Joe Rogan Experience #1449 Bryan Callen

#1449. Bryan Callen is an actor and stand-up comedian, and together with Brendan Schaub he also hosts “The Fighter & The Kid” podcast. @TheFighterAndTheKid

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0:01 – 3:39
Range day banter: “tactical shooter,” tiny targets, and Steven Seagal movie lore
1. JRJoe Rogan
  Yeehaw!
2. BCBryan Callen
  Here we are. My, my, my-
3. JRJoe Rogan
  Are you a shooter?
4. BCBryan Callen
  Well, dude, my ears are, are covered for the second time today. I'm just gonna say that.
5. JRJoe Rogan
  Yeah.
6. BCBryan Callen
  And I'm a, I'm a... Ask me like you... Ask me if... What'd you-
7. JRJoe Rogan
  Are you a shooter?
8. BCBryan Callen
  That's funny. I'm a tactical-
9. JRJoe Rogan
  Are you an operator or something?
10. BCBryan Callen
  I'm a tactical shooter, bro. I'm a tactical shooter.
11. JRJoe Rogan
  So you ever done... We did, we went to Tarrant Tactical today and, and, uh-
12. BCBryan Callen
  Yeah.
13. JRJoe Rogan
  ... Brian Cowan learned the ins and outs.
14. BCBryan Callen
  Learned how to lean forward.
15. JRJoe Rogan
  Yeah.
16. BCBryan Callen
  Had some Navy SEAL instruction as well.
17. JRJoe Rogan
  Yeah. How to hold the pistol correctly.
18. BCBryan Callen
  By Bubba Corraler. Yeah.
19. JRJoe Rogan
  How'd you feel?
20. BCBryan Callen
  I love it.
21. JRJoe Rogan
  Fun, right?
22. BCBryan Callen
  I've been doing it in my head forever.
23. JRJoe Rogan
  Oh, in your head?
24. BCBryan Callen
  Yeah.
25. JRJoe Rogan
  That doesn't really work, does it?
26. BCBryan Callen
  I've rehearsed, I've rehearsed killing a gang many times.
27. JRJoe Rogan
  Pfft. A whole gang?
28. BCBryan Callen
  Being surrounded. Sure. Lean in, kikiki. And I go like this.
29. JRJoe Rogan
  Why don't you shoot them in the knee and rehabilitate them?
30. BCBryan Callen
  Oh, that's such a good idea. I... Because they don't have knee targets. If they had just a bunch of knees-
3:39 – 6:48
Horse fantasies to real wilderness inspiration: Dick Proenneke and living off-grid
1. JRJoe Rogan
  You should have, uh... Do, do you know about this guy, his name is Dick Proenneke? And, uh, he was a guy who lived in Alaska by himself in a cabin that he built for decades.
2. BCBryan Callen
  Yeah.
3. JRJoe Rogan
  And he moved out there when he's 50 years old. He got tired of life...
4. BCBryan Callen
  Yeah.
5. JRJoe Rogan
  ... and just the, the way everything was, the fast pace of modern life. So this guy decided... This guy, amazing videos on YouTube.
6. BCBryan Callen
  Hmm.
7. JRJoe Rogan
  This guy built his own house out there in Alaska. Uh, fashioned it out of logs.
8. BCBryan Callen
  Wow.
9. JRJoe Rogan
  There's like a video of him doing the whole thing, filmed everything.
10. BCBryan Callen
  Wow.
11. JRJoe Rogan
  Filmed all of his interactions with animals.
12. BCBryan Callen
  Hmm.
13. JRJoe Rogan
  Birds would come and land on his hand and he would feed them.
14. BCBryan Callen
  Really?
15. JRJoe Rogan
  Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah.
16. BCBryan Callen
  Wow.
17. JRJoe Rogan
  He was you.
18. BCBryan Callen
  Yeah.
19. JRJoe Rogan
  He literally is you.
20. BCBryan Callen
  Splitting wood.
21. JRJoe Rogan
  Stoic.
22. BCBryan Callen
  Yeah.
23. JRJoe Rogan
  By himself and wrote.
24. BCBryan Callen
  You know me. Stoic and real solitary.
