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Joe Rogan Experience #1433 - Michael Yo

Michael Yo is a stand up comedian. Look for him touring this year including March 6-7 Gotham Comedy Club in New York City. http://michaelyo.com

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Feb 27, 20203h 24mWatch on YouTube ↗

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  1. 0:00 – 1:38

    Touring on weekends, family time, and the “girls vs. boys” parenting dynamic

    1. JR

      Two, one. Michael Yeo, I'm going on a big tour.

    2. MY

      I know. I'm so excited for you, bro.

    3. JR

      I'm not missing shit.

    4. MY

      No, you, uh, that's-

    5. JR

      People wonder if I'm missing podcasts. I only go on the weekends. I tour-

    6. MY

      Oh, really? You don't go during the week?

    7. JR

      Yeah. Never. Never. I don't like to.

    8. MY

      Why not?

    9. JR

      Because I have a family. I like to be home.

    10. MY

      That's what's up right there.

    11. JR

      Yeah.

    12. MY

      I mean, when you can do-

    13. JR

      I miss it.

    14. MY

      ... when you can do what you wanna do and be like, "I'm gonna be gone Friday and Saturday and be back by Sunday."

    15. JR

      Yeah. That's the way to do it, man. I, I've never done the touring thing. Like, Kreischer and a lot of those people, they go out for, like, a month. Fuck that. I get sad. I feel bad. I don't like it. I have kids.

    16. MY

      Well, I, I got two too and now I have a baby girl.

    17. JR

      God, you wanna be home, man.

    18. MY

      Dude. And my baby girl, man.

    19. JR

      Yeah.

    20. MY

      She looks at me like my son never looked at me before.

    21. JR

      Oh, it's a different thing, right? I don't know because I don't have sons, but everybody that has both says, "Whoa, the, the girls are just so loving and sweet, and the sons are just trying to light shit on fire."

    22. MY

      Yeah (laughs) .

    23. JR

      (laughs)

    24. MY

      It's so true. It's such a... And they don't love the, they don't love the fathers.

    25. JR

      Mm-hmm.

    26. MY

      Like, my son could care less about me.

    27. JR

      Yeah, that's hilarious.

    28. MY

      It's so true. Like, he loves my, uh, wife. Like, hand... I mean, side by side all the time.

    29. JR

      Really?

    30. MY

      But already, my daughter, just at three months old, my wife will hold her and she'll keep crying, and as soon as I grab her-

  2. 1:38 – 3:00

    Joe reads out the arena tour stops and riffs on regional vibes (especially Florida)

    1. MY

      No, with your tour, where you going? Like, everywhere?

    2. JR

      Everywhere, bro. I'll tell you where I'm going.

    3. MY

      Yeah.

    4. JR

      'Cause I don't even know where I'm going honestly.

    5. MY

      (laughs)

    6. JR

      I have to read it off. I'm going to, I'm starting off in Des Moines, Iowa, 'cause someone's got to.

    7. MY

      Yep.

    8. JR

      I did that because my friend John Dudley lives there. So I'm like, "Fuck it, I'll come visit you. I'll do a gig out there." Like, legitimately.

    9. MY

      I love that.

    10. JR

      (laughs) 'Cause everybody-

    11. MY

      You know-

    12. JR

      ... lives in Iowa.

    13. MY

      You know who does that? Bill Burr. He loves football so much. This is what I heard from some clubs, is he loves college football so much, he'll schedule game- I mean, uh, tour dates around big games so he can be in the city already.

    14. JR

      Oh yeah, he does that.

    15. MY

      That's genius, man.

    16. JR

      Yeah. Well, Burr is a savage. And he's also a man who does what he wants.

    17. MY

      Yes.

    18. JR

      You know? He's a self-made man-

    19. MY

      Yes.

