Joe Rogan Experience #1390 - Tim Dillon

1. 0:00 – 3:01

   Meghan McCain impression fallout and the mechanics of “The View”

   1. JRJoe Rogan0:00

      (knock on table) Three, two, one. Ladies and gentlemen, the president of the Megyn Kelly Fan- no, Megyn McCain.

   2. TDTim Dillon0:07

      (laughs)

   3. JRJoe Rogan0:08

      I fucked it up.

   4. TDTim Dillon0:08

      Megyn McCain. President of the Megyn McCain Fan Club.

   5. JRJoe Rogan0:11

      Has she reached out to you at all?

   6. TDTim Dillon0:11

      She's blocked me.

   7. JRJoe Rogan0:12

      No.

   8. TDTim Dillon0:13

      She blocked me and I, I didn't tag her in the video, because I'm not that, that guy.

   9. JRJoe Rogan0:18

      Right.

   10. TDTim Dillon0:18

       But I did, you know, I mean, I put it out there into the world.

   11. JRJoe Rogan0:22

       (laughs)

   12. TDTim Dillon0:23

       She's not thrilled, probably.

   13. JRJoe Rogan0:26

       Uh-huh. Yeah.

   14. TDTim Dillon0:26

       I know somebody that knows her pretty well.

   15. JRJoe Rogan0:28

       Yeah.

   16. TDTim Dillon0:28

       And they said that she is not happy with my depiction of her. She did, though, after the first video, she lost a lot of weight.

   17. JRJoe Rogan0:38

       Seemed like she put it back on.

   18. TDTim Dillon0:39

       She did, and it's-

   19. JRJoe Rogan0:40

       (laughs)

   20. TDTim Dillon0:40

       ... I yo-yo with her. So when she gets thinner, I get thinner so I can do her.

   21. JRJoe Rogan0:46

       (laughs)

   22. TDTim Dillon0:46

       And when she plumps up, I plump back up. So that's where we're at, is that I just kind of mirror her.

   23. JRJoe Rogan0:51

       Hmm.

   24. TDTim Dillon0:52

       Um-

   25. JRJoe Rogan0:53

       How uncomfortable.

   26. TDTim Dillon0:54

       She's, I would, you know, I was, 'cause, you know, sometimes I'll go back to New York to do shows and I imagine, like, "What if I'm in a restaurant and I see her?" You know, what would a, what would a meeting be like?

   27. JRJoe Rogan1:05

       What-

   28. TDTim Dillon1:05

       Because I have no-

   29. JRJoe Rogan1:06

       ... real ill will. It's just comedy.

   30. TDTim Dillon1:08

       It's just comedy.
2. 3:01 – 5:09

   Fox News “fembot” economy and Tim’s 3AM Red Eye stories

   1. TDTim Dillon3:01

      I used to, I used to do Redeye on Fox News, which would air at 3:00 AM. They would bring in, like, all these hot blondes would sit in the green room, and they would be nice. And they'd be like, "I'm Miss Tallahassee."

   2. JRJoe Rogan3:11

      (laughs)

   3. TDTim Dillon3:13

      And then they would get on Fox Redeye, and then the cameras would turn on and they would start going, "Syria," and I would be like, "Syria? What the hell-"

   4. JRJoe Rogan3:22

      That wasn't-

   5. TDTim Dillon3:22

      "... do you know about Syria?"

   6. JRJoe Rogan3:24

      (laughs)

   7. TDTim Dillon3:25

      I mean, but they would just go and go.

   8. JRJoe Rogan3:27

      Right.

   9. TDTim Dillon3:27

      And it was f- and it, you know, that was a fun show because Redeye was a show that was on at 3:00 AM.

   10. JRJoe Rogan3:33

       Yes.

   11. TDTim Dillon3:33

       And nobody really watched it, and nothing you said would get recorded. Like, it wouldn't, there would be no clips or anything, so you could kind of just go wild.

   12. JRJoe Rogan3:42

       For a while.

   13. TDTim Dillon3:43

       For a while. So comedians like me who had no knowledge or background knowledge on anything-

   14. JRJoe Rogan3:48

       (laughs)

   15. TDTim Dillon3:49

       ... got to, and I would wear, like, a jacket, so you wouldn't know, I guess it would say comedian under me, but not always. And I used to just go on that and just say whatever I wanted to, and I'd be sitting next to John Bolton.

   16. JRJoe Rogan4:03

       (laughs)

   17. TDTim Dillon4:04

       And they didn't pay you, they would just give you a car to wherever you were going.

   18. JRJoe Rogan4:08

       Mm-hmm.

