   7. GFGuest (unknown name, likely in-studio friend/producer)20:12

      Yeah, these are the guys in front, but here in a second, when they have to turn- (sighs) ... it creates- It gets fucked. ... this fucking insane pileup of (laughs) -

   8. JRJoe Rogan20:21

      Of people?

   9. GFGuest (unknown name, likely in-studio friend/producer)20:21

      ... that, that y- you can't avoid. So you have to be in front.

   10. JRJoe Rogan20:25

       Oh my God. Oh my God.

   11. GFGuest (unknown name, likely in-studio friend/producer)20:26

       It'll happen here in a second. All right, here we go. Here goes the first one, and then it just causes a major pileup.

   12. JRJoe Rogan20:31

       Oh, God. Bing!

   13. GFGuest (unknown name, likely in-studio friend/producer)20:31

       Dude's getting fucked up.

   14. JRJoe Rogan20:32

       Bang! Boom! And then dudes are trying to dive out of the way.

   15. GFGuest (unknown name, likely in-studio friend/producer)20:36

       Yeah. And you're just going downhill. It's like on a ski slope, but everyone's on mountain bikes, for those that are listening.

   16. JRJoe Rogan20:41

       Oh! Now, oh!

   17. GFGuest (unknown name, likely in-studio friend/producer)20:43

       (laughs) Look at ...

   18. JRJoe Rogan20:44

       It's like ants.

   19. GFGuest (unknown name, likely in-studio friend/producer)20:44

       Yeah. (laughs)

   20. JRJoe Rogan20:46

       And then dudes are braking early to try to avoid it, and they just wipe it out at the top. Oh my God, this is a ... What a stupid thing to do. When you know that that many people are gonna crash ... Look at this guy on the outside, trying to go ... fell on his own.

   21. GFGuest (unknown name, likely in-studio friend/producer)20:58

       Some guys haven't even made it down there yet. They're still at the top.

   22. JRJoe Rogan21:00

       Yeah, and they're gonna try to figure out a path. But you can't really hit the brakes, right?

   23. GFGuest (unknown name, likely in-studio friend/producer)21:05

       Uh, you're on ice.

   24. JRJoe Rogan21:05

       Yeah.

   25. GFGuest (unknown name, likely in-studio friend/producer)21:05

       You're going downhill on ice, so I don't know-

   26. JRJoe Rogan21:07

       Yeah.

   27. GFGuest (unknown name, likely in-studio friend/producer)21:07

       ... how that works. Bitch.

   28. JRJoe Rogan21:09

       This is so dumb. Look at that. Boom! Boom!

   29. GFGuest (unknown name, likely in-studio friend/producer)21:11

       But if you make it out of there, you're safe, and you get to win.

   30. JRJoe Rogan21:14

       What does that ... What do you win?
8. 25:11 – 43:01

   Alcohol responsibility debates: bartender liability, drunk driving uncertainty, consent, and autonomy tech

   1. JRJoe Rogan25:11

      Yeah. But the thing is, like, w- it's weird. It's like we have this line of personal responsibility. Right? You could go to any bar, and they don't check to see if you've already been drinking. They don't know what your tolerance is. They don't know anything. You could go to any bar, "Give me, uh, two shots of Jack Daniels and a Grey Goose on the rocks." They just give it to you. Bang. Nobody cares. They just think you could figure it out. You know? And how much of a responsibility does a bartender actually have?

   2. GFGuest (unknown name, likely in-studio friend/producer)25:38

      A lot.

   3. JRJoe Rogan25:39

      Do they?

   4. GFGuest (unknown name, likely in-studio friend/producer)25:39

      Yeah. They can go, they can go to jail too.

   5. JRJoe Rogan25:41

      The bartender can?

   6. GFGuest (unknown name, likely in-studio friend/producer)25:42

      Mm-hmm. If they don't stop you. Depending on the state, I think, yeah.

   7. JRJoe Rogan25:44

      (sighs) That, to me, is so ridiculous. I don't think the bar... I think ... (sighs)

   8. GFGuest (unknown name, likely in-studio friend/producer)25:48

      Over-served? Like if you get over-served and they can prove it, you're just as responsible if he c- he, he, like, drives home drunk and kills somebody.

