The Joe Rogan ExperienceJoe Rogan Experience #1406 - Brian Redban
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150 min read · 30,305 words- 0:00 – 2:46
2020 feels like sci‑fi: Blade Runner predictions and the internet’s impact
- JVJamie Vernon
(instrumental music plays) Hello, Joe.
- BRBrian Redban
Hello, Joe.
- JVJamie Vernon
Happy New Year.
- BRBrian Redban
Happy 2020.
- JRJoe Rogan
Happy 2020. That doesn't sound real. 2020 sounds like a fake number. Like, we're in the year 2020, that's like a movie about the future.
- JVJamie Vernon
Yeah.
- JRJoe Rogan
So-
- BRBrian Redban
We've already gone past the Blade Runner date, you know?
- JRJoe Rogan
When was the Blade Runner date?
- BRBrian Redban
I think that was September or October of the ni- or last year.
- JRJoe Rogan
You know what's interesting about the estimations about the future? No one ever over est- or underestimates. Everyone overestimates, right?
- BRBrian Redban
Right.
- JRJoe Rogan
Like, Space 1999, remember that show?
- BRBrian Redban
Yep.
- JRJoe Rogan
That was a ... I'm older than you, but when that show was on TV, people thought that in 1999, we'd be just fucking flying around through space all the time and living out there. (laughs)
- BRBrian Redban
Yeah, like Buck Rogers stuff.
- JRJoe Rogan
Yeah. All those, all those shows, like ... So Blade Runner was what year?
- BRBrian Redban
Uh, this last year. 2019.
- JVJamie Vernon
2019.
- JRJoe Rogan
Wow. They missed that, huh?
- BRBrian Redban
They ... Yeah. Yeah. 'Cause it's funny when they show it in the movie, it shows like the background looks like, like cr- like s- flying cars and, like-
- JRJoe Rogan
Mm-hmm.
- BRBrian Redban
... crazy, you know, billboards and everything.
- JRJoe Rogan
I wonder where technology would be if it wasn't for the internet. Imagine if the internet was not possible, but technology still advanced electronically, like the cap- capability of, you know, showing higher resolution images and processing power and all that stuff kept moving, but they never figured out how to link it all up.
- BRBrian Redban
Yeah. That's weird.
- JRJoe Rogan
That's the scariest thing about the internet. It's almost like they put i- uh, like the future put ideas in people's heads and those people just started figuring out a way to connect everybody and then connect all this crazy computing power and all this information and you could translate it in real time and do it all around the world. And the ... What, what a better way to get the technology to advance. 'Cause if it wasn't for the internet, how much ... Where would we, we be at realistically?
- BRBrian Redban
We'd still be racist, we'd still be molesting people at war.
- JRJoe Rogan
Still have nuclear bombs.
- BRBrian Redban
We'd still have nuclear bombs.
- JRJoe Rogan
We'd still have radio, we'd still have TV.
- 2:46 – 6:03
Opinion mobs, Greta Thunberg backlash, and a tangent on autism and emotions
- JRJoe Rogan
M- I think most of us have some sort of a middle ground on almost everything, but that's not represented right now because right now it's like the most extreme people are the ones who are putting the most energy into talking about things. Like, this Greta Thunberg girl, do they have to go to her every time anybody says anything wrong about the climate? 'Cause apparently Meat Loaf said something.
- JVJamie Vernon
Oh, God.
- JRJoe Rogan
What did Meat Loaf say?
- JVJamie Vernon
Well, he said something about her specifically. I think he said ...
- JRJoe Rogan
Did he?
- JVJamie Vernon
Yeah.
- JRJoe Rogan
Oh, I thought he had a cli- I read ... The headline I read, I ... and I'm a fucking sucker for clickbait, it said, uh, he had climate denial comments.
- BRBrian Redban
Yeah, he just said something like, "Relax." He pretty much, like, kind of did that, that passive-aggressive thing, like, "Chill out, lady." Uh ...
- JRJoe Rogan
It's probably being funny.
- BRBrian Redban
Yeah.
- JRJoe Rogan
I mean, that's what we do. He took what we were-
- BRBrian Redban
I did feel (laughs) kind of bad for her. I think it's hilarious that it like ... Imagine all the other girls in school, what did they think about her, you know? Like ...
