Joe Rogan Experience #1433 - Michael Yo

Joe Rogan 0:00 Two, one. Michael Yeo, I'm going on a big tour.

Michael Yo 0:07 I know. I'm so excited for you, bro.

Joe Rogan 0:09 I'm not missing shit.

Michael Yo 0:10 No, you, uh, that's-

Joe Rogan 0:11 People wonder if I'm missing podcasts. I only go on the weekends. I tour-

Michael Yo 0:13 Oh, really? You don't go during the week?

Joe Rogan 0:14 Yeah. Never. Never. I don't like to.

Michael Yo 0:17 Why not?

Joe Rogan 0:18 Because I have a family. I like to be home.

Michael Yo 0:20 That's what's up right there.

Joe Rogan 0:21 Yeah.

Michael Yo 0:21 I mean, when you can do-

Joe Rogan 0:22 I miss it.

Michael Yo 0:23 ... when you can do what you wanna do and be like, "I'm gonna be gone Friday and Saturday and be back by Sunday."

Joe Rogan 0:27 Yeah. That's the way to do it, man. I, I've never done the touring thing. Like, Kreischer and a lot of those people, they go out for, like, a month. Fuck that. I get sad. I feel bad. I don't like it. I have kids.

Michael Yo 0:38 Well, I, I got two too and now I have a baby girl.

Joe Rogan 0:41 God, you wanna be home, man.

Michael Yo 0:42 Dude. And my baby girl, man.

Joe Rogan 0:44 Yeah.

Michael Yo 0:45 She looks at me like my son never looked at me before.

Joe Rogan 0:48 Oh, it's a different thing, right? I don't know because I don't have sons, but everybody that has both says, "Whoa, the, the girls are just so loving and sweet, and the sons are just trying to light shit on fire."

Michael Yo 0:57 Yeah (laughs) .

Joe Rogan 0:58 (laughs)

Michael Yo 0:58 It's so true. It's such a... And they don't love the, they don't love the fathers.

Joe Rogan 1:03 Mm-hmm.

Michael Yo 1:03 Like, my son could care less about me.

Joe Rogan 1:05 Yeah, that's hilarious.

Michael Yo 1:06 It's so true. Like, he loves my, uh, wife. Like, hand... I mean, side by side all the time.

Joe Rogan 1:12 Really?

Michael Yo 1:12 But already, my daughter, just at three months old, my wife will hold her and she'll keep crying, and as soon as I grab her-

Joe Rogan 1:18 Aw.

Michael Yo 1:19 ... she stops. I mean, it's amazing, dude.

Joe Rogan 1:21 As long as you guys don't start getting competitive about that shit. Sometimes people get weird.

Michael Yo 1:24 Oh, I'm a competitive father. But I'm not gonna, like, compete against-

Joe Rogan 1:27 Your wife.

Michael Yo 1:28 Oh, no, no, no, no.

Joe Rogan 1:29 You know what I'm saying? Like, "Yeah, look at this, the girl likes me more."

Michael Yo 1:31 (laughs)

Joe Rogan 1:32 "Hmm, how weird."

Michael Yo 1:33 (laughs)

Joe Rogan 1:33 "Maybe you're just, uh, not really, uh, a good mom?"

Michael Yo 1:36 Yeah, I don't know. I don't know.

Joe Rogan 1:38 (laughs)

Michael Yo 1:38 No, with your tour, where you going? Like, everywhere?

Joe Rogan 1:40 Everywhere, bro. I'll tell you where I'm going.

Michael Yo 1:42 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 1:42 'Cause I don't even know where I'm going honestly.

Michael Yo 1:45 (laughs)

Joe Rogan 1:45 I have to read it off. I'm going to, I'm starting off in Des Moines, Iowa, 'cause someone's got to.

Michael Yo 1:50 Yep.

Joe Rogan 1:51 I did that because my friend John Dudley lives there. So I'm like, "Fuck it, I'll come visit you. I'll do a gig out there." Like, legitimately.

Michael Yo 1:57 I love that.

Joe Rogan 1:58 (laughs) 'Cause everybody-

Michael Yo 1:58 You know-

Joe Rogan 1:59 ... lives in Iowa.

Michael Yo 1:59 You know who does that? Bill Burr. He loves football so much. This is what I heard from some clubs, is he loves college football so much, he'll schedule game- I mean, uh, tour dates around big games so he can be in the city already.

Joe Rogan 2:12 Oh yeah, he does that.

Michael Yo 2:13 That's genius, man.

Joe Rogan 2:14 Yeah. Well, Burr is a savage. And he's also a man who does what he wants.

Michael Yo 2:17 Yes.

Joe Rogan 2:18 You know? He's a self-made man-

Michael Yo 2:20 Yes.

Joe Rogan 2:20 ... Michael Yeo. And then I'm going to Pittsburgh, love Pittsburgh. Louisville, Raleigh, North Carolina, Char- Charlotte, North Carolina, Las Vegas. Woo! Fort Lauderdale, Tampa and Orlando. I do Florida, like, once every three years, and every time I do Florida I come back and I go, "Goddamn Florida."

Michael Yo 2:36 You don't like it?

Joe Rogan 2:36 Crazy place. I do, I love it.

Michael Yo 2:38 I was about to say, that's-

Joe Rogan 2:38 It's crazy. They're cr- they're, they're barely Americans.

Michael Yo 2:42 (laughs)

Joe Rogan 2:42 Barely Americans. And I say this with love. My sister lives there.

Michael Yo 2:45 Well, there's a lot of rednecks in Tampa too.

Joe Rogan 2:47 They're fucking animals.

Michael Yo 2:49 No- no disrespect, I love Tampa.

Joe Rogan 2:51 Yeah. I'm going to... Where else am I going? Uh, Tampa, Orlando.

Michael Yo 2:54 Oh, there it is.

Joe Rogan 2:54 Fort Lauderdale, Tampa, Orlando, Philadelphia, Lincoln, Nebraska.

Michael Yo 2:58 Are you doing-

Joe Rogan 2:58 I've never been to Lincoln, Nebraska.

Michael Yo 3:00 Are you doing the Hard Rock in Fort Lauderdale? Or are you doing the-

Joe Rogan 3:03 Um-

Michael Yo 3:03 ... the big arena?

Joe Rogan 3:04 ... I'm doing an arena.

Michael Yo 3:05 Okay.

Joe Rogan 3:05 Yeah. I've done the Hard Rock though. It's great.

Michael Yo 3:08 Yeah. They, they opened up a new... The Hard Rock just opened up, they have the guitar now. This whole new-

Joe Rogan 3:14 A guitar?

Michael Yo 3:14 They changed the whole... Yeah, they changed the whole hotel to a guitar, a glass guitar.

Joe Rogan 3:18 What? Really?

Michael Yo 3:18 It's the first... Oh, you gotta show the pictures. It's insane. So they changed the whole thing.

Joe Rogan 3:23 Really?

Michael Yo 3:23 And, uh, they have, like, a, uh, like, a 8,000 seater now, 10,000 seater-

Joe Rogan 3:28 Really?

Michael Yo 3:28 ... in there.

Joe Rogan 3:29 In Fort Lauderdale?

Michael Yo 3:29 Yeah, Fort Lauderdale Hard Rock.

Joe Rogan 3:30 That's a great gig.

Michael Yo 3:31 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 3:31 Fort Lauderdale is a lot of fun.

Michael Yo 3:32 Oh, it's amazing.

Joe Rogan 3:33 A lot of fun. And then I'm doing Nebraska. I've never been to Nebraska in my life. I don't think. I'm doing Lincoln, Nebraska. Crazy.

Michael Yo 3:41 My, uh, my wife's father is from-

Joe Rogan 3:43 Look at that shit.

Michael Yo 3:44 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 3:45 Wow.

Michael Yo 3:45 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 3:45 They built a giant fucking guitar.

Michael Yo 3:47 All gla-... That's the hotel rooms.

Joe Rogan 3:48 Designed to resemble back-to-back guitars. Woo!

Michael Yo 3:52 Yeah. Well, there you go.

Joe Rogan 3:53 I've never been to Oklahoma either, I don't think. And I'm doing Tulsa, Oklahoma. I'm doing, uh, Madison Square Garden-

Michael Yo 4:00 (sighs)

Joe Rogan 4:00 ... in New York. Motherfucking city.

Michael Yo 4:01 Yes.

Joe Rogan 4:02 Then I'm doing the Boston Garden the next week. And then I'm doing LA, I'm doing The Forum. And then I'm doing, uh, Milwaukee. And then I'm doing Wichita, Kansas. Come on, kids. And then Fresno, California to wrap this bitch up.

Michael Yo 4:16 Are you doing any more dates with Dave Chappelle? 'Cause I know you got-

Joe Rogan 4:18 Yeah.

Michael Yo 4:18 ... one coming up.

Joe Rogan 4:19 We have two.

Michael Yo 4:20 Two?

Joe Rogan 4:20 Yeah, we have two. We got one in New Orleans and one in, uh, it's not on there.

Michael Yo 4:26 It's not... Nah.

Joe Rogan 4:26 No. That's all mine.

Michael Yo 4:27 But you got one-

Joe Rogan 4:28 One in New Orleans and one in, um-

Michael Yo 4:30 Is it Denver?

Joe Rogan 4:30 Nashville. Nashville.

Michael Yo 4:32 I'm wa-... Yeah. I think I'm gonna go to the Nashville one.

Joe Rogan 4:34 Come on down, Michael Yeo.

Michael Yo 4:35 Yeah. My, my... We have tons of friends in... I love Nashville.

Joe Rogan 4:38 Nashville's a great fucking city.

Michael Yo 4:40 I mean, do you ever wanna-

Joe Rogan 4:41 It's a great city.

Michael Yo 4:41 ... not live here?

Joe Rogan 4:42 Yes.

Michael Yo 4:42 (laughs)

Joe Rogan 4:43 Yes. All the time.

Michael Yo 4:45 (laughs) Where would you move?

Joe Rogan 4:47 I'd move to Denver, I think.

Michael Yo 4:48 Denver's a great town. Yeah. Nashville or Denver for me.

Joe Rogan 4:52 Yeah. When I think about it, I think about a couple places. I think of Salt Lake City, like, uh, like, Park City, like that area.

Michael Yo 4:59 Uh-huh.

Joe Rogan 4:59 I think of that. Just... But that w-... I would never live there full time, just 'cause my family likes skiing. I think of Montana, I think of Bozeman, Montana. I love Bozeman.

Michael Yo 5:06 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 5:07 Just 'cause the mountains and the beauty and-

Michael Yo 5:08 Do you ski though?

Joe Rogan 5:09 I do, but reluctantly.

Michael Yo 5:11 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 5:12 I only ski 'cause they like it.

Michael Yo 5:13 It'll mess up your knees, man.

Joe Rogan 5:14 I fucked up my knee this-

Michael Yo 5:15 That's what I'm saying.

Joe Rogan 5:15 ... with this winter. Some... And it wasn't even my fault, man. This lady slid. She was a newbie-

Michael Yo 5:20 (laughs)

Joe Rogan 5:20 ... and she didn't know what the fuck she was doing, and she was, she was trying to put her shoe on and she slid right into the trail right when I was coming around this corner. I'm like, "Goddamn it." And I knew if I hit her, she was a goner.

Michael Yo 5:30 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 5:30 That bitch was gonna get broken up.

Michael Yo 5:32 I almost-

Joe Rogan 5:32 And so I went around her and I wiped out, and I got a fracture of my shin actually.

Michael Yo 5:36 Really?

Joe Rogan 5:36 Yeah. I've got what's something called an insufficiency fracture. It's like where your, my shin bone hits my cartilage. It's fairly lucky really, 'cause it just requires, like, six to eight weeks of doing not much. So no running for me. I've just been hiking with my dog and I lift weights. It's not... You know, it, uh, it lets me know every now and then, like, "Hey, fuck face, settle down." But I've been doing yoga. I've been doing a lot of my normal stuff. I can't kick the bag. But it's not bad-

Michael Yo 6:02 It's not bad.

Joe Rogan 6:03 ... as far as injuries go.

Michael Yo 6:04 I-

Joe Rogan 6:04 It'll heal up.

Michael Yo 6:05 I skied once and I almost took out four kids.

Joe Rogan 6:07 Oh Jesus, kids.

Michael Yo 6:08 Yeah. Like, literally would have killed those kids. I wa-

Joe Rogan 6:10 Ooh.

Michael Yo 6:11 I couldn't stop. I couldn't stop.

Joe Rogan 6:12 Oh, no. You're a big guy.

Michael Yo 6:13 And I'm a big guy.

Joe Rogan 6:14 Oh no.

Michael Yo 6:14 So I was going at these four kids and their parents were screaming-

Joe Rogan 6:17 Oh no.

Michael Yo 6:17 ... "Stop! Stop!"

Joe Rogan 6:18 Oh my God.

Michael Yo 6:18 And I just wounded up, like, rolling down the hill.

Joe Rogan 6:21 Oh my God.

Michael Yo 6:21 And so I was like, "All right, I'm done."Like, I don't ever need to ski again because-

Joe Rogan 6:25 The key is to stay on those green ones. Stay on the easy ba-

Michael Yo 6:29 I was on an easy one.

Joe Rogan 6:31 ... the easy baby courses. The easy baby ones are so much better. And for my kids, oh, f- my 11-year-old's a fucking psycho.

Michael Yo 6:36 (laughs)

Joe Rogan 6:36 She's like, "I wanna do double black diamond." She does all the black ones, all the black diamonds. Those are so hard, man. They're so s- but when you're, like, fucking, she's probably like 80 pounds, I guess.

Michael Yo 6:47 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 6:47 It's not that bad. You fall, like, nothing happens.

Michael Yo 6:50 They bounce right back up.

