Joe Rogan Experience #1420 - Mark Normand

1. 0:00 – 1:16

   Mic setup banter, “patina,” and raunchy warm‑up riffs

   1. JRJoe Rogan0:00

      (gulps) Ladies and gentlemen, Mark Norman.

   2. MNMark Normand0:06

      Hey, hey.

   3. JRJoe Rogan0:06

      You trying ... Did your thing come un- unplugged?

   4. MNMark Normand0:08

      No, no, I'm all good. It just isn't as long as I hoped.

   5. JRJoe Rogan0:11

      Is it?

   6. MNMark Normand0:11

      Which I've heard before.

   7. JRJoe Rogan0:12

      We're g- ... Ha!

   8. MNMark Normand0:12

      But, uh, yeah. No, we're good. (thumps desk)

   9. JRJoe Rogan0:14

      We're gonna get new, uh, things with a box and, like, a little volume-

   10. MNMark Normand0:18

       Ooh.

   11. JRJoe Rogan0:18

       So we can ... Yeah. We're gonna make it like a real radio show.

   12. MNMark Normand0:21

       Finally. This thing's been slacking.

   13. JRJoe Rogan0:22

       Yeah, I know. That's what I've been saying, man.

   14. MNMark Normand0:24

       Mm-hmm.

   15. JRJoe Rogan0:24

       Just this- this little box right here that controls the volume is just too complicated. Nobody can figure out where the dial is for their thing.

   16. MNMark Normand0:31

       It's prehistoric, too. That looks- looks aged.

   17. JRJoe Rogan0:34

       Does it?

   18. MNMark Normand0:34

       Yeah, it's a little weathered.

   19. JRJoe Rogan0:35

       Hmm. Well-

   20. MNMark Normand0:36

       Probably from all the weed smoke.

   21. JRJoe Rogan0:37

       ... it's patina. That's what they call it.

   22. MNMark Normand0:40

       Patina?

   23. JRJoe Rogan0:40

       Patina.

   24. MNMark Normand0:41

       Is that an you're made?

   25. JRJoe Rogan0:42

       You know patina? No.

   26. MNMark Normand0:43

       Oh. (laughs)

   27. JRJoe Rogan0:43

       Patina's like, uh, the surface of an old car-

   28. MNMark Normand0:46

       Ah.

   29. JRJoe Rogan0:46

       ... where it has kind of like ... Or maybe a- a knife that's been kinda like slightly rusted, you know? It's g-

   30. MNMark Normand0:52

       A little wear and tear.
2. 1:16 – 3:54

   Tampa comedy rooms and accidental encounters with swinger culture

   1. JRJoe Rogan1:16

      Yeah. Did you do the improv with the three floors?

   2. MNMark Normand1:18

      No, that- that room stinks. I did the, uh, the side splitters.

   3. JRJoe Rogan1:21

      Oh, that's supposed to be a really good room.

   4. MNMark Normand1:22

      Great room. Mom and pop, been there forever. You know, Richard Jeni's photos on the wall and all that shit.

   5. JRJoe Rogan1:28

      Ah, that kinda place.

   6. MNMark Normand1:28

      It's old school.

   7. JRJoe Rogan1:30

      God, he ... That- that guy, he's one of my all time favorites. That, uh, Tampa improv, does it still have the three floors?

   8. MNMark Normand1:36

      Yeah, yeah. It's- It's-

   9. JRJoe Rogan1:37

      And the third floor's, like, te- ten seats, right?

   10. MNMark Normand1:39

       Yeah. Ybor City, everybody's hammered. It's- it's like-

   11. JRJoe Rogan1:42

       Yeah.

   12. MNMark Normand1:42

       ... Bourbon Street down there. It's not great for comedy.

   13. JRJoe Rogan1:43

       Last time I was there, which was quite a while ago, I got introduced by someone who wanted to, uh ... "I- I wanna introduce you to the local swinger community."

   14. MNMark Normand1:51

       Ooh.

   15. JRJoe Rogan1:53

       Yeah. The- the- the- the people that are, like, really into swinging in Tampa are not people y- anybody wants to have sex with.

   16. MNMark Normand1:59

       Right, right.

   17. JRJoe Rogan1:59

       They find each other and they all just ... No one gives a shit. Y- you fuck her, I'll fuck her-

   18. MNMark Normand2:03

       Yeah.