   19. TDTim Dillon4:08

       And I would just come on and say whatever the hell I wanted, and in a news studio.

   20. JRJoe Rogan4:12

       Yeah.

   21. TDTim Dillon4:12

       So that was like a funny, but that's when I met a lot of those Fox... And by the way, they're all fun people.

   22. JRJoe Rogan4:17

       Oh, yeah.

   23. TDTim Dillon4:17

       They're all fun people.

   24. JRJoe Rogan4:18

       Well, I think there's a business in being a fembot, and I don't begrudge them, like I don't begrudge, uh, bodybuilders who are on Instagram.

   25. TDTim Dillon4:25

       Right.

   26. JRJoe Rogan4:26

       You know, I mean, like-

   27. TDTim Dillon4:27

       Right.

   28. JRJoe Rogan4:27

       ... you know, "This is my new ab set."

   29. TDTim Dillon4:29

       Yeah.

   30. JRJoe Rogan4:29

       "I'm gonna, I'm gonna take you guys through this."
3. 5:09 – 7:40

   Candace Owens as a professional culture-war fighter

   1. JRJoe Rogan5:09

      Well, the best one, in my opinion, is Candace Owens. Because Can-

   2. TDTim Dillon5:14

      Candid- Yeah.

   3. JRJoe Rogan5:14

      Yeah, because they bring her into these conversations and they underestimate her. You know-

   4. TDTim Dillon5:18

      They did-

   5. JRJoe Rogan5:18

      ... I've seen that several times.

   6. TDTim Dillon5:19

      ... they did a great thing, and I forget who did it, but it was her and Killer Mike. It was a, it was a, uh, a, a panel that maybe P Diddy sponsored or something, and it was a, a, a, a panel with j- of thought leaders in the Black community, and she was on it, Killer Mike was on it, and it was a re- and, uh, one of the girls from Black Lives Matter, and it was a really interesting conversation. Candace is very smart.

   7. JRJoe Rogan5:40

      Oh, she's very smart.

   8. TDTim Dillon5:41

      I don't agree with her on some of the things-

   9. JRJoe Rogan5:42

      Right.

   10. TDTim Dillon5:42

       ... she says, but she's very intelligent.

   11. JRJoe Rogan5:44

       Here it is.

   12. TDTim Dillon5:44

       Here it is, yeah.

   13. JRJoe Rogan5:44

       Killer Mike adds context to TI-

   14. TDTim Dillon5:47

       Okay.

   15. JRJoe Rogan5:47

       ... and Candace Owens' revolt sem- uh, summit organ-

   16. TDTim Dillon5:49

       Yeah, Diddy was, I think, in the front row, just 'cause I'm gonna get accused of being a racist, you know?

   17. JRJoe Rogan5:53

       "What do you mean? You can't, can't tell the difference?"

   18. TDTim Dillon5:55

       Yeah.

   19. JRJoe Rogan5:56

       Um, and then Candace was also on something recently where some white woman who was a professor accused her of saying something racist, and she shut that lady down so hard.

   20. TDTim Dillon6:08

       Yeah.

   21. JRJoe Rogan6:09

       Because, like, she was saying, she was laughing at something, and the woman said, the woman tried to check her and shame her for what she was laughing at. And she's like, "No, no, no. I'm laughing at you."

   22. TDTim Dillon6:19

       Wow.

   23. JRJoe Rogan6:19

       Like, "I'm laughing at what you're saying." You should-

   24. TDTim Dillon6:21

       Yeah.

   25. JRJoe Rogan6:22

       We can't play it, right?

   26. NANarrator6:23

       No, you cannot.

   27. JRJoe Rogan6:23

       No, we couldn't play it. If we play it, we'll, we'll fucking get pulled off YouTube, but it's, uh...... it's, she shut her down.

   28. TDTim Dillon6:29

       Yeah.

   29. JRJoe Rogan6:29

       And there was also that, uh, that Asian congressman. He tried some stupid shit on her, too.

   30. TDTim Dillon6:34

       Yes. She, she shut him down, too.
4. 7:40 – 8:40

   YouTube rule anxiety, parody risks, and “crisis kid” satire setup

   1. TDTim Dillon7:40

      And she didn't like that. The thing now I'm nervous about is with all the new YouTube rules, can they just decide to get rid of my account for, or to just say it's not commercially viable?

   2. JRJoe Rogan7:52

      You don't have a real problem with that because-

   3. TDTim Dillon7:53

      Okay.

   4. JRJoe Rogan7:53

      ... you're making fun of someone on the right.

   5. TDTim Dillon7:56

      Interesting.

