The Joe Rogan ExperienceJoe Rogan Experience #1394 - Matt Farah
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150 min read · 30,035 words- 0:00 – 2:34
City-bus fabric Porsche: Safari 911 build, LA daily driving, and scooter commuting
- JRJoe Rogan
Three, two, one.
- MFMatt Farah
I gotta get a picture of that. (slaps table)
- JRJoe Rogan
Matt Farah, ladies and gentlemen.
- MFMatt Farah
Joe Rogan.
- JRJoe Rogan
We're going live.
- MFMatt Farah
Are we?
- JRJoe Rogan
Dude, the interior of your car is fucking disgusting.
- MFMatt Farah
(laughs)
- JRJoe Rogan
And I can't believe you like it.
- MFMatt Farah
It's-
- JRJoe Rogan
Why would you do that when you can get any interior? You could make it any color. You decided to do b- what is it? Bus?
- MFMatt Farah
It's city bus fabric.
- JRJoe Rogan
City, legitimately?
- MFMatt Farah
It's actual city bus fabric. Yeah, yeah. We got it from the city bus supplier. (laughs)
- JRJoe Rogan
Pfft.
- MFMatt Farah
I like-
- JRJoe Rogan
I mean, is it just, like, puke-resistant or something?
- MFMatt Farah
a- It's everything resistant, UV-
- JRJoe Rogan
Really?
- MFMatt Farah
... dirt, stain.
- JRJoe Rogan
Really?
- MFMatt Farah
Yeah. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I-
- JRJoe Rogan
But does it feel good?
- MFMatt Farah
All right. Hi, everybody.
- JRJoe Rogan
Hi.
- MFMatt Farah
I have a-
- JRJoe Rogan
It's Matt Farah.
- MFMatt Farah
(laughs)
- JRJoe Rogan
(laughs)
- MFMatt Farah
I have an old 911. It's called a safari build.
- 2:34 – 6:20
Restomodding a Ferrari Dino: modern engine swaps, subtle exterior cues, and real-world value
- JRJoe Rogan
But although I did see a really interesting one that this guy built in England, where he took a Dino-
- MFMatt Farah
Oh, yeah.
- JRJoe Rogan
... and he put a 400-plus horsepower-
- MFMatt Farah
Yeah.
- JRJoe Rogan
... modern Ferrari engine in it.
- MFMatt Farah
Yeah.
- JRJoe Rogan
And put, like, a clear glass-
- MFMatt Farah
Mm-hmm.
- JRJoe Rogan
... over the engine bay, and, and everything you could take off, and bring the car back to stock, which I found interesting.
- MFMatt Farah
It was almost the sort of Singer-ization of a-
- JRJoe Rogan
Yeah.
- MFMatt Farah
... of a Dino. So a Dino, uh, is one of the prettiest Ferraris ever, right?
- JRJoe Rogan
Beautiful car.
- MFMatt Farah
But if you've ever driven one, they sound great, but they're just slow as dog shit.
- JRJoe Rogan
Yeah.
- MFMatt Farah
I mean, it's, they're v- v6s. It's f- the smallest engine Ferrari ever made.
- JRJoe Rogan
Well, did you know the v- the website for the guy that did it, or the YouTube channel?
- MFMatt Farah
(sighs) I think the guy, I think his name was David Lee and he built it. And it's, I think it-
- JRJoe Rogan
See if you can find-
- MFMatt Farah
He claimed it was an F40 engine, which I don't think was entirely accurate, I think.
- JRJoe Rogan
He lied?
- MFMatt Farah
I think he exaggerated a little bit.
- JRJoe Rogan
He said lied?
- MFMatt Farah
I think, I think it's a, it's an engine from, like, a 360-
- JRJoe Rogan
That makes more sense.
- MFMatt Farah
... that has been modified in certain ways. Um-
- JRJoe Rogan
'Cause an F40 has more than 400 horsepower, right?
- MFMatt Farah
Well, it also had turbos, and you just-
- JRJoe Rogan
Yeah. Yeah.
- MFMatt Farah
It's not like ... You just wouldn't use an F40 engine for that.
- 6:20 – 7:03
Ferrari purism vs. Porsche mod culture: originality, “numbers matching,” and who buys what
- JRJoe Rogan
What do you think of the-
- MFMatt Farah
But here's the problem with, with, with doing this with Ferraris though. Ferrari people, even if you did something to the level of Singer, Ferrari people aren't really like that. Ferrari people are originality over everything.