25. JRJoe Rogan
  Oh, yeah. And s- you know, real c- measured with his words.
26. BCBryan Callen
  Of course. (laughs)
27. JRJoe Rogan
  And, uh, it's everything you want to be.
28. BCBryan Callen
  (laughs)
29. JRJoe Rogan
  And he would sit, and every night, he would write. And he would write about his experiences and, and the, the deep satisfaction that he got off of living that kind of a life.
30. BCBryan Callen
  Right.
6:48 – 8:41
Prepper cabin daydreams: gardens, chickens, anti-aging labs, and “splitting wood shirtless”
1. BCBryan Callen
  'Cause I got ... This corona thing caught me with my pants down.
2. JRJoe Rogan
  Yeah.
3. BCBryan Callen
  I want... Here's what I want. I want a... I want a substantial cabin made of thick logs or stone, and then I want it near a lake or a water source, maybe preferably a, a well-
4. JRJoe Rogan
  Yeah, there's-
5. BCBryan Callen
  ... that I can irrigate my own crops.
6. JRJoe Rogan
  You gonna have crops?
7. BCBryan Callen
  I'm gonna have chicken.
8. JRJoe Rogan
  Or a garden?
9. BCBryan Callen
  I need chickens.
10. JRJoe Rogan
  You really only need a garden. You don't need crops.
11. BCBryan Callen
  I, I, I ... Okay.
12. JRJoe Rogan
  It's just you.
13. BCBryan Callen
  I need a garden.
14. JRJoe Rogan
  Is it just you?
15. BCBryan Callen
  Yes. Well, it might be me and my, my ... several, several of my-
16. JRJoe Rogan
  Lady friends?
17. BCBryan Callen
  My lady friends, because I'm gonna start my own colony so I have to breed.
18. JRJoe Rogan
  Hmm.
19. BCBryan Callen
  You understand?
20. JRJoe Rogan
  Okay.
21. BCBryan Callen
  And I need, I need a lot of hair and, uh, beard dye 'cause I wanna stay looking young.
22. JRJoe Rogan
  What if they come up with something that reverses you in age?
23. BCBryan Callen
  Now you're talking my language.
24. JRJoe Rogan
  How old would you like to go back to?
25. BCBryan Callen
  David Sinclair will actually have a cabin on the side.
26. JRJoe Rogan
  (laughs) He'd be right next to you doing experiments.
27. BCBryan Callen
  Yeah. I'm gonna have his fucking lab and I'm gonna be his guinea pig.
28. JRJoe Rogan
  Yeah, you'd be the guy.
29. BCBryan Callen
  Yeah. David, come out. Come on out. And I'll just entice him-
30. JRJoe Rogan
  He'd come ... Just hang out.
8:41 – 11:52
Working dogs, police K9 damage, and predator fights: mountain lions vs wolves
1. BCBryan Callen
  Yeah. Yeah. They don't use ... The cops, I heard, don't use mastiffs or even Rottweilers-
2. JRJoe Rogan
  Yeah.
3. BCBryan Callen
  ... 'cause they do too much damage.
4. JRJoe Rogan
  They don't let go.
5. BCBryan Callen
  Yeah.
6. JRJoe Rogan
  They don't like to let go.
7. BCBryan Callen
  Yeah. Then you got a major lawsuit on your hands.
8. JRJoe Rogan
  Yes.
9. BCBryan Callen
  You can't have something bite your fucking hand off.
10. JRJoe Rogan
  Well, I was watching a fucking video of a guy in San Diego who got arrested by these cops, and the cops couldn't get the German shepherd off his arm.
11. BCBryan Callen
  (exhales)
12. JRJoe Rogan
  The German shepherd's clamped on this guy's forearm and this guy's screaming-
13. BCBryan Callen
  Ugh.
14. JRJoe Rogan
  ... and they're pulling on the dog and the dog's pulling on the meat of his arm.
15. BCBryan Callen
  You gotta choke the dog. You don't pull on the dog.
16. JRJoe Rogan
  Bro, they weren't interested in choking the dog. Apparently, they thought this guy was a bad person-
17. BCBryan Callen
  Oh.
