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Joe Rogan Experience #1378 - Greg Fitzsimmons

Greg Fitzsimmons is a writer and stand-up comedian. He also hosts a podcast with Alison Rosen called “Childish” that is available now on iTunes & Stitcher.

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Nov 6, 20192h 37mWatch on YouTube ↗

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  1. 0:002:29

    Sober October aftermath: cigars, relapse fears, and why Greg quit drinking

    1. JR

      Three, two, one. Gregory!

    2. GF

      Joseph!

    3. JR

      Sober October's over, but, uh, we could-- we were allowed to smoke cigars during Sober October for whatever reason. But they do get you high.

    4. GF

      They do give you a nice little buzz.

    5. JR

      They do.

    6. GF

      Yeah.

    7. JR

      It's- it's weird that that's, like, thought of as being a sobriety thing. Like that, you ain't sober.

    8. GF

      Is it really?

    9. JR

      I mean, if you're smoking. People smoke cigarettes when they're sober.

    10. GF

      Yeah.

    11. JR

      All those, um, fucking AA guys, remember, right? Those guys were always-- these guys were always-

    12. GF

      Those guys will tell you-

    13. JR

      ... smoking.

    14. GF

      ... you can't have a non-alcoholic beer, which I do. I have a non-alco- I even had a drink. It'll be 30 years next month that I haven't had a drink.

    15. JR

      Didn't you have like one or two when Meany died?

    16. GF

      When Meany died, I had some scotch.

    17. JR

      That's a weird one, right?

    18. GF

      I had like, I didn't get drunk, but I had like a few shots.

    19. JR

      Did you, like, feel weird about that? I mean, all those years.

    20. GF

      I think I felt so weird about him being dead that the whole thing felt surreal anyway. And, um, I haven't really, haven't had the desire- I can't say I had, can't have the desire. It's more of just, like, you- you- you feel like there's times where you wanna just do what everybody else is doing and just chill out. And you see everybody getting more mellow and relaxed and social.

    21. JR

      Right.

    22. GF

      And, uh, especially if I'm in a situation where , you know, it's a bunch of people I don't know that well, maybe it's your kids' friends' parent kinda situation.

    23. JR

      Mm-hmm. Nice glass of wine to take the edge off.

    24. GF

      (sighs) Dude.

    25. JR

      Dude. But you did the- the couple glasses of scotch and then you didn't go right back to it.

    26. GF

      Right.

    27. JR

      Like you became a 21-year-old drunk Greg again.

    28. GF

      Right. Well, a lot of it has to do with my father. And he was an alcoholic and I saw, I saw his depression. I have the same depression as he does and I felt, I felt like when I drank, it wasn't always for fun. It was a lot of times it was like dealing with feelings and bullshit like that.

    29. JR

      Oh.

    30. GF

      And so, I saw him as an unhappy guy who was unfulfilled in a lot of ways, and I saw the alcohol was a big part of why his life wasn't what it, what it could've been.

  2. 2:295:02

    Comedy performance rituals and the urge to change consciousness

    1. JR

      No, why fuck with it? I tell you what, man. I just got done with a whole month of being sober, and then I had my first drinks this weekend. I felt like shit.

    2. GF

      No kidding.

    3. JR

      Felt like shit.

    4. GF

      Really?

    5. JR

      Yeah, I had a couple of glasses of wine, went to play pool and, uh, I was having a hard time focusing on the ball. I was, like, looking at the ball, I was like, "Ball? Three glasses of wine?"

    6. GF

      Yeah.

    7. JR

      "That's all it takes? Three glasses of wine, I'm having a hard time seeing."

    8. GF

      Right.

    9. JR

      It took like, 'cause everything's like, oh, just a little off.

    10. GF

      Mm-hmm.

    11. JR

      It took, like, uh, an hour for my liver processed it enough where I could play pool well again.

    12. GF

      Do you think you just lost your, um, your, uh-

    13. JR

      Tolerance?

    14. GF

      ... tolerance?

    15. JR

      Yeah, for sure. Yeah. I mean, I never, I've never been a big drinker anyway. But it was interesting doing sets. That's what's always interesting. 'Cause I like a shot before I go on stage. I always like to do a shot of Jack-

    16. GF

      Yeah.