- JRJoe Rogan
That's so weird though.
- MFMatt Farah
Yeah.
- JRJoe Rogan
I don't understand those folks.
- MFMatt Farah
They don't like m- they don't like modifying the cars.
- JRJoe Rogan
Yeah.
- MFMatt Farah
They don't like a car that's previously been modified. It's all about that numbers matching shit.
- JRJoe Rogan
(blat) I don't get it.
- MFMatt Farah
You know? It's not, it's not for you.
- JRJoe Rogan
No.
- MFMatt Farah
No, it's not really for me either. I love driving the Ferraris but like, I don't align with like-
- JRJoe Rogan
That. Yeah.
- MFMatt Farah
... what the Ferrari fan really values so much. But I'd like to own one soon.
- JRJoe Rogan
Yeah?
- MFMatt Farah
Maybe an '80s one.
- JRJoe Rogan
What would you like?
- MFMatt Farah
Something a little silly.
- JRJoe Rogan
Like a Testarossa?
- MFMatt Farah
I've driven Testarossas, they're fun.
- JRJoe Rogan
Yeah?
- MFMatt Farah
But the main-
- 7:03 – 9:04
Testarossa maintenance and Enzo Ferrari’s disdain: timing belts, engine-out service, and Lamborghini’s origin story
- JRJoe Rogan
Dana White has a Testarossa.
- MFMatt Farah
... maintenance is crazy. Does he really?
- JRJoe Rogan
And he had it completely redone. He's like, "Fuck you-"
- MFMatt Farah
Mm-hmm.
- JRJoe Rogan
"... we put a new interior."
- MFMatt Farah
Mm-hmm.
- JRJoe Rogan
"And a modern stereo." Everything.
- MFMatt Farah
It's probably nice.
- JRJoe Rogan
Now that he does.
- MFMatt Farah
They need a lot of maintenance though, they have ... Testarossas have timing belts. See, timing belts are something that Italians were doing (laughs) for a long time, and the peop- they should, should just never be done again.
- JRJoe Rogan
That sounds terrible.
- MFMatt Farah
They wear out and they need to be changed.
- JRJoe Rogan
Ugh.
- MFMatt Farah
And in the case of the Testarossa, you're talking about a giant flat 12 engine. They're in the front, so they're up against the firewall behind the seats.
- JRJoe Rogan
Oh, God.
- MFMatt Farah
So you have to take off the whole back of the car (laughs) and take the whole engine out of the car to do these timing belts.
- JRJoe Rogan
Oh, God.
- MFMatt Farah
Yeah. Starting with, um, the modern stuff, they use chains. (laughs) They brought that into the 21st century and they don't have to fucking fuck with belts anymore.
- JRJoe Rogan
Jesus Christ.
- MFMatt Farah
Yeah, but even like Lamborghini at the time, like I have a Countach, which is the best car ever made, and you don't have to do that bullshit, 'cause even Lamborghini used chains. So you don't need to do the engine out.
- JRJoe Rogan
Why did Ferrari go with belts?
- MFMatt Farah
I think they thought it was smoother. Ferrar- Enzo Ferrari also had utter contempt for the people who bought his street cars, and I wouldn't be surprised if he did it just so the dealers would make more money on the services, even if he knew it was worse.
- JRJoe Rogan
Why did he have so much contempt for the people who bought his cars?
- MFMatt Farah
Enzo Ferrari just wanted to go racing all he ever-
- JRJoe Rogan
Really?
- MFMatt Farah
He was an egomaniac and all he ever wanted to do was see his cars win races, and he came to a point where he couldn't make money doing that, and he had to sell street cars to customers, but throughout his entire life, he openly treated those people with disdain. That's how you win, that's the, the story of Lamborghini.
- JRJoe Rogan
Oh.
- MFMatt Farah
The story of Lamborghini is Ferruccio Lamborghini had a Ferrari, it was not working for one reason or another. He went to Ferrari to complain about it, Enzo basically told him to go fuck himself-
- JRJoe Rogan
(laughs)
- MFMatt Farah
... and so he said, "I'll build a better car." And that's the story of Lamborghini.
- 9:04 – 16:13
Reliability leaps and the death of the manual: dual-clutch gearboxes, Corvette ZR1, and chasing 0–60 times
- MFMatt Farah
Yes, but so are Ferraris. Uh, around 2010-ish, uh, when the, the, the, uh, the for- 458 came out-
- JRJoe Rogan
Mm-hmm.
