Joe Rogan Experience #1434 - Trevor Thompson

1. 0:00 – 1:57

   Coffee talk, Comedy Store training, and catching up

   1. JRJoe Rogan0:00

      ... Jamie. Three, two, one. Boom, and we're live. What's up, Trevor? How are you, brother?

   2. TTTrevor Thompson0:06

      Damn good. How are you, man?

   3. JRJoe Rogan0:06

      I'm good, man. Uh, you're a coffee snob?

   4. TTTrevor Thompson0:08

      Uh, coffee addict.

   5. JRJoe Rogan0:10

      Ah. What's the difference? When do you become a snob, like when you go, "Ugh, I wanna drink at Starbucks"?

   6. TTTrevor Thompson0:15

      Hmm. Maybe when you can tell the difference between all the kinds of coffee.

   7. JRJoe Rogan0:20

      Can... Oh, yeah. Right. If you could tell, "Oh, this is an Ethiopian."

   8. TTTrevor Thompson0:23

      "This is this, this is that."

   9. JRJoe Rogan0:24

      I guess they're all Ethiopian, right?

   10. TTTrevor Thompson0:25

       Thanks, Joe.

   11. JRJoe Rogan0:26

       Originally. I learned that from Peter Giuliani. That his name? Giuliano or Giuliani? I had a real coffee expert on here once who dropped the science on me. Cheers, sir.

   12. TTTrevor Thompson0:39

       Cheers. (glasses clinking)

   13. JRJoe Rogan0:41

       Yeah, he dropped some coffee science on us. (slurping) Shout out to Black Rifle Coffee. Whoo.

   14. TTTrevor Thompson0:47

       That's hot.

   15. JRJoe Rogan0:47

       Um, yeah, it's good stuff. So what's up, man? How are... You went to the, you did the full comedy store-

   16. TTTrevor Thompson0:52

       I did.

   17. JRJoe Rogan0:52

       ... gauntlet last night.

   18. TTTrevor Thompson0:53

       I figured like, "You know, there's a chance he's gonna be there. Let me look it up. Take my buddies." Yeah. It was fun.

   19. JRJoe Rogan1:00

       Yeah, we're there all the time. That's, uh, like what I'm saying, it's like the gym, you know. That's where, that's where we train.

   20. TTTrevor Thompson1:06

       You know, and you can see it, and it's rad to see. It's fun to see that kinda training going on with that kinda creative art that you need other people to respond to.

   21. JRJoe Rogan1:18

       Yeah, it's a weird art like that.

   22. TTTrevor Thompson1:19

       Yeah.

   23. JRJoe Rogan1:20

       You really can't do it in a vacuum.

   24. TTTrevor Thompson1:22

       No, I mean, then you're just talking to yourself. (laughs)

   25. JRJoe Rogan1:25

       Have y- how many c- have you been to comedy shows before?

   26. TTTrevor Thompson1:27

       A few. Um, actually I went to your show.

   27. JRJoe Rogan1:30

       Oh, that was in San Diego, right?

   28. TTTrevor Thompson1:32

       With, with Dode and Fromm and, yeah, yeah.

   29. JRJoe Rogan1:32

       Right, right, right, at, uh, Temecula, right?

   30. TTTrevor Thompson1:34

       Yeah.
2. 1:57 – 6:05

   Extortion 17 aftermath and the realities of war vs media

   1. JRJoe Rogan1:57

      You know, I was trying to think like all the different things that we talked about that we have to remember. Um, but one of 'em is, uh, shout out to our buddy, Andy, Andy Stump, who basically, uh... We were talking last night about one of the things that happened. Um, there was a, there was an event while you were serving where a helicopter was shot down.

   2. TTTrevor Thompson2:18

      Mm-hmm.

   3. JRJoe Rogan2:19

      And then you were the repl- you were the replacement group?

   4. TTTrevor Thompson2:22

      Yeah, so I was augmenting the group that ended up replacing the guys who passed away during Extortion 17.

   5. JRJoe Rogan2:28

      And that was a, a huge event, right?

   6. TTTrevor Thompson2:30

      Enormous. Huge loss to the special operations community as a whole.

   7. JRJoe Rogan2:34

      You know, I was listening to, uh, Andy's podcast with Cam Hanes that's out right now.

