Joe Rogan Experience #1412 - Jimmy Dore

1. 0:00 – 1:52

   Navy UFO encounter: Commander Fravor and the “Tic Tac” performance claims

   1. JRJoe Rogan0:00

      Oh, here we go. (fists thudding) Good? Hello, Jimmy.

   2. JDJimmy Dore0:06

      Hi, Joe.

   3. JRJoe Rogan0:07

      What's going on, buddy?

   4. JDJimmy Dore0:08

      (laughs)

   5. JRJoe Rogan0:08

      Good to see you.

   6. JDJimmy Dore0:09

      Good to see you too.

   7. JRJoe Rogan0:09

      What's happening?

   8. JDJimmy Dore0:10

      Well, we were just talking about the, uh, uh, the Air Force admitting that their pilots had seen UFOs. And you were telling me you interviewed one of those-

   9. JRJoe Rogan0:18

      Yes.

   10. JDJimmy Dore0:18

       ... pilots.

   11. JRJoe Rogan0:19

       I interviewed Commander Fravor, and he was saying that this, this-

   12. JDJimmy Dore0:23

       Chocolate is be- my favorite.

   13. JRJoe Rogan0:25

       (laughs) Ah. (laughs)

   14. JDJimmy Dore0:25

       Come on.

   15. JRJoe Rogan0:26

       It's with an R, Fravor.

   16. JDJimmy Dore0:28

       Fra- oh, Fravor.

   17. JRJoe Rogan0:29

       Fravor.

   18. JDJimmy Dore0:30

       Okay.

   19. JRJoe Rogan0:30

       Um, he was ta- I mean, he was one of the guys that actually went to... What did- what is the word they do when they scramble and go to try to figure out what the fuck something is? But they, they monitored this thing, they saw it with their eyes, they saw it with their equipment, it was actively jamming the radar, whatever this thing was.

   20. JDJimmy Dore0:49

       Oh.

   21. JRJoe Rogan0:49

       It was shaped like a Tic Tac, and it moved so fast you couldn't track it with the human eye. They said it went from th- I think they said some, some impossible number, like 60,000 feet down to 200 feet in less than a second. Like, whatever you could tra-

   22. JDJimmy Dore1:02

       Right. Mm-hmm.

   23. JRJoe Rogan1:02

       You know a radar does a blip, blip, blip, blip.

   24. JDJimmy Dore1:05

       Mm-hmm.

   25. JRJoe Rogan1:05

       They don't know how fast it actually went, they just know it, it went this insane distance in less than a second, less than a, a radar jump. And s-

   26. JDJimmy Dore1:16

       And s-

   27. JRJoe Rogan1:16

       And it would, it would... They da- ha- had observed them in that area without his knowledge, like, uh, other Air Force pilots had observed them-

   28. JDJimmy Dore1:24

       Mm-hmm.

   29. JRJoe Rogan1:24

       ... and then had, you know, brought it up the top of the food chain, but it wasn't something that got distributed to everybody until he saw it. When he saw it, he was like, "What in the fuck am I looking at here?" And they're like, "Well, yeah, we've been seeing these things." And this thing, w- with no active propulsion system that you could recognize. There was nothing around.

   30. JDJimmy Dore1:43

       Right.
2. 1:52 – 3:17

   “Why admit UFOs now?” Budgets, Space Force, and manufactured threats

   1. JDJimmy Dore1:52

      So when I covered this on my show, I said, "Now, I've heard reports that pilots see this stuff all the time, but they'd never confirmed it." And my question was, "Why now?" Why would the Air Force be confirming that they saw UFOs now? 'Cause th- again, like, they've been, there have been reports that pilots have seen this stuff forever. And I'm not saying it didn't happen, I'm saying, why are they admitting it happened now? And then, of course, you see in this last, uh, defense budget, they put in money for a Space Force.

   2. JRJoe Rogan2:19

      Mm.

   3. JDJimmy Dore2:19

      (laughs)

   4. JRJoe Rogan2:19

      I think the money for the Space Force, though, isn't that because China's able to-

   5. JDJimmy Dore2:24

      That's what they say.

   6. JRJoe Rogan2:24

      Ch- yeah.

   7. JDJimmy Dore2:25

      Whatever, whatever-

   8. JRJoe Rogan2:25

      China and Russia-

   9. JDJimmy Dore2:26

      ... they can do to make sure we wanna spend more money, that's what they'll do. "Hey, we saw a UFO. Hey, China. Hey, look over there. We gotta spend more money."

