Joe Rogan Experience #1387 - Josh Homme

1. 0:00 – 15:00

   (humming) Boom. Did you…

   1. JRJoe Rogan0:00

      (humming) Boom. Did you roll in on a motorcycle?

   2. JHJosh Homme0:05

      I did.

   3. JRJoe Rogan0:05

      You're a fucking animal.

   4. JHJosh Homme0:07

      (laughs)

   5. JRJoe Rogan0:07

      In this day and age, in LA traffic?

   6. JHJosh Homme0:09

      But, uh, d- there's a, there's a bit of a zen thing happening because if you don't pay attention, you could die, you know?

   7. JRJoe Rogan0:17

      Oh, right.

   8. JHJosh Homme0:17

      You know, I, and I, I find myself trying to have this field of view. And plus, you can't be on the phone.

   9. JRJoe Rogan0:24

      Right.

   10. JHJosh Homme0:25

       Because, uh, I think sometimes when it's, when you drive a car, you forget to take the moment to do nothing-

   11. JRJoe Rogan0:30

       Right.

   12. JHJosh Homme0:30

       ... and just sort of be for a second.

   13. JRJoe Rogan0:32

       Yeah.

   14. JHJosh Homme0:32

       Uh, and you can listen to tunes, and it makes all the songs better. Like, I, I don't know if I fully appreciated Judas Priest until I rode a motorcycle and could listen to music, like-

   15. JRJoe Rogan0:43

       So, you listen, like, in your head? Like, you have it in, uh, your, your-

   16. JHJosh Homme0:46

       No, that, that one has a ... I, I, I'm, I have the luxury of having a couple of them, and ... But that one's almost like the grandpa bike for going to the movies, but-

   17. JRJoe Rogan0:52

       But is it its speakers, or is it in the helmet?

   18. JHJosh Homme0:54

       It's speakers.

   19. JRJoe Rogan0:55

       Oh.

   20. JHJosh Homme0:55

       I, I don't do the helmet 'cause there's so much of that in my life anyways.

   21. JRJoe Rogan0:58

       Oh.

   22. JHJosh Homme0:58

       Like, pointblank range.

   23. JRJoe Rogan0:59

       Oh, right, right, right. Yeah.

   24. JHJosh Homme1:00

       (laughs) And so it's, it's almost like you kinda end up rocking your head like that.

   25. JRJoe Rogan1:05

       Yeah.

   26. JHJosh Homme1:05

       And you're like, << Breaking the law >>

   27. JRJoe Rogan1:07

       (laughs)

   28. JHJosh Homme1:07

       It, it, it sort of, like, flips your Beavis switch. (laughs)

   29. JRJoe Rogan1:13

       (laughs)

   30. JHJosh Homme1:13

       And, and it feels wonderful. Like, the, the wind in your hair.
2. 15:00 – 30:00

   Yeah, the shaman did.…

   1. JRJoe Rogan15:00

      ponds just to look at the reflection of the stars and, and map them out?

   2. JHJosh Homme15:04

      Yeah, the shaman did. That was, like, in their neighborhood. And if you're ... The way you were a shaman is if you had a birthmark on your head when you were born, they immediate were like, two boards, rope, and just put two boards and roped you and began a lifetime of, of like, "So you're a shaman?" Which, if you had a lifetime of that, you'd be like, "Hi, shaman. Sha- Hey, shaman." I mean, it's-

   3. JRJoe Rogan15:26

      So it's like being born a royal. But even-

   4. JHJosh Homme15:27

      "Squeeze the shaman. Don't squeeze the shaman." Oh.

   5. JRJoe Rogan15:29

      Even more weird, right? Because it's, you don't have a history or a bloodline of it. It's just, they find you.

   6. JHJosh Homme15:32

      It's, it's the study of what we are and that that is significant.

   7. JRJoe Rogan15:36

      Mm-hmm.

   8. JHJosh Homme15:37

      Because, uh, I, it f- it felt to me immediate, like, "Well, everyone can't do that. We need ... You know, you don't have the thing on you, so you ..."

   9. JRJoe Rogan15:44

      Yeah, if you don't have the birthmark.

   10. JHJosh Homme15:45

       Yeah. I mean, that's a really good f- like, uh, entry, you know, at the gate. (laughs)

   11. JRJoe Rogan15:50

       You know, that's the case with the Dalai Lama too. I think they found him when he was, I wanna say he was nine. How old was the Dalai Lama when they found him? But they just decided, "Oh, you're a reincarnated holy man, and so you don't have to work ever again."

   12. JHJosh Homme16:02

       (laughs) I know, but can you imagine being nine, and you're just, like, have two toys, and you're like, "Huh?"

   13. JRJoe Rogan16:06

       Yeah, like, "What?"

   14. JHJosh Homme16:07

       (laughs)

   15. JRJoe Rogan16:08

       Yeah, this is the, how it goes.

   16. JHJosh Homme16:09

       "Mom!"

   17. JRJoe Rogan16:09

       "You don't have to work, but no pussy ever."

   18. JHJosh Homme16:11

       (laughs)

   19. JRJoe Rogan16:11

       Like, "What?"