    20. JR

      ... Michael Yeo. And then I'm going to Pittsburgh, love Pittsburgh. Louisville, Raleigh, North Carolina, Char- Charlotte, North Carolina, Las Vegas. Woo! Fort Lauderdale, Tampa and Orlando. I do Florida, like, once every three years, and every time I do Florida I come back and I go, "Goddamn Florida."

    21. MY

      You don't like it?

    22. JR

      Crazy place. I do, I love it.

    23. MY

      I was about to say, that's-

    24. JR

      It's crazy. They're cr- they're, they're barely Americans.

    25. MY

      (laughs)

    26. JR

      Barely Americans. And I say this with love. My sister lives there.

    27. MY

      Well, there's a lot of rednecks in Tampa too.

    28. JR

      They're fucking animals.

    29. MY

      No- no disrespect, I love Tampa.

    30. JR

      Yeah. I'm going to... Where else am I going? Uh, Tampa, Orlando.

  3. 3:00 – 5:08

    Hard Rock “guitar hotel,” Chappelle dates, and the fantasy of moving out of LA

    1. MY

      Are you doing the Hard Rock in Fort Lauderdale? Or are you doing the-

    2. JR

      Um-

    3. MY

      ... the big arena?

    4. JR

      ... I'm doing an arena.

    5. MY

      Okay.

    6. JR

      Yeah. I've done the Hard Rock though. It's great.

    7. MY

      Yeah. They, they opened up a new... The Hard Rock just opened up, they have the guitar now. This whole new-

    8. JR

      A guitar?

    9. MY

      They changed the whole... Yeah, they changed the whole hotel to a guitar, a glass guitar.

    10. JR

      What? Really?

    11. MY

      It's the first... Oh, you gotta show the pictures. It's insane. So they changed the whole thing.

    12. JR

      Really?

    13. MY

      And, uh, they have, like, a, uh, like, a 8,000 seater now, 10,000 seater-

    14. JR

      Really?

    15. MY

      ... in there.

    16. JR

      In Fort Lauderdale?

    17. MY

      Yeah, Fort Lauderdale Hard Rock.

    18. JR

      That's a great gig.

    19. MY

      Yeah.

    20. JR

      Fort Lauderdale is a lot of fun.

    21. MY

      Oh, it's amazing.

    22. JR

      A lot of fun. And then I'm doing Nebraska. I've never been to Nebraska in my life. I don't think. I'm doing Lincoln, Nebraska. Crazy.

    23. MY

      My, uh, my wife's father is from-

    24. JR

      Look at that shit.

    25. MY

      Yeah.

    26. JR

      Wow.

    27. MY

      Yeah.

    28. JR

      They built a giant fucking guitar.

    29. MY

      All gla-... That's the hotel rooms.

    30. JR

      Designed to resemble back-to-back guitars. Woo!

  4. 5:08 – 9:44

    Skiing injuries, concussions, and CTE concerns from football and fighting

    1. MY

      Do you ski though?

    2. JR

      I do, but reluctantly.

    3. MY

      Yeah.

    4. JR

      I only ski 'cause they like it.

    5. MY

      It'll mess up your knees, man.

    6. JR

      I fucked up my knee this-

    7. MY

      That's what I'm saying.

    8. JR

      ... with this winter. Some... And it wasn't even my fault, man. This lady slid. She was a newbie-

    9. MY

      (laughs)

    10. JR

      ... and she didn't know what the fuck she was doing, and she was, she was trying to put her shoe on and she slid right into the trail right when I was coming around this corner. I'm like, "Goddamn it." And I knew if I hit her, she was a goner.

    11. MY

      Yeah.

    12. JR

      That bitch was gonna get broken up.

    13. MY

      I almost-

    14. JR

      And so I went around her and I wiped out, and I got a fracture of my shin actually.

    15. MY

      Really?

    16. JR

      Yeah. I've got what's something called an insufficiency fracture. It's like where your, my shin bone hits my cartilage. It's fairly lucky really, 'cause it just requires, like, six to eight weeks of doing not much. So no running for me. I've just been hiking with my dog and I lift weights. It's not... You know, it, uh, it lets me know every now and then, like, "Hey, fuck face, settle down." But I've been doing yoga. I've been doing a lot of my normal stuff. I can't kick the bag. But it's not bad-

    17. MY

      It's not bad.