18. JRJoe Rogan
  ... and they were letting this dog chew this guy's arm up. And you get permanent nerve damage.
19. BCBryan Callen
  Oh, yeah.
20. JRJoe Rogan
  I mean, it's just-
21. BCBryan Callen
  Yeah.
22. JRJoe Rogan
  ... devastating to the tissue in your forearm.
23. BCBryan Callen
  I've seen video of it where I said ...
24. JRJoe Rogan
  Oh.
25. BCBryan Callen
  ... I said to the cop who showed it to me, I said, "Why didn't that guy," who's this giant AWOL, he went AWOL, just giant, uh ... He used to be a special forces guy and he just went crazy. And they let that dog loose on ... 'Cause they had two cops that he was fighting off and they let this, this wolf, this fucking wolf loose-
26. JRJoe Rogan
  Ugh.
27. BCBryan Callen
  ... and grabbed the dude on the top of his arm. He had huge arms, like Brennan Schaub, like big arms.
28. JRJoe Rogan
  (groans)
29. BCBryan Callen
  Grabbed, grabbed the guy and the guy just ... I ... In the middle of his craze, he looked at the dog and then just went ... He froze and went down. And I said, "Why isn't he punching?" And he goes, "Because you shut down." Because when he bit that arm, that arm went numb. You can't use that arm. That's a fucking wolf.
30. JRJoe Rogan
  Well, it's not about the pain.
11:52 – 14:46
Wildlife management debates: Cecil the lion, elephant culls, and “birth control for deer”
1. JRJoe Rogan
  Well, that was an issue after the dentist-
2. BCBryan Callen
  Mm-hmm.
3. JRJoe Rogan
  The dentist shot that lion with a name.
4. BCBryan Callen
  Yeah.
5. JRJoe Rogan
  Remember that lion with a name?
6. BCBryan Callen
  Cecil.
7. JRJoe Rogan
  Cecil. And then, um, do you know that they were worried that Cecil's brother Jericho was killed? But no worries, it was a lion that didn't have a name. So ...
8. BCBryan Callen
  (sighs) Oh, fuck.
9. JRJoe Rogan
  ... were so close. Literally, I read an article that were being serious about that.
10. BCBryan Callen
  (laughs) So was I.
11. JRJoe Rogan
  They were being serious. There was a real concern that Cecil's brother, Jericho, had also been killed-
12. BCBryan Callen
  (laughs)
13. JRJoe Rogan
  ... but turned out not to be true. Like-
14. BCBryan Callen
  Try to be nuts.
15. JRJoe Rogan
  ... like, as if it's the real Lion King.
16. BCBryan Callen
  (laughs)
17. JRJoe Rogan
  Anyway, when (laughs) -
18. BCBryan Callen
  (laughs)
19. JRJoe Rogan
  ... when they killed that lion, uh, when that dentist killed that lion, well they then, after that, had, uh, this, this thing, this w- international outcry where n- nobody wanted to go there and hunt lions, 'cause they didn't want to be the next guy that gets targeted like that dentist. So because of that, they had to slaughter a large number of lions.
20. BCBryan Callen
  I'm sure.
21. JRJoe Rogan
  Just find out how they-
22. BCBryan Callen
  All the dudes-
23. JRJoe Rogan
  ... The posts-
24. BCBryan Callen
  ... people who don't have any idea what, what it is to sustain-
25. JRJoe Rogan
  I'm just, just, the number was crazy. It was something like, it'd be, I don't remember if it was 50 or 500.
26. BCBryan Callen
  Yeah.
27. JRJoe Rogan
  But it was like, they had to kill them, and instead of getting $50,000 per lion, like they're accustomed to getting when people-
28. BCBryan Callen
  Yeah.
29. JRJoe Rogan
  ... 'cause they have all these lions, the lions had decimated the ungulate population.
30. BCBryan Callen
  Of course.
14:46 – 19:06
Tiger King, anti-aging IVs, and Rogan’s old tiger bits: comedy craft and “becoming the thing”
1. BCBryan Callen
  Well, w- after watching Tiger King, what is your take on-
2. JRJoe Rogan
  (laughs)
3. BCBryan Callen
  ... keeping, uh-
4. JRJoe Rogan
  (laughs)
5. BCBryan Callen
  ... tigers as pets?
