The Joe Rogan ExperienceJoe Rogan Experience #1398 - Lil Duval
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Meeting Lil Duval, social media authenticity, and the UFC connection
- JRJoe Rogan
(singing) Boom, I'm rolling. What's going on, man? How are you?
- LDLil Duval
(laughs)
- JRJoe Rogan
Good to see you.
- LDLil Duval
What's up, man?
- JRJoe Rogan
Pleasure, pleasure.
- LDLil Duval
Pleasure to meet you, man.
- JRJoe Rogan
I, I enjoy your social media, man. Your Instagram is one of my favorite, for sure.
- LDLil Duval
I appreciate it, man. Just doing me.
- JRJoe Rogan
Yeah. You're doing you, but you're doing it correctly. It's a lot of fun. You're a fun guy. Like, your shit is fun, you know?
- LDLil Duval
I just try to be genuine with it. That's all ... That's ... 'Cause that's all I've been on there from day one, and that's what got me this far, and it's been working, so why not?
- JRJoe Rogan
Yeah, man. You know, I found out about you... Well, I found out a b- about you from two people. One, from my friend Andrew Schulz.
- LDLil Duval
Yeah, that's my nigga.
- JRJoe Rogan
We both know him.
- LDLil Duval
Yeah.
- JRJoe Rogan
I love that dude.
- LDLil Duval
Yeah. (laughs)
- JRJoe Rogan
Uh, he speaks very highly of you. But two, because my friend Style Bender.
- LDLil Duval
Yeah.
- JRJoe Rogan
He's the UFC middle weight champion. He played your song on one of his walk-outs-
- LDLil Duval
Yeah.
- JRJoe Rogan
... for one of his fights.
- LDLil Duval
I didn't even know, I didn't even know him, honestly, until, um... It's just, like, a lot of stuff I d- really don't be knowing. I n- I'm out the loop of the mainstream stuff. So, if I'm not ... If I can't ... Especially something like, like UFC, I'm still new to that. I'm still learning it. So, when he t- ... So, when, um ... I think Andrew or Charlamagne the one told me, and then Instagram told me too, and when I looked at it, I was like, "Oh, shit. This shit is big." Like Smile, because this one ... He did it while, like, while Smile Bitch was still bubbling.
- JRJoe Rogan
Mm-hmm.
- LDLil Duval
So, he was one of the people that I kind of realized, oh, nah, this shit going to a whole another level.
- JRJoe Rogan
(laughs) Well-
- LDLil Duval
Just by him doing that. And I appreciate him doing that too, 'cause he showing me love.
- JRJoe Rogan
He's huge now. He's huge now.
- LDLil Duval
Yeah.
- JRJoe Rogan
He's the champ now.
- LDLil Duval
So-
- 1:43 – 3:17
Getting used to violence in sports, travel as therapy, and “pre-retired” mindset
- LDLil Duval
You want me to tell you what, what it is? I'm, um, I was ... I didn't like to see the, the actual nigga getting his ass whooped. Like, like, I don't wanna keep seeing him get punched, punched, punched.
- JRJoe Rogan
While they're down, you mean?
- LDLil Duval
Yeah.
- JRJoe Rogan
Yeah.
- LDLil Duval
I guess 'cause I ... The environment you come from, I, I try to get away from that type of shit.
- JRJoe Rogan
Mm-hmm.
- LDLil Duval
And so to see it ... Like, I, I don't even watch videos like that, seeing somebody get shot in the head. And I'm just starting to get comfortable with watching fights.
- JRJoe Rogan
Hmm. I know what you're saying.
- LDLil Duval
So, so, so with that ... But now I ki- I, I wanna go to a UFC fight now just because now I, I guess my body done got, or my mind done got desensitized to where it don't bother me as much.
- JRJoe Rogan
Well, anytime you wanna go, let me know.
- LDLil Duval
For sure.