   6. JRJoe Rogan7:56

      Yeah.

   7. TDTim Dillon7:56

      But I do make fun of people on the left. I mean, I-

   8. JRJoe Rogan7:58

      Yeah.

   9. TDTim Dillon7:58

      I did a video, I pretended to be the agent of the climate girl, Greta Thunberg.

   10. JRJoe Rogan8:02

       Oh. (laughs)

   11. TDTim Dillon8:02

       And, because I'm like, you know, I pretended to be like David Hogg's agent.

   12. JRJoe Rogan8:05

       Can we play that? Can we play that?

   13. TDTim Dillon8:05

       You could absolutely play it.

   14. JRJoe Rogan8:06

       Yeah, play that, play that.

   15. TDTim Dillon8:07

       Absolutely play it.

   16. JRJoe Rogan8:08

       Is that on, is it on Instagram?

   17. TDTim Dillon8:09

       It's on, uh, it's on my YouTube channel and it's, it's, uh, I'm sure it's on Instagram but I don't know if it's IGTV or whatever. But so I, I, I... Because I want to fuck with everybody.

   18. JRJoe Rogan8:17

       Yes.

   19. TDTim Dillon8:18

       So I was like, this girl Greta Thunberg, let's be honest, she has some good points, but a little, it's a little creepy. It's a little creepy.

   20. JRJoe Rogan8:23

       Well, she's like... How old is she?

   21. TDTim Dillon8:25

       She's too young for me to say that about.

   22. JRJoe Rogan8:27

       Is she like 14?

   23. TDTim Dillon8:28

       Yes.

   24. JRJoe Rogan8:29

       She could be 50, too, though.

   25. TDTim Dillon8:31

       Yes, it's creepy, like-

   26. JRJoe Rogan8:32

       Something's wrong.

   27. TDTim Dillon8:32

       ... I turned on my TV and she was like, "How dare you?" And I'm like, "Well, why are we starting there?"

   28. JRJoe Rogan8:37

       But there's something about her face, too. It's like some- it's almost like-

   29. TDTim Dillon8:40

       I know.

5. 8:40 – 18:12

   The Natalia Grace adoption case: horror-movie ambiguity and dark humor

   1. JRJoe Rogan8:40

      Did you hear the story about the couple-

   2. TDTim Dillon8:41

      I think she has a thing, potentially.

   3. JRJoe Rogan8:43

      There was a couple-

   4. TDTim Dillon8:44

      Yeah.

   5. JRJoe Rogan8:44

      ... that, uh, adopted a child from Russia and they thought-

   6. TDTim Dillon8:48

      Yes.

   7. JRJoe Rogan8:48

      ... that the child was, uh, a little kid, and it turned out she might have been 30.

   8. TDTim Dillon8:54

      Yes.

   9. JRJoe Rogan8:54

      They don't know how old she was.

   10. TDTim Dillon8:55

       Yes.

   11. JRJoe Rogan8:55

       She tried to kill them.

   12. TDTim Dillon8:58

       (laughs)

   13. JRJoe Rogan8:58

       (laughs) She scared them. It was a fucking horror movie.

   14. TDTim Dillon9:00

       These are the best stories.

   15. JRJoe Rogan9:01

       They thought they were, they thought they were adopting a little kid.

   16. TDTim Dillon9:03

       Yeah.

   17. JRJoe Rogan9:03

       Like a little six year old, and it's a fucking 30 year old with some sort of a metabolic disease.

   18. TDTim Dillon9:06

       Yeah. Well, that serves you right for trying to be a do-gooder. You know?

   19. JRJoe Rogan9:10

       (laughs)

   20. TDTim Dillon9:10

       They'll never do anything again for anybody.

   21. JRJoe Rogan9:12

       Not now.

   22. TDTim Dillon9:12

       They'll never do one thing.

   23. JRJoe Rogan9:14

       Like, the husband will try to bring it up. She's like, "Fuck you, Herman!"

   24. TDTim Dillon9:16

       "Fuck you!"

   25. JRJoe Rogan9:17

       "You almost got me killed by that midget!"

   26. TDTim Dillon9:19

       Yeah. I mean, the idea that there are midgets dressing up as children and trying to burrow into families so that they can wake up in the middle of the night and kill them-

   27. JRJoe Rogan9:28

       Yeah.

   28. TDTim Dillon9:28

       ... is truly the funniest thing that has happened in, in, in recent memory.

   29. JRJoe Rogan9:33

       I don't think she's technically a midget.

