Joe Rogan Experience #1450 - Brian Redban

Joe Rogan 0:01 Yee-haw! How you hanging in there, fella?

Brian Redban 0:05 Great, man.

Joe Rogan 0:06 I think these things are gonna annoy a lot of people.

Brian Redban 0:09 (laughs)

Joe Rogan 0:10 If you're listening, we're wearing aluminum foil. (laughs)

Brian Redban 0:14 (laughs)

Joe Rogan 0:14 We're let- we're wearing spacesuits.

Brian Redban 0:16 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 0:16 God, they're so crunchy.

Brian Redban 0:17 There's not many left for me to get. This is the-

Joe Rogan 0:20 This is dope.

Brian Redban 0:20 Now I'm getting into the- Yeah, the real-

Joe Rogan 0:21 This is my favorite one.

Brian Redban 0:22 (laughs)

Joe Rogan 0:23 I like the orange one for some strange reason.

Brian Redban 0:25 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 0:25 The white one just seems like I'm a cleanup person.

Brian Redban 0:27 (laughs) Yeah.

Joe Rogan 0:27 You know? Like you're doing some NASA cleanup, like there's alien bodies you're trying to get rid of. But this feels like we're about to do something special.

Brian Redban 0:35 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 0:35 About ... We're protected.

Brian Redban 0:36 Yeah. I just hope it doesn't start making us sweat and we lose like 100 pounds. Well, I mean-

Joe Rogan 0:40 This is the same shit that's on the outside of the lunar module that, that land... You know what I mean? That cheap-looking aluminum foil.

Brian Redban 0:48 Oh, yeah. (laughs)

Joe Rogan 0:49 It looks like it was stuck on there with gum.

Jamie Vernon 0:50 Heat shield?

Joe Rogan 0:51 Yeah, the heat shield.

Jamie Vernon 0:52 Is that what they call it, heat shield?

Brian Redban 0:52 Mm-hmm.

Joe Rogan 0:53 Whatever it is.

Jamie Vernon 0:53 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 0:54 Whatever that fucking fake stuff is.

Brian Redban 0:56 Or the Alien.

Joe Rogan 0:57 On the-

Brian Redban 0:57 You ever see the Alien, where he had to put that big sheet that was made out of this material at the very end? You ever see that movie?

Joe Rogan 1:03 Was it the-

Brian Redban 1:03 The-

Joe Rogan 1:03 Predator or Alien?

Brian Redban 1:04 No, no, the Alien ... The one with Matt Damon, and he's like lost in space.

Jamie Vernon 1:09 Martian.

Brian Redban 1:10 The Martian.

Joe Rogan 1:10 Oh, the Martian.

Brian Redban 1:10 The Martian.

Joe Rogan 1:10 (laughs)

Jamie Vernon 1:11 Jesus.

Joe Rogan 1:11 Oh yeah, these are ... Well, they have these for people that get like lost hiking. Like, they're blankets. They'll keep you alive. You won't be cozy, but they'll keep you alive. They're like these real thin aluminum foil-looking blankets.

Brian Redban 1:24 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 1:24 I guess they just retain heat pretty good.

Brian Redban 1:26 Right.

Joe Rogan 1:26 Pretty good. You know, like, you're not getting a good night's sleep, but you might stay alive.

Brian Redban 1:31 Yeah. How are you holding up?

Joe Rogan 1:33 I'm all right.

Brian Redban 1:33 Yeah?

Joe Rogan 1:34 Yeah. You know, um ... Look, there's people that got it rough. The people that got it rough are, number one, medical workers. Anybody, you know ... Much love to anybody that's working in hospitals right now. Doctors, nurses, everybody. Interns, everybody. Everybody. People working the desk, goddamn, you guys have it rough. You know, those are the people number one. Number two, ho- any- anybody in the hospitality industry. People serving food, uh, restaurants, bars-

Brian Redban 2:06 Grocery store workers.