- JRJoe Rogan
There's a big one this weekend.
- LDLil Duval
Where? Where at?
- JRJoe Rogan
Vegas.
- LDLil Duval
Shit, I might come fuck with you.
- JRJoe Rogan
Come on down.
- LDLil Duval
(laughs) Hold on, let me think. I don't wanna say ... I gotta think, do I got something to do?
- JRJoe Rogan
There's at least two titles, right?
- LDLil Duval
Oh, shit.
- JRJoe Rogan
There's three? Three titles?
- LDLil Duval
I can't go. I'm going to, um-
- JRJoe Rogan
Oh.
- LDLil Duval
... Honduras. I forgot. Shit. (laughs)
- JRJoe Rogan
Oh, shit. How do you for- how do you forget you're going to Honduras? (laughs)
- LDLil Duval
(laughs) I c- I don't know, I just be doing shit.
- JRJoe Rogan
What are you-
- LDLil Duval
I do shit whenever I get a chance to now, as far as traveling.
- JRJoe Rogan
Just for fun?
- LDLil Duval
Yeah, just for fun. Just for chill. I ... That's my way of ... My, my, my me time, my space time, to, to, to gather my thoughts and do my thing.
- JRJoe Rogan
Hmm.
- 3:17 – 6:41
Aging, mortality, and why death isn’t ‘weird’
- JRJoe Rogan
I'm 52, so 60's around the corner for me.
- LDLil Duval
Nigga, 50 ... I'm just realizing ... 'Cause I remember when I was a kid, and I used to be like, "Man, man, I wanna g- I wanna give my life to God and all that, but I ain't gonna have no fun. I'm gonna wait till I get about 50."
- JRJoe Rogan
(laughs)
- LDLil Duval
And then, here come 50, about to pull up. Like, "Shit." So, now, I mean, but ... I don't know. 50 is a cool n- cool age, and I, and I'm just, and I'm just started preparing for when, when I can't take care of myself.
- JRJoe Rogan
Well, what it all is, is that we know it ends, and we don't know when. We don't know if it's 100, we don't know if it's 80. We know it ends.
- LDLil Duval
We don't know.
- JRJoe Rogan
So, you hear 40 and you go, "Ooh, how close? How close am I? What should I do?"
- LDLil Duval
I know it's about time to wrap up. I done-
- JRJoe Rogan
(laughs)
- LDLil Duval
... went half the century. Like, what's the average? 100 at the most?
- JRJoe Rogan
(laughs) Yeah.
- LDLil Duval
So, I'm like, "All right. I, I know this shit finna end pretty soon some type of way."
- JRJoe Rogan
Yeah.
- LDLil Duval
"So, let me prepare." And then I look at ... Uh, I watch old people a lot, so I pay attention to them. So, I see what they going through, and I'm like, "All right, it's my turn pretty soon."
- JRJoe Rogan
I had, uh, John Witherspoon in, uh, earlier in the year.
- LDLil Duval
Mm-hmm.
- JRJoe Rogan
With his, uh, son-
- LDLil Duval
He had the little one.
- JRJoe Rogan
... JD. Yeah.
- LDLil Duval
Let me do it.
- JRJoe Rogan
Here it is. Sorry. And, uh, he died shortly after. He died like a couple of months later.
- LDLil Duval
Mm-hmm.
- JRJoe Rogan
And, uh, I've known that guy for a long time. And I remember thinking, like, "He was just here. He was, like, happy."
- LDLil Duval
(inhales)
- JRJoe Rogan
"He had all this energy. He was hilarious." And then, a couple months later, the lights shut off.
- LDLil Duval
That's life, man.
- JRJoe Rogan
That's life. Yeah.
- LDLil Duval
That's life.
- JRJoe Rogan
That's life.
- LDLil Duval
Tha- that quick, just like that.
- 6:41 – 10:44
Safari footage, travel photography, and staying healthy abroad (McDonald’s debate)
- JRJoe Rogan
You said you saw a cat's hunt on a safari?
