Joe Rogan Experience #1404 - Bryan Callen

1. 0:00 – 1:49

   Turmeric coffee, aging pains, and flirting with TRT

   1. JRJoe Rogan0:00

      (singing) Brian Callanan had his first taste of turmeric coffee.

   2. BCBryan Callen0:06

      That's right.

   3. JRJoe Rogan0:06

      Do you know there's an R in turmeric?

   4. BCBryan Callen0:08

      Yes.

   5. JRJoe Rogan0:08

      A lot of people don't.

   6. BCBryan Callen0:09

      I've been eating turmeric since, well, the '70s, back when I was living in India.

   7. JRJoe Rogan0:13

      I would've bet my life there was no R.

   8. BCBryan Callen0:15

      (laughs) Really?

   9. JRJoe Rogan0:15

      Until about four months ago.

   10. BCBryan Callen0:16

       Turmeric?

   11. JRJoe Rogan0:16

       Yeah, I didn't think there was an R.

   12. BCBryan Callen0:17

       Turmeric.

   13. JRJoe Rogan0:18

       I thought it was turmeric.

   14. BCBryan Callen0:19

       Yeah. I thought it was-

   15. JRJoe Rogan0:20

       I thought it was T-U-M-E-R-I-C or whatever.

   16. BCBryan Callen0:22

       No, the Indians have been using it forever.

   17. JRJoe Rogan0:24

       Oh, yeah, they have.

   18. BCBryan Callen0:25

       That's why I walk around-

   19. JRJoe Rogan0:26

       But I'm just saying I didn't know how to spell it.

   20. BCBryan Callen0:27

       That's why as a kid I had no inflammation in my body.

   21. JRJoe Rogan0:29

       You just ate turmeric all the time.

   22. BCBryan Callen0:31

       That's right.

   23. JRJoe Rogan0:31

       Did your pee smell weird?

   24. BCBryan Callen0:32

       I was the turmeric kid.

   25. JRJoe Rogan0:33

       What else makes your pee smell weird besides asparagus?

   26. BCBryan Callen0:36

       Um, I think sometimes coffee. My, my... Look-

   27. JRJoe Rogan0:39

       Hmm.

   28. BCBryan Callen0:39

       ... I'm 52. My body is betraying me.

   29. JRJoe Rogan0:42

       Hmm.

   30. BCBryan Callen0:42

       Which is why I'm having my Laird Hamilton Super Coffee right now.
2. 1:49 – 5:11

   Sauna, intermittent fasting, and strength vs. burnout training

   1. JRJoe Rogan1:49

      I do. I'm 52. I feel fucking great. I'm in the sauna almost every day. I have a sauna here.

   2. BCBryan Callen1:54

      Mm-hmm. Really?

   3. JRJoe Rogan1:55

      I got a sauna at my house. Yes.

   4. BCBryan Callen1:56

      You and I are gonna sauna after this Russian style.

   5. JRJoe Rogan1:57

      We're gonna sauna all... Let's do it. Let's do it.

   6. BCBryan Callen1:58

      All right.

   7. JRJoe Rogan1:58

      Dude, it's so good for you, man. It means something. Something's happening.

   8. BCBryan Callen2:02

      Yeah.

   9. JRJoe Rogan2:02

      For sure.

   10. BCBryan Callen2:03

       Yeah.

   11. JRJoe Rogan2:03

       After I get out of there, I'm just, like, a little looser. It's a, it's a percentage. I don't know what percentage it is. It's... Is it 10%? Is it, is it more? But there's a feeling that you get after you do a good sauna session where everything is just, like... (sighs) It feels good. It feels good.

   12. BCBryan Callen2:16

       Yeah, but, you know, a lot of this also has to do with arriving at a point in your life where you're happy with this... What you've done, the decisions you've made. So I sleep, for me, eight hours of sleep, seven and a half hours. Pfft. And then I... If... As long as I don't eat for 12 hours. So if I eat a- if I finished eating at 8:00, uh, I'll start eating at 8:00 again or 10:00. Uh, that for me, 12, 12 to 14 hours, uh, I guess it's intermittent fasting.

   13. JRJoe Rogan2:41

       Yes.