    17. JR

      ... before I go on stage, just whoa.

    18. GF

      That's the standard for you?

    19. JR

      Just a little bit of whiskey. Yeah, a little bit of whiskey-

    20. GF

      Wow.

    21. JR

      ... before a big show, just one shot.

    22. GF

      Yeah.

    23. JR

      Bang!

    24. GF

      Yeah. Brian Regan, one shot of- of, uh, frozen peppermint schnapps-

    25. JR

      Yeah.

    26. GF

      ... before he goes out.

    27. JR

      Yeah, because-

    28. GF

      Or a peach schnapps.

    29. JR

      It gives you, like, this fucking yeah!

    30. GF

      Yeah.

  3. 5:028:35

    Weed as a creative accelerant: Joe’s writing process and idea mining

    1. JR

      That's a good way of looking at it. The one- one thing that I found that affects my writing, marijuana's like steroids for writing. Oh my goodness.

    2. GF

      Really? For you.

    3. JR

      Oh my- oh my goodness.

    4. GF

      Yeah.

    5. JR

      Yeah! Just dude, this weekend, soon as I started getting high again, I'm- I've fucking, my notebook's full.

    6. GF

      No shit!

    7. JR

      All these crazy ideas. Yeah, man. Half of them are dog shit for sure.

    8. GF

      Yeah, yeah, yeah.

    9. JR

      Half of them, at least half of them are dog shit.

    10. GF

      Half would be you're doing pretty well.

    11. JR

      Yeah. It's pretty good, right?

    12. GF

      Yeah.

    13. JR

      But I got a few that I'm like, "Ooh, there's something in this. There's something in this one. Definitely something in this one." They-

    14. GF

      So does it, like, after the show you get high and then you write or you w- or you do it during the day?

    15. JR

      Well, I didn't do any shows this weekend 'cause I was in New York for the UFC and, uh, I had some, uh, friends that I was gonna s- see while I was down there, my friend Tommy. So I was playing pool with him.

    16. GF

      Uh-huh.

    17. JR

      And, uh, Hinchcliff came with me too, he plays pool too. But I just decided not to do comedy this weekend. I'm like, "I'm here for the UFC." I only get a chance to see Tommy, uh, he's like one of my good friends from fucking 20...... five years ago? More? 28 years ago, maybe?

    18. GF

      Yeah.

    19. JR

      I might know him for almost 30 years.

    20. GF

      Wow.

    21. JR

      I've known him for fucking ever, you know? We've become old men together.

    22. GF

      Yeah.

    23. JR

      But, uh, you know, we'd get together and play pool until, like, two o'clock in the morning. I haven't had a chance to do that forever.

    24. GF

      Yeah.

    25. JR

      And I only really get a chance to do it once a year when I see him.

    26. GF

      Mm-hmm.

    27. JR

      So I decided not to do any shows. But, uh, just while we were playing, I was just getting all these ideas. Generally, I like writing at night when everyone's asleep. That's my favorite time to write. I like to come home from the store and I sit around with the laptop and I just start writing.

    28. GF

      Mm-hmm.

    29. JR

      Just force myself to just write for an hour or so.

    30. GF

      Hmm.

  4. 8:3512:13

    Metal detectors and hidden history: treasure hoards, shipwrecks, and museums

    1. JR

      Some guy just found some fucking incredible, uh, ancient treasure using a metal detector.

    2. GF

      Really?

    3. JR

      Yeah. See if you can, j- find, see if you can find that, Jamie. See if you can...

    4. GF

      On a beach?

    5. JR

      Yeah, yeah, yeah. I wanna say, oh fuck, what era was it from?

    6. NA

      Oh, shit. That's like a-

    7. JR

      No, no, that was a different one. That was a- that was a guy-

    8. NA

      Oh, okay.

    9. GF

      Oh, fuck.

    10. JR

      Yeah, that was a crazy one, too. A guy found a fucking shipwreck that was on the beach that was exposed by a crazy storm. Like, a storm came along and it pulled away so much of the sand that a fucking shipwreck was there.

    11. GF

      Damn.

