Joe Rogan Experience #1415 - Bari Weiss

1. 0:00 – 15:00

   3, 2, 1. (hands clap)…

   1. JRJoe Rogan0:01

      3, 2, 1. (hands clap) Hello, Bari.

   2. BWBari Weiss0:05

      Hi, Joe.

   3. JRJoe Rogan0:05

      Great. Oh-

   4. BWBari Weiss0:06

      (laughs)

   5. JRJoe Rogan0:06

      ... double, double guns. Good to see you. (hands clapping)

   6. BWBari Weiss0:08

      Great to see you, too.

   7. JRJoe Rogan0:09

      So, uh-

   8. BWBari Weiss0:09

      I'm enjoying my turmeric.

   9. JRJoe Rogan0:11

      You are, right?

   10. BWBari Weiss0:11

       Super food.

   11. JRJoe Rogan0:12

       It's good. Laird Hamilton's onto something, right?

   12. BWBari Weiss0:15

       Very. Laird Hamilton and Gwyneth Paltrow-

   13. JRJoe Rogan0:17

       No.

   14. BWBari Weiss0:17

       ... I guess.

   15. JRJoe Rogan0:18

       No, don't put them together.

   16. BWBari Weiss0:18

       They've never done the turmeric thing.

   17. JRJoe Rogan0:19

       No, no, no.

   18. BWBari Weiss0:20

       (laughs)

   19. JRJoe Rogan0:20

       One is a world champion athlete, one of the greatest surfers the world has ever known.

   20. BWBari Weiss0:25

       Okay.

   21. JRJoe Rogan0:25

       The other one is a wonderful actress, who is Iron Man's girlfriend.

   22. BWBari Weiss0:28

       (laughs)

   23. JRJoe Rogan0:28

       There's a difference. There's a big difference.

   24. BWBari Weiss0:30

       And, you know, a major mogul, who-

   25. JRJoe Rogan0:32

       And wants you to put-

   26. BWBari Weiss0:33

       ... determines what people like me want to purchase, buy, and look like.

   27. JRJoe Rogan0:36

       She wants you to put vagina rocks-

   28. BWBari Weiss0:38

       Yes.

   29. JRJoe Rogan0:38

       ... in there, right?

   30. BWBari Weiss0:39

       Jade, jade, jade stones?
2. 15:00 – 30:00

   Mm-hmm. …

   1. JRJoe Rogan15:00

   2. BWBari Weiss15:00

      Mm-hmm.

   3. JRJoe Rogan15:00

      We're wary of that, that guy who lives in the woods and, and doesn't ... the, the isolationist who doesn't need anybody else. They're by themselves. Like, well, that person doesn't follow by the rules of our community. What, what are we comfortable about? We're comfortable about friendly neighbors. We're comfortable about like, "Hey, you need help? You know, you need me to help dig you out of the snow? Do you need this? Do you need that?"

   4. BWBari Weiss15:21

      Yeah.

   5. JRJoe Rogan15:21

      Like, that's what we love, right? 'Cause then ... And we love people that share our values, right? We like to live in a community of shared values. Because then, you're like, you're all, we're all comforting each other. We're all saying, "We're all in this together. We're gonna have hardships. We're gonna have good times, but the, the ... we'll have more good times. We'll be able to get through the hardships if we operate together with similar values."

   6. BWBari Weiss15:43

      Yeah. Yeah, but we're kind of ... We're not living in the age of the Unabomber, but we're certainly living in an age where people are completely isolated. You know, everyone on the campaign trail is talking about the diseases of despair and how the lifespan in this country has gone down for the past three ... life expectancy has gone down the past three years.

   7. JRJoe Rogan16:01

      Because of Trump? (laughs) It must be.

   8. BWBari Weiss16:03

      Because of opioids.

   9. JRJoe Rogan16:04

      It has to be. Oh, it's Trump.

   10. BWBari Weiss16:04

       Because, because people are out of work, because, because factories are closing, because we're going through whatever Andrew Yang calls it, the Fourth Industrial Revolution, because of globalization, because ... Like, we're living through an unbelievably trans- what I think will be remembered as an unbelievably transformative time-

   11. JRJoe Rogan16:20

       Mm-hmm.

   12. BWBari Weiss16:20

       ... and Trump is only one data point.

   13. JRJoe Rogan16:23

       Yes.

   14. BWBari Weiss16:23

       Like, he's a symptom and he's a catalyst, but he's not the whole picture. And to see him as the whole picture, I think, is just like completely missing the moment that we're in.

   15. JRJoe Rogan16:31

       Well put. Very well put. Yeah, um, I think y- I, I really think you, you just nailed it. I really think that's a lot of what's going on here. And I think ... I mean, what you said, but people enjoying when people can speak their mind. When people see someone like Ricky Gervais get up at the Golden Globes and say-

   16. BWBari Weiss16:50

       They're like, "Yes."

   17. JRJoe Rogan16:50

       "Yes, yes."

   18. BWBari Weiss16:52

       "Yes."