   14. BCBryan Callen2:41

       Those two things. I haven't had a cold in, I don't know, 15 months.

   15. JRJoe Rogan2:45

       You're so trendy.

   16. BCBryan Callen2:46

       I know.

   17. JRJoe Rogan2:46

       Um, Pavel.

   18. BCBryan Callen2:47

       I am.

   19. JRJoe Rogan2:47

       Pavel tolds me... Tolds me?

   20. BCBryan Callen2:48

       Tolds me. (laughs)

   21. JRJoe Rogan2:49

       Pavel Tsatsouline.

   22. BCBryan Callen2:51

       Yeah.

   23. JRJoe Rogan2:51

       Uh, who's an amazing-

   24. BCBryan Callen2:52

       The, uh, kettlebell monster.

   25. JRJoe Rogan2:53

       Amazing... Love that guy. Fucking such an honor to have him in here. I'm a big fan of that guy. He told me he eats once a day.

   26. BCBryan Callen2:59

       Really?

   27. JRJoe Rogan2:59

       Big giant meal at dinner, that's it.

   28. BCBryan Callen3:01

       At dinner?

   29. JRJoe Rogan3:02

       Yep.

   30. BCBryan Callen3:02

       So how does he stay... Uh, I don't... I think I get-
3. 5:11 – 9:27

   Bill Goldberg stories: pro-wrestling brutality, athleticism, and training longevity

   1. JRJoe Rogan5:11

      By the way, sp- do you wanna talk about physical? On the show, we had, uh, Bill Goldberg on. And you know Bill.

   2. BCBryan Callen5:18

      I love that dude.

   3. JRJoe Rogan5:19

      The best. I, I love him. Now, he walks around at a very trim, he's my age.

   4. BCBryan Callen5:25

      60. (laughs)

   5. JRJoe Rogan5:25

      Oh, 260. Uh, when he was wrestling he was 280. It, and, and you don't-

   6. BCBryan Callen5:30

      He's giant.

   7. JRJoe Rogan5:30

      ... what y- what you don't realize is he played professional football for, I think it was four or seven years. So he's the real deal and just a real athlete. So- Also a very nice guy.

   8. BCBryan Callen5:39

      The best. I love him.

   9. JRJoe Rogan5:40

      Yeah. He did a, hosted a show called, um, um... What was it called? Garage Mahal.

   10. BCBryan Callen5:44

       Yeah.

   11. JRJoe Rogan5:45

       And they redid my garage and turned it into, like, a, like, a whole training center. Like with a cage.

   12. BCBryan Callen5:50

       Oh, that's awesome.

   13. JRJoe Rogan5:50

       They put a cage and hung heavy bags and-

   14. BCBryan Callen5:52

       That's awesome.

   15. JRJoe Rogan5:52

       ... put pictures of, like, old UFC fights on the wall. It's fucking amazing.

   16. BCBryan Callen5:56

       Yeah. He's a guy who brings it 100%, like, every time, whether it's acting... And so... And by the way, he comes in and I'm like, "Your neck looks so thick." He goes-

   17. JRJoe Rogan6:05

       (laughs)

   18. BCBryan Callen6:05

       ... "It's the first thing I work out."

   19. JRJoe Rogan6:06

       I love that.

   20. BCBryan Callen6:06

       "First thing." He's one of those guys-

   21. JRJoe Rogan6:07

       (laughs)

   22. BCBryan Callen6:07

       ... like Chuck Liddell, when you're close to him, he breathes differently.

   23. JRJoe Rogan6:10

       (laughs)

   24. BCBryan Callen6:10

       Like, you know when you... W- with a, a race car. (imitates engine revving) Like he's... (imitates breathing heavily)

   25. JRJoe Rogan6:15

       Yeah, like a fucking-

   26. BCBryan Callen6:15

       You're like, "What's going on?"

   27. JRJoe Rogan6:16

       ... Shelby GT500.

