Joe Rogan Experience #1426 - Justin Martindale

1. 0:00 – 3:14

   Weed culture in California: smoke-free buildings, brunch blunts, and hotbox yoga

   1. JMJustin Martindale0:00

      I'm not supposed to smoke in my building, so...

   2. JRJoe Rogan0:02

      They don't let you smoke weed in your buil-

   3. JMJustin Martindale0:03

      Yeah.

   4. JRJoe Rogan0:04

      What kind of fucking arcade building-

   5. JMJustin Martindale0:04

      Because it's, because it's legal.

   6. JRJoe Rogan0:07

      Oh.

   7. JMJustin Martindale0:07

      Yeah.

   8. JRJoe Rogan0:08

      That makes sense.

   9. JMJustin Martindale0:08

      (laughs) We can't, we can't do things that are legal anymore.

   10. JRJoe Rogan0:10

       But you can smoke cigarettes in your building, right?

   11. JMJustin Martindale0:12

       No. No, no, no.

   12. JRJoe Rogan0:13

       No?

   13. JMJustin Martindale0:13

       No.

   14. JRJoe Rogan0:13

       Oh, you have a smoke-free building?

   15. JMJustin Martindale0:15

       Yeah.

   16. JRJoe Rogan0:15

       Health-conscious.

   17. JMJustin Martindale0:16

       Mm-hmm.

   18. JRJoe Rogan0:16

       Ah. Well, I get that kind of if, if you say no cigarettes, you kinda have to say no weed, too.

   19. JMJustin Martindale0:23

       But cigarette smoke stays...

   20. JRJoe Rogan0:26

       Yeah.

   21. JMJustin Martindale0:26

       Like, that gets in the walls and in the fabrics and all that stuff.

   22. JRJoe Rogan0:30

       Mm.

   23. JMJustin Martindale0:30

       Like, the weed just kinda...

   24. JRJoe Rogan0:32

       For us.

   25. JMJustin Martindale0:33

       Right.

   26. NANarrator0:33

       (laughs)

   27. JRJoe Rogan0:34

       But I think other people that don't smoke weed, they smell it. They're like, "Ew."

   28. JMJustin Martindale0:36

       Yeah, and those people need to get outta California.

   29. NANarrator0:39

       (laughs)

   30. JMJustin Martindale0:40

       I mean, you s- you smell it everywhere you go now.
2. 3:14 – 8:01

   Coronavirus fears and China’s disinfectant drones: real footage or propaganda?

   1. JRJoe Rogan3:14

      Dude, did you see that fucking video-

   2. JMJustin Martindale3:16

      Which one?

   3. JRJoe Rogan3:16

      ... of China where they're spraying disinfectant in the streets-

   4. JMJustin Martindale3:20

      No.

   5. JRJoe Rogan3:21

      ... to try to kill the coronavirus? Jamie, it's on my, uh... Is that bullshit?

   6. JMJustin Martindale3:24

      But they do that shit in Arkansas.

   7. NANarrator3:26

      Some of them are, yeah.

   8. JRJoe Rogan3:27

      (clears throat)

   9. NANarrator3:27

      Some of it's bullshit. Some of them are real, but some of them, I think, are not accurate videos of what they're saying it is.

   10. JRJoe Rogan3:30

       I don't know. I've s- I've, I've seen it on a couple different spots online.

   11. NANarrator3:33

       I've seen it too. I've seen var- various ones. Some of them look a little more egregious.

   12. JRJoe Rogan3:35

       Let's, let's pretend we're, we're ignorant-

   13. NANarrator3:37

       Oh, right, right, right, right.

   14. JRJoe Rogan3:37

       ... and we don't know any better, but l- watch the video because it's fucking bonkers, man. They're, they're driving through the streets spraying everything at street level.

   15. NANarrator3:45

       They were, the thing I saw going around before, which is you didn't s-... They were spraying with drones. They were using drones to actually do it.

   16. JRJoe Rogan3:49

       Oh.

   17. NANarrator3:50

       They're, like, flying around people and like... (mimicking spraying)

   18. JMJustin Martindale3:51

       Uh. Oh, I didn't see that. It begins...

   19. JRJoe Rogan3:52

       Oh my God.

   20. NANarrator3:52

       Yeah. Well, do-

   21. JMJustin Martindale3:53

       But see, they do that in the south with mosquitoes.

   22. NANarrator3:55

       Right. Yes.

   23. JMJustin Martindale3:56

       So it's kinda like that.