Joe Rogan 2:06 Fuck.

Brian Redban 2:07 Jesus.

Joe Rogan 2:07 Yeah, they have it rough, but they have jobs. You know, it's rough, but they- their jobs are still open. The, the thing that drives me crazy is there's so many restaurants where these people, you know, employed 50, 60 people, and, you know, restaurants are hard. It's hard to stay open when things are great. You know, restaurants are a fucking ... Th- but the ... What is the- it's one of the number one businesses that fails. Like, the ... What is the ... See if you can find the statistic, but it's something crazy like 70% of all restaurants fail within the first year.

Brian Redban 2:39 Mm-hmm.

Joe Rogan 2:39 'Cause it's fu- ho- Imagine running a restaurant?

Brian Redban 2:42 Especially, what ki- like a chicken restaurant? Like, everyone's has chicken restaurants.

Joe Rogan 2:45 Do you remember that great restaurant that was right next to the Icehouse? We used to go there all the time.

Brian Redban 2:49 Yeah, it's gone now.

Joe Rogan 2:50 God, it was good.

Brian Redban 2:51 They got foie gras there.

Joe Rogan 2:52 Oh, it was good.

Brian Redban 2:53 And the place that just replaced it just closed down.

Joe Rogan 2:55 Look at this. "They have a high failure rate, but knowing why can help the prospective owners f- uh ... Around 60% of new restaurants fail within the first year, and nearly 80% shutter before their fifth anniversary." Wow, 80% in five years.

Brian Redban 3:10 Hmm.

Joe Rogan 3:10 So, if you get a restaurant like Dan Tana's that's been open since like the '60s or something. Like, when was ... Did you ever eat at Dan Tana's, Jamie?

Jamie Vernon 3:18 No, I've never-

Brian Redban 3:19 Where is that?

Joe Rogan 3:19 Have you ever eaten there? You don't know where Dan Tana's is?

Brian Redban 3:21 No.

Joe Rogan 3:21 Oh my God, dude. We need to do a dinner at Dan Tana's.

Jamie Vernon 3:24 Man.

Brian Redban 3:24 Anytime.

Joe Rogan 3:24 A post-store dinner at Dan Tana's because Dan Tana's is open, the kitchen's open till like midnight. It's phenomenal. Some of the best Italian food in all of LA.

Brian Redban 3:33 Wow.

Joe Rogan 3:33 And it's on Santa Monica Boulevard, like on the border of Boystown.

Brian Redban 3:37 Wow.

Jamie Vernon 3:38 It's next to the Troubadour, right?

Joe Rogan 3:39 Hey. Yeah, the Troubadour where I saw, uh, I saw Everlast recently and Sturgill.

Brian Redban 3:45 Oh.

Joe Rogan 3:45 Sturgill Simpson played the Troubadour too. Troubadour's dope.

Brian Redban 3:47 I hope Everlast is doing okay with his daughter.

Joe Rogan 3:49 He's-

Brian Redban 3:50 His daughter has, you know-

Joe Rogan 3:51 He's being real smart and staying the fuck away from everybody, and they're holed up and everybody's healthy li- last I spoke to him. Yeah, there it is, Dan-

Brian Redban 3:59 Oh.

Joe Rogan 3:59 ... Tana's. Bro, that place is the shit. They have phenomenal pasta. They have excellent steaks. It's a really good old school restaurant that you go in there like it looks they haven't done shit to that place since 1970. Everything's perfect. Like that, that's what it looks like inside.

Brian Redban 4:16 I have seen the place.

Joe Rogan 4:17 Oh, it's amazing.

Brian Redban 4:18 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 4:18 Dude, it's so good. It's so good.

Brian Redban 4:21 I love that old school Italian look, you know-

Joe Rogan 4:23 Yeah.