   28. BCBryan Callen6:18

       Yeah. I'm like, "How much did you put in that motor?" (laughs)

   29. JRJoe Rogan6:19

       (laughs)

   30. BCBryan Callen6:20

       He's so big. (laughs)
4. 9:27 – 13:14

   Judo in Joe’s garage and DDP yoga: technique, mobility, and back rehab

   1. JRJoe Rogan9:27

      Hey, Jimmy Pedro, um, w- who was working for Fuji at the time and, uh, they installed... Oh, no. He was working for Zebra, excuse me, at the time and, uh, they... Uh, he works for Fuji now. Then... Jimmy Pedro was a gold medalist in the Olympics with Judo.

   2. BCBryan Callen9:40

      Jesus. (laughs)

   3. JRJoe Rogan9:40

      And Jimmy Pedro set everything up and he, he put the, um... They put these mats down on, like, a raised platform so it had, like, a little bounce to it. Like, if you, if you fell-

   4. BCBryan Callen9:51

      Yeah, yeah.

   5. JRJoe Rogan9:51

      ... you got slammed or something like that. And so they tested it out. And so by testing it out, Jimmy Pedro, who probably weighs 175 maybe?

   6. BCBryan Callen9:59

      Let me see.

   7. JRJoe Rogan9:59

      You know, was lean, thin, very strong guy.

   8. BCBryan Callen10:02

      Yeah.

   9. JRJoe Rogan10:02

      Throwing around Goldberg.

   10. BCBryan Callen10:03

       Oh, he was?

   11. JRJoe Rogan10:04

       Yeah. I mean, Goldberg was letting him.

   12. BCBryan Callen10:05

       Yeah.

   13. JRJoe Rogan10:05

       He was executing throws on him.

   14. BCBryan Callen10:07

       Yeah. I mean, Goldberg will throw himself.

   15. JRJoe Rogan10:08

       But you see Pedro's technique is such that it's so good that he can do this.

   16. BCBryan Callen10:12

       Oh, shit.

   17. JRJoe Rogan10:13

       Like, look how easy. That's my garage, son.

   18. BCBryan Callen10:15

       Wow.

   19. JRJoe Rogan10:15

       So watch how he, watch, watch how he does this. I mean, this is al- also... This is Jimmy Pedro way after he's done, uh, competing.

   20. BCBryan Callen10:23

       Doesn't matter.

   21. JRJoe Rogan10:23

       He teaches now. But look at that. Boom, son.

   22. BCBryan Callen10:25

       Look at that. Look at that technique. Jesus Christ.

   23. JRJoe Rogan10:27

       Look at the way... Those hip tosses. Fucking p- perfect.

   24. BCBryan Callen10:30

       Yeah.

   25. JRJoe Rogan10:30

       Just perfect technique.

   26. BCBryan Callen10:32

       Yeah, it's ridiculous.

   27. JRJoe Rogan10:32

       Look how much bigger Goldberg is than him, but he can throw him around and now he's showing Goldberg how to do it.

   28. BCBryan Callen10:36

       Yeah. Goldberg-

   29. JRJoe Rogan10:37

       Goldberg knows all this shit already.

   30. BCBryan Callen10:38

       Have you ever see him kick and punch? God, that's-
5. 13:14 – 18:31

   Physical comedy injuries, warming up, and dumb athletic ego

   1. BCBryan Callen13:14

      The other thing about getting older is you get sore faster. I had to have a ... Oh, this is fucking such a stupid thing. I, it's a fucking ... I had to have a wrestling match with my jeans. Don't ask. I had to get it-

   2. JRJoe Rogan13:24

      Why?

   3. BCBryan Callen13:24

      ... and I couldn't get them off, in the-

   4. JRJoe Rogan13:25

      Why are you having-

   5. BCBryan Callen13:25

      ... in the show.

   6. JRJoe Rogan13:26

      ... on the show.

   7. BCBryan Callen13:26

      In the show.

   8. JRJoe Rogan13:26

      Why don't you get stretchy jeans?

   9. BCBryan Callen13:28

      No, but it was part of the comedy, you know.

   10. JRJoe Rogan13:31

       Oh, that you couldn't move good in your jeans?

   11. BCBryan Callen13:32

       Yeah, and, uh-

   12. JRJoe Rogan13:33

       So they give you extra tight jeans?