   9. JRJoe Rogan25:55

      Do you... Well, if you know someone's gonna drive... The, the problem is... Like I was talking about this on stage once, that j- the p- real problem with drunk driving is not that people can't drive when they're drunk. The problem when you're drinking is you don't know if you can drive or not. You don't know how drunk you are, 'cause you're drunk. Like, you might have three drinks and you might fail a drunk driving breathalyzer, but you may, might be able to drive perfectly. You know? But if you have four drinks, or five drinks, you might think it's okay to have six or seven. Like, you don't know where you are. You don't know, like, where you are on the spectrum of drunk or not drunk when you're really drunk. That's part of being drunk. You don't know what the fuck's going on. That's why, like, um, that's why the consent issue when you're really drunk is, is weird. You know? It's 'cause it's like some people like to get drunk and have sex, and then some people say, "Well, you should never have sex with someone when they're drunk because they can't consent because they're drunk." Okay, but then that's like 90% of all people having sex.

   10. GFGuest (unknown name, likely in-studio friend/producer)26:57

       Yeah.

   11. JRJoe Rogan26:58

       Like how, how many people have sex while they're drunk?

   12. GFGuest (unknown name, likely in-studio friend/producer)27:00

       I, I only have sex when I'm drunk. (laughs) That's true. Don't I have to be drunk. I don't know. Why? (laughs) I'm dealing with a bunch of stuff.

   13. JRJoe Rogan27:08

       (laughs)

   14. GFGuest (unknown name, likely in-studio friend/producer)27:10

       (laughs)

   15. JRJoe Rogan27:10

       Dealing with a bunch of stuff. Yeah. Well, I think, uh, autonomous cars. It's gonna... That's gonna be very interesting wh- how they deal with alcohol in autonomous cars because if, like, you have a drunk mode, like if autonomous cars... Like say if you have a Tesla in 2026, right? And it has the option to be completely autonomous, drives on its own, or you can go manual. So it detects that you're drunk. It says, "Mr. Redban, you are intoxicated. We would like to drive." And then you have to let it take you. Like, would you get... Do you think there's gonna be a coming point in time where drunk driving doesn't apply because your car is gonna drive you home?

   16. GFGuest (unknown name, likely in-studio friend/producer)27:54

       It makes the final decision for you.

   17. JRJoe Rogan27:57

       Yeah.

   18. GFGuest (unknown name, likely in-studio friend/producer)27:57

       I'm all for it.

   19. JRJoe Rogan27:58

       Like, uh, just a, wouldn't be hard to have a breathalyzer on a car.

   20. GFGuest (unknown name, likely in-studio friend/producer)28:01

       I think they do that now. (laughs) Yeah.

   21. JRJoe Rogan28:02

       Yeah. I have a friend who he, he got arrested for, uh, a DUI, like more than one, and, uh, he had to blow into his thing on his van, his work van. He had to blow into his little thing before it would let him start the car.

   22. GFGuest (unknown name, likely in-studio friend/producer)28:15

       Yeah. This is another Demolition Man coming full circle again, 'cause there's that scene where he gets in and he makes the car... He's like, "Give me, give me control." And she's like, "What the fuck are you doing? You're gonna drive?"

   23. JRJoe Rogan28:26

       Oh.

   24. GFGuest (unknown name, likely in-studio friend/producer)28:26

       And he's like, "Yeah, manual control. Give me that shit." And he chases after her.

   25. JRJoe Rogan28:29

       What year was Demolition Man supposed to be in?

   26. GFGuest (unknown name, likely in-studio friend/producer)28:31

       Like now, I think. I'll double-check because like it came out like- This is the Wizards of Love. I might need to watch that again.

   27. JRJoe Rogan28:36

       It's Wizards of Love with Wesley Snipes.

   28. GFGuest (unknown name, likely in-studio friend/producer)28:39

       They're doing that THC, uh-

   29. JRJoe Rogan28:40

       Ugh.

   30. GFGuest (unknown name, likely in-studio friend/producer)28:40

       ... breathalyzer next year.
9. 43:01 – 51:15

   China, censorship, and corporate hypocrisy: South Park vs. the NBA, plus Huawei paranoia

   1. JVJamie Vernon43:01

      Yeah, I caught up on Mexican Joker last night.