    12. JR

      And so this guy's there walking his dog and he's like, "Um, what-"

    13. GF

      (laughs)

    14. JR

      "... the fuck is this? This is a boat."

    15. GF

      Yeah.

    16. JR

      Yeah. That's crazy. Oh, here it is. It's, uh, what is that, three million pounds?

    17. NA

      Mm-hmm.

    18. JR

      Is that pounds?

    19. NA

      Mm-hmm.

    20. JR

      Um, war hoard of 6,000 gold artifacts from 650 AD uncovered in Staffordshire field using, uh, a two dollar metal d- uh, two-pound metal detector. A metal detector for two dollars.

    21. GF

      Wow.

    22. JR

      Is that pounds or euros? What is that one?

    23. NA

      Uh, it's pounds, yeah.

    24. GF

      I think that's British pounds.

    25. JR

      So from 650 AD, so 650 years after Jesus' murdered.

    26. GF

      Shit.

    27. JR

      Look at that shit. Look how gorgeous that is. It's still got the fur on the top. We're looking at a gold helmet, this really intricate, carved gold helmet with a- a fucking, like a Mohawk, a fur Mohawk. That's amazing.

    28. GF

      And look at the detail. It wasn't corroded at all in that salt water all those years.

    29. JR

      Yeah, that's pretty amazing. Where is Staffordshire? Was it in, it said it was in a field.

    30. GF

      Hmm.

  5. 12:1320:19

    Game of Thrones endings and TV realities: finales, slots, and streaming shifts

    1. JR

      Wouldn't, wouldn't you love to hear people talk back then?

    2. GF

      Yeah, right.

    3. JR

      Like, it probably was so confusing. Like, Game of Thrones, they talk like us, but they didn't talk like us.

    4. GF

      Yeah.

    5. JR

      They had some weird lingo back... Well, Game of Thrones is obviously fake.

    6. GF

      Right.

    7. JR

      But it was supposed to be a long time ago, right?

    8. GF

      Yeah, and I'm sure they researched... I mean, everything about that show was so authentic. I'm sure they went back and tried to find the way people spoke at that time-

    9. JR

      Well, not really though-

    10. GF

      ... and replicate it.

    11. JR

      ... 'cause it's not really about a time. It's about a fantasy land.

    12. GF

      Well, it was... I think it was the War of the Roses, it was based on, which was, I think, around the first century, wasn't it? It was-

    13. JR

      Yeah, but they got fucking d- Dark Knights and... Or l-

    14. GF

      Yeah.

    15. JR

      White Knights or whatever.

    16. GF

      Oh, yeah, no, they mixed a lot of it together.

    17. JR

      Night King. (laughs)

    18. GF

      But I think there was a point where the, uh, where the, the, the British Empire was divided into, whatever it was, five or six different kingdoms-

    19. JR

      Oh, that's what they based it on?

    20. GF

      ... yeah, that were all fighting for the, uh, throne.

    21. JR

      Apparently n- they're gonna do a prequel now.

    22. GF

      Oh.

    23. JR

      Like, those guys, they were not gonna do it. They were gonna cancel it, but they're gonna do it now.

    24. NA

      I think it's, uh... I heard it got canceled.

    25. GF

      Yeah, I heard it got canceled.

    26. JR

      Did it get canceled?

    27. GF

      Yeah.

    28. JR

      But there was just something a couple of days ago that said they're, they're doing a preview, hundreds of years before, that's about the Targaryens.

    29. GF

      That's awesome.

    30. JR

      Fuck, yeah.

  6. 20:1924:04

    Austin love letter: comedy clubs, traffic growth, and tech migration

    1. JR

      Purple's a good word for it. Well, Austin's very weird, right?

    2. GF

      Yeah.

    3. JR

      Austin is this super blue area.

    4. GF

      Mm-hmm.

    5. JR

      In a red state.

    6. GF

      Yeah.

    7. JR

      But it's also got a lot of cowboys and guns and barbecue.

    8. GF

      Yeah.

    9. JR

      It's such a great place.

    10. GF

      Fucking great place.

    11. JR

      Austin's one of the best places on Earth.

    12. GF

      Yeah.

    13. JR

      It really is. And people figured that out too. You go there and the fucking traffic is absurd.