   24. JRJoe Rogan3:57

       Fucking terrible for YouTube, by the way.

   25. JMJustin Martindale3:58

       Oh, of course.

   26. JRJoe Rogan3:59

       If you've breathed that shit in, if it kills mosquitoes, it'll kill you too.

   27. JMJustin Martindale4:01

       Absolutely.

   28. JRJoe Rogan4:02

       That fucking stuff is awful, man.

   29. JMJustin Martindale4:03

       All of our relatives were like, "Go play outside." We're like, "Is this safe?" And they're like, "Yeah." (laughs) It's just off.

   30. JRJoe Rogan4:08

       Do you... You know, let a l- well, let me... Let's watch this real quick, but then-
3. 8:01 – 8:45

   Everyday hygiene panic: coughing on planes and selfish public behavior

   1. JMJustin Martindale8:01

      I had it, um... I was on a, a plane couple of weeks ago flying from New Orleans back here, and I had this Viking woman behind me just open mouth coughing.

   2. JRJoe Rogan8:12

      Oh.

   3. JMJustin Martindale8:12

      And I had... I, I was like, first of all, no.

   4. JRJoe Rogan8:16

      Yeah.

   5. JMJustin Martindale8:16

      Second of all, I had to turn around and say, "Hey, can you please cover your mouth?" And I had to do that to an adult woman.

   6. JRJoe Rogan8:22

      Yeah.

   7. JMJustin Martindale8:22

      And it made me feel weird.

   8. JRJoe Rogan8:23

      Some people are just fucking selfish.

   9. JMJustin Martindale8:24

      Just (choking sounds) on a plane.

   10. JRJoe Rogan8:26

       Some people, th- they just don't care. They're just selfish.

   11. NANarrator8:29

       (clears throat)

   12. JMJustin Martindale8:29

       Yeah.

   13. JRJoe Rogan8:29

       Yeah. They don't even care that other people feel uncomfortable. They're just like, "I have to cough."

   14. JMJustin Martindale8:33

       Yeah, and you're gonna all experience it.

   15. JRJoe Rogan8:35

       Yeah.

   16. JMJustin Martindale8:35

       (laughs)

   17. JRJoe Rogan8:35

       If some people, if they're sick, they want you to be sick. They don't... They're not happy.

   18. JMJustin Martindale8:39

       Malicious-

   19. JRJoe Rogan8:40

       Fucking assholes.

   20. JMJustin Martindale8:41

       ... and malignant.

   21. JRJoe Rogan8:42

       Assholes.

   22. JMJustin Martindale8:42

       Mm-hmm.

   23. JRJoe Rogan8:43

       I'm worried.

   24. JMJustin Martindale8:44

       (laughs) Don't be.

4. 8:45 – 11:58

   Glyphosate (Roundup) and chemical exposure: lawsuits, regulators, and “just pull the weeds”

   1. JRJoe Rogan8:45

      You know what I've been worried about a lot about lately is glyphosate.

   2. JMJustin Martindale8:48

      (laughs)

   3. JRJoe Rogan8:48

      I've been reading into glyphosate.

   4. JMJustin Martindale8:50

      Same. What is that? (laughs) You can't just glyphosate me. What is that?

   5. JRJoe Rogan8:55

      It's Roundup. It's a, it's a chemical that they use for, um, a pesticide-

   6. JMJustin Martindale9:01

      Oh.

   7. JRJoe Rogan9:02

      ... for, for agriculture. And, uh, I was reading this whole thing about glyphosate and how toxic it is and how many people have gotten cancer from glyphosate and how often they use glyphosate on vegetables.

   8. JMJustin Martindale9:13

      Yeah.

   9. JRJoe Rogan9:14

      I'm like, "Motherfucker."

   10. JMJustin Martindale9:15

       That's why you have to wash your vegetables.

   11. JRJoe Rogan9:17

       I don't think I need to wa-

   12. JMJustin Martindale9:18

       Yeah, it does it. It's all in there anyways.

   13. JRJoe Rogan9:19

       You know. Here it is. As many as 85,000 glyphosate cancer lawsuits significantly closer to settlement after federal trial suspended. Yeah, there's a lot of motherfuckers that got cancer from this shit.

   14. JMJustin Martindale9:30

       That's the Roundup. That's the, uh-

   15. JRJoe Rogan9:31

       Yes, Roundup.

   16. JMJustin Martindale9:32

       ... weed, the weed-

   17. JRJoe Rogan9:33

       Exactly.