Joe Rogan 6:51 You know? But you're also so low to the ground and you're made out of rubber back then. They're al- they're all, like, flexible and shit. When you're old, bro, you, you, but you hit the ground, your back's like ... What really bothered me is my head. When I wiped, I went around the corner, um, I went out to, to try to get away from this lady. I tried to turn around her and my skis went up and when I went down, I hit my head pretty fucking hard. And I had a s- I had a helmet on, for sure. But still, even with a helmet on, you're, b- my bell got rung. Like, I was dizzy and I was a little confused and disoriented for, like, the rest of the day. I definitely got rocked. Like, if it was a fight, I would have the doctor, like, checking my eyes with a flashlight.

Michael Yo 7:28 (laughs) Do you, have you gotten concussions before?

Joe Rogan 7:30 Oh, yeah.

Michael Yo 7:31 Yeah? Okay. Okay.

Joe Rogan 7:32 Oh, yeah.

Michael Yo 7:32 But they, but when we got them, it wasn't a big deal. They were like, "Oh, go ahead, go back in."

Joe Rogan 7:36 Dude, I've probably been hit in the head a thousand times. Like, I don't even know how many times I've been hit in the head. From all the days of sparring and fighting and, I, I don't know how many times. It's been a lot. But that was a big one. L- like, recent. I haven't had a recent head injury. Like, a recent bang of the head.

Michael Yo 7:55 That's called success.

Joe Rogan 7:56 Mm-hmm. (laughs)

Michael Yo 7:56 You don't need to get hit. (laughs)

Joe Rogan 7:58 (laughs) It's called-

Michael Yo 7:58 You don't need to get hit in the head. (laughs)

Joe Rogan 8:00 (laughs) Plan ahead.

Michael Yo 8:01 Right.

Joe Rogan 8:01 Yeah. I mean, I'm okay. Everything's fine. But it's, um, head injuries are v- very touch and go, man. Very touch and go.

Michael Yo 8:07 I still wanna get checked out because I got knocked out in a f- in football practice, and this was in college at the University of Arkansas. And I played outside linebacker.

Joe Rogan 8:17 Jesus.

Michael Yo 8:17 And a guard pulled and hit me right here in the temple.

Joe Rogan 8:20 (inhales deeply)

Michael Yo 8:21 I- I was out, I woke up in, like, ICU, and I still get headaches.

Joe Rogan 8:25 Hmm.

Michael Yo 8:25 I've always gotten headaches all my life, but, you know, I watch different programs that go, they go, "Hey, are you having headaches? Maybe you should go in to see a doctor." And I'm like, "You know what? Maybe I should get another MRI."

Joe Rogan 8:35 You know what's really crazy? How many years people been alive. People been alive, I mean, we've been, human beings have been around for a quarter million more, or more years, or it depend upon who you ask. And how long have they really known about chronic traumatic encephalopathy? Is that how you say it? Encephalopathy? How do you say it?

Guest (unknown minor participant) 8:53 Yeah. Okay. Was it the-

Michael Yo 8:55 (laughs) CT?

Guest (unknown minor participant) 8:55 ... the doctor who-

Michael Yo 8:56 You're a CT. (laughs)

Guest (unknown minor participant) 8:56 ... in the movie Concussion. Wasn't that the guy that, like, discovered it?

Joe Rogan 8:59 Well ...

Guest (unknown minor participant) 9:00 Or ...

Joe Rogan 9:00 I don't know if he's just-

Michael Yo 9:01 He's the one that brought it to life.

Guest (unknown minor participant) 9:02 Okay. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Okay.

Joe Rogan 9:02 He brought it to life. And he was the one who's, uh, uh, I mean, explaining how all of these football players have it. You know what's really interesting? I, I saw a, an article about him that was kind of shitting on him lately. Encephalopathy. That's it.

Guest (unknown minor participant) 9:16 Encephalopathy.

Joe Rogan 9:17 Chronic traumatic encephalopathy.

Michael Yo 9:19 (sighs)

Joe Rogan 9:19 Neurodegenerative disease caused by repeated head injuries. Fucking A, man.

Michael Yo 9:24 And my parents threw me in football when I was, like, eight years old.

Joe Rogan 9:27 Symptoms-

Michael Yo 9:27 So I was taking hits.

Joe Rogan 9:28 Look at this. Be- symptoms may include behavioral problems, got that. Mood problems, got that. Problems with thinking, definitely got that.

Michael Yo 9:35 (laughs)

Joe Rogan 9:35 Symptoms typically do not begin-

Michael Yo 9:37 (laughs)

Joe Rogan 9:37 ... 'til years after the injuries. Check. CT often gets worse over time and can result in dementia.

Guest (unknown minor participant) 9:43 Hmm.

Michael Yo 9:44 Why, why is the guy getting shitted on, you said?

Joe Rogan 9:46 (clicks tongue) Oh, there was an article recently that was saying that, um, he is profiting off ... It's most likely someone trying to discredit ... Like, have you noticed all the negative, uh, Bernie Sanders ads that, or articles that have been written lately?

Michael Yo 10:00 Mm-hmm.

Joe Rogan 10:00 Like, really crazy ones. Like, uh, the s- saying, uh, b- some, calling him a climate change denialist, which is 100% not true.

Michael Yo 10:08 (sighs) Yeah.

Joe Rogan 10:09 You know? There's, there's so many l- here it is. From scientist to salesman, how, uh, Bennet Omalu, doctor of concussion fame, built a career on distorted science. Yeah. I don't know i- if what they're doing ... It's The Washington Post, which is another one that re- they, they were also the ones that ran that thing on Bernie with climate change denial. (sighs) Goddamn it, media.

Michael Yo 10:32 Anytime you get-

Joe Rogan 10:33 There's, there's so much horse shit going on in the news. So many-

Michael Yo 10:35 I can't watch it anymore.

Joe Rogan 10:36 It's, it's just reading it and watching it, it's like so much of it is biased and distorted and they're trying to paint a perception of someone instead of just, just laying out the facts in an objective way. It's just so much of that going on now. It's just, I, I feel like it's a very unfortunate case, but I feel like one of the things that's happened is because of, uh, subscription models for newspapers, things like Washington Post and New York Times, they have to be outrageous. Like, sometimes in my Google newsfeed, I'll get, uh, a story and I'll click on it and then it'll say, "To subscribe, go here." Oh, oh, well, fuck you.

Michael Yo 11:11 Yeah. Mm-hmm.

Joe Rogan 11:11 'Cause so they got me to click on it with the clickbaity shit, and I bet, you know, one out of a hundred or whatever will follow through and give in their credit card information and subscribe. But they, they're, they're almost starving to death. Someone told me that The New York Times only survives because of their podcast now.

Michael Yo 11:27 Oh, it's The Daily.

Joe Rogan 11:28 Yeah.

Michael Yo 11:28 Yeah, The Daily is ... I- I used to listen to it a lot, but, uh, it's the thing where I- I think news, when we watch news, it's, it's more salacious than entertainment news. I remember ...

Joe Rogan 11:38 Yeah.

Michael Yo 11:38 You know, they, th- they're all about the headlines and here's what I'm ... Like, they just had this Democratic, um, you know, the, um, where they win against each other, the debate.

Joe Rogan 11:47 The debate.

Michael Yo 11:47 And the next day on the news, all they showed was the same five clips of Elizabeth Warren going after this person, Bernie Sanders going after that person.

Joe Rogan 11:57 Mm-hmm.

Michael Yo 11:58 And they have 24 hours to at least tell you the good things they said on, like-

Joe Rogan 12:03 Yeah.

Michael Yo 12:03 ... give me some policies or something. But no.

Joe Rogan 12:05 No.

Michael Yo 12:05 They're just gonna show you those five clips.

Joe Rogan 12:07 Yep.

Michael Yo 12:07 And that's, and that's what the debate. And then they go on, "We don't understand why everybody's mad." Because you're only putting five clips up that-

Joe Rogan 12:14 Yeah.

Michael Yo 12:14 ... where all the candidates are mad at each other. The news is a big part of the division right now. And I feel like it's worse ... Like, entertainment news is supposed to be like Brad, Angelina, uh, Jennifer Aniston. But now you have poli- politicians. Elizabeth Warren and Bernie Sanders.

Joe Rogan 12:29 Yeah.

Michael Yo 12:29 Like, they're doing the same thing-

Joe Rogan 12:30 Mm-hmm.

Michael Yo 12:31 ... that we did in entertainment news.

Joe Rogan 12:32 You're 100% right. And I think they're doing that because it's a business and they have to stay alive.

Michael Yo 12:37 It's ratings.

Joe Rogan 12:38 But it-I would love it if one channel existed that didn't do that, one channel existed that was 100% unbiased, these are the facts as we know them. You know, some old school Walter Cronkite type shit.

Michael Yo 12:49 But can you do that nowadays-

Joe Rogan 12:51 I don't know why you can't.

Michael Yo 12:52 ... and survive?

Joe Rogan 12:52 Pff, I don't know.

Michael Yo 12:53 'Cause it's about ratings.

Joe Rogan 12:54 It's a good question. It's a good question. Can you? It's like we're so personality driven these days. Everything's personality driven. It's so hard. It's hard to trust people. You know, it's like when, when you see these hit pieces that are written about Bernie Sanders and you know it's horse shit, that's where... Like, when you know something's horse shit, that's when you go, "Oh, wow, look what you're doing." And then you see a bunch of other news, uh, articles that are similar and that... Or on similar left-leaning publications or similar establishment-connected publications and you go, "Oh, this is like sort of a concentrated effort to try to minimize his campaign."

Michael Yo 13:30 But even when it's bullshit-

Joe Rogan 13:31 Yeah.

Michael Yo 13:31 ... somebody's gonna believe it.

Joe Rogan 13:33 A lot of people believe it.

Michael Yo 13:33 You know, a lot of people believe that stuff.

Joe Rogan 13:35 Well, it's a certain number are gonna believe it. What's really interesting to me is that Bernie Sanders just keeps winning, right? He keeps winning. He won Nevada, he's won three in a row. And they're trying to bullshit us and pretend that, "Pete Buttigieg, he's got a chance." He's got zero chance. That guy's got zero chance. You know-

Michael Yo 13:51 How do you see it all playing out?

Joe Rogan 13:53 Bernie Sanders, 100%. The only way it's not gonna happen is if they give him some fucking CIA-

Michael Yo 13:57 (laughs)

Joe Rogan 13:57 ... injection into his coffee one day. And his fucking chamomile tea-

Michael Yo 14:01 (laughs)

Joe Rogan 14:02 ... they give a little squirt in there and he's like, "Ugh!" I mean, the guy already had a goddamn heart attack, which is crazy that he's doing this well. He had a heart attack on the campaign trail. I mean, bro, this is like... Look, if you have a car and, uh, you're, you're driving it over to the guy's house who wants to buy it and one of your cylinders blows-

Michael Yo 14:19 (laughs)

Joe Rogan 14:19 ... and you're still like, "That's a good car, I'll fucking take it." Like that guy, you know, he needs that car. That's how much America needs Bernie Sanders. This motherfucker had a heart attack running for president and they're like, "So what? He's still alive."

Michael Yo 14:31 Let's go. Let's go.

Joe Rogan 14:32 "He's still alive."

Michael Yo 14:33 Ho-

Joe Rogan 14:33 "Let's go."

Michael Yo 14:34 But what's interesting to me, and I... You know, we were talking about it at this benefit you did, you came out and made this statement about Bernie Sanders. He was losing at that time. He was not the front runner. And after you said that, he became the front runner. D- I really believe you had a lot to do with that.

Joe Rogan 14:51 I don't know about that.

Michael Yo 14:51 I mean, you have a huge audience, man.

Joe Rogan 14:53 It might, it might have had something to do with it, but that's also (laughs) also why they attacked me, which is hilar-

Michael Yo 14:58 (laughs)

Joe Rogan 14:58 ... ious, they did exactly what I said you can do about a person. I said if you take all the worst aspects of a person and ignore everything else and just magnify those, you can paint a very distorted perception of someone. And so they're like, "Good. Let's do that to him."

Michael Yo 15:10 (laughs)

Joe Rogan 15:10 "Let's make Bernie Sanders look like a piece of shit for using that..." Well, also the fact that he used the most wishy-washy endorsement ever. What I said is, "I'll probably vote for." (laughs)

Michael Yo 15:19 (laughs) Probably vote for.

Joe Rogan 15:19 And they're like, "Run with it."

Michael Yo 15:20 "I might."

Joe Rogan 15:21 "Run with it. I like it."

Michael Yo 15:22 "I might vote for him." (laughs)

Joe Rogan 15:24 Yeah. Listen, man, if you c- I always say this, this is very important, if you're getting your politics from me, u- uh, you're fucked-

Michael Yo 15:29 (laughs)

Joe Rogan 15:29 ... 'cause I'm not the guy. Y- d- listen to Kyle Kulinski, listen to Jimmy Dore, listen to the people that are really paying attention, l- listen to The Hill, people that are really on top of it where it's their business. It's not my business. My business is standup comedy and cage fighting-

Michael Yo 15:44 (laughs)

Joe Rogan 15:44 ... and then o- a few other things. I'm a comedian like you.

Michael Yo 15:46 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 15:46 You know? Just we're, we talk about shit, but I'm no expert. But what... I like what Bernie stands for socially. I like what he stands for socially. You know, when you s- And when he made his... when he explained how he was going to put a very small tax on Wall Street speculation, on each one of these little transactions less than a penny and explains that over time in all these transactions, that's, that's a valuable thing, and that could contribute, and that could... what could potentially pay for education and healthcare and all these different things. I don't know if he's right. You know, I know many people say he's wrong. And I would like to see a real honest debate, not a debate on television where you have to cut every seven seconds for, or seven minutes for a commercial-

Michael Yo 16:30 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 16:30 ... and you have these people that are... these moderators that are, you know, steering this thing. No, I wanna see the two of them, like him and someone who opposes his ideas who actually understands the economics of it, and discuss it in a long form discussion, like a YouTube video. Make a YouTube video, everyone would watch it, have Bernie Sanders sit down with someone who's a- an economist or a mathematician or someone who understands it, and let's find out if that really would work and how it would work. Uh, same thing goes with education, same thing go- goes with healthcare. How are you gonna pay for these things? Is it feasible? Is it possible to do this? Where's the fat that we're gonna cut? How much taxes are you gonna raise? And who are you gonna raise the taxes on? And how is it gonna be done? And where's that money gonna go?