- JRJoe Rogan
(sighs) I have a friend who works with autistic people and she said she thinks she's autistic. She, he, he, she thinks that, um, this situation is like a really bright child that maybe is being, like, pushed in this direction to be this public figure. It's just, uh, her ... It's not that her opinions aren't valid, they definitely are valid, but it's just ... It's not healthy to take a young kid who's developing and then thrust them into the front of something like global climate change debate. It's so hostile. And then just instantaneously this kid is getting mocked and fucked with, and then they're asking her to make statements and, and, "How dare you?" That how dare you just plays over and over and over again. Like, she's not wrong, it's not wrong, her opinions, but it's like, she's really young to handle this. I don't know if she's autistic. Uh, she seems very, very smart, a lot of-
- BRBrian Redban
Is she, is she like this all day?
- JRJoe Rogan
That's a good question too.
- JVJamie Vernon
(laughs)
- JRJoe Rogan
Like, when you think of autism, don't you like almost immediately think they're probably really smart at something?
- BRBrian Redban
Oh, yeah. Absolutely.
- JRJoe Rogan
Is that from Rain Man or is that accurate?
- BRBrian Redban
No, that's accurate. That's why the government uses them to ... for their military, for like radars and stuff.
- JRJoe Rogan
Mm-hmm.
- BRBrian Redban
'Cause they're very smart at one certain thing or a few certain things.
- JRJoe Rogan
Mm.
- BRBrian Redban
You know, accuracy is another o- one that I think a lot of them are smart at.
- JRJoe Rogan
Dude, one time when I was really high, I had a crazy thought about autism and that all these spectrum disorders are eventually going to make emotions like a less significant aspect of being a human being. You know, some people, uh, like some people, they don't have any control over their emotions, right? They're just ... They, they fly off the handle, they're nutty, they, they cry, they scream. I- i- it's v- it varies, right? With all of us. Wouldn't it be like more efficient if that wasn't the case anymore? Like if there was a, like a- like an appendix, you know ... You know when we had an appendix? We had a organ that we used to use to pro- ... What is it? Like processing roots and shit or bark.
- BRBrian Redban
Bone. Was it?
- JRJoe Rogan
Was it bone?
- BRBrian Redban
Yeah, I thought it was like ...
- JVJamie Vernon
Breaking down bones.
- JRJoe Rogan
Something we don't use anymore because of our diet change.Like, imagine if your emotions become something like that. Like, some people have emotional flare-ups, they're like, "Oh, that guy blew out his appendix. He just had a fucking hissy fit at his brother's wedding."
- 6:03 – 8:07
Anxiety tools: Xanax myths, CBD routines, and pain relief experiences
- BRBrian Redban
Which one of the pills... Was it Xanax or Prozac makes you just numb to, like, thoughts? Is it Xanax, I think?
Xanax?
- JRJoe Rogan
Yeah. I think Xanax is the, the anti-relaxant one, and Prozac's a speed, right? Or anti-anxiety one. Xanax is anti-anxiety, right?
- BRBrian Redban
I think so, yeah. So, like, just pure Xanax all the time, like Xanax here-
- JRJoe Rogan
Somebody told me that when... If you take that, when you get off of it, it accentuates the anxiety. Like, once you get off, there's a little bit of a rubber band effect. But then s-... A doctor told me that's horseshit. So I'm gonna go with the doctor, but so many people th-... Maybe it's because they forgot how bad anxiety is, and then they get it back, and they're like, "Fuck," and you're like... Maybe because you took a break, and you, you know what it's like to not have anxiety, then the reality of being on the natch is just even more discomforting.
- BRBrian Redban
Lot of people take Xanax to come down from bad trips, or, like, if they get too stoned-
- JRJoe Rogan
Mm-hmm.
- BRBrian Redban
... or too, like, fucked up on mushrooms or something.
- JRJoe Rogan
Good call. (laughs)
- BRBrian Redban
Oh, yeah. I don't, I don't think I've ever done Xanax. Have you done Xanax?
- JRJoe Rogan
No.
- BRBrian Redban
(sighs)
- JRJoe Rogan
No. No, but I didn't even know that I had a problem with anxiety until I started taking CBD.
- BRBrian Redban
Oh, yeah.
- JRJoe Rogan
Once I started taking, uh, CBD oil, I was like, "Wow, I feel great." (laughs)
- BRBrian Redban
How much CBD... Like s-... What- what's your normal CBD? Like, what do you take? I do a lot of lotions.
