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Joe Rogan Experience #1394 - Matt Farah

Matt Farah is a car enthusiast and the host of “The Smoking Tire” seen on YouTube and also a podcast available on Apple Podcasts.

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Dec 6, 20193h 8mWatch on YouTube ↗

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  1. 0:002:34

    City-bus fabric Porsche: Safari 911 build, LA daily driving, and scooter commuting

    1. JR

      Three, two, one.

    2. MF

      I gotta get a picture of that. (slaps table)

    3. JR

      Matt Farah, ladies and gentlemen.

    4. MF

      Joe Rogan.

    5. JR

      We're going live.

    6. MF

      Are we?

    7. JR

      Dude, the interior of your car is fucking disgusting.

    8. MF

      (laughs)

    9. JR

      And I can't believe you like it.

    10. MF

      It's-

    11. JR

      Why would you do that when you can get any interior? You could make it any color. You decided to do b- what is it? Bus?

    12. MF

      It's city bus fabric.

    13. JR

      City, legitimately?

    14. MF

      It's actual city bus fabric. Yeah, yeah. We got it from the city bus supplier. (laughs)

    15. JR

      Pfft.

    16. MF

      I like-

    17. JR

      I mean, is it just, like, puke-resistant or something?

    18. MF

      a- It's everything resistant, UV-

    19. JR

      Really?

    20. MF

      ... dirt, stain.

    21. JR

      Really?

    22. MF

      Yeah. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I-

    23. JR

      But does it feel good?

    24. MF

      All right. Hi, everybody.

    25. JR

      Hi.

    26. MF

      I have a-

    27. JR

      It's Matt Farah.

    28. MF

      (laughs)

    29. JR

      (laughs)

    30. MF

      I have an old 911. It's called a safari build.

  2. 2:346:20

    Restomodding a Ferrari Dino: modern engine swaps, subtle exterior cues, and real-world value

    1. JR

      But although I did see a really interesting one that this guy built in England, where he took a Dino-

    2. MF

      Oh, yeah.

    3. JR

      ... and he put a 400-plus horsepower-

    4. MF

      Yeah.

    5. JR

      ... modern Ferrari engine in it.

    6. MF

      Yeah.

    7. JR

      And put, like, a clear glass-

    8. MF

      Mm-hmm.

    9. JR

      ... over the engine bay, and, and everything you could take off, and bring the car back to stock, which I found interesting.

    10. MF

      It was almost the sort of Singer-ization of a-

    11. JR

      Yeah.

    12. MF

      ... of a Dino. So a Dino, uh, is one of the prettiest Ferraris ever, right?

    13. JR

      Beautiful car.

    14. MF

      But if you've ever driven one, they sound great, but they're just slow as dog shit.

    15. JR

      Yeah.

    16. MF

      I mean, it's, they're v- v6s. It's f- the smallest engine Ferrari ever made.

    17. JR

      Well, did you know the v- the website for the guy that did it, or the YouTube channel?

    18. MF

      (sighs) I think the guy, I think his name was David Lee and he built it. And it's, I think it-

    19. JR

      See if you can find-

    20. MF

      He claimed it was an F40 engine, which I don't think was entirely accurate, I think.

    21. JR

      He lied?

    22. MF

      I think he exaggerated a little bit.

    23. JR

      He said lied?

    24. MF

      I think, I think it's a, it's an engine from, like, a 360-

    25. JR

      That makes more sense.

    26. MF

      ... that has been modified in certain ways. Um-

    27. JR

      'Cause an F40 has more than 400 horsepower, right?

    28. MF

      Well, it also had turbos, and you just-

    29. JR

      Yeah. Yeah.

    30. MF

      It's not like ... You just wouldn't use an F40 engine for that.

  3. 6:207:03

    Ferrari purism vs. Porsche mod culture: originality, “numbers matching,” and who buys what

    1. JR

      What do you think of the-

    2. MF

      But here's the problem with, with, with doing this with Ferraris though. Ferrari people, even if you did something to the level of Singer, Ferrari people aren't really like that. Ferrari people are originality over everything.

