Joe Rogan Experience #1398 - Lil Duval

Lil Duval is a stand-up comedian and recording artist.

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0:00 – 1:43
Meeting Lil Duval: social media authenticity and the ‘Smile Bitch’ moment
1. JRJoe Rogan
  (singing) Boom, I'm rolling. What's going on, man? How are you?
2. LDLil Duval
  (laughs)
3. JRJoe Rogan
  Good to see you.
4. LDLil Duval
  What's up, man?
5. JRJoe Rogan
  Pleasure, pleasure.
6. LDLil Duval
  Pleasure to meet you, man.
7. JRJoe Rogan
  I, I enjoy your social media, man. Your Instagram is one of my favorite, for sure.
8. LDLil Duval
  I appreciate it, man. Just doing me.
9. JRJoe Rogan
  Yeah. You're doing you, but you're doing it correctly. It's a lot of fun. You're a fun guy. Like, your shit is fun, you know?
10. LDLil Duval
  I just try to be genuine with it. That's all ... That's ... 'Cause that's all I've been on there from day one, and that's what got me this far, and it's been working, so why not?
11. JRJoe Rogan
  Yeah, man. You know, I found out about you... Well, I found out a b- about you from two people. One, from my friend Andrew Schulz.
12. LDLil Duval
  Yeah, that's my nigga.
13. JRJoe Rogan
  We both know him.
14. LDLil Duval
  Yeah.
15. JRJoe Rogan
  I love that dude.
16. LDLil Duval
  Yeah. (laughs)
17. JRJoe Rogan
  Uh, he speaks very highly of you. But two, because my friend Style Bender.
18. LDLil Duval
  Yeah.
19. JRJoe Rogan
  He's the UFC middle weight champion. He played your song on one of his walk-outs-
20. LDLil Duval
  Yeah.
21. JRJoe Rogan
  ... for one of his fights.
22. LDLil Duval
  I didn't even know, I didn't even know him, honestly, until, um... It's just, like, a lot of stuff I d- really don't be knowing. I n- I'm out the loop of the mainstream stuff. So, if I'm not ... If I can't ... Especially something like, like UFC, I'm still new to that. I'm still learning it. So, when he t- ... So, when, um ... I think Andrew or Charlamagne the one told me, and then Instagram told me too, and when I looked at it, I was like, "Oh, shit. This shit is big." Like Smile, because this one ... He did it while, like, while Smile Bitch was still bubbling.
23. JRJoe Rogan
  Mm-hmm.
24. LDLil Duval
  So, he was one of the people that I kind of realized, oh, nah, this shit going to a whole another level.
25. JRJoe Rogan
  (laughs) Well-
26. LDLil Duval
  Just by him doing that. And I appreciate him doing that too, 'cause he showing me love.
27. JRJoe Rogan
  He's huge now. He's huge now.
28. LDLil Duval
  Yeah.
29. JRJoe Rogan
  He's the champ now.
30. LDLil Duval
  So-
1:43 – 3:01
Getting into UFC (and discomfort with violence), then pivoting to travel as “me time”
1. LDLil Duval
  You want me to tell you what, what it is? I'm, um, I was ... I didn't like to see the, the actual nigga getting his ass whooped. Like, like, I don't wanna keep seeing him get punched, punched, punched.
2. JRJoe Rogan
  While they're down, you mean?
3. LDLil Duval
  Yeah.
4. JRJoe Rogan
  Yeah.
5. LDLil Duval
  I guess 'cause I ... The environment you come from, I, I try to get away from that type of shit.
6. JRJoe Rogan
  Mm-hmm.
7. LDLil Duval
  And so to see it ... Like, I, I don't even watch videos like that, seeing somebody get shot in the head. And I'm just starting to get comfortable with watching fights.
8. JRJoe Rogan
  Hmm. I know what you're saying.
9. LDLil Duval
  So, so, so with that ... But now I ki- I, I wanna go to a UFC fight now just because now I, I guess my body done got, or my mind done got desensitized to where it don't bother me as much.
10. JRJoe Rogan
  Well, anytime you wanna go, let me know.
11. LDLil Duval
  For sure.
12. JRJoe Rogan
  There's a big one this weekend.
13. LDLil Duval
  Where? Where at?
14. JRJoe Rogan
  Vegas.
15. LDLil Duval
  Shit, I might come fuck with you.
16. JRJoe Rogan
  Come on down.
17. LDLil Duval
  (laughs) Hold on, let me think. I don't wanna say ... I gotta think, do I got something to do?
18. JRJoe Rogan