- JRJoe Rogan
Um-
- BRBrian Redban
You take pills and stuff.
- JRJoe Rogan
... I use a bunch of different companies.
- BRBrian Redban
Mm-hmm.
- JRJoe Rogan
And a bunch of different kinds of stuff. Uh, some of them are gummies, um, but mostly I like oil. And, um, cbdMD is one of the sponsors. They sent me a bunch of their stuff. It's great, man. I squirt it under my tongue-
- BRBrian Redban
Yeah, I like that stuff.
- JRJoe Rogan
... and I just chill out. It just does something to you, where it's not getting you high, but it is giving you, like, this, uh, feeling of lightness. Just a little bit, just a little bit, just a little relax. And it's... You know, uh, Dave Foley had really fucked up arthritis, and CBD tincture, CBD oil completely fixed it, just oral CBD. He used to not be able to straighten his fingers out.
- BRBrian Redban
Hmm.
- JRJoe Rogan
Just from a... Fucking arthritis.
- BRBrian Redban
Yeah, I used it on my leg when I, uh, pulled my sciatica or whatever that shit's called.
- JRJoe Rogan
Yeah. (laughs)
- BRBrian Redban
And that helped with that, actually.
- JRJoe Rogan
Dude, I've done that many times, sciatica. Ugh.
- BRBrian Redban
I've never done that. That was one of the worst things ever, man.
- 8:07 – 11:33
Back fixes and biohacks: PRP/Regenokine, stem cells, and “liposuction six‑pack” jokes
- JRJoe Rogan
You know what it is? It's, uh... Most of the time, it's an injury in your back.
- BRBrian Redban
Uh-huh.
- JRJoe Rogan
And it goes down your leg.
- BRBrian Redban
Right.
- JRJoe Rogan
But what it is is your back, somewhere in your back, d-... Uh, d-... I'm, I'm, like, an expert on, um, being able to butcher scientific explanations for medical conditions, but-
- BRBrian Redban
Right.
- JRJoe Rogan
... if I was gonna do my best to get it right, I would say it's, uh, (laughs) your disc bulges out and s-... and hits the nerve, and it hurts. And the way it hurts, it goes down your leg, so you think, like, you pulled something in your leg. But it's really something in your back, you know? And, uh, I was experiencing it really recently, man, and I went and got... Do you know what Regenakyn is? I told you about that shit before, right?
- BRBrian Redban
Mm-mm.
- JRJoe Rogan
They used to do it in Germany. They, uh... It was a blood spinning proce-... They still do it in Germany, but now they do it in Santa Monica too. And it's a blood spinning procedure that's like platelet-rich plasma, but they put some other stuff in it. We've... I know we've discussed the science behind it. Anyway, it's amazing at that, at, like, relaxing all the area around a disc, and anything that's bulging sort of goes back in and fixes itself. It really can happen. Like, you, you don't necessarily have to get surgery with a lot of people. But some people that have your situation, or my situation, they get surgery, because the, the discs keeps poking out, and they say, "We're just gonna cut a piece of that off."
- BRBrian Redban
Oof.
- JRJoe Rogan
And it can, it can help you.
- BRBrian Redban
I think mine might, might be stemming from my bad knee somehow.
- JRJoe Rogan
Oh, yeah, for sure.
- BRBrian Redban
Because mine, mine happened right after I injured my knee again, uh, the other couple months ago.
- JRJoe Rogan
Yeah, you're probably favoring one side.
- BRBrian Redban
Yeah.
- JRJoe Rogan
You know? If you favor one...
- BRBrian Redban
It's definitely weaker. Like, I need to... Is that... The, the growth h- hormone, do you s-... Do you have to... Still have to go to, like... Not growth, uh, what... The baby, dead baby juice, uh-
- JRJoe Rogan
Stem cells?
- BRBrian Redban
Stem cells. Do you still have to go to, like, Mexico for that? Or do you just-
- JRJoe Rogan
No, you can do it in America, for sure. And as an added bonus, they'll do it, uh, uh, make it out of your own fat.
- BRBrian Redban
Oh, right?
- JRJoe Rogan
Yeah, bro. They'll lipo you a little bit.
- BRBrian Redban
Oh.