Michael Yo 17:18 Now, do you believe that if you're Bernie Sanders, you have to talk about that information? Because we have a president that didn't give any information. Like, I, I, I feel now politics is, "I'm gonna give as least information as I can so they can't use it against me." And it works, obviously, 'cause you have a guy like that in the White House. So if I'm Bernie Sanders, why would I tell you how much-

Joe Rogan 17:39 Well-

Michael Yo 17:39 ... everything's gonna cost?

Joe Rogan 17:40 ... with Trump, the personality overshadowed everything else. His personality overshadowed all of his shortcomings. So because of the fact that he could say things like, when he was talking about China, you know, "You could go to China." And did you ever see that video?

Michael Yo 17:56 Which one was that?

Joe Rogan 17:57 Where, where he explains to China... Or he could say, "Listen motherfuckers." Have you ever seen that video?

Michael Yo 18:00 No.

Joe Rogan 18:01 Pull that video up, 'cause it's one of my favorite Trump speeches. It's like this is what people love about Donald Trump, the fact that he would say this. Think about who Obama was, right?

Michael Yo 18:10 Mm-hmm.

Joe Rogan 18:10 Obama this, like, articulate statesman who you were proud that that was the representative of America. He spoke so well, he was so measured, so educated. Donald Trump is not that.

Michael Yo 18:22 Do you feel that some American people, since Obama was like that, felt like he was speaking down to them?

Joe Rogan 18:28 For sure.

Michael Yo 18:29 Okay.

Joe Rogan 18:29 Dummies.

Michael Yo 18:30 (laughs)

Joe Rogan 18:30 Yeah. Dummies don't like smart people.

Michael Yo 18:32 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 18:32 That's always the case, you know, but, uh, he, d- he... I don't think he was ever speaking down to people.

Michael Yo 18:37 Hmm.

Joe Rogan 18:37 He's a very measured person.

Michael Yo 18:38 I don't, I don't either, but some people get upset about that-

Joe Rogan 18:41 Listen-

Michael Yo 18:41 ... "Oh, he doesn't speak his mind, he doesn't say what he wants to say." This type of thing.

Joe Rogan 18:45 There's some people that don't like him because he's a liberal, there's some people who don't like him-

Michael Yo 18:48 Black.

Joe Rogan 18:48 ... because he's Black. There's some people that don't like him because he's young. There's some people that don't like him because he went to Harvard. Here it is. Listen to this. So listen, play this, 'cause this is my, one of my favorite Trump speeches ever.

Narrator 18:58 He said, "Well, what would you do? What can you do?" So easy.

Michael Yo 19:02 (laughs)

Narrator 19:03 I drop a 25% tax on China-And, you know, I said to somebody that it's really the messenger. The messenger is important. I could have one man say, "We're gonna tax you 25%." And I could say, another, "Listen you motherfuckers, we're gonna tax you 25%."

Joe Rogan 19:25 (cheering)

Narrator 19:26 Now, you said the same exact thing. You said the same exact thing.

Michael Yo 19:34 (laughs) He does not give a shit.

Joe Rogan 19:35 He doesn't, and here's the thing-

Michael Yo 19:37 (laughs)

Joe Rogan 19:37 ... people keep saying he's dumb. He's not dumb. He's just not concentrating on the things that intelligent people concentrate on.

Michael Yo 19:46 (laughs) Wait.

Joe Rogan 19:47 He's concentrating on money.

Michael Yo 19:49 Money.

Joe Rogan 19:49 He's concentrating on-

Michael Yo 19:51 Himself.

Joe Rogan 19:51 ... his ego, his, himself.

Michael Yo 19:52 Yeah, okay. All right.

Joe Rogan 19:52 He's not concentrating on ... I mean, when, when he's talking, he's not talking about the glit- the great literary works. He's talking ab- not talking about great philosophers or great historians. These are not things that he's concentrating on. His whole life ... He has a sharp mind, but his whole life, he's been concentrating on Donald Trump, and Donald Trump kicking ass, and Donald Trump's name, and Donald Trump's ego, and filling that ego, and cheating at golf, and doing all the things that he wants to do whenever he wants to do 'em. That's what he concentrated on. It doesn't mean that he's dumb. And that's why people get distracted, though-

Michael Yo 20:22 I-

Joe Rogan 20:22 ... they get confused.

Michael Yo 20:23 I agree with you on that. But, but I, what I'm surprised about ... Look. And I don't care what f- side of the fence you're on. But what I'm surprised about is some people believe he's doing things for the country's best interests, not for his own.

Joe Rogan 20:36 Well, he's definitely doing things for his best interests, and-

Michael Yo 20:39 100%

Joe Rogan 20:40 And also probably doing things that he thinks are for the country's best interests as well. I don't think-

Michael Yo 20:47 Okay.

Joe Rogan 20:47 ... all of what he's doing is just for him 'cause y- you wouldn't be president if you did that. That doesn't make any sense 'cause it, the, the beating that you take in terms of like ... Well, that's also y- your ego boosted by being the king of the world.

Michael Yo 20:58 But he's also getting rid of everyone that opposes him-

Joe Rogan 21:01 Yeah.

Michael Yo 21:01 ... or, so, I mean-

Joe Rogan 21:02 Well, that's how he runs all of his businesses.

Michael Yo 21:04 His companies. Exactly.

Joe Rogan 21:05 So, that's how you would run a company. And you got, the guy's 70 fucking 3 years old, right? When you're that old, you don't change, you know? You're not g- I mean, the, the way he runs companies, to expect him to do any different once he became president is kind of silly. Like, that's how he's become successful. I mean, that's why his fucking name is on these giant buildings all over the world, right? It's like his, this ego thing and the way he does business. "I'm the fucking boss. Listen you motherfuckers, we're gonna tax you 25%." That's his attitude. That's his thought. Some people love that shit.

Michael Yo 21:35 Oh, no. I, I know a lot of people that love it.

Joe Rogan 21:37 Because people are attracted to the s- the strong man, the strong, confident man who tells everyone to fuck off, and they want to align with them because most people feel like they don't have a voice in life. They don't feel like, th- they don't feel like they're ... They feel frustrated. They, they owe money. And it's a lot of poor people, which is really ironic, right? Because he doesn't give a, you know, his policies don't give a fuck about poor people. He, I mean, he talks about the working people and, but that's-

Michael Yo 22:01 He doesn't care.

Joe Rogan 22:02 ... a lot of that is-

Michael Yo 22:02 No. No.

Joe Rogan 22:02 ... to get them to vote for him. He cares about 'em in that way 'cause they, they are very valuable to him.

Michael Yo 22:07 But why do they latch onto him? So, 'cause they don't have that voice that he has?

Joe Rogan 22:11 Well, it's tha- it's that, right? You, like, people are very tribal. They want a leader of a team. And you're seeing that with Bernie Sanders. You clearly saw that with Elizabeth Warren. So many women were clinging to Elizabeth Warren. They wanted to call Bernie Sanders a misogynist and this and that. And what they were doing is, they're just Team Warren. "I'm on Team Warren." They didn't want to paint, uh, an objective opinion of him. Like, "Well, he's got some good policies, and he's got some questionable economic theories. And I don't know whether or not they're accurate, but this is why Elizabeth Warren stands out to me. And as a mother and as, uh, a woman, I think it would be great to have a woman in the White House, and I'm biased in that direction." People don't say that.

Michael Yo 22:49 No.

Joe Rogan 22:49 They don't say that. They don't say that. They're tr- they're tribal. They're on Team Warren. "Fuck everybody else." And that's how people are.

Michael Yo 22:54 But it's just that then you're not making any progress. You're just as bad as the other side.

Joe Rogan 22:58 Yeah.

Michael Yo 22:58 Like, you're blaming the other side for doing that, but yet, I see ... To me, Trump is so right, like, for that, for that party. He's doing his own thing. Where now, Bernie, I feel like ... I always feel there's an overcorrection. Me Too was an overcorrection. I think now, Bernie will probably get it because that's the left's answer for overcorrection.

Joe Rogan 23:18 Yes. I think you're 100% right, and I think that's what's going on. I think AOC and a lot of other people are also part of this sort of philosophy of overcorrection, which is probably good. Uh, uh, th- I think we need that. I think people go back and forth, and we need to find our fucking equilibrium. And that's what, that's what humans do. You know? Look, th- uh, things are getting better, man. I'm a fucking rock solid optimist. I think, I think even the Me Too shit, what that is, is it's g- I mean, I have a bit about it, and I can't really talk too much about it-

Michael Yo 23:46 Mm-hmm.

Joe Rogan 23:46 ... without giving up the bit.

Michael Yo 23:47 I heard it. It's-

Joe Rogan 23:48 But-

Michael Yo 23:48 ... fucking hilarious, dude.

Joe Rogan 23:49 Thank you.

Michael Yo 23:49 It's hilarious.

Joe Rogan 23:50 But the, uh, the thought process behind it is that ultimately, the direction is moving towards less bad things. And I think that's the same thing with even woke culture. Like, I'm a, uh, a critic of woke culture. I think a lot of it is ridiculous, and I think a lot of it is tribal. It's the same kind of shit. It's like people decide they're on Team Ultra Progressive and, you know, and then everybody else can go fuck off, and they want to attack those people and force those people to comply. It's like a thought war.

Michael Yo 24:20 Mm-hmm.

Joe Rogan 24:20 And that's what's going on. But when you look at the tenets of woke culture b- cut out all the horse shit, what are they trying to do? They're trying to have less homophobia, less racism, less sexism. They w- they want more inclusiveness. They want more people to have opportunities. That's great. That's all great. It's just they're going about it in this militant, psychotic way and wearing ski masks, and professors are hitting people over the head with bike locks, and everybody's losing their fucking mind. They won't even let conservative people speak at universities in a debate. That stuff is wrong, but I understand what that is. That's just rabid tribalism, and it needs ... That's an overcorrection. And it- that needs to be called out, and it needs to be, i- it needs to be stopped because the only way to really find out who you agree with is to let both sides talk. That's the only way. And then this idea that, this infantile, like, perception of, of people, including young people, that a lot of people on the left have is that you don't even wanna hear people with questionable ideas speak because then they're gonna radicalize young people, and they're gonna p- people are gonna g- get drawn to them. Well, that's a very egotistical perspective. It's like, "I can see they're full of shit, but these young people are not gonna be able to. And I'm smarter than them, and I wanna stop them from being able to speak."

Michael Yo 25:40 I don't like when people get mad when you have questions-

Joe Rogan 25:43 Yeah.

Michael Yo 25:44 ... about what ... Like, if you ask a question to a different party or a different movement, and they don't like your question-

Joe Rogan 25:50 They get mad at you.

Michael Yo 25:51 They get, they get mad at you.

Joe Rogan 25:52 Yeah.

Michael Yo 25:52 And then they'll (laughs) ta- you like, "Wha-"

Joe Rogan 25:53 But that's fools. But it's because it's people that don't understand all the tenets of rational discourse. You need those. You need ... Do you know what The Four Agreements are? You ever heard of Don Miguel Ruiz, The Four Agreements?

Michael Yo 26:06 Mm-mm.

Joe Rogan 26:07 Um, it's a great f- it's a great book, and it's really simple. It's a small book, it's an easy read. But the, the four tenets are, first of all, be impeccable with your word, always do your best, don't take, take anything personal, and I think the other one is, like, don't have any expectations. I think that's the other one. Here, well, here they are.

Michael Yo 26:27 Okay.

Joe Rogan 26:27 Don't make assumptions. That's what it is.

Michael Yo 26:29 Okay.

Joe Rogan 26:29 Don't make assumptions, always do your best, don't take anything personally, and be impeccable with your word. Now, if you just apply those, and I d- a lot of people are like, "How does this relate?" The way this relates, this is a philosophy on just going through life, and all of these tenets, be impeccable with your word, don't take anything personally, don't make assumptions, always do your best, these are anti-tribal tenets. This is a way to not get sucked into this, like, really biased tribal perception that a lot of people get sucked into.

Michael Yo 27:02 Mm-hmm.

Joe Rogan 27:03 And they get sucked into this team mentality, and they get blinders on, and they, they can't see things for what they are. We have a real problem with wanting to be in tribes, and it's just a part of our DNA. It's a part of our nature. It's how we survived to the 21st century. I mean, we survived by teaming up and, and having this loyalty to the people in our group to fight against the invaders who wanna take our women and our food.

Michael Yo 27:25 It's all, it's all fi- uh, I mean, you can, that goes from politics to even religion.

Joe Rogan 27:29 Yes.

Michael Yo 27:29 Like, that's your, that's your tribe.

Joe Rogan 27:30 Yeah.

Michael Yo 27:31 You know?

Joe Rogan 27:31 That's exactly what it is, yeah.

Michael Yo 27:32 And if you question a tribe-

Joe Rogan 27:33 Yep.

Michael Yo 27:34 ... then they all come after you.

Joe Rogan 27:35 I mean, it's with everything, man. It's with everything. It's with sports teams, it's with the part of the country you live in, it's with the style of eating, it's veganism versus carnivore, it's, it's like, it's fucking everything we do, we break off into tribal groups, man. You know, it's like people are into American cars only, and, you know, people are, uh, uh, "I only buy electric." Uh-

Michael Yo 27:55 Guns.

Joe Rogan 27:56 Yes, with everything, man.

Michael Yo 27:57 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 27:58 No one should have a gun. Everyone should have a gun.