  There's at least two titles, right?
19. LDLil Duval
  Oh, shit.
20. JRJoe Rogan
  There's three? Three titles?
21. LDLil Duval
  I can't go. I'm going to, um-
22. JRJoe Rogan
  Oh.
23. LDLil Duval
  ... Honduras. I forgot. Shit. (laughs)
24. JRJoe Rogan
  Oh, shit. How do you for- how do you forget you're going to Honduras? (laughs)
25. LDLil Duval
  (laughs) I c- I don't know, I just be doing shit.
26. JRJoe Rogan
  What are you-
27. LDLil Duval
  I do shit whenever I get a chance to now, as far as traveling.
28. JRJoe Rogan
  Just for fun?
29. LDLil Duval
  Yeah, just for fun. Just for chill. I ... That's my way of ... My, my, my me time, my space time, to, to, to gather my thoughts and do my thing.
30. JRJoe Rogan
  Hmm.
3:01 – 6:06
Aging, mortality, and making peace with death
1. LDLil Duval
  That's kind of where I'm at mentally in everything. I just ... I'm kind of pre-retired in my mind.
2. JRJoe Rogan
  Really?
3. LDLil Duval
  To prepare myself for when, when shit slow down. I think you should do that. Uh, I think I sh- ... Well, me for 40. When you're about 40, you need to prepare for 60. I always try to prepare for later.
4. JRJoe Rogan
  I'm 52, so 60's around the corner for me.
5. LDLil Duval
  Nigga, 50 ... I'm just realizing ... 'Cause I remember when I was a kid, and I used to be like, "Man, man, I wanna g- I wanna give my life to God and all that, but I ain't gonna have no fun. I'm gonna wait till I get about 50."
6. JRJoe Rogan
  (laughs)
7. LDLil Duval
  And then, here come 50, about to pull up. Like, "Shit." So, now, I mean, but ... I don't know. 50 is a cool n- cool age, and I, and I'm just, and I'm just started preparing for when, when I can't take care of myself.
8. JRJoe Rogan
  Well, what it all is, is that we know it ends, and we don't know when. We don't know if it's 100, we don't know if it's 80. We know it ends.
9. LDLil Duval
  We don't know.
10. JRJoe Rogan
  So, you hear 40 and you go, "Ooh, how close? How close am I? What should I do?"
11. LDLil Duval
  I know it's about time to wrap up. I done-
12. JRJoe Rogan
  (laughs)
13. LDLil Duval
  ... went half the century. Like, what's the average? 100 at the most?
14. JRJoe Rogan
  (laughs) Yeah.
15. LDLil Duval
  So, I'm like, "All right. I, I know this shit finna end pretty soon some type of way."
16. JRJoe Rogan
  Yeah.
17. LDLil Duval
  "So, let me prepare." And then I look at ... Uh, I watch old people a lot, so I pay attention to them. So, I see what they going through, and I'm like, "All right, it's my turn pretty soon."
18. JRJoe Rogan
  I had, uh, John Witherspoon in, uh, earlier in the year.
19. LDLil Duval
  Mm-hmm.
20. JRJoe Rogan
  With his, uh, son-
21. LDLil Duval
  He had the little one.
22. JRJoe Rogan
  ... JD. Yeah.
23. LDLil Duval
  Let me do it.
24. JRJoe Rogan
  Here it is. Sorry. And, uh, he died shortly after. He died like a couple of months later.
25. LDLil Duval
  Mm-hmm.
26. JRJoe Rogan
  And, uh, I've known that guy for a long time. And I remember thinking, like, "He was just here. He was, like, happy."
27. LDLil Duval
  (inhales)
28. JRJoe Rogan
  "He had all this energy. He was hilarious." And then, a couple months later, the lights shut off.
29. LDLil Duval
  That's life, man.
30. JRJoe Rogan
  That's life. Yeah.
6:06 – 7:46
Perception, nature’s indifference, and safari reality checks
1. JRJoe Rogan
  That's true. And I also think it's a thing, it's a manage your perceptions thing. You know? Like, you have to manage your perceptions, like how you view things. Like, you could freak out about things or you could just-
2. LDLil Duval
  Everything's perception is everything.
3. JRJoe Rogan
  Yeah, yeah.
4. LDLil Duval
  I mean, it's just how you look at it and it's, that's what keep you sane, understanding, like, it's just how you look at it and understanding there's no good or bad and shit is what it is. You just gotta be on the right side. (laughs)
5. JRJoe Rogan
  Yeah.
6. LDLil Duval
  Shit. (laughs)
7. JRJoe Rogan
