Joe Rogan Experience #1412 - Jimmy Dore

1. 0:00 – 15:00

   Oh, here we go.…

   1. JRJoe Rogan0:00

      Oh, here we go. (fists thudding) Good? Hello, Jimmy.

   2. JDJimmy Dore0:06

      Hi, Joe.

   3. JRJoe Rogan0:07

      What's going on, buddy?

   4. JDJimmy Dore0:08

      (laughs)

   5. JRJoe Rogan0:08

      Good to see you.

   6. JDJimmy Dore0:09

      Good to see you too.

   7. JRJoe Rogan0:09

      What's happening?

   8. JDJimmy Dore0:10

      Well, we were just talking about the, uh, uh, the Air Force admitting that their pilots had seen UFOs. And you were telling me you interviewed one of those-

   9. JRJoe Rogan0:18

      Yes.

   10. JDJimmy Dore0:18

       ... pilots.

   11. JRJoe Rogan0:19

       I interviewed Commander Fravor, and he was saying that this, this-

   12. JDJimmy Dore0:23

       Chocolate is be- my favorite.

   13. JRJoe Rogan0:25

       (laughs) Ah. (laughs)

   14. JDJimmy Dore0:25

       Come on.

   15. JRJoe Rogan0:26

       It's with an R, Fravor.

   16. JDJimmy Dore0:28

       Fra- oh, Fravor.

   17. JRJoe Rogan0:29

       Fravor.

   18. JDJimmy Dore0:30

       Okay.

   19. JRJoe Rogan0:30

       Um, he was ta- I mean, he was one of the guys that actually went to... What did- what is the word they do when they scramble and go to try to figure out what the fuck something is? But they, they monitored this thing, they saw it with their eyes, they saw it with their equipment, it was actively jamming the radar, whatever this thing was.

   20. JDJimmy Dore0:49

       Oh.

   21. JRJoe Rogan0:49

       It was shaped like a Tic Tac, and it moved so fast you couldn't track it with the human eye. They said it went from th- I think they said some, some impossible number, like 60,000 feet down to 200 feet in less than a second. Like, whatever you could tra-

   22. JDJimmy Dore1:02

       Right. Mm-hmm.

   23. JRJoe Rogan1:02

       You know a radar does a blip, blip, blip, blip.

   24. JDJimmy Dore1:05

       Mm-hmm.

   25. JRJoe Rogan1:05

       They don't know how fast it actually went, they just know it, it went this insane distance in less than a second, less than a, a radar jump. And s-

   26. JDJimmy Dore1:16

       And s-

   27. JRJoe Rogan1:16

       And it would, it would... They da- ha- had observed them in that area without his knowledge, like, uh, other Air Force pilots had observed them-

   28. JDJimmy Dore1:24

       Mm-hmm.

   29. JRJoe Rogan1:24

       ... and then had, you know, brought it up the top of the food chain, but it wasn't something that got distributed to everybody until he saw it. When he saw it, he was like, "What in the fuck am I looking at here?" And they're like, "Well, yeah, we've been seeing these things." And this thing, w- with no active propulsion system that you could recognize. There was nothing around.

   30. JDJimmy Dore1:43

       Right.
2. 15:00 – 30:00

   Wow. …

   1. JDJimmy Dore15:00

      pot, right? Just to let him know everything that's happening with me chemically and, um, he said that, uh ... He said, "Yeah, I did it." I said, "Did you ever smoke?" He goes, "Yeah, I did it once in Vietnam." He said they would have a- a helicopter circling the medical, he was a doctor in the medical, and so you could always hear it constantly searching for t- whatever, people coming to get us. And then all of the sudden, I didn't hear it and it had crashed, right? So I had to go help the guy and he said, "I had just smoked pot," and as a doctor you have to be able to disassociate from what you're doing and he said, "I couldn't." And he said, "So when I came up on him and I could tell this guy was gonna be crippled for the r- and I couldn't ... It- it would mess me up." He goes, "So I never smoked pot again."

   2. JRJoe Rogan15:39

      Wow.

   3. JDJimmy Dore15:39

      And I could see, I ... Could you imagine, like you're new to pot? You know how it makes you sense things extra? When- especially when you first start?

   4. JRJoe Rogan15:47

      Yeah.

   5. JDJimmy Dore15:47

      You know how you just extra sen- and then you walk up on a scene like that, like, oh my God!

   6. JRJoe Rogan15:52

      Oh.

   7. JDJimmy Dore15:53

      I couldn't imagine that. So that, yeah, I- I probably would stop smoking pot. (laughs)

   8. JRJoe Rogan15:57

      Yeah, yeah, that, I mean, that's, uh, talk about bad trips.