   30. TDTim Dillon9:34

       Okay.
6. 18:12 – 23:16

   Reading comments, counterpunching trolls, and why audiences pile on

   1. TDTim Dillon18:12

      ... that I don't... I agree, but there's a lot of people on YouTube that like to just let it fly.

   2. NANarrator18:15

      (laughs)

   3. TDTim Dillon18:15

      They really like to let it fly.

   4. JRJoe Rogan18:16

      You're not supposed to read that stuff. You're getting a little too famous.

   5. TDTim Dillon18:18

      I know, but sometimes I do. I don't know about that, but I, I-

   6. JRJoe Rogan18:20

      You're getting a little too famous to read YouTube comments.

   7. TDTim Dillon18:22

      I read the stuff and sometimes it's brutal.

   8. JRJoe Rogan18:25

      Yeah, it can be mean.

   9. TDTim Dillon18:25

      And sometimes I'll answer. Like never on YouTube, but sometimes on IG, Instagram I'll answer and say something back. I... One guy said something to me once and I said something back to him. I went... 'Cause I looked at his page and it was just his chick holding a bunch of other people's kids, so I said, "Why don't you impregnate your girlfriend so she doesn't have to run around with other people's kids?"

   10. JRJoe Rogan18:44

       Ooh. (gasps)

   11. TDTim Dillon18:45

       So it was wild.

   12. JRJoe Rogan18:46

       Wow.

   13. TDTim Dillon18:46

       And then they deleted my comment.

   14. JRJoe Rogan18:48

       Whoa.

   15. TDTim Dillon18:48

       Yeah.

   16. JRJoe Rogan18:49

       When he was going after you, you went after him?

   17. TDTim Dillon18:50

       He was going after me. I went back at him-

   18. JRJoe Rogan18:51

       And they deleted yours?

   19. TDTim Dillon18:52

       ... and they deleted my comment.

   20. JRJoe Rogan18:54

       Wow.

   21. TDTim Dillon18:54

       This is the world we're living in now.

   22. JRJoe Rogan18:56

       Hmm. Well, you shouldn't-

   23. TDTim Dillon18:57

       It was inappropriate for me to go to his page.

   24. JRJoe Rogan19:00

       Well, it's natural though.

   25. TDTim Dillon19:01

       Yeah. It was wrong, but I did it.

   26. JRJoe Rogan19:02

       It's counterpunching, it's natural.

   27. TDTim Dillon19:03

       Yeah. It was just... But I was trying to... You know, this is my job.

   28. JRJoe Rogan19:06

       Yeah, you get him.

   29. TDTim Dillon19:06

       You gotta go.

   30. JRJoe Rogan19:07

       Yeah. You better... Uh, look, I understand people that are sitting in a job somewhere, sitting in a cubicle, angry. And they see someone like yourself or like me, or any... And Jamie, I'm sure he gets hate too.
7. 23:16 – 27:39

   Standup crowds in polarized times and the backlash to “woke” entertainment

   1. TDTim Dillon23:16

      I mean, it's tough... You know, you... What we do... And, you know, you're obviously in the, the, the big, big venues now. But like, when... I, I was just in a club this past weekend, and it's like, it's an interesting time in the country to get a bunch of people in a room, pour alcohol all over them-

   2. JRJoe Rogan23:29

      (laughs)

   3. TDTim Dillon23:29

      ... and just let them go.

   4. JRJoe Rogan23:31

      Yes.

   5. TDTim Dillon23:31

      Because, uh, uh, e- no matter what I say, if I say Trump, or if I say... And my act is not political, but I'll, I'll mention things that are going on. There's jokes.

   6. JRJoe Rogan23:38

      Yeah.

   7. TDTim Dillon23:38

      And as soon as I say Trump, some of the crowd will go, "Whoo," and some of them will start booing.

   8. JRJoe Rogan23:43

      Yeah. Wh-

   9. TDTim Dillon23:43

      And I'm like, "Yeah." And I'm like, "Guys, that's not this. I'm just here to make a joke about-"

   10. JRJoe Rogan23:48

       Yeah.

   11. TDTim Dillon23:48

       "... this."

   12. JRJoe Rogan23:48

       Yeah, yeah, yeah.

   13. TDTim Dillon23:49

       "So, this isn't a rally, I'm not taking your temperature, it doesn't matter." And they just... They're hammered, and they're ready to just let you know where they're at.

   14. JRJoe Rogan23:58

       Yeah.

   15. TDTim Dillon23:58

       You know?

   16. JRJoe Rogan23:59

       It's just like a... It's a weird time for discourse.

   17. TDTim Dillon24:02

       Right.