- LDLil Duval
Yeah.
- JRJoe Rogan
What was that like?
- LDLil Duval
I got it on my phone.
- JRJoe Rogan
Oh, shit.
- LDLil Duval
(laughs)
- JRJoe Rogan
Did you see him get one?
- LDLil Duval
Uh-uh. That... You gotta sit there for a minute and I didn't have no weed or nothing to sit there.
- JRJoe Rogan
(laughs)
- LDLil Duval
(laughs)
- JRJoe Rogan
(laughs)
- LDLil Duval
Yeah. And then, uh, uh-
- JRJoe Rogan
Where were you?
- LDLil Duval
In, uh... Where was that at? Tanza- Tanzania. Tanzania. I posted it on my Instagram.
- JRJoe Rogan
Oh, wow.
- LDLil Duval
I try to share shit like this here 'cause where I'm from, we never seen no shit like that. But it was dope as fuck. It was, it was way more interesting than I thought it was gonna be. It's like really watching, like being in the hood and watching a fight or watching somebody get-
- JRJoe Rogan
(laughs)
- LDLil Duval
... get shot.
- JRJoe Rogan
Oh, wow. Okay, it's about to load up.
- LDLil Duval
Yeah, I gotta load up. Give it a second 'cause it's an old iCloud. It's on the iCloud. Give it a second unless y'all got wifi.
- JRJoe Rogan
We got it.
- LDLil Duval
I got Cricket, you know I'm on that rich broke lifestyle.
- JRJoe Rogan
(laughs)
- LDLil Duval
(laughs) But, uh, but yeah, it was dope as fuck, man. Like, just being out there. I take, I took a lot of pictures and shit. I got, like, an Instagram page where I used to post, post dope pics from when I traveled and shit.
- JRJoe Rogan
Did they make you take, uh, um, malaria medication?
- LDLil Duval
I never took nothing at nowhere I went.
- JRJoe Rogan
Really?
- LDLil Duval
And, and I'm glad I didn't 'cause I heard people that do take them shots and stuff, they get sick.
- JRJoe Rogan
Real sick.
- LDLil Duval
Yeah.
- 10:44 – 14:34
Mukbang, population talk, and immigration as a ‘messy’ problem
- JRJoe Rogan
My kids explained this to me. I didn't know about this. It's called, uh, mukbang.
- LDLil Duval
What's that?
- JRJoe Rogan
It's, uh, a style of, uh, video- Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. ... that they do in Korea where Korea, like, I, I guess they're proper and polite when they eat that's, you know, they have good manners. They try to do that culturally.
- LDLil Duval
Mm-hmm.
- JRJoe Rogan
So, uh, they have these videos that are real popular where they just eat like slobs. They'll eat like an octopus and they're like (chewing noises) and they have, they just splatter food all over their face and make a lot of noises while they chew. And these videos are insanely popular. Millions and millions of views of people watching someone eat.
- LDLil Duval
That's 'cause it's... Well, you can't go by their... Our view of millions in their view ain't that much 'cause you gotta think it's billions of them.
- JRJoe Rogan
(laughs)
- LDLil Duval
So, I mean...
- JRJoe Rogan
It's true.
- LDLil Duval
It ain't shit. (laughs)
- JRJoe Rogan
That's, that's true. But there's not billions of Koreans, but I guess it's worldwide.
- LDLil Duval
It's a, it's wi- It's a lot of them.
- JRJoe Rogan
How many Koreans are there?
- LDLil Duval
Just Google it.
- JRJoe Rogan
It's a small country, relatively.
- LDLil Duval
Hey, Siri, how many, um-
- JRJoe Rogan
(laughs)
- LDLil Duval
... how many Koreans are there out here?
- JVJamie Vernon
I'm Siri, your virtual assistant.
- JRJoe Rogan
Oh, he's a guy. American.