   19. JRJoe Rogan16:52

       Because-

   20. BWBari Weiss16:53

       Or like Chappelles, like Chappelles reason-

   21. JRJoe Rogan16:55

       Yes.

   22. BWBari Weiss16:55

       Like, that to me was-

   23. JRJoe Rogan16:56

       Or Bill Burns.

   24. BWBari Weiss16:57

       Yeah.

   25. JRJoe Rogan16:57

       Yeah.

   26. BWBari Weiss16:57

       But the, the Chappelle one was so good because if you looked at Rotten Tomatoes, right, the critics' rating of it was something like 20% favorable.

   27. JRJoe Rogan17:06

       No, it was zero at first.

   28. BWBari Weiss17:08

       (laughs) It was-

   29. JRJoe Rogan17:08

       It was zero.

   30. BWBari Weiss17:09

       Yeah, and then-
3. 30:00 – 45:00

   Or Jews. …

   1. JRJoe Rogan30:00

      thing that ever happens on this Earth. Conor McGregor just destroyed Donald Cerrone in 40 seconds. There is an entire community of people on ri- online right now thinking that that was a setup and that it was a fake fight and that they had planned it all in advance and this is j- just to make money. I mean, I mean, I'm talking about volumes of writing. I mean, people are just page after page after page talking about things that don't make sense about the fight. And like, this is just what people do. They look for conspiracies in everything, whether it's vaccines or politics or, or, or-

   2. BWBari Weiss30:29

      Or Jews.

   3. JRJoe Rogan30:30

      Or Jews.

   4. BWBari Weiss30:31

      Yeah.

   5. JRJoe Rogan30:31

      Yeah.

   6. BWBari Weiss30:32

      Oh, presidential candidates, though?

   7. JRJoe Rogan30:33

      Yeah. Pres- sure.

   8. BWBari Weiss30:34

      Or do you wanna go jokes?

   9. JRJoe Rogan30:34

      Everything. We could go-

   10. BWBari Weiss30:35

       Presidential candidates, I don't know. I love Yang's ... What I was gonna say about Yang-

   11. JRJoe Rogan30:39

       I like him as a human being, a lot.

   12. BWBari Weiss30:39

       ... before we got into cutting off baby dicks. (laughs)

   13. JRJoe Rogan30:41

       Yes.

   14. BWBari Weiss30:42

       Love his energy, like him as a person a lot. He's, like, he's real.

   15. JRJoe Rogan30:47

       Yes.

   16. BWBari Weiss30:47

       You know, he's like... Most politicians are aliens, and he's not.

   17. JRJoe Rogan30:50

       Right.

   18. BWBari Weiss30:50

       And it's so refreshing. And-

   19. JRJoe Rogan30:52

       Yeah.

   20. BWBari Weiss30:53

       You know?

   21. JRJoe Rogan30:53

       I like him a lot.

   22. BWBari Weiss30:53

       I like him a lot.

   23. JRJoe Rogan30:53

       He also said that police officers should have a purple belt in Brazilian jujitsu-

   24. BWBari Weiss30:58

       (laughs)

   25. JRJoe Rogan30:58

       ... which I completely agree with.

   26. BWBari Weiss30:59

       He has a lot... (laughs) Like, I went to look at the policies on his page.

   27. JRJoe Rogan31:02

       Yes.

   28. BWBari Weiss31:02

       Like, like, who is this? But-

   29. JRJoe Rogan31:04

       Super rational.

   30. BWBari Weiss31:05

       He's great.
4. 45:00 – 1:00:00

   Hmm. …

   1. JRJoe Rogan45:00

      other, to other Native American tribes. They- they went on war constantly. They were raiding each other constantly.

   2. GVGuest (secondary in-room voice)45:05

      Hmm.

   3. JRJoe Rogan45:05

      Kidnapping, abducting, murdering. I mean, there was this ... There's no like ... This idea of Native Americans being like, "Oh-"

   4. GVGuest (secondary in-room voice)45:11

      Like the peaceable-

   5. JRJoe Rogan45:12

      Yeah. Hos- horseshit. 100% horseshit. That's not how they lived, but the way they lived was n- I- I don't wanna say admirable, but fascinating. Fascinating and powerful and th- and they had-

   6. GVGuest (secondary in-room voice)45:29

      Hmm.

   7. JRJoe Rogan45:29

      ... their very strict rules and codes of operating that were very unlike the Western world, and they were invaded. They were invaded and dominated and killed off by disease and then ultimate- I mean, they were s- ne- they were shooting buffalo just to starve the Indians out. I mean, there was a lot of crazy shit that went down. So when she comes out and says, you know, "Oh, I'm- I grew up Native American." The fuck you did.

   8. GVGuest (secondary in-room voice)45:54

      (laughs)

   9. JRJoe Rogan45:55

      The fuck you did. And the more books I read ... Now I'm on Black Elk Speaks, which is my favorite one so far because Black Elk Speaks is an actual man named Black Elk who was a Oglala Sioux medicine man, a Lakota medicine man, who, uh, in the 1930s told his story. So he was alive when Cu- he was there when Custer was murdered.