   8. TTTrevor Thompson2:38

      That's fire.

   9. JRJoe Rogan2:38

      Cleared Hot. And he was saying that, um, they were flying towards fires and, or, no, th- actually this was a different story, this was a different story. But he was saying that it got hit by, uh, an RPG at night, which is rare.

   10. TTTrevor Thompson2:54

       Yeah. Yeah.

   11. JRJoe Rogan2:54

       Like, apparently those things are not easy to aim.

   12. TTTrevor Thompson2:57

       No, they're... I mean, it, it's just a, it's a rocket-propelled grenade. It's, you know, shoulder-fired and you just point and aim. So the thing isn't that accurate.

   13. JRJoe Rogan3:07

       Hmm. So you, did, did they have a scope on them?

   14. TTTrevor Thompson3:10

       A rudimentary one, and depending on which one you're using, yeah.

   15. JRJoe Rogan3:12

       And so you're just kinda sort of just getting a sight picture through that?

   16. TTTrevor Thompson3:15

       Yeah, like, "Kentucky wind it is." (laughs)

   17. JRJoe Rogan3:17

       Oh, okay. (laughs) And, um, so that was, uh, that was a thing that Andy could've been in that group?

   18. TTTrevor Thompson3:25

       Absolutely could've, which is very tough for guys that aren't there that could've been there, to know that that's a possibility with so many dudes that spent so much time together, like him with those guys.

   19. JRJoe Rogan3:41

       Yeah, one of the things that we talked about last night was the difference in perception between what war is actually like versus what civilians think war is like-

   20. TTTrevor Thompson3:52

       Yeah.

   21. JRJoe Rogan3:52

       ... and how much of that stuff is sort of polluted by media, by movies and television shows-

   22. TTTrevor Thompson3:59

       Yeah.

   23. JRJoe Rogan3:59

       ... where they, they paint this picture of it.

   24. TTTrevor Thompson4:01

       Yeah.

   25. JRJoe Rogan4:01

       And then the only people that know what it's like are you, you guys. You're the only ones who know, the people that were actually there.

   26. TTTrevor Thompson4:10

       Yeah, and it's... I think it's cool what you're doing and what guys like Jocko are doing where they're allowing guys to, to paint that picture for everybody to see how it really can be from everybody's individual perspective, 'cause all of us get a different sliver of what's going on. You know, we all see a slightly different reality when we're there.

   27. JRJoe Rogan4:35

       Yeah.

   28. TTTrevor Thompson4:35

       Each person's different. But I think it's important that everybody gets to relate that to the US, especially because of how long this has been going on, you know? It's been 20 years of sustained fighting for a small amount of Americans, and-

   29. JRJoe Rogan4:52

       That's really insane if you stop and think about it, 'cause remember when we used to think about World War II or Vietnam, like, Vietnam dragged on forever. It was nothing compared to this.

   30. TTTrevor Thompson4:59

       It wasn't 20 years.
3. 6:05 – 11:20

   Trauma, memory, and war films that get close

   1. JRJoe Rogan6:05

      Yeah, um, I'm friends with Marcus Luttrell and, uh, he's gonna come on and talk soon. And, um, that's gotta be the weirdest one. You're watching Marky Mark play you in a movie-

   2. TTTrevor Thompson6:16

      (laughs)

   3. JRJoe Rogan6:16

      ... you know. And n- no disrespect, I think Mark Wahlberg is a great actor.

   4. TTTrevor Thompson6:20

      Yeah.

   5. JRJoe Rogan6:21

      He's a, he's a beast. He's a, he's a pretty inspirational dude. I mean, uh, I like Mark Wahlberg a lot. But to see that guy from Marky Mark and the Funky Bunch, like you've seen him.

   6. TTTrevor Thompson6:31

      Yeah, like, "Bro-"

   7. JRJoe Rogan6:32

      You've seen, yeah.

   8. TTTrevor Thompson6:32

      "... I've seen you in whitey-tighties. What's going on here?" (laughs)

   9. JRJoe Rogan6:35

      I've seen you in the Calvin Klein's ads and now you're playing me. Like that has got, for Marcus-

   10. TTTrevor Thompson6:39

       Yes.

   11. JRJoe Rogan6:39

       ... that's gotta be so weird.

   12. TTTrevor Thompson6:40

       Super weird.

