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Joe Rogan Experience #1418 - Don Gavin

Don Gavin is a stand-up comedian and actor. His album "Don Gavin: Live with a Manhattan" will be available for the first time to stream on January 24.

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Jan 22, 20201h 14mWatch on YouTube ↗

At a glance

WHAT IT’S REALLY ABOUT

Boston Comedy Legend Don Gavin Recounts Wild Origins Of Standup Boom

  1. Joe Rogan sits down with Boston comedy pioneer Don Gavin to revisit the birth, peak, and collapse of the 1980s Boston standup explosion. They detail the rough bar origins of clubs like the Ding Ho and Nick’s, the hyper-aggressive Boston style, and how a small, hard-partying group of comics created one of the strongest scenes in the country. Gavin shares war stories about drugs, IRS trouble, vicious club politics, road gigs, and why many Boston killers never became nationally famous. They close by discussing Gavin’s late-career push to finally release his standup album and embrace modern platforms and social media.

IDEAS WORTH REMEMBERING

5 ideas

The Boston comedy boom was built by comics, not businessmen.

Early clubs like the Ding Ho and Nick’s were essentially run and curated by comedians, creating a high-quality, competitive environment that pushed everyone to be better and made Boston uniquely strong compared to other cities.

A dense, aggressive joke style defined Boston standup.

Gavin describes a rapid-fire approach with constant punchlines and tags, leaving no room to breathe—something that often overwhelmed slower, more theatrical headliners imported from New York or LA.

Success without structure led many comics into serious IRS trouble.

Most Boston comics were paid in cash and simply didn’t file taxes; when visibility increased via press, the IRS cracked down, hitting people like Gavin with massive back-tax and interest bills that took years to settle.

Comics often sabotaged out-of-town headliners to defend their turf.

Local clubs would stack lineups with Boston “murderers” before a visiting star, leading to big-name comics like Billy Crystal and Richard Lewis bombing after the crowd had already been destroyed by locals.

Many of the best Boston comics never built national profiles.

Because there was so much paid work locally, many stayed in Boston rather than relocating or recording specials, leaving legendary performers like Mike Donovan and others largely undocumented outside the region.

WORDS WORTH SAVING

5 quotes

There wasn’t a Boston style other than being very aggressive maybe.

Don Gavin

There were about 12 of you… to this day I swear, I think they're the best comics I’ve ever seen in my life.

Joe Rogan

For years I was called the best kept secret in Boston and in comedy… I’m kind of tired of that term. I’d rather not have a secret anymore.

Don Gavin

Comedy clubs are an asylum that needs to be run by the inmates.

Joe Rogan

We did it for the love… It really never entered my mind to release anything. I’m an idiot.

Don Gavin

Origins and evolution of the Boston standup comedy scene (late 70s–80s)Unique “Boston style” of aggressive, dense punchline comedyClub politics, ownership changes, and the rise/fall of key venues (Ding Ho, Nick’s, etc.)Heavy partying culture: drugs, alcohol, and IRS troubles among comicsRoad work, other city scenes (Houston, Chicago, Memphis), and cruise ship gigsWriting process, developing material, and bombing versus killing onstageDon Gavin’s long-delayed album release and late adoption of digital platforms/social media

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