   2. JRJoe Rogan43:03

      It's great, right? (laughs)

   3. JVJamie Vernon43:04

      Yeah, yeah, I'm like, I was trying to catch up because I saw they're, they have a new one tonight.

   4. JRJoe Rogan43:07

      Oh, yeah.

   5. JVJamie Vernon43:07

      But they got controversy with China for it.

   6. BRBrian Redban43:09

      Those are, those are the guys that still to this day I look forward to watching every week.

   7. JRJoe Rogan43:15

      They go hard in the paint.

   8. BRBrian Redban43:16

      Do you see the response that Trey did, uh, to China?

   9. JRJoe Rogan43:19

      No.

   10. BRBrian Redban43:20

       (laughs) J- Jamie, did you see it? Uh, so yeah, J- Trey did an official response to China of them, uh, and that, that's what, yeah, after they got all-

   11. JRJoe Rogan43:29

       Well, explain to everybody what happened.

   12. BRBrian Redban43:31

       So they had, uh, South Park had an episode, uh, that kind of mimic or made fun of the NBA's response, or the president of the NBA's response to, uh, China that was in the news recently. And, uh, it's about how Hollywood edits their films. Like Iron Man 3 has a whole s- 12-minute scene that they added just for the Chinese release, uh, bec- they, like, make things to make China happy so they can make more money because there's so many millions of people in China.

   13. JRJoe Rogan44:00

       What did they add?

   14. BRBrian Redban44:01

       Uh, it w- you know, I, it was a scene, uh, of an Asian doctor in, like, I think they were taking out the thing in his chest and saving, uh, his life or something like that. They put-

   15. JRJoe Rogan44:13

       So they added a Chinese doctor to it?

   16. BRBrian Redban44:13

       They added, they add, they, yeah, they added Asians to it.

   17. JRJoe Rogan44:16

       Whoa.

   18. BRBrian Redban44:16

       And I think they cut- Really? But l- this happens a lot in Hollywood, I guess. They, they, they, they edit for, like, a Chinese version, where they even add stuff to it and make it more Chinese happy. And so that-

   19. JRJoe Rogan44:27

       Oh!

   20. BRBrian Redban44:27

       So they, so Trey Parker and Matt Stone made this whole episode about that, and of course, you know, they got banned from China. China scrubbed the whole internet free of everything.

   21. JRJoe Rogan44:35

       "Official apology to China from Trey Parker and Matt Stone. Like the NBA, we welcome the Chinese censors into our homes and into our hearts." (laughs)

   22. BRBrian Redban44:42

       (laughs)

   23. JRJoe Rogan44:42

       "We too love money more than freedom and democracy." What, how do you say Xi?

   24. JVJamie Vernon44:46

       Xi, I think.

   25. JRJoe Rogan44:47

       Xi. "Doesn't look just like Winnie the Pooh at all. Tune into our 300th episode this Wednesday at 10:00. Long live the great Communist Party of China. May this autumn's sorghum harvest be bountiful. We good now, China?"

   26. BRBrian Redban45:03

       (laughs)

   27. JRJoe Rogan45:03

       Oh my God, he's the best.

   28. JVJamie Vernon45:05

       (laughs)

   29. JRJoe Rogan45:06

       He's the best.

   30. BRBrian Redban45:06

       They are the best.
10. 51:15 – 54:20

    Phone wars and weird new form factors: iPhone vs Note, keyboards, and the ‘remote control’ Essential leak

    1. BRBrian Redban51:15

       Did you see this? This is the new Essential Phone that got leaked yesterday?

    2. JRJoe Rogan51:18

       What is that?

    3. BRBrian Redban51:18

       Now, I like this. I think I've talked about this before, how I wouldn't mind a thinner, skinner, longer phone. Skinner? This has just leaked, so they don't, we don't know. Slep- slept walked.

    4. JRJoe Rogan51:27

       (laughs)

    5. BRBrian Redban51:28

       (laughs)

    6. JRJoe Rogan51:29

       What is that? Looks like a remote control.

    7. BRBrian Redban51:31

       Yeah, it's a-

    8. JRJoe Rogan51:31

       That's the phone?