   13. JRJoe Rogan6:41

       Just like some guy. And probably saying a bunch of shit he never really said.

   14. TTTrevor Thompson6:46

       Oh, yeah.

   15. JRJoe Rogan6:46

       And the other guy is what? Bradley Cooper was his buddy in the movie? Who was the other guy?

   16. TTTrevor Thompson6:50

       Oh, yeah.

   17. JRJoe Rogan6:51

       Wasn't it?

   18. TTTrevor Thompson6:52

       And, uh... That's right.

   19. JRJoe Rogan6:54

       That's gotta be so bizarre.

   20. TTTrevor Thompson6:55

       I totally... Yeah.

   21. JRJoe Rogan6:56

       So bizarre. This horrific event in your life that probably... I mean, I don't wanna speak for Marcus, but it's gotta still be in his head every day.

   22. TTTrevor Thompson7:06

       Absolutely.

   23. JRJoe Rogan7:07

       All day long.

   24. TTTrevor Thompson7:08

       That stuff doesn't go away.

   25. JRJoe Rogan7:09

       Yeah.

   26. TTTrevor Thompson7:09

       You know, you, w- we, we all individually think, "Oh, yeah, you know, m- maybe it does kinda fade." But that's only 'cause you're not the one who lived it.

   27. JRJoe Rogan7:19

       Exactly.

   28. TTTrevor Thompson7:20

       With everything.

   29. JRJoe Rogan7:20

       Yeah, with everything. With everything. Yeah, we're very insensitive to the way other people feel about traumatic events or, or ch- chaos, or things that we can't understand.

   30. TTTrevor Thompson7:30

       Yeah, it's part of who you are.
4. 11:20 – 18:11

   From art school to Navy SEAL: Trevor’s origin story

   1. JRJoe Rogan11:20

      What was your insi- what's really crazy is you're a fucking super talented artist. Let's show these people this. Trevor made this. This is, uh, he says, "Red Cloud Sun."

   2. TTTrevor Thompson11:31

      Yeah, Jack Red Cloud.

   3. JRJoe Rogan11:32

      Can you see that? Can people see that? It's fucking great, man. You're really talented.

   4. TTTrevor Thompson11:36

      Thanks, man.

   5. JRJoe Rogan11:36

      So you went to school for art?

   6. TTTrevor Thompson11:38

      I did. So I went to the Chicago Art Institute for a year, uh, before I joined the Navy. And my entire family has a lot of art background. My mom studied at college. My dad does bronzes and, uh, he actually does a sports cartoon for the, uh, LA Times.

   7. JRJoe Rogan11:54

      Oh, whoa.

   8. TTTrevor Thompson11:55

      Yeah. So it's been something I've seen growing up. And I was playing music a lot and doing art, and picked art 'cause that was what I was most passionate about.That was, what, 2006, and about three months into college, I'm like, "Fuck this place."

   9. JRJoe Rogan12:13

      (laughs)

   10. TTTrevor Thompson12:13

       "I want no part of this."

   11. JRJoe Rogan12:14

       What was it?

   12. TTTrevor Thompson12:16

       I just didn't feel like I was doing anything with, with, with so much shit going on in '06.

   13. JRJoe Rogan12:21

       Oh, okay.

   14. TTTrevor Thompson12:21

       Yeah.

   15. JRJoe Rogan12:22

       Yeah.

   16. TTTrevor Thompson12:22

       Um, and like, both my granddad served and great-granddad served, and we've had a lot of military history. So I think that subconsciously, I felt a little bit of an impetus to do that.

   17. JRJoe Rogan12:34

       Mm-hmm.

   18. TTTrevor Thompson12:34

       Like, "Hey, y- maybe I should just give it a go, and if I'm gonna do it, I'm gonna do the hardest thing I can figure out." Thought about it, I'm like, "Yeah, Mom and Dad, so I'm dropping out of school. I'm gonna go be a Navy SEAL." And (laughs) I can only imagine the other side of that phone, like, "What the fuck is going on?"

   19. JRJoe Rogan12:52

       (laughs)

   20. TTTrevor Thompson12:52

       "How high is he? What is happening over there?"

   21. JRJoe Rogan12:55

       (laughs) So you made a phone call from college?

   22. TTTrevor Thompson12:57

       Oh, yeah.