- JRJoe Rogan
Get them to sculpt you some six-pack. (laughs)
- BRBrian Redban
I'm gonna have a lot. I'm gonna have a lot.
- JRJoe Rogan
You're gonna have so much stem cells. (laughs)
- BRBrian Redban
(laughs) Yeah. I'm gonna start selling it.
- JRJoe Rogan
We'll see you at the store, you'll be, like, 150 pounds. Everybody'll be like, "What happened, Red Van?" "Stem cells."
- BRBrian Redban
Yeah.
- 11:33 – 22:21
Epstein cell photos: inconsistencies, ligature questions, and “we need Eddie Bravo” energy
- JRJoe Rogan
Jamie, what were you gonna tell me about Epstein right before the show started-
- BRBrian Redban
I was just thinking about it.
- JRJoe Rogan
... but you stopped?
- BRBrian Redban
I was gonna tell you this. All right, so-
- JRJoe Rogan
How are you gonna tell me?
- BRBrian Redban
Let me draw a picture of it.
- JRJoe Rogan
Uh, something happen?
- BRBrian Redban
I wa-... Well, I woke up to seeing... Well, you know, last night, during... The Golden Globes was going on, there were some jokes going on by Ricky Gervais that we can probably talk about later, but, uh, 60 Minutes was probably going on on a different channel at the same time, and they had, uh-... a report with some new evidence that nobody has seen yet.
- JRJoe Rogan
Oh, geez.
- BRBrian Redban
They have some, uh, autopsy photos and photos from inside his cell.
- JRJoe Rogan
Whoa.
- BRBrian Redban
Yeah, the photos-
- JRJoe Rogan
Oh, I'll show this.
- BRBrian Redban
Are the photos online?
Yeah, yeah. I'll get them over here.
- JRJoe Rogan
Of course they are.
- BRBrian Redban
Yeah, I didn't know that this was just released. I saw this last night-
- JRJoe Rogan
(sighs)
- BRBrian Redban
... and I saw one of the photos, and it looks real.
So I watched the 15 minutes that they put together, which is mostly just about, like, the, uh, incident in the, in the cell and, and surrounding it. (sighs) I'm just gonna show you the pictures though because we can't watch their thing. Let me try to get the 13 images because they're all...
- JRJoe Rogan
Am I scared?
- BRBrian Redban
No, I mean, it's just, uh-
- JRJoe Rogan
I'm scared already. I'm scared already because of, uh, Iran.
- BRBrian Redban
All right, the pictures are up.
- JRJoe Rogan
I don't wanna be scared of this video of them whacking this dude. You know they whacked him? Yes. Hun-... That's 100%. The fact that they thought they can get away with that, that's so crazy. Like, that is such a crazy thing to try to get (laughs) away with, this gigantic international case. "Hey, what happened to the cameras?" "Oh, fucking broke, man. I don't know. Sucks. Guy hung himself."
- BRBrian Redban
They need, they needed a couple days to make the videos and stuff like that.
- JRJoe Rogan
Bro, he tried... Yeah, exactly. That's the problem with today.
- BRBrian Redban
These are so fake.
- JRJoe Rogan
He tried to hang himself before.
- BRBrian Redban
It was fucking nuts.
- 22:21 – 27:34
Golden Globes scorched earth: Ricky Gervais vs. Hollywood virtue signaling
- BRBrian Redban
That's what... So that's what Ricky Gervais was joking about last night.
Oh, of course he was.
Uh, did you watch that? Because that area-
- JRJoe Rogan
Of course he was. No, but I did see the one clip that somebody put on the internet about him saying, uh, "Don't virtue signal. Just come out here and get your little prize and go fuck off, because nobody cares about your opinion." I was like, "Thank you. Thank you, Ricky. Thank you." Thank God. That guy swings. He's out there swinging from the hip, chin up, doesn't give a fuck, telling it like it is. I love it.
- BRBrian Redban
He went after Apple-
- JRJoe Rogan
Did they show Tim Cook's face? I wanna-
- BRBrian Redban
... in front of Tim Cook. They showed Tim Cook's face.
- JRJoe Rogan
Dude! How crazy was that shit?
- BRBrian Redban
(laughs)
- JRJoe Rogan
He went after Apple, then he said if ISIS opened up a studio, y'all be sending your resumes. Is that what he said? Something along those lines?