   19. JRJoe Rogan2:03

       ... I'll fuck him, you fuck me. (laughs)

   20. MNMark Normand2:05

       Did you- did you look at 'em, like a lineup kinda thing? Like ...

   21. JRJoe Rogan2:07

       There was, like, 20 of them that came to the show.

   22. MNMark Normand2:10

       Whoa. How ... Not one-

   23. JRJoe Rogan2:11

       Yeah.

   24. MNMark Normand2:11

       ... fuckable weirdo?

   25. JRJoe Rogan2:12

       I mean, listen. Things can get ugly when you get hammered, but-

   26. MNMark Normand2:15

       Of course, of course.

   27. JRJoe Rogan2:17

       ... they were-

   28. MNMark Normand2:19

       You should see my ex.

   29. JRJoe Rogan2:20

       (laughs) Yeah. Ew.

   30. MNMark Normand2:20

       (laughs)
3. 3:54 – 6:08

   Sex clubs, masked fantasies, and male stripping reality checks

   1. JRJoe Rogan3:54

      Yeah, they ha- ... Well, they used to have those. I've never been to a- a- an actual sex club in LA, but, uh, a buddy of mine has been to one. And he said they- you know, you go into this room and all these ... There's, like, weird red lights, red light bulbs, and everybody's banging everybody, and you're like, "Ooh."

   2. MNMark Normand4:07

      Yeah. Well, do you ever watch those dancing bear videos?

   3. JRJoe Rogan4:11

      No.

   4. MNMark Normand4:11

      Oh, man.

   5. JRJoe Rogan4:12

      I thought that was related.

   6. MNMark Normand4:12

      J-Mo, pull it up.

   7. JRJoe Rogan4:14

      (laughs) Oh.

   8. MNMark Normand4:14

      He's gonna- he's gonna get wood.

   9. JRJoe Rogan4:15

      Ah, I can't pull it up right now.

   10. MNMark Normand4:16

       I used to ... It's, uh, called CFN- CFNM, clothed female, naked male. And it's so hot, because it's the woman in charge and it's a bunch of dude strippers who come in with bear hats on, like bear masks, and they're in a Speedo and they just start dancing. Eventually, they're getting blown, they're fucking the, uh, the chicken from accounting and banging Deborah from sales, and it's, like, kinda ... All mediocre looking women getting railed by these studs.

   11. JRJoe Rogan4:41

       Really?

   12. MNMark Normand4:42

       And it's great 'cause they like it.

   13. NANarrator4:43

       (laughs)

   14. JRJoe Rogan4:44

       And, uh, they keep the masks on?

   15. MNMark Normand4:46

       Oh, yeah. Uh, I mean, eventually.

   16. JRJoe Rogan4:47

       So why do the guys keep the masks on?

   17. MNMark Normand4:48

       Well, it- it- just 'cause it's, uh, anonymous. It's hotter. It's just a- a fuck object.

   18. JRJoe Rogan4:53

       Oh, right. So the woman can, like, flip the switch and-

   19. MNMark Normand4:56

       Yes.

   20. JRJoe Rogan4:57

       ... and detach, and just enjoy the physical pleasure of it.

   21. MNMark Normand5:00

       And it's like a bachelorette party or an office party-

   22. JRJoe Rogan5:02

       Right.

   23. MNMark Normand5:02

       ... or something, and it's- it's killer. It's always in a- like, an office setting or something.

   24. JRJoe Rogan5:06

       So she doesn't have to look in the eye of the- the man and feel shame and weirdness.

   25. MNMark Normand5:11

       Yeah.

   26. JRJoe Rogan5:11

       Yeah.

   27. MNMark Normand5:11

       And when the women are turned on, it's so much hotter. You know? 'Cause all we see all day is, like, dudes like, "Come on, let me fuck you." But when the woman's taking charge, it's- it's better. You feel-

   28. JRJoe Rogan5:21

       Hmm.

   29. MNMark Normand5:21

       You feel better about your- what you're watching.

   30. JRJoe Rogan5:23

       Yeah. They get jaded, though. I used to know some guys from martial arts who used to do male stripping, and they get real jaded. They get real weirded-
4. 6:08 – 7:46

   Creepy DMs, gay “zoo” labels, and koala chlamydia

   1. MNMark Normand6:08

      You should see my DMs, man. It's just ball sacks and-

   2. JRJoe Rogan6:12

      Really?