   23. JRJoe Rogan12:58

       Wow, where were you going to school?

   24. TTTrevor Thompson12:59

       Chicago Art Institute.

   25. JRJoe Rogan13:00

       And your family lives in?

   26. TTTrevor Thompson13:02

       LA.

   27. JRJoe Rogan13:03

       Oh, Jesus.

   28. TTTrevor Thompson13:03

       Yeah, in Westlake.

   29. JRJoe Rogan13:04

       Wow.

   30. TTTrevor Thompson13:05

       Yeah.
5. 18:11 – 29:43

   First deployments: SDV ‘wet subs’ and deep-water mind games

   1. JRJoe Rogan18:11

      What was your first deployment like?

   2. TTTrevor Thompson18:13

      So my first one was with, uh, a team out in Hawaii where we were doing submersible work, so I drove like a 22-foot mini sub for (laughs) five years.

   3. JRJoe Rogan18:24

      Really?

   4. TTTrevor Thompson18:24

      Oh, yeah. And, uh, we were doing some, like, waterborne activities and then-

   5. JRJoe Rogan18:28

      How deep does it go?

   6. TTTrevor Thompson18:31

      That's classified.

   7. JRJoe Rogan18:32

      Oh, really?

   8. TTTrevor Thompson18:32

      But yeah. Uh, it- it can go-

   9. JRJoe Rogan18:34

      Deep as fuck?

   10. TTTrevor Thompson18:34

       ... it can go really deep. Yeah. But it's a, it's a wet submarine, so-

   11. JRJoe Rogan18:37

       Was it-

   12. TTTrevor Thompson18:37

       ... we're on, we're on scuba. It's all, like, you're, you're in the water, not just underwater.

   13. JRJoe Rogan18:42

       Oh, really?

   14. TTTrevor Thompson18:43

       Yeah.

   15. JRJoe Rogan18:44

       So you're wearing scuba gear while you're piloting this thing?

   16. TTTrevor Thompson18:47

       Yep.

   17. JRJoe Rogan18:47

       So water gets in there?

   18. TTTrevor Thompson18:49

       Yep.

   19. JRJoe Rogan18:49

       Whoa.

   20. TTTrevor Thompson18:50

       It's like a... Y- y- you can probably pull up a picture of it.

   21. JRJoe Rogan18:53

       Bro, that's a mind fuck atop of a mind fuck.

   22. TTTrevor Thompson18:56

       SDV.

   23. JRJoe Rogan18:57

       Just being in a scuba is crazy, but being in a scuba gear inside of a fucking submarine.

   24. TTTrevor Thompson19:02

       With the door shut.

   25. JRJoe Rogan19:04

       Oh, Jesus Christ.

   26. TTTrevor Thompson19:05

       (laughs) So-

   27. JRJoe Rogan19:06

       How much air you got in there?

   28. TTTrevor Thompson19:07

       Enough. (laughs)

   29. JRJoe Rogan19:11

       (laughs) That's what it looks like?

   30. TTTrevor Thompson19:11

       There she is.
6. 29:43 – 31:15

   Captivity ethics, sanctuaries, and what we do to animals

   1. JRJoe Rogan29:43

      Yeah, this, um, the, the fact that we're still here in 2020 and they have SeaWorld where they make those fucking things do tricks for fish-

   2. TTTrevor Thompson29:52

      Oh, man.

   3. JRJoe Rogan29:52

      And that shit is dark.

   4. TTTrevor Thompson29:54

      It's super dark.

   5. JRJoe Rogan29:55

      It's dark. That might as well be slavery.

   6. TTTrevor Thompson29:57

      I-

   7. JRJoe Rogan29:57

      It's like a different animal. I mean, a different kind of human or-

   8. TTTrevor Thompson30:01

      I feel so bad.

   9. JRJoe Rogan30:01

      ... a different kind of, uh, intelligent creature that you're-

   10. TTTrevor Thompson30:04

       Yeah.

   11. JRJoe Rogan30:04

       ... keeping in a fucking swimming pool.

   12. TTTrevor Thompson30:06

       I, I feel so bad for all of them in not just, like, not just the aquariums, but, like, zoos too. It kills me.

   13. JRJoe Rogan30:14

       Mm-hmm.