   9. JDJimmy Dore16:00

      Bad, bad trip.

   10. JRJoe Rogan16:01

       That's as bad as it gets.

   11. JDJimmy Dore16:02

       Yeah.

   12. JRJoe Rogan16:03

       Walk up on someone who just crashed in a helicopter in the middle of war and you- you're- you're high as fuck and you realize he's crippled.

   13. JDJimmy Dore16:10

       So let me ask you a question. When- when you ... When I would travel out of the country, I would always think that, oh, I get like a little cold, flu thing every time I travel out of the country. Like, I would get night sweats and I would kinda get headaches and I would feel a little fluey, you know?

   14. JRJoe Rogan16:26

       Mm-hmm.

   15. JDJimmy Dore16:28

       And then, uh, I got this dental implant and so I didn't s- I- so I want ... You know, they say don't smoke or whatever, so I'm like gonna be extra good, I didn't smoke for a whole week. I felt like I felt when I go to Europe and I'm like-

   16. JRJoe Rogan16:40

       So you're saying you have a physical addiction?

   17. JDJimmy Dore16:41

       Yes! I was like, no way!

   18. JRJoe Rogan16:43

       Wow.

   19. JDJimmy Dore16:44

       Did you ... I mean, that's why I wanted to ask you, does that ever happen to you when you travel outside the country?

   20. JRJoe Rogan16:47

       No. No, but some people do have that apparently.

   21. JDJimmy Dore16:50

       Yes, like night sweats. It's the worst!

   22. JRJoe Rogan16:52

       Night sweats?

   23. JDJimmy Dore16:53

       You wake up and your- you know as- as soon as I take this cover off, it's gonna be freezing.

   24. JRJoe Rogan16:57

       Really?

   25. JDJimmy Dore16:57

       Yeah. So I gotta-

   26. JRJoe Rogan16:58

       So like-

   27. JDJimmy Dore16:58

       ... get up and change my t-sh- I sor- I sleep in a t-shirt and, uh, and jeans.

   28. JRJoe Rogan17:02

       I didn't know that.

   29. JDJimmy Dore17:02

       And, uh ... (laughs)

   30. JRJoe Rogan17:04

       (laughs)
3. 30:00 – 45:00

   People don't take any…

   1. JDJimmy Dore30:00

      too, which is a rough spot. Like, it's fucking cold there. Mm-hmm.

   2. JRJoe Rogan30:04

      People don't take any bullshit. It's a different kind of thing.

   3. JDJimmy Dore30:07

      Mm-hmm.

   4. JRJoe Rogan30:07

      You know, like, those are the kind of places that make great comics. Like, fucking col- like Boston, same shit.

   5. JDJimmy Dore30:13

      Yes.

   6. JRJoe Rogan30:13

      New York, fuck, fuck, fuck, fuck, fuck, then cold and-

   7. JDJimmy Dore30:15

      You need a little, need a little misery and a little hate.

   8. JRJoe Rogan30:17

      Yeah. Hong Kong, "Fuck you," and then, and then-

   9. JDJimmy Dore30:19

      You need a-

   10. JRJoe Rogan30:19

       Yes.

   11. JDJimmy Dore30:20

       You- eh, there has to be a need for comedy.

   12. JRJoe Rogan30:21

       Yes.

   13. JDJimmy Dore30:22

       It's like I, like I was, as I said, I was just in Hawaii. We did shows there. I'm like, "Man, these people are laid back." (laughs)

   14. JRJoe Rogan30:26

       Yeah. There's not a lot of great comics. There's a few good comics that come from Hawaii, but not a lot.

   15. JDJimmy Dore30:32

       Yeah.

   16. JRJoe Rogan30:32

       Not a lot.

   17. JDJimmy Dore30:32

       It's... (laughs) ... it's not- you gotta- it's hard to be upset.

   18. JRJoe Rogan30:36

       They have a lot of local humor. Like, the comics from Hawaii, they- I- I've- I've seen some comics from Hawaii, they- and they talk about local stuff.

   19. JDJimmy Dore30:45

       Mm-hmm.

   20. JRJoe Rogan30:45

       You know?

   21. JDJimmy Dore30:46

       Yeah. Uh- just like a cruise ship.

   22. JRJoe Rogan30:47

       Yeah, sort of.

   23. JDJimmy Dore30:48

       Yeah, kind of like that.

   24. JRJoe Rogan30:49

       But they're-

   25. JDJimmy Dore30:49

       Yeah, like the guys- the guys who, uh, live there, they do their whole act as local.

   26. JRJoe Rogan30:53

       Yeah, and a lot of times, they do, like, a morning DJ guy-

   27. JDJimmy Dore30:56

       Yeah.