- BRBrian Redban
Yeah, yeah, yeah. You'd all be like, get a streaming service, you'll all be contacting your agents or something like that.
- JRJoe Rogan
Yeah, that's what he said. Like, fuck, man. Good for him.
- BRBrian Redban
So those are all pre-written, right? 'Cause they had to have those cuts ready to go and-
- JRJoe Rogan
I don't know, man. He's so badass.
- BRBrian Redban
... they just went for it?
- JRJoe Rogan
He might be able to do whatever the fuck he wants, you know? He's Ricky Gervais. He's got, he's got a, the, the ability to probably say, "Oh, I'll do it, but I'll do it this way and only this way." And they're like, "Okay, Ricky, we love you. We love you. I, we know you wouldn't do anything to jeopardize our amazing organization, and we, we all love working with you here at the Golden Gloves. And it's fun. I mean, you stir people up, but everybody knows you're a good guy." (laughs) And then he goes and hits them with genocide talk and just-
- BRBrian Redban
(laughs)
- JRJoe Rogan
... like, "Hey, hey, hey! Apple must have been so pissed! We were just getting away with using all that slave labor and nobody even noticed!"
- BRBrian Redban
(laughs)
- JRJoe Rogan
(laughs) That's... I mean, it's another thing, like this murder, right? It's like, that's just how everything was done. That's just how everything was done. They s- that's how they whacked everybody, and that was how you got things built cheap. It, they used slave labor, but nobody knew. Nobody really understood until you saw things like Foxconn. You were like, "Wait a minute. This is a good setup?"You guys are working 16 hours a day, you sleep in the building. This is a good place? This is good?
- BRBrian Redban
Yeah, those stories up here, the Amazon workers, like, running around and peeing themselves so they can-
- JRJoe Rogan
Oh, yeah.
- BRBrian Redban
... get shit done quick.
- JRJoe Rogan
Yeah, they have some crazy countdown thing that goes when they get an order, and they have to run to go get it. Probably a fun job if you're into losing weight.
- BRBrian Redban
(laughs)
- JRJoe Rogan
Put on some ankle weights and shit, maybe a weight vest, and just run around that thing. You'd get a fucking vicious workout. That's making lemonades out of lemons, right?
- BRBrian Redban
That's right, Joe. Everything's a workout.
- JRJoe Rogan
(laughs)
- BRBrian Redban
(laughs) You could be working as a waiter at Applebee's and that's a workout.
- JRJoe Rogan
That's right. Think about it, man. Just w- with heavy weights around your, your waist that no one would notice, just make it...
- 27:34 – 44:04
Iran panic spiral: Twitter threats, WWIII memes, and unchecked executive power
- JRJoe Rogan
You know? We have weird things, but we, everything's changed, it's all changed now. Everything's changed. Okay, relax. We're okay. We're gonna be all right. The world's fucked. We're fucked. It's all, it's all ending. I'm a little nervous about Iran though. That seems like real shit. That, that makes me wanna get educated on the subject so I could really freak out.
- BRBrian Redban
The w- the one thing that made me feel better is when they were screaming, "Death to America, death to America" recently. The president of Iran was like, "Well, when we say death to America, we don't mean, uh, the citizens. We like the citizens. We're talking about fuck you, Donald Trump," you know?
- JRJoe Rogan
Really?
- BRBrian Redban
(laughs) Yeah. But they've been saying that for a long time. That death to America chant, that's been around.
- JRJoe Rogan
Right. That's a tough sell. (laughs)
- BRBrian Redban
Yeah.
- JRJoe Rogan
We know what you're saying. You're saying death to America. Okay, like, that's one thing that you don't wanna be misconstrued. If you wanna fucking make signs and yell, like, you don't, like, you know, like, "Hey, hey, we're not talking death death, guys," right? Oh yeah, definitely not death death. Let's go out and scream, "Death to America." Everyone's gonna know. Like, that would be the worst way to communicate something. Like, why... If you don't really think that, why would you say, "Death to the American political system. Death to the American military complex." Not death to America.
- BRBrian Redban
Right.
- JRJoe Rogan
Death to America is everybody. How have they got us all mixed... We don't have nothing to do with this, guys. We're just over here chilling. How have they got us messed up in some international conflict that you actually have to think about might come a-knocking on your door? How, what, what fucking ineptitude mixed with scumbaggery led us to this position? Who did, who did this? Is it the Iranian guys? Did Trump do something he shouldn't have done?