   13. BCBryan Callen13:34

       ... I don't wanna give away. Guys, I don't wanna give away the episode at school. You know what I'm saying? Just-

   14. JRJoe Rogan13:37

       (sighs)

   15. BCBryan Callen13:37

       You're gonna have to wait. And, uh-

   16. JRJoe Rogan13:38

       Can you see your hog?

   17. BCBryan Callen13:39

       And, uh ... And you can see-

   18. JRJoe Rogan13:40

       Can you see your hog in your pants?

   19. BCBryan Callen13:41

       Oh, yeah. Why? I tie it to my leg. I wear it in a holster.

   20. JRJoe Rogan13:43

       Oh.

   21. BCBryan Callen13:43

       As you know, 'cause he's unruly. And he's always wanting to get in the feed bucket, if you know what I mean.

   22. JRJoe Rogan13:47

       (laughs)

   23. BCBryan Callen13:49

       (neighing) (laughs)

   24. JRJoe Rogan13:50

       That wasn't part of the joke, though, was it?

   25. BCBryan Callen13:51

       Sorry.

   26. JRJoe Rogan13:51

       Your hog.

   27. BCBryan Callen13:52

       No, but I, I had to do that-

   28. JRJoe Rogan13:54

       High pants.

   29. BCBryan Callen13:54

       ... like, f- 10, 50, 50 takes. And, uh, well, I was sore the next day.

   30. JRJoe Rogan13:58

       Oh, yeah. For sure.
6. 18:31 – 37:13

   MMA deep-dive: Cejudo, Aldo vs. Moraes, and fixing fight scoring

   1. BCBryan Callen18:31

      But, you know, some ... I, I feel like guys like Henry Cejudo, those guys that come out of the Olympic training centers-

   2. JRJoe Rogan18:35

      Mm-hmm.

   3. BCBryan Callen18:36

      ... like, the, uh, the, uh, national coach for the g- USA gymnastics team. He was like, "My athletes don't get injured. I mean, for the most part." He said, "Because the, the g- the way we ..."... but still build them structurally. And the boring as shit exercises we have our athletes do before they start kind of putting that kind of pressure on their joints and stuff-

   4. JRJoe Rogan18:56

      Yeah.

   5. BCBryan Callen18:56

      ... is pedantic. It's piecemeal. But it, you, I always wonder, like, I'll see someone like Cejudo, who is a fucking, obviously a maniac with the way he trains.

   6. JRJoe Rogan19:06

      Mm-hmm.

   7. BCBryan Callen19:06

      But he, there's, there's a science th- that when you're, when you live at the Olympic Training Center, there's a science with all those guys. They're, they're, they're working out. There's no meathead shit.

   8. JRJoe Rogan19:16

      Oh, no question at all.

   9. BCBryan Callen19:16

      They're, they're working out-

   10. JRJoe Rogan19:17

       No question at all.

   11. BCBryan Callen19:17

       ... very specifically.

   12. JRJoe Rogan19:18

       He had those Neuroforce guys in here. That's the name of the company, right? Neuroforce? That, uh, that helped train him. They, they have all these, like, really, like, high-tech, cutting-edge training methods.

   13. BCBryan Callen19:29

       Yeah.

   14. JRJoe Rogan19:29

       And, uh, but, you know, he did get injured.

   15. BCBryan Callen19:31

       Oh, he did?

   16. JRJoe Rogan19:31

       He, he fucked his shoulder up in his last fight.

   17. BCBryan Callen19:33

       Yeah.

   18. JRJoe Rogan19:33

       He's actually had surgery since then.

   19. BCBryan Callen19:34

       In a fight, yeah.

   20. JRJoe Rogan19:35

       Yeah, yeah.

   21. BCBryan Callen19:35

       'Cause that's not natural. You're, you know-

   22. JRJoe Rogan19:36

       Yeah, the, uh, TJ Dillashaw fight, which happened, you know, it was a very quick-

   23. BCBryan Callen19:40

       Yeah.

   24. JRJoe Rogan19:40

       Oh, no, no, no, no. Marlon Moraes, that's right. It was the Marlon Moraes fight.

   25. BCBryan Callen19:43

       Okay.