    14. GF

      Yeah.

    15. JR

      And you're like, "What? Why are you all here?" Like-

    16. GF

      Yeah.

    17. JR

      Oh, you found out it's awesome.

    18. GF

      There's a, there's a great place to shoot pool there called the Jackalope. Jackalan- Jack O'Lantern, Jackalope.

    19. JR

      Hmm.

    20. GF

      And uh, it's just like, you just go in there and fucking everybody says hi. "Hey, you wanna shoot a game? Let me buy you a beer."

    21. JR

      Right. Texas.

    22. GF

      Great fucking music on the jukebox. And ah, I love that place.

    23. JR

      Yeah, it's not... Well, they're, they're a little y- I mean, they're kind of aware that it's supposed to be kinda cool, so they act a little cool.

    24. GF

      Yeah.

    25. JR

      Like, you know, Keep Austin Weird, those T-shirts.

    26. GF

      Right. Right.

    27. JR

      By the way, if you wear one of those fucking T-shirts, those Keep Austin Weird T-shirts, you're a part of the problem.

    28. GF

      You're not weird.

    29. JR

      No, you're not weird.

    30. GF

      Yeah.

  7. 24:0431:18

    Epstein, autopsies, and medical weirdness: from conspiracies to mineral talk

    1. GF

      (laughs) Oh, fucking Epstein. Man, what a story.

    2. JR

      What a story.

    3. GF

      And so now, what did they say, that it looks like he was choked to death?

    4. JR

      Murdered. Yeah, his brother hired uh, uh, a real fucking autopsy guy to check it out. Including that guy, Michael Baden, from that HBO autopsy show.

    5. GF

      Hmm.

    6. JR

      That guy said he was murdered. You know who dinged? Did I ding?

    7. GF

      I might've dinged.

    8. JR

      Um-Do you remember that show? HBO, Autopsy?

    9. GF

      No.

    10. JR

      It was a great show that was on basically pre-internet-

    11. GF

      Uh-huh.

    12. JR

      ... where you would watch these wacky fucking stories of, uh, like, people that got busted murdering people by this, this one really good autopsy coroner. And, uh, this coroner, m- Dr. Michael Baden, one of the ones I'll never forget, he took this one lady, he was in love with this lady, and she died, and s- he stole her corpse and had it in his house, and p- put a tube where her vagina was, and h- he had bought cases and cases of perfume 'cause she was rotting in his bed, and he would just douse her in perfume and keep fucking her.

    13. GF

      Wow.

    14. JR

      Dude.

    15. GF

      And he put a tube in her vagina so that-

    16. JR

      He put a tube-

    17. GF

      ... it didn't collapse?

    18. JR

      N- well, he put a tube there so he could fuck the tube.

    19. GF

      (laughs)

    20. JR

      He put a fuck hole in this dead lady's body.

    21. GF

      Damn.

    22. JR

      Yeah, oh my God, dude. And apparently it was like, the smell was insane.

    23. GF

      Yeah.

    24. JR

      Like, horrific. And this guy, one of the r- I think one of the ways they were suspicious, like, "Why is this motherfucker buying cases of perfume?"

    25. GF

      Yeah.

    26. JR

      But he put a mask over her face and, you know, j- just like, just the fact that it used to be her-

    27. GF

      Yeah.

    28. JR

      ... was enough.

    29. GF

      Right.

    30. JR

      I forget his deal. I think... I wanna say he was a doctor that was... and she was a patient of his and he was in love with her.

  8. 31:1833:37

    Road food realities: airports, comedy club meals, and food poisoning

    1. GF

      Hotels have gotten a lot better, man. In our lifetime, hotel food used to be garbage.

    2. JR

      How about airport? Airport food?

    3. GF

      Airport food's gotten great.

    4. JR

      Way better.

    5. GF

      You got lemonades in the air.

    6. JR

      Yes. Yeah, you can get real food at the airport.

    7. GF

      Yeah.

    8. JR

      Yeah.

    9. GF

      Yeah.

    10. JR

      I'm, that's a, that's a big issue, man. It's a big issue for people that go on the road. 'Cause you know, you're on the road like three, four days in a row eating fucking Jack in the Box, you start feeling like shit.