- MFMatt Farah
... um, Ferraris took a massive jump in reliability.
- JRJoe Rogan
How'd they do that?
- MFMatt Farah
S- first off, the big one is the dual clutch gear- gearbox, which, uh, you know, stick shifts were one thing, right? And then these early single clutch paddle shift gearbox, they'd fry clutches like crazy. People didn't really know how-
- JRJoe Rogan
Hmm.
- MFMatt Farah
... to use 'em right, and they'd ride the clutches out and they would just go through clutches like crazy. The dual clutch cars have much more, uh, like fail-safe type stuff built into them, and they actually work properly.
- JRJoe Rogan
But Ferrari used to have that gated shifter-
- MFMatt Farah
Oh, it's the best.
- JRJoe Rogan
... which is one of the coolest things ever.
- MFMatt Farah
The best. Yeah.
- JRJoe Rogan
The clinkity clink-
- MFMatt Farah
It's the best.
- JRJoe Rogan
... sliding into gears.
- MFMatt Farah
Yeah. There's nothing more rewarding than like, banging a Ferrari off the rev-I don't when I'm driving it on like a racetrack as fast as it will go.
- JRJoe Rogan
Okay.
- MFMatt Farah
Like when I went to test-
- JRJoe Rogan
Right.
- MFMatt Farah
... the, the, the Corvette ZR1, the last front engine one-
- JRJoe Rogan
Mm-hmm.
- MFMatt Farah
... when it went just completely fucking bananas, right?
- JRJoe Rogan
Right.
- MFMatt Farah
The 750 horsepower. I went to ROAD Atlanta to drive it, and they had a manual and they had an automatic for me to drive. And I drove the manual, and it was so fucking fast that I did not feel comfortable taking my hand off the wheel-
- JRJoe Rogan
Right.
- MFMatt Farah
... to do the shifts.
- JRJoe Rogan
That makes sense.
- MFMatt Farah
And, and I was like, "At this level of performance, I really need to have both my hands on the wheel." And I'm a pretty decent driver.
- JRJoe Rogan
Mm-hmm.
- MFMatt Farah
I'm not like shit. I'm not the best, but I'm not shit.
- JRJoe Rogan
Right.
- 16:13 – 20:58
EV acceleration reality: Tesla dominance, LA practicality, and the myth of ‘self-driving’
- JRJoe Rogan
Well, speaking of which, that Porsche that you... You sent me the video the other day.
- MFMatt Farah
Yeah, the Taycan.
- JRJoe Rogan
It's T- Tay- I gotta say it right.
- MFMatt Farah
Taycan.
- JRJoe Rogan
Tay-can. Taycan.
- MFMatt Farah
Taycan.
- JRJoe Rogan
Taycan.
- MFMatt Farah
Yeah.
- JRJoe Rogan
That-
- MFMatt Farah
We're gonna fuck that one up for years. (laughs)
- JRJoe Rogan
That thing looks preposterous.
- MFMatt Farah
Yeah.
- JRJoe Rogan
'Cause look, I know how preposterous my Tesla is.
- MFMatt Farah
Mm-hmm.
- JRJoe Rogan
And I tell everybody when they say, "Oh, you know, you have really fast cars." I'm like, "You see that one right there?"
- MFMatt Farah
Yeah.
- JRJoe Rogan
"The one that looks like a dad car?"
- MFMatt Farah
(laughs) Yeah.
- JRJoe Rogan
"That's... That one blows all of them away."
- MFMatt Farah
Yeah, and you can drive like a complete-
- JRJoe Rogan
Yeah.
- MFMatt Farah
... piece of shit 'cause it's silent too-
- JRJoe Rogan
Oh, God.
- MFMatt Farah
... and no one notices you. (laughs)
- JRJoe Rogan
It's so quiet. You just pass people.
- MFMatt Farah
(laughs) Yeah.
- JRJoe Rogan
Like you just whiz by them-
- MFMatt Farah
Yeah.
- JRJoe Rogan
... like nothing happened.
- MFMatt Farah
Yeah. A Tesla is the new BMW in terms of people who are driving like shit bags on the way to work.
- 20:58 – 30:37
Cybertruck skepticism: crash tests, concept vs. production, reservations, hype financing, and questionable demos
- JRJoe Rogan
Yeah. Ask me if I'm getting one of those trucks.