    18. JR

      ... as far as injuries go.

    19. MY

      I-

    20. JR

      It'll heal up.

    21. MY

      I skied once and I almost took out four kids.

    22. JR

      Oh Jesus, kids.

    23. MY

      Yeah. Like, literally would have killed those kids. I wa-

    24. JR

      Ooh.

    25. MY

      I couldn't stop. I couldn't stop.

    26. JR

      Oh, no. You're a big guy.

    27. MY

      And I'm a big guy.

    28. JR

      Oh no.

    29. MY

      So I was going at these four kids and their parents were screaming-

    30. JR

      Oh no.

  5. 9:44 – 13:51

    Media distrust, clickbait economics, and how narratives get manufactured

    1. MY

      Why, why is the guy getting shitted on, you said?

    2. JR

      (clicks tongue) Oh, there was an article recently that was saying that, um, he is profiting off ... It's most likely someone trying to discredit ... Like, have you noticed all the negative, uh, Bernie Sanders ads that, or articles that have been written lately?

    3. MY

      Mm-hmm.

    4. JR

      Like, really crazy ones. Like, uh, the s- saying, uh, b- some, calling him a climate change denialist, which is 100% not true.

    5. MY

      (sighs) Yeah.

    6. JR

      You know? There's, there's so many l- here it is. From scientist to salesman, how, uh, Bennet Omalu, doctor of concussion fame, built a career on distorted science. Yeah. I don't know i- if what they're doing ... It's The Washington Post, which is another one that re- they, they were also the ones that ran that thing on Bernie with climate change denial. (sighs) Goddamn it, media.

    7. MY

      Anytime you get-

    8. JR

      There's, there's so much horse shit going on in the news. So many-

    9. MY

      I can't watch it anymore.

    10. JR

      It's, it's just reading it and watching it, it's like so much of it is biased and distorted and they're trying to paint a perception of someone instead of just, just laying out the facts in an objective way. It's just so much of that going on now. It's just, I, I feel like it's a very unfortunate case, but I feel like one of the things that's happened is because of, uh, subscription models for newspapers, things like Washington Post and New York Times, they have to be outrageous. Like, sometimes in my Google newsfeed, I'll get, uh, a story and I'll click on it and then it'll say, "To subscribe, go here." Oh, oh, well, fuck you.

    11. MY

      Yeah. Mm-hmm.

    12. JR

      'Cause so they got me to click on it with the clickbaity shit, and I bet, you know, one out of a hundred or whatever will follow through and give in their credit card information and subscribe. But they, they're, they're almost starving to death. Someone told me that The New York Times only survives because of their podcast now.

    13. MY

      Oh, it's The Daily.

    14. JR

      Yeah.

    15. MY

      Yeah, The Daily is ... I- I used to listen to it a lot, but, uh, it's the thing where I- I think news, when we watch news, it's, it's more salacious than entertainment news. I remember ...

    16. JR

      Yeah.

    17. MY

      You know, they, th- they're all about the headlines and here's what I'm ... Like, they just had this Democratic, um, you know, the, um, where they win against each other, the debate.

    18. JR

      The debate.

    19. MY

      And the next day on the news, all they showed was the same five clips of Elizabeth Warren going after this person, Bernie Sanders going after that person.

    20. JR

      Mm-hmm.

    21. MY

      And they have 24 hours to at least tell you the good things they said on, like-

    22. JR

      Yeah.

    23. MY

      ... give me some policies or something. But no.

    24. JR

      No.

    25. MY

      They're just gonna show you those five clips.

    26. JR

      Yep.

    27. MY

      And that's, and that's what the debate. And then they go on, "We don't understand why everybody's mad." Because you're only putting five clips up that-

    28. JR

      Yeah.

