Joe Rogan Experience #1423 - Andrew Doyle

1. 0:00 – 15:00

   Three, two, one. This…

   1. JRJoe Rogan0:00

      Three, two, one. This is your unveiling-

   2. ADAndrew Doyle0:04

      Okay.

   3. JRJoe Rogan0:05

      ... because now people know.

   4. ADAndrew Doyle0:06

      That people know, yep. That's it.

   5. JRJoe Rogan0:07

      That, first of all, Titiana.

   6. ADAndrew Doyle0:10

      So, this is the- I should've chosen a, an easier name. Like, uh, no one can get... it's Titania.

   7. JRJoe Rogan0:13

      Titania?

   8. ADAndrew Doyle0:14

      Because she's named after the queen of the fairies in Midsummer Night's Dream.

   9. JRJoe Rogan0:17

      Oh.

   10. ADAndrew Doyle0:17

       But-

   11. JRJoe Rogan0:17

       Tell everybody your real name.

   12. ADAndrew Doyle0:18

       ... my real name's Andrew Doyle.

   13. JRJoe Rogan0:20

       Do you have an issue with people now knowing-

   14. ADAndrew Doyle0:22

       (laughs)

   15. JRJoe Rogan0:23

       ... that, uh, Tatiana or Tit- Titania? Titania? Doesn't-

   16. ADAndrew Doyle0:27

       Titania's... yeah, she totally eclipsed me. I don't, like, I don't have-

   17. JRJoe Rogan0:30

       (laughs)

   18. ADAndrew Doyle0:31

       I'm basically not alive anymore. It's all about her, you know?

   19. JRJoe Rogan0:34

       Oh! Well-

   20. ADAndrew Doyle0:35

       It-

   21. JRJoe Rogan0:35

       ... I, I can't remember how I found out about you on Twitter, but just laughing really hard at something that you wrote. That was so close. You, you do such a good job of, like, blurring the line between outrageously woke and satire.

   22. ADAndrew Doyle0:50

       Yeah, it's that thing of trying to-

   23. JRJoe Rogan0:51

       There you are.

   24. ADAndrew Doyle0:52

       ... try... (sighs)

   25. JRJoe Rogan0:52

       Who's the girl?

   26. ADAndrew Doyle0:54

       Trying to tr- oh, there! Okay. Yeah, so the girl is a composite of four different women-

   27. JRJoe Rogan0:58

       Well, that's good.

   28. ADAndrew Doyle0:59

       ... put together, because I was worried about, you know, I don't wanna get sued or anything like that.

   29. JRJoe Rogan1:01

       Oh, for sure, yeah. So it's not-

   30. ADAndrew Doyle1:02

       Um-
2. 15:00 – 30:00

   Th- uh- …

   1. JRJoe Rogan15:00

   2. ADAndrew Doyle15:00

      Th- uh-

   3. JRJoe Rogan15:00

      Why, if you want a woman of color, like-

   4. ADAndrew Doyle15:02

      (laughs)

   5. JRJoe Rogan15:02

      ... you see, this is the thing. It never ends.

   6. ADAndrew Doyle15:04

      I know.

   7. JRJoe Rogan15:05

      You can't be woke enough. And once it gets to queer woman of color and they've got one of those, they go, "You know what? You should make room for a transgender."

   8. ADAndrew Doyle15:13

      And what if the queer woman of color is really bad at her job?

   9. JRJoe Rogan15:15

      Too bad.

   10. ADAndrew Doyle15:16

       It doesn't matter.

   11. JRJoe Rogan15:17

       You need to adapt. You need to help her-

   12. ADAndrew Doyle15:18

       Right, okay.

   13. JRJoe Rogan15:19

       ... understand that society has fucked her over, and that's why she's not as good as Camille Paglia was.

   14. ADAndrew Doyle15:24

       So again, it gets back to one of their fundamental premises is that they don't believe in objective truth. They think objective truth... This is a postmodern thing, right? They don't believe in it.

   15. JRJoe Rogan15:31

       It's also these people that you're talking about, they haven't built these structures that they wanna tear down.

   16. ADAndrew Doyle15:36

       Right.

   17. JRJoe Rogan15:36

       Right? They're not a part of the construction of these enormous film studios, enormous entertainment, entertainment empires.

   18. ADAndrew Doyle15:44

       Yeah.

   19. JRJoe Rogan15:44

       That's, you know, so they want to step into something that not only have they not built, but they're not capable of building.

   20. ADAndrew Doyle15:51

       Right.

   21. JRJoe Rogan15:51

       Because they're wrapped up in this fucking wacky ideology that doesn't allow you to be creative.

   22. ADAndrew Doyle15:56

       So how do we get out of it? Like, I-

   23. JRJoe Rogan15:57

       I don't... That's a good question. That's why I brought you in here.