Michael Yo 28:00 (laughs)

Joe Rogan 28:00 I mean, it's ... And by the way, those people, the no one should have a gun or the everyone should have a gun, they're the same person. They don't even realize it. They don't even realize it. They just needed the right amount of i- i- c- the right amount of influence, the right, uh, the right people around them, the right positive, uh, m- the positive reactions from those people around them. All of the, the debate that comes from one side versus all the debate that comes from the other side, so much of the mindsets are similar, so much of that absolute mindset, whether it's absolute left wing or absolute right wing. It's so similar.

Michael Yo 28:35 You know what I hate is, I think we're at a point of the country where everybody wants to think their problem is bigger than your problem.

Joe Rogan 28:42 Yeah.

Michael Yo 28:42 And, and so (laughs) it's like, "Well, I'm gay." "Well, I'm Black and gay."

Joe Rogan 28:45 Yeah.

Michael Yo 28:45 "Well, I'm Black, gay, and this." You know? So it's like, it's a thing where everybody ... You, we can't acknowledge there's problems.

Joe Rogan 28:52 Yes.

Michael Yo 28:53 But we have to say, "My problem is more-"

Joe Rogan 28:55 Is bigger.

Michael Yo 28:56 Is bigger than your problem."

Joe Rogan 28:57 Yeah, yeah.

Michael Yo 28:57 "So you need to listen to me."

Joe Rogan 28:58 Yeah.

Michael Yo 28:58 It's like, no, let's just say everybody has problems and let's address them-

Joe Rogan 29:01 Yeah.

Michael Yo 29:02 ... rather than you, you being the big problem.

Joe Rogan 29:04 And also kindness and understanding.

Michael Yo 29:07 Yes.

Joe Rogan 29:07 Those two things are so giant. And whenever people just start attacking people, you realize, okay, there's no kindness there, there's no understanding there. And that's why you're doing that. If you had kindness and understanding, you temper your words, you take a deep breath, and you go, "Well, I, I assume she's just trying to do her best," or, "I assume he's just trying to get by just like all of us." And that kindness and understanding goes a long fucking way, because as soon as you dehumanize someone, as soon as you say, you know, "Hey, he's on the left. Fuck him, he wants to take away your money and turn, um, America into Cuba. Fuck you." You know, like that-

Michael Yo 29:37 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 29:38 ... that kind of nonsense, man.

Michael Yo 29:39 It's, uh, I read a book called, uh, uh, Never Split the Difference. Have you read that one?

Joe Rogan 29:44 Mm-mm.

Michael Yo 29:45 It's amazing, bro.

Joe Rogan 29:46 Yeah?

Michael Yo 29:46 It- it's about, uh, an old FBI, uh, terrorist negotiator, and he l- he ... Basically, the book tells you how to talk to people. Like, he took that, that tactic they use in the FBI to bring it to real life, business and everything, how to talk to people where you can get them on your side, and just certain questions you ask where it, it, instead of them helping you, the, well, it turns it from me asking you to do something to you wanting to do it.

Joe Rogan 30:13 Mm.

Michael Yo 30:13 It's brilliant. Like, it, it's a game ... I, I use it in, in real life every day.

Joe Rogan 30:18 Real ... How do you use it?

Michael Yo 30:19 Well, it's, it's about the how question.

Joe Rogan 30:21 Okay.

Michael Yo 30:22 You know, for instance, um, you're negotiating a price on something. Somebody says, "I wanna do the Joe Rogan Podcast studio," and it comes in at $20,000. And you go, "You know what? How can we make this where it's not as much?" Is there ... How can we, how can we lower this price? So instead of you going, "Hey, I need a lower price," and they go, "No, it's $20,000," you go, (sighs) "How can we get this lower?" Now all the onus is on them to try to figure out your problem.

Joe Rogan 30:51 Mm-hmm.

Michael Yo 30:52 So you're basically putting your ... They're trying to figure out your problem for you instead of you figuring out the problem.

Joe Rogan 30:58 No, you fucked up by telling people this, 'cause then they're gonna go, "Uh, we can't."

Michael Yo 31:01 I know. (laughs)

Joe Rogan 31:02 And then you're stuck.

Michael Yo 31:03 But-

Joe Rogan 31:03 It's like you're, you're playing chess here.

Michael Yo 31:05 I know.

Joe Rogan 31:05 But they, they just, like, "Check."

Michael Yo 31:07 I just forgot about, like, how many millions watch this.

Joe Rogan 31:10 (laughs)

Michael Yo 31:10 Now, now people are gonna be taking shit away from me now. They'll be like, "Oh, you did that to us?" (laughs)

Joe Rogan 31:14 They'll be like, "Oh, I see what you're doing. I see what you did, you motherfucker. You went with the how. You came with the how question."

Michael Yo 31:19 I do it to my wife.

Joe Rogan 31:20 Oh, how cool would this sound?

Michael Yo 31:20 And I mean, uh, but she knows I read the ... Every time my wife is at the house and I'm just kinda chilling-

Joe Rogan 31:26 Mm-hmm.

Michael Yo 31:26 ... I go, "How can I help you?"

Joe Rogan 31:28 Oh, Jesus Christ. What are you doing?

Narrator 31:30 (laughs)

Joe Rogan 31:30 Why don't you just get out of the room?

Michael Yo 31:31 When I ... No, no, no.

Joe Rogan 31:32 (laughs)

Michael Yo 31:33 (laughs) When I ask that, she always goes, "Oh, nothing." But when I'm doing nothing and don't ask her, there's always something to do.

Joe Rogan 31:39 Oh, I get it. Yeah.

Michael Yo 31:40 You know what I mean?

Joe Rogan 31:41 Right.

Michael Yo 31:41 So yeah, it, it's a thing where if, if somebody ... You're just putting the onus on them.

Joe Rogan 31:46 Mm-hmm.

Michael Yo 31:46 And it's a f- like, Never Split the Difference, it's, it's a game-changer, man.

Joe Rogan 31:50 Yeah. That's interesting. Yeah, there's all sorts of weird techniques that people have used in negotiations. Uh, interrogations, interrogation techniques are very interesting, how they catch people lying by repeating what they said back to them and having them repeat it again.

Michael Yo 32:06 Mm-hmm.

Joe Rogan 32:07 And then, 'cause like-

Michael Yo 32:07 He talks about that too.

Joe Rogan 32:08 Oh, okay. Yeah.

Michael Yo 32:09 Yeah, because he had to do that.

Joe Rogan 32:10 Mm-hmm.

Michael Yo 32:10 Like, when he had to know over the phone though-... if they were lying. So, he had ... Through the book, they go through all these cues you could do. And he goes, "I want everybody to know, this is not manipulation. This just teaches you what to look for and how to basically get along where you're not fighting with somebody-"

Joe Rogan 32:28 Mm-hmm.

Michael Yo 32:28 ... "on something." Because when you're ... When they have your hostages, you don't wanna fight with the captors.

Joe Rogan 32:34 Right.

Michael Yo 32:35 You know, you, you have to talk to them in a civilized manner to get these people out.

Joe Rogan 32:40 That is some high-pressure shit, man.

Michael Yo 32:41 (sighs)

Joe Rogan 32:41 Imagine you're like, you're, you're dealing with, you know, ISIS or some shit, and you're trying to get hostages back. And you're trying to communicate with them and trying to figure out how ... what's the best way to do this without using drones.

Michael Yo 32:52 Mm.

Joe Rogan 32:52 You know?

Michael Yo 32:52 Well, if you use drones, everybody's gone.

Joe Rogan 32:54 Yeah. Not anymore. They're pretty good now. When they took out al-Baghdadi, uh, no, that wasn't al-Baghdadi, Soleimani-

Michael Yo 33:02 Uh-huh.

Joe Rogan 33:02 ... they, uh, they only killed one other person.

Michael Yo 33:05 (exhales)

Joe Rogan 33:05 Yeah, they're good at it now.

Michael Yo 33:06 It's scary.

Joe Rogan 33:07 Well, it's ... Look, it's gonna get scarier. They're gonna be able to get drones down to, like ... I mean, they used to call them, they, they used to, uh, d- talk about the precision of drones, but really, like, a lot of the times, they're blowing up entire buildings and killing a ton of innocent people. Like, the numbers of innocent people that have overall been killed by drones is fucking staggering.

Michael Yo 33:27 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 33:28 If it was a cop, if a cop had done what drones had done, you would be like, "That guy is a fucking psychopath, and he's just trying to kill people." Like, the, the decision that a cop would make, "There's a bad guy in this building, so I'm gonna blow up the whole fucking building." Like (laughs) you're going, "What?"

Michael Yo 33:44 (laughs) Yeah. Yeah.

Joe Rogan 33:44 "You're gonna do what?" Like, there's weird decisions that you're allowed to make in two cases. One, war, and two, when it's not a human doing it per se. It's a human t- piloting a drone.

Michael Yo 33:57 Well, I mean, what was that movie with, um ... It was these animals, these mechanical animals killing everybody. And the movie had that ... It was, like, this dog type of creature. It was a big movie. I forgot what the name of it was, but-

Joe Rogan 34:10 Mechanical animals killing people?

Michael Yo 34:11 Y- yeah. It's, it's ... They have all these robots now. It's a robot.

Joe Rogan 34:14 I think Black Mirror, the Black Mirror episode.

Michael Yo 34:16 I- y- yeah. Oh, you're right. It was a Black Mirror ep-

Joe Rogan 34:17 Oh, it was a TV show.

Michael Yo 34:18 It was a Black Mirror episode. It was one episode.

Joe Rogan 34:20 Yeah. Yeah, I saw that one.

Michael Yo 34:20 But, man, like, these robots, they're jumping over things.

Joe Rogan 34:23 Mm-hmm.

Michael Yo 34:24 Like, like, the, the mafia can just, like, buy robots now to go do hits for people, you know? Like, it's gonna get-

Joe Rogan 34:30 Uh, I don't know if they got that kinda money. I think, uh-

Michael Yo 34:32 (laughs)

Joe Rogan 34:32 ... it'd be more like the, more like the federal government using our money.

Michael Yo 34:36 Right.

Joe Rogan 34:36 That's what's fucked up about the government.

Michael Yo 34:38 But the ... But-

Joe Rogan 34:38 Like, they're using our money. They don't even have to give you, like, a sheet. Like, say if you pay taxes, and, you know, you make a good living, you probably have to pay a s- a hefty sum of taxes. They don't send you, "Hey, Michael. We used all this money on education, we fixed the streets with this money that you sent."

Michael Yo 34:53 (laughs)

Joe Rogan 34:53 "So, you should feel happy that you're contributing to society."

Michael Yo 34:55 No.

Joe Rogan 34:55 Like, no.

Michael Yo 34:55 No invoice.

Joe Rogan 34:56 "Fuck you, pay us."

Michael Yo 34:57 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 34:57 "And if you don't pay us, they Wesley Snipes you."

Michael Yo 34:59 (laughs)

Joe Rogan 34:59 "They just send you to fucking jail. They Lauryn Hill you. They just send you to jail. They don't even let you pay it off. They don't say, 'Hey, fuckface, you owe us $3 million. You have to pay this off, and w- this is how we're gonna force you to pay it off.' And Wesley's like, 'Look good, I'm, I'm just gonna ... I'm sorry, I'm gonna go back to work, I'm gonna make that money. Give me a, you know, a couple of years to pay it off, and I'll pay it off.' No, no, no. Fuck you, go to jail. So, you can't even make any money while you're in jail, so now you're more in the hole when you get out."

Michael Yo 35:24 So, they put you in jail, but that doesn't take any money off.

Joe Rogan 35:26 No.

Michael Yo 35:27 Oh, it doesn't? (laughs)

Joe Rogan 35:28 No. You still owe all that money. Wesley Snipes had to do like a s- a thous- more than a year in jail.

Michael Yo 35:35 Ugh.

Joe Rogan 35:36 Yeah.

Michael Yo 35:36 Well.

Joe Rogan 35:37 So did Lauryn Hill. I believe Lauryn Hill did a year in jail.

Michael Yo 35:40 I mean, these taxes, man.

Joe Rogan 35:42 Fucking taxes.

Michael Yo 35:43 These taxes.

Joe Rogan 35:43 That's the only thing where you owe money, they put you in a fucking box. They don't do that with anything else. If you owed money on your mortgage, you just have to pay it.

Michael Yo 35:52 Mm-hmm.

Joe Rogan 35:53 You know, if you owe ... you had credit card debt, you just have to pay it. But if you have IRS debt, fuck you.

Michael Yo 35:58 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 35:58 You're going to-

Michael Yo 35:58 Just go to jail.

Joe Rogan 35:59 They make th- ... It's like they're thugs, man. They, they make an example out of you.

Michael Yo 36:03 See, and by you saying that, you better watch out. IR- (laughs)

Joe Rogan 36:05 I pay my taxes. I pay my taxes. I always have, and I think-

Michael Yo 36:08 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 36:08 ... you should pay your taxes.

Michael Yo 36:09 Mm-hmm.

Joe Rogan 36:10 I'm not ... I'm ... I've never ever tried any sort of manipulation to try to pay lower taxes. I don't think about it. I'm very happy that I get to live in America. I'm very happy that we have this incredible system where you literally can be a person who's struggling and go on to become incredibly successful. That we don't have a caste system in this country. It's not perfect. It's definitely not equal. There's definitely people that grow up in terrible environments, in impoverished, crime-ridden, gang-ridden neighborhoods, and they're way more fucked than I ever was growing up. However, you can go from a kid like me who was on welfare when he was young and, you know, when I was a little boy, and d- and go on to become someone who can make money in this country. You can, you can have an influence. You can do something. I'm p- proud to pay my taxes. I never complain about it. I mean, it's a staggering sum of money when you really think about it, but I'm proud to pay it. I think we all should be. But I don't know what they're doing with it. (laughs)

Michael Yo 37:07 Well, I- (laughs)

Joe Rogan 37:07 (laughs)

Michael Yo 37:07 Well, I tell you this, my dad-

Joe Rogan 37:10 Three years.