  Yeah. And the universe doesn't care. It just keeps marching on.
8. LDLil Duval
  The universe... Nature don't give a fuck.
9. JRJoe Rogan
  (laughs) Not at all.
10. LDLil Duval
  Nothing's more powerful than nature. And once we realize that, we'll be more humble.
11. JRJoe Rogan
  You said you saw a cat's hunt on a safari?
12. LDLil Duval
  Yeah.
13. JRJoe Rogan
  What was that like?
14. LDLil Duval
  I got it on my phone.
15. JRJoe Rogan
  Oh, shit.
16. LDLil Duval
  (laughs)
17. JRJoe Rogan
  Did you see him get one?
18. LDLil Duval
  Uh-uh. That... You gotta sit there for a minute and I didn't have no weed or nothing to sit there.
19. JRJoe Rogan
  (laughs)
20. LDLil Duval
  (laughs)
21. JRJoe Rogan
  (laughs)
22. LDLil Duval
  Yeah. And then, uh, uh-
23. JRJoe Rogan
  Where were you?
24. LDLil Duval
  In, uh... Where was that at? Tanza- Tanzania. Tanzania. I posted it on my Instagram.
25. JRJoe Rogan
  Oh, wow.
26. LDLil Duval
  I try to share shit like this here 'cause where I'm from, we never seen no shit like that. But it was dope as fuck. It was, it was way more interesting than I thought it was gonna be. It's like really watching, like being in the hood and watching a fight or watching somebody get-
27. JRJoe Rogan
  (laughs)
28. LDLil Duval
  ... get shot.
29. JRJoe Rogan
  Oh, wow. Okay, it's about to load up.
30. LDLil Duval
  Yeah, I gotta load up. Give it a second 'cause it's an old iCloud. It's on the iCloud. Give it a second unless y'all got wifi.
7:46 – 10:44
Travel hacks: vaccines, food poisoning stories, and why Duval trusts McDonald’s abroad
1. JRJoe Rogan
  Did they make you take, uh, um, malaria medication?
2. LDLil Duval
  I never took nothing at nowhere I went.
3. JRJoe Rogan
  Really?
4. LDLil Duval
  And, and I'm glad I didn't 'cause I heard people that do take them shots and stuff, they get sick.
5. JRJoe Rogan
  Real sick.
6. LDLil Duval
  Yeah.
7. JRJoe Rogan
  Yeah.
8. LDLil Duval
  Only thing you... And plus, I don't eat a lot, so it ain't too much that's gonna fuck me up. I eat McDonald's wherever I go. McDonald's is your friend when you're out the country.
9. JRJoe Rogan
  (laughs) It's, uh...
10. LDLil Duval
  I think that's it.
11. JRJoe Rogan
  Is that you?
12. LDLil Duval
  No, that ain't, that ain't it. Hold up.
13. JRJoe Rogan
  He said he took this.
14. LDLil Duval
  Huh?
15. JRJoe Rogan
  The Comedic Guy- You took this one? ... the shot up there.
16. LDLil Duval
  Oh, the shot right-
17. JRJoe Rogan
  Did you take that one, too? Screaming.
18. LDLil Duval
  Yeah. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, I took that pic.
19. JRJoe Rogan
  So is this your other Instagram? The comedic guy?
20. LDLil Duval
  Yeah, that's my other, other Instagram.
21. JRJoe Rogan
  So it's just photographs?
22. LDLil Duval
  Photographs, like just... And I call it Comedic Guy 'cause-
23. JRJoe Rogan
  (sighs)
24. LDLil Duval
  ... I think comedians got the best eye, you know, 'cause we observe, you know. So, I mean, you should be able to take good pics if you're a comedian.
25. JRJoe Rogan
  Wow, this meat market's intense. Where is this at?
26. LDLil Duval
  That was at, uh, Zanzibar.
27. JRJoe Rogan
  Whoa.
28. LDLil Duval
  I think.
29. JRJoe Rogan
  What kind of meat is on that?
30. LDLil Duval
  Uh, shit, I don't know. Something I ain't finna eat.
10:44 – 14:03
Internet culture detour: mukbang, population jokes, and the Mexico/green card dilemma
1. JRJoe Rogan
  My kids explained this to me. I didn't know about this. It's called, uh, mukbang.
2. LDLil Duval
  What's that?
3. JRJoe Rogan
  It's, uh, a style of, uh, video- Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. ... that they do in Korea where Korea, like, I, I guess they're proper and polite when they eat that's, you know, they have good manners. They try to do that culturally.
4. LDLil Duval
  Mm-hmm.
5. JRJoe Rogan