- LDLil Duval
How many Koreans population out here?
- JRJoe Rogan
(laughs)
- LDLil Duval
I don't know that. Uh...
- JVJamie Vernon
I found this on the web.
- LDLil Duval
It don't... Let me just do the paper, w- write, ty- type it the old fashioned way.
- JRJoe Rogan
I'm gonna guess. Population of Korea, 50 million.
- LDLil Duval
50 million?
- JRJoe Rogan
What'd I guess? 51.47. Oh.
- LDLil Duval
51.47?
- JRJoe Rogan
Yeah. They-
- 14:34 – 17:49
Brain scans, memory reliability, and the iCloud-as-brain idea
- LDLil Duval
Well, nowadays with technology, they could just put something in you-
- JRJoe Rogan
Scan you.
- LDLil Duval
... and scan you and figure it out.
- JRJoe Rogan
Yeah. Find out your thoughts.
- LDLil Duval
Yeah.
- JRJoe Rogan
Put you on an fMRI, read your brain.
- LDLil Duval
Yeah. But then you gotta figure out, what would they be looking for to see if they can let you in? Like...
- JRJoe Rogan
They convicted a lady in India from a brain scan of murder. There was a, they used a fMRI and they said that through this machine, they were able to detect functional knowledge of the murder.
- LDLil Duval
Ain't that's Minority Report associated?
- JRJoe Rogan
Yeah.
- LDLil Duval
That's that movie, ain't it?
- JRJoe Rogan
I don't think they're r- I don't think it's real though. I think they just didn't understand the science.
- LDLil Duval
If they, if they m- wrote something about it, it can happen or it's gonna happen.
- JRJoe Rogan
Oh, it's gonna happen. I definitely think it's gonna happen. But I think that where they're at right now, if, if this person really did get convicted, I don't think they really understand the science. I think they're just convicting them because someone said it makes sense. And then there's not enough people that actually understand what, how little you actually can read. Like, she could have had-
- LDLil Duval
Uh-huh.
- JRJoe Rogan
She could have been told about the scene.
- LDLil Duval
Right.
- JRJoe Rogan
And then developed a functional memory.
- LDLil Duval
Oh, yeah, yeah. Yeah.
- JRJoe Rogan
'Cause you're just, you're reading something in the brain-
- LDLil Duval
'Cause I think this-
- JRJoe Rogan
... that's not clearly defined yet.
- LDLil Duval
It's just like if you told me something, I'd be like, "Well, somebody told me..." After a while, if you keep re- replaying it in your head, you think you told yourself.
- JRJoe Rogan
Yes. Yes. You think maybe it was your story and it was somebody else's story. That shit happens to people.
- LDLil Duval
Yeah.
- JRJoe Rogan
Especially like minor shit from like 20 years ago. And then your friend's like, "I told you that."
- LDLil Duval
Yeah, yeah.
- JRJoe Rogan
And then you're like, "Oh, yeah."
- LDLil Duval
Shit, last week. Last week. Like, "Remember I told... Oh yeah, I told you that." Shit.
- JRJoe Rogan
(laughs)
- 17:49 – 24:33
Space fantasies: Mars trips, the Moon’s atmosphere, and proving the Earth is round
- LDLil Duval
I do it out of boredom. Like I'm, I'm damn near wanna, wanna go to Mars and all that shit.
- JRJoe Rogan
(laughs)
- LDLil Duval
You know? But I just don't wanna be the only nigga up there.
- JRJoe Rogan
(laughs)
- LDLil Duval
(laughs)
- JRJoe Rogan
Mars is too long, though.
- LDLil Duval
Yeah.
- JRJoe Rogan
That's six months. Six months in a spaceship.
- LDLil Duval
Yeah, I know that. I thought about that. I don't wanna be there six months-
- JRJoe Rogan
(sighs)
- LDLil Duval
... unless it's a party on that goddamn ship.
