Joe Rogan Experience #1367 - Bridget Phetasy

1. 0:00 – 15:00

   (laughs) …

   1. BPBridget Phetasy0:00

      (laughs)

   2. JRJoe Rogan0:00

      Doo, doo, doo. (door closes) Hello, Bridget.

   3. BPBridget Phetasy0:04

      Hello, Joe.

   4. JRJoe Rogan0:05

      What's happening?

   5. BPBridget Phetasy0:06

      Nothing. I'm so excited.

   6. JRJoe Rogan0:07

      We're here. We made it happen.

   7. BPBridget Phetasy0:08

      We did!

   8. JRJoe Rogan0:09

      We made it real. And, uh-

   9. BPBridget Phetasy0:09

      Happy Sober October.

   10. JRJoe Rogan0:11

       This is the first podcast ever where Marshall is in the room.

   11. BPBridget Phetasy0:13

       Oh, my gosh, I feel so honored.

   12. JRJoe Rogan0:15

       He's... We are honored. This is a special one. He's just exhausted, and I knew he wanted to just lie down next to me.

   13. Stay here.

   14. BPBridget Phetasy0:21

       My dog always comes through the YouTube show, and we're always like, "Oh, she's gonna knock over the lights in the middle." But you see her come in and out in the edits. (laughs)

   15. JRJoe Rogan0:28

       Well, when, uh, Red Band and I used to do the podcast back in the day, we used to do it in my office in my house when my kids were really little. So I'd hear, like, screaming-

   16. BPBridget Phetasy0:35

       (laughs)

   17. JRJoe Rogan0:35

       ... and crying in the background, you know? "She took my toy!"

   18. BPBridget Phetasy0:38

       (laughs)

   19. JRJoe Rogan0:39

       Something like that, you know?

   20. BPBridget Phetasy0:40

       (coughs)

   21. JRJoe Rogan0:40

       So, um, thanks for doing this.

   22. BPBridget Phetasy0:43

       Thank you. How's the, how's Sober October going?

   23. JRJoe Rogan0:45

       It's great. It's-

   24. BPBridget Phetasy0:46

       I wanna thank you for doing that.

   25. JRJoe Rogan0:47

       Why's that?

   26. BPBridget Phetasy0:48

       Because it creates a community, and it's super cool for people to just have that month of clarity. I just think it's really cool. I'm grateful. It's my sober birthday in October, so I-

   27. JRJoe Rogan0:59

       For you, it's, like, how many years?

   28. BPBridget Phetasy1:01

       Six years.

   29. JRJoe Rogan1:01

       That's a lot.

   30. BPBridget Phetasy1:02

       No, that's i- that's insane. It's-
2. 15:00 – 30:00

   Buddy, come here. Come…

   1. BPBridget Phetasy15:00

      restless.

   2. JRJoe Rogan15:01

      Buddy, come here. Come here, pal. Come here.

   3. BPBridget Phetasy15:05

      He's so cute though, I can't bear to kick him out.

   4. JRJoe Rogan15:07

      Wanna say hi to people? Come here. Come on, come on, come on, come on.

   5. BPBridget Phetasy15:10

      (laughs)

   6. JRJoe Rogan15:11

      Come on. Say hi to people. Aw.

   7. BPBridget Phetasy15:12

      Hi.

   8. JRJoe Rogan15:13

      That, ladies and gentlemen, is the sweetest dog in the world.

   9. BPBridget Phetasy15:15

      Seriously.

   10. JRJoe Rogan15:16

       People have been asking for him to be on the show forever. He's just gonna... He'll do the rounds. He'll go to you, "Hi, what are you doing in here?" He'll go to you, he'll get pet-

   11. BPBridget Phetasy15:23

       I'm fine.

   12. JRJoe Rogan15:23

       ... and then he'll go to Jamie, he'll get pet. But the... I just don't want him to interrupt the conversation.

   13. BPBridget Phetasy15:28

       No.

   14. JRJoe Rogan15:28

       He's a little bit of a distraction.

   15. BPBridget Phetasy15:29

       That's fine, I'm all over the place.

   16. JRJoe Rogan15:31

       And I don't want him to yank any wires out either. Hey, he's going to Jamie now, told you.

   17. BPBridget Phetasy15:34

       Doing the rounds.

   18. JRJoe Rogan15:36

       (laughs) That's what he does. He-

   19. BPBridget Phetasy15:38

       They're such, like, love sluts.

   20. JRJoe Rogan15:40

       Yeah.

   21. BPBridget Phetasy15:40

       It's amazing.

   22. JRJoe Rogan15:41

       Goldens are love sponges.

   23. BPBridget Phetasy15:42

       So is my boxer. She'll go asleep from one bed to another to another. She gets all the love.

   24. JRJoe Rogan15:48

       Well, he doesn't... He's not allowed to sleep in beds.

   25. BPBridget Phetasy15:50

       Yeah, smart. (laughs)

   26. JRJoe Rogan15:52

       But, uh, but he's, uh, he's very loved.