- BRBrian Redban
Doesn't it seem weird timing though with this whole, uh, impeachment shit? Like-
- JRJoe Rogan
It's all weird, dude. It's all weird. The, the, the fact that Trump can kill people.
- BRBrian Redban
(laughs)
- JRJoe Rogan
Just understand how crazy it is that you got a guy like Trump who could just go, "Send it in, send the missile." Just shoot missiles. He could just... Listen, man. Don't give me that power either. Don't give anybody that power for sure. But a guy like Trump, a guy who is, uh, uh, famous for being mean to people on a reality show. (laughs)
- BRBrian Redban
(laughs)
- JRJoe Rogan
You're fired. Famous for being a baller. I mean, that's what he's famous for. He was in... That's the crazy thing. Like, he was in rap songs all the time in like a complimentary way. Like, that guy's life has gone through an arch.
- BRBrian Redban
Home Alone 2.
- JRJoe Rogan
He was in Home Alone 2.
- BRBrian Redban
(laughs)
- JRJoe Rogan
And in Canada, those silly fucks, they edited it out. The CBC edited out the Donald Trump scene because it's offensive. Offensive as...... to us who, who really enjoy films without monsters. That's history. Are you gonna go into fucking Naked Gun and get rid of OJ? What are you gonna do? Y- what are you gonna do? You gonna take OJ out of the NFL archives? What are you gonna do?
- BRBrian Redban
(laughs)
- JRJoe Rogan
No, this is life. L- you can't make life prettier by pulling Donald Trump out of Home Alone. You're supposed to look at it and go, "Holy shit, who would've thought that fucking guy-"
- BRBrian Redban
(laughs)
- JRJoe Rogan
... "... would be the president one day and would be killing dudes and maybe starting World War III like a goddamn Stephen King novel?" You know, Stephen King's freaked out by Trump.
- BRBrian Redban
Hmm.
- JRJoe Rogan
"These media posts..." Oh, what happened there? "These media posts will serve as notification to the United States Congress that should Iran strike any US person or target, the United States will cli- quickly and fully strike back and perhaps in a disproportionate manner. Such legal notice is not required, but it is given nevertheless." Dude, fuck this.
- BRBrian Redban
(laughs)
- JRJoe Rogan
That, I don't like to see on Twitter. That seems so bizarre. It almost seems like the, the, the simulation theory has hired, like, comedy writers-
- BRBrian Redban
(laughs)
- JRJoe Rogan
... to come in and subtly fuck with everybody. 'Cause he can just put that on Twitter? How can he just put that on Twitter? Like, I thought there was a series of checks and balances.
- BRBrian Redban
(laughs)
- 44:04 – 53:42
Conspiracy season: Kevin Spacey videos, accuser deaths, and “aliens live among us” headlines
- BRBrian Redban
You saw this crazy... This is... I feel like this is-
- JRJoe Rogan
Yeah, Kevin Spacey.
- BRBrian Redban
... in some way related.
Kevin Spacey?
How?
Yeah, yeah.
This crazy video he put on his YouTube channel.
- JRJoe Rogan
Yeah. Well, this is... He keeps doing that character. People-
- BRBrian Redban
And people keep on dying.
- JRJoe Rogan
Bro.
- BRBrian Redban
(laughs)
- JRJoe Rogan
That is-
- BRBrian Redban
(laughs)
(laughs)
- JRJoe Rogan
That's a little creepy, too.
- BRBrian Redban
The same day this came out.
(laughs)
- JRJoe Rogan
Right, but how did the guy die? Suicide? Was it suicide?
- BRBrian Redban
Suicided. Do you see the list of how many people have died?
- JRJoe Rogan
Suicide. What, that were involved with Kevin Spacey?
- BRBrian Redban
Yeah, that-
- JRJoe Rogan
Oh, my God. Is it a lot?
- BRBrian Redban
Yeah, there's like three or four.
Four, yeah.
Or something like that.
All of his accusers, I think. Like, all the cases are going up.
- JRJoe Rogan
Imagine if it's the actor from Game... From House of Cards, the actor that was his assistant that killed people for him.
- BRBrian Redban
Uh-uh.