   18. JRJoe Rogan24:02

       It's a weird time for, for people shouting things out too, because people think their opinion's more important than it's ever been before, because of social media.

   19. TDTim Dillon24:08

       Right.

   20. JRJoe Rogan24:09

       People are used to expressing themselves.

   21. TDTim Dillon24:10

       Right. And I mean-

   22. JRJoe Rogan24:11

       (coughs)

   23. TDTim Dillon24:11

       And, and some crowds now, I mean, I think there's just a, uh, you know, some perverse pride in like kind of putting you through it.

   24. JRJoe Rogan24:17

       Yeah, a little bit.

   25. TDTim Dillon24:17

       You know? Where I'll be like, "You guys are animals. You're fucking animals."

   26. JRJoe Rogan24:20

       Yeah, yeah.

   27. TDTim Dillon24:20

       There's a huge applause break.

   28. JRJoe Rogan24:21

       "Yeah, we got you." (clapping)

   29. TDTim Dillon24:23

       You know? I was like, "Where did they hand out tickets to this show? At an urgent care?"

   30. JRJoe Rogan24:26

       (laughs)
8. 27:39 – 31:34

   Fear Factor burnout, extreme stunts, and why Joe regretted returning

   1. JRJoe Rogan27:39

      Like, when I was on, like, season five of Fear Factor, I remember thinking, "I don't know how much longer I can do this."

   2. TDTim Dillon27:45

      What was it about it that was j- ... It was just too much, repetitive?

   3. JRJoe Rogan27:47

      It was the same thing over and over again. We did 148 episodes.

   4. TDTim Dillon27:51

      Right.

   5. JRJoe Rogan27:52

      It was just ... After a while, it was just like, "Jesus Christ, how many animal dicks can you serve people?"

   6. TDTim Dillon27:57

      Right.

   7. JRJoe Rogan27:57

      How many times can you throw them off buildings?

   8. TDTim Dillon27:59

      Yeah. Yeah, it's, "Enough's enough already."

   9. JRJoe Rogan28:01

      (laughs) It was just, um-

   10. TDTim Dillon28:02

       There's no amount of money to get you to come back to do that, or something like that.

   11. JRJoe Rogan28:06

       I did come back in 2011.

   12. TDTim Dillon28:09

       Right.

   13. JRJoe Rogan28:09

       I came back. But I didn't have as ... I didn't have as much money back then, and also it was a lot more money than I got the first time. It was, like, a big deal 'cause they were g- ... Well, I think it was. I don't ... I don't ... I honestly don't remember about the money part. But it was a big deal that I was gonna come back, but I immediately regretted it. Like, immediately. I was like, "Oh my God, I have a job again."

   14. TDTim Dillon28:28

       Yeah.

   15. JRJoe Rogan28:28

       "What the fuck did I do?" But I had ... I was just having children then, you know? Like, uh-

   16. TDTim Dillon28:34

       Yeah, you wanted to-

   17. JRJoe Rogan28:35

       Yeah. My-

   18. TDTim Dillon28:35

       Yeah.

   19. JRJoe Rogan28:35

       ... kids were real young, and I was like, "I need ..." Like, when you have a kid ... (clears throat) I had a older daughter, but I was already paid for most of that. Like, and do you ever think about two children, and you think about two children that are, like, at the time, two and one. You're like, "Oh my God." Like, "This is, um ... This is serious."

   20. TDTim Dillon28:55

       Yeah.

   21. JRJoe Rogan28:55

       Like, you ... I have to make-

   22. TDTim Dillon28:56

       You have 18 years.

   23. JRJoe Rogan28:57

       Yeah.

   24. TDTim Dillon28:57

       Yeah.

   25. JRJoe Rogan28:57

       I have to make-

   26. TDTim Dillon28:58

       Yeah.

   27. JRJoe Rogan28:58

       ... a lot of money. And then I, uh, think, like ... All the money I squirreled away from the original season of Fear Factor, that took care of my family for a long time, and it'll probably be okay. (clears throat) But I felt like this overwhelming responsibility to squirrel away mor- mor- more money.

   28. TDTim Dillon29:10

       More and more money.

   29. JRJoe Rogan29:11

       But then once I started doing it, I was like, "Oh my God, this is a mistake."

   30. TDTim Dillon29:14

       Yeah.
9. 31:34 – 35:19

   Network notes vs real comedy: Food Network casting and the Bourdain problem

   1. TDTim Dillon31:34

      Yeah. I remember I tested for a reality show on Food Network, and they had me on set for about a- an hour, and they were like, "Yeah, this is not ..." I said I said, like, three things into the camera, and they go, "None of this will ever ... This is not gonna work."