   10. GVGuest (secondary in-room voice)46:16

       Wow.

   11. JRJoe Rogan46:16

       Yeah. He was- he was there when the- the Sioux were forced into reservations. He's telling the whole story of them going from living this nomadic life to being forced in these rev- reservations, and starving, and alcoholism, and all the- the chaos that came with it. So n-

   12. GVGuest (secondary in-room voice)46:32

       Hmm.

   13. JRJoe Rogan46:32

       And this one is the- this one's the best because it's literally his words, so you get a direct translation. He's talking to his son, his son is talking to the author, and the book was written-

   14. GVGuest (secondary in-room voice)46:42

       Hmm.

   15. JRJoe Rogan46:42

       ... in the 1930s.

   16. GVGuest (secondary in-room voice)46:44

       Do you spend any time on reservations?

   17. JRJoe Rogan46:46

       No, I haven't, other than Indian casinos doing standup.

   18. GVGuest (secondary in-room voice)46:49

       Yeah.

   19. JRJoe Rogan46:50

       And yeah. I ne- I n- we're working on it right now.

   20. GVGuest (secondary in-room voice)46:52

       You should do a show with some- I mean ...

   21. JRJoe Rogan46:53

       Well, we're working on that right now.

   22. GVGuest (secondary in-room voice)46:54

       Yeah.

   23. JRJoe Rogan46:54

       We're reaching out to a couple different Native American groups to try to find a good representative- representative to come in and- and talk about w- you know, their grandparents and what-

   24. GVGuest (secondary in-room voice)47:03

       Yeah.

   25. JRJoe Rogan47:03

       ... what- the stories that they had heard. Yeah. It's, um, it's a crazy subject.

   26. GVGuest (secondary in-room voice)47:08

       Hmm.

   27. JRJoe Rogan47:08

       And it's ... To me, I- th- uh ... Look, pretending you're anything is not good, but pretending you're Native American, to me, is like whoa. That's ... Because that's one where everybody ... It- it's- there's like a spirituality aspect to Native Americans-

   28. GVGuest (secondary in-room voice)47:23

       Hmm.

   29. JRJoe Rogan47:23

       ... that's implied. Like you say you're Native American, people are like, "Oh, that guy fucking knows things."

   30. GVGuest (secondary in-room voice)47:28

       (laughs)
5. 1:00:00 – 1:09:35

   Yeah. …

   1. JRJoe Rogan1:00:00

      use-

   2. GVGuest (secondary in-room voice)1:00:00

      Yeah.

   3. JRJoe Rogan1:00:00

      ... that walker.

   4. GVGuest (secondary in-room voice)1:00:00

      Yeah.

   5. JRJoe Rogan1:00:00

      I'm like, that looks so fake.

   6. GVGuest (secondary in-room voice)1:00:01

      Well, you get extra like lawyer time or something, right, if you're hurt-

   7. JRJoe Rogan1:00:05

      If you're disabled?

   8. GVGuest (secondary in-room voice)1:00:06

      Yeah, if you're disabled, in court or something. I don't know.

   9. JRJoe Rogan1:00:08

      Get broken parts in.

   10. GVGuest (secondary in-room voice)1:00:08

       Or I guess it's if you're in... Maybe if you're being held.

   11. JRJoe Rogan1:00:10

       Well, what is it, what, what all the sudden happened to him? Did he fall?

   12. GVGuest (secondary in-room voice)1:00:14

       He needs surgery of some sort.

   13. JRJoe Rogan1:00:15

       But it's new, right? His back hurts. Y- but it seems greasy. Doesn't it seem greasy?

   14. GVGuest (secondary in-room voice)1:00:22

       Oh, yeah, for sure. That's definitely a move-

   15. JRJoe Rogan1:00:24

       Yeah.

   16. GVGuest (secondary in-room voice)1:00:24

       ... someone told him to do.

   17. JRJoe Rogan1:00:25

       It's a greasy move. Yeah, it's like I see what you're doing. Shut the, shut the door please.

   18. GVGuest (secondary in-room voice)1:00:28

       I get it, I get it. Dude.

   19. BWBari Weiss1:00:29

       I got it.

   20. JRJoe Rogan1:00:29

       Yeah. We were just talking about, uh, Harvey Weinstein's walker. I don't buy it.

   21. BWBari Weiss1:00:34

       Oh, I don't buy it for a second.

   22. JRJoe Rogan1:00:35

       Not a fucking second, right?

   23. BWBari Weiss1:00:36

       Oh my God, no we haven't.

   24. JRJoe Rogan1:00:37

       Like, oh, sympathy.

   25. BWBari Weiss1:00:38

       We talked about Jeffrey Epstein.

   26. JRJoe Rogan1:00:38

       Yeah, we gotta talk about that too.

   27. BWBari Weiss1:00:40

       Oh my fucking God. That's-

   28. JRJoe Rogan1:00:42

       Yeah.

   29. BWBari Weiss1:00:44

       ... that's something.

   30. JRJoe Rogan1:00:44

       Yeah, he didn't help Jewish relations-

Episode duration: 2:33:43