   27. BPBridget Phetasy15:54

       Um-

   28. JRJoe Rogan15:54

       It's just that I've never had a dog like that before. They're just so different than any other dog I've ever had, 'cause he's just, he's just a constant friendly lover.

   29. BPBridget Phetasy16:02

       Mm-hmm.

   30. JRJoe Rogan16:02

       You know, he never gets annoyed with you, he never wants to go lie down but he's always happy when you say hi to him.
3. 30:00 – 45:00

   Yeah.…

   1. JRJoe Rogan30:00

      a cy... People get caught in cycles of- of- of, like, m- creating bullshit, and- and then they get in cycles of, like, festering. And you know Jamie Kilstein?

   2. BPBridget Phetasy30:11

      Yeah.

   3. JRJoe Rogan30:12

      ... one of the things J-, you know, Jamie is a reformed super social-

   4. BPBridget Phetasy30:15

      Yeah, yeah, yeah.

   5. JRJoe Rogan30:15

      ... justice warrior.

   6. BPBridget Phetasy30:16

      Yeah.

   7. JRJoe Rogan30:16

      But one of the things that Jamie told me was that, like, he would, like, say something about someone, like, "This guy's a Nazi and a piece of shit."

   8. BPBridget Phetasy30:23

      (laughs) Yeah.

   9. JRJoe Rogan30:24

      And he would say it on Twitter, and then he would be glued to his phone, looking at every response, you know-

   10. BPBridget Phetasy30:29

       Yeah.

   11. JRJoe Rogan30:29

       ... every response that came in on Twitter. And he'd be reacting to it or freaking out or angry or-

   12. BPBridget Phetasy30:33

       There's a lot of people like this. (laughs)

   13. JRJoe Rogan30:34

       ... or getting love from it or getting, getting anxiety from i- And then people would turn on him, he'd be like, "No!"

   14. BPBridget Phetasy30:39

       Yeah.

   15. JRJoe Rogan30:39

       And then he would fucking "Fuck you!" and go back at him. And it was just like this thing where you're trapped in it. You're trapped in it all day.

   16. BPBridget Phetasy30:46

       Yeah, yeah. Faisal and I were talking about this, uh, that kid from Iraq who was on my podcast. And he was... I was like, "It's so weird in, you know, they, in all those, like, dystopian books, there was, like, this wreckage everywhere and then you plug in to get to a better place." And I feel like when I unplug, it's like a Disney movie.

   17. JRJoe Rogan31:04

       (laughs) Yeah.

   18. BPBridget Phetasy31:04

       You know? (laughs) Like-

   19. JRJoe Rogan31:05

       Yes.

   20. BPBridget Phetasy31:05

       I'm like doo, doo, doo, doo, doo, doo.

   21. JRJoe Rogan31:06

       I don't-

   22. BPBridget Phetasy31:06

       And then I plug in and it's like chaos and war.

   23. JRJoe Rogan31:09

       I don't want a flip phone. I don't want a flip phone, but I get it.

   24. BPBridget Phetasy31:11

       I want one.

   25. JRJoe Rogan31:12

       But I get it.

   26. BPBridget Phetasy31:12

       I, I know. I know, I know.

   27. JRJoe Rogan31:14

       I like taking pictures of things and I like having the option, but I've done much better over the last six months of being way more disciplined with my time.

   28. BPBridget Phetasy31:22

       Yeah, yeah.

   29. JRJoe Rogan31:23

       You know? Like, sometimes I'll have... I, I go, "Oh, I'll check my phone," and then I go, "Don't! Don't do it." So I'm, like, giving myself advice.

   30. BPBridget Phetasy31:29

       That's-
4. 45:00 – 1:00:00

   Of course, yeah. …

   1. BPBridget Phetasy45:00

      one of the kind of byproducts is that not only do you not trust people, but you don't trust yourself.

   2. JRJoe Rogan45:05

      Of course, yeah.

   3. BPBridget Phetasy45:06

      And I was like, "Oh, I didn't know this."

   4. JRJoe Rogan45:08

      'Cause you put yourself, you put yourself in a bad situation, right? So you don't trust your own judgment.

   5. BPBridget Phetasy45:11

      And often, like, your reaction to it.

   6. JRJoe Rogan45:13

      Mm-hmm.

   7. BPBridget Phetasy45:13

      So, my reaction to what happened to me was very... I mean, yes, I was young and I can forgive myself for that, but it was to, I was, like, hypersexual after that, you know? I- I, and then I- I recently (laughs) last week had this moment where I was like, "Oh, God. All the, like, men that just didn't deserve me." And this is one of the-

   8. JRJoe Rogan45:35

      (laughs)

   9. BPBridget Phetasy45:35

      I mean, (laughs) I- it really was, like, I felt like I was re-virginized or something. I don't know what happened, but I suddenly was, like, "Wow, I- I- I don't..." I suddenly have self-worth. (laughs) It's like-

   10. JRJoe Rogan45:49

       It redefines intimacy for you too, right?