  So, uh, they have these videos that are real popular where they just eat like slobs. They'll eat like an octopus and they're like (chewing noises) and they have, they just splatter food all over their face and make a lot of noises while they chew. And these videos are insanely popular. Millions and millions of views of people watching someone eat.
6. LDLil Duval
  That's 'cause it's... Well, you can't go by their... Our view of millions in their view ain't that much 'cause you gotta think it's billions of them.
7. JRJoe Rogan
  (laughs)
8. LDLil Duval
  So, I mean...
9. JRJoe Rogan
  It's true.
10. LDLil Duval
  It ain't shit. (laughs)
11. JRJoe Rogan
  That's, that's true. But there's not billions of Koreans, but I guess it's worldwide.
12. LDLil Duval
  It's a, it's wi- It's a lot of them.
13. JRJoe Rogan
  How many Koreans are there?
14. LDLil Duval
  Just Google it.
15. JRJoe Rogan
  It's a small country, relatively.
16. LDLil Duval
  Hey, Siri, how many, um-
17. JRJoe Rogan
  (laughs)
18. LDLil Duval
  ... how many Koreans are there out here?
19. JVJamie Vernon
  I'm Siri, your virtual assistant.
20. JRJoe Rogan
  Oh, he's a guy. American.
21. LDLil Duval
  How many Koreans population out here?
22. JRJoe Rogan
  (laughs)
23. LDLil Duval
  I don't know that. Uh...
24. JVJamie Vernon
  I found this on the web.
25. LDLil Duval
  It don't... Let me just do the paper, w- write, ty- type it the old fashioned way.
26. JRJoe Rogan
  I'm gonna guess. Population of Korea, 50 million.
27. LDLil Duval
  50 million?
28. JRJoe Rogan
  What'd I guess? 51.47. Oh.
29. LDLil Duval
  51.47?
30. JRJoe Rogan
  Yeah. They-
14:03 – 18:57
Brain scans, memory glitches, and the ‘iCloud as your brain’ idea
1. JRJoe Rogan
  If you wanted to make a perfect solution, what you would do is you would have tests for everybody.
2. LDLil Duval
  Mm-hmm.
3. JRJoe Rogan
  Everybody. And, and you either make it in or make-
4. LDLil Duval
  But I don't know about that 'cause when you get over here, you kinda slow to American thought.
5. JRJoe Rogan
  Right.
6. LDLil Duval
  Like what, what would be the test? Like there's n- you couldn't have a test like that 'cause it'd be biased.
7. JRJoe Rogan
  Well, maybe, but, I mean, who works harder than Mexicans?
8. LDLil Duval
  Yeah, but the test-
9. JRJoe Rogan
  The, the test doesn't just have to be on paper. The test could be like-
10. LDLil Duval
  What, the test gonna be like, who can build a house?
11. JRJoe Rogan
  ... like, uh, who, who are you? Like maybe there's a way to find out who you are. Like what, what kind of person are you? Are you a person that's a valuable member of the community?
12. LDLil Duval
  Well, nowadays with technology, they could just put something in you-
13. JRJoe Rogan
  Scan you.
14. LDLil Duval
  ... and scan you and figure it out.
15. JRJoe Rogan
  Yeah. Find out your thoughts.
16. LDLil Duval
  Yeah.
17. JRJoe Rogan
  Put you on an fMRI, read your brain.
18. LDLil Duval
  Yeah. But then you gotta figure out, what would they be looking for to see if they can let you in? Like...
19. JRJoe Rogan
  They convicted a lady in India from a brain scan of murder. There was a, they used a fMRI and they said that through this machine, they were able to detect functional knowledge of the murder.
20. LDLil Duval
  Ain't that's Minority Report associated?
21. JRJoe Rogan
  Yeah.
22. LDLil Duval
  That's that movie, ain't it?
23. JRJoe Rogan
  I don't think they're r- I don't think it's real though. I think they just didn't understand the science.
24. LDLil Duval
  If they, if they m- wrote something about it, it can happen or it's gonna happen.
25. JRJoe Rogan
  Oh, it's gonna happen. I definitely think it's gonna happen. But I think that where they're at right now, if, if this person really did get convicted, I don't think they really understand the science. I think they're just convicting them because someone said it makes sense. And then there's not enough people that actually understand what, how little you actually can read. Like, she could have had-
26. LDLil Duval
  Uh-huh.
27. JRJoe Rogan
  She could have been told about the scene.