   10. JRJoe Rogan2:32

       They, do you think that's what it is?

   11. JDJimmy Dore2:33

       (laughs) Yes.

   12. JRJoe Rogan2:33

       That's why they're admitting it?

   13. JDJimmy Dore2:34

       (laughs) Yes.

   14. JRJoe Rogan2:34

       But Fravor, I guarantee you, isn't in that. He, he isn't involved with that.

   15. JDJimmy Dore2:36

       No, no, I guarantee you saw it. No, no, they're just now... But before, they would say, "That's not true." They, the, uh-

   16. JRJoe Rogan2:41

       Oh, I see.

   17. JDJimmy Dore2:41

       ... Air Force would go, "We don't acknowledge that." And now they're gonna acknowledge it.

   18. JRJoe Rogan2:44

       Right, you're probably right. There's probably something to that, that it's just about budgets and... But that's, I, I just, I wanna... I don't wanna be that cynical when it comes to something like that.

   19. JDJimmy Dore2:53

       Really? That cynical?

   20. JRJoe Rogan2:56

       Yeah. I wanna think that-

   21. JDJimmy Dore2:57

       Come on, that's not cynical, that's two plus two.

   22. JRJoe Rogan2:59

       No, it's... It is, you're right.

   23. JDJimmy Dore3:00

       Okay.

   24. JRJoe Rogan3:00

       But it, it's also cynical that the only reason why they're telling us this is because of budgets.

   25. JDJimmy Dore3:03

       Oh.

   26. JRJoe Rogan3:03

       It's both things.

   27. JDJimmy Dore3:04

       Yeah. Okay.

   28. JRJoe Rogan3:06

       I, I... It is two point- I mean, look, it's, uh, 100% is wh- how they do it. If they need some sort of justification for s- expanding their reach or expanding their budget, they come up with some threat.

3. 3:17 – 6:21

   Impeachment vs. war funding: the $131B contradiction and MIC capture

   1. JDJimmy Dore3:17

      Well, listen to this, Joe. Uh, I, this is what I keep telling people and no one (laughs) seems to think this is a big deal. But, uh, you know, the Democrats and the mainstream news have spent the last three years telling everybody that Trump is a Manchurian candidate, he's a traitor to our country, he's w- and working under the behest of Vladimir Putin. And while they're impeaching him, they're voting to give him an extra $131 billion to go bomb anybody he wants. And if he's bombing at the behest of Vladimir Putin, why would you give him an extra $131 billion? Now, let me tell you how much $131 billion is, Joe.

   2. JRJoe Rogan3:48

      Please do.

   3. JDJimmy Dore3:49

      Uh, well, $20 billion went on homelessness.

   4. JRJoe Rogan3:52

      And homelessness?

   5. JDJimmy Dore3:53

      Yeah. To be-

   6. JRJoe Rogan3:54

      Is that real, though?

   7. JDJimmy Dore3:55

      That's, that's the, that's the figure.

   8. JRJoe Rogan3:56

      W- we could get to that in a moment, but I don't-

   9. JDJimmy Dore3:57

      But that's... Let's just, let's just say it's 20-

   10. JRJoe Rogan3:59

       Oh, let's just, okay.

   11. JDJimmy Dore3:59

       Let's just say it's $20 billion.

   12. JRJoe Rogan4:00

       Okay.

   13. JDJimmy Dore4:00

       A year, a year. Not just once.

   14. JRJoe Rogan4:02

       Right, right.

   15. JDJimmy Dore4:02

       But every year, you'd have to spend $20 billion.

   16. JRJoe Rogan4:04

       Right.

   17. JDJimmy Dore4:05

       Okay, guess what they're spending an extra $131 billion since Trump took office every year going forward on bombs. $131 billion. You could go-

   18. JRJoe Rogan4:13

       So if they just spent-

   19. JDJimmy Dore4:13

       Everybody could go to college.

   20. JRJoe Rogan4:14

       ... $110 billion, we'd have no homeless people.

   21. JDJimmy Dore4:16

       (laughs) Yes, if they took that money and put it towards it.

   22. JRJoe Rogan4:20

       Mm.