Brian Redban 4:23 ... with like the red tablecloth and the-

Joe Rogan 4:24 I ate there with, uh, Suzanne. Suzanne and I went to see, uh, Sturgill, and then afterwards we ate at Dan Tana's. I was like, "Dude, I feel like we're real Hollywood."

Brian Redban 4:34 (laughs)

Jamie Vernon 4:35 (laughs)

Joe Rogan 4:35 She got holed u- you know, some- Suzanne from Honey, Honey?

Brian Redban 4:38 Mm-hmm.

Joe Rogan 4:38 She got holed up in North Carolina.

Brian Redban 4:40 Oh, gosh.

Joe Rogan 4:41 Yeah, you know, her fo- her folks are down there, so she went down there and ... She's holed up. I know so many people are holed u- um, Nick Swardson, he's holed up in, uh, Michigan, you know, or Minnesota for- rather, where he's from. You know, one of them m- words.

Brian Redban 4:54 Right.

Jamie Vernon 4:55 South side, I think.

Brian Redban 4:56 Yeah, my friend David, uh, from-

Joe Rogan 4:58 Yeah, he's from Minnesota.

Brian Redban 4:58 ... Kill Tony. He was stuck in, in New York-

Joe Rogan 5:01 Mm-hmm.

Brian Redban 5:01 ... and he got out like the day before they just banned like all travel out of New York.

Joe Rogan 5:05 (sighs)

Brian Redban 5:05 But now, no hanging out with David. (laughs)

Joe Rogan 5:07 For a little bit.

Brian Redban 5:07 Yeah, right?

Joe Rogan 5:08 Give him 14 days. "Hey, man, can I take your temperature?"

Brian Redban 5:11 (laughs)

Jamie Vernon 5:12 (laughs)

Joe Rogan 5:12 Jamie's got somebody in his building.

Jamie Vernon 5:13 Mm-hmm. Yep, got an email yesterday. I was gonna say-

Joe Rogan 5:15 Mm-hmm.

Jamie Vernon 5:15 ... they just have a ... Checkpoints, they're showing videos of in Florida blockin' people coming in from like New York.

Brian Redban 5:22 Yeah.

Jamie Vernon 5:22 So many people flew down there to bail, and they brought that shit down there.

Joe Rogan 5:25 Yeah, there was ... I reading an article, I think it was in the Atlantic, about people who are on the cape, like Cape Cod and Boston, and they're mad that, uh, people who own summer houses out there are going to stay in their summer house. Like, "Hey, you fuck-

Brian Redban 5:39 (laughs)

Joe Rogan 5:39 ... this is where we live. Don't bring your cooties over here."

Brian Redban 5:42 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 5:42 But they live there too, man. They just ... They own two houses. They still own the house. You know, just if you own two hou- Like, how does that work? You know, like people want their isolation, right, 'cause they live in their town, but if somebody bought that house, this is still America. That's their fucking house.

Brian Redban 5:59 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 6:00 I get it, you don't want a bunch of people coughing around you, but they don't want a bunch of people coughing around them either, which is why they went to the cape in the first place.

Brian Redban 6:08 ... you know?

Joe Rogan 6:08 Just everyone's scared.

Brian Redban 6:10 Burbank had tw- like, two cases, and then yesterday, a, a retirement home right next to my house, uh, somebody got it-

Joe Rogan 6:16 Ooh.

Brian Redban 6:16 ... and gave it to s- like, 17 people. So we just went up this, like- (knocks on wood)

Joe Rogan 6:20 Ooh.

Brian Redban 6:20 ... a ton in Burbank. (laughs)

Joe Rogan 6:23 Oh.

Brian Redban 6:23 It just makes me wonder, like, any of those people went to my grocery store, 'cause now I'm thinking about that. Now, I'm like overthinking, like, I got to the overthink where, like, now I'm thinking about Postmates. I Postmate so much. What if the driver sneezes on my food, or Amazon box, like, the cardboard box, what if the-

Joe Rogan 6:36 Yeah, you gotta think, if you Postmate, that guy's going all over the place.

