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Joe Rogan Experience #1430 - Raghunath Cappo

Raghunath Cappo was the vocalist for punk bands Youth of Today and Shelter, and after living as a monk is now a yoga teacher and is the host of the "Wisdom of the Sages" podcast. https://www.youtube.com/wisdomofthesages

Joe RoganhostRaghunath CappoguestGuest (secondary questioner, likely in-room producer or companion)guest
Feb 20, 20202h 57mWatch on YouTube ↗

At a glance

WHAT IT’S REALLY ABOUT

From Hardcore Punk to Hare Krishna: Jiu-Jitsu, Yoga, and Karma

  1. Joe Rogan and Raghunath Cappo (aka “Yoga Ray”) reconnect after years to discuss their shared history in early no‑gi jiu-jitsu, the rise of 10th Planet, and the influence of teachers like Jean Jacques Machado and Renzo Gracie.
  2. Raghunath traces his journey from New York hardcore frontman to Hindu monk and yoga teacher, exploring how yoga, chanting, and Vedic philosophy reshaped his views on ego, health, violence, and purpose.
  3. They dig into diet debates, independent thinking, the impact of environment and nature on consciousness, and how practices like jiu-jitsu and yoga change one’s reactions under extreme stress.
  4. The conversation repeatedly returns to themes of karma, ego, and dharma—how our choices, habits, and inner stories shape our experience, and how ancient texts like the Bhagavad Gita can be applied in a modern, practical way.

IDEAS WORTH REMEMBERING

5 ideas

Jiu-jitsu and yoga both train calm under pressure.

Rolling in jiu-jitsu and disciplined yoga practice condition you to stay relaxed and think clearly in high‑stress situations—whether that’s a street altercation, a health scare, or emotional conflict.

You are not your thoughts; examine and replace unhelpful mental loops.

Raghunath emphasizes that thoughts are like mantras on repeat, often inherited from family or culture; consciously noticing and swapping self‑loathing or divisive narratives for more constructive or spiritual ones can change behavior and outcomes.

Independent thinking requires resisting ideological “uniforms.”

Locking into a fixed identity—political, dietary, religious—can shut down honest inquiry; both men argue for evaluating evidence case‑by‑case and being willing to change your mind without tying your self‑worth to being “right.”

Ego subtly infiltrates even spiritual and ethical pursuits.

Whether it’s collecting rare records, curating a bookcase, being “the spiritual one,” or fighting for a cause, the desire to be admired can corrupt motives; regularly checking for ego in your activism, diet, or religion keeps the practice honest.

Practices like chanting, fasting, and controlled breathing are behavioral experiments.

Rather than accepting or rejecting ancient methods on belief alone, Raghunath suggests treating them as experiments: apply them, observe effects on mind, body, and reactions, and then decide what to keep.

WORDS WORTH SAVING

5 quotes

You are not your thoughts. You’re a person, and you accept thoughts and sometimes become attached to them, but it’s not good to do.

Joe Rogan (echoing Raghunath’s yoga teaching)

Where is your happiness coming from? Is it coming from your day-to-day living, or is it just happiness from your ego?

Raghunath Cappo (paraphrasing Swami Sivananda and applying it to his own life)

When you’re on stage, don’t do it to serve God and not be God.

Raghunath Cappo (advice from his ashram days that reshaped how he performs and lives)

The ego is the biggest thing. It’s the hardest, and it’s so refined. It gets wound up in religion, diet, politics, race, animal rights—everything.

Raghunath Cappo

I feel like this show made itself. I’m the person who’s been granted the curator position on this show.

Joe Rogan

Early days of no-gi jiu-jitsu, 10th Planet, and Jean Jacques MachadoRaghunath’s transformation from hardcore punk singer to Hare Krishna monk and yoga teacherYoga, meditation, and mantra as tools for managing thoughts, ego, and stressDiet, health, and the complexity of nutrition debates (vegan vs. meat, Game Changers)Karma, reincarnation, and Vedic views on destiny vs. free willNature, disconnection from the outdoors, and spiritual impacts of environmentEgo, imposter syndrome, and using one’s craft (comedy, music, teaching) as service

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