    29. MY

      ... where all the candidates are mad at each other. The news is a big part of the division right now. And I feel like it's worse ... Like, entertainment news is supposed to be like Brad, Angelina, uh, Jennifer Aniston. But now you have poli- politicians. Elizabeth Warren and Bernie Sanders.

    30. JR

      Yeah.

  6. 13:51 – 22:58

    Bernie, Trump, tribal politics, and the case for long-form policy debates

    1. MY

      How do you see it all playing out?

    2. JR

      Bernie Sanders, 100%. The only way it's not gonna happen is if they give him some fucking CIA-

    3. MY

      (laughs)

    4. JR

      ... injection into his coffee one day. And his fucking chamomile tea-

    5. MY

      (laughs)

    6. JR

      ... they give a little squirt in there and he's like, "Ugh!" I mean, the guy already had a goddamn heart attack, which is crazy that he's doing this well. He had a heart attack on the campaign trail. I mean, bro, this is like... Look, if you have a car and, uh, you're, you're driving it over to the guy's house who wants to buy it and one of your cylinders blows-

    7. MY

      (laughs)

    8. JR

      ... and you're still like, "That's a good car, I'll fucking take it." Like that guy, you know, he needs that car. That's how much America needs Bernie Sanders. This motherfucker had a heart attack running for president and they're like, "So what? He's still alive."

    9. MY

      Let's go. Let's go.

    10. JR

      "He's still alive."

    11. MY

      Ho-

    12. JR

      "Let's go."

    13. MY

      But what's interesting to me, and I... You know, we were talking about it at this benefit you did, you came out and made this statement about Bernie Sanders. He was losing at that time. He was not the front runner. And after you said that, he became the front runner. D- I really believe you had a lot to do with that.

    14. JR

      I don't know about that.

    15. MY

      I mean, you have a huge audience, man.

    16. JR

      It might, it might have had something to do with it, but that's also (laughs) also why they attacked me, which is hilar-

    17. MY

      (laughs)

    18. JR

      ... ious, they did exactly what I said you can do about a person. I said if you take all the worst aspects of a person and ignore everything else and just magnify those, you can paint a very distorted perception of someone. And so they're like, "Good. Let's do that to him."

    19. MY

      (laughs)

    20. JR

      "Let's make Bernie Sanders look like a piece of shit for using that..." Well, also the fact that he used the most wishy-washy endorsement ever. What I said is, "I'll probably vote for." (laughs)

    21. MY

      (laughs) Probably vote for.

    22. JR

      And they're like, "Run with it."

    23. MY

      "I might."

    24. JR

      "Run with it. I like it."

    25. MY

      "I might vote for him." (laughs)

    26. JR

      Yeah. Listen, man, if you c- I always say this, this is very important, if you're getting your politics from me, u- uh, you're fucked-

    27. MY

      (laughs)

    28. JR

      ... 'cause I'm not the guy. Y- d- listen to Kyle Kulinski, listen to Jimmy Dore, listen to the people that are really paying attention, l- listen to The Hill, people that are really on top of it where it's their business. It's not my business. My business is standup comedy and cage fighting-

    29. MY

      (laughs)

    30. JR

      ... and then o- a few other things. I'm a comedian like you.

  7. 22:58 – 29:39

    Overcorrection, woke culture, and “The Four Agreements” as anti-tribal advice

    1. MY

      Like, you're blaming the other side for doing that, but yet, I see ... To me, Trump is so right, like, for that, for that party. He's doing his own thing. Where now, Bernie, I feel like ... I always feel there's an overcorrection. Me Too was an overcorrection. I think now, Bernie will probably get it because that's the left's answer for overcorrection.

