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Joe Rogan Experience #1408 - Ed Calderon

Ed Calderon is a security specialist and combatives instructor with over 10 years experience in public safety along the northern border area of Mexico. Follow him online @EdsManifesto http://edsmanifesto.com

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Jan 7, 20201h 55mWatch on YouTube ↗

At a glance

WHAT IT’S REALLY ABOUT

Inside Mexico’s Cartel War: Power, Politics, Lithium, and Narcos

  1. Joe Rogan and former Mexican law-enforcement officer Ed Calderon examine the current state of cartel violence in Mexico, including roadblocks, kidnappings, and the Mormon family massacre that drew U.S. attention.
  2. Calderon explains how cartels have evolved into paramilitary organizations embedded in politics, business, and communities, and how U.S. drug demand, firearms, and money fuel the crisis.
  3. They discuss the proposed U.S. terrorist designation for cartels, the deep corruption within Mexican institutions, and the strategic importance of resources like lithium that attract foreign and criminal interests.
  4. The conversation explores possible futures—including drug legalization, changes in U.S. policy, and even potential U.S. military intervention—while contrasting U.S. perceptions of Mexico with on‑the‑ground realities.

IDEAS WORTH REMEMBERING

5 ideas

Avoid cartel roadblocks and high‑risk regions whenever possible.

Calderon says the safest choice is not to travel through cartel‑dominated areas at all; if confronted with a roadblock, slowing down and complying is generally safer than trying to run it, as cartels often shoot vehicles that flee.

Cartels are now paramilitary, not just criminal gangs.

Groups like the Jalisco New Generation Cartel run training camps, use drones, armored vehicles, encrypted communications, and community‑policing tactics, resembling insurgent or guerrilla forces more than traditional mafias.

U.S. drug demand and gun flow are structural drivers of Mexico’s violence.

Calderon stresses that a destabilized Mexico and a thriving U.S. black market are two sides of the same system: U.S. cash and firearms flow south, while drugs—now heavily fentanyl‑based—flow north, making this a joint U.S.–Mexico problem.

Legalization of some drugs is likely a necessary part of any solution.

Based on his experience destroying marijuana fields, Calderon believes outlawing relatively low‑harm drugs like cannabis is a “fruitless fight”; partial legalization could erode cartel profits, though fentanyl and heroin remain much harder policy problems.

Designating cartels as terrorists would have far‑reaching consequences.

Such a label could justify U.S. military strikes, financial warfare, and stricter banking rules, but would also strengthen asylum claims for Mexicans fleeing violence and potentially pull banks and governments into “funding terrorism” liability.

WORDS WORTH SAVING

5 quotes

“People think that’s a Mexican problem. It’s a U.S.–Mexico problem.”

Ed Calderon

“If I had a white flag, I would hand it over to you… it’s a useless fight.”

Ed Calderon, on the traditional drug war

“They defeated the Mexican army in Sinaloa.”

Ed Calderon, describing the release of El Chapo’s son

“This problem doesn’t respect a border wall. Submarines will go around it, tunnels will go under it, drones will fly over it.”

Ed Calderon

“I think in my lifetime there’s gonna be some sort of armed intervention in Mexico at some point.”

Ed Calderon

Cartel roadblocks, kidnappings, and everyday violence in northern MexicoThe Mormon family massacre and contested territories for drug routes and lithiumDebate over designating Mexican cartels as terrorist organizationsCorruption within Mexican government, police, and military institutionsCartel evolution into paramilitary, community‑embedded power structuresU.S. drug policy, demand, and cross‑border cartel expansionSocial media censorship and public perception of cartel violence

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