28. LDLil Duval
  Right.
29. JRJoe Rogan
  And then developed a functional memory.
30. LDLil Duval
  Oh, yeah, yeah. Yeah.
18:57 – 22:55
Space obsession: the moon’s temperature, Earth as a spaceship, and wanting the ultimate selfie
1. LDLil Duval
  How does the sun... How come... Let me a- maybe I'm just being retarded or something, but-
2. JRJoe Rogan
  (laughs)
3. LDLil Duval
  ... how does the sun heat the sk- heat the Earth up, but not the moon? Like, why the moon cold?
4. JRJoe Rogan
  Moon doesn't have an atmosphere. The atmosphere is what captures the heat.
5. LDLil Duval
  But, yeah, that's what captures it.
6. JRJoe Rogan
  Yeah.
7. LDLil Duval
  But, so the heat ain't out there in space?
8. JRJoe Rogan
  Well, the heat is on the moon. The moon in the sun, it's 250 degrees, and in the shade, it's 250 degrees below zero.
9. LDLil Duval
  So, the moon never turns-
10. JRJoe Rogan
  Yeah.
11. LDLil Duval
  ... neither, it's always like just stuck in one position?
12. JRJoe Rogan
  Mm-hmm, yes.
13. LDLil Duval
  And it's, it's the, the moon is stuck in one position.
14. JRJoe Rogan
  Right.
15. LDLil Duval
  I'm trying to picture it, hold up. All right, this the moon, the Earth...
16. JRJoe Rogan
  And then the sun.
17. LDLil Duval
  And then the sun over-
18. JRJoe Rogan
  So everything's revolving around the sun. The thing is, the moon revolves around the sun like this, like it's always doing the same thing.
19. LDLil Duval
  Right.
20. JRJoe Rogan
  And the Earth spins.
21. LDLil Duval
  So, it's a piece of the moon that's hot?
22. JRJoe Rogan
  There's a s- the sun. If you get in the sun, the sun spot, the bright spot of the moon, it's 250 degrees. If you get in the shade, it's 250 degrees below zero. It's a giant fluctuation.
23. LDLil Duval
  So there is a sun pod, on there?
24. JRJoe Rogan
  Yes. It gets very hot on the moon. The thing is, they're, they're protected, or they're not rather, they're, they're not protected by an atmosphere. So we have an atmosphere, the atmosphere, the, the magnetosphere, the oxygen, the nitrogen, all that stuff filters out all the heat and captures it and keeps us steady. That's there, one of the reasons why we're here-
25. LDLil Duval
  Right.
26. JRJoe Rogan
  ... is 'cause we, we also have the moon.
27. LDLil Duval
  I understand why the moon, yeah, 'cause I-
28. JRJoe Rogan
  But the moon helps us too.
29. LDLil Duval
  From scuba diving, I understand how the moon's important for the ocean and all that.
30. JRJoe Rogan
  Mm-hmm.
22:55 – 34:12
Flat Earth, religion as social scaffolding, and conversation as the new ‘Bible’
1. LDLil Duval
  That shit hard as fuck. And I wanna prove to all the flat Earthers.
2. JRJoe Rogan
  That's what I'm saying.
3. LDLil Duval
  You dumb fucks! I wanna show them so bad, you stupid motherfuckers.
4. JRJoe Rogan
  Yes.
5. LDLil Duval
  I wanna do that so bad.
6. JRJoe Rogan
  Preach.
7. LDLil Duval
  Just, just shit on 'em.
8. JRJoe Rogan
  It's so si- I can't believe that's a real thing.
9. LDLil Duval
  Me neither, man, 'cause like I, where I live in, I got a, a house in the, in the Bahamas. Like, you, when at nighttime, you can really see how round the Earth is, 'cause it's so pitch black. Like, when you walk out the yard at night, it feels like you outer space. And you can really see how round the Earth is. It's in, it's damn near stupid how people don't, don't believe that it's round. Like, it's just...
10. JRJoe Rogan
  It just, people wanna believe shit is a trick. People wanna believe everything is a lie.
11. LDLil Duval
  People didn't think America was here when it was over in Europe. Like, they-
12. JRJoe Rogan
  That's true.
13. LDLil Duval
  They didn't.
14. JRJoe Rogan
  Yeah.
15. LDLil Duval
  Like, it's, it's... So it's just like people don't think outer space, we don't think, it's hard to think that far, 'cause then you think that far, you gotta think about it, and they don't wanna think.
16. JRJoe Rogan