   14. TTTrevor Thompson30:14

       Like, you go somewhere and-

   15. JRJoe Rogan30:16

       Yeah.

   16. TTTrevor Thompson30:17

       ... like, "Oh, there's a polar bear. That's really cool. They painted the whole-"... place like it's snow.

   17. JRJoe Rogan30:21

       Yeah, meanwhile it's fucking 80 degrees outside in Santa Rosa.

   18. TTTrevor Thompson30:23

       65 degrees out, yeah. It's like, come on.

   19. JRJoe Rogan30:25

       Yeah.

   20. TTTrevor Thompson30:26

       Now, I understand they're doing a lot of good work in the back end, but-

   21. JRJoe Rogan30:28

       Yeah.

   22. TTTrevor Thompson30:28

       ... do we really need to put them on display, like-

   23. JRJoe Rogan30:31

       I know, it's weird.

   24. TTTrevor Thompson30:31

       ... like a, a gift shop?

   25. JRJoe Rogan30:33

       I went to this, uh, Wolf Connection recently, um, which is a, like a wolf sanctuary out near, uh, Palmdale and, um, these people are doing great work. They're really nice people. They're taking care of these wolves and, uh, it's mostly Black people get wolves and try to keep them as pets and they realize they can't.

   26. TTTrevor Thompson30:50

       Yeah.

   27. JRJoe Rogan30:50

       They can't control them at all.

   28. TTTrevor Thompson30:50

       The like quarter wolf or eighth wolf type of animal?

   29. JRJoe Rogan30:53

       Some of them, but most of them are like seven-eighths wolf.

   30. TTTrevor Thompson30:56

       Okay.
7. 31:15 – 37:23

   Spay/neuter debate and Joe’s feral cat war stories

   1. JRJoe Rogan31:15

      And they castrate them.

   2. TTTrevor Thompson31:16

      Oh, God.

   3. JRJoe Rogan31:17

      They fix them because they don't want them making babies.

   4. TTTrevor Thompson31:19

      Isn't it, isn't it weird how we kind of whitewash that statement? Yeah, it's, it's a fixed animal.

   5. JRJoe Rogan31:23

      Yeah.

   6. TTTrevor Thompson31:24

      Fi- You-

   7. JRJoe Rogan31:24

      Yeah. Is he neutered?

   8. TTTrevor Thompson31:25

      You, you fucked it up.

   9. JRJoe Rogan31:26

      No, you cut his balls off.

   10. TTTrevor Thompson31:27

       Yeah.

   11. JRJoe Rogan31:27

       Just say it. Say what you did. And everybody does that. And it's a, it's a weird thing, man. Like I went to a vet once with, uh, my old dog, Johnny Cash. And when I brought him in, uh, the, the vet goes... She, she touches his balls. She goes, "Why does he still have these?" I go, "Because the- they make testosterone and that's what keeps him healthy." Like, "What are you talking about?"

   12. TTTrevor Thompson31:46

       Yeah. He was born with those.

   13. JRJoe Rogan31:46

       I'm not gonna let him-

   14. TTTrevor Thompson31:47

       They're there for a reason.

   15. JRJoe Rogan31:48

       I'm not gonna let him fuck dogs in heat and make babies. He's with me all the time.

   16. TTTrevor Thompson31:52

       (laughs) Yeah.

   17. JRJoe Rogan31:53

       (laughs) You know?

   18. TTTrevor Thompson31:53

       He's not gonna disappear.

   19. JRJoe Rogan31:55

       Yeah, it's not like he's gonna fucking get out and make a bunch of babies. Like this is a well-cared-for dog in a nice yard. Like he's good, trust me.

   20. TTTrevor Thompson32:02

       Yeah.

   21. JRJoe Rogan32:03

       He doesn't have to get his balls chopped off. And my vet, um, that... I, I had a vet who was a, a good friend who wound up dying in a drunk driving acc- some fucking asshole slammed into him.

   22. TTTrevor Thompson32:12

       Oh, God.

   23. JRJoe Rogan32:13

       But he told me, he goes, "It's not necessary." He goes, "And it does affect the dog's energy level. It does affect the dog's hormonal growth." Like whether... If you do it when a dog's really young, they never grow to full maturity. They sort of stay like a puppy for a long time.

   24. TTTrevor Thompson32:28

       Yeah.