    3. JR

      That's so weird though.

    4. MF

      Yeah.

    5. JR

      I don't understand those folks.

    6. MF

      They don't like m- they don't like modifying the cars.

    7. JR

      Yeah.

    8. MF

      They don't like a car that's previously been modified. It's all about that numbers matching shit.

    9. JR

      (blat) I don't get it.

    10. MF

      You know? It's not, it's not for you.

    11. JR

      No.

    12. MF

      No, it's not really for me either. I love driving the Ferraris but like, I don't align with like-

    13. JR

      That. Yeah.

    14. MF

      ... what the Ferrari fan really values so much. But I'd like to own one soon.

    15. JR

      Yeah?

    16. MF

      Maybe an '80s one.

    17. JR

      What would you like?

    18. MF

      Something a little silly.

    19. JR

      Like a Testarossa?

    20. MF

      I've driven Testarossas, they're fun.

    21. JR

      Yeah?

    22. MF

      But the main-

  4. 7:039:04

    Testarossa maintenance and Enzo Ferrari’s disdain: timing belts, engine-out service, and Lamborghini’s origin story

    1. JR

      Dana White has a Testarossa.

    2. MF

      ... maintenance is crazy. Does he really?

    3. JR

      And he had it completely redone. He's like, "Fuck you-"

    4. MF

      Mm-hmm.

    5. JR

      "... we put a new interior."

    6. MF

      Mm-hmm.

    7. JR

      "And a modern stereo." Everything.

    8. MF

      It's probably nice.

    9. JR

      Now that he does.

    10. MF

      They need a lot of maintenance though, they have ... Testarossas have timing belts. See, timing belts are something that Italians were doing (laughs) for a long time, and the peop- they should, should just never be done again.

    11. JR

      That sounds terrible.

    12. MF

      They wear out and they need to be changed.

    13. JR

      Ugh.

    14. MF

      And in the case of the Testarossa, you're talking about a giant flat 12 engine. They're in the front, so they're up against the firewall behind the seats.

    15. JR

      Oh, God.

    16. MF

      So you have to take off the whole back of the car (laughs) and take the whole engine out of the car to do these timing belts.

    17. JR

      Oh, God.

    18. MF

      Yeah. Starting with, um, the modern stuff, they use chains. (laughs) They brought that into the 21st century and they don't have to fucking fuck with belts anymore.

    19. JR

      Jesus Christ.

    20. MF

      Yeah, but even like Lamborghini at the time, like I have a Countach, which is the best car ever made, and you don't have to do that bullshit, 'cause even Lamborghini used chains. So you don't need to do the engine out.

    21. JR

      Why did Ferrari go with belts?

    22. MF

      I think they thought it was smoother. Ferrar- Enzo Ferrari also had utter contempt for the people who bought his street cars, and I wouldn't be surprised if he did it just so the dealers would make more money on the services, even if he knew it was worse.

    23. JR

      Why did he have so much contempt for the people who bought his cars?

    24. MF

      Enzo Ferrari just wanted to go racing all he ever-

    25. JR

      Really?

    26. MF

      He was an egomaniac and all he ever wanted to do was see his cars win races, and he came to a point where he couldn't make money doing that, and he had to sell street cars to customers, but throughout his entire life, he openly treated those people with disdain. That's how you win, that's the, the story of Lamborghini.

    27. JR

      Oh.

    28. MF

      The story of Lamborghini is Ferruccio Lamborghini had a Ferrari, it was not working for one reason or another. He went to Ferrari to complain about it, Enzo basically told him to go fuck himself-

    29. JR

      (laughs)

    30. MF

      ... and so he said, "I'll build a better car." And that's the story of Lamborghini.

  5. 9:0416:13

    Reliability leaps and the death of the manual: dual-clutch gearboxes, Corvette ZR1, and chasing 0–60 times

    1. MF

      Yes, but so are Ferraris. Uh, around 2010-ish, uh, when the, the, the, uh, the for- 458 came out-

    2. JR

      Mm-hmm.