   2. JRJoe Rogan31:47

      What did you say? (laughs)

   3. TDTim Dillon31:47

      Well, they were just basically like ... It was called Hotspots, and they're like, "Tell us what you think a hotspot is. What's a real cool hotspot?" And I was just like, "A hotspot is when I try to get into it, the maître d' tells me to kill myself."

   4. JRJoe Rogan31:59

      (laughs)

   5. TDTim Dillon32:00

      And then they go, "Okay, well, let's do the joke again, but let's not say, 'Kill yourself.'" I'm like, "Well, that's the joke, right?" So they're like, "Just maybe say something like, 'When I try to get in, they say no.'" And I'm like, "Y- ... But that's not funny." So then we just tried to work around it a bunch of different ways, and I would just keep saying things. And you could tell they were just getting frustrated. Networks like Food Network love the idea of comedians. They're like, "We love the idea of having a comedian come in to spice it up." And then when they get a real comedian, they're like, "We don't want that." Not the type of comic-

   6. JRJoe Rogan32:28

      Well, they want a ... They want a comedian-

   7. TDTim Dillon32:29

      ... that I am.

   8. JRJoe Rogan32:29

      ... with, like, three tracks.

   9. TDTim Dillon32:30

      Yeah.

   10. JRJoe Rogan32:31

       They want, like-

   11. TDTim Dillon32:31

       Yeah.

   12. JRJoe Rogan32:31

       ... a real down the middle-

   13. TDTim Dillon32:34

       Goofy.

   14. JRJoe Rogan32:34

       ... like, not a lot of lane changing.

   15. TDTim Dillon32:35

       Because I was making fun of, like ... We had all the archetypes of the Food Network pe- ... Like, we had the fat Southern woman-

   16. JRJoe Rogan32:40

       (laughs)

   17. TDTim Dillon32:40

       ... that was supposed to be Paula Deen. And she came in. She's like, "Have you ever had a redneck grilled cheese?" And I said-

   18. JRJoe Rogan32:45

       Ooh.

   19. TDTim Dillon32:45

       ... "This woman's gonna explode on set." And- and I ... 'Cause they said you can be playful with each other. So I said, "This woman's gonna explode on set." And they go, "Well, wait a minute. Hold on." And I'm like, "You said we could be playful." We had the Asian woman who was like ... She just talked about wellness. She was like, "E- ... We just ... I want to be whole, and I want to be one."

   20. JRJoe Rogan33:02

       Mm-hmm.

   21. TDTim Dillon33:02

       "And I want to be wellness." And then y- ... So every-... you know, you had the guy Fieri, like, you know. There's a million chefs that think they're Bourdain, they think they're profound, but in reality, they're just making fucking grilled cheese-

   22. JRJoe Rogan33:13

       Yeah.

   23. TDTim Dillon33:13

       ... and they have tattoos, but other than that... You know, so we had a bunch of those chefs who were like, "I'm hard parting, I've seen it all."

   24. JRJoe Rogan33:19

       (laughs)

   25. TDTim Dillon33:19

       "I've seen it all. I've worked on the line." It's like, "Shut up. You've made gnocchi."

   26. JRJoe Rogan33:23

       Bourdain with, with Kitchen Confidential, he changed what a chef is.

   27. TDTim Dillon33:26

       He changed what a chef is, but most chefs are not that. And, and the reality is, is like, you hear people now that travel around the country and they think that they're like... R- and I love Bour- Bourdain a brilliant chef, but sometimes, Bor- B- Bourdain's show is interesting, because like, he'd be sitting with a family in Turkey and they'd be like, "Well, we haven't seen our daughter in two days, and we don't really know where she is. It's a revolution." And then, they would, th- i- i- it would be like, and then he would, like, they would start talking about hummus. And I'd be like, "Wha- what happened to your daughter? Like, what's going on?"

   28. JRJoe Rogan33:53

       Yeah.

   29. TDTim Dillon33:53

       Like, why are we talking about figs right now?

   30. JRJoe Rogan33:56

       (laughs)
10. 35:19 – 39:48

    Luxury resorts, Mexico security, and the reality behind curated travel

    1. TDTim Dillon35:19

       You know, the one time that you didn't have that, I was on the Impractical Jokers cruise, which they have a cruise, they do a cruise. And they're, they're great guys. And, uh, w- a bunch of comics came on to entertain people that were waiting to see them. People waiting to see them. But we would come on and go, "Hey," and they would, they would think it was them and they'd be like, "Okay, it's this guy." And they were fun audiences and everything. But then the cruise would dock and w- you would go to this little town in Mexico that was like, clearly didn't exist. It was just like, you know-

    2. JRJoe Rogan35:45

       Ghosts.