Brian Redban 6:40 Right.

Joe Rogan 6:40 They have to.

Brian Redban 6:41 Yeah. And I doubt-

Joe Rogan 6:42 They have to.

Brian Redban 6:42 And I doubt Postmates is giving them, like-

Joe Rogan 6:44 Mm-hmm.

Brian Redban 6:44 ... spray and gloves and all that.

Joe Rogan 6:46 (smacks lips) This is, like, the craziest way to try to stop something from spreading. In massive cities, where everybody travels, where everybody's connected to everybody. So even when you have everybody on lockdown, it just, it's like you got fingers in the dike, you know, like, trying to hold up the holes in the dam, but water's still squirting through, for sure. It's not like you open up the whole dam.

Brian Redban 7:08 Right.

Joe Rogan 7:09 But you gotta think of all the different people that have to work. Just hospital workers. Them alone, man, they have to work. I, the other thing I was reading in The Atlantic, there was another... Oh, I've been reading The Atlantic lately, apparently.

Brian Redban 7:20 (laughs)

Joe Rogan 7:21 Uh, another, another article was, they were talking about these doctors that can't even test people. They can't use the test on them unless they meet certain criteria. And the doctor was like, he said, "When these people come, they have a fever. They're, th- they're coughing. And if they didn't have coronavirus before they got here, they probably do now." I was like, "Oh, my God." Jesus Christ.

Brian Redban 7:47 And we're not even to the, supposedly the middle part of it, all this.

Joe Rogan 7:52 Mm-hmm. Yeah, and it's also, um, like, whose fault is it? Is it anybody's fault? It seems like no one has any idea what's going on. And to blame anybody... Definitely bad decisions were made.

Brian Redban 8:06 Whoever ate that first bat, Ozzie, uh, who- whoever did it.

Joe Rogan 8:08 I think they've eaten bats for a long time, man.

Brian Redban 8:10 (laughs)

Joe Rogan 8:10 They're just like the bee gees down there, trying to stay alive.

Jamie Vernon 8:12 I was reading an article about, they said the lady who was patient zero, that got it first, sh- she thinks she got it from being in a, uh, stall next to it, somehow. She didn't say she ate, like, a bat. But like-

Joe Rogan 8:24 Oh.

Jamie Vernon 8:25 ... that she was in that market, and like, she was selling something else in there, and like, being near it.

Joe Rogan 8:29 Oh, man. She was breathing bat air all day.

Jamie Vernon 8:31 Like, 20 other people got it too, around her or something.

Joe Rogan 8:32 Ugh.

Jamie Vernon 8:34 That's what, their explanation I read yesterday was.

Joe Rogan 8:36 Gross.

Jamie Vernon 8:36 Don't know how true that was, but that's what I was...

Brian Redban 8:38 Should we ex- like, is there any reason for a bat to be ali- a, a species still?

Joe Rogan 8:42 (laughs)

Brian Redban 8:42 Like, can't we just wipe out bats?

Joe Rogan 8:44 Well, they were talking about doing that with mosquitoes. But when you play God with an ecosystem, you don't know what the unintended consequences are. There's some good examples of that. Like, you can't just do that. Like, (coughs) even bringing a new species to a place where there's, you know, it seems like the, the species is gonna be fine, has disastrous results most of the time. If it does, if it's not a part of the system, like, s- it's weird, man. Like, systems, they, they're, they exist in nature, and there's like, all these strengths and weaknesses that balance each other out. These animals that eat other animals, and those animals, animals eat certain plants, and those certain plants, and they shit those plants out, it helps fertilize other plants, and they got it down. They know what they're doing. And you throw a buffalo into that, and everybody's like, " (imitates buffalo noises) "

Brian Redban 9:29 (laughs)

Joe Rogan 9:29 And e- everything gets fucked up. I mean, that's, that's what happened to Australia. You know, Australia and New Zealand are both crazy examples of that. Aus- Australia in particular, 'cause so many people live there. I mean, uh, as many, almost as many people as live in LA, live in Australia, which doesn't seem like a lot. You know?