    3. MF

      ... um, Ferraris took a massive jump in reliability.

    4. JR

      How'd they do that?

    5. MF

      S- first off, the big one is the dual clutch gear- gearbox, which, uh, you know, stick shifts were one thing, right? And then these early single clutch paddle shift gearbox, they'd fry clutches like crazy. People didn't really know how-

    6. JR

      Hmm.

    7. MF

      ... to use 'em right, and they'd ride the clutches out and they would just go through clutches like crazy. The dual clutch cars have much more, uh, like fail-safe type stuff built into them, and they actually work properly.

    8. JR

      But Ferrari used to have that gated shifter-

    9. MF

      Oh, it's the best.

    10. JR

      ... which is one of the coolest things ever.

    11. MF

      The best. Yeah.

    12. JR

      The clinkity clink-

    13. MF

      It's the best.

    14. JR

      ... sliding into gears.

    15. MF

      Yeah. There's nothing more rewarding than like, banging a Ferrari off the rev-I don't when I'm driving it on like a racetrack as fast as it will go.

    16. JR

      Okay.

    17. MF

      Like when I went to test-

    18. JR

      Right.

    19. MF

      ... the, the, the Corvette ZR1, the last front engine one-

    20. JR

      Mm-hmm.

    21. MF

      ... when it went just completely fucking bananas, right?

    22. JR

      Right.

    23. MF

      The 750 horsepower. I went to ROAD Atlanta to drive it, and they had a manual and they had an automatic for me to drive. And I drove the manual, and it was so fucking fast that I did not feel comfortable taking my hand off the wheel-

    24. JR

      Right.

    25. MF

      ... to do the shifts.

    26. JR

      That makes sense.

    27. MF

      And, and I was like, "At this level of performance, I really need to have both my hands on the wheel." And I'm a pretty decent driver.

    28. JR

      Mm-hmm.

    29. MF

      I'm not like shit. I'm not the best, but I'm not shit.

    30. JR

      Right.

  6. 16:1320:58

    EV acceleration reality: Tesla dominance, LA practicality, and the myth of ‘self-driving’

    1. JR

      Well, speaking of which, that Porsche that you... You sent me the video the other day.

    2. MF

      Yeah, the Taycan.

    3. JR

      It's T- Tay- I gotta say it right.

    4. MF

      Taycan.

    5. JR

      Tay-can. Taycan.

    6. MF

      Taycan.

    7. JR

      Taycan.

    8. MF

      Yeah.

    9. JR

      That-

    10. MF

      We're gonna fuck that one up for years. (laughs)

    11. JR

      That thing looks preposterous.

    12. MF

      Yeah.

    13. JR

      'Cause look, I know how preposterous my Tesla is.

    14. MF

      Mm-hmm.

    15. JR

      And I tell everybody when they say, "Oh, you know, you have really fast cars." I'm like, "You see that one right there?"

    16. MF

      Yeah.

    17. JR

      "The one that looks like a dad car?"

    18. MF

      (laughs) Yeah.

    19. JR

      "That's... That one blows all of them away."

    20. MF

      Yeah, and you can drive like a complete-

    21. JR

      Yeah.

    22. MF

      ... piece of shit 'cause it's silent too-

    23. JR

      Oh, God.

    24. MF

      ... and no one notices you. (laughs)

    25. JR

      It's so quiet. You just pass people.

    26. MF

      (laughs) Yeah.

    27. JR

      Like you just whiz by them-

    28. MF

      Yeah.

    29. JR

      ... like nothing happened.

    30. MF

      Yeah. A Tesla is the new BMW in terms of people who are driving like shit bags on the way to work.

  7. 20:5830:37

    Cybertruck skepticism: crash tests, concept vs. production, reservations, hype financing, and questionable demos

    1. JR

      Yeah. Ask me if I'm getting one of those trucks.