   26. JRJoe Rogan19:43

       It was post TJ Dillashaw. That Marlon Moraes fight was fucking incredible. The fact that that guy was able to weather that storm of that first round-

   27. BCBryan Callen19:51

       Pshew.

   28. JRJoe Rogan19:51

       ... and, and look, Marlon Moraes, in that first round, looked like an assassin.

   29. BCBryan Callen19:54

       Mm-hmm.

   30. JRJoe Rogan19:55

       He looked like one of the best fighters ever.
7. 37:13 – 47:38

   Ego, ideology, and the ‘woke’ spiral: Merry Christmas and ‘quantum supremacy’

   1. BCBryan Callen37:13

      And one of the things as you get older that's really important to do, is to always be willing not only to change your mind and admit that you probably ... You could be hopelessly wrong.

   2. JRJoe Rogan37:23

      Absolutely.

   3. BCBryan Callen37:23

      You could be completely wrong. But also, to always be able to justify with reason and with measured argument your most cherished beliefs, okay? 'Cause so much of who we are is what we believe, right?

   4. JRJoe Rogan37:39

      Yeah.

   5. BCBryan Callen37:39

      So, much of who we are is ... Just d- where I stand politically, where I s- All those things that I've worked hard to kind of come up with a comprehensive political and philosophical, you know, g- um, uh, mooring to stand on. Well, I, I, if, if I am, if I, if I then relax, and I, I listen and accept what's given to me without, you know, putting it through the grinder and really sittin' down and testing it, then I'm, I'm guilty of being philosophically complacent and pol- you know, and basically-

   6. JRJoe Rogan38:13

      It's just you, you're a slave to your ego, right?

   7. BCBryan Callen38:14

      Yes.

   8. JRJoe Rogan38:14

      You don't, you don't wanna admit that you're wrong about things.

   9. BCBryan Callen38:17

      Yes.

   10. JRJoe Rogan38:17

       But I think ... You can't be married to ideas.

   11. BCBryan Callen38:21

       No.

   12. JRJoe Rogan38:21

       Who you are is how you go through this life.

   13. BCBryan Callen38:24

       Yes.

   14. JRJoe Rogan38:24

       And it's how you go through this life now. This is what's very important for people, you know? And I, and I try to talk about this as much as possible. You can't get, you can't get stuck in your past, because like mistakes that you made when you were a child can haunt you deep into adulthood-

   15. BCBryan Callen38:39

       Yes.

   16. JRJoe Rogan38:40

       ... because you decide that you're the person who got bullied after seventh grade and you're a loser and everybody hates you. And those feelings, you, you can cling onto those fuckers, and they'll weigh you down. You can cling onto them and you can take them into your later life. And I know people that are like, man, they're in their 60s. There was this, this, uh ... Maybe you told me this, but did you tell me the story about this dude who was like an older guy that was afraid to walk down a certain road because this other older guy who used to bully him in high school lived there?

   17. BCBryan Callen39:13

       No.

   18. JRJoe Rogan39:13

       You didn't tell me this. Somebody told me this, and this guy was in his 60s, and he was scared to go down this road because this guy lived there who used to bully him in high school, and the guy still fucked with him. Still fucked with him.

   19. BCBryan Callen39:26

       No way.

   20. JRJoe Rogan39:26

       Bro, there's some people that get stuck like that, man.

   21. BCBryan Callen39:28

       You have to get close to hear it, yeah.

   22. JRJoe Rogan39:29

       Both of those guys.

   23. BCBryan Callen39:30

       That's why I think for a lot of guys, uh, you know, walking into an MMA gym is terrifying, but it's okay. Uh, everything, uh, start with one, you know, tiny step. (laughs) And I like, I like doing anything that makes me feel uncomfortable and, and, and takes me off my pins. And-

   24. JRJoe Rogan39:47

       It's huge.

   25. BCBryan Callen39:47

       And, and because I ... It opens up new pathways of understanding somehow, or it certainly forces me to ... So, so what I do now with people who I disagree with philosophically ... You know, like say I'm talking to somebody who's a hardcore socialist or something like that. It's okay, but what I, what I try to do is I just try to listen to them really ... I, I try to kind of zero in instead of like immediately throwing my hands up, you know?