   3. MNMark Normand6:12

      ... dick jerking and gay dudes. Like, hot dudes sometimes who are just like, "Hey, the things I would... I would drain your asshole," and-

   4. JRJoe Rogan6:18

      Whoo.

   5. MNMark Normand6:18

      ... this and that. Oh, yeah. I, I, I find it flattering.

   6. JRJoe Rogan6:21

      Why do you think they're going after you?

   7. MNMark Normand6:22

      I think I got a twinkie otter vibe, you know?

   8. JRJoe Rogan6:25

      Otter?

   9. MNMark Normand6:25

      That's one of those gay terms. They got otter, bear.

   10. JRJoe Rogan6:29

       I knew about bear.

   11. MNMark Normand6:30

       Yeah, there's a bunch. The g- Jaymo, you know 'em all. (laughs)

   12. JRJoe Rogan6:34

       (laughs) You j-

   13. MNMark Normand6:34

       There's a-

   14. JRJoe Rogan6:34

       You're bringing Jamey into this?

   15. MNMark Normand6:35

       There's a whole, like, zoo full of-

   16. JRJoe Rogan6:37

       What's a zot? What's an otter?

   17. MNMark Normand6:38

       Otter's like a thin, medium-sized guy, you know?

   18. JRJoe Rogan6:41

       Oh, you're a medium-sized guy.

   19. MNMark Normand6:42

       Like, the little guy would be, like, a twink. I don't know what Brad Williams would be. He'd be like a, like a s- a Hershey's Kiss or something.

   20. JRJoe Rogan6:48

       Koala bear.

   21. MNMark Normand6:49

       There you go. Yeah, he does have chlamydia but, um, yeah, so they got-

   22. JRJoe Rogan6:54

       Koala bears have chlamydia?

   23. MNMark Normand6:55

       All of 'em.

   24. JRJoe Rogan6:56

       Is that... (laughs)

   25. MNMark Normand6:56

       Yeah.

   26. JRJoe Rogan6:57

       100%?

   27. MNMark Normand6:57

       True story. Google!

   28. JRJoe Rogan6:58

       Is that what... Imagine if that's where ch- chlamydia came from, somebody had to fuck a koala bear.

   29. MNMark Normand7:02

       (laughs) Well, apparently we got AIDS from a monkey, so maybe koala gave us chlamyd.

   30. JRJoe Rogan7:05

       Do you know where that actually comes from that's not from someone fucking a monkey? There's a- an actual-
5. 7:46 – 13:13

   Australia wildfires: scale of devastation, wildlife rescue, and Indigenous realities

   1. JRJoe Rogan7:46

      Well, they'd have to go grab all of 'em. Well, you know, they're, they're really in deep, deep trouble because of the wildfires in Australia. They said that their... something like 80% of their habitat's been destroyed.

   2. MNMark Normand7:57

      Ooh. Yikes.

   3. JRJoe Rogan7:58

      The fucking... the fire's over there are insane. I did a benefit Sunday night-

   4. MNMark Normand8:02

      Mm-hmm.

   5. JRJoe Rogan8:02

      ... with, uh, Monty Hoffman, or Monty Franklin rather, Whitney Cummings, and, um, Jim Jefferies.

   6. MNMark Normand8:08

      Oh, wow.

   7. JRJoe Rogan8:08

      Did a benefit for the wildlife, uh, fires, and-

   8. MNMark Normand8:11

      Jefferies must be getting his door knocked down with that shit.

   9. JRJoe Rogan8:13

      Oh, I'm sure, yeah. Well, Monty Franklin's a Australian as well.

   10. MNMark Normand8:16

       Uh-huh.

   11. JRJoe Rogan8:17

       So it was a double Australian, double American card.

   12. MNMark Normand8:19

       Oh, boy.

   13. JRJoe Rogan8:20

       Wild.

   14. MNMark Normand8:20

       Yeah.

   15. JRJoe Rogan8:21

       It was a fun show. But, um, when you, you see the devastation, it's crazy. 70% of, uh, Australia is covered in smoke.

   16. MNMark Normand8:28

       Whoa.

   17. JRJoe Rogan8:29

       70%. And it's as big as the United States.

   18. MNMark Normand8:32

       Ah, that's a bummer.

   19. JRJoe Rogan8:33

       Yeah. It's crazy. And they basically have n- n- no way of stopping it. I mean-

   20. MNMark Normand8:38

       Hm.