Michael Yo 37:10 ... uh, pays all ... What?

Joe Rogan 37:11 Wesley did three years?

Michael Yo 37:12 Three years?

Joe Rogan 37:13 Three years.

Michael Yo 37:14 And no money. You're making no money and-

Joe Rogan 37:16 But bro, when you're like, 52 ... Like, how old was he when he went away?

Guest (unknown minor participant) 37:20 It was 2010.

Joe Rogan 37:23 '10? So, he's probably-

Guest (unknown minor participant) 37:25 He was sentenced in 2008, and he went in in 2010.

Joe Rogan 37:28 How old is he?

Guest (unknown minor participant) 37:31 He is now 57.

Joe Rogan 37:33 Okay. So, he was like, 47.

Guest (unknown minor participant) 37:35 Yeah.

Michael Yo 37:35 So, he's-

Joe Rogan 37:36 So, when he was 47-

Michael Yo 37:37 He got out at 50.

Joe Rogan 37:38 Jesus Christ. That's a l- those are important years, man.

Michael Yo 37:42 Yeah. Man, uh-

Joe Rogan 37:44 You mean just doing push-ups-

Michael Yo 37:45 My-

Joe Rogan 37:45 ... and playing cards-

Michael Yo 37:45 And here's the thing-

Joe Rogan 37:46 ... hoping you don't get fucked?

Michael Yo 37:47 ... with the IRS, my dad pays all his taxes, but they messed up on his taxes. And-

Joe Rogan 37:52 They thought he was Jordan Peele.

Michael Yo 37:53 They did. They ... Yeah, exactly. (laughs)

Joe Rogan 37:57 (laughs)

Guest (unknown minor participant) 37:58 They did. They were like, "This guy makes way more money than that."

Michael Yo 38:02 (laughs)

Guest (unknown minor participant) 38:02 "Have you seen his fucking movies?"

38:05 My dad looks exactly like Jordan Peele.

Joe Rogan 38:06 Have you seen the pictures of his dad and Jordan Peele?

Guest (unknown minor participant) 38:08 Oh.

Joe Rogan 38:08 Jamie, pull the pictures up.

Guest (unknown minor participant) 38:09 No, no.

38:09 Go to my Instagram.

38:10 Jordan Peele did way less though, by the way.

Joe Rogan 38:12 How much time did she do?

Guest (unknown minor participant) 38:13 Uh, sh- uh, like three months.

Joe Rogan 38:14 Oh.

Guest (unknown minor participant) 38:15 Oh.

Joe Rogan 38:15 Hmm.

Guest (unknown minor participant) 38:16 Sorry.

Joe Rogan 38:16 Well, I think what was going on there was Wesley was a part of some-

Guest (unknown minor participant) 38:20 Yes.

Joe Rogan 38:20 ... wacky group that was saying that you don't have to pay taxes 'cause it's unconstitutional.

Guest (unknown minor participant) 38:25 (laughs)

Joe Rogan 38:26 Dude, sometimes people get locked-

Guest (unknown minor participant) 38:27 How'd that work out for him?

Joe Rogan 38:28 ... lis- the same way people get locked into thinking the Earth is flat. You talk to a couple of people that are very convincing and charismatic and articulate, and you're like, "Really?" And next thing you know, you're launching off in the sky.

Guest (unknown minor participant) 38:37 Yeah, that guy Tanner is his fa- tax protester as he, he was called.

Joe Rogan 38:40 Oh, so his tax protester's probably still in the pokey.

Guest (unknown minor participant) 38:42 Hey, maybe.

38:43 So, so-

Joe Rogan 38:44 Yeah.

Guest (unknown minor participant) 38:44 ... here's this.

38:45 Oh, yeah. Jordan.

Joe Rogan 38:45 Look at that! Come on, son.

Guest (unknown minor participant) 38:46 It's exact-

Joe Rogan 38:46 That's your dad. (laughs)

Guest (unknown minor participant) 38:47 Dude. DNA test coming.

Joe Rogan 38:49 That's crazy.

Guest (unknown minor participant) 38:50 Right?

Joe Rogan 38:51 I mean, that is absolutely perfect. Like, if there was ever a Michael Yale movie, that guy is playing your dad for sure.

Guest (unknown minor participant) 38:58 100%.

Joe Rogan 38:58 That's crazy.

Guest (unknown minor participant) 38:59 I know.

Joe Rogan 39:00 Like, it's not even a little different.

Guest (unknown minor participant) 39:02 That's exactly the same.

Joe Rogan 39:03 Exactly. He looks exactly like your dad. Amazing.

Guest (unknown minor participant) 39:07 (laughs)

Joe Rogan 39:09 The only thing that's different is the beard.

Guest (unknown minor participant) 39:10 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 39:10 Like, you take away the beard, that's the same pers- that's fucking stunning.

Guest (unknown minor participant) 39:14 It's crazy.

Joe Rogan 39:15 That's a, that's a doppelganger, bro.

Guest (unknown minor participant) 39:17 (laughs)

Joe Rogan 39:17 That's a real doppelganger. I mean, bro, look at that. (laughs)

Guest (unknown minor participant) 39:21 I know. I know.

Joe Rogan 39:23 I've never seen one that good.

Guest (unknown minor participant) 39:25 No, it's my- I, I was just looking through Instagram, and I was like, these- this is a... 'Cause people have mentioned it to me that have met my dad and seen pictures, and I'm going, "Ah, whatever." But then I found those two pictures, I was like, "Dude."

Joe Rogan 39:36 (laughs)

Guest (unknown minor participant) 39:37 This is the same fucking person, man.

Joe Rogan 39:39 The same person.

Guest (unknown minor participant) 39:39 This is the same person.

Joe Rogan 39:40 You know how they have those things where you, like, see Keanu Reeves in a 1920s photo and you're like, "Kro- Keanu Reeves is a fucking time traveler."

Guest (unknown minor participant) 39:46 (laughs)

Joe Rogan 39:46 Like, occasionally someone will look like some- and I've seen some photos of me in the Middle East, like, "Joe Rogan is really, you know, really lives in Pakistan or some shit." But the, the, that is about as good as I've ever seen.

Guest (unknown minor participant) 39:59 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 39:59 That's, that's the b- And it's not a blurry picture either.

Guest (unknown minor participant) 40:02 No, it's, like, perfect.

Joe Rogan 40:03 That's the difference.

Guest (unknown minor participant) 40:03 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 40:03 Yeah, like, the Keanu Reeves one, t- d- isn't there a Keanu Reeves one?

Guest (unknown minor participant) 40:07 Yeah.

40:07 It's black and white, though, and kinda fuzzy, right?

Joe Rogan 40:09 It's all right.

Guest (unknown minor participant) 40:09 I saw... Yeah, yeah, yeah.

Joe Rogan 40:10 Yeah, yeah, yeah.

Guest (unknown minor participant) 40:10 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 40:10 Like, he looks like he might be in the Old West or some shit.

Guest (unknown minor participant) 40:12 Bunch of famous time travelers.

Joe Rogan 40:14 Yeah, Eddie Murphy-

Guest (unknown minor participant) 40:15 Eddie Murphy.

Joe Rogan 40:15 Yeah, the-

Guest (unknown minor participant) 40:15 Nic Cage.

Joe Rogan 40:16 Let me see an Eddie Murphy one. Oh, the Eddie Murphy one's nah.

Guest (unknown minor participant) 40:19 Nah.

Joe Rogan 40:19 Nah, not really.

Guest (unknown minor participant) 40:20 Nah.

Joe Rogan 40:20 That's just, that's just, like, that could be Eddie Murphy's brother.

Guest (unknown minor participant) 40:23 Nicholas Cage?

Joe Rogan 40:24 Nicholas Cage, eh. Little bit.

Guest (unknown minor participant) 40:27 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 40:27 Little bit. Pretty close. Who else?

Guest (unknown minor participant) 40:30 Uh.

Joe Rogan 40:30 Charlie Sheen?

Guest (unknown minor participant) 40:31 There's Bruce Willis.

Joe Rogan 40:32 Look at Char- Oh, wow.

Guest (unknown minor participant) 40:34 Yeah, that's close.

Joe Rogan 40:35 Wow. Who is that guy?

Guest (unknown minor participant) 40:36 Do you know a Charlie Sheen? He looks like Lincoln a little bit.

Joe Rogan 40:38 T- yeah. With no beard?

Guest (unknown minor participant) 40:41 Kinda.

Joe Rogan 40:41 Sorta. That, the Bruce Willis one's kinda stunning.

Guest (unknown minor participant) 40:45 I don't, I think a lot of people draw these.

Joe Rogan 40:47 Well, they definitely fuck with it.

Guest (unknown minor participant) 40:47 Like, make him look old. You know what I mean? I think-

Joe Rogan 40:50 Yeah, I don't think-

Guest (unknown minor participant) 40:50 Yeah.

40:50 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 40:52 Oh, damn. That's pretty accurate.

Guest (unknown minor participant) 40:53 I don't think these are real.

40:54 (laughs)

Joe Rogan 40:55 Really?

Guest (unknown minor participant) 40:55 No. Only my dad's is real.

Joe Rogan 40:58 Look at the Jennifer Lawrence. Look at the Jennifer Lawrence one. Damn. That's pretty cl- Ah, no it's not.

Guest (unknown minor participant) 41:03 Yeah.

41:03 No.

Joe Rogan 41:03 Not really. It's black and white.

Guest (unknown minor participant) 41:04 But where's the Keanu Reeves one?

Joe Rogan 41:06 Hmm.

Guest (unknown minor participant) 41:06 Oh, yeah. I'll type it in specifically.

41:08 That's what I wanna see. Yeah.

Joe Rogan 41:09 Well, you know, there's only so many different shapes, a person's face. Wow, that Justin Timberlake one's pretty accurate. There's Keanu Reeves. Goddamn time traveler. Look at him. The weir- what's crazy is how good that guy looks.

Guest (unknown minor participant) 41:19 (laughs)

Joe Rogan 41:21 1530, there he is, once, born once.

Guest (unknown minor participant) 41:24 (laughs)

Joe Rogan 41:25 Uh, 1875, I'm not buying that one. They're getting better though.

Guest (unknown minor participant) 41:27 Yeah, no. No.

Joe Rogan 41:28 That's just another handsome man that was probably throwing tons of dick around in 1875, right?

Guest (unknown minor participant) 41:34 (laughs)

Joe Rogan 41:35 That guy doesn't look like him either. The guy on the right with his-

Guest (unknown minor participant) 41:38 No, those aren't even close.

Joe Rogan 41:39 Those, those are not close.

Guest (unknown minor participant) 41:40 But they, I know which one you're talking about. They had a black and white one-

Joe Rogan 41:42 Mm-hmm.

Guest (unknown minor participant) 41:42 ... that was like, he was kinda behind the photo kind of looking in.

Joe Rogan 41:45 Yeah, yeah.

Guest (unknown minor participant) 41:46 Yeah, I remember that one.

Joe Rogan 41:46 Your dad set the standard though.

Guest (unknown minor participant) 41:48 Yeah, it's uh-

Joe Rogan 41:49 It's over, it's over now.

Guest (unknown minor participant) 41:49 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 41:49 All the other ones.

Guest (unknown minor participant) 41:49 That should go viral.

Joe Rogan 41:50 Yeah.

Guest (unknown minor participant) 41:51 That one needs to go viral.

Joe Rogan 41:52 Yeah, yeah, yeah. It's one of the, these pictures.

Guest (unknown minor participant) 41:54 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 41:54 Where it doesn't, yeah.

Guest (unknown minor participant) 41:55 There's one where looks like a guy has a cellphone and a weird thing or-

Joe Rogan 41:57 Well, this is, it's-

Guest (unknown minor participant) 41:58 But the people are photoshopping themselves in it.

Joe Rogan 41:59 The t- Yeah, that's the thing. Today, uh, it's so weird. Photoshops are so strange.

Guest (unknown minor participant) 42:04 And real looking.

Joe Rogan 42:05 Uh, so real.

Guest (unknown minor participant) 42:05 You can't tell. You can't tell.

Joe Rogan 42:06 Do you, you watch Kyle Donegan's Instagram page?

Guest (unknown minor participant) 42:10 No.

Joe Rogan 42:10 No?

Guest (unknown minor participant) 42:11 Who's- I don't know who that is.

Joe Rogan 42:12 Oh, my goodness.

Guest (unknown minor participant) 42:13 Kyle Done-

Joe Rogan 42:13 I'm so happy now.

Guest (unknown minor participant) 42:14 Wait, who's this? I wanna know.

Joe Rogan 42:16 I'm so happy.

Guest (unknown minor participant) 42:16 I wanna know.

Joe Rogan 42:16 I get to turn you on to Ky- Kyle Donegan. Ge- go with Kyle Donegan where he's talking to, where, uh, Trump is, uh, talking to one of the Kardashians and he's trying to l- buzz her into the White House.

Guest (unknown minor participant) 42:28 Oh, like the old one with the k-

42:29 (laughs)

Joe Rogan 42:29 Yeah, dude. Kyle Donegan is the funniest motherfucker on Instagram.

Guest (unknown minor participant) 42:33 Wow.

42:33 Really? Okay.

Joe Rogan 42:34 100%. 100%. He's got these face swap videos. It's pretty far back.

Guest (unknown minor participant) 42:38 I was gonna say, he's got a lot more videos now 'cause he has 600,000 followers.

Joe Rogan 42:41 Oh. He's murdering it. When we first started talking about him, he had, like, 2000.

Guest (unknown minor participant) 42:44 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 42:45 Um, he does face swaps. And they're really obviously not that person.

Guest (unknown minor participant) 42:51 Uh-huh.