   26. JRJoe Rogan40:11

       Did you see what Brittany Cummings said the other day?

   27. BCBryan Callen40:14

       Brittany Cummings, or Whitney Cummings?

   28. JRJoe Rogan40:15

       Whitney, Whitney Cummings.

   29. BCBryan Callen40:16

       No.

   30. JRJoe Rogan40:17

       Did I say Brittany? Did I?
8. 47:38 – 58:58

   World War perspective: Europe’s scale, trench warfare horror, and historical amnesia

   1. BCBryan Callen47:38

      You also have to realize that, that historically... That thing I sent you by... There's a, there's a... People ask me what I read and stuff. W- if you go to audible.com and go to The Great Courses, I listened to these courses. I just listened to 48 lectures by a guy named Robert Buckholz, who's this fucking amazing professor on the foundations of Western civilization. One of the things he says in it is he said, um, Europeans... I mean, the f- the history of Europe, y- I mean, culminating with World War I and World War II, as bloody and as violent, it's beyond what we can imagine. How many, how many millions were killed in World War II? I mean, it's, it's-

   2. JRJoe Rogan48:09

      I don't know.

   3. BCBryan Callen48:09

      ... it's, it's beyond what we can imagine. But Europeans figured out... And it's a huge accomplishment, and it, and, and really the first time in history for anybody. They figured out how to solve their differences without killing each other, and that happened after World War II, and it took that long. They actually figured out a way to solve their differences by disagreeing, by fighting about it, by fighting dirty, but by electing their, by, by winning elections and stuff.

   4. JRJoe Rogan48:35

      Hey, here's, here's a question.

   5. BCBryan Callen48:36

      Yeah.

   6. JRJoe Rogan48:36

      The war in Europe-

   7. BCBryan Callen48:37

      Mm-hmm.

   8. JRJoe Rogan48:38

      ... all the countries involved-

   9. BCBryan Callen48:39

      Yeah.

   10. JRJoe Rogan48:39

       ... what was the, what was the size of the landscape we're looking at in c- in, like, relationship to the United States? When you look at France and Germany and England, like, what is that n- like-

   11. BCBryan Callen48:50

       Well, it wasn't just France, Germany-

   12. JRJoe Rogan48:51

       Poland... Oh, yeah-

   13. BCBryan Callen48:52

       ... and England either.

   14. JRJoe Rogan48:52

       But I'm talking about all of this.

   15. BCBryan Callen48:53

       It was Russia. It was Russia. It's a-

   16. JRJoe Rogan48:54

       Yeah. Sure.

   17. BCBryan Callen48:54

       Russia, I think, is five time zones, right?

   18. JRJoe Rogan48:56

       Russia's giant.

   19. BCBryan Callen48:56

       Yeah.

   20. JRJoe Rogan48:57

       Ru- Russia's a different animal, right?

   21. BCBryan Callen48:58

       Yeah.

   22. JRJoe Rogan48:58

       Because Russia's, um, you know, that's Asia.

   23. BCBryan Callen49:00

       Yeah. And Russia, Russia would just rely on old General Winter, as Buckholz would say.

   24. JRJoe Rogan49:04

       But the European aspect of it, the European part of, uh, World War I and II, I wanna know how much... What I was thinking is, like, it's almost like having a war inside America, right?

   25. BCBryan Callen49:13

       Yeah.

   26. JRJoe Rogan49:14

       I mean, it's really close.

   27. BCBryan Callen49:15

       I think, I think if you look at, uh...... if you, if you take, uh, France, Spain, uh, Italy, you know, Germany, Poland, all those areas-

   28. JRJoe Rogan49:25

       They fit in Rhode Island.