- JRJoe Rogan
(laughs) Even if there is.
- LDLil Duval
That shit gotta be lit.
- JRJoe Rogan
Bro, think about that.
- LDLil Duval
Think about this. What if the earth was moving there now and we on the party bus now?
- JRJoe Rogan
Right. We are in the party bus now.
- LDLil Duval
We in the party bus and there's a-
- JRJoe Rogan
And there's a spaceship.
- LDLil Duval
They don't tell us nothing and then when we get there, they be like, "All right, we here."
- JRJoe Rogan
Yeah, because if you think about it, Earth is like a spaceship, with, like a convertible spaceship. There's just no roof.
- LDLil Duval
Hell yeah.
- JRJoe Rogan
Yeah. I mean, there's, the only thing that save us is the atmosphere.
- LDLil Duval
That's real, though.
- JRJoe Rogan
Yeah.
- LDLil Duval
That's hard.
- JRJoe Rogan
Yeah.
- LDLil Duval
I want, I, damn.
- JRJoe Rogan
How much would a spaceship be different? It'd be like a apartment complex versus a whole city.
- LDLil Duval
Heh, honestly, they, they could be doing it. That's what he should be, that's what them motherfucking billionaires should be trying to do, move this goddamn Earth out the way, just push it-
- JRJoe Rogan
(laughs)
- 24:33 – 30:58
Religion, social media as the new ‘Bible,’ and how communication evolves
- LDLil Duval
You have to keep, you have ... I mean, in religion, and I do believe in religion, but in religion, you have to keep 'em in a certain space to keep their mind focused on that right there, 'cause otherwise they ... So, you can't tell everybody everything.
- JRJoe Rogan
No.
- LDLil Duval
'Cause then they'll go crazy.
- JRJoe Rogan
That's true.
- LDLil Duval
That's why, that's why I believe in religion. I really do, for normal people.
- JRJoe Rogan
(laughs)
- LDLil Duval
(laughs) And shit.
- JRJoe Rogan
I know what you're saying. It gives people help. It gives people hope.
- LDLil Duval
It ... Anything that's going to bring you to love and peace-
- JRJoe Rogan
Mm-hmm.
- LDLil Duval
... you can't be mad at it.
- JRJoe Rogan
Right, yeah.
- LDLil Duval
You know? So.
- JRJoe Rogan
I feel like it's, it's like something that helps evolution, almost like a, a vehicle for aiding evolution to take us out of our barbarian days into our civilized days, and then transcend.
- LDLil Duval
But this is religion-
- JRJoe Rogan
It helps.
- LDLil Duval
... what we're doing right here.
- JRJoe Rogan
You think so?
- LDLil Duval
I know so, 'cause it's, we're, we're conveying and talking and, and p- preaching pretty much. (laughs)
- JRJoe Rogan
Hmm.
- LDLil Duval
This is, I mean, this is our evolution of ... I believe where we're at, we're at the evolution of entertainment and conversation is like our Bible.
- JRJoe Rogan
Hmm.
- LDLil Duval
And that's what we're doing with social media and ... I tweet my shit like that. Like, I tweeted thinking like 100 years from now, somebody gonna read this shit like we read hieroglyphics.
- JRJoe Rogan
Oh, okay. So, I see what you're saying. So it's our all, all of our way of talking shit out and figuring things out.
- LDLil Duval
Yeah.
- JRJoe Rogan
The same how religion was, and that's why they established these parameters, these rules, and-
- LDLil Duval
Yes, because you understand, all right, if you d- go this way, this is what's gonna happen.
- JRJoe Rogan
Yeah.
- LDLil Duval
So I got to tell them this so they ... It's like a child. You're not gonna tell 'em all the truth, because if you tell 'em, they ain't ready for it. And that's what religion is. It's like, all right, I ain't gonna tell him that, that God was r- I mean, that Jesus was really a regular person, because if you do, ain't nobody gonna trust no regular person. I gotta make this motherfucker am- amazing.