6. JRJoe Rogan
  It's ridiculous. First of all, I only watched one half of one episode. I had to pause.
7. BCBryan Callen
  Oh.
8. JRJoe Rogan
  I had to pause. Uh, Jamie and I were getting NAD, uh, IV drips.
9. BCBryan Callen
  Oh.
10. JRJoe Rogan
  Which is pretty fucking amazing.
11. BCBryan Callen
  What is NAD?
12. JRJoe Rogan
  Uh, that's the stuff that David Sinclair was talking about.
13. BCBryan Callen
  Well, let's get-
14. JRJoe Rogan
  The anti-aging.
15. BCBryan Callen
  Oh, Bri on the, on-
16. JRJoe Rogan
  Yeah.
17. BCBryan Callen
  ... on the NAD train.
18. JRJoe Rogan
  Oh, Bri might be a little cheap. It's expensive.
19. BCBryan Callen
  Oh, yeah?
20. JRJoe Rogan
  Yeah, it costs, it costs a pretty penny.
21. BCBryan Callen
  I wanna live forever.
22. JRJoe Rogan
  Okay, well, we'll-
23. BCBryan Callen
  What, what did it-
24. JRJoe Rogan
  We'll talk afterwards.
25. BCBryan Callen
  Okay.
26. JRJoe Rogan
  I don't know. I've done two, and I feel pretty good. You feel any different, Jamie?
27. GFGuest (unidentified, likely in-studio friend/producer)
  Yeah, no, I, I can probably say I feel pretty good.
28. JRJoe Rogan
  Yeah.
29. GFGuest (unidentified, likely in-studio friend/producer)
  Especially-
30. JRJoe Rogan
  Feel pretty good.
19:06 – 21:35
Acting psychology and “you can tell politics by shoes”: footwear, identity, and Schaub jokes
1. BCBryan Callen
  Jeffrey Tambor, who's won a bunch of Emmys for, you know, Transparent and all that, he said that he, for him, it was about shoes. He'd have to figure out what kind of shoes. Like, he'd have to feel it first in his feet, which makes sense.
2. JRJoe Rogan
  Oh, wow.
3. BCBryan Callen
  Like, when you wear sneakers and, or you wear, uh, leather-soled shoes, you feel different. You're not as secure in leather-soled shoes. You-
4. JRJoe Rogan
  Oh, yeah.
5. BCBryan Callen
  You automatically become more formal when your toes are pushed together, you know, when you're constrained like that.
6. JRJoe Rogan
  (laughs)
7. BCBryan Callen
  It's a weird thing to think, but it, it does change you.
8. JRJoe Rogan
  Yeah, you can't even move good in-
9. BCBryan Callen
  No.
10. JRJoe Rogan
  ... leather-soled, soled shoes. They're slippery.
11. BCBryan Callen
  Correct. So if you, that's why, if you see people... I can tell a lot about somebody by their footwear.
12. JRJoe Rogan
  Hmm.
13. BCBryan Callen
  If they're wearing sandals-
14. JRJoe Rogan
  We-
15. BCBryan Callen
  ... typically, I can tell you what their political bent is.
16. JRJoe Rogan
  (clears throat) What about me?
17. BCBryan Callen
  Those are, those are, those are dad sneakers, I don't give a fuck, game over, and I do what I want, Joe Rogan shoes.
18. JRJoe Rogan
  You don't know Chuck's shit.
19. BCBryan Callen
  No, I like them.
20. JRJoe Rogan
  These are trail runners.
21. BCBryan Callen
  I know what they are.
22. JRJoe Rogan
  What are they?
23. BCBryan Callen
  They're trail runners.
24. JRJoe Rogan
  These are Salomons.
25. BCBryan Callen
  They're excellent shoes. I-
26. JRJoe Rogan
  SpeedCross.
27. BCBryan Callen
  I know all about them 'cause I'm a barber for-
28. JRJoe Rogan
  You run hills with these. See that?
29. BCBryan Callen
  ... when we're, when we were gonna go hunting with Ranella, I know all about those shoes.