    3. TDTim Dillon35:45

       Yeah, all these cruise lines had bought, uh, just, a certain amount of beachfront and made it a town.

    4. JRJoe Rogan35:49

       Oh.

    5. TDTim Dillon35:50

       Yeah. A- an- they'd do this. It was called Costa Maya. They, they literally do this. And y- you know, you would walk onto this beach, and then literally, they would like, drive you to the little tourist area, but you would just see people running around with bare feet, roosters. I mean, it was like, you would drive through like, literal and crazy poverty. And you felt horrible because you were just on a boat that had 30 chefs.

    6. JRJoe Rogan36:11

       Right.

    7. TDTim Dillon36:11

       You were just on this disgusting boat with a 24-hour buffet, where people are gorging themselves. And then you go to this island where like, people's bones are protruding out of their bod-... So, it's a w- it's a weird, it's a weird thing when you mix those worlds of like, food, travel, and you know, l- education.

    8. JRJoe Rogan36:26

       That's often how it is though, if you, if you stay in a resort in a country like Mexico.

    9. TDTim Dillon36:31

       Yeah.

    10. JRJoe Rogan36:31

        I was in, uh, Punta Mita-

    11. TDTim Dillon36:32

        Yeah.

    12. JRJoe Rogan36:33

        ... at the Four Seasons. Beautiful resort, man.

    13. TDTim Dillon36:35

        Yeah.

    14. JRJoe Rogan36:35

        It's so pretty. And-

    15. TDTim Dillon36:36

        I've been. K- good job.

    16. JRJoe Rogan36:36

        ... they have, they have these gor- these, uh, golf carts.

    17. TDTim Dillon36:39

        Yeah.

    18. JRJoe Rogan36:39

        And you just r- ride the golf carts around the resort, right?

    19. TDTim Dillon36:41

        Yeah.

    20. JRJoe Rogan36:42

        Well, we decided to take the golf cart off the resort. Say like, "What, what happens if we go down this way?"

    21. TDTim Dillon36:47

        (laughs) So, we talked to the guy at the booth. We said, "Can we go down this way?" He's like, "Um, yeah, I mean, you can." Sure.

    22. JRJoe Rogan36:53

        I'm like, "Okay."

    23. TDTim Dillon36:53

        Yeah.

    24. JRJoe Rogan36:54

        So we go down this way, me and my fucking wife and-

    25. TDTim Dillon36:56

        Yeah.

    26. JRJoe Rogan36:56

        ... our little kids.

    27. TDTim Dillon36:57

        In the golf cart.

    28. JRJoe Rogan36:58

        We drive, yeah. I think the oldest daughter was with us too. And we, we go into the town. And, um, as we're in the town, um, we notice that there's a fucking armored vehicle with like, a tank-

    29. TDTim Dillon37:10

        Jeez.

    30. JRJoe Rogan37:11

        ... with, with metal plate on the front of it, with m- guy with a machine gun, standing on top of the fucking tank. Like, in t- well, like a turret.
11. 39:48 – 43:18

    Media framing, ISIS “content,” and early beheading/conspiracy talk

    1. JRJoe Rogan39:48

       Well, sometimes you read articles that are written and you just go like ... Do you remember when Baghdadi died?

    2. TDTim Dillon39:53

       Yeah.

    3. JRJoe Rogan39:53

       And they, they killed Baghdadi and they, they said, um, there was a, uh, Washington Post called him, "An austere religious scholar."

    4. TDTim Dillon39:59

       That's hilarious.

    5. JRJoe Rogan40:00

       You're like, "Uh, he's the fucking head of ISIS."

    6. TDTim Dillon40:02

       Yeah.

    7. JRJoe Rogan40:02

       "They threw gay people off the roof."

    8. TDTim Dillon40:04

       Right, right.

    9. JRJoe Rogan40:04

       Yeah.

    10. TDTim Dillon40:04

        It's also weird though that we're st-, I don't even, like, when they're like, "We killed Baghdadi." It's like, "Who's Big Daddy again?"

    11. JRJoe Rogan40:10

        Big Daddy (laughs) .

    12. TDTim Dillon40:11

        Big Daddy? Who's this? Who ... What? No one, it's w-

    13. JRJoe Rogan40:16

        You know what it's like? It's like if you're paying attention to like s-, like Division II college school-

    14. TDTim Dillon40:21

        I can't ... Yeah, right.