- MFMatt Farah
(sighs) Bro, good luck.
- JRJoe Rogan
Ask me if I'm getting one of those trucks.
- MFMatt Farah
You getting a truck, Joe?
- JRJoe Rogan
Fuck yeah!
- MFMatt Farah
(laughs)
- JRJoe Rogan
Why you asking? Of course I'm getting one of them trucks.
- MFMatt Farah
Yeah.
- JRJoe Rogan
Look at that thing.
- MFMatt Farah
Yeah.
- JRJoe Rogan
You don't like it?
- MFMatt Farah
No. (laughs)
- JRJoe Rogan
He don't like it.
- MFMatt Farah
No. He don't.
- JRJoe Rogan
No.
- MFMatt Farah
I don't like it and I-
- JRJoe Rogan
How dare you?
- MFMatt Farah
I'm not entirely sure it's, it's real.
- JRJoe Rogan
Mm, interesting.
- MFMatt Farah
I mean, I think, I, I, I think... (sighs)
- JRJoe Rogan
Look at that. Come on.
- MFMatt Farah
I mean, look, I, I-
- JRJoe Rogan
Come on.
- MFMatt Farah
My initial reaction to that was, that's not a real thing.
- JRJoe Rogan
<< Meet George Jetson, << da da da ba dum ba dum >> (laughs)
- MFMatt Farah
And my second reaction is, I'm pretty sure they couldn't build and sell that in America.
- JRJoe Rogan
Why?
- MFMatt Farah
Uh, th- because I, I just, I just don't think that that will pass the tests that it needs to pass. And I, and furthermore-
- JRJoe Rogan
What kind of tests?
- MFMatt Farah
More, more, like crash tests, pedestrian safety, stuff like that. Furthermore, it's, it's, it's because... (sighs) How do I say this without... It's really hard to talk about Tesla because their fans are fucking crazy.
- 30:37 – 34:21
Deepfakes and the Cybertruck window moment: how internet comedy amplifies tech spectacles
- JRJoe Rogan
Do you know who Kyle Donegan is?
- MFMatt Farah
No, who's that?
- JRJoe Rogan
One of the funniest guys alive. He's got the best Instagram on the planet, and he does face swaps.
- MFMatt Farah
Uh-huh.
- JRJoe Rogan
In his video... You- you- you, now that you know, you didn't know-
- MFMatt Farah
Is it the deep fake guy?
- JRJoe Rogan
Now that you know, he does a lot... Well, Dr. Fakenstein did a lot of his-
- MFMatt Farah
Oh, that's the one. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
- JRJoe Rogan
... or the fakening, the fakening.
- MFMatt Farah
The fakening, that's the one. Yeah.
- JRJoe Rogan
But look at his newest one. Gi- give me some volume on this, give me some volume on this, and then go to full screen.
- NANarrator
Yeah.
- MFMatt Farah
Oh, my God. How creepy.
- NANarrator
Yeah.
- JRJoe Rogan
Yeah. (laughs) Look it.
- NANarrator
Fuck. Fucking shit. (laughs)
(laughs)
- MFMatt Farah
(laughs)
- NANarrator
Oh, great idea, Elon. Do it again.
- MFMatt Farah
(laughs)
- NANarrator
Same window, same ball. This should go differently.
- MFMatt Farah
(laughs)
- NANarrator
Nope. (screams)
(laughs) Oh, fucking shit.
- MFMatt Farah
(laughs)
- JRJoe Rogan
(laughs)
- NANarrator
You fool. Now I, Mark Zuckerberg, is officially cooler than you.
No, I'm cooler. I make rockets. That's cool.
Well, I connect the world through Facebook. I'm cooler.
I'm double cooler. Double.
- 34:21 – 36:54
Rezvani oddities and the Taycan pivot: when looks don’t match driving dynamics
- JRJoe Rogan
Well, you saw, I'm sure you've seen that Rezvani-
- MFMatt Farah
Oh, my God.
- JRJoe Rogan
... military bulletproof car that releases tacks, electrifies the door handle.
- MFMatt Farah
(coughs)
- JRJoe Rogan
You know, I was at the fucking gas station-
- MFMatt Farah
I had a really bad experience with a Rezvani. (laughs)
- JRJoe Rogan
I was at the gas station once pumping gas and this fucking Rezvani pulls up. I'm like, "Who is driving that fucking thing?"
- MFMatt Farah
It was a Tyrese.