   18. JMJustin Martindale9:34

       ... thing, right?

   19. JRJoe Rogan9:34

       Mm-hmm. Yeah.

   20. JMJustin Martindale9:35

       Kills your weeds.

   21. JRJoe Rogan9:37

       Um, I think it kills pesticides. It's, it's weed and... What does it say there? Scroll down. Scroll back up there. No, the, the actual image of the gly... Oh, God damn it. These pop-ups.

   22. JMJustin Martindale9:46

       (laughs)

   23. JRJoe Rogan9:46

       What does it say? It says weed and grass killer. Okay, so it is... It's not a pesticide. It's just, it's just for weeds.

   24. JMJustin Martindale9:53

       Yeah.

   25. JRJoe Rogan9:54

       But what... I bet, I bet it kills pests too.

   26. JMJustin Martindale9:56

       Oh, it kills everything.

   27. JRJoe Rogan9:57

       But they're, um, they... Apparently, a lot of people that are gardeners and that are working on, um, um, uh, golf courses, golf courses apparently get it a lot because y- you know, they spray that shit everywhere-

   28. JMJustin Martindale10:11

       Yeah.

   29. JRJoe Rogan10:11

       ... because they want everything to just be grass.

   30. JMJustin Martindale10:14

       But does it leave, like, a brown spot, or...
5. 11:58 – 14:41

   LA runoff, the “fake” LA River, and recycled water: pollution in the system

   1. JRJoe Rogan11:58

      There's a, another yoga guy that I know that teaches yoga and, uh, he didn't know that you're not supposed to swim in the ocean right after the rain.

   2. JMJustin Martindale12:08

      What? (laughs)

   3. JRJoe Rogan12:08

      In Los Angeles, apparently, it's super dangerous-

   4. JMJustin Martindale12:12

      And polluted.

   5. JRJoe Rogan12:12

      ... to get in that ocean. Yeah, because all the runoff-

   6. JMJustin Martindale12:15

      Mm-hmm.

   7. JRJoe Rogan12:15

      ... because the way LA's system is, you know, the LA River and all that jazz-

   8. JMJustin Martindale12:18

      Well-

   9. JRJoe Rogan12:18

      ... which is sort of a fake river-

   10. JMJustin Martindale12:19

       It's not even a river at all.

   11. JRJoe Rogan12:20

       But it's perfect for LA.

   12. JMJustin Martindale12:22

       (laughs) Makes sense.

   13. JRJoe Rogan12:22

       Calling the LA River, the LA River. It is perfect when you look at it, like, "Oh, yeah, it's fake."It's perfect. (laughs)

   14. JMJustin Martindale12:28

       It's literally, it's just a concrete stream.

   15. JRJoe Rogan12:30

       Yeah.

   16. JMJustin Martindale12:31

       Yeah.

   17. JRJoe Rogan12:31

       Uh, well, it's like a fucking gross drainage-

   18. JMJustin Martindale12:34

       Yeah.

   19. JRJoe Rogan12:34

       ... it's just enormous.

   20. JMJustin Martindale12:35

       Mm-hmm.

   21. JRJoe Rogan12:35

       Well, when that bitch goes down into the ocean, it carries with it all the garbage, all the chemicals, oil from the streets, all that stuff.

   22. JMJustin Martindale12:45

       Needles.

   23. JRJoe Rogan12:45

       Needles.

   24. JMJustin Martindale12:45

       Yeah.

   25. JRJoe Rogan12:45

       And it's all in the water. And so when you go surfing right after that, you get really fucking sick. And he was telling me he got deathly ill-

   26. JMJustin Martindale12:53

       (sighs)

   27. JRJoe Rogan12:53

       ... because he just didn't know any better. He was just out there and he's from Argentina-

   28. JMJustin Martindale12:57

       Mm-hmm.

   29. JRJoe Rogan12:58

       ... I guess, where it's not as much of an issue there. And he was in that water and he got fucked up. He said he was a, he was a wreck for like two weeks.

   30. JMJustin Martindale13:05

       Yeah, that'll knock you out.
6. 14:41 – 21:04

   Prepping, survival food scams, and Jim Bakker’s infamous “bucket gruel”

   1. JRJoe Rogan14:41

      People are just not supposed to live that stacked on top of each other like that.

   2. JMJustin Martindale14:45

      Ugh.

   3. JRJoe Rogan14:46

      We're supposed to live in small villages-

   4. JMJustin Martindale14:47

      I know.