   20. JHJosh Homme16:12

       "What?"

   21. JRJoe Rogan16:12

       "What are you talking about?"

   22. JHJosh Homme16:13

       I'd be like, "Mom!"

   23. JRJoe Rogan16:15

       (laughs)

   24. JHJosh Homme16:15

       "They say, they say I'm-"

   25. JRJoe Rogan16:16

       You don't know what you're missing yet.

   26. JHJosh Homme16:18

       (laughs) Yeah, before you know.

   27. JRJoe Rogan16:20

       It's just a, a weird choice that ... And then people look to him like there's something incredibly special about him, right? He's the Dalai Lama. But it's not like he went through this long sort of, uh, apprenticeship period where he meditated and then became the Dalai Lama, no.

   28. JHJosh Homme16:36

       Or yeah, out of 20 meditators, they're like, "You were the quietest, come with me." (laughs)

   29. JRJoe Rogan16:39

       Yeah, "You're the best, bro. You, the way you focus." No, he's fucking nine.

   30. JHJosh Homme16:42

       "Hey, hey, focus on me for a sec. I gotta get out of it." You know?
3. 30:00 – 45:00

   Yeah. …

   1. JHJosh Homme30:00

   2. JRJoe Rogan30:00

      Yeah.

   3. JHJosh Homme30:00

      Because anyone that's been to a fami- family reunion is like ... Has said-

   4. JRJoe Rogan30:05

      Yeah.

   5. JHJosh Homme30:05

      ... "Oh, fucking Gary? Really?"

   6. JRJoe Rogan30:07

      (laughs) Yeah.

   7. JHJosh Homme30:08

      You know?

   8. JRJoe Rogan30:08

      Well, then also like the, the different environments that people live in sort of dictate their personal- ... Like, you're a desert guy, right? When-

   9. JHJosh Homme30:15

      Yeah.

   10. JRJoe Rogan30:15

       You're from the desert. Yeah. What is that? Scorpion.

   11. JHJosh Homme30:18

       The, I'm, uh ... I'm one of the few people I know that's been bit by one.

   12. JRJoe Rogan30:21

       Have you really?

   13. JHJosh Homme30:23

       Yeah. And, and as I g- ... (sighs) I was going up the Joshua Tree to this studio that's really just a house (laughs) and called-

   14. JRJoe Rogan30:30

       Was that the one that the guys, uh, showed in the thing you did with Bourdain?

   15. JHJosh Homme30:34

       Yeah. Yeah. Uh-huh. Uh, Rancho De La Luna.

   16. JRJoe Rogan30:37

       Yeah.

   17. JHJosh Homme30:38

       And, um ... But its magic is, is what's missing. (laughs) ... and I mean everywhere. Every ...

   18. JRJoe Rogan30:44

       Mm-hmm.

   19. JHJosh Homme30:44

       But, um, and all that's left is like what if you just, when the tide receded, it was just the idiosyncratic and the previously thrown away-

   20. JRJoe Rogan30:54

       Mm-hmm.

   21. JHJosh Homme30:55

       ... like all in reborn in a ... You know, it's just got that sort of feeling to it, right? So, um, and so I was driving up there. And I know ... I'm a desert boy. I know that you're not supposed to ... At nighttime is when everything comes out. (laughs)

   22. JRJoe Rogan31:10

       Right.

   23. JHJosh Homme31:11

       Because in the day, everyone is like, "Ugh. Really?" I mean, everything that walks or crawls is like ... And so at night, everyone, everything that walks or crawls goes, "All right, let'th go."

   24. JRJoe Rogan31:22

       Right.

   25. JHJosh Homme31:23

       And so you wear shoes. (laughs)

   26. JRJoe Rogan31:25

       (laughs)

   27. JHJosh Homme31:25

       If you do not wear shoes, you're, it's, you, you have made a mistake, for sure. And as soon as we pull up to the rancho and the dirt parking lot, I open up, (laughs) I open up the door e- and I'm on the passenger side. And I, and I step out, and I go in to reach for a 12-pack of beer. And something hit me on the foot, and I was like ... And I lift my foot, and there's this black or da- dark-brownish, like a root beer-y brown scorpion hanging from my foot going, "Hey, hey, hey, hey, hey."

   28. JRJoe Rogan31:57

       (sighs)

   29. JHJosh Homme31:58

       And I, and I was like ... I, I think it was like, "Ah!"

   30. JRJoe Rogan32:02

       (laughs)
4. 45:00 – 1:00:00

   Grr. …

   1. JHJosh Homme45:00

      Grr.

   2. JRJoe Rogan45:00

      Yeah.

   3. JHJosh Homme45:01

      The constant drone of success.

   4. JRJoe Rogan45:04

      Yeah.

   5. JHJosh Homme45:04

      You know? (laughs)

   6. JRJoe Rogan45:05

      I mean, that's, that's where the real horrific death has occurred, right? In the ocean.

   7. JHJosh Homme45:11

      Right.

   8. JRJoe Rogan45:11

      Imagine what the ocean was like in terms of, like, teeming with life in 1492.