- JRJoe Rogan
And Jamie Foxx jumps out.
- MFMatt Farah
(laughs)
- JRJoe Rogan
He goes, "What's up, Joe Rogan?" I was like, "What's up, Jamie?" (laughs)
- MFMatt Farah
(laughs)
- JRJoe Rogan
And he goes... Jamie Foxx-
- MFMatt Farah
Oh, is he a spokesman? He's gotta be a spokesman or something, right?
- JRJoe Rogan
Um, I think he's friends with the guy who owns it-
- MFMatt Farah
Bro.
- JRJoe Rogan
... and the guy gave it to him or something.
- MFMatt Farah
That's hysterical.
- JRJoe Rogan
I don't think he's a spokesman. Jamie's busy.
- MFMatt Farah
I, uh, I met, uh-
- JRJoe Rogan
He's busy winning Oscars and making Grammies. He's got no time to be a spokesman for a tank.
- MFMatt Farah
That's hilarious.
- JRJoe Rogan
(laughs)
- MFMatt Farah
I drove this company's other car. They have a car called the Beast, the Rezvani Beast.
- JRJoe Rogan
Oh, let me see what that looks like.
- MFMatt Farah
I drove it. It, it wasn't good. (laughs)
- JRJoe Rogan
Oh, it didn't look-
- MFMatt Farah
No.
- JRJoe Rogan
Well, it's based on a Wrangler, right?
- MFMatt Farah
No. Well, the Beat... The Tank is.
- 36:54 – 54:07
Cars are too fast now: Taycan performance, Nürburgring talk, and Porsche’s thermal-management advantage
- MFMatt Farah
We should talk about the Taycan. 'Cause we talked about it for two seconds and got away from it.
- JRJoe Rogan
Dude, your video's insane. It looks like you're about to fly off the road and into space.
- MFMatt Farah
It is.
- JRJoe Rogan
... might be a problem.
- MFMatt Farah
So it actually is, I think, I think we're at a point-
- JRJoe Rogan
Yeah.
- MFMatt Farah
… really, where cars are actually too fast-
- JRJoe Rogan
I think that-
- MFMatt Farah
… just to sell to regular people.
- JRJoe Rogan
Well, I think that all the time and I, I made that argument about the ZR1-
- MFMatt Farah
Yeah.
- JRJoe Rogan
… because it's so sketchy to drive with the rear-wheel drive.
- MFMatt Farah
Yeah.
- JRJoe Rogan
I'm like, "You're selling a 750 horsepower car to someone like me."
- MFMatt Farah
Yeah.
- JRJoe Rogan
Who, at least I know how to drive a little bit.
- MFMatt Farah
Dude, you are probably in the top 20% (laughs) of people-
- JRJoe Rogan
(laughs) Yeah.
- MFMatt Farah
… in terms of driving a billion dollar car.
- JRJoe Rogan
Yeah, I can drive a little.
- MFMatt Farah
Yeah.
- JRJoe Rogan
But th- there's a lot of people that get those, they don't know what happens when you stomp on the gas and go sideways.
- MFMatt Farah
No.
- JRJoe Rogan
And like that fucking poor guy in Kevin Hart.
- MFMatt Farah
(sighs) .
- JRJoe Rogan
There's a l- you know, when I saw that, and I saw the fucking lines on the street-
- MFMatt Farah
Yeah.
- JRJoe Rogan
… and then off his j- I'm like, "This guy doesn't know how to drive one of those."
- MFMatt Farah
Yeah, that's a gnarly-
- JRJoe Rogan
You can't let someone do that.
- 54:07 – 58:48
Charging, grid limits, and infrastructure: fast-charge reality, 800V architecture, and why LA isn’t ready
- JRJoe Rogan
Now, how many miles can it get from fully charged?
- MFMatt Farah
In theory, 300.
- JRJoe Rogan
In theory.
- MFMatt Farah
Yeah, yeah, but that's meaning-
- JRJoe Rogan
But that's you driving like an old lady.
- MFMatt Farah
So I was able to drive around normally and I found that the range estimate was pretty accurate. I only got the car for one day.
- JRJoe Rogan
Hmm.
- MFMatt Farah
So it was pretty accurate. And then I went (laughs) to the canyons, and in that video I burned off 40% of the battery just making that video.
- JRJoe Rogan
Really?
- MFMatt Farah
Yeah. T- it would be the same in a Tesla. It, it's not, it, it's-
- JRJoe Rogan
That's where it's a real bummer, right?