   23. JDJimmy Dore4:20

       That's a lo- So somebody told me the difference between a million and a billion, so... I read this, so the... I don't know, maybe you wanna fact check, make sure I'm not full of shit again. But, um, so like a million seconds would be like 11 days, but a billion seconds is like 33 years.

   24. JRJoe Rogan4:37

       Yeah, something like-

   25. JDJimmy Dore4:38

       Something like that.

   26. JRJoe Rogan4:38

       ... yeah.

   27. JDJimmy Dore4:38

       I'm not sure if they'll... But it's close.

   28. JRJoe Rogan4:40

       Yeah.

   29. JDJimmy Dore4:41

       So that's, uh, $131 billion could do a lot of good things. You know, we could half our military budget and still, we'd still be spending more, more than any other country.

   30. JRJoe Rogan4:50

       Now, why do you think that they would do that? Why do you think, while they're impeaching him, they would also approve this incredible budget increase for military?
4. 6:21 – 16:10

   Is Trump on speed? Sudafed, “diet pills,” and public slurring clips

   1. JRJoe Rogan6:21

      Do you think he's on speed?

   2. JDJimmy Dore6:22

      And somebody ... Oh, well, so when he did that one video-

   3. JRJoe Rogan6:26

      With the drawer open?

   4. JDJimmy Dore6:27

      ... with the drawer open and-

   5. JRJoe Rogan6:28

      It was actually a photo. It was a photo when he was eating that taco bowl.

   6. JDJimmy Dore6:30

      Oh, right. That's it.

   7. JRJoe Rogan6:31

      Like, "I love Hispanics," remember that? It was after-

   8. JDJimmy Dore6:33

      (laughs)

   9. JRJoe Rogan6:33

      ... he said some rude shit about Mexicans. Jesus Christ.

   10. JDJimmy Dore6:36

       So he does this taco bowl thing, saying it, we ... "Trump Tower's the best taco bowls. I love Hispanics."

   11. JRJoe Rogan6:41

       Yeah.

   12. JDJimmy Dore6:41

       Yes. And the, the drawer was open and you saw-

   13. JRJoe Rogan6:43

       Yeah.

   14. JDJimmy Dore6:43

       ... he had that stuff from England or whatever, right?

   15. JRJoe Rogan6:45

       Yeah. Super-

   16. JDJimmy Dore6:45

       The Sudafed.

   17. JRJoe Rogan6:46

       Super powerful pseudo-ephedrine, which is essen- essentially a type of speed.

   18. JDJimmy Dore6:51

       Well, it's ... I, I like him on speed better than the other guy.

   19. JRJoe Rogan6:54

       (laughs)

   20. JDJimmy Dore6:55

       I like the speedy, speedy Trump. He's entertaining.

   21. JRJoe Rogan6:57

       Well, the ... Sometimes it wears off though, and you see him slurring his words-

   22. JDJimmy Dore7:01

       Oh.

   23. JRJoe Rogan7:01

       ... and it gets really weird.

   24. JDJimmy Dore7:01

       He, he doesn't even try to fi- finish words sometimes.

   25. JRJoe Rogan7:04

       He tried but he c- ... ah, blah.

   26. JDJimmy Dore7:06

       Ah, whatever.

   27. JRJoe Rogan7:06

       You could see him have a hard time with words sometimes.

   28. JDJimmy Dore7:09

       (coughs) What was the one word ... Him and George Bush both ... Oh, sovereignty, they both ... (laughs)

   29. JRJoe Rogan7:13

       Sovereignty.

   30. JDJimmy Dore7:13

       Sovereign, uh ... (laughs) It's-
5. 16:10 – 33:57

   Weed habits and withdrawal: night sweats, tolerance, and modern THC potency

   1. JDJimmy Dore16:10

      So let me ask you a question. When- when you ... When I would travel out of the country, I would always think that, oh, I get like a little cold, flu thing every time I travel out of the country. Like, I would get night sweats and I would kinda get headaches and I would feel a little fluey, you know?

   2. JRJoe Rogan16:26

      Mm-hmm.

   3. JDJimmy Dore16:28

      And then, uh, I got this dental implant and so I didn't s- I- so I want ... You know, they say don't smoke or whatever, so I'm like gonna be extra good, I didn't smoke for a whole week. I felt like I felt when I go to Europe and I'm like-

   4. JRJoe Rogan16:40

      So you're saying you have a physical addiction?

   5. JDJimmy Dore16:41

      Yes! I was like, no way!