- JRJoe Rogan
(laughs)
- 30:58 – 34:12
Hong Kong protests, guns, and technology making rules harder to enforce
- JRJoe Rogan
You see that shit that's goin' on in Hong Kong?
- LDLil Duval
Uh-uh, what happened?
- JRJoe Rogan
See the protests?
- LDLil Duval
No, I ain't see it.
- JRJoe Rogan
They've been protesting in Hong Kong for how long now? Months.
- LDLil Duval
For what?
- JRJoe Rogan
For months. Well, their, their government is changing. They, they used to be under British rule, now they're under Chinese rule and, uh, that happened, I think, in the '90s and th- there was a... Was it in the '90s? Whatever it was, it was, there's a, there was a, there's a lotta issues with, uh, the Chinese government running them the way they run China. And the people from Hong Kong want it to be back the way it used to be when it was run by Britain. And they're extraditing people, they're doin', they're doin' things where... And then the protests have been violent, the cops have been shootin' people. It's, like, a lot of crazy shit?
- LDLil Duval
(laughs)
- JRJoe Rogan
And then there's a lot of video of this and the, the streets are filled, I mean just filled with people protesting every day and it's, it's... I mean, it's not something that comes up too much in the news. How often do you hear about this in the news.
- LDLil Duval
What can we do about it though?
- JRJoe Rogan
It's a good question. We just watch it play out, just like we do with the, uh-
- LDLil Duval
Yeah, just like-
- JRJoe Rogan
... with everything else, with Vegas and-
- LDLil Duval
That's why I don't get too much into that type of shit 'cause if I can't change it, it's like what the fuck I'ma do? (laughs) One thing I could do is change what I think the future gonna be. That shit there is some shit that was planned 50 years ago.
- JRJoe Rogan
That's true, yeah, you can't change it, but it's also true that it's fascinating.
- LDLil Duval
Is it?
- JRJoe Rogan
Yeah, to me it is. It's 'cause I'm watching, uh-
- LDLil Duval
I just think it's just-
- JRJoe Rogan
... someone try to o- or a group of people with no power try to overcome, uh, a tyrannical government.
- LDLil Duval
That's happened before in, in other, in other countries. You know, it's happened plenty of times and some won, some lost. It's just you gotta figure out what... If you're tryin' to make it not happen to us, we gotta figure out why it happened like this-
- JRJoe Rogan
Yeah.
- LDLil Duval
... and try not to, to make that happen over here for our butterfly effect.
- JRJoe Rogan
Yeah, well that's one of the reasons why a lotta gun advocates are very happy that this, not very happy that this is happening, but happy to use it as an example of what happens when you have an unarmed population and an armed military that, sort of, tells it what to do and there's nothin' you can do but, but get in the streets.
- LDLil Duval
Well, I, I believe in gun law, I just don't see the point of, like, 'cause at the end, I don't... Like, if you put the... Who, who not, who not gonna get a gun now if you make it illegal?
- JRJoe Rogan
Right.
- LDLil Duval
The people that should (laughs) get one.
- JRJoe Rogan
Exactly, people who don't care about the law.
- LDLil Duval
The people that don't get 'em, they gon' get it... We can get illegal guns anyway. Not me.
- JRJoe Rogan
No.
- LDLil Duval
Yeah, not me. But I mean, (laughs) you can get illegal guns anyway, but the people, the, the people, the law-abiding citizens, you make that law, now it's, they can't get one.
- 34:12 – 40:29
Weed, sensitivity culture, and why comedy tides are turning
- JRJoe Rogan
You, uh, you didn't smart, start smoking weed till four years ago?
- LDLil Duval
Yeah.
- JRJoe Rogan
That's crazy.