   24. ADAndrew Doyle15:59

       (laughs)

   25. JRJoe Rogan16:00

       (laughs) I was hoping you'd know.

   26. ADAndrew Doyle16:02

       Well, I've got ideas.

   27. JRJoe Rogan16:03

       Yeah?

   28. ADAndrew Doyle16:03

       I've got a few ideas, right?

   29. JRJoe Rogan16:04

       Okay.

   30. ADAndrew Doyle16:04

       Because, because I think, I think we're reaching a kind of tipping point. Like I say, like there's so many people who are really sick of it.
3. 30:00 – 45:00

   There was- …

   1. JRJoe Rogan30:00

      no, she was gonna veto, she was gonna-

   2. ADAndrew Doyle30:01

      There was-

   3. JRJoe Rogan30:01

      ... give the transgender student veto power.

   4. ADAndrew Doyle30:04

      Yeah.

   5. JRJoe Rogan30:05

      And help, see if that, l- see, see if you can find that. So-

   6. ADAndrew Doyle30:08

      I mean, for one thing, I wouldn't give a 15-year-old, trans or otherwise, uh, uh, any kind of political- (laughs)

   7. JRJoe Rogan30:12

      No.

   8. ADAndrew Doyle30:13

      ... input.

   9. JRJoe Rogan30:13

      And na- and definitely not a nine-year-old.

   10. ADAndrew Doyle30:15

       No.

   11. JRJoe Rogan30:15

       Any, any kid, God damn it, when you're 15 you don't know what the fuck is going on, you've only been alive for a few months.

   12. ADAndrew Doyle30:20

       Exactly.

   13. JRJoe Rogan30:21

       You really have no idea what's happening.

   14. ADAndrew Doyle30:22

       No. I mean, your frontal lobes aren't developed are they?

   15. JRJoe Rogan30:24

       No.

   16. ADAndrew Doyle30:24

       It's usually about 25 or something.

   17. JRJoe Rogan30:25

       25, yeah.

   18. ADAndrew Doyle30:25

       So I don't... In fact, let's raise the voting age.

   19. JRJoe Rogan30:27

       Yes.

   20. ADAndrew Doyle30:27

       Don't let them... Make it 30.

   21. JRJoe Rogan30:29

       The, the, well, then the real problem would be war.

   22. ADAndrew Doyle30:32

       (laughs)

   23. GUGuest30:32

       I think Bill Maher talked about this story-

   24. ADAndrew Doyle30:35

       Yeah.

   25. GUGuest30:35

       ... on his most recent episode of his show.

   26. ADAndrew Doyle30:37

       Yeah.

   27. GUGuest30:37

       And so it ka- got up in the news again.

   28. ADAndrew Doyle30:39

       Yeah, I saw that.

   29. JRJoe Rogan30:39

       No, but there was a legitimate news story about Elizabeth Warren talking about-

   30. GUGuest30:43

       In that, in that, in that quote it says that Warren indicated she wants Jacob to help her pick her v-
4. 45:00 – 1:00:00

   Thing is, you say…

   1. JRJoe Rogan45:00

      X's and other shit to that.

   2. ADAndrew Doyle45:02

      Thing is, you say it as a joke, and then one day, it'll-

   3. JRJoe Rogan45:04

      It's not a joke.

   4. ADAndrew Doyle45:05

      ... it'll happen, and-

   5. JRJoe Rogan45:06

      I think everything's a joke, but it's not a joke. I mean, it's, it- it can happen.

   6. ADAndrew Doyle45:11

      It d- it does h- I mean, I've, I, uh, the number of times I've tweeted something to take the piss and then it's happened a few months later, I-

   7. JRJoe Rogan45:17

      Oh, yeah.

   8. ADAndrew Doyle45:17

      ... I'm not... Like, it's- it's pretty much all the time now.

   9. JRJoe Rogan45:20

      Oh, yeah.

   10. ADAndrew Doyle45:20

       Um, the- the- the one I often mention, 'cause I- I just, I- it, I- I still can't get over it, was when Titania tweeted about Mary Poppins. You know, the- the, um-

   11. JRJoe Rogan45:28

       Mm-hmm.

   12. ADAndrew Doyle45:29

       There's a scene in Mary Poppins where she has chimney soot on her face.

   13. JRJoe Rogan45:31

       Mm-hmm. Yeah.

   14. ADAndrew Doyle45:32

       And so, T- Titania tweets saying, "This is blackface. This is so racist, blackface."

   15. JRJoe Rogan45:36

       (laughs) I remember that.

   16. ADAndrew Doyle45:37

       That, six months later, The New York Times published an article saying exactly, saying Mary Poppins is racist 'cause of blackface.