   5. JRJoe Rogan14:47

      ... in the woods with just enough food.

   6. JMJustin Martindale14:49

      I'm down for that. I want a tiny home.

   7. JRJoe Rogan14:51

      Do you?

   8. JMJustin Martindale14:51

      Yeah.

   9. NANarrator14:51

      You want one of them little mobile things that-

   10. JMJustin Martindale14:53

       Yeah, a little tiny home in the woods.

   11. JRJoe Rogan14:54

       Really?

   12. JMJustin Martindale14:55

       Uh, with a fire pit out front.

   13. JRJoe Rogan14:56

       Could you survive in the woods?

   14. JMJustin Martindale14:57

       Probably not.

   15. JRJoe Rogan14:58

       (laughs)

   16. JMJustin Martindale14:58

       But I have a lesbian friend.

   17. NANarrator14:59

       (laughs)

   18. JRJoe Rogan15:01

       (laughs)

   19. JMJustin Martindale15:01

       Yeah. Her name's Denise.

   20. JRJoe Rogan15:02

       (laughs) Lesbian friends are good.

   21. JMJustin Martindale15:04

       Yeah.

   22. JRJoe Rogan15:04

       The ones with those, uh, Patagonia vests?

   23. JMJustin Martindale15:06

       Oh, yeah. Every carabiner.

   24. NANarrator15:08

       Yeah.

   25. JRJoe Rogan15:08

       Yeah. (laughs)

   26. JMJustin Martindale15:08

       She, I mean, she, she's on survival mode 24/7.

   27. JRJoe Rogan15:11

       Carabiners.

   28. JMJustin Martindale15:11

       She's got... We have earthquake drills every day. Yeah.

   29. JRJoe Rogan15:14

       Really?

   30. JMJustin Martindale15:14

       Not really. (laughs)
7. 21:04 – 28:46

   Gay vs. lesbian communities, stereotypes, and conversion-therapy horror stories

   1. JRJoe Rogan21:04

      Why is it that lesbians have never been able to form a proper neighborhood, but gay guys can do it in almost every town?

   2. JMJustin Martindale21:12

      Hmm. I feel-

   3. JRJoe Rogan21:13

      You know?

   4. JMJustin Martindale21:13

      ... like gay guys push the lesbians out.

   5. JRJoe Rogan21:16

      You think so?

   6. JMJustin Martindale21:16

      But lesbians are smarter because they'll form their own tribe.

   7. JRJoe Rogan21:19

      Yeah, but they never develop, like ... Like, Boystown is legendary, right? It's like-

   8. JMJustin Martindale21:24

      Mm-hmm.

   9. JRJoe Rogan21:25

      It's ... It is.

   10. JMJustin Martindale21:26

       Eh.

   11. JRJoe Rogan21:26

       It's a gay ... Five blocks of gay.

   12. JMJustin Martindale21:29

       (laughs)

   13. JRJoe Rogan21:29

       Right?

   14. JMJustin Martindale21:30

       I call it home. (laughs)

   15. JRJoe Rogan21:32

       (laughs) Well, that's, that's your spot.

   16. JMJustin Martindale21:33

       Yeah.

   17. JRJoe Rogan21:34

       But if you think about it, there's no lesbian equivalent anywhere on Earth ... that I know of.

   18. JMJustin Martindale21:40

       Uh ...

   19. JRJoe Rogan21:40

       Is there, like, a legitimate lesbian community where it's only lesbians, and they get together and do lesbian things, and wear cowboy hats and G-strings-

   20. JMJustin Martindale21:47

       Yeah.

   21. JRJoe Rogan21:47

       ... and shit?

   22. JMJustin Martindale21:47

       Yeah. They have their own ... I mean, that's the thing. I feel like guys are more ... They wanna be in charge more, where lesbians can kinda just form their own little side neighborhoods. They don't need the credit. You know what I mean?

   23. JRJoe Rogan22:00

       D- but do they?

   24. JMJustin Martindale22:01

       No. I feel like-

   25. JRJoe Rogan22:02

       But do- but people would know.

   26. JMJustin Martindale22:03

       There's a-

   27. JRJoe Rogan22:03

       If they had a, like, a legit lesbian neighborhood, like Girls Town, people would know.

   28. JMJustin Martindale22:08

       But would you wanna go to Girls Town?

   29. JRJoe Rogan22:10

       Oh yeah.