    2. JR

      Yes. I think you're 100% right, and I think that's what's going on. I think AOC and a lot of other people are also part of this sort of philosophy of overcorrection, which is probably good. Uh, uh, th- I think we need that. I think people go back and forth, and we need to find our fucking equilibrium. And that's what, that's what humans do. You know? Look, th- uh, things are getting better, man. I'm a fucking rock solid optimist. I think, I think even the Me Too shit, what that is, is it's g- I mean, I have a bit about it, and I can't really talk too much about it-

    3. MY

      Mm-hmm.

    4. JR

      ... without giving up the bit.

    5. MY

      I heard it. It's-

    6. JR

      But-

    7. MY

      ... fucking hilarious, dude.

    8. JR

      Thank you.

    9. MY

      It's hilarious.

    10. JR

      But the, uh, the thought process behind it is that ultimately, the direction is moving towards less bad things. And I think that's the same thing with even woke culture. Like, I'm a, uh, a critic of woke culture. I think a lot of it is ridiculous, and I think a lot of it is tribal. It's the same kind of shit. It's like people decide they're on Team Ultra Progressive and, you know, and then everybody else can go fuck off, and they want to attack those people and force those people to comply. It's like a thought war.

    11. MY

      Mm-hmm.

    12. JR

      And that's what's going on. But when you look at the tenets of woke culture b- cut out all the horse shit, what are they trying to do? They're trying to have less homophobia, less racism, less sexism. They w- they want more inclusiveness. They want more people to have opportunities. That's great. That's all great. It's just they're going about it in this militant, psychotic way and wearing ski masks, and professors are hitting people over the head with bike locks, and everybody's losing their fucking mind. They won't even let conservative people speak at universities in a debate. That stuff is wrong, but I understand what that is. That's just rabid tribalism, and it needs ... That's an overcorrection. And it- that needs to be called out, and it needs to be, i- it needs to be stopped because the only way to really find out who you agree with is to let both sides talk. That's the only way. And then this idea that, this infantile, like, perception of, of people, including young people, that a lot of people on the left have is that you don't even wanna hear people with questionable ideas speak because then they're gonna radicalize young people, and they're gonna p- people are gonna g- get drawn to them. Well, that's a very egotistical perspective. It's like, "I can see they're full of shit, but these young people are not gonna be able to. And I'm smarter than them, and I wanna stop them from being able to speak."

    13. MY

      I don't like when people get mad when you have questions-

    14. JR

      Yeah.

    15. MY

      ... about what ... Like, if you ask a question to a different party or a different movement, and they don't like your question-

    16. JR

      They get mad at you.

    17. MY

      They get, they get mad at you.

    18. JR

      Yeah.

    19. MY

      And then they'll (laughs) ta- you like, "Wha-"

    20. JR

      But that's fools. But it's because it's people that don't understand all the tenets of rational discourse. You need those. You need ... Do you know what The Four Agreements are? You ever heard of Don Miguel Ruiz, The Four Agreements?

    21. MY

      Mm-mm.

    22. JR

      Um, it's a great f- it's a great book, and it's really simple. It's a small book, it's an easy read. But the, the four tenets are, first of all, be impeccable with your word, always do your best, don't take, take anything personal, and I think the other one is, like, don't have any expectations. I think that's the other one. Here, well, here they are.

    23. MY

      Okay.

    24. JR

      Don't make assumptions. That's what it is.

    25. MY

      Okay.

    26. JR

      Don't make assumptions, always do your best, don't take anything personally, and be impeccable with your word. Now, if you just apply those, and I d- a lot of people are like, "How does this relate?" The way this relates, this is a philosophy on just going through life, and all of these tenets, be impeccable with your word, don't take anything personally, don't make assumptions, always do your best, these are anti-tribal tenets. This is a way to not get sucked into this, like, really biased tribal perception that a lot of people get sucked into.

    27. MY

      Mm-hmm.

    28. JR

      And they get sucked into this team mentality, and they get blinders on, and they, they can't see things for what they are. We have a real problem with wanting to be in tribes, and it's just a part of our DNA. It's a part of our nature. It's how we survived to the 21st century. I mean, we survived by teaming up and, and having this loyalty to the people in our group to fight against the invaders who wanna take our women and our food.