Joe Rogan 42:51 So it makes it even funnier, almost like South Park-ish. Right? But then he has amazing impressions, and he, uh, br- has these fucking hilarious videos.

Guest (unknown minor participant) 43:00 So he voices the people?

Joe Rogan 43:01 Yeah, yeah, yeah. He voices-

Guest (unknown minor participant) 43:03 This one-

Joe Rogan 43:03 Yeah, yeah. Okay, yeah.

Guest (unknown minor participant) 43:04 Oh.

Joe Rogan 43:04 Go, go large and start it from the beginning.

Guest (unknown minor participant) 43:07 (laughs)

Joe Rogan 43:08 And give me some volume.

Guest (unknown minor participant) 43:09 Okay, I'm at the side door.

Joe Rogan 43:12 Okay, I'll buzz you in.

Guest (unknown minor participant) 43:14 (laughs)

43:14 The door's closed.

Joe Rogan 43:16 Yeah, you gotta push it.

Guest (unknown minor participant) 43:18 (laughs)

43:19 It's locked.

Joe Rogan 43:21 Yeah, wait until I buzz you. Okay, push it.

Guest (unknown minor participant) 43:28 (laughs)

Joe Rogan 43:30 Why didn't you open it?

Guest (unknown minor participant) 43:32 There was a weird buzzing noise.

Joe Rogan 43:35 Yeah, that means, that means open the door.

Guest (unknown minor participant) 43:39 It's locked.

Joe Rogan 43:40 You have to w- you have to wait until I buzz you. Jesus Christ.

Guest (unknown minor participant) 43:49 (laughs)

Joe Rogan 43:50 Look him in the eyes. Look him in the eyes.

Guest (unknown minor participant) 43:51 But I just got here.

Joe Rogan 43:53 No, go in the door.

Guest (unknown minor participant) 43:55 But I can't go in the door, it's a solid.

Joe Rogan 43:58 Holy shit. No offense, but this would've been a lot funnier if I was in it. Yeah, baby.So, he does a Caitlyn Jenner. See if you can go back to Caitlyn Jenner-

Guest (unknown minor participant) 44:08 (laughs)

Joe Rogan 44:08 ... where she was describing her, her new pussy to, uh, the girls, and they're all getting grossed out.

Guest (unknown minor participant) 44:14 Kyle Dunham?

Joe Rogan 44:15 Dugan. Dugan.

Guest (unknown minor participant) 44:16 Dugan.

Joe Rogan 44:16 Standup comic.

Guest (unknown minor participant) 44:17 Okay.

Joe Rogan 44:17 Funny guy. Very funny guy. Yeah, his f- yeah.

Guest (unknown minor participant) 44:23 Yes!

Joe Rogan 44:23 Here it goes. Look at this. She's pregnant, listen to this.

Guest (unknown minor participant) 44:26 Hey, girls. Congrats on all the pregnancies. Yeah. Thank you. Thank you.

Joe Rogan 44:32 (laughs)

Guest (unknown minor participant) 44:32 Hey, guess what? Caitlyn's preggers too. Yeah, baby. (laughs) Wait, what?

Joe Rogan 44:40 (laughs)

Guest (unknown minor participant) 44:41 I bought a crack baby and put it in my cooch. Oh.

Joe Rogan 44:45 (laughs)

Guest (unknown minor participant) 44:45 How does it breathe? Babies can breathe in the womb, yeah. Oh, that's right. That's right. That's right. That's right. That's right. That's right. That's right. That's right. That's very good, that's very good. Do you have a womb? Oh, shit. Well, I guess it's dead. I better go plop this thing out before I get septic shock. Yeah. Oh, my God. Todd.

Joe Rogan 45:04 (laughs)

Guest (unknown minor participant) 45:05 Yeah? Your lip gloss is on fleek.

Joe Rogan 45:08 (laughs)

Guest (unknown minor participant) 45:08 It's Kylie's. Shut ... Yeah, isn't that nice? That's amazing. Yeah. Very nice.

Joe Rogan 45:15 (laughs)

Guest (unknown minor participant) 45:17 Tbbh. Tbbh. Tbbh.

Joe Rogan 45:17 I love how he keeps the stubble on-

Guest (unknown minor participant) 45:19 Yeah. (laughs)

Joe Rogan 45:19 ... when he's doing Caitlyn. (laughs)

Guest (unknown minor participant) 45:21 (laughs)

Joe Rogan 45:21 Like, he knows his Caitlyn ones, all the ones with stubble on.

Guest (unknown minor participant) 45:23 He probably shows all ... He shows all the Caitlyns in one day while he has the stubble on.

Joe Rogan 45:26 Uh, it's kyledunigan1, I think, right? Is that what it is? His Instagram handle?

Guest (unknown minor participant) 45:31 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 45:31 Kyledunigan1. Funniest guy on Instagram.

Guest (unknown minor participant) 45:34 Wow.

Joe Rogan 45:34 And that's just one of them. I, uh, dude, I, I check him every week just to make sure, just to make sure I haven't missed any. He does a great Bill Maher that Bill Maher hated.

Guest (unknown minor participant) 45:42 Really?

Joe Rogan 45:42 Fucking hated it.

Guest (unknown minor participant) 45:43 Did you bring it up to Bill Maher?

Joe Rogan 45:44 Yes, I did.

Guest (unknown minor participant) 45:45 (laughs)

Joe Rogan 45:45 Bill Maher didn't wanna hear it, didn't wanna see it.

Guest (unknown minor participant) 45:47 (laughs)

Joe Rogan 45:47 Got angry. And I go, "Oh, come on. Really?" I'm like, "Bro." He does a great, uh, Ray Liotta too.

Guest (unknown minor participant) 45:54 Oh.

Joe Rogan 45:54 Yeah, B-Bill Maher like pretended he hadn't seen it. We were all talking about it. We're like, "Come on."

Guest (unknown minor participant) 45:58 Did you feel like he had seen it?

Joe Rogan 46:00 100%.

Guest (unknown minor participant) 46:01 (laughs)

Joe Rogan 46:02 100%. He just, for some reason, thinks that, uh, e- like, he has a hard time with people making fun of him, which is ... Come on, you're a public guy. L- here, listen to this. Listen. Look, I get it. I'd like to tell you young people about the true meaning of Christmas. Would you like to hear that? Okay, so you were told that God put a miracle baby in a virgin, but the truth is, Joseph got Mary pregnant, okay? Oh! (laughs)

Guest (unknown minor participant) 46:30 Back then, they stoned women who had premarital sex, so they came up with a lie. A lie so big that stupid morons like you- What? Is he ... He voiced that?

Joe Rogan 46:40 Yeah.

Guest (unknown minor participant) 46:41 That's dead on.

Joe Rogan 46:42 Yeah.

Guest (unknown minor participant) 46:42 Sorry.

Joe Rogan 46:42 What'd you do?

Narrator 46:43 I, I, I hit big and it- Would you like to hear that? ... redid the whole thing. Good lie. They stole it from pagan religions. December 25th, virgin births. Google it, snowflakes.

Guest (unknown minor participant) 46:55 (laughs)

Joe Rogan 46:55 Did you really think that God would put his baby in a 13-year-old girl, yes, Mary was 13, and then just leave her to fend for herself? He's God. Wouldn't he at least get her a ride when she ...

Guest (unknown minor participant) 47:07 Oh, my gosh.

Joe Rogan 47:07 (laughs) Yeah.

Guest (unknown minor participant) 47:09 That's dead on.

Joe Rogan 47:10 He didn't like it.

Guest (unknown minor participant) 47:11 Dead on.

Joe Rogan 47:11 He cut his check.

Guest (unknown minor participant) 47:11 But you didn't even get a chance to play it.

Joe Rogan 47:13 No, he wouldn't. He's very forceful.

Guest (unknown minor participant) 47:16 (laughs)

Joe Rogan 47:17 Very aggressive. And he, he accused me of not watching his show. It was hilarious. Uh, I told him some episodes that I watched. He's like, "That was 10 years ago." I'm like, "You've seen the show?"

Guest (unknown minor participant) 47:27 Oh, is he one of those? Is he one of those?

Joe Rogan 47:28 No, he's like, "I don't, I don't even know you're a fan." I'm like, "Okay. I like your show."

Guest (unknown minor participant) 47:33 (laughs) Was it ... But i- I'm sure it's gotten more awkward with somebody else in here. Or was that-

Joe Rogan 47:38 Oh, yeah.

Guest (unknown minor participant) 47:39 Okay. All right.

Joe Rogan 47:40 Way more. Yeah.

Guest (unknown minor participant) 47:41 What's the most awkward thing-

Joe Rogan 47:43 He was the most awkward. Oh, geez. I don't know.

Guest (unknown minor participant) 47:43 ... ever happened on the pod?

Joe Rogan 47:44 I don't know. Can we move onto greener pastures?

Guest (unknown minor participant) 47:47 Oh, my God.

Joe Rogan 47:48 Go by ... Go over awkward things?

Guest (unknown minor participant) 47:52 (laughs)

Joe Rogan 47:52 It's just comedians that don't like being poked fun of, it's like, hmm, that's weird. Like, if it's good, you know?

Guest (unknown minor participant) 47:58 Well, you, you know what's funny is a lot of roasters, people that are great at roasting, do not like to be made fun of.

Joe Rogan 48:04 Mm-hmm. Of course.

Guest (unknown minor participant) 48:05 It's, it's so true.

Joe Rogan 48:07 Yeah. That's, well, you know that old expression-

Guest (unknown minor participant) 48:08 I'm not gonna mention any names, but I know, like, three that-

Joe Rogan 48:11 Mm-hmm.

Guest (unknown minor participant) 48:11 ... if you make fun of them-

Joe Rogan 48:12 They get touchy.

Guest (unknown minor participant) 48:14 Oh, yeah.

Joe Rogan 48:15 You know that old expression about ho's?

Guest (unknown minor participant) 48:17 (laughs)

Joe Rogan 48:17 About the girls who complain about girls being ho's are the biggest ho's?

Guest (unknown minor participant) 48:22 (laughs)

Joe Rogan 48:22 Right?

Guest (unknown minor participant) 48:23 Uh-huh.

Joe Rogan 48:23 Everyone knows that's a fact. That's just fact. That bitch is just such a fucking slut, like mm-hmm.

Guest (unknown minor participant) 48:28 Mm.

Joe Rogan 48:29 Mm-hmm.

Guest (unknown minor participant) 48:30 It's like the girl-

Joe Rogan 48:30 What's she been up to? (laughs)

Guest (unknown minor participant) 48:31 It's like the girl when you first start a date, uh, the first date, she goes, "Now, I'm not the girl to sleep on the first date." And then that, every dude knows, oh, I'm about to sleep with that girl on the first date.

Joe Rogan 48:39 Yeah.

Guest (unknown minor participant) 48:39 'Cause-

Joe Rogan 48:39 When they have to tell you.

Guest (unknown minor participant) 48:41 When (laughs) when they go outta their way-

Joe Rogan 48:42 Yeah.

Guest (unknown minor participant) 48:42 ... to tell you about it.

Joe Rogan 48:43 Yeah. They go out, right away, from the beginning, let you know. That's a weird thing that girls have to do, right? 'Cause every girl knows that every guy wants to fuck. Like, if a guy picks you up, he wants to fuck, and every guy knows when he picks up a girl, like, she might not wanna fuck.

Guest (unknown minor participant) 48:57 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 48:57 Like, this might not ever happen.

Guest (unknown minor participant) 48:59 This is, this is just dinner.

Joe Rogan 49:00 Yeah. It might not ever happen. It might not ever happen.

Guest (unknown minor participant) 49:02 But you know what I, I always say? Like, like, to women, like, you control it. Like, you're the goalie.

Joe Rogan 49:07 They definitely do.

Guest (unknown minor participant) 49:08 You're the goalie.

Joe Rogan 49:09 Yeah.

Guest (unknown minor participant) 49:09 So if you, if you don't-

Joe Rogan 49:10 Much like Harvey Weinstein.

Guest (unknown minor participant) 49:11 Ugh. Convicted.

Joe Rogan 49:13 Going to jail, son.

Guest (unknown minor participant) 49:15 And that's just in New York. He still has to get tried out here.

Joe Rogan 49:17 Oh, he's got it done ... A bunch of trials. That's just one.

Guest (unknown minor participant) 49:20 Have you seen how much he has aged in the last, like, eight months?

Joe Rogan 49:24 Oh, yeah.

Guest (unknown minor participant) 49:24 Like, me and my wife were watching him on the news last night.

Joe Rogan 49:26 Mm-hmm.

Guest (unknown minor participant) 49:26 We go ... I saw him on a red carpet a couple years before that and he was, like, vibrant.

Joe Rogan 49:31 Mm-hmm. Sure.

Guest (unknown minor participant) 49:31 Up ... And just the stress and the guiltiness and everything is just beating him down.

Joe Rogan 49:35 Mm-hmm.

Guest (unknown minor participant) 49:35 I don't think he'll even make it to jail. I mean, I, I, he-

Joe Rogan 49:38 He might kill himself.

Guest (unknown minor participant) 49:40 I told my wife that la- because-

Joe Rogan 49:42 Yeah, he might kill himself.

Guest (unknown minor participant) 49:42 ... you're gonna die in jail.

Joe Rogan 49:43 Well, he's probably depressed so deeply. Imagine going from being the toast of the town, posing with Oprah, top of the world, going to red carpet, everybody loves you, everybody thanks you when they get their Academy Award.

Guest (unknown minor participant) 49:54 Mm-hmm.

Joe Rogan 49:55 Have you ever seen a compilation of all the stars thanking Harvey Weinstein?

Guest (unknown minor participant) 49:58 Oh, yeah. Uh-huh.

Joe Rogan 49:58 And then many of them went on to accuse him, accuse him later of being a monster. But meanwhile, they're just praising him.