   21. JRJoe Rogan8:38

       ... unless the rains put it out or it burns all the way to the coast.

   22. MNMark Normand8:43

       Yeah, it's a stupid question, but what is the money gonna do? You know, I know it helps people who are burned.

   23. JRJoe Rogan8:47

       It's for wildlife.

   24. MNMark Normand8:48

       Ah.

   25. JRJoe Rogan8:48

       The money's all for wildlife. T- for... A lot of them have been burned, like they, they had like... a little bit of a presentation.

   26. MNMark Normand8:54

       Uh-huh.

   27. JRJoe Rogan8:54

       Um, uh, you know, I mean, some of them they've rescued and th- they have to put them back into suitable habitat and that's, that's... The m- the money's going to wild... I mean, you're not gonna fix the fucking... the devastation by the fire, like-

   28. MNMark Normand9:08

       Nah.

   29. JRJoe Rogan9:08

       ... not in terms of like the, the plants and the houses and stuff like that. I mean, uh, you can only hope those people who their homes burnt down had some sort of insurance, but how much fucking insurance money is there? I mean-

   30. MNMark Normand9:18

       Yeah.
6. 13:13 – 14:59

   Wokeness, offensiveness, and LA absurdities (Tesla lanes, valets, and “everything is insensitive”)

   1. MNMark Normand13:13

      ... 'til we stop saying that's fire? That's gonna be insensitive after a while.

   2. JRJoe Rogan13:16

      Yeah, everything's gonna be insen- Well, if we let people, if we let the woke brigade keep taking away words-

   3. MNMark Normand13:22

      (laughs)

   4. JRJoe Rogan13:22

      ... we'll be down to grunts and pointing at things.

   5. MNMark Normand13:24

      (laughs) Yeah.

   6. JRJoe Rogan13:25

      Everything will be offensive.

   7. MNMark Normand13:26

      'Cause if you gotta, if you keep progressing-

   8. JRJoe Rogan13:28

      Yeah.

   9. MNMark Normand13:28

      ... something's gotta stop.

   10. JRJoe Rogan13:29

       Everything goes.

   11. MNMark Normand13:30

       Everything goes. Then-

   12. JRJoe Rogan13:31

       Everything goes, eventually. And then even grunts and pointing at things will be offensive to people who are deaf, who use sign language.

   13. MNMark Normand13:36

       (laughs) Right.

   14. JRJoe Rogan13:38

       'Cause now, now you're culturally appropriating from sign language people.

   15. MNMark Normand13:40

       I was driving here on the highway and I thought, "Man, the, uh, the carpool lane's insensitive to lonely single people." Like what if you don't have a friend?

   16. JRJoe Rogan13:47

       Right, well you g-

   17. MNMark Normand13:47

       What if I don't know a guy?

   18. JRJoe Rogan13:48

       You get an electric vehicle, you can ride in the carpool lane.

   19. MNMark Normand13:50

       Is that right?

   20. JRJoe Rogan13:51

       Yes.

   21. MNMark Normand13:51

       Ah.

   22. JRJoe Rogan13:52

       Ah.

   23. MNMark Normand13:52

       There's a loophole for the losers out there.

   24. JRJoe Rogan13:54

       Oh, it's one of the best reasons to have a Tesla.

   25. MNMark Normand13:57

       Yeah.

   26. JRJoe Rogan13:57

       Yeah, get that fucking left lane, baby.

   27. NANarrator14:00

       Woo!

   28. MNMark Normand14:00

       So many Teslas in this town. This is such a wacky, backwards la-la land over here.

   29. JRJoe Rogan14:04

       Oh, it is?

   30. MNMark Normand14:05

       Chipotle's got a fucking valet in LA.
7. 14:59 – 23:33

   Rats as predators: pigeon video, traps, and the dark ecology of cities

   1. JRJoe Rogan14:59

      The, my favorite video in New York is the rat that's killing the pigeon. Did you ever see that video?

   2. MNMark Normand15:03

      No, I never saw that.

   3. JRJoe Rogan15:04

      Oh.

   4. MNMark Normand15:04

      I saw a pizza rat.

   5. JRJoe Rogan15:05

      Yeah, pizza rat ain't shit on p- pigeon-killing rat. The fucking rat's killing a pigeon.

   6. MNMark Normand15:10

      Wow, it's like the woke brigade, they're attacking each other.