   29. BCBryan Callen49:26

       ... Uh, Hungary, Austria-

   30. JRJoe Rogan49:28

       (laughs)
9. 58:58 – 1:16:01

   Relativity and the weirdness of time: Rovelli, entropy, and clock drift

   1. BCBryan Callen58:58

      Back in the day, the Bible is your fixed point of truth, maybe Aristotle. But at the turn of the century, like right before World War I, man, like you had Darwin comes along. You had, well he'd come along before that, but you had Freud who said something to the effect of, "Hey, we're animals and we're basically ... We will kill and use each other as sexual tools if we don't have a strong society." And there were all these like, there were all these sort of new ... Nietzsche, Marx who said, "God is dead." Or, uh, Nietzsche said, "God is dead," but Marx basically said, uh, "Religion is the opium of the masses. Human beings are the masters of their own fate." And all of these guys who basically took God out of the equation and all of them were basically saying that we are animals and God isn't ... It ... God is no longer here. We're animals, and if you don't create a society to control our animalistic impulses, we're gonna fuck and slaughter and rape each other. And World War I proved b- all of those guys right (laughs) , basically. But it was a time when there was ... The everything was up in the air. Einstein comes along and says, "Time and space, mm, not so fast. It's actually relative." And everybody went, "What? Huh?" He goes, "Yeah, time doesn't exist, like a stopwatch. God didn't start a stopwatch," and that's what Newton said, but actually it

   2. JRJoe Rogan1:00:18

      Good luck trying to work your way through that.

   3. BCBryan Callen1:00:20

      You can't. It-

   4. JRJoe Rogan1:00:20

      The one where, when you go-

   5. BCBryan Callen1:00:21

      It confused everybody.

   6. JRJoe Rogan1:00:22

      If you go fast enough into space and then come back, everybody here will be old and you'll be the same age.

   7. BCBryan Callen1:00:28

      D- do you know how that works?

   8. JRJoe Rogan1:00:29

      Yeah.

   9. BCBryan Callen1:00:29

      Yeah.

   10. JRJoe Rogan1:00:29

       I do. But it's still, like what?

   11. BCBryan Callen1:00:32

       It's really weird. Do you know? I, I, I think this is true. This is what I read. He was walking ... He was like in, uh, where was he? CERN, Switzerland or whatever the fuck it is. He gets off the ... He's trying to come up with these, he's thinking about the theory of relativity or whatever. And he gets off the, the train and he's walking away from the train station. He turns and looks at the clock and the clock says, let's say 6:00. He turns and looks at the clocks and he turns back around and then he stops and he goes, "Wait, hold on. I was walking away from the clock. So when I saw the clock, it said 6:00, but that's how long it took the light to get to my eye. By the time the light hit my eye, it was actually later 'cause the light has to hit my eye for me ... " Do you understand?

   12. JRJoe Rogan1:01:18

       Right. Infraction of a second later.

   13. BCBryan Callen1:01:20

       Yeah.

   14. JRJoe Rogan1:01:20

       Yeah.

   15. BCBryan Callen1:01:20

       So he said, "What if I was moving at the speed of light? Time would stand still."

   16. JRJoe Rogan1:01:24

       Dun, dun, dun. Oh.

   17. BCBryan Callen1:01:25

       "Because the light would never hit my eye." It's a weird thing to say, but I was like, that's a fucking ...

   18. JRJoe Rogan1:01:30

       Yeah. But I wonder if that works with biological aging.

   19. BCBryan Callen1:01:32

       They ... I don't know.

   20. JRJoe Rogan1:01:33

       I wonder if biological aging is on a constant, right?

   21. BCBryan Callen1:01:35

       Oh, that's interesting. Yeah. Entropy, right?

   22. JRJoe Rogan1:01:38

       Well, I know that, like, time would be different, right?... but I wonder, like, when you say, "Time stands still," but it's gotta exist if you're alive. It's gotta exist somehow, biologically. Your body's not gonna stop heart beating and breathing, right?

   23. BCBryan Callen1:01:53

       Yeah.

   24. JRJoe Rogan1:01:53

       So, like, how many heartbeats do you have in you? I mean, that's part of what life is. Life is, like, you've got a limited number of heartbeats, if you wanted to really-

   25. BCBryan Callen1:01:59

       Right.

   26. JRJoe Rogan1:01:59

       ... break it down.

   27. BCBryan Callen1:02:00

       Right.

   28. JRJoe Rogan1:02:00

       Like, how many of them are you gonna use while you're going through light speed? Those don't count?

   29. BCBryan Callen1:02:04

       I know.

   30. JRJoe Rogan1:02:04

       You're gonna b-... Your heart's gonna beat, right?

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