    9. BRBrian Redban51:32

       It's, it's a Essential Phone 2, um-

    10. JRJoe Rogan51:34

        Show... Can you show the video of it? 'Cause there's a video of it, uh, that's really cool, when he's, like, scrolling through the...

    11. BRBrian Redban51:40

        Maybe that?

    12. JRJoe Rogan51:41

        He's dur-

    13. BRBrian Redban51:42

        Hmm.

    14. JRJoe Rogan51:42

        ... scrolling through the operating system in one of the videos.

    15. BRBrian Redban51:44

        Yeah, it's a new Android operating system they have put on the phone. I don't know if it's gonna have, like, things removed from it, 'cause I-

    16. JRJoe Rogan51:50

        So, is it their own thing?

    17. BRBrian Redban51:52

        I think. It's, uh, proprietary for them.

    18. JRJoe Rogan51:55

        Huh.

    19. BRBrian Redban51:55

        Is that a camera on the back?

    20. JRJoe Rogan51:57

        Yeah, the back is a camera.

    21. BRBrian Redban51:57

        That's a huge fucking camera. That's gonna be like one of the best cameras ever if...

    22. JRJoe Rogan52:01

        Well, it's a really small phone. So, like, if that iPhone camera was on something so thin, that would look huge too. And that's a, it's a very thin thing. It's, like, not even, it's, it seems like it's almost half the size, width-wise, of your iPhone.

    23. BRBrian Redban52:16

        Mm.

    24. JRJoe Rogan52:16

        But why, why would you want that? I don't get that.

    25. BRBrian Redban52:18

        Different. Just everyone's, I mean- I tell you what- ... options are good. ... hand cramping.

    26. JRJoe Rogan52:22

        Hand cramping?

    27. BRBrian Redban52:23

        Yeah, like, how, how wide the phone is. Like, I'm constantly, like, trying to- That's why I like this. ... lean over... That's so weird.

    28. JRJoe Rogan52:28

        Like a iF- or an Apple TV remote size, it looks like.

    29. BRBrian Redban52:31

        Yeah. It's exactly what it looks like.

    30. JRJoe Rogan52:33

        I like that.
11. 54:20 – 58:53

    Wearables as comedy tools: Apple Watch stage recording and Rogan’s Whoop obsession

    1. BRBrian Redban54:20

       My new favorite thing, Joe, is Apple Watch now allows you to record voice memos on your watch.

    2. JRJoe Rogan54:26

       Ooh.

    3. BRBrian Redban54:26

       So when you're, uh, doing standup-

    4. JRJoe Rogan54:28

       On stage?

    5. BRBrian Redban54:28

       ... it's right there, so it's a perfect-

    6. JRJoe Rogan54:30

       Ah.

    7. BRBrian Redban54:30

       ... recording 'cause it's right next to your mouth.

    8. JVJamie Vernon54:33

       ... uh, one thing though is to turn your phone on, uh, airplane mode before you do it, if you... because then it sometimes switches to the phone mic.

    9. JRJoe Rogan54:41

       Oh.

    10. JVJamie Vernon54:42

        But what... so what I do is I put them both on airplane mode, so then I have audience and then voice right next to it. So, if I wanted to mix it, I would have al- almost a perfect sounding stage recording.

    11. JRJoe Rogan54:53

        So, it's two separate recordings-

    12. JVJamie Vernon54:55

        Yeah.

    13. JRJoe Rogan54:55

        ... of the same show?

    14. JVJamie Vernon54:56

        Yeah. So if-

    15. JRJoe Rogan54:56

        Wow.

    16. JVJamie Vernon54:56

        ... if you keep your phone on your... on the stool, you're recording the audience, and then you have your voice right next to it.

    17. JRJoe Rogan55:01

        Do you have to sync them up?

    18. JVJamie Vernon55:02

        Yeah, you just... whatever, garage-

    19. JRJoe Rogan55:03

        With-

    20. JVJamie Vernon55:04

        ... band or whatever.

    21. JRJoe Rogan55:04

        Okay. Wow, that actually sounds badass.

    22. JVJamie Vernon55:08

        Yeah.

    23. JRJoe Rogan55:08

        That actually makes sense, like a real reason to have an iPhone watch.