   28. JRJoe Rogan30:56

       ... too, or something like that.

   29. JDJimmy Dore30:57

       Yeah.

   30. JRJoe Rogan30:57

       And they- just-
4. 45:00 – 1:00:00

   Mm-hmm. …

   1. JRJoe Rogan45:00

      fucking, uh, YouTube channel. They have 500,000 subscribers, they could use it as, uh-

   2. JDJimmy Dore45:04

      Mm-hmm.

   3. JRJoe Rogan45:04

      ... a men's rights channel. They can use it as, uh... You know, they could just ch- switch it over and say it's not about Jimmy Dore anymore, now it's about Bill Burr. And they, they just use your content, which is not legal. And I was like... And they were doing it while we were doing the show. So while we were doing the show, they were making clips and then uploading-

   4. JDJimmy Dore45:21

      And then-

   5. JRJoe Rogan45:21

      ... them as we were live.

   6. JDJimmy Dore45:22

      While you're still going?

   7. JRJoe Rogan45:23

      Yes.

   8. JDJimmy Dore45:24

      So they're doing it in real time?

   9. JRJoe Rogan45:25

      So...

   10. JDJimmy Dore45:26

       Okay. I got it. Wow.

   11. JRJoe Rogan45:28

       So we, we realized that those can be taken down, and then we started doing it ourselves, and then we realized, like, the only way to really stop them from doing it in real time is to do it... Like, film it, have the podcast filmed, and then have the clips cut up and then release it.

   12. JDJimmy Dore45:45

       Okay. Oh, okay.

   13. JRJoe Rogan45:46

       That's one.

   14. JDJimmy Dore45:47

       Okay.

   15. JRJoe Rogan45:47

       That's a big one. The other one was copyright. There's a real-

   16. JDJimmy Dore45:50

       Do you ever-

   17. JRJoe Rogan45:50

       ... problem with copyright strikes. Like, if you get three strikes, they fucking pull your channel.

   18. JDJimmy Dore45:55

       So did you ever get one?

   19. JRJoe Rogan45:56

       That's a real pro- We've gotten them. We've gotten them before. For shit that we show... We've gotten them for- before for shit that we show in the corner of the screen. Like, the corner of the screen, like a photograph, or a video, or a little tiny thing in the corner of a screen. We had one where we got one from a fucking... A guy took a film, uh, from his f- uh, like it was like a cellphone of a, a satellite being launched. Like, the... And we were watching it, like watched the video. We got a copyright strike from that. Like, just watching something that was on-

   20. JDJimmy Dore46:23

       Really?

   21. JRJoe Rogan46:23

       ... the internet. You can't do it. You can't... People own these things. The big one is nature videos. Those fucking nature videos when you see, like, a, a pack of-

   22. JDJimmy Dore46:30

       Yeah.

   23. JRJoe Rogan46:30

       ... hyenas try to take out a lion. If you play that, that's a copyright strike. They will get you for that.

   24. JDJimmy Dore46:37

       So I had a g- uh, copyright strike recently. F- uh, n- the first one and only one we've ever had, right? That's a strike. Not like, "Hey, we're gonna de-monetize." Totally different.

   25. JRJoe Rogan46:46

       I get that all the time. Yeah.

   26. JDJimmy Dore46:47

       Yeah, that's all the time. But a strike is serious, 'cause they can take your channel down-

   27. JRJoe Rogan46:50

       Yeah.

   28. JDJimmy Dore46:51

       ... if you get two more of them. So the g-... And when they do that they have to put... They put a stamp, you know, timestamp of what is the copywritten-

   29. JRJoe Rogan46:57

       Yes.

   30. JDJimmy Dore46:57

       ... audio, right? And someone had put a copyright strike on i- i-... At the end of every one of my videos, it goes... (singing) And it's just from iTunes, right? It's not... It's non-royalty thing. It's just a... Like a... It's a chime. It's not even music.
5. 1:00:00 – 1:03:51

   Yeah. …

   1. JDJimmy Dore1:00:00

      tax cuts, nobody asks how we're going to pay for it. He gives him, uh, he tries to go into Venezuela. He tried, he tried to do what, you know, he's doing Iran. He didn't come out, we didn't get out of Syria. We're not out of Afghanistan. He's sending more people back to Iraq. It's amazing what, what's hap- the exact opposite of what he ran on is happening.

   2. JRJoe Rogan1:00:17

      Yeah.

   3. JDJimmy Dore1:00:18

      So, um, uh, why, why do I, uh, why do I think this happens? It's because just what Eisenhower said as he left, he says that we, the undue influence of the military-industrial complex. And Joe, imagine, they just invented $131 billion more worth of work-

   4. JRJoe Rogan1:00:34

      Yeah.