- MFMatt Farah
When you start driving real fast in EVs, bro-
- JRJoe Rogan
Yeah.
- MFMatt Farah
... uh, you, you're just, you're just smoking through battery. And then you're- (laughs)
- JRJoe Rogan
But do you think that with the demand, technology will improve to the point where they can get like real range out-
- MFMatt Farah
(clears throat)
- JRJoe Rogan
... of these things? Like, the theoretical range of the Tesla Roadster was like 600 miles-
- MFMatt Farah
Yeah.
- JRJoe Rogan
... but again, that's never been done. Right?
- MFMatt Farah
I think, (sighs) so r- I'm not an expert on EVs and there's like electrical engineers that'll be screaming, fucking at their i- iPods right now.
- JRJoe Rogan
Well, it's normal with those podcasts.
- MFMatt Farah
I, I believe... I know, right? I believe that the k- the, the c- 300-mile range is a good, that's a good amount of range. The key that we will see that will really be a game changer is battery charge times. How, i- c- you know, can we get it charged in five minutes or 10 minutes-
- JRJoe Rogan
Hmm.
- MFMatt Farah
... and not 30 minutes or an hour?
- JRJoe Rogan
Right.
- MFMatt Farah
Uh, and the, the number of stations, the opportunity to charge.
- JRJoe Rogan
And that's an issue with, uh, the Porsche over the Tesla is they don't have the supercharging network, right?
- MFMatt Farah
Correct, although they are using the Electrify America network, which is actually-
- JRJoe Rogan
Where's that?
- MFMatt Farah
... it's another one of the networks that's meant for like-
- 58:48 – 1:18:34
Building Westside Collector Car Storage: earthquake/fire code, vertical stacking, and city bureaucracy
- MFMatt Farah
My building is the f- only collector... This is, sorry, Westside Collector Car Storage, my new business. It is the-
- JRJoe Rogan
And it's open for reservations currently, right?
- MFMatt Farah
Yes, we'll be open in January. We're a little bit behind, but it, construction's hard as it turns out. Um, it's the f- it's the first, eh, time that we've ever put indoor quad stackers in Southern California. We have four high vehicle stackers. We have 18 of them.
- JRJoe Rogan
What are you doing about earthquakes? You got rubber everywhere?
- MFMatt Farah
The buil- we're, 2019 code, dude.
- JRJoe Rogan
Yeah?
- MFMatt Farah
Dude, we have, we have more concrete and rebar... I mean, this, we're up to a, we're good for a 12-0 earthquake.
- JRJoe Rogan
Ooh.
- MFMatt Farah
That's what we're rated at. That's the 2020 standard.
- JRJoe Rogan
I want a house like that.
- MFMatt Farah
It's... (blows raspberry) Bro, we poured-
- JRJoe Rogan
I want a 12-0 house.
- MFMatt Farah
... I poured 110 cement trucks.
- JRJoe Rogan
Wouldn't that be great if the world's on fire and you're sitting there sipping tea?
- MFMatt Farah
Dude, well, s- you know what, speaking of that-
- JRJoe Rogan
Drinking a sip.
- MFMatt Farah
... so the wall d- the dividing wall in between the car storage area and the members' lounge, my office and my studio, is legally required to be a two-hour firewall. So you can sit there and have a tea and watch a fire on the other side for two hours and then just walk out the front door.
- JRJoe Rogan
Really?
- MFMatt Farah
Yeah. That's a law for t- for Cal- for LA for 2019.
- JRJoe Rogan
Wow.
- MFMatt Farah
We had to have the fire code written for us. It sucked. (laughs)
- JRJoe Rogan
That seems pretty cool though, that they're doing that. That they're making these standards extremely high.
- MFMatt Farah
I believe that it's good to have high standards.
- JRJoe Rogan
Yeah.
- MFMatt Farah
And that you can get e- you know, you, but you end up with a higher quality product and you can then charge more for it, you know, and that's sort of how it works, but...
- JRJoe Rogan
That's a big leap for you, to just jump in and build some crazy car storage building.
- MFMatt Farah
(laughs) Yeah, I'd never done shit like that before.
- JRJoe Rogan
Like what... Did you think about the like, the amount of money that must cost is fucking extraordinary.
- MFMatt Farah
I'll tell you off mic, but it's-
- JRJoe Rogan
Tell me. Yeah.
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