   6. JRJoe Rogan16:43

      Wow.

   7. JDJimmy Dore16:44

      Did you ... I mean, that's why I wanted to ask you, does that ever happen to you when you travel outside the country?

   8. JRJoe Rogan16:47

      No. No, but some people do have that apparently.

   9. JDJimmy Dore16:50

      Yes, like night sweats. It's the worst!

   10. JRJoe Rogan16:52

       Night sweats?

   11. JDJimmy Dore16:53

       You wake up and your- you know as- as soon as I take this cover off, it's gonna be freezing.

   12. JRJoe Rogan16:57

       Really?

   13. JDJimmy Dore16:57

       Yeah. So I gotta-

   14. JRJoe Rogan16:58

       So like-

   15. JDJimmy Dore16:58

       ... get up and change my t-sh- I sor- I sleep in a t-shirt and, uh, and jeans.

   16. JRJoe Rogan17:02

       I didn't know that.

   17. JDJimmy Dore17:02

       And, uh ... (laughs)

   18. JRJoe Rogan17:04

       (laughs)

   19. JDJimmy Dore17:04

       I like to be ready.

   20. JRJoe Rogan17:04

       And- and Timberlands.

   21. JDJimmy Dore17:06

       I wanna- I wanna go!

   22. JRJoe Rogan17:07

       Now, do you sleep befo- do you smoke before you go to bed? Is that your move?

   23. JDJimmy Dore17:11

       Of course.

   24. JRJoe Rogan17:11

       Okay. So it helps you sleep?

   25. JDJimmy Dore17:13

       Oh, yeah.

   26. JRJoe Rogan17:13

       Yeah. He-

   27. JDJimmy Dore17:14

       How about you?

   28. JRJoe Rogan17:14

       No.

   29. JDJimmy Dore17:15

       R- it doesn't help you sleep?

   30. JRJoe Rogan17:16

       No. No. No, when I smoke pot, I'm awake. I start thinking about shit I don't wanna go to sleep.
6. 33:57 – 1:14:51

   Edibles gone wrong: Ari dosing Bert, ‘find the edible,’ and 11-hydroxy THC

   1. JDJimmy Dore33:57

      Do you still- do you used to ever take pot from fans? Are you afraid?

   2. JRJoe Rogan34:00

      No. Yes.

   3. JDJimmy Dore34:01

      Yeah, me too.

   4. JRJoe Rogan34:02

      Yes. Just- you're asking for it.

   5. JDJimmy Dore34:04

      You are, right? Some-

   6. JRJoe Rogan34:05

      Yeah.

   7. JDJimmy Dore34:05

      "Oh, I thought- I'd give you a little extra taste, I put some acid on there for you."

   8. JRJoe Rogan34:08

      Yeah.

   9. JDJimmy Dore34:08

      I don't need that, right?

   10. JRJoe Rogan34:09

       Look, my good friend, Ari Shaffir, dosed Bert Kreischer when they were doing a podcast together.

   11. JDJimmy Dore34:14

       So that's real?

   12. JRJoe Rogan34:15

       That's real.

   13. JDJimmy Dore34:15

       I thought that was a joke.

   14. JRJoe Rogan34:17

       No. He gave him molly, dropped it in his drink. (laughs)

   15. JDJimmy Dore34:22

       So was there hard feelings over that?

   16. JRJoe Rogan34:25

       Oh, yeah, there was a real problem with-

   17. JDJimmy Dore34:28

       I thought that was all a joke.

   18. JRJoe Rogan34:29

       No, there's no jokes with us. We don't do jokes.

   19. JDJimmy Dore34:32

       I mean, I just saw it on Twitter.

   20. JRJoe Rogan34:34

       Yeah, that's real. All that shit's real.

   21. JDJimmy Dore34:35

       No.

   22. JRJoe Rogan34:36

       Yeah.

   23. JDJimmy Dore34:37

       So they're not pals?

   24. JRJoe Rogan34:38

       Oh, they're back.

   25. JDJimmy Dore34:38

       Oh, okay.

   26. JRJoe Rogan34:39

       The wife hates him still, though. Bert's wife's still very-

   27. JDJimmy Dore34:42

       I could-

   28. JRJoe Rogan34:43

       ... very upset.

   29. JDJimmy Dore34:43

       ... I- I would have a hard time with that.

   30. JRJoe Rogan34:45

       Yeah.

Episode duration: 2:50:14