    24. JVJamie Vernon55:12

        Yeah. I like it. Also, you can monitor your sleep now. You wear it... uh, or I guess it's coming soon, but, uh, you can wear it and it tells you how many times you wake up, and it tells your heart rates and stuff like that.

    25. JRJoe Rogan55:20

        I already have that with this thing. I have this Whoop strap. This thing is-

    26. JVJamie Vernon55:23

        Oh, that's cool.

    27. JRJoe Rogan55:23

        ... amazing. This, this thing, it doesn't just measure that. It measures heart rate variability. It measures, uh, all the disturbances, how, how much REM sleep you had, how deep your sleep was. It also mea- measures... because of heart rate variability, it measures how much you've recovered from your workout, it measures how many calories you burned. I mean, the, the application that comes with it, this Whoop application, is fucking incredible. It's got... I mean, it takes a long time to learn all this shit, but there's so much data that you get off of these things, and it gives you, like, these little things to fill out, little questionnaires that let you know, like... here, my recovery today is only 16%, but I, I just got done running though.

    28. JVJamie Vernon56:01

        Oh, so it's not a watch at all.

    29. JRJoe Rogan56:02

        Mm-mm.

    30. JVJamie Vernon56:02

        It's just a strap?
12. 58:53 – 1:10:02

    Surveillance creep and the internet’s bargain: mesh networks, facial recognition limits, and phone addiction

    1. JVJamie Vernon58:53

       There's this... uh, I... there was an article that went around-

    2. JRJoe Rogan58:55

       No, he's right, though.

    3. JVJamie Vernon58:56

       ... recently about, uh, this stuff called, like, a mesh network that's g- created with some of these, uh, like-

    4. JRJoe Rogan59:01

       Yep.

    5. JVJamie Vernon59:01

       ... cameras on people's doors. There was, like, a test that happened in the LA basin. 700 cameras gave them access to almost the entire LA area.

    6. JRJoe Rogan59:09

       Whoa.

    7. JVJamie Vernon59:10

       Because the way that they link to each other.

    8. JRJoe Rogan59:12

       Wow.

    9. JVJamie Vernon59:12

       And there's, like, some, like, watchdog people are saying that, like, even if you're smart enough to, like, not do this, the person next to you might not be, or your neighbor might not be. They might have it on, and just because your proximity is close enough, your iPhone knows that your iPhone's next to it.

    10. JRJoe Rogan59:26

        Mm.

    11. JVJamie Vernon59:26

        And it just goes, "Oh, yeah, you were here. Joe was there." You know?

    12. JRJoe Rogan59:29

        Yeah, you can't-

    13. JVJamie Vernon59:30

        That kind of stuff.

    14. JRJoe Rogan59:30

        It's gonna be really hard-

    15. JVJamie Vernon59:31

        Yeah.

    16. JRJoe Rogan59:31

        ... to pull shit off in the future.

    17. JVJamie Vernon59:33

        Yeah.

    18. JRJoe Rogan59:33

        And it seems like with all these Nest phones and Ring phones and... or, you know, not Ring phones. R- Ring Cameras and Net Cameras.

    19. JVJamie Vernon59:39

        Yeah.

    20. JRJoe Rogan59:39

        Nest Cameras that people have on their front doors. After a while, it's everywhere you go, you're gonna be filmed.

    21. JVJamie Vernon59:45

        They passed a law, I think today, that the California, like, body cameras that cops use can't be used for facial recognition.

    22. JRJoe Rogan59:53

        Yeah.

    23. JVJamie Vernon59:53

        Like, the ACLU got a law passed through that said, like, that won't be able to happen or something like that.

    24. JRJoe Rogan59:58

        Hm.

    25. JVJamie Vernon59:58

        Too bad. We would've caught a lot more people.

    26. JRJoe Rogan1:00:01

        That seems-

    27. JVJamie Vernon1:00:02

        (laughs)

    28. JRJoe Rogan1:00:02

        That seems weird because that seems like when you would wanna use it.

    29. JVJamie Vernon1:00:06

        Mm-hmm.

    30. JRJoe Rogan1:00:06

        Is when you're a cop looking for bad guys. It's like-

Episode duration: 2:08:04