    2. MF

      (sighs) Bro, good luck.

    3. JR

      Ask me if I'm getting one of those trucks.

    4. MF

      You getting a truck, Joe?

    5. JR

      Fuck yeah!

    6. MF

      (laughs)

    7. JR

      Why you asking? Of course I'm getting one of them trucks.

    8. MF

      Yeah.

    9. JR

      Look at that thing.

    10. MF

      Yeah.

    11. JR

      You don't like it?

    12. MF

      No. (laughs)

    13. JR

      He don't like it.

    14. MF

      No. He don't.

    15. JR

      No.

    16. MF

      I don't like it and I-

    17. JR

      How dare you?

    18. MF

      I'm not entirely sure it's, it's real.

    19. JR

      Mm, interesting.

    20. MF

      I mean, I think, I, I, I think... (sighs)

    21. JR

      Look at that. Come on.

    22. MF

      I mean, look, I, I-

    23. JR

      Come on.

    24. MF

      My initial reaction to that was, that's not a real thing.

    25. JR

      << Meet George Jetson, << da da da ba dum ba dum >> (laughs)

    26. MF

      And my second reaction is, I'm pretty sure they couldn't build and sell that in America.

    27. JR

      Why?

    28. MF

      Uh, th- because I, I just, I just don't think that that will pass the tests that it needs to pass. And I, and furthermore-

    29. JR

      What kind of tests?

    30. MF

      More, more, like crash tests, pedestrian safety, stuff like that. Furthermore, it's, it's, it's because... (sighs) How do I say this without... It's really hard to talk about Tesla because their fans are fucking crazy.

  8. 30:3734:21

    Deepfakes and the Cybertruck window moment: how internet comedy amplifies tech spectacles

    1. JR

      Do you know who Kyle Donegan is?

    2. MF

      No, who's that?

    3. JR

      One of the funniest guys alive. He's got the best Instagram on the planet, and he does face swaps.

    4. MF

      Uh-huh.

    5. JR

      In his video... You- you- you, now that you know, you didn't know-

    6. MF

      Is it the deep fake guy?

    7. JR

      Now that you know, he does a lot... Well, Dr. Fakenstein did a lot of his-

    8. MF

      Oh, that's the one. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

    9. JR

      ... or the fakening, the fakening.

    10. MF

      The fakening, that's the one. Yeah.

    11. JR

      But look at his newest one. Gi- give me some volume on this, give me some volume on this, and then go to full screen.

    12. NA

      Yeah.

    13. MF

      Oh, my God. How creepy.

    14. NA

      Yeah.

    15. JR

      Yeah. (laughs) Look it.

    16. NA

      Fuck. Fucking shit. (laughs)

    17. (laughs)

    18. MF

      (laughs)

    19. NA

      Oh, great idea, Elon. Do it again.

    20. MF

      (laughs)

    21. NA

      Same window, same ball. This should go differently.

    22. MF

      (laughs)

    23. NA

      Nope. (screams)

    24. (laughs) Oh, fucking shit.

    25. MF

      (laughs)

    26. JR

      (laughs)

    27. NA

      You fool. Now I, Mark Zuckerberg, is officially cooler than you.

    28. No, I'm cooler. I make rockets. That's cool.

    29. Well, I connect the world through Facebook. I'm cooler.

    30. I'm double cooler. Double.

  9. 34:2136:54

    Rezvani oddities and the Taycan pivot: when looks don’t match driving dynamics

    1. JR

      Well, you saw, I'm sure you've seen that Rezvani-

    2. MF

      Oh, my God.

    3. JR

      ... military bulletproof car that releases tacks, electrifies the door handle.

    4. MF

      (coughs)

    5. JR

      You know, I was at the fucking gas station-

    6. MF

      I had a really bad experience with a Rezvani. (laughs)

    7. JR

      I was at the gas station once pumping gas and this fucking Rezvani pulls up. I'm like, "Who is driving that fucking thing?"