    11. GF

      Oh, yeah. And then if you're... I mean, comedy club food, in 50 years, has not gotten any better.

    12. JR

      (laughs)

    13. GF

      It's deep-fried chicken wings and-

    14. JR

      Except Comedy Magic Club.

    15. GF

      Comedy Magic's got good club- got good food?

    16. JR

      Dude. They give you a fucking serious restaurant steak there. Like you could go there and eat a legit excellent dinner and see a show.

    17. GF

      Oh, what am I saying? Yeah, yeah, yeah. I've had plenty of dinners there.

    18. JR

      It's very good.

    19. GF

      Right, they do have good food.

    20. JR

      Icehouse has good burgers too.

    21. GF

      Yeah.

    22. JR

      Icehouse has very good burgers.

    23. GF

      Uh-huh.

    24. JR

      Um, but, uh, Comedy Magic Club is probably the tops. That's top.

    25. GF

      And then, you know what's good too, is, uh, Hilarity's in Cleveland, they got the Pickwick & Frolic Restaurant upstairs.

    26. JR

      Yes, yes. I was just there.

    27. GF

      That's a good restaurant.

    28. JR

      I was just there.

    29. GF

      Really?

    30. JR

      Yeah, we went to see Jessie May, me and, uh, Santino. Jessie May was playing at Hilarity's, and we were over at, uh, we were at this arena. So we came down and saw Jessie May, and, uh, I had a prime rib. It was fucking great.

  9. 33:3749:42

    Water survival and malaria: elk wallows, SteriPens, and mosquito consequences

    1. JR

      Well, they used to drink wine, uh, when people would travel to prevent traveler's illness.

    2. GF

      Hmm.

    3. JR

      'Cause they didn't want to drink water, 'cause if you drank wa- Like, if you found a fucking, a pond somewhere and you try to suck some water out of it-

    4. GF

      Yeah.

    5. JR

      ... like back then, there wasn't a lot... I mean, you had to boil it, that's it.

    6. GF

      Yeah.

    7. JR

      You know? Nowadays, you can get... They have a bunch of different things you could do to water if you find it. Like, you could take water out of a fucking elk wallow. You know what an elk wallow is?

    8. GF

      No.

    9. JR

      W- uh, it's like a puddle that elk piss in, and they wallow around in it, and they get their scent on it, they... Especially when they're rutting, when they're having sex with the female elk. They get in there, and they piss all over the water, and they roll around in it, and so you get this muddy puddle. And sometimes hikers, like if you're on some serious fucking trek, you know, you're doing like the Appalachian Trail or something like that-

    10. GF

      Yeah.

    11. JR

      ... and your water's scarce, you can't find a creek, you gotta take the water out of an elk wallow. I have friend-

    12. GF

      No shit.

    13. JR

      I have friends that have done that. And you throw it through some filters.

    14. GF

      Yeah.

    15. JR

      What they do is they'll take it and they'll throw it through filters. Well, they'll, they'll put it through a biological filter first, so they- there's like a, a f- a filter that... It's like a pump. But the problem is with those, those pumps can get clogged up 'cause they're basically taking sediment and they, and then they're filtering it out, and then you get the water afterwards, it still tastes like piss.

    16. GF

      Yeah.

    17. JR

      'Cause there's piss in it. You're drinking piss.

    18. GF

      Yeah.

    19. JR

      You're just drinking piss that's not contaminated with something that can kill you.

    20. GF

      Wow.

    21. JR

      So then, a lot of times, guys, even after that, they take something called a SteriPen. You ever heard of a SteriPen?

    22. GF

      No.

    23. JR

      Steri's short for sterilization pen, and it uses some kind of light. P- pull, pull up SteriPen f... I don't wanna say this wrong, but u- utilizing some sort of light, uh, some sort of, um... I forgot what kind of light. What is it?

    24. GF

      UV light.

    25. JR

      UV light. And you, you keep it in the water for a certain amount of time, it just nukes everything, kills everything. But still-

    26. GF

      That's amazing.

    27. JR

      ... tastes like piss, so you're drinking piss.

    28. GF

      Yeah.