30. JRJoe Rogan
  See traction? They're awesome. It says Tread.
21:35 – 31:50
Suppressors, loud rifles, archery triggers, and why crossbows are “a shitty gun”
1. BCBryan Callen
  Andy Stumpf, Andy Stumpf, I did his, uh, podcast-
2. JRJoe Rogan
  (laughs)
3. BCBryan Callen
  ... and he had me... He wanted to see what kind of a tactical asshole I am. (laughs)
4. JRJoe Rogan
  (laughs)
5. BCBryan Callen
  And he had me watch vid, vid, you know, film-
6. JRJoe Rogan
  Oh, wearing a shirt.
7. BCBryan Callen
  Oh, yeah.
8. JRJoe Rogan
  Cleared Hot.
9. BCBryan Callen
  Cleared Hot. Great, great podcast.
10. JRJoe Rogan
  He was on last week. I love him.
11. BCBryan Callen
  The best, the best. And, um, he, he had me, like, look at, like, different movie scenes and break down what was wrong. I was wrong all... (laughs) I was completely wrong about everything. I thought, I thought that when you shot a gun with a suppressor, it was like, "Pff, pff."
12. JRJoe Rogan
  No, it's pretty, pretty loud, pretty loud.
13. BCBryan Callen
  Yeah.
14. JRJoe Rogan
  You've never shot a gun with a suppressor?
15. BCBryan Callen
  I have, actually, uh, in Utah, but-
16. JRJoe Rogan
  It's loud.
17. BCBryan Callen
  I was wearing earphones, ear, ear...
18. JRJoe Rogan
  Yeah.
19. BCBryan Callen
  So I couldn't, you know?
20. JRJoe Rogan
  But it's nothing like a, like a rifle.
21. BCBryan Callen
  No.
22. JRJoe Rogan
  Like, when we were hunting in, um, Prince of Wales, I had that gun with the muzzle break.
23. BCBryan Callen
  (laughs) So loud. Oh, my God.
24. JRJoe Rogan
  Yeah, it's a seven millimeter Remington Ultramag. It's a very loud gun.
25. BCBryan Callen
  Dude, that's so loud outside, it can hurt your ear. They say if you-
26. JRJoe Rogan
  Mm-hmm.
27. BCBryan Callen
  They say if you're too close to that, it, you can di- damage your ears permanently.
28. JRJoe Rogan
  100%. Yeah.
29. BCBryan Callen
  Yeah.
30. JRJoe Rogan
  My, one of my friends, um, there was a guy who, uh, shot near him, shot too close to his ear. So, he was a, he's a guide. And this guy apparently, like, went to swing, like the, the animal was close by, like he's here, the animal's close by, or something, something happened, where it shot really close to his head and blew his ears out.
31:50 – 37:46
Cars as tech black boxes: Porsche engine visibility, Tesla speed, and buying the ‘right’ vehicle
1. JRJoe Rogan
  You ever see what it looks like when they open up a brand new nine- like, 992, uh, 2020 Porsche?
2. BCBryan Callen
  No.
3. JRJoe Rogan
  The hood? Pull up, opening up the hood on a 2020 Porsche. It's the most ridiculous thing ever.
4. BCBryan Callen
  Really?
5. JRJoe Rogan
  E- you have no idea what anything is.
6. BCBryan Callen
  God.
7. JRJoe Rogan
  You have no, no-
8. BCBryan Callen
  Even someone like you who knows a lot about cars?
9. JRJoe Rogan
  I have no idea what's in there.
10. BCBryan Callen
  (laughs)
11. JRJoe Rogan
  I have no idea.
12. BCBryan Callen
  Technology. (laughs)
13. JRJoe Rogan
  You can't even see anything. You get, you get this much of a view-
14. BCBryan Callen
  (laughs) What?
15. JRJoe Rogan
  ... to the engine. Oh, yeah. The, the view into, when you open up the back, because it's a rear engine car. A Porsche is most, probably one of the most sophisticated, technologically advanced cars ever built, right? Because they've been refining the design since the 1960s. Pop up the rear trunk and look inside at the engine. Or it's not a trunk, it's the hood. Whatever. Look inside at the engine. You don't know what the fuck that is. It's two fans. You see two fans.