   17. JRJoe Rogan45:44

       Because she had soot on her face?

   18. ADAndrew Doyle45:45

       Yeah.

   19. JRJoe Rogan45:45

       Really? Legitimately?

   20. ADAndrew Doyle45:46

       You can- you can find it. It's- it's, um, it's, uh, it's New York Times, and it's, um, Mary Poppins (laughs) , no. Mary Poppins, a nanny's shameful flirting with blackface. That's the headline of that article, right?

   21. JRJoe Rogan45:55

       What?

   22. ADAndrew Doyle45:56

       I'm not making it up. And they used a screenshot of her with chimney soot on, pretty much similar to the screenshot I'd taken six months before, right?

   23. JRJoe Rogan46:03

       (laughs)

   24. ADAndrew Doyle46:03

       It's not blackfa- it's not racist, right?

   25. JRJoe Rogan46:06

       But it's changed so much in six months, like things have shifted so bizarrely.

   26. ADAndrew Doyle46:10

       That's it.

   27. JRJoe Rogan46:10

       Look at this. Mary Poppins and her nanny's shameful flirting with blackface. That is-

   28. ADAndrew Doyle46:13

       Th- this is a major publication.

   29. JRJoe Rogan46:15

       ... that is goddamned hilarious.

   30. ADAndrew Doyle46:17

       But this isn't even, like, some, like, d- blog.
5. 1:00:00 – 1:04:33

   Right. …

   1. JRJoe Rogan1:00:00

      3000 different view, or three million different views-

   2. ADAndrew Doyle1:00:04

      Right.

   3. JRJoe Rogan1:00:04

      ... and no complaints?

   4. ADAndrew Doyle1:00:05

      No complaints. Right? This-

   5. JRJoe Rogan1:00:06

      Mm-hmm. That's, that's crazy.

   6. ADAndrew Doyle1:00:09

      And I know the guy, 'cause I, I, uh, I, I defended him at the time, and then, of course, people said that I'm a Nazi apologist 'cause I ... You know. That's wh- ... Which is utterly, utterly ludicrous. But I know the guy now. He's n- ... He's a nice guy. He's not at all-

   7. JRJoe Rogan1:00:21

      I've seen him interviewed.

   8. ADAndrew Doyle1:00:22

      Yeah.

   9. JRJoe Rogan1:00:22

      What's up, Jamie?

   10. GUGuest1:00:23

       There's a ... While you guys are talking about this, I found a story that happened last week, um-This was a tweet that I, I've kinda gone through it to verify it a little bit. I don't wanna say it's a 100% accurate.

   11. ADAndrew Doyle1:00:31

       Okay.

   12. GUGuest1:00:32

       But this guy got a job interview and I guess he signed up and they found this on his, on their own. He said he did not give them his information. They sent him 351 pages of every tweet he ever liked that had the word "fuck" in it.

   13. ADAndrew Doyle1:00:44

       Wow.

   14. JRJoe Rogan1:00:46

       He said, "I had to get a background check for my job and it turns out the report is a 300 plus page PDF of every single tweet I've ever liked, liked, with the word 'fuck' in it. Enjoy your dystopian BS."

   15. GUGuest1:00:57

       It's like there's a bunch of tweets showing up.

   16. JRJoe Rogan1:00:58

       Waves.

   17. GUGuest1:00:58

       But I, I looked up the company that does this.

   18. JRJoe Rogan1:01:00

       Hold on, go back.

   19. GUGuest1:01:01

       Sorry.

   20. JRJoe Rogan1:01:02

       What does it say? "Update: I came home to a package containing a printout of all 351 pages of it. Obviously, the dystopia cares about wasting paper."

   21. GUGuest1:01:12

       Here's like a for instance of what it looked like.

   22. ADAndrew Doyle1:01:14

       And have they used this to justify not giving him the job? Is that the idea?

   23. JRJoe Rogan1:01:17

       I don't know.

   24. GUGuest1:01:18

       I don't know what happened after that.

   25. ADAndrew Doyle1:01:19

       Right. Okay. Okay.

   26. JRJoe Rogan1:01:19

       He, he liked this tweet, "Merry Christmas to the toddler I saw running across Trader Joe's with a giant bottle of peppermint vodka and Mom running after him like, 'No, no, no, no, no, no, no.' Only."

   27. ADAndrew Doyle1:01:31

       So flagged type, bad. Flagged reason, alcohol.

   28. JRJoe Rogan1:01:35

       Yeah.

   29. ADAndrew Doyle1:01:35

       Post type, liked.

   30. JRJoe Rogan1:01:37

       Yeah. So they, they changed what he was saying.

Episode duration: 2:33:01