- LDLil Duval
I never smoked, I never drank. I mean, I drunk every blue moon, like on my birthday, but I don't drink. I hate liquor. Hate the way it tastes.
- JRJoe Rogan
So what happened?
- LDLil Duval
With smoking?
- JRJoe Rogan
Yeah.
- LDLil Duval
Um, well, well, when I was younger everybody did it, so that was one of the reasons I didn't wanna do it 'cause everybody was on drugs and all that. My daddy used to do crack and all that, so I was, I was against drugs. So as I grew up I just never gave a fuck about it as much as everybody else did. But I used to love the way it smell.
- JRJoe Rogan
(laughs)
- LDLil Duval
You know, like, I loved the way it smelled so I used to be in the room just smelling the shit. And then after a while, then once I got to a point in my life where I was like, "I can't fall off," (laughs) like, "This is the worst my life gonna get," it was like, "All right, I tried," and then that was the best thing that ever happened to me, (laughs) trying that shit.
- JRJoe Rogan
Wh- when you tried it, were you like, "What the fuck was I thinking?"
- LDLil Duval
Yeah, I should've been doing this shit.
- JRJoe Rogan
Yes, all along.
- LDLil Duval
Yeah, 'cause when I first did it, I didn't get high 'cause, like, I tried to get the soft shit, I was scared. Like, I was like, "All right, it's gonna do something." And then I was like, "This shit ain't doin' shit." I out-smoked everybody that was with us, you know? I was just smoking, smoking, smoking and then, then once I started really getting into it, I was like, "This shit is really what's up." Like...
- JRJoe Rogan
What are the laws down in Atlanta?
- LDLil Duval
I don't know. (laughs)
- JRJoe Rogan
(laughs)
- JVJamie Vernon
(laughs)
- LDLil Duval
Shit. Don't, don't a nigga know the law?
- JRJoe Rogan
(laughs)
- JVJamie Vernon
(laughs)
- LDLil Duval
(laughs) Know... I don't know.
- JRJoe Rogan
Oh, it's just so stupid that it's illegal anywhere.
- LDLil Duval
Everything is stupid, man. All this shit's da... Just make all drugs legal.
- JRJoe Rogan
Well, it's the only thing that's gonna stop the cartels.
- LDLil Duval
I don't know what this shit I just smoked, but that shit good as hell.
- JRJoe Rogan
Yeah, that's Kevin Smith's shit. That's, uh, what does he call it, Jamie? Do you know?
- LDLil Duval
Jay and Bob.
- JVJamie Vernon
They all have different little names on 'em, I think.
- LDLil Duval
That shit has some what's name on it?
- 40:29 – 46:55
Scuba diving revelations, tectonic plates, and nature’s reminders (hurricanes & volcanoes)
- JRJoe Rogan
How long you been scuba diving?
- LDLil Duval
About 10 years now.
- JRJoe Rogan
Yeah?
- LDLil Duval
About 10 years. And this ... That's where I learned about life through scuba diving.
- JRJoe Rogan
Yeah?
- LDLil Duval
Scuba diving let me know I didn't know shit. (laughs)
- JRJoe Rogan
How, how deep do you go down?
- LDLil Duval
How ... The deepest I've been, like 130. (gasps) But there ain't nothing down there.
- JRJoe Rogan
(laughs)
- LDLil Duval
(laughs) When you get to that point, there ain't nothing living down there. Only thing you might see is shipwrecks and shit like that, but-
- JRJoe Rogan
That's so fucking deep.
- LDLil Duval
Yeah, it is.
- JRJoe Rogan
130. This is you? There you go. Yeah, it's from his page. From his page. Oh, so he-
- LDLil Duval
Oh, that's from-
- JRJoe Rogan
... went down there and take pictures?
- LDLil Duval
Yeah, that's-
- JRJoe Rogan
Can he bring an iPhone down there or no?
- LDLil Duval
That's in Iceland.