    29. MY

      It's all, it's all fi- uh, I mean, you can, that goes from politics to even religion.

    30. JR

      Yes.

  8. 29:39 – 32:40

    Negotiation tactics from ‘Never Split the Difference’ and applying them at home

    1. MY

      It's, uh, I read a book called, uh, uh, Never Split the Difference. Have you read that one?

    2. JR

      Mm-mm.

    3. MY

      It's amazing, bro.

    4. JR

      Yeah?

    5. MY

      It- it's about, uh, an old FBI, uh, terrorist negotiator, and he l- he ... Basically, the book tells you how to talk to people. Like, he took that, that tactic they use in the FBI to bring it to real life, business and everything, how to talk to people where you can get them on your side, and just certain questions you ask where it, it, instead of them helping you, the, well, it turns it from me asking you to do something to you wanting to do it.

    6. JR

      Mm.

    7. MY

      It's brilliant. Like, it, it's a game ... I, I use it in, in real life every day.

    8. JR

      Real ... How do you use it?

    9. MY

      Well, it's, it's about the how question.

    10. JR

      Okay.

    11. MY

      You know, for instance, um, you're negotiating a price on something. Somebody says, "I wanna do the Joe Rogan Podcast studio," and it comes in at $20,000. And you go, "You know what? How can we make this where it's not as much?" Is there ... How can we, how can we lower this price? So instead of you going, "Hey, I need a lower price," and they go, "No, it's $20,000," you go, (sighs) "How can we get this lower?" Now all the onus is on them to try to figure out your problem.

    12. JR

      Mm-hmm.

    13. MY

      So you're basically putting your ... They're trying to figure out your problem for you instead of you figuring out the problem.

    14. JR

      No, you fucked up by telling people this, 'cause then they're gonna go, "Uh, we can't."

    15. MY

      I know. (laughs)

    16. JR

      And then you're stuck.

    17. MY

      But-

    18. JR

      It's like you're, you're playing chess here.

    19. MY

      I know.

    20. JR

      But they, they just, like, "Check."

    21. MY

      I just forgot about, like, how many millions watch this.

    22. JR

      (laughs)

    23. MY

      Now, now people are gonna be taking shit away from me now. They'll be like, "Oh, you did that to us?" (laughs)

    24. JR

      They'll be like, "Oh, I see what you're doing. I see what you did, you motherfucker. You went with the how. You came with the how question."

    25. MY

      I do it to my wife.

    26. JR

      Oh, how cool would this sound?

    27. MY

      And I mean, uh, but she knows I read the ... Every time my wife is at the house and I'm just kinda chilling-

    28. JR

      Mm-hmm.

    29. MY

      ... I go, "How can I help you?"

    30. JR

      Oh, Jesus Christ. What are you doing?

  9. 32:40 – 37:47

    Drones, taxes, and the IRS as a different kind of enforcer

    1. JR

      That is some high-pressure shit, man.

    2. MY

      (sighs)

    3. JR

      Imagine you're like, you're, you're dealing with, you know, ISIS or some shit, and you're trying to get hostages back. And you're trying to communicate with them and trying to figure out how ... what's the best way to do this without using drones.

    4. MY

      Mm.

    5. JR

      You know?

    6. MY

      Well, if you use drones, everybody's gone.

    7. JR

      Yeah. Not anymore. They're pretty good now. When they took out al-Baghdadi, uh, no, that wasn't al-Baghdadi, Soleimani-

    8. MY

      Uh-huh.

    9. JR

      ... they, uh, they only killed one other person.

    10. MY

      (exhales)

    11. JR

      Yeah, they're good at it now.

    12. MY

      It's scary.

    13. JR

      Well, it's ... Look, it's gonna get scarier. They're gonna be able to get drones down to, like ... I mean, they used to call them, they, they used to, uh, d- talk about the precision of drones, but really, like, a lot of the times, they're blowing up entire buildings and killing a ton of innocent people. Like, the numbers of innocent people that have overall been killed by drones is fucking staggering.