    15. JRJoe Rogan40:21

        ... baseball players (laughs) .

    16. TDTim Dillon40:22

        Yeah. I can't pay attention. It's like we-

    17. JRJoe Rogan40:25

        There's so many.

    18. TDTim Dillon40:26

        We gotta get ov-, we can't live in the psychic terror of ISIS forever. Remember ISIS? They used to just release a lotta content online. They would saw people's heads off with those rusty things. It looked like they were doing it up the block in a warehouse in Studio City, to be quite honest.

    19. JRJoe Rogan40:40

        Mm-hmm.

    20. TDTim Dillon40:40

        I'm sure they were. I'm sure the CIA wasn't doing that. But it was a little weird, like a- these videos would drop and then everybody would be like riveted and then they would just start beating the war drums again. They'd be like, "It's time to-"

    21. JRJoe Rogan40:50

        Yeah.

    22. TDTim Dillon40:50

        "... we gotta go to war. Look at, look at these people. They're doing horrible things." And then that hasn't happened in a while, so we don't, we're not even thinking about ISIS.

    23. JRJoe Rogan40:57

        Well, there was, uh, one-

    24. TDTim Dillon40:58

        They trot ISIS out-

    25. JRJoe Rogan40:59

        Yeah.

    26. TDTim Dillon41:00

        ... when, when they need s-, like to g-, uh, invest us in something.

    27. JRJoe Rogan41:04

        Well, there's not that many of them realistically anymore.

    28. TDTim Dillon41:06

        Yeah, there's, I, I remember-

    29. JRJoe Rogan41:07

        They're still plotting shit, but, you know, their numbers have been diminished pretty substantially.

    30. TDTim Dillon41:11

        Yeah, I think you've said it on this show and I, I had a guy on my show, this guy John Kiriakou was a CIA guy who said, "Listen, we have decimated Al-Qaeda within a week or two of being in Afghanistan."
12. 43:18 – 1:36:55

    Epstein: intelligence honeytrap theory, guards, Maxwell sightings, and leverage

    1. TDTim Dillon43:18

       I, I think right now with, with what just happened with Epstein-

    2. JRJoe Rogan43:22

       Mm-hmm.

    3. TDTim Dillon43:22

       ... people are ... You can't get away with this stuff anymore.

    4. JRJoe Rogan43:24

       Well, what happened with Epstein, this is what I like about it.

    5. TDTim Dillon43:28

       Yeah.

    6. JRJoe Rogan43:28

       It's, it was so blatant-

    7. TDTim Dillon43:30

       (laughs) So blatant.

    8. JRJoe Rogan43:30

       ... and so outrageous that people go, "Hey, maybe they did fucking kill Kennedy."

    9. TDTim Dillon43:34

       Yeah.

    10. JRJoe Rogan43:34

        Like, yeah. Maybe they did.

    11. TDTim Dillon43:35

        They absolutely did.

    12. JRJoe Rogan43:36

        Maybe they fucking did.

    13. TDTim Dillon43:36

        And I was just doing shows in Fort Worth and I was looking at these audiences and I was going, "They'd kill him again."

    14. JRJoe Rogan43:42

        Yeah.

    15. TDTim Dillon43:42

        "They'll kill him again." Give these people a couple of shots of tequila, another shot goes right through Kennedy's head.

    16. JRJoe Rogan43:47

        Well, if there was another one like Kennedy. Like let's-

    17. TDTim Dillon43:51

        Right.

    18. JRJoe Rogan43:51

        Let's think. If someone took over after Trump and this-

    19. TDTim Dillon43:54

        Yeah.

    20. JRJoe Rogan43:55

        ... guy was trying to get rid of the NSA and get rid of the CIA-

    21. TDTim Dillon43:58

        Yeah.

    22. JRJoe Rogan43:58

        And, and you know, and then there was some sort of a-

    23. TDTim Dillon44:00

        He's going to the mafia and industrialists, yeah.

    24. JRJoe Rogan44:02

        Yes. And there was so-, and the mafia fucking got him into office in the first place.

    25. TDTim Dillon44:05

        100%, yeah.

    26. JRJoe Rogan44:05

        And so they, they were like, "Hey, you fucking piece of shit."

    27. TDTim Dillon44:07

        Yeah.

    28. JRJoe Rogan44:07

        "We're the reason why you're here. We rigged Chicago for you." And so then-

    29. TDTim Dillon44:11

        (coughs) Yeah.

    30. JRJoe Rogan44:11

        ... he has this military blunder at the Bay of Pigs and so then the military's after him, everybody's angry, the Cubans are angry.

Episode duration: 3:07:51