- JRJoe Rogan
Imagine if that actor-
- BRBrian Redban
Doug Sandberg? (laughs)
- 53:42 – 59:58
Harvey Weinstein, transactional sex, and why legalized prostitution stays taboo
- JRJoe Rogan
Harvey Weinstein indicted on new sex crimes in Los Angeles.
- BRBrian Redban
He just went on trial today in New York on his other charges and these new charges just dropped in an hour ago.
- JRJoe Rogan
Jesus.
- BRBrian Redban
Um, what kind of sex crimes? No.
- JRJoe Rogan
Sexual assault charges. One woman, sexually assaulting another in separate incidents over a two-day period in 2013. (deep breath)
- BRBrian Redban
He allegedly raped a woman. Who knows how ...
- JRJoe Rogan
Yeah.
- BRBrian Redban
Okay, so he still has charges against him. I thought for some reason all his charges had been-
- JRJoe Rogan
Oh, no, yeah, he's on trial in New York, and this is a separate thing here in LA. You know what they should do with him? They should get him. They say, "Listen, we'll- we're willing to be more lenient on you, but w- we want to get you in a room, um, uh, just clad in jumpsuit and we're gonna give you a high dose of MDMA, and we're just gonna talk to you, Harvey, about how you feel about people and why you lash out and how did this all get started. What's true and what's not true? What did you do to people? And w- what- what did people willingly do?"... and is that, is that the same thing? That's where it gets weird. It's like, sex as a transaction is one of the w- it's, it's one of the weirder things about people is that you can do that. Like, it's almost like everyone's a drug dealer, right? Like, if someone wants to fuck you, the drug is sex, like that feeling of sex. Like, th- th- people love it. They love it. Everybody loves it. So if someone knew that other people love it, and they can get something to let those other people do it, and we go, "No, you can't. You can't." Why can't you? Th- but you're doing it anyway just by virtue of your looks, right? If you're just, if you're just trying to be successful on being good-looking, in a lot of ways, you're c- it's like the entry-level of that game. Like, you're doing ... You're looking good so that people give you things. You're looking good so that people pay you if you wanna be, like, a professional hot chick or a model or ... You know, you're d- you're looking good, and then people pay you because you're looking good. And we're all like, we have no problem with that. Every- everyone's feels no problem with that. But if you go and do that and then use your body ... Say, "I like looking good 'cause I can get things, but if I use my body I can get more things, so I've been using my body." "What? You can't use your body." You can't. What is that? We can't ... Imagine if gold diggers, it was encouraged and guys liked it too, and there were, like, a bunch of old dudes that didn't care, and then, th- it was all free on the internet. Like, th- everybody would give out information. You just ... "I'll take care of your rent. Come over here and suck this Johnson." If we just made deals, like transactional deals, keep it clean.
- BRBrian Redban
That's pretty much what girls do.
- JRJoe Rogan
But, no, but you can't do it legally is my point. Is like-
- BRBrian Redban
Well, you can with, like, webcam stuff.
- JRJoe Rogan
There's so many lazy girls out there that don't wanna h- take a job. If they can get 2,000 bucks for blowing some old dude, they'd be in on that in a heartbeat.
- BRBrian Redban
We still have them in Vegas. (laughs)
- JRJoe Rogan
(laughs) There's nothing, there's nothing wrong with that though. That's my position. Nothing wrong with that.
- BRBrian Redban
Do you think we'll, we'll see that legal soon? Like, that, that should be something soon, no?
- JRJoe Rogan
No, nobody wants their daughter to be a whore. What the fuck are you talking about?
- BRBrian Redban
(laughs)
- JRJoe Rogan
(laughs) But it's one of those things. I mean, it's a hypocritical even ... Y- of course it should be legal. Everything should be legal. Of course you don't want your daughter to be a hooker. But of course everything should be legal that doesn't ... See, if it's illegal, people are still gonna want it. So if they're gonna want it, then you're gonna get it where it's illegal, and you're gonna get criminals, people that can go to jail. They're gonna be the ones that are providing these girls with protection. They're gonna be the ones that also dictate how much money the girls make and how much money they take, and we all know what happens there. I mean, that's Pimp 101. Uh, I mean, aah, they, what they're ... We've all seen Pimps Up, Hoes Down, right?
- BRBrian Redban
Mm-hmm.