    14. MY

      Yeah.

    15. JR

      If it was a cop, if a cop had done what drones had done, you would be like, "That guy is a fucking psychopath, and he's just trying to kill people." Like, the, the decision that a cop would make, "There's a bad guy in this building, so I'm gonna blow up the whole fucking building." Like (laughs) you're going, "What?"

    16. MY

      (laughs) Yeah. Yeah.

    17. JR

      "You're gonna do what?" Like, there's weird decisions that you're allowed to make in two cases. One, war, and two, when it's not a human doing it per se. It's a human t- piloting a drone.

    18. MY

      Well, I mean, what was that movie with, um ... It was these animals, these mechanical animals killing everybody. And the movie had that ... It was, like, this dog type of creature. It was a big movie. I forgot what the name of it was, but-

    19. JR

      Mechanical animals killing people?

    20. MY

      Y- yeah. It's, it's ... They have all these robots now. It's a robot.

    21. JR

      I think Black Mirror, the Black Mirror episode.

    22. MY

      I- y- yeah. Oh, you're right. It was a Black Mirror ep-

    23. JR

      Oh, it was a TV show.

    24. MY

      It was a Black Mirror episode. It was one episode.

    25. JR

      Yeah. Yeah, I saw that one.

    26. MY

      But, man, like, these robots, they're jumping over things.

    27. JR

      Mm-hmm.

    28. MY

      Like, like, the, the mafia can just, like, buy robots now to go do hits for people, you know? Like, it's gonna get-

    29. JR

      Uh, I don't know if they got that kinda money. I think, uh-

    30. MY

      (laughs)

  10. 37:47 – 49:43

    The Jordan Peele doppelganger detour and the rise of deepfakes/face swaps

    1. MY

      ... with the IRS, my dad pays all his taxes, but they messed up on his taxes. And-

    2. JR

      They thought he was Jordan Peele.

    3. MY

      They did. They ... Yeah, exactly. (laughs)

    4. JR

      (laughs)

    5. GP

      They did. They were like, "This guy makes way more money than that."

    6. MY

      (laughs)

    7. GP

      "Have you seen his fucking movies?"

    8. My dad looks exactly like Jordan Peele.

    9. JR

      Have you seen the pictures of his dad and Jordan Peele?

    10. GP

      Oh.

    11. JR

      Jamie, pull the pictures up.

    12. GP

      No, no.

    13. Go to my Instagram.

    14. Jordan Peele did way less though, by the way.

    15. JR

      How much time did she do?

    16. GP

      Uh, sh- uh, like three months.

    17. JR

      Oh.

    18. GP

      Oh.

    19. JR

      Hmm.

    20. GP

      Sorry.

    21. JR

      Well, I think what was going on there was Wesley was a part of some-

    22. GP

      Yes.

    23. JR

      ... wacky group that was saying that you don't have to pay taxes 'cause it's unconstitutional.

    24. GP

      (laughs)

    25. JR

      Dude, sometimes people get locked-

    26. GP

      How'd that work out for him?

    27. JR

      ... lis- the same way people get locked into thinking the Earth is flat. You talk to a couple of people that are very convincing and charismatic and articulate, and you're like, "Really?" And next thing you know, you're launching off in the sky.

    28. GP

      Yeah, that guy Tanner is his fa- tax protester as he, he was called.

    29. JR

      Oh, so his tax protester's probably still in the pokey.

    30. GP

      Hey, maybe.

  11. 49:43 – 1:02:35

    Weinstein fallout, Hollywood power games, and how fear sustains exploitation

    1. JR

      Well, he's probably depressed so deeply. Imagine going from being the toast of the town, posing with Oprah, top of the world, going to red carpet, everybody loves you, everybody thanks you when they get their Academy Award.

    2. GP

      Mm-hmm.