16. BCBryan Callen
  Jesus.
17. JRJoe Rogan
  That's what you see. You see two fans.
18. BCBryan Callen
  Jesus.
19. JRJoe Rogan
  Yeah. What, what's, what's going on there? I don't know. I better take it to a place with computers to fucking get it-
20. BCBryan Callen
  Well, you need software, right?
21. JRJoe Rogan
  Yeah. Yeah.
22. BCBryan Callen
  You need software to tune it up and all that shit.
23. JRJoe Rogan
  Yeah. You have no idea. You have to l- it's, literally, you have to, they have to plug a machine into it with, which analyzes the system.
24. BCBryan Callen
  God damn.
25. JRJoe Rogan
  And then the machine's going, "Hey, well, fucking, this is fucked and that's fucked and this is falling apart."
26. BCBryan Callen
  When are they gonna do that with-
27. JRJoe Rogan
  People.
28. BCBryan Callen
  ... yeah.
29. JRJoe Rogan
  Soon.
30. BCBryan Callen
  Really?
37:46 – 51:11
Overlanding and escape planning: trucks, vans, buses, and buying land with water
1. BCBryan Callen
  Yeah, but you know, I need something for the next pandemic.
2. JRJoe Rogan
  It drives so well.
3. BCBryan Callen
  I need something for the next pandemic. I need something to get... I, I gotta... I wanna get an Airstream.
4. JRJoe Rogan
  You want a Land Cruiser like mine?
5. BCBryan Callen
  Yeah.
6. JRJoe Rogan
  That's it. That...
7. BCBryan Callen
  But I need, I need something I can kinda live in too. I'm gonna get a gol- an Airstream.
8. JRJoe Rogan
  There. Living. You want something you can get away from everybody in too.
9. BCBryan Callen
  That's right.
10. JRJoe Rogan
  You can't get away in an Airstream. You gotta leave that thing there and then it becomes a liability.
11. BCBryan Callen
  That's true.
12. JRJoe Rogan
  You want something you can overland in, son.
13. BCBryan Callen
  Overland?
14. JRJoe Rogan
  Overland in.
15. BCBryan Callen
  That's a good idea.
16. JRJoe Rogan
  It's a whole thing they do.
17. BCBryan Callen
  I like the way that sounds.
18. JRJoe Rogan
  It's just overlanders. My, uh, Land Cruiser that was built by Icon, the rear seat comes out. So the rear seat has these p- uh, these... They made it for me. So there's this... You just pull these levers, click, click. Pull the rear seat out and you can sleep in that motherfucker if you had to.
19. BCBryan Callen
  Yeah. Expensive.
20. JRJoe Rogan
  It costs money.
21. BCBryan Callen
  Yeah.
22. JRJoe Rogan
  Things cost money.
23. BCBryan Callen
  That's fine.
24. JRJoe Rogan
  You wanna hire artisans and craftsmen and-
25. BCBryan Callen
  Yeah.
26. JRJoe Rogan
  ... and geniuses to design things-
27. BCBryan Callen
  Yeah.
28. JRJoe Rogan
  ... and build things for you? It costs money.
29. BCBryan Callen
  Maybe just regular-
30. JRJoe Rogan
  You wanna get paid too, right?
51:11 – 1:00:26
Colorado dreams and predator politics: Evergreen, altitude realities, and wolves as a ‘balance’ fight
1. JRJoe Rogan
  (clicks tongue) These idiots are thinking about moving, uh, wolves into Colorado. They're talking about doing that.
2. BCBryan Callen
  That's not a bad idea, right?
3. JRJoe Rogan
  Mm-mm.
4. BCBryan Callen
  Didn't- didn't, uh, moving wolves into Yellowstone, uh, increase the population of everything?
5. JRJoe Rogan
  (clicks tongue) No. No, it did not.
6. BCBryan Callen
  Is that a lie?
7. JRJoe Rogan
  No. Yes, it is.
8. BCBryan Callen
  It is. I watched that video.
9. JRJoe Rogan
  Yes, yes. Oh yeah, the- the, "Wolves changed rivers"?
10. BCBryan Callen
  Yes.