- JRJoe Rogan
Right? Right? I mean, there was one, American Pimp. Was that the other one?
- BRBrian Redban
Yeah, that's, yeah.
- JRJoe Rogan
That was a great one too. The, th- this is ... If it was legal, these girls would be protected. They'd probably, uh, have the exact same amount of people that were paying for it. I mean, actually more would pay for it, for sure, if it became legal. What am I talking about?
- JVJamie Vernon
Yeah. That spot next to the Comedy Store used to be a brothel.
- JRJoe Rogan
Oh.
- JVJamie Vernon
Can you imagine if it still was?
- JRJoe Rogan
What, Katana?
- JVJamie Vernon
Yeah.
- JRJoe Rogan
Katana was a brothel?
- JVJamie Vernon
I had to watch that, the Sunset Strip documentary. It's the-
- 59:58 – 1:17:47
Mexico travel & ancient civilizations: Chichén Itzá, human sacrifice, and big words
- JVJamie Vernon
Do you ever travel to-
- JRJoe Rogan
Puerto Vallarta.
- BRBrian Redban
Do you ever get to travel to Mexico?
- JRJoe Rogan
I love Mexico.
- BRBrian Redban
What's your favorite part?
- JRJoe Rogan
Puerto Vallarta?
- BRBrian Redban
Yeah.
- JRJoe Rogan
Yeah. I love it there. Do you know what else is dope is, uh, Chichen Itza. The, uh, that's the Mayan ruins in the Yucatan. Pff- fuck, man. Th- that, that was one where I was walking around it going, "H- what? Who? How?" Like, "What, what were you guys like?" (laughs) You guys built giant, huge stone structures that mimic the cosmos. You had specific rooms-
- JVJamie Vernon
Wow.
- JRJoe Rogan
... that were designed for LSD use. They would take some, uh ... They got, at least according to my guide, he was saying that they had some plant that had lysergic acid in it. There's a bunch of different plants like, um ... (sighs) Where do they get them from? Morning glory seeds. Morning glory seeds apparently you can get acid from. And, uh, they would take whatever this ... They don't know exactly what the substance was and they would trip balls.... but he showed me all these different places where they did, like, sacri- human sacrifice, where they, uh, had this game. And the, the game, what was really crazy was he was ... That's the human sacrifice spot. They would put people right on that spot and cut their fucking heart out.
- JVJamie Vernon
Wow.
- BRBrian Redban
Sh- yeah.
- JRJoe Rogan
Holla. Holla! (slaps desk) And look at the dude, the dude's face that you would kill s- someone on. Like, it's so creepy.
- BRBrian Redban
(laughs)
- JVJamie Vernon
It's so cool.
- BRBrian Redban
What do you got for me?
- JRJoe Rogan
Imagine they're pulling you over there and laying you down on that fucking thing to cut your heart out.
- BRBrian Redban
Fuck no.
- JRJoe Rogan
That was a weird thing that people used to like to do, human sacrifice. You know? Like, um, do you know about the, uh, Mexican pyramid? The Aztec pyramid of, uh, d- ... I think you say Teotihuacan? Do you know how to say that?
- BRBrian Redban
Teo- Teo- ... No. I'm not saying it, not trying it.
- JRJoe Rogan
Teotihuacan? See if you can get an audio so we can l- listen to how, how you're pronouncing that word. But that temple, when they, um, built it, afterwards they slaughtered all of the slaves. How do you say that? Here we goes. Talk to professor, how to pronounce. Here we go. Give me it. Teotihuacan. Damn, what a dope language.
- BRBrian Redban
(laughs) Teo-
- JRJoe Rogan
What a dope language.
- BRBrian Redban
Teo-
- JRJoe Rogan
Teotihuacan.
- BRBrian Redban
Teo-
- JRJoe Rogan
People, people just like, when they believed in magic, they had cooler ways of describing things. Teotihuacan. This, I mean, how are you, like, li- stop and look at that word. How were you living 10,000 years ago, barely scraping by, do you have the time to come up with that many words, like that many, that many n- sounds for one word? Teotihuacan. You know? What's your name? Jamie Vernon. Super simple. Comes off the tongue, zero problems.
- BRBrian Redban
Same amount of sounds, Jamie Vernon.
- JRJoe Rogan
Where do you live? Uh-
- BRBrian Redban
Ohio.
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