   9. JHJosh Homme45:15

      Yeah, I mean, yeah, 'cause they talk about that trash, the thing that really was a, a ... It was nutrients before. (laughs) That's why all the animals came there. You know, you know about the ... You know, there's a trash plastic island-

   10. JRJoe Rogan45:28

       Oh, you mean, yeah.

   11. JHJosh Homme45:28

       ... the size of Texas.

   12. JRJoe Rogan45:29

       Yeah, yeah.

   13. JHJosh Homme45:30

       But, um, the ... It all gathers there because of the currents.

   14. JRJoe Rogan45:33

       Mm-hmm.

   15. JHJosh Homme45:34

       And previously, it wasn't an island of, of plastic, but in fact, an i- an island of nutrients that dr- brought everything in.

   16. JRJoe Rogan45:41

       Mm-hmm.

   17. JHJosh Homme45:41

       So it was like hometown buffet for fish things. And-

   18. JRJoe Rogan45:46

       Right. Right, things that ate the plants.

   19. JHJosh Homme45:47

       And now they're showing up and they're like, ugh, shit.

   20. JRJoe Rogan45:49

       Right.

   21. JHJosh Homme45:50

       You know what I mean?

   22. JRJoe Rogan45:51

       Yeah.

   23. JHJosh Homme45:51

       How's the six-pack ring look on me? It sort of-

   24. JRJoe Rogan45:54

       Yeah.

   25. JHJosh Homme45:56

       Bummer.

   26. JRJoe Rogan45:57

       It's a fucking bummer.

   27. JHJosh Homme45:58

       Yeah.

   28. JRJoe Rogan45:59

       Yeah. What's up, Jeremy?

   29. NANarrator46:00

       Did you see what, you know, Colin O'Brady, who was on the podcast a few m- months ago now-

   30. JRJoe Rogan46:03

       Sure. Yeah, he's gonna row across-
5. 1:00:00 – 1:10:16

   Mm-hmm. …

   1. JHJosh Homme1:00:00

      of weakness, you know? And, and so I think, I think pursuing music that way is great, but not if it's keeping you from doing that in life. And so it's not just that I would think that way so my band would do well. It's that I would think that way so that I could, I could do well-

   2. JRJoe Rogan1:00:18

      Mm-hmm.

   3. JHJosh Homme1:00:18

      ... and I could be well, you know?

   4. JRJoe Rogan1:00:19

      Right.

   5. JHJosh Homme1:00:20

      And, uh, um, and so that, that's why s- I started listening to her not seeing any of the opening gambit of, of her transforming into, um-

   6. JRJoe Rogan1:00:31

      Abraham.

   7. JHJosh Homme1:00:32

      Abraham.

   8. JRJoe Rogan1:00:32

      Yeah.

   9. JHJosh Homme1:00:32

      And not caring and not understanding what that means. Just going like, "I'm just listening to what you're saying while I'm driving."

   10. JRJoe Rogan1:00:37

       Right.

   11. JHJosh Homme1:00:38

       And, um, hearing that, and the way she speaks, uh, regarding those things is really fascinating. I, I, I choose to detach myself from-

   12. JRJoe Rogan1:00:48

       Judgment?

   13. JHJosh Homme1:00:49

       Yeah. Because-

   14. JRJoe Rogan1:00:50

       Yeah.

   15. JHJosh Homme1:00:50

       ... uh, 'cause I know one thing, nothing. (laughs)

   16. JRJoe Rogan1:00:53

       Well, it's, it's, it's, it's weird, because she's saying very wise things. But-

   17. JHJosh Homme1:00:58

       Right, and, but it'd be a shame to get the, just 'cause I don't, um, that's not the wrapper I would pick, that I don't like the candy inside.

   18. JRJoe Rogan1:01:05

       Right. Yeah, the channeling part of it. Yeah.

   19. JHJosh Homme1:01:08

       Well, yeah, so it's not ex- Oh, you mean it's not exactly how I would do it? Well, fuck this, then.

   20. JRJoe Rogan1:01:14

       Well, it's not just that. It's, like, you're listening to wisdom, but are you listening to wisdom from someone who's made up a fairytale? That's where it gets confusing. It's like-

   21. JHJosh Homme1:01:21

       Well, of, of-

   22. JRJoe Rogan1:01:22

       ... she, she's channeling?

   23. JHJosh Homme1:01:23

       Well, but I-

   24. JRJoe Rogan1:01:24

       Who is she channeling?

   25. JHJosh Homme1:01:25

       But I-

   26. JRJoe Rogan1:01:25

       And how is she doing that?

   27. JHJosh Homme1:01:26

       I also think that...To be able to learn something, this, this, again, this awakening in me is so new. Um, like it- it's, in all honesty it's, it's like a month and a half old, but it feels really good. (laughs)

   28. JRJoe Rogan1:01:40

       What happened?

   29. JHJosh Homme1:01:41

       The, uh, it's just that, um, you know, um, I think that engagement in life, you know, um, and also, you know, feeling a bit lost and, and not knowing how to ask for, how to ask for, um, help sometimes. You know what I mean?

   30. JRJoe Rogan1:02:00

       Mm-hmm.

Episode duration: 2:17:49