   30. JMJustin Martindale22:11

       Yeah? Why?
8. 28:46 – 38:15

   Bible contradictions, ‘cloven hoof’ rules, and psychedelics behind religious visions

   1. JRJoe Rogan28:46

      Why does he say in the Bible that a man should marry a woman then?

   2. JMJustin Martindale28:49

      Where it's like... Uh... It's just-

   3. JRJoe Rogan28:50

      I totally respect you on that.

   4. JMJustin Martindale28:50

      Yeah, it's just sad. It's just like, I, I... In the Bible, it says this, and it's like, well, in the Bible it says... You can always counter... Go, go against what the Bible says from a different verse. It's like, it doesn't say to eat shrimp or pork or anything like that.

   5. JRJoe Rogan29:04

      Yeah.

   6. JMJustin Martindale29:04

      But, you know, I'll see half these people at a Chili's buffet, you know, just going to town.

   7. JRJoe Rogan29:08

      Yeah, eating a lot of shellfish.

   8. JMJustin Martindale29:10

      Mm-hmm.

   9. JRJoe Rogan29:10

      You imagine if you got all the way up to heaven-

   10. JMJustin Martindale29:12

       No.

   11. JRJoe Rogan29:12

       ... and, uh, God was like, uh, "Look, I don't care about guys fucking guys."

   12. JMJustin Martindale29:16

       Mm-hmm.

   13. JRJoe Rogan29:17

       "All that clams. You guys are assholes."

   14. JMJustin Martindale29:19

       (laughs)

   15. JRJoe Rogan29:19

       "It says in the fucking Bible, 'Don't eat clams.' Why, why'd you eat clams? Did you read what I said?"

   16. JMJustin Martindale29:24

       "It was Mardi Gras, I couldn't help myself."

   17. JRJoe Rogan29:26

       "Why are you wearing two different kinds of cloth?"

   18. JMJustin Martindale29:28

       (laughs)

   19. JRJoe Rogan29:28

       "You don't wear two different kinds of cloth."

   20. JMJustin Martindale29:30

       I know.

   21. JRJoe Rogan29:31

       That's in the fucking Bible.

   22. JMJustin Martindale29:32

       And that's the gayest thing too. Like, if God... If I did my whole job on Earth and I got to heaven and, and God was like, "Girl..."

   23. JRJoe Rogan29:40

       (laughs)

   24. JMJustin Martindale29:40

       "... two kinds of cloth?" I'm like, "Wait, what? No."

   25. JRJoe Rogan29:43

       (laughs)

   26. JMJustin Martindale29:43

       Back to hell you go.

   27. JRJoe Rogan29:45

       Wait!

   28. JMJustin Martindale29:46

       (laughs)

   29. JRJoe Rogan29:47

       Well, also, the Bible clearly seen the hand of man.

   30. JMJustin Martindale29:51

       Mm-hmm.
9. 38:15 – 40:23

   Mushroom decriminalization and microdosing: Silicon Valley, fighters, and mental health

   1. JRJoe Rogan38:15

      That's next. That's next for decriminalization.

   2. JMJustin Martindale38:18

      Mushrooms?

   3. JRJoe Rogan38:18

      Yeah. That's next. They're gonna make that happen. They're gonna make it happen. It's already decriminalized in Colorado.

   4. JMJustin Martindale38:24

      Right, right.

   5. JRJoe Rogan38:25

      My friend Rashad Evans was here yesterday, he was talking about it. I think they're gonna pull that off in California as well.

   6. JMJustin Martindale38:30

      They have to.

   7. JRJoe Rogan38:31

      They... Just like-

   8. JMJustin Martindale38:32

      Because like-

   9. JRJoe Rogan38:32

      Just even for microdosing. If we could just get everyone to microdose, the world would be so much better.

   10. JMJustin Martindale38:37

       I feel like that's the new trend right now. I hear that all the time.

   11. JRJoe Rogan38:40

       Yes.

   12. JMJustin Martindale38:40

       Everyone's just like, "I just microdose. I just microdose."

   13. JRJoe Rogan38:42

       I've done it a bunch of times.

   14. JMJustin Martindale38:43

       Someone I know, I know somebody who microdoses acid. I'm like, "Shit."

   15. JRJoe Rogan38:46

       A lot of guys in Silicon Valley do.

   16. JMJustin Martindale38:48

       That's crazy.

   17. JRJoe Rogan38:49

       Yeah. They think it, it keeps all their negative chatter at bay.

   18. JMJustin Martindale38:53

       (clears throat)

   19. JRJoe Rogan38:53

       I had a buddy of mine who was just here the other day who microdoses. He says he takes it every three or four days.