    29. JR

      You're definitely drinking piss. So a lot of times guys will take... Like, they sell these different... There's a SteriPen. So that little thing with that light, you spin it around inside your, your glass of water, and depending upon the amount of ounces, a certain amount of time, but it's not that much time sh- shockingly. It's like 10 minutes. And sometimes guys even throw, um, iodine tablets in water to like... The whole deal is just kill anything that could fuck you up.

    30. GF

      Right.

  10. 49:421:08:41

    The great fart spiral: family gas culture, fetish porn, and absurd biology

    1. GF

      Dude, I've been farting.

    2. JR

      Whoo.

    3. GF

      Phenomenally. I enjoy farting.

    4. JR

      Do you?

    5. GF

      And my wife laughs at it, thank God. We wouldn't still be together.

    6. JR

      You fart in front of her?

    7. GF

      Oh, yeah.

    8. JR

      You don't even let her know it's coming?

    9. GF

      No, it's a, it's an, it's... I will walk in the room with a fart because she laughs at it.

    10. JR

      (farts)

    11. GF

      I don't know what it is.

    12. NA

      (laughs)

    13. GF

      She thinks it's funny every fucking time I fart.

    14. NA

      (clapping)

    15. JR

      She's like your guy.

    16. GF

      Yeah.

    17. JR

      (laughs)

    18. NA

      (laughs)

    19. GF

      She is. And she farts, she wishes she could fart as much as I do.

    20. JR

      Mm-hmm.

    21. GF

      But when she does, she lets me know.

    22. JR

      (farts)

    23. GF

      Our family does.

    24. JR

      The whole family farts?

    25. GF

      Son farts at the dinner table, we all laugh.

    26. JR

      Whoa. (laughs)

    27. GF

      Yeah. We're very open about it.

    28. JR

      But do you think that that's gonna carry on to his next relationship?

    29. GF

      I hope so.

    30. JR

      I hope so too. But it's hard to find a gal that's down with that.

  11. 1:08:411:23:36

    Culture wars and trans sports: fairness, categories, and online punishment

    1. JR

      Because he was, (coughs) we were doing a, a gig at the store on a Friday night, and he was supposed to be on right before me. But they were like, "Actually, let's have Kyle go on after you," because apparently his whole thing needs a big setup. Confirms gender reassignment s- s- s-study. What?

    2. NA

      Yeah. Well...

    3. JR

      Um, uh, s- she confirms gender re- hold on, put that back up. (clears throat) It says, "Caitlyn Jenner confirms gender reassignment surgery in 2020" interview. Okay. But the problem is, she just did an interview recently. She said she still has it.

    4. GF

      Hmm.

    5. JR

      What is gender reassignment surgery? They fucking wave a wand over you like a, like they knight you? "I hereby announce you have a vagina." "I have a vagina?" "Yes."

    6. GF

      "Arise." (laughs)

    7. JR

      "You now have a vagina." "Okay." I mean, look, if you can just-

    8. GF

      And they're tapping you on the head with your penis.

    9. JR

      If you're clearly a man and you could just say you're a woman, why can't you say you have a vagina?

    10. GF

      Mm-hmm.

    11. JR

      W- we're gonna play make believe, let's just play make believe all the way.

    12. GF

      Yeah.

    13. JR

      Fuck it.

    14. GF

      Yeah.

    15. JR

      Because, look, my friend Zuby, he was a guest on the podcast, he, uh, claimed he was a woman for a day and broke the women's world record in deadlift.

    16. GF

      What did he have to do to qualify as a woman?

    17. JR

      Nothing. You don't have to do anything.

    18. GF

      You just say it.

    19. JR

      You just identify.

    20. GF

      Oh.

    21. JR

      You can identify as a woman.

    22. GF

      Yeah. Wasn't-

    23. JR

      I mean, who are you to say that he didn't identify as a woman, you fucking transphobic piece of shit?

    24. GF

      I know, I feel bad now.

    25. JR

      You should. Jesus Christ, Greg.

    26. GF

      I just...

    27. JR

      All these years we've known each other-

    28. GF

      I just feel like-

    29. JR

      ... I can't believe I didn't know that you had this in you.

    30. GF

      It's, it's just my childhood, I think I was-

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