  The people that didn't think America was here, at least they have the benefit there was no photographs, they had never been.
17. LDLil Duval
  Yeah.
18. JRJoe Rogan
  They don't know anybody who's been. N- so it probably was m- way more of a question whether or not America existed.
19. LDLil Duval
  Yeah.
20. JRJoe Rogan
  Versus whether or not the Earth is round. The Earth is round. You can see it. It's not hard. They have satellites that take a photo of it every 10 minutes. The idea that all that's fake is so crazy. The idea that every mission is fake, every space station mission, every satellite, oh, that's fake. Like, why? These guys, the, and the weird thing is, a lot of the dudes that are doing it, they're like super Christian, a lot of the flat Earth people.
21. LDLil Duval
  Yeah.
22. JRJoe Rogan
  They're super Christian, they think that this is all like the idea that we're in space, that we're on a flat ball, is uh, to keep us from God. Like, what are-
23. LDLil Duval
  (laughs)
24. JRJoe Rogan
  It doesn't make any sense.
25. LDLil Duval
  You have to keep, you have ... I mean, in religion, and I do believe in religion, but in religion, you have to keep 'em in a certain space to keep their mind focused on that right there, 'cause otherwise they ... So, you can't tell everybody everything.
26. JRJoe Rogan
  No.
27. LDLil Duval
  'Cause then they'll go crazy.
28. JRJoe Rogan
  That's true.
29. LDLil Duval
  That's why, that's why I believe in religion. I really do, for normal people.
30. JRJoe Rogan
  (laughs)
34:12 – 40:29
Weed: starting late, indica slowing him down, and social media sensitivity
1. JRJoe Rogan
  You, uh, you didn't smart, start smoking weed till four years ago?
2. LDLil Duval
  Yeah.
3. JRJoe Rogan
  That's crazy.
4. LDLil Duval
  I never smoked, I never drank. I mean, I drunk every blue moon, like on my birthday, but I don't drink. I hate liquor. Hate the way it tastes.
5. JRJoe Rogan
  So what happened?
6. LDLil Duval
  With smoking?
7. JRJoe Rogan
  Yeah.
8. LDLil Duval
  Um, well, well, when I was younger everybody did it, so that was one of the reasons I didn't wanna do it 'cause everybody was on drugs and all that. My daddy used to do crack and all that, so I was, I was against drugs. So as I grew up I just never gave a fuck about it as much as everybody else did. But I used to love the way it smell.
9. JRJoe Rogan
  (laughs)
10. LDLil Duval
  You know, like, I loved the way it smelled so I used to be in the room just smelling the shit. And then after a while, then once I got to a point in my life where I was like, "I can't fall off," (laughs) like, "This is the worst my life gonna get," it was like, "All right, I tried," and then that was the best thing that ever happened to me, (laughs) trying that shit.
11. JRJoe Rogan
  Wh- when you tried it, were you like, "What the fuck was I thinking?"
12. LDLil Duval
  Yeah, I should've been doing this shit.
13. JRJoe Rogan
  Yes, all along.
14. LDLil Duval
  Yeah, 'cause when I first did it, I didn't get high 'cause, like, I tried to get the soft shit, I was scared. Like, I was like, "All right, it's gonna do something." And then I was like, "This shit ain't doin' shit." I out-smoked everybody that was with us, you know? I was just smoking, smoking, smoking and then, then once I started really getting into it, I was like, "This shit is really what's up." Like...
15. JRJoe Rogan
  What are the laws down in Atlanta?
16. LDLil Duval
  I don't know. (laughs)
17. JRJoe Rogan
  (laughs)
18. JVJamie Vernon
  (laughs)
19. LDLil Duval
  Shit. Don't, don't a nigga know the law?
20. JRJoe Rogan
  (laughs)
21. JVJamie Vernon
  (laughs)
22. LDLil Duval
  (laughs) Know... I don't know.
23. JRJoe Rogan
  Oh, it's just so stupid that it's illegal anywhere.
24. LDLil Duval
  Everything is stupid, man. All this shit's da... Just make all drugs legal.
25. JRJoe Rogan
  Well, it's the only thing that's gonna stop the cartels.
26. LDLil Duval
  I don't know what this shit I just smoked, but that shit good as hell.