    8. MF

      It was a Tyrese.

    9. JR

      And Jamie Foxx jumps out.

    10. MF

      (laughs)

    11. JR

      He goes, "What's up, Joe Rogan?" I was like, "What's up, Jamie?" (laughs)

    12. MF

      (laughs)

    13. JR

      And he goes... Jamie Foxx-

    14. MF

      Oh, is he a spokesman? He's gotta be a spokesman or something, right?

    15. JR

      Um, I think he's friends with the guy who owns it-

    16. MF

      Bro.

    17. JR

      ... and the guy gave it to him or something.

    18. MF

      That's hysterical.

    19. JR

      I don't think he's a spokesman. Jamie's busy.

    20. MF

      I, uh, I met, uh-

    21. JR

      He's busy winning Oscars and making Grammies. He's got no time to be a spokesman for a tank.

    22. MF

      That's hilarious.

    23. JR

      (laughs)

    24. MF

      I drove this company's other car. They have a car called the Beast, the Rezvani Beast.

    25. JR

      Oh, let me see what that looks like.

    26. MF

      I drove it. It, it wasn't good. (laughs)

    27. JR

      Oh, it didn't look-

    28. MF

      No.

    29. JR

      Well, it's based on a Wrangler, right?

    30. MF

      No. Well, the Beat... The Tank is.

  10. 36:5454:07

    Cars are too fast now: Taycan performance, Nürburgring talk, and Porsche’s thermal-management advantage

    1. MF

      We should talk about the Taycan. 'Cause we talked about it for two seconds and got away from it.

    2. JR

      Dude, your video's insane. It looks like you're about to fly off the road and into space.

    3. MF

      It is.

    4. JR

      ... might be a problem.

    5. MF

      So it actually is, I think, I think we're at a point-

    6. JR

      Yeah.

    7. MF

      … really, where cars are actually too fast-

    8. JR

      I think that-

    9. MF

      … just to sell to regular people.

    10. JR

      Well, I think that all the time and I, I made that argument about the ZR1-

    11. MF

      Yeah.

    12. JR

      … because it's so sketchy to drive with the rear-wheel drive.

    13. MF

      Yeah.

    14. JR

      I'm like, "You're selling a 750 horsepower car to someone like me."

    15. MF

      Yeah.

    16. JR

      Who, at least I know how to drive a little bit.

    17. MF

      Dude, you are probably in the top 20% (laughs) of people-

    18. JR

      (laughs) Yeah.

    19. MF

      … in terms of driving a billion dollar car.

    20. JR

      Yeah, I can drive a little.

    21. MF

      Yeah.

    22. JR

      But th- there's a lot of people that get those, they don't know what happens when you stomp on the gas and go sideways.

    23. MF

      No.

    24. JR

      And like that fucking poor guy in Kevin Hart.

    25. MF

      (sighs) .

    26. JR

      There's a l- you know, when I saw that, and I saw the fucking lines on the street-

    27. MF

      Yeah.

    28. JR

      … and then off his j- I'm like, "This guy doesn't know how to drive one of those."

    29. MF

      Yeah, that's a gnarly-

    30. JR

      You can't let someone do that.

  11. 54:0758:48

    Charging, grid limits, and infrastructure: fast-charge reality, 800V architecture, and why LA isn’t ready

    1. JR

      Now, how many miles can it get from fully charged?

    2. MF

      In theory, 300.

    3. JR

      In theory.

    4. MF

      Yeah, yeah, but that's meaning-

    5. JR

      But that's you driving like an old lady.

    6. MF

      So I was able to drive around normally and I found that the range estimate was pretty accurate. I only got the car for one day.

    7. JR

      Hmm.

    8. MF

      So it was pretty accurate. And then I went (laughs) to the canyons, and in that video I burned off 40% of the battery just making that video.

    9. JR

      Really?

    10. MF

      Yeah. T- it would be the same in a Tesla. It, it's not, it, it's-

    11. JR

      That's where it's a real bummer, right?