   7. JRJoe Rogan15:12

      Takes the pigeon do- Yeah, very similar. Taking the pigeon down-

   8. MNMark Normand15:15

      Uh-huh.

   9. JRJoe Rogan15:16

      ... and, and attacking it, and the pigeon tries to flutter away and the rat fucking chases it down.

   10. MNMark Normand15:19

       Wow!

   11. JRJoe Rogan15:20

       I didn't, I didn't know rats were predatory.

   12. MNMark Normand15:21

       Oh, yeah.

   13. JRJoe Rogan15:21

       I didn't know ... I thought they were mostly just scavengers.

   14. MNMark Normand15:24

       Yeah, I guess so.

   15. JRJoe Rogan15:24

       I didn't know they would actually go after a live thing and attack it and kill it.

   16. MNMark Normand15:27

       Yeah, desperation, man. Was it, was it in the subway area or was it on the street?

   17. JRJoe Rogan15:32

       I think it was on the street, 'cause I don't think pigeons actually go into the subway-

   18. MNMark Normand15:36

       Yeah, that's a good point.

   19. JRJoe Rogan15:36

       ... for the most part.

   20. MNMark Normand15:37

       Good point.

   21. JRJoe Rogan15:37

       Unless they get fucked over and they, they don't know-

   22. MNMark Normand15:39

       Right. (laughs)

   23. JRJoe Rogan15:39

       ... how to get out.

   24. MNMark Normand15:40

       Seen, seen a few in an airport before.

   25. JRJoe Rogan15:41

       Yeah. Oh, here it is. So, here's this, this pigeon, and this rat is-

   26. MNMark Normand15:45

       Oh!

   27. JRJoe Rogan15:45

       ... trying to walk off with this-

   28. MNMark Normand15:47

       Wow!

   29. JRJoe Rogan15:47

       ... fucking pigeon. And it's as big as him. That's what's crazy.

   30. MNMark Normand15:50

       What a bitch-ass pigeon, though. Like, come on, flap it up.
8. 23:33 – 25:42

   Coronavirus origin speculation and how clickbait media shapes narratives

   1. JRJoe Rogan23:33

      But, you know, the coronavirus that... Wuhan coronavirus, whatever it is-

   2. MNMark Normand23:36

      Mm-hmm.

   3. JRJoe Rogan23:37

      ... they think that came from snakes.

   4. MNMark Normand23:38

      Ah.

   5. JRJoe Rogan23:39

      So maybe that was... that's what happened in China. Maybe they fed a fucking rat to a snake, and next-

   6. MNMark Normand23:44

      Right?

   7. JRJoe Rogan23:44

      ... thing you know, Jed's a millionaire.

   8. MNMark Normand23:45

      There you go.

   9. JRJoe Rogan23:46

      And J- Jamie actually has a conspiracy theory about that, do you know?

   10. NANarrator23:48

       Okay, whoa.

   11. JRJoe Rogan23:49

       Do you know?

   12. MNMark Normand23:49

       I don't...

   13. NANarrator23:50

       I didn't make this up.

   14. MNMark Normand23:50

       I know you hate Asians.

   15. NANarrator23:51

       I just read it online.

   16. JRJoe Rogan23:51

       Well, I'm saying-

   17. NANarrator23:52

       It's not me.

   18. JRJoe Rogan23:53

       ... you have one. I mean, I'm not saying-

   19. NANarrator23:54

       All right.

   20. JRJoe Rogan23:54

       ... that it's y- like you've been-

   21. NANarrator23:55

       Okay. Well-

   22. JRJoe Rogan23:56

       ... s- putting them out there.

   23. MNMark Normand23:57

       Let's hear it, Fatty.

   24. NANarrator23:57

       It's not like it's mine in my back pocket of conspiracy theories. So...

   25. JRJoe Rogan23:59

       What is, uh... The conspiracy theory was that there's some sort of a bioweapons thing?

   26. NANarrator24:04

       Yeah, I mean, I'll google it seriously, I don't know.

   27. MNMark Normand24:05

       I'm so glad I never got bitten by the conspiracy bug.

   28. JRJoe Rogan24:08

       Oh, you're so lucky.

   29. NANarrator24:09

       A bio-lab for-

   30. MNMark Normand24:09

       I have no interest.
9. 25:42 – 35:14

   Corporate gigs, getting fired fast, and why audiences police jokes

   1. MNMark Normand25:42

      I, y- you don't do corporate gigs anymore.