11. JRJoe Rogan
  Yeah. A lot of other factors-
12. BCBryan Callen
  Okay.
13. JRJoe Rogan
  ... that that guy didn't take into con- consideration in terms of m- moving rivers. One of the things was beavers. They imported beavers-
14. BCBryan Callen
  Oh.
15. JRJoe Rogan
  ... into, uh, Yellowstone. There's a, many, many factors.
16. BCBryan Callen
  Okay.
17. JRJoe Rogan
  But they did reduce the ungulate population, which you could say was out of proportion.
18. BCBryan Callen
  What's an ungulate?
19. JRJoe Rogan
  Ungulate is cows, elk, you know, uh-
20. BCBryan Callen
  The ungulate.
21. JRJoe Rogan
  Cows. Yeah.
22. BCBryan Callen
  Yeah.
23. JRJoe Rogan
  Uh, uh, ruminants, you know, animals-
24. BCBryan Callen
  Ruminants, ruminants.
25. JRJoe Rogan
  Ruminants. Yeah, animals that eat grass.
26. BCBryan Callen
  Ruminants, ruminants.
27. JRJoe Rogan
  What- whatever it is.
28. BCBryan Callen
  I like saying ruminant.
29. JRJoe Rogan
  Yeah. The- the animals that you hunt, the deer and elk.
30. BCBryan Callen
  Yeah.
1:00:26 – 1:15:19
From sex stores to porn taboo: why it’s judged yet universal, and the disease angle
1. JRJoe Rogan
  "Well, eeh, eeh, eeh." Well, it used to be DVDs. I remember it used to be, like... You remember when peos- people used to buy porn DVDs? There was a day... You fucking kids today are so spoiled.
2. BCBryan Callen
  And VHS porn.
3. JRJoe Rogan
  Oh, yeah. Oh, I remember that.
4. BCBryan Callen
  That was when I used to watch porn. You know, I, I never... And this is all bullshit aside. And I'm, not because I'm a good boy. I never watched porn... I never ever watched porn because it doesn't do a thing for me.
5. JRJoe Rogan
  Really?
6. BCBryan Callen
  I, I don't know what it is. I just... No, I swear to God.
7. JRJoe Rogan
  'Cause you're tired from fucking all the time.
8. BCBryan Callen
  I thought about... I thought about that the other day. I was like, "I haven't watched porn in-"
9. JRJoe Rogan
  Three days? (laughs)
10. BCBryan Callen
  ... since I was 52. Uh-
11. JRJoe Rogan
  (laughs)
12. BCBryan Callen
  ... I, I haven't watched porn in so many years.
13. JRJoe Rogan
  Because you're tired from all your fucking.
14. BCBryan Callen
  Yeah, all my banging.
15. JRJoe Rogan
  Because you're fucking.
16. BCBryan Callen
  'Cause I fuck. 'Cause I fuck.
17. JRJoe Rogan
  Porn is a, an oddly polarizing subject because every... It's a wei- it's one of the weirdest things ever, if you really stop and think about it, because mostly everyone who's healthy enjoys sex, whether it's straight sex or gay sex or what kind of sex you like. If you're healthy and you're young, even if you're not young, if you're healthy, your body works well-
18. BCBryan Callen
  Yeah.
19. JRJoe Rogan
  ... you like sex. But yet filming it-
20. BCBryan Callen
  Yeah.
21. JRJoe Rogan
  ... is so taboo.
22. BCBryan Callen
  I know. I think it's because-
23. JRJoe Rogan
  So taboo.
24. BCBryan Callen
  I- i- it is taboo, and I've thought a lot about that. It's... I think it's because we inherently know typically that the person doing it-... putting themselves on camera, it is a form of suicide. And, and, and, and what I mean by that-
25. JRJoe Rogan
  Wow.
26. BCBryan Callen
  ... is it's a form of, it's a way of ensuring that you keep yourself out of certain segments of society, right?
27. JRJoe Rogan
  Mm-hmm.
28. BCBryan Callen
  And maybe it's residue from when, when sex was downright dangerous, pregnancy, disease that we didn't have cures for. I think sex had to have a lot of taboos.

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