27. JRJoe Rogan
  Yeah, that's Kevin Smith's shit. That's, uh, what does he call it, Jamie? Do you know?
28. LDLil Duval
  Jay and Bob.
29. JVJamie Vernon
  They all have different little names on 'em, I think.
30. LDLil Duval
  That shit has some what's name on it?
40:29 – 42:37
Scuba diving to tectonic plates: learning humility from the ocean and geology
1. JRJoe Rogan
  How long you been scuba diving?
2. LDLil Duval
  About 10 years now.
3. JRJoe Rogan
  Yeah?
4. LDLil Duval
  About 10 years. And this ... That's where I learned about life through scuba diving.
5. JRJoe Rogan
  Yeah?
6. LDLil Duval
  Scuba diving let me know I didn't know shit. (laughs)
7. JRJoe Rogan
  How, how deep do you go down?
8. LDLil Duval
  How ... The deepest I've been, like 130. (gasps) But there ain't nothing down there.
9. JRJoe Rogan
  (laughs)
10. LDLil Duval
  (laughs) When you get to that point, there ain't nothing living down there. Only thing you might see is shipwrecks and shit like that, but-
11. JRJoe Rogan
  That's so fucking deep.
12. LDLil Duval
  Yeah, it is.
13. JRJoe Rogan
  130. This is you? There you go. Yeah, it's from his page. From his page. Oh, so he-
14. LDLil Duval
  Oh, that's from-
15. JRJoe Rogan
  ... went down there and take pictures?
16. LDLil Duval
  Yeah, that's-
17. JRJoe Rogan
  Can he bring an iPhone down there or no?
18. LDLil Duval
  That's in Iceland.
19. JRJoe Rogan
  (laughs)
20. LDLil Duval
  Nah, not that deep. That was the ta- the tectonic plates.
21. JRJoe Rogan
  Hmm.
22. LDLil Duval
  Where you could touch ... The, the only place on Earth where you can touch-
23. JRJoe Rogan
  (sighs)
24. LDLil Duval
  ... North America and, um, Europe.
25. JRJoe Rogan
  Oh my God. What if it ground right while you're there?
26. LDLil Duval
  And, and honestly, you can't ... I don't even think you could do it no more, 'cause they said, "Shh." It spreads, um, a centimeter every year or some shit.
27. JRJoe Rogan
  Oh.
28. LDLil Duval
  So it's s- separating apart.
29. JRJoe Rogan
  Like Pangea, right? You know the theory of Pangea?
30. LDLil Duval
  Uh-uh. Uh-uh.
42:37 – 1:02:16
Natural disasters, island resilience, and America’s fragility without modern systems
1. LDLil Duval
  Shit, that hurricane almost hit me in Bahamas, my house.
2. JRJoe Rogan
  Did it?
3. LDLil Duval
  It hit... Now, I moved, um, the last day it was coming, it was coming directly to my house and it moved 10 miles up and missed me.
4. JRJoe Rogan
  Wow.
5. LDLil Duval
  About 10, 10, 20 mile, and it hit Abaco and all that shit.
6. JRJoe Rogan
  How much of the Bahamas got hit?
7. LDLil Duval
  The, the, just the island of, uh, I think Freeport and Abaco. Abaco got hit real bad though. Like, that shit like natural disaster type shit. Like-
8. JRJoe Rogan
  Like wiped out, right?
9. LDLil Duval
  Wipeout type shit, like.
10. JRJoe Rogan
  Are, are they getting worse? Do you think that hurricanes are getting worse?
11. LDLil Duval
  I don't know. I think just life i- nature's doing what it do. It's nature. And it's like, that's like, that's like a, a little grasshopper saying, "You think the, you think the humans are getting worse?" Like-
12. JRJoe Rogan
  (sighs)
13. LDLil Duval
  ... they can't control us (laughs) and we can't control nature.
14. JRJoe Rogan
  Yeah, but these fucking hurricanes are... I think what's causing 'em is the ocean water in the Atlantic-
15. LDLil Duval
  It's definitely that.
16. JRJoe Rogan
  ... is warmer, right?
17. LDLil Duval
  It's definitely that.
18. JRJoe Rogan
  Yeah.
19. LDLil Duval
  I mean, that's, that's just what this earth is. It's gonna definitely die or do something eventually, but there's nothing we can do to stop it. We can-
20. JRJoe Rogan
  So-
21. LDLil Duval
  ... slow it down. That's why they trying to find other earths, so we can move out this motherfucker.
22. JRJoe Rogan
  (laughs)
23. LDLil Duval
  We can go somewhere else.
24. JVJamie Vernon