   20. JMJustin Martindale38:58

       Acid?

   21. JRJoe Rogan38:58

       That's his thing. No, no, no. Uh-

   22. JMJustin Martindale39:00

       Mushrooms?

   23. JRJoe Rogan39:01

       ... mushrooms.

   24. JMJustin Martindale39:01

       Like the little capsules?

   25. JRJoe Rogan39:02

       Mm-hmm.

   26. JMJustin Martindale39:02

       The little pills?

   27. JRJoe Rogan39:02

       Yeah, they grind it up.

   28. JMJustin Martindale39:03

       Uh-huh.

   29. JRJoe Rogan39:04

       They grind up the mushrooms and he'll take one capsule every three or four days and it keeps... He said it just keeps negativity out of his head, keeps him positive-

   30. JMJustin Martindale39:11

       Wow.
10. 40:23 – 44:32

    Weed laws across the US and the 2016 ‘end of the world’ election-night memories

    1. JRJoe Rogan40:23

       And as it spreads across the country, the, the legality, I think it's legal, state legal, in, what, nine states?

    2. JMJustin Martindale40:30

       Something like that, yeah.

    3. JRJoe Rogan40:31

       And then medically legal in, like, 18 or something?

    4. JMJustin Martindale40:35

       Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm.

    5. JRJoe Rogan40:35

       How many... Let's find out.

    6. JMJustin Martindale40:36

       Let's try.

    7. JRJoe Rogan40:36

       How many states?

    8. JMJustin Martindale40:37

       Let's try it.

    9. JRJoe Rogan40:38

       Jamie, let's try.

    10. JMJustin Martindale40:38

        Siri, Alexa.

    11. JRJoe Rogan40:39

        I think it's, uh... I'm gonna say nine states legal-

    12. JMJustin Martindale40:43

        (laughs) I'm gonna go-

    13. JRJoe Rogan40:43

        ... 18 states medical.

    14. JMJustin Martindale40:45

        Okay.

    15. JRJoe Rogan40:46

        Is that right, Jamie? Let's find out.

    16. JMJustin Martindale40:48

        I think f-

    17. JRJoe Rogan40:50

        Look at that. Oh, shit. All those green?

    18. NANarrator40:53

        Yeah, the dark.

    19. JRJoe Rogan40:54

        The dark is legal-

    20. JMJustin Martindale40:55

        The dark is legal, yeah. Nevada-

    21. JRJoe Rogan40:56

        And all the other ones are what? Medical?

    22. JMJustin Martindale40:59

        Yeah.

    23. JRJoe Rogan40:59

        So everything's medical?

    24. JMJustin Martindale41:02

        Well, Texas isn't. I know... I don't think Texas is.

    25. JRJoe Rogan41:05

        Oh, what is Texas? Get-

    26. NANarrator41:06

        Texas is still-

    27. JRJoe Rogan41:06

        Get to Texas. Go to Texas.

    28. NANarrator41:07

        But the light green is-

    29. JRJoe Rogan41:08

        Texas. Texas. Get to Texas.

    30. NANarrator41:09

        ... you know, well, so the light green is nothing.
11. 44:32 – 53:05

    Democratic primary distrust: Mayor Pete, Bernie, billionaire backing, and the ‘rigged’ coin flip

    1. JRJoe Rogan44:32

       They had this idea. Well, people have these ideas of what's good and what's not good, what's gonna happen and not gonna... Which brings me back to this Mayor Pete guy.

    2. JMJustin Martindale44:39

       Mm-hmm.

    3. JRJoe Rogan44:39

       They, they came up with that guy because they said, "Look, here he is, he's a young, handsome guy. He's gay. He's a mayor. He speaks well."

    4. JMJustin Martindale44:48

       He's served in the military, yeah.

    5. JRJoe Rogan44:50

       I think he was a, he was a veteran, but- So like, this'll be the guy. But he's also backed by all these billionaires. Like it's a fucking... it's a shell game.

    6. JMJustin Martindale44:57

       What do you mean? He's got a wine cave. Leave him alone. (laughs)

    7. JRJoe Rogan44:59

       (laughs) He's got a wine cave? What does that mean?

    8. JMJustin Martindale45:01

       Well, didn't... wasn't like, Elizabeth Warren said something, like he had this fundraiser at a wine cave? Like, yeah, it was all these like rich billionaires, and it was like a, a, a, a cave.