   25. JRJoe Rogan32:28

       And I had a dog like that, that we got, um... It was, um, a rescue dog. Well, it actually wasn't a rescue dog. We got him from a pet store and he had been castrated really young. Uh-

   26. TTTrevor Thompson32:37

       Pet store, so you did rescue him.

   27. JRJoe Rogan32:38

       Yes, I guess I did. Yeah. It wasn't my idea. My wife got him. But he was a bitch. He was just... Hated every other dog. Hated... You know, he'd growl at you.

   28. TTTrevor Thompson32:48

       Yeah.

   29. JRJoe Rogan32:48

       He'd growl at kids and he just was always insecure because, like, he never grew up with testosterone. Like when he was little, he was clipped.

   30. TTTrevor Thompson32:54

       Never gets a boner.
8. 37:23 – 40:15

   Predators, conservation, and eating the ‘unpopular’ animals

   1. JRJoe Rogan37:23

      Have you ever encountered a mountain lion? Didn't we talk about those?

   2. TTTrevor Thompson37:25

      We did.

   3. JRJoe Rogan37:26

      Yeah.

   4. TTTrevor Thompson37:26

      We did talk about it. So I saw one when I was young.

   5. JRJoe Rogan37:27

      Oh, that video's one of my favorite videos. Play that again, Jamie.

   6. JVJamie Vernon37:30

      About every seven seconds.

   7. JRJoe Rogan37:32

      This video is this fucking deer going to a, a drinking... Like, "I'll just have a little drink of water here."

   8. TTTrevor Thompson37:37

      It's nighttime.

   9. JRJoe Rogan37:37

      And then look at the eyes behind him.

   10. TTTrevor Thompson37:38

       "I'm safe." Oh.

   11. JRJoe Rogan37:39

       Here comes the eyes. That's a wrap, son.

   12. TTTrevor Thompson37:42

       Boom.

   13. JRJoe Rogan37:43

       Boom. Like a fucking super athlete.

   14. TTTrevor Thompson37:44

       Dude, mouth first-

   15. JRJoe Rogan37:46

       Yeah.

   16. TTTrevor Thompson37:46

       ... into the throat.

   17. JRJoe Rogan37:47

       Yeah.

   18. TTTrevor Thompson37:48

       "I got you, bitch."

   19. JRJoe Rogan37:49

       And then the claws just grab ahold so they can get a, a good clamp down on the throat.

   20. TTTrevor Thompson37:54

       Dude, big cats are scary.

   21. JRJoe Rogan37:55

       Dude, there's a p- well, uh, that's what I was telling you. Tejon Ranch, they have a, um, a camera trap over a water hole. And in that one pond, they found 16 different cats. (laughs)

   22. TTTrevor Thompson38:09

       Full of-

   23. JRJoe Rogan38:09

       16 different big-ass-

   24. TTTrevor Thompson38:10

       Full of poundage.

   25. JRJoe Rogan38:11

       ... predatory cats. Yeah, they're everywhere up there.

   26. TTTrevor Thompson38:13

       Eating a deer a day, or whatever they do.

   27. JRJoe Rogan38:16

       Y- uh, yeah, probably one a week, for sure.

   28. TTTrevor Thompson38:18

       Oh, yeah.

   29. JRJoe Rogan38:18

       You know? That's why California-

   30. TTTrevor Thompson38:20

       (laughs)
9. 40:15 – 47:14

   Archery crash course: zero experience to bear camp success

   1. JRJoe Rogan40:15

      Yeah, they're good. Yeah. Yeah, it's, uh... And y- that was your first hunt, right? With Dudley?

   2. TTTrevor Thompson40:19

      It was, yeah. Um, that was a hilarious phone call.

   3. JRJoe Rogan40:23

      Well, you had only been doing archery for how long?

   4. TTTrevor Thompson40:26

      Uh, zero.

   5. JRJoe Rogan40:27

      (laughs)

   6. TTTrevor Thompson40:28

      I had been doing archery for a grand total of no time.

   7. JRJoe Rogan40:30

      Really?

   8. TTTrevor Thompson40:31

      Oh, yeah.

   9. JRJoe Rogan40:31

      So you learned on the fly.