- JRJoe Rogan
(laughs)
- LDLil Duval
Nah, not that deep. That was the ta- the tectonic plates.
- JRJoe Rogan
Hmm.
- LDLil Duval
Where you could touch ... The, the only place on Earth where you can touch-
- JRJoe Rogan
(sighs)
- LDLil Duval
... North America and, um, Europe.
- JRJoe Rogan
Oh my God. What if it ground right while you're there?
- LDLil Duval
And, and honestly, you can't ... I don't even think you could do it no more, 'cause they said, "Shh." It spreads, um, a centimeter every year or some shit.
- JRJoe Rogan
Oh.
- LDLil Duval
So it's s- separating apart.
- JRJoe Rogan
Like Pangea, right? You know the theory of Pangea?
- LDLil Duval
Uh-uh. Uh-uh.
- 46:55 – 1:13:13
Survival skills, island living, sensory deprivation, and breaking phone addiction
- LDLil Duval
That's what I'm saying. They ain't ready for it. They, Bahamians, they understand how to live and keep m- c- and bring it back. Americans don't even know how to do nothing. Only people that'll be all right probably is the Amish.
- JRJoe Rogan
Hm.
- LDLil Duval
Like, if technology-
- JRJoe Rogan
Oh, you mean if it starts from scratch? Yeah.
- LDLil Duval
If you start from scratch again.
- JRJoe Rogan
Yeah.
- LDLil Duval
We'd be fucked, man. Like we don't know what to do. Like, my daughter's, I had, I got a old school like a '75 Caprice. Or d- was it my '72? My '72 Caprice. I let my daughter in my car. She didn't know what this was.
- JRJoe Rogan
Rolling down the window?
- LDLil Duval
Rolling down the window.
- JRJoe Rogan
(laughs)
- LDLil Duval
Like, motherfuckers wouldn't know what to do. Motherfu- Like, matter of fact, funny, Andrew, I was trying to get directions here 'cause my shit was fucking up. It was so weird. He'd give me directions by voice. "All right. You're going to see a light. You're going to turn left. You're go-" The old school way. Like-
- JRJoe Rogan
Oh, no.
- LDLil Duval
We don't even know how to use those little simple things. Like, we don't know east, west, north, south.
- JRJoe Rogan
When I first used to get gigs, I used to get, uh, a notepad and they would call me up on the phone. They go, "Okay, here's the directions. You're gonna take the this to the that. You're gonna take that for six miles."
- LDLil Duval
Mm-hmm.
- JRJoe Rogan
And that's how you got to every gig. You would go dire- and you would write the direction down on a piece of paper. And I would have like a folder-
- LDLil Duval
Yeah.
- JRJoe Rogan
... for all the different times that I went to these places. I would just keep-
- LDLil Duval
That's one of the reasons why I be on, get, why I live on the island a lot is to keep my mind on some regular shit. Like, my mind is if I don't need it on this island, I don't really need it.
- JRJoe Rogan
Yeah.
- LDLil Duval
So I learned how to... So if worst case scenario happen, I can still survive.
- JRJoe Rogan
So if you get stuck on the island, the rest of the world falls apart.
- LDLil Duval
Oh, if the, if the rest of the world falls apart, I can still survive like a Amish motherfucker, you know.
- JRJoe Rogan
Yeah.
- LDLil Duval
Not saying I know how to cook, like, like kill animals and shit like that, 'cause I ain't good at that yet. I still want to learn how to get-... how to clean a deer. I wanna learn how to do that type of shit. But, but for the most part, I can get some fish. I know how to fish. (laughs)
- JRJoe Rogan
Yeah. Well, in the Bahamas, that's all you're gonna need anyway, right?
- LDLil Duval
Yeah. And chicken.
- JRJoe Rogan
Chicken. Chicken and fish.
- LDLil Duval
Chicken and fish.
- JRJoe Rogan
And, uh, you can probably have chickens just run around out there. There's no predators, right?
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