    9. JRJoe Rogan45:11

       Well-

    10. JMJustin Martindale45:11

        What is it called? A wine cellar, but it happened to be a cave, somewhere out here in California.

    11. JRJoe Rogan45:15

        They're just trying really hard to keep it from being Bernie. Really hard.

    12. JMJustin Martindale45:18

        Oh, yeah.

    13. JRJoe Rogan45:19

        They don't want Bernie Sanders.

    14. JMJustin Martindale45:21

        Yeah.

    15. JRJoe Rogan45:21

        If he get, if he gets in there... Apparently, you know, he was an Independent for so long, and he doesn't wanna play ball, and he doesn't accept any money, doesn't ac- accept any money from any-

    16. JMJustin Martindale45:29

        He's just like a cool grandpa.

    17. JRJoe Rogan45:30

        Yeah.

    18. JMJustin Martindale45:31

        I think he's... I mean, shit, I, I love Bernie. You know why? 'Cause he... Like, you could say, "Oh, happy Martin Luther King Day." That's... But then you look at an old picture of him, and he's marching next to Martin Luther King-

    19. JRJoe Rogan45:42

        Yes. Right.

    20. JMJustin Martindale45:43

        ... for civil rights.

    21. JRJoe Rogan45:44

        Yeah.

    22. JMJustin Martindale45:44

        That's amazing. You can't be like, "No." Like, where were you?

    23. JRJoe Rogan45:48

        Right.

    24. JMJustin Martindale45:49

        You know? It's like, I, I just... I don't know. I, I have hope. I have hope for somebody just to-

    25. JRJoe Rogan45:55

        I have hope for him socially.

    26. JMJustin Martindale45:56

        Yeah.

    27. JRJoe Rogan45:57

        I like, I like what he stands for socially.

    28. JMJustin Martindale45:59

        But then you look at-

    29. JRJoe Rogan46:00

        I don't know if economically it's feasible.

    30. JMJustin Martindale46:02

        I-
12. 53:05 – 1:00:21

    Homelessness and mental illness in LA: personal stories and systemic failures

    1. JMJustin Martindale53:05

       And on the way over here too, I was just looking at all these tents and it's just so fucking sad. It's so sad.

    2. JRJoe Rogan53:11

       It's really sad and it keeps growing.

    3. JMJustin Martindale53:13

       It keeps growing. I live in West Hollywood and I remember like a couple of years ago 'cause, you know, it went from downtown and then downtown pushes them all out so they keep going west, keep going west. Some go to the beach, some go to Santa Monica.

    4. JRJoe Rogan53:23

       Mm-hmm.

    5. JMJustin Martindale53:23

       But now it's like I live in an area that, you know, six, seven years ago, it was, it was fine but now it's like even on the way to go get coffee this morning, I walk everywhere I go, it's like, I saw like three, three homeless people just outside just screaming at nothing. You know, they're in tattered clothes and they're dirty and they're, you know. I went... I used to work with a girl years ago, um, at a restaurant when I waited tables and she's now homeless and she's like out of her mind and I feel bad 'cause like-

    6. JRJoe Rogan53:54

       Was she always out of her mind?

    7. JMJustin Martindale53:55

       No. No. She, her, you know, her name was Lotus. You know, she did yoga and now-

    8. JRJoe Rogan54:01

       What happened?

    9. JMJustin Martindale54:02

       I don't know. I don't know.

    10. JRJoe Rogan54:03

        Did you try to talk to her?

    11. JMJustin Martindale54:04

        I did when... It was like I got to watch the progression of-

    12. JRJoe Rogan54:08

        The crazy?

    13. JMJustin Martindale54:08

        ... the illness. Yes.

    14. JRJoe Rogan54:10

        Mm-hmm.

    15. JMJustin Martindale54:10

        So I would see her every now and then I was like, "Hey, what's going on?" 'Cause like back when the recession happened, you know, we were waiting tables so we bounced from job to job because one day we'd go to work and there'd be chains on the door 'cause they couldn't pay us. So we had this little kinda group that we would go apply together at different jobs. And then I started seeing her out on the street just walking around and I was like, "Hey, what's going on? Hope you're, hope you're doing well." Da, da, da, da. And she just kinda never let me know how she was really doing and then like a couple years would go by and I'd see her and I'm like, "Hmm, she looks a little out of it." And I would say hi to her and she wouldn't respond and then now it's full on like teeth are missing and-

    16. JRJoe Rogan54:46

        Oh, fuck.