    12. MF

      When you start driving real fast in EVs, bro-

    13. JR

      Yeah.

    14. MF

      ... uh, you, you're just, you're just smoking through battery. And then you're- (laughs)

    15. JR

      But do you think that with the demand, technology will improve to the point where they can get like real range out-

    16. MF

      (clears throat)

    17. JR

      ... of these things? Like, the theoretical range of the Tesla Roadster was like 600 miles-

    18. MF

      Yeah.

    19. JR

      ... but again, that's never been done. Right?

    20. MF

      I think, (sighs) so r- I'm not an expert on EVs and there's like electrical engineers that'll be screaming, fucking at their i- iPods right now.

    21. JR

      Well, it's normal with those podcasts.

    22. MF

      I, I believe... I know, right? I believe that the k- the, the c- 300-mile range is a good, that's a good amount of range. The key that we will see that will really be a game changer is battery charge times. How, i- c- you know, can we get it charged in five minutes or 10 minutes-

    23. JR

      Hmm.

    24. MF

      ... and not 30 minutes or an hour?

    25. JR

      Right.

    26. MF

      Uh, and the, the number of stations, the opportunity to charge.

    27. JR

      And that's an issue with, uh, the Porsche over the Tesla is they don't have the supercharging network, right?

    28. MF

      Correct, although they are using the Electrify America network, which is actually-

    29. JR

      Where's that?

    30. MF

      ... it's another one of the networks that's meant for like-

  12. 58:481:18:34

    Building Westside Collector Car Storage: earthquake/fire code, vertical stacking, and city bureaucracy

    1. MF

      My building is the f- only collector... This is, sorry, Westside Collector Car Storage, my new business. It is the-

    2. JR

      And it's open for reservations currently, right?

    3. MF

      Yes, we'll be open in January. We're a little bit behind, but it, construction's hard as it turns out. Um, it's the f- it's the first, eh, time that we've ever put indoor quad stackers in Southern California. We have four high vehicle stackers. We have 18 of them.

    4. JR

      What are you doing about earthquakes? You got rubber everywhere?

    5. MF

      The buil- we're, 2019 code, dude.

    6. JR

      Yeah?

    7. MF

      Dude, we have, we have more concrete and rebar... I mean, this, we're up to a, we're good for a 12-0 earthquake.

    8. JR

      Ooh.

    9. MF

      That's what we're rated at. That's the 2020 standard.

    10. JR

      I want a house like that.

    11. MF

      It's... (blows raspberry) Bro, we poured-

    12. JR

      I want a 12-0 house.

    13. MF

      ... I poured 110 cement trucks.

    14. JR

      Wouldn't that be great if the world's on fire and you're sitting there sipping tea?

    15. MF

      Dude, well, s- you know what, speaking of that-

    16. JR

      Drinking a sip.

    17. MF

      ... so the wall d- the dividing wall in between the car storage area and the members' lounge, my office and my studio, is legally required to be a two-hour firewall. So you can sit there and have a tea and watch a fire on the other side for two hours and then just walk out the front door.

    18. JR

      Really?

    19. MF

      Yeah. That's a law for t- for Cal- for LA for 2019.

    20. JR

      Wow.

    21. MF

      We had to have the fire code written for us. It sucked. (laughs)

    22. JR

      That seems pretty cool though, that they're doing that. That they're making these standards extremely high.

    23. MF

      I believe that it's good to have high standards.

    24. JR

      Yeah.

    25. MF

      And that you can get e- you know, you, but you end up with a higher quality product and you can then charge more for it, you know, and that's sort of how it works, but...

    26. JR

      That's a big leap for you, to just jump in and build some crazy car storage building.

    27. MF

      (laughs) Yeah, I'd never done shit like that before.

    28. JR

      Like what... Did you think about the like, the amount of money that must cost is fucking extraordinary.

    29. MF

      I'll tell you off mic, but it's-

    30. JR

      Tell me. Yeah.

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