    3. JR

      Have you ever seen a compilation of all the stars thanking Harvey Weinstein?

    4. GP

      Oh, yeah. Uh-huh.

    5. JR

      And then many of them went on to accuse him, accuse him later of being a monster. But meanwhile, they're just praising him.

    6. GP

      Well, it's ... But you ... Don't you have to play that game?

    7. JR

      Fuck.

    8. MY

      Don't you-

    9. JR

      I don't know. I, I, I guess if you're-

    10. MY

      I mean, but any-

    11. JR

      We talked about this yesterday. Owen Smith and I-

    12. MY

      Uh-huh.

    13. JR

      ... were talking about this yesterday. We were on the podcast, we were talking about like how much I'm so happy I don't have to go on auditions, and I don't act, and I'm not, I don't wanna be a part of that anymore. That is one of the reason, when people think, like, "God, why is everybody in Hollywood so fake?" It's 'cause they're all trying to get cast in something.

    14. MY

      It's true.

    15. JR

      They're all trying to get accepted by producers and casting directors and, and executives, and so they're all just, like, hedging their bets, like playing it safe. Like a guy on a first date. Just a bullshit artist. Just a, like a fucking slick guy with loose morals on a first date, trying real hard. Is this, was this him getting arrested?

    16. GP

      Yes.

    17. MY

      And how long ago was that?

    18. JR

      Where's his fucking walker?

    19. GP

      He's walking, he's walking perfect now.

    20. JR

      How come-

    21. MY

      How long ago was that?

    22. GP

      This was yesterday when he got up. He was walking perfect.

    23. JR

      Yeah.

    24. MY

      Yeah. He was all, like-

    25. JR

      Here's the thing. Why did they have to cuff him? Did they think that fat fuck's gonna kick anybody's ass?

    26. MY

      I like it.

    27. JR

      Like, what, what's up with that?

    28. MY

      No, cuff him.

    29. JR

      But isn't it weird?

    30. MY

      No, it's great.

  12. 1:02:35 – 1:09:46

    Comedy pathways: getting passed, promoter shows, and how Joe prepares for arenas

    1. JR

      Are you not passed there?

    2. MY

      No, no, no, no. But I, my thing also-

    3. JR

      Have you auditioned?

    4. MY

      No. No.

    5. JR

      Well, that's how you get passed.

    6. MY

      Yeah, but I, I heard it's a, you know, they like to pass, like, people that invest time. It's like a fr-

    7. JR

      Oh wow, how come you never just texted me, asked me to g- get you set up for an audition?

    8. MY

      I don't ask... I don't... You jo-

    9. JR

      I'll set that up. I didn't even know. I thought you already passed.

    10. MY

      No, I'm there all-

    11. JR

      I've seen you there.

    12. MY

      Oh yeah, I perform there-

    13. JR

      Yeah.

    14. MY

      ... a lot, but those are promoter shows.

    15. JR

      Promoter shows, yeah.

    16. MY

      Yeah, yeah, yeah.

    17. JR

      You gotta be careful 'cause they're, they're probably gonna eliminate those.

    18. MY

      Oh, okay.

    19. JR

      Yeah.

    20. MY

      Really?

    21. JR

      Yeah, there's l-... Yeah, yeah, yeah. Just 'cause there's a lot of people that go up that are not really Comedy Store standard.

    22. MY

      Yeah.

    23. JR

      And someone'll come to the first time to the Comedy Store and they'll see a promoter show, and one of the promoters goes up and eats shit for 20 minutes in the middle of a star stacked lineup. And you're like, "What the fuck did I just see?"

    24. MY

      Or they put a girl they're trying to bang on the lineup.

    25. JR

      That, a little bit of that.

    26. MY

      I see, I see that a lot.

    27. JR

      A little bit of that.

    28. MY

      I see that a lot.

    29. JR

      A little bit of that. Yeah.

    30. MY

      Now, now, I'm gonna get heat for that, probably, like, uh-

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