   2. JRJoe Rogan25:44

      No.

   3. MNMark Normand25:45

      (laughs) Well, I did one over the holidays 'cause I had, uh, like seven of 'em. They pay amazing. I had to wear a tuxedo. I did a pharmaceutical awards. I got fired within 15 minutes.

   4. JRJoe Rogan25:54

      (laughs)

   5. MNMark Normand25:55

      It was supposed to be three hours.

   6. JRJoe Rogan25:56

      Ah!

   7. MNMark Normand25:58

      They're such queefs over there! It's a ballroom, round tables, tuxedo, beautiful hotel in Philly. They got me a limo out there, crazy money, and I was supposed to, you know, like Ricky Gervais the whole thing, you know? Be an awards guy, present it, talk to 'em, have a speech. And I just did my clean act, the y- act I used to open for Seinfeld, and a lady got offended, and it happened to be the, uh, CEO's wife.

   8. JRJoe Rogan26:21

      Oh, Jesus.

   9. MNMark Normand26:21

      And she bitched him out, and then he bitched me out, and they fired me.

   10. JRJoe Rogan26:24

       Wow.

   11. MNMark Normand26:25

       Yeah.

   12. JRJoe Rogan26:25

       Did you get paid anyway?

   13. MNMark Normand26:26

       I got paid.

   14. JRJoe Rogan26:27

       When?

   15. MNMark Normand26:27

       Yeah. But it's just disheartening. You go, "Hey-"

   16. JRJoe Rogan26:30

       Right.

   17. MNMark Normand26:30

       "... you twats, these jokes have worked on The Tonight Show. What do you want?"

   18. JRJoe Rogan26:33

       Yeah, The Tonight Show's pretty milk.

   19. MNMark Normand26:35

       Yes! Squeaky.

   20. JRJoe Rogan26:37

       Pretty squeaky.

   21. MNMark Normand26:38

       But-

   22. JRJoe Rogan26:38

       Now, how far, um, like, uh, how far along were you, you said 15 minutes into your act, were, were you ramping up the offensiveness?

   23. MNMark Normand26:45

       No. Well, it, I do 15 minutes of jokes out of the gate, like, to open it-

   24. JRJoe Rogan26:49

       Mm-hmm.

   25. MNMark Normand26:49

       ... and then you do the awards for, the whole thing's, like, two and a half hours. And I had a stack of cards, like, "Trisobadibadoo wins for-"

   26. JRJoe Rogan26:56

       Right.

   27. MNMark Normand26:56

       "... best whatever. Muscle relaxer."

   28. JRJoe Rogan26:58

       So, what did the guy say to you when he fired you?

   29. MNMark Normand26:59

       He said, "My wife is offended. How dare you? It was offensive to women." I did a joke about vibrators. And he was like, "You, you gotta get outta here." Like, "That's how dare you."

   30. JRJoe Rogan27:07

       That's offensive to women?
10. 35:14 – 47:48

    Rogan endorsement backlash: politics, media framing, and trans athletes in combat sports

    1. MNMark Normand35:14

       Boy, what a whirlwind year you're in, huh?

    2. JRJoe Rogan35:16

       Strange.

    3. MNMark Normand35:16

       Mm-hmm.

    4. JRJoe Rogan35:17

       Strange to watch it take place 'cause it's so, it's so obvious what it is. It's a-

    5. MNMark Normand35:21

       I know.

    6. JRJoe Rogan35:21

       ... they're using me to make him look bad that he supports me or that he used my endorsement.

    7. MNMark Normand35:28

       Right.

    8. JRJoe Rogan35:28

       I had no idea they were gonna do that either. The Bernie Sanders people just ... And all I said is I'm probably gonna vote for him.

    9. MNMark Normand35:35

       Right.

    10. JRJoe Rogan35:35

        I said I like Tulsi Gabbard, I really love her, or love him. I love Andrew Yang. Those are the people that I think, like ...

    11. MNMark Normand35:40

        Yang Gang.

    12. JRJoe Rogan35:40

        And look, here's, here's a really important point. I'm a fucking moron. If you're basing who you're gonna vote for on president, for, for a president based on my-

    13. MNMark Normand35:49

        Right.

    14. JRJoe Rogan35:49

        ... like, what I like ...