Guest (unknown minor participant) 50:06 Well, it's ... But you ... Don't you have to play that game?

Joe Rogan 50:08 Fuck.

Michael Yo 50:09 Don't you-

Joe Rogan 50:10 I don't know. I, I, I guess if you're-

Michael Yo 50:12 I mean, but any-

Joe Rogan 50:13 We talked about this yesterday. Owen Smith and I-

Michael Yo 50:15 Uh-huh.

Joe Rogan 50:15 ... were talking about this yesterday. We were on the podcast, we were talking about like how much I'm so happy I don't have to go on auditions, and I don't act, and I'm not, I don't wanna be a part of that anymore. That is one of the reason, when people think, like, "God, why is everybody in Hollywood so fake?" It's 'cause they're all trying to get cast in something.

Michael Yo 50:31 It's true.

Joe Rogan 50:32 They're all trying to get accepted by producers and casting directors and, and executives, and so they're all just, like, hedging their bets, like playing it safe. Like a guy on a first date. Just a bullshit artist. Just a, like a fucking slick guy with loose morals on a first date, trying real hard. Is this, was this him getting arrested?

Guest (unknown minor participant) 50:51 Yes.

Michael Yo 50:52 And how long ago was that?

Joe Rogan 50:53 Where's his fucking walker?

Guest (unknown minor participant) 50:54 He's walking, he's walking perfect now.

Joe Rogan 50:55 How come-

Michael Yo 50:56 How long ago was that?

Guest (unknown minor participant) 50:57 This was yesterday when he got up. He was walking perfect.

Joe Rogan 50:58 Yeah.

Michael Yo 50:59 Yeah. He was all, like-

Joe Rogan 51:00 Here's the thing. Why did they have to cuff him? Did they think that fat fuck's gonna kick anybody's ass?

Michael Yo 51:04 I like it.

Joe Rogan 51:04 Like, what, what's up with that?

Michael Yo 51:05 No, cuff him.

Joe Rogan 51:06 But isn't it weird?

Michael Yo 51:07 No, it's great.

Joe Rogan 51:08 The cuffing thing is weird when you, like, if someone's, I guess maybe 'cause he's been accused-

Michael Yo 51:14 If you don't cuff him, he could run a, and he could run away.

Joe Rogan 51:17 He could run where?

Guest (unknown minor participant) 51:18 (laughs)

Michael Yo 51:18 (laughs)

Joe Rogan 51:18 He could run where? His little fucking toothpick legs and his big old belly.

Michael Yo 51:22 (laughs)

Guest (unknown minor participant) 51:22 (laughs)

Joe Rogan 51:22 Look at that meatball belly.

Michael Yo 51:23 Ugh.

Joe Rogan 51:23 He ain't going anywhere. That dude ain't running. But here's the thing. It's like, I guess he's accused of violent crimes, so you have to cuff him. Right?

Michael Yo 51:31 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 51:31 If someone's accused of murder and they're convicted, you gotta cuff them.

Michael Yo 51:33 What happens to him if he goes to jail? Does he get Epsteined? Like, d- do prisoners... I, I know with any kids, if you mess with any kids-

Guest (unknown minor participant) 51:41 It's an old video, apparently.

Michael Yo 51:42 Yeah. I thought so. He doesn't look like that anymore. That's probably two, three years ago, right?

Joe Rogan 51:46 Oh, that was when he initially got arrested?

Michael Yo 51:47 Yeah. I'm about to say, that's not him. Right now-

Joe Rogan 51:49 Well, now he looks... That was one of the things that the court artist, there was a, an artist that drew him throughout the case, and she was saying that you could see his deterioration, his physical-

Michael Yo 51:59 Oh, yeah.

Joe Rogan 51:59 ... deterioration over the course of the trial.

Michael Yo 52:01 Have you seen him lately?

Joe Rogan 52:02 No.

Michael Yo 52:02 Did you... Oh, you got to pull up the video of him, like, yesterday. It literally, him walking out-

Joe Rogan 52:08 Yeah.

Michael Yo 52:08 He looks 20 years older.

Joe Rogan 52:11 I wonder if that walker shit's real. You think that walker shit was-

Michael Yo 52:14 No. I don't think it's real, but I think it became real.

Joe Rogan 52:17 Whoa. Dun, dun, dun.

Michael Yo 52:19 That's right. I think it was-

Joe Rogan 52:20 There he is. Oh.

Michael Yo 52:21 Look at that.

Joe Rogan 52:21 Right?

Michael Yo 52:21 Look at just his face.

Joe Rogan 52:23 Yeah.

Michael Yo 52:24 I think it was a thing where, "Oh, let's play it for the court," and then he just got so broken down through the process, which he deserved-

Joe Rogan 52:33 Mm-hmm.

Michael Yo 52:33 ... and it just took a toll on him, man. Look at him. This is, the video you just showed is, like, two years old?

Guest (unknown minor participant) 52:39 Yeah, so this-

Joe Rogan 52:39 Yeah, he was beating down.

Guest (unknown minor participant) 52:39 ... it was May 2018.

Michael Yo 52:40 May 2018.

Joe Rogan 52:42 Yeah.

Michael Yo 52:42 Look at him now.

Joe Rogan 52:42 Look it, he's lost most of his hair.

Michael Yo 52:44 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 52:45 And he, he looks so old and tired. He's probably not getting any sleep. He's a fucking beaten man. God.

Michael Yo 52:53 And he was on top of the world.

Joe Rogan 52:55 I- i- if, if there is karma, right? If karma's real-

Michael Yo 52:58 Mm-hmm.

Joe Rogan 52:58 ... that's the karma, 'cause this guy was on the top of the world, but he was like forcing everyone-

Michael Yo 53:02 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 53:03 ... to suck his dick. "So you wanna be a star? Suck my..." It's like demonic shit.

Michael Yo 53:07 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 53:07 You know, "Come on in."

Michael Yo 53:09 Now karma's like-

Joe Rogan 53:10 "Make you a star."

Michael Yo 53:10 ... karma's saying, "Do you wanna suck my dick?"

Joe Rogan 53:12 "Make you a star. I don't want to. I d- but I don't want to, Harvey." "Come here! Get over here! You wanna make you a star? Ugh. Sorry, sorry, don't tell anybody about this." Like, whoa.

Michael Yo 53:20 And then signed, and then his contract had it in there. You heard about that.

Joe Rogan 53:23 Yep. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah.

Michael Yo 53:24 Like, they had a disclaimer in his contract.

Joe Rogan 53:25 Not only did it have a disclaimer for one count of sexual harassment-

Michael Yo 53:29 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 53:29 ... two counts, you get, you have to pay up this amount, three counts, you have to pay up that amount. Like, he would lose money based on how many different counts of sexual harassment he had. So they were negotiating, dependent upon him being a predator. Like, they kind of knew.

Michael Yo 53:46 I, well, what do you mean kind of? If they put-

Joe Rogan 53:48 Oh, right, right.

Michael Yo 53:49 (laughs)

Guest (unknown minor participant) 53:49 They shouldn't say kind of.

Michael Yo 53:50 ... put it in a contract. They knew.

Joe Rogan 53:51 They knew. They knew.

Michael Yo 53:51 If you're putting in a contract, you know.

Joe Rogan 53:53 Yeah. Well, that's the other thing. How many people are also liable here?

Michael Yo 53:59 Oh, my thing is, when are the agents going to jail? The ones that kept sending all the actresses-

Joe Rogan 54:05 Mm-hmm.

Michael Yo 54:06 ... to the guy.

Joe Rogan 54:07 The one they knew.

Michael Yo 54:08 They knew. Everybody knew.

Joe Rogan 54:09 Well, if an actress can say, "Hey, Harvey Weinstein raped me," and then the agency says, "Listen, do you want this job or not?" Like, those, those people.

Michael Yo 54:20 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 54:20 Those people.

Michael Yo 54:21 But if you're an agent and you've known Harvey Weinstein for four or five years-

Joe Rogan 54:26 Mm-hmm.

Michael Yo 54:26 ... or 10 years, and you know he's been doing this, but yet you continue to send actresses-

Joe Rogan 54:32 Right.

Michael Yo 54:32 ... to this guy-

Joe Rogan 54:34 Well, here's the thing. Here, here's the q-

Michael Yo 54:34 ... shouldn't you have some type of responsibility too?

Joe Rogan 54:36 Yes. But here's the question. Did they think that he was just a pig and he was trying to talk those girls into willingly having sex with him, which many did, or did they think he was a rapist? Because he was both of those things, apparently.

Michael Yo 54:49 Yes.

Joe Rogan 54:50 He was a guy who had sex with girls who were willing to whore themselves out to be in movies, and he also forced himself on women who did not want to have anything to do with him. So he had both of those things were going on.

Michael Yo 55:02 But you don't think the agencies that were sending all these big actresses in, they didn't know, they knew the both types, A, they had some girls willing and some girls are saying they're raped? You don't think-

Joe Rogan 55:12 It's a good question.

Michael Yo 55:13 ... you don't think any actress ever go, went back to their agent, go, "I'm never going in again, I got raped." And then that, and then that agent was like, "All right, I'm not gonna send you anymore, but hey, over here, go in to Harvey."

Joe Rogan 55:23 Well, I like the way you're negotiating here, because the way you're saying it doesn't give a person an out. You're saying, "You don't think," 'cause no one's saying that they don't think that.

Michael Yo 55:32 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 55:32 No one's arguing that they don't think that. So you're saying, "You don't think that." So you're learning from that book.

Michael Yo 55:37 Yes.

Joe Rogan 55:38 Very clever.

Michael Yo 55:38 Mm-hmm.

Joe Rogan 55:39 I wouldn't say it that way. What I would say is, there's a high likelihood that they at least suspected he had forced himself on some women and there was probably some rumors. There was 100% likelihood they knew he was a pig. There was a high likelihood that there were some stories about some things that he had did that were probably criminal. High likelihood. I don't know how many people were privy to those stories. I don't know how deep it got in. Whether, I mean, (clears throat) like if you're an agent, how many actresses do you actually get to send to Harvey Weinstein?How many... You know, I don't know.

Michael Yo 56:14 I'm sure, I'm sure whoever he wanted to see.

Joe Rogan 56:17 Right. But I'm- I don't know what that number is.

Michael Yo 56:20 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 56:20 And I don't know how much they actually knew. What we can be pretty sure of at this point, is there's no way all these women are lying.

Michael Yo 56:27 Oh, no. I, no.

Joe Rogan 56:28 Right.

Michael Yo 56:28 They're all... I- I believe... Look, I know some-

Joe Rogan 56:31 Brad Pitt talks about the time he threatened to murder Harvey Weinstein.

Michael Yo 56:33 That's a great story.

Joe Rogan 56:35 Right? He threatened to murder him.

Michael Yo 56:35 Like, this is right after Gwyneth Paltrow, uh, was, uh ... Harvey Weinstein made an advancement on Gwyneth Paltrow and Brad Pitt confronted him and said, "I'll fucking kill you-"

Joe Rogan 56:44 Hmm.

Michael Yo 56:44 "... you do that again." So, Br- this is the thing. Brad Pitt knew.

Joe Rogan 56:48 Right.

Michael Yo 56:48 So, if Brad Pitt knows and he's one of the biggest movie stars, these agents know. I don't wanna s-

Joe Rogan 56:57 He says he, uh, b- per Paltrow, he approached Weinstein outside of a play premiere in 1995, and he told him, "If you ever make her feel uncomfortable again, I'll kill you." (laughs)

Michael Yo 57:08 (laughs) Brad Pitt went gangster on him here.

Joe Rogan 57:09 Wow.

Michael Yo 57:11 But this is in ni- Look, Joe, this is in 1995.

Joe Rogan 57:14 Hmm.

Michael Yo 57:15 25 years ago, bro.

Joe Rogan 57:16 Yeah.

Michael Yo 57:16 So, you're telling me that these agents in the industry... We all ... I, I didn't even know the guy, but he- I heard these stories.

Joe Rogan 57:25 Right. But this, what it said is that he touched her inappropriately and invited her to his bedroom. She told her then boyfriend, Brad Pitt, about it. See, that's what I think most people had heard. And that's gross, for sure.

Michael Yo 57:37 Yeah, but it's not crossing... It-

Joe Rogan 57:38 But it's not rape. See, that, I think most people knew about that shit. And Brad Pitt was willing to kill him over that, which I love. (laughs)

Michael Yo 57:45 Yeah. (laughs)

Joe Rogan 57:47 Yeah.

Michael Yo 57:49 But-

Joe Rogan 57:49 You know?

Michael Yo 57:49 Yeah, I just think it's a, it, it's a thing now, where, like we talked about earlier, it was over-correction with Me Too that was well-deserved, and now you're seeing these guys like Harvey and ... Get... Actually, money's not gonna get you out. Like, money can g-

Joe Rogan 58:04 But the Cosbys-

Michael Yo 58:06 Yes.

Joe Rogan 58:06 ... of the world. Like, he's ... I think he's the tip of the, of the monster pyramid. You know? There's Cosby, because he ... They, they, they did this thing about him where they said he's probably the most prolific serial rapist in history, which is like, holy shit.

Michael Yo 58:22 And he was doing it on the set of The Cosby Show.

Joe Rogan 58:26 Yeah.

Michael Yo 58:26 Like, he would invite actresses to ... "Oh, I wanna make a guest appearance on The Cosby Show."

Joe Rogan 58:31 He has tea.

Michael Yo 58:31 Take 'em to his tr- Yeah, has ... Go to his trailer.

Joe Rogan 58:34 Or they wake up covered in jizz with an empty teacup.

Michael Yo 58:37 (laughs)

Joe Rogan 58:37 What the fuck?

Michael Yo 58:38 It's like, "This is not the part I wanted."

Joe Rogan 58:39 Disgusting.

Michael Yo 58:40 (laughs)

Joe Rogan 58:40 And then they're probably like, "What happened?"