    17. JMJustin Martindale54:46

        ... running down the street crying and it just breaks my heart 'cause it's like I don't know what to do and I don't know if she would be willing or, uh-

    18. JRJoe Rogan54:54

        How tight were you with her? You got, you got her phone number? The whole deal.

    19. JMJustin Martindale54:57

        No. No. No. No. I don't, I mean, I don't even know if she has a phone. I can't-

    20. JRJoe Rogan54:59

        Right. But did you at one point in time have her phone number?

    21. JMJustin Martindale55:01

        I think so. Yeah. Yeah.

    22. JRJoe Rogan55:02

        Yeah. Fuck.

    23. JMJustin Martindale55:02

        And it's like, it's just that like inner guilt and you're just like-

    24. JRJoe Rogan55:04

        Yeah.

    25. JMJustin Martindale55:04

        ... "God, how did it get so bad?" She had an apartment, you know, I think her parents passed away and that might have like set her, you know, spiraling but, yeah, I remember just like doing a spot at the Laugh Factory one night and walking outside and you know how everyone... they just keep everyone outside like you do (laughs) and, and she just like barreled through everybody just screaming nonsense and like she had like teeth missing and-

    26. JRJoe Rogan55:28

        Oh.

    27. JMJustin Martindale55:28

        It's just sad. It's just really, really sad. And then I'm at the gym working out and I'll see her like down there, you know, with her garbage and everything and, uh, yeah. She doesn't... Uh, it, it's just sad. It's, it's a lost cause.

    28. JRJoe Rogan55:40

        So when you knew her, she didn't seem like she had any mental health issues?

    29. JMJustin Martindale55:44

        No.

    30. JRJoe Rogan55:45

        Really?
13. 1:00:21 – 1:14:49

    Comedy survival in LA: near-breaking points, The Comedy Store as a ‘home,’ and Mitzi Shore’s stamp

    1. JRJoe Rogan1:00:21

       There are people, though, that you meet in this town, when you meet them early in their journey-

    2. JMJustin Martindale1:00:26

       Mm-hmm.

    3. JRJoe Rogan1:00:26

       ... and they still have hope. Like, "It's not worked out yet, but it's gonna. I'm gonna make it." And then you run into ... And comics, you see.

    4. JMJustin Martindale1:00:34

       Yeah, oh, I mean, that's the thing I think I'm, it's so relatable in our field-

    5. JRJoe Rogan1:00:37

       Yeah.

    6. JMJustin Martindale1:00:37

       ... as well 'cause you-

    7. JRJoe Rogan1:00:38

       Yeah.

    8. JMJustin Martindale1:00:38

       ... you know those people.

    9. JRJoe Rogan1:00:40

       Yeah, we do know those people.

    10. JMJustin Martindale1:00:40

        I've al- I wanna say, I almost was one of those people.

    11. JRJoe Rogan1:00:43

        Were you?

    12. JMJustin Martindale1:00:44

        Oh, yeah.

    13. JRJoe Rogan1:00:44

        When?

    14. JMJustin Martindale1:00:45

        What time? I mean-

    15. JRJoe Rogan1:00:47

        Give me a time where it w- like ...

    16. JMJustin Martindale1:00:49

        2002 and then 2005.

    17. JRJoe Rogan1:00:55

        Really?

    18. JMJustin Martindale1:00:55

        And then two thous- Yeah, I mean, there were several-

    19. JRJoe Rogan1:00:57

        Well, I didn't meet you until when? 2007-ish?

    20. JMJustin Martindale1:01:00

        I wanna say, yeah, I think I met you at, um, the Icehouse when we were podcasting-

    21. JRJoe Rogan1:01:05

        Ah.

    22. JMJustin Martindale1:01:06

        ... out there.

    23. JRJoe Rogan1:01:07

        Ah, that's right.

    24. JMJustin Martindale1:01:07

        Yeah, and then, and then when you came back to the store-

    25. JRJoe Rogan1:01:10

        That was like '14.

    26. JMJustin Martindale1:01:11

        Yeah.

    27. JRJoe Rogan1:01:11

        This was either '14, yeah.

    28. JMJustin Martindale1:01:12

        Yeah, this is when I saw you again, and even then, it was like, you know, making it work, and I remember you looked at me, and you go, "You're the weirdest gay guy I've ever met." And I was like, "Fuck yeah." (laughs)

    29. JRJoe Rogan1:01:22

        Why did I say that?

    30. JMJustin Martindale1:01:23

        I don't know. (laughs)

Episode duration: 2:10:18