    15. MNMark Normand35:50

        I know.

    16. JRJoe Rogan35:51

        I'm not, I'm not that balls deep into this stuff.

    17. MNMark Normand35:54

        Yeah.

    18. JRJoe Rogan35:54

        Just not. It's not ... I'm not the guy.

    19. MNMark Normand35:56

        It's very strange, and, and this is a little out of left field, but how much of this is based on your look? If you weren't a muscular, bald-headed white guy, I don't know if this would be a ... I'd, I bet this would be a different game.

    20. JRJoe Rogan36:07

        Well, it's easy to paint me as a douchebag.

    21. MNMark Normand36:09

        Right.

    22. JRJoe Rogan36:10

        And also it's, what's really funny is the thing that I said in the video-... was (laughs) exactly what they did. I said, "If you just take the worst aspects of someone, take out everything else, magnify it-"

    23. MNMark Normand36:21

        Right.

    24. JRJoe Rogan36:21

        ... and you, you could paint them out to be a real piece of shit."

    25. MNMark Normand36:24

        Of course. I had 10 texts today. (laughs)

    26. JRJoe Rogan36:25

        But I... (laughs) What I said is that it's hard to do that with Bernie 'cause he's-

    27. MNMark Normand36:29

        Ah.

    28. JRJoe Rogan36:29

        ... he's a really-

    29. MNMark Normand36:30

        He-

    30. JRJoe Rogan36:30

        ... consistent guy.
11. 47:48 – 1:07:11

    Cancel culture mechanics: Twitter as a compassion-killer and the incentive to “snitch”

    1. MNMark Normand47:48

       Mm-hmm.

    2. JRJoe Rogan47:49

       And no one... This is one of the reasons why cancel culture is so ripe.

    3. MNMark Normand47:52

       Right.

    4. JRJoe Rogan47:52

       Because this is the best way to cancel somebody, through a tweet, "Fuck you." Like-

    5. MNMark Normand47:56

       Yeah.

    6. JRJoe Rogan47:56

       Look at how many comics did that with Louis.

    7. MNMark Normand47:58

       Yeah.

    8. JRJoe Rogan47:58

       Uh, well, after the Louis C.K. thing went down, there was a bunch of comics who were like, "Now is my chance."

    9. MNMark Normand48:02

       Right.

    10. JRJoe Rogan48:03

        "I'm gonna move up the ladder." And Tim Dillon ha- posted this awesome Instagram post about that, like recognizing that. Like-

    11. MNMark Normand48:08

        Uh-huh.

    12. JRJoe Rogan48:08

        ... this is what this is. A lot of these people that are virtue signaling are these insanely mediocre, untalented comedians.

    13. MNMark Normand48:13

        (laughs) That tends to be... You don't see-

    14. JRJoe Rogan48:15

        Yes.

    15. MNMark Normand48:15

        ... Michelle Wolf or Michael Che and all this shit.

    16. JRJoe Rogan48:17

        Exactly, exactly. Especially when the, um...... the leaked, uh, audio came out. People are like-

    17. MNMark Normand48:22

        Oh, yeah. Ah.

    18. JRJoe Rogan48:22

        ... "This is, oh, l- he's leaning into it. He's, he's, you know, he's alt-right now." Li- listen-

    19. MNMark Normand48:26

        That hurt my feelings.

    20. JRJoe Rogan48:27

        ... Louis C.K. has always said the most inappropriate shit-

    21. MNMark Normand48:31

        (laughs)

    22. JRJoe Rogan48:31

        ... that's funny.

    23. MNMark Normand48:31

        I know.

    24. JRJoe Rogan48:31

        Go back and ... You guys aren't even fans.

    25. MNMark Normand48:34

        Well, when you tweet this, the, the remorse is much smaller. Like, canceling a guy b- oh, through the computer, you're not gonna feel as much guilt and shame and meanness-

    26. JRJoe Rogan48:42

        Yeah. You don't feel-

    27. MNMark Normand48:43

        ... 'cause it's-

    28. JRJoe Rogan48:43

        You don't feel anything.

    29. MNMark Normand48:43

        ... through a keyboard.

    30. JRJoe Rogan48:44

        You don't feel anything. I'm hoping that social media will evolve to something that you, that people, that will somehow or another allow people to be more compassionate to each other. Or maybe we'll just understand how to use it better and understand-

Episode duration: 2:34:45