  Didn't we move so far away from that though? (laughs)
25. LDLil Duval
  Yeah. We so far-
26. JVJamie Vernon
  Oh.
27. LDLil Duval
  ... away from the earth ending too. Should be in na- in our lifetime.
28. JRJoe Rogan
  Yeah. No, I agree.
29. LDLil Duval
  Even though I do believe we need to save the earth, more so than anything.
30. JRJoe Rogan
  Well, we definitely-
1:02:16 – 1:13:13
Flying his own planes: freedom, maintenance realities, and bringing more Black pilots into aviation
1. LDLil Duval
  No, that's why I got a plane now. So that's-
2. JRJoe Rogan
  Oh.
3. LDLil Duval
  So that made it a lot easier.
4. JRJoe Rogan
  Do you fly yourself? You actually fly, don't you?
5. LDLil Duval
  I try to fly. I'm learning, that's why I just... I bought a plane and learned as I go. (laughs)
6. JRJoe Rogan
  What kind of plane did you get?
7. LDLil Duval
  I got a Baron 50, and a, uh, a Baron 55, and a, uh, Cessna 421.
8. JRJoe Rogan
  And you're learning how to fly them?
9. LDLil Duval
  Yeah. I know how to f-... I know how to take off, land and f- do all that. But as far as, like, really paying attention, and that's where it's hard for me still. I'm still trying to learn to pay attention and learn what's what and knowing when shit out.
10. JRJoe Rogan
  Instrumentation and all that shit. Yeah.
11. LDLil Duval
  Yeah, learning when shit broke, like-
12. JRJoe Rogan
  Yeah.
13. LDLil Duval
  ...'cause them motherfucking do break you, and, and I wouldn't have known if my, my, um, pilot wasn't there.
14. JRJoe Rogan
  Oh, really?
15. LDLil Duval
  Yeah, 'cause I don't know. I'm still learning.
16. JRJoe Rogan
  What broke? What broke?
17. LDLil Duval
  A lot of things. Them shits break like a motherfucker.
18. JRJoe Rogan
  (laughs)
19. LDLil Duval
  Them shits... Sh- sh-... Every time I land there's something on that motherfucker. But-
20. JRJoe Rogan
  Really?
21. LDLil Duval
  Yeah. But I'm blessed the way I can afford to do it, and it pays for itself kinda in, in what we do, so I like it though. And I like the fact of I... Like getting more, more people like me into it, you know what I'm saying? 'Cause I think a lot of Black people need to get into it more so, 'cause this shit been going on for a long time. And for it to be going on so long and we not into it as much we should is... I think that's a problem.
22. JRJoe Rogan
  But aviation's freedom.
23. LDLil Duval
  It's... Man, it's the most freedom ever, man.
24. JRJoe Rogan
  I mean, you, you got a three-dimensional road in the sky. You go wherever the fuck you want, especially with a small plane.
25. LDLil Duval
  But you don't know that though until you do it.
26. JRJoe Rogan
  So is this... This is you right here?
27. LDLil Duval
  Oh, yeah.
28. JRJoe Rogan
  And this is, uh-
29. LDLil Duval
  That's my Baron.
30. JRJoe Rogan
  So is this, uh, propeller driven? Is it a jet?

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Meeting Lil Duval: social media authenticity and the ‘Smile Bitch’ moment

Getting into UFC (and discomfort with violence), then pivoting to travel as “me time”

Aging, mortality, and making peace with death

Perception, nature’s indifference, and safari reality checks

Travel hacks: vaccines, food poisoning stories, and why Duval trusts McDonald’s abroad

Internet culture detour: mukbang, population jokes, and the Mexico/green card dilemma

Brain scans, memory glitches, and the ‘iCloud as your brain’ idea

Space obsession: the moon’s temperature, Earth as a spaceship, and wanting the ultimate selfie

Flat Earth, religion as social scaffolding, and conversation as the new ‘Bible’

Weed: starting late, indica slowing him down, and social media sensitivity

Scuba diving to tectonic plates: learning humility from the ocean and geology

Natural disasters, island resilience, and America’s fragility without modern systems

Flying his own planes: freedom, maintenance realities, and bringing more Black pilots into aviation

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