   5. JDJimmy Dore1:00:34

      ... for Raytheon and Boeing and Halliburton. How, how much money does the recording music business make a year? Um, 80 billion? I mean, how much does it... we've just invented a whole nother economy. Just, since Trump got inv- uh, elected, $131 extra billion. I mean, just think what you could do with that. You could build 131 Yankee Stadiums-

   6. JRJoe Rogan1:00:52

      Do you think, do you-

   7. JDJimmy Dore1:00:53

      ... (laughs) every year.

   8. JRJoe Rogan1:00:54

      ... non-cynically, do you think that a lot of this impeachment stuff and a lot of the scandal stuff is really a distraction for a lot of these things they're pushing through?

   9. JDJimmy Dore1:01:02

      Yes, it's 100% distraction, and-

   10. JRJoe Rogan1:01:04

       No, that is-

   11. JDJimmy Dore1:01:05

       ... but just like I told you, because if they really believed that he was doing all these things and he wasn't de-, why would they keep giving him all this extra money to go bomb people at his own BS? They, they, it, it, they don't try to put handcuffs on him. So that's how you know they're full of shit. And the reason why they're coming at Trump and the way... there's, there's ways to... so now they're starting to oppose him because of this Iran thing. So now you turn on CNN and Chris Cuomo goes, "Hey, why doesn't Congress do its job and take back the war powers, the, the, that they gave unto the President under this AUM?" So now, which is what I predicted would happen when Trump... the silver lining of a Trump presidency was all the shit that the Democrats and Republicans have been agreeing on, which is war, fracking, opening the Arctic to drilling, all that stuff, gassing immigrants at the border. Now we're all gonna become aware of it. Well, the Democrats spent three years doing fricking Russiagate, so they didn't ever oppose him on that stuff, and they let him keep doing it. And so now people are starting to become aware of what's happening. And so now Chris Cuomo is going, "Hey, why don't, why don't we, why doesn't Congress do their job? Why are you letting crazy President Trump..." Well, they just gave him 131, they in fact, they gave him his spying powers again through the Patriot Act. They, this guy who's working for Putin, you're gonna give him spying powers? You fucking bullshitter.They're all fucking bullshitters. Grr.

   12. JRJoe Rogan1:02:21

       It's a weird scam.

   13. JDJimmy Dore1:02:23

       Yeah. Joe, if you thought a guy was working for Putin, would you give him an extra $131 billion to go bomb anybody at his own- By the way, that's also intelligence.

   14. JRJoe Rogan1:02:30

       Is that a rhetorical question?

   15. JDJimmy Dore1:02:31

       Yes. (laughs)

   16. JRJoe Rogan1:02:33

       (laughs)

   17. JDJimmy Dore1:02:36

       So, uh, i- it- so that's why- and, you know, people- people give me a hard time about supporting Tulsi, right? It's like, "Why are you suppo-" I think it's really important to have an anti-war voice that has- uh, you know, speaks from experience. She's actually, uh, in the military right now. Uh, she actually d- uh, volunteered to go serve in their illegal wars, and then they smear her for it. It's kind of amazing.

   18. JRJoe Rogan1:02:58

       It- Well, she's a weird one, right? Because she has so many characteristics that you would think that everyone who's a progressive would want as a president. She is a- a- a veteran who twice served overseas, t- twice deployed. She's been a veteran for a long time. Longtime congresswoman. Um, she's from Hawaii. She's a- I mean, I guess she's Hawaiian. You would say she's a woman of color.

   19. JDJimmy Dore1:03:20

       They say she's a woman of color.

   20. JRJoe Rogan1:03:22

       What color? She's like a- like a light beige?

   21. JDJimmy Dore1:03:25

       She's dark. She's tanner than me.

   22. JRJoe Rogan1:03:26

       Is she? Well, she lives in Hawaii.

   23. JDJimmy Dore1:03:28

       That's why.

   24. JRJoe Rogan1:03:29

       Yeah.

   25. JDJimmy Dore1:03:29

       I don't know.

   26. JRJoe Rogan1:03:29

       (laughs)

   27. JDJimmy Dore1:03:29

       I don't know about these things. I'm white, I don't know.

   28. JRJoe Rogan1:03:32

       Well, but it is really. I mean, the Hawaiian roots are essentially, uh, Polynesian and South Pacific travelers who landed thousands of years ago on those islands. So yeah, I mean, it is essentially a- a person of color. Either way, she's an- a very articulate, rock solid woman, and they've tried to find a bunch of dirt on her and they can't.

   29. JDJimmy Dore1:03:50

       And they- and this-

   30. JRJoe Rogan1:03:50

       And they don't know what to do.

Episode duration: 2:50:14