Michael Yo 58:43 Damn.

Joe Rogan 58:43 "Did that really hap-" They ... You imagine if America's dad raped you, and you're like, "That ... This ... Did that ... What?" Like, you probably ... If you were an actress and you went to him, you were probably thinking, "Okay, this guy is probably exactly like he is on TV. He's Mr. Huxtable, he's gonna be nice to me. And, you know, he's just a nice guy and he's just gonna, gonna try to help me out."

Michael Yo 59:06 I, I-

Joe Rogan 59:06 "He helps people out."

Michael Yo 59:07 ... I would think when these women woke up, they didn't believe-

Joe Rogan 59:12 Yeah.

Michael Yo 59:12 ... it happened.

Joe Rogan 59:12 There's probably a big shock.

Michael Yo 59:14 I'm making this up. Yeah.

Joe Rogan 59:15 Well, they say that that's one of the things that happens with rape victims, is that they sleep with the person willingly afterwards. And it doesn't mean that they weren't raped, but it's almost like they are trying to erase the shame of rape by going back to that person and actually willingly having sex with them. It was one of the arguments that Harvey Weinstein apparently had used, is that these girls had willingly had sex with him after these encounters. And then, you know, they tried to show that. But psychologists talk about that and they say that this is a coping mechanism that some victims actually wind up using. Which is just ... I mean, the mind plays crazy tricks on you. Right?

Michael Yo 59:57 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 59:57 And when you're going to someone who's America's dad, like Bill Cosby, and you think he's gonna help you out and give you that little boost and get you going in your career, and you can't wait to be there with the Academy Award going, "And I just wanna thank Bill Cosby 'cause he gave me my first break, and he's always been a beautiful mentor figure to me, and a father figure, and..." Meanwhile, empty cup of tea, and you got a headache, and your pants are off, and you're like, "What the fuck?"

Michael Yo 1:00:20 (laughs) Yeah, man. I don't like the argument that, that people make, like when these ... Like, you know the actresses thank Harvey Weinstein and stuff like that. It's like, you have to. He paid for the movie. You know? You can't be like, "Yeah, all-

Joe Rogan 1:00:33 Oh, the argument that they're not really, they're not really victims.

Michael Yo 1:00:36 They're not really victims because ...

Joe Rogan 1:00:37 Yeah.

Michael Yo 1:00:37 But, or, or the argument that, you know, "Oh, it took 20 years to say something." Like, you know, it's ... It's- that stuff happens where you just don't wanna say anything.

Joe Rogan 1:00:47 Yeah.

Michael Yo 1:00:47 You know?

Joe Rogan 1:00:48 Look, it's a whore business.

Michael Yo 1:00:49 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 1:00:49 Right? And people whore themselves out in one way or the other. There's men that whored themselves out and said things that they didn't really mean because they wanted to keep working, so they praised people that they really probably despised. There's probably a lot of that going on. Yet you can't say just 'cause all those people kissed his ass that he wasn't really a monster.

Michael Yo 1:01:07 Monster, yeah.

Joe Rogan 1:01:08 Yeah.

Michael Yo 1:01:08 But, but a lot of people use that argument.

Joe Rogan 1:01:10 You can't. You really can't. It do- it's not valid. It doesn't make sense. It's, it makes sense that it's distorted, that the whole thing's distorted and, and gross. And even more gross, maybe, than just a simple, "He met this woman and then he tried to rape her." It's more, even more gross. Like, they worked together for long periods of time, and her career success was dependent upon his acceptance of them. I mean, that's like the ultimate state of power, right? If you're the head of one of the biggest, most prominent movie studios in the world, and you bang all the actresses, and everyone knows it.

Michael Yo 1:01:44 But, also, if you go against him, he'll call the other studios-

Joe Rogan 1:01:49 And blackball you.

Michael Yo 1:01:50 ... and black- and blackball you.

Joe Rogan 1:01:50 Yeah.

Michael Yo 1:01:51 That ... I, I, I think if it was just, "Okay, he runs this studio."

Joe Rogan 1:01:54 Yeah.

Michael Yo 1:01:55 And, "He did me wrong."

Joe Rogan 1:01:56 Yeah.

Michael Yo 1:01:56 And, "I ... Okay, we're not gonna work with that studio." He will go out of his way to call other people to blackball those people.

Joe Rogan 1:02:02 Yeah.

Michael Yo 1:02:02 And that's where, that's where you're petrified.

Joe Rogan 1:02:04 Mm-hmm.

Michael Yo 1:02:04 Because, you know, like, we're comics, but some people are actors, and that's what they do. That's what they want to do. So, it's a thing where-... you know, if that's your thing, you have to play that game.

Joe Rogan 1:02:15 Yeah.

Michael Yo 1:02:16 It's no different than the Comedy Store. Like, I'm, I'm past that prime of hanging out there 'cause I have a family, but that's the game. You hang out in the club, it becomes a fraternity, you know?

Joe Rogan 1:02:25 Mm-hmm.

Michael Yo 1:02:25 And then you get passed, you know? That, like, you gotta s- invest time in that club.

Joe Rogan 1:02:29 Mm-hmm.

Michael Yo 1:02:30 You know, in the Comedy Store. And that's what everybody tells me.

Joe Rogan 1:02:33 Yeah.

Michael Yo 1:02:33 You know? And it's a thing where-

Joe Rogan 1:02:35 Are you not passed there?

Michael Yo 1:02:36 No, no, no, no. But I, my thing also-

Joe Rogan 1:02:39 Have you auditioned?

Michael Yo 1:02:40 No. No.

Joe Rogan 1:02:41 Well, that's how you get passed.

Michael Yo 1:02:42 Yeah, but I, I heard it's a, you know, they like to pass, like, people that invest time. It's like a fr-

Joe Rogan 1:02:47 Oh wow, how come you never just texted me, asked me to g- get you set up for an audition?

Michael Yo 1:02:51 I don't ask... I don't... You jo-

Joe Rogan 1:02:52 I'll set that up. I didn't even know. I thought you already passed.

Michael Yo 1:02:54 No, I'm there all-

Joe Rogan 1:02:55 I've seen you there.

Michael Yo 1:02:56 Oh yeah, I perform there-

Joe Rogan 1:02:57 Yeah.

Michael Yo 1:02:57 ... a lot, but those are promoter shows.

Joe Rogan 1:02:58 Promoter shows, yeah.

Michael Yo 1:02:59 Yeah, yeah, yeah.

Joe Rogan 1:02:59 You gotta be careful 'cause they're, they're probably gonna eliminate those.

Michael Yo 1:03:02 Oh, okay.

Joe Rogan 1:03:03 Yeah.

Michael Yo 1:03:04 Really?

Joe Rogan 1:03:04 Yeah, there's l-... Yeah, yeah, yeah. Just 'cause there's a lot of people that go up that are not really Comedy Store standard.

Michael Yo 1:03:09 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 1:03:09 And someone'll come to the first time to the Comedy Store and they'll see a promoter show, and one of the promoters goes up and eats shit for 20 minutes in the middle of a star stacked lineup. And you're like, "What the fuck did I just see?"

Michael Yo 1:03:19 Or they put a girl they're trying to bang on the lineup.

Joe Rogan 1:03:21 That, a little bit of that.

Michael Yo 1:03:22 I see, I see that a lot.

Joe Rogan 1:03:23 A little bit of that.

Michael Yo 1:03:24 I see that a lot.

Joe Rogan 1:03:25 A little bit of that. Yeah.

Michael Yo 1:03:26 Now, now, I'm gonna get heat for that, probably, like, uh-

Joe Rogan 1:03:28 No, you're, no, you're right. You're right. Heat from who? The girls that are th- throwing it-

Michael Yo 1:03:32 Well, I'm not talking about, but I've-

Joe Rogan 1:03:33 ... towards the promoters?

Michael Yo 1:03:35 (laughs)

Joe Rogan 1:03:35 (laughs) Yeah. It's, um, yeah.

Michael Yo 1:03:38 I hate that I said that. I know that it's gonna come back.

Joe Rogan 1:03:41 It's true. It's true.

Michael Yo 1:03:41 It's true, though.

Joe Rogan 1:03:41 It's true.

Michael Yo 1:03:41 But I've s- m- 'cause my friends are some of the promoters-

Joe Rogan 1:03:44 Yeah.

Michael Yo 1:03:44 ... and go, "Oh yeah, I'll put her on the show."

Joe Rogan 1:03:46 Yeah. Yeah, that's a fact.

Michael Yo 1:03:46 And I'm like, "Oh, real... Okay." You know? But-

Joe Rogan 1:03:48 Yeah. No, look, look, there's a lotta, there's weasels in all lines of work. It's, um, that promoter thing is a weird thing 'cause, you know-

Michael Yo 1:03:57 Yeah, you had your issues.

Joe Rogan 1:03:58 Well, it's, everybody's had their issues.

Michael Yo 1:03:59 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 1:03:59 And the, but the big issue is the quality of the performers. A lot of those guys that are promoting these shows, they're really, are not professional comics. They kinda like are sometimes comics.

Michael Yo 1:04:09 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 1:04:09 They occasionally do it. So they'll insert themselves into these star stacked lineups, like, there's D'Elia and Jeselnik and all these people, and they'll get up in there and do 20 minutes in the middle of that. And it's just-

Michael Yo 1:04:20 Do you-

Joe Rogan 1:04:20 The Comedy Store hates it.

Michael Yo 1:04:21 Do you, um... Like, I was with, uh, Jim Jefferies is on my podcast this week, and he was talking about he doesn't like going to Comedy Store 'cause he's so used to performing in front of his own crowd-

Joe Rogan 1:04:32 Hmm.

Michael Yo 1:04:32 ... that he actually gets kinda nervous going up at the Comedy Store 'cause-

Joe Rogan 1:04:35 That's why it's good for you.

Michael Yo 1:04:37 Exactly, exactly.

Joe Rogan 1:04:38 Yeah.

Michael Yo 1:04:38 So my thing is... But i- i- it s- must be different from you 'cause any time you're on a lineup, your fans show up there. So you're always playing home court now.

Joe Rogan 1:04:48 Well, there's some home court to it, but there's also a bunch of people who are there to see D'Elia.

Michael Yo 1:04:52 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 1:04:52 There's a bunch of people that are there to see Jeselnik and Whitney Cummings and Ali Wong and whoever the hell fuck else is there.

Michael Yo 1:04:58 Yeah, that's true. That's true.

Joe Rogan 1:04:58 You, you get all those things.

Michael Yo 1:05:00 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 1:05:00 You, you're winning people over, for sure. Is it as easy as no one knowing who you are? No. It's, it's, it's wh- it's... Or is it as hard, rather, as no one knowing who you are? No, it's not. It's much harder if people don't know who you w- who you are. Then you have to really win them over. But, you know, I did that.

Michael Yo 1:05:19 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 1:05:20 I've done that forever.

Michael Yo 1:05:21 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 1:05:21 Like, I know what I'm doing. Like, uh, doing standup at this point is really about being honest about the material, reps, putting in the time, putting in the effort, putting in the focus, and then grinding. You gotta grind. You gotta trust the process.

Michael Yo 1:05:34 D- do you ever get nervous before you go on, or is that gone?

Joe Rogan 1:05:36 For sure.

Michael Yo 1:05:36 Really?

Joe Rogan 1:05:37 Yeah, yeah, I get a little antsy.

Michael Yo 1:05:38 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 1:05:39 (inhales through clenched teeth) Yeah, I get a little fucking, "Here we go, here we go, here we go." I like that, man. I like being nervous. When I used to fight when I wasn't nervous is when I had my worst performances, always. When I got too relaxed, because you gotta be on edge, man, 'cause the, it's an unnatural state, right? Going in f- onstage in front of thousands of people is an unnatural state. You should be a little on edge. It shouldn't be like waking up or going to the gym or anything normal. It should be weird.

Michael Yo 1:06:06 There-

Joe Rogan 1:06:06 It should be weir- every time I go onstage it's fucking weird.

Michael Yo 1:06:08 You know what it's like? It's the closest, 'cause I don't fight, but like Gladiator. Like, you're a gladiator walking into an arena i- except they're not cheering you on at the beginning. They wanna, like, make me laugh, you know?

Joe Rogan 1:06:19 Yes.

Michael Yo 1:06:19 But with you, when they see you, they're like, "Ah!" But you still gotta make them laugh.

Joe Rogan 1:06:23 You gotta, you gotta think-

Michael Yo 1:06:24 You gotta, you gotta crush it.

Joe Rogan 1:06:24 Well, also, I have all these things that I put into my head before I go onstage. Um, not just about the material itself, 'cause I s- I have the, uh, o- over the last three or four years, I've altered my preparation for shows. And one of the big things is index cards. I take index cards and I write down all my shit before-

Michael Yo 1:06:43 Mm-hmm.

Joe Rogan 1:06:43 I'll spend a whole hour just writing on index cards. And then in my, uh, hotel room, before that, I will write. And it doesn't even have to be about the material that I'm doing. Sometimes it is, sometimes it's not, but I will write for over an hour. I'll make sure I do that. So I have two hours of solid writing the day of a show. And that's just to keep everything going.

Michael Yo 1:07:04 Mm-hmm.

Joe Rogan 1:07:04 That's like e- I want everything f- popping and it's sharp and I want it to be... I don't want it to be, "Oh, let me think about my bits right before I go onstage." No, no, no. I'm thinking about that shit all day long, and then I think about people getting babysitters, I think about people dragging their wife, their wife's like, "He's not even funny."

Michael Yo 1:07:20 (laughs)

Joe Rogan 1:07:20 Like, I- I think about all that shit. I wanna, I want all those people to have a good time, man. I think about people paying money, I think about people saving money, I think about people taking trips and driving in their cars and getting on planes and coming to see me. Like, I get jazzed up, man. I get fired up. I wanna do a good job. I, I don't ever take