   10. TTTrevor Thompson40:33

       So, um, Andy gives me a ring. And he's like, "Hey, man, somebody dropped outta this hunt. Do you wanna go?" I'm like, "Yeah. No questions asked, okay." And he goes, "All right, here's some shit you gotta do."

   11. JRJoe Rogan40:46

       (laughs)

   12. TTTrevor Thompson40:46

       He's like, "You have to book a ticket to Kansas."

   13. JRJoe Rogan40:48

       (laughs)

   14. TTTrevor Thompson40:49

       I'm like, "When?" He goes, "Next Wednesday." (laughs)

   15. JRJoe Rogan40:51

       Whoa.

   16. TTTrevor Thompson40:51

       So essentially, I, like... I think it was, like, a week or two. I flew out to meet Dud and Andy and, uh, Chad Mendes was out there.

   17. JRJoe Rogan40:58

       Oh, cool.

   18. TTTrevor Thompson40:58

       And they were doing a, a turkey hunt. And I was just there to, like, watch and observe and learn how to shoot the bow from Dud.

   19. JRJoe Rogan41:05

       So you flew out-

   20. TTTrevor Thompson41:07

       Mm-hmm.

   21. JRJoe Rogan41:07

       ... never shot a bow before.

   22. TTTrevor Thompson41:09

       Never touched one.

   23. JRJoe Rogan41:10

       Never touched a bow before.

   24. TTTrevor Thompson41:11

       Never touched one.

   25. JRJoe Rogan41:11

       You fly out. John motherfucking Dudley-

   26. TTTrevor Thompson41:13

       The Yoda.

   27. JRJoe Rogan41:14

       ... is coaching you-

   28. TTTrevor Thompson41:15

       Oh, yeah.

   29. JRJoe Rogan41:16

       ... in Kansas.

   30. TTTrevor Thompson41:16

       Yup, in a barn.
10. 47:14 – 1:20:50

    Diet, performance, stress resilience, and veteran reintegration

    1. JRJoe Rogan47:14

       You went carnivore for a while, right? You did that carnivore diet thing?

    2. TTTrevor Thompson47:17

       About two years ago.

    3. JRJoe Rogan47:19

       How long did you do it for?

    4. TTTrevor Thompson47:20

       Um...

    5. JRJoe Rogan47:20

       So you were an early adopter?

    6. TTTrevor Thompson47:21

       Almost nine weeks.

    7. JRJoe Rogan47:22

       Yeah?

    8. TTTrevor Thompson47:23

       Yeah.

    9. JRJoe Rogan47:23

       When did you... W- What, what made you bail out of it? Variety?

    10. TTTrevor Thompson47:27

        Uh, not really variety. So I started doing some, what, what is essentially middle-ish longer distances, like marathon length.

    11. JRJoe Rogan47:36

        Mm-hmm.

    12. TTTrevor Thompson47:36

        And, uh, I was starting to come back into doing strength stuff, like a lot of deadlifting and some power activities.

    13. JRJoe Rogan47:44

        Mm-hmm.

    14. TTTrevor Thompson47:45

        And I just really... I wasn't feeling all there. Like, I felt like I could get almost to fifth gear-

    15. JRJoe Rogan47:52

        Mm-hmm.

    16. TTTrevor Thompson47:52

        ... but it just wasn't in it.

    17. JRJoe Rogan47:53

        (clicks tongue) Right. Like you needed carbs?

    18. TTTrevor Thompson47:55

        Yeah.

    19. JRJoe Rogan47:55

        Yeah.

    20. TTTrevor Thompson47:55

        Like a little. And I'm talking, like-

    21. JRJoe Rogan47:57

        Apples or something?

    22. TTTrevor Thompson47:58

        Yeah.

    23. JRJoe Rogan47:58

        Yeah.

    24. TTTrevor Thompson47:58

        So I essentially started putting a little bit of carbs in, and I still only eat, like, maybe 100 grams of carbs a day.

    25. JRJoe Rogan48:03

        Hmm.

    26. TTTrevor Thompson48:04

        Which is on the bottom end of very little.

    27. JRJoe Rogan48:07

        And what kind of carbs are you taking in-

    28. TTTrevor Thompson48:08

        Uh-

    29. JRJoe Rogan48:08

        ... for the most part?

    30. TTTrevor Thompson48:09

        So when I'm at home eating how I wanna eat, it's mostly white rice.

Episode duration: 2:49:04