   11. BPBridget Phetasy45:51

       Well, this is one of the, you know, where I'm squishy. I'm squishy on a lot of things and, um, I think feminism is really important and to, like, shit on it is... There are women who died and got jailed for, like, the right to vote, so that doesn't sit well with me. But the- some of the excesses of feminism and of the, in particular, um, like, sexual liberation, is that I was told sex is empowering and it's not fucking empowering if you're not empowered already. Like, f- in my experience-

   12. JRJoe Rogan46:27

       You were told sex is empowering as a part of feminism, you said?

   13. BPBridget Phetasy46:29

       It's kind of, well-

   14. JRJoe Rogan46:30

       Is that what you're saying?

   15. BPBridget Phetasy46:30

       It's kind of the messaging, is like, "Oh, women can have sex too and just, like, it's a, like, it's an empowering thing."

   16. JRJoe Rogan46:37

       Well, is- isn't it more of an anti-shame thing? Because, like-

   17. BPBridget Phetasy46:39

       Well, there's-

   18. JRJoe Rogan46:40

       ... women are shamed for their- their seduc- their- their feelings, their passion.

   19. BPBridget Phetasy46:42

       Yeah, and I think that's why I think the... I understand it. I understand why that would be the... But I feel like what got lost is that sex is very intimate and for years I was like, "Intimacy is so creepy." I just couldn't-

   20. JRJoe Rogan46:55

       (laughs)

   21. BPBridget Phetasy46:55

       I couldn't (laughs) , I couldn't make e- like, eye contact? No.

   22. JRJoe Rogan46:59

       Right.

   23. BPBridget Phetasy46:59

       No. We're not doing that.

   24. JRJoe Rogan47:01

       (laughs)

   25. BPBridget Phetasy47:01

       That's not happening. And it's, I- I just-

   26. JRJoe Rogan47:06

       You gotta be like... (whistles)

   27. BPBridget Phetasy47:06

       Yeah. Like, get- get in the back. Um, we-

   28. JRJoe Rogan47:11

       Get in the back. (laughs)

   29. BPBridget Phetasy47:12

       (laughs) We- I just didn't have that, um, I- I don't know. I just, I- I missed the memo that it should be something... I- I was taught that it was, um, you know, like, to kind of withhold because then a man won't respect you, which feels a little bit transactional. So there was that messaging.

   30. JRJoe Rogan47:33

       Mm-hmm.
5. 1:00:00 – 1:08:56

   (laughs) …

   1. BPBridget Phetasy1:00:00

   2. JRJoe Rogan1:00:00

      (laughs)

   3. BPBridget Phetasy1:00:00

      ... you guys sound exactly the same.

   4. JRJoe Rogan1:00:02

      Yes.

   5. BPBridget Phetasy1:00:02

      You re- you should date.

   6. JRJoe Rogan1:00:03

      (laughs)

   7. BPBridget Phetasy1:00:03

      I figured out how to solve the problem.

   8. JRJoe Rogan1:00:07

      Well, I always think it's hilarious when a right-wing person and a, and a Democrat date.

   9. BPBridget Phetasy1:00:11

      Oh. (laughs)

   10. JRJoe Rogan1:00:12

       Th- this-

   11. BPBridget Phetasy1:00:12

       How do you make that work?

   12. JRJoe Rogan1:00:13

       I just, uh-

   13. BPBridget Phetasy1:00:14

       Maybe it's just, like, hate fucking.

   14. JRJoe Rogan1:00:15

       Yeah, hate fucking.

   15. BPBridget Phetasy1:00:17

       (laughs) You know? Like, you know, you-

   16. JRJoe Rogan1:00:17

       "Fuck Nancy Pelosi." No, fuck me. (laughs)

   17. BPBridget Phetasy1:00:23

       (laughs)

   18. JRJoe Rogan1:00:25

       I'm sure, I'm sure. I mean, look, people are goddamn complicated.

   19. BPBridget Phetasy1:00:28

       We are.

   20. JRJoe Rogan1:00:28

       Yeah.

   21. BPBridget Phetasy1:00:28

       We're very complicated. It's, uh-

   22. JRJoe Rogan1:00:30

       Mm-hmm.

   23. BPBridget Phetasy1:00:30

       ... that's what was so weird about working at Playboy, was I got there right when they went non-nude.

   24. JRJoe Rogan1:00:36

       Mm.

   25. BPBridget Phetasy1:00:36

       And I was like-

   26. JRJoe Rogan1:00:37

       Oh, that's hilar- how long-

   27. BPBridget Phetasy1:00:38

       Sorry, everyone. (laughs)

   28. JRJoe Rogan1:00:39

       How long did that last? (laughs)

   29. BPBridget Phetasy1:00:39

       Like, one minute.

   30. JRJoe Rogan1:00:40

       (laughs)

Episode duration: 2:28:51