Brian Redban 9:45 Isn't Australia like, they're not letting anyone leave?

Joe Rogan 9:47 Da- yeah, I think they got it locked down.

Brian Redban 9:48 I don't know.

Joe Rogan 9:48 Is that true?

Brian Redban 9:50 I thought I read that they were locked down.

Joe Rogan 9:51 They probably should.

Brian Redban 9:52 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 9:52 But anyway, Australia has wild cats, like house cats, that they put out to kill some other thing, that they put out to, to, to like, to live over there. They did a bunch of stupid shit like that. Like, they have all these animals just roaming around they have to kill im. They have to chase 'em down and kill 'em, all these deer, and all these different, uh, stags, and these different animals. They say they, sometimes they have to do it with helicopters. They fly over and just gun 'em down 'cause they don't have any predators. So these things just g- get to these preposterous proportions. You know?

Brian Redban 10:20 Look at Japanese beetles. You know, they came from Japan and they s- they fuck up our country, wh- every seven years, they come in town and just... Do you guys ever have beetles in LA? I don't know, like, where you have to get those beetle bags.

Joe Rogan 10:30 Oh, you get the bark beetles? Well, they get those bark beetles that fucked up Big Bear.

Brian Redban 10:33 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 10:33 They, those ba- you know, those bark beetles, they'll chew-

Brian Redban 10:35 They kill all the trees.

Joe Rogan 10:36 Yeah, they kill a certain large number of those trees, and because we're scared of fire, for good reasons, we never let fires happen. So those trees in nature, they're supposed to burn down, and it's supposed to like, down and, and everything's supposed to recover, and the burn actually helps the trees grow. You know, again, it's a system.

Brian Redban 10:51 Right.

Joe Rogan 10:51 It's been in place for a million years. But we're, we're like, "We're better than this. We're smarter. We know what we're gonna do."

Brian Redban 10:58 (laughs)

Joe Rogan 10:59 We're just gonna... Ah, some beetles got over there on a boat. Who gives a shit?

Brian Redban 11:02 (laughs)

Joe Rogan 11:03 Some plants got in someone's boot. The seeds were in the cracks of someone's boot and wound up in the forest, and this new invasive species crops up and chokes out all the native plants. It happens all the time. What's that stuff that's in the South we talked about one time? It covers everything. Some crazy growth that, uh, I believe it's from Asia originally, and it made it down... Someone was explaining it to me, and I remember I was blown away 'cause I'd never, never heard about it.

Brian Redban 11:30 It's like a mold, like an, uh...

Joe Rogan 11:32 No, it's like a v- like a vine that covers everything. It's like trees that cover other trees. They choke out all the life. They take away all the oxygen and sun.

Brian Redban 11:42 I don't know. Not ivory.

Joe Rogan 11:43 O- oxygen. Trees don't even breathe oxygen. What am I talking about?

Brian Redban 11:45 (laughs) Kud- kudzu.

Joe Rogan 11:47 Yeah, that's the stuff. Pull up a picture of that shit. Takes over a whole forest.

Brian Redban 11:51 Jesus.

Joe Rogan 11:51 Yeah, it's weird. I'd never even heard about it until like three or four years ago. Someone on the podcast brought it up and I was like, "What?"

Brian Redban 11:57 I wonder if I've seen it before.

Joe Rogan 11:57 What is this? Look at that. Dude. That's just, that stuff just takes over.

Brian Redban 12:02 Oh, so it's growing over trees.

Joe Rogan 12:04 Grows over everything.

Brian Redban 12:05 Wow. That's like, looks like ghosts.

Joe Rogan 12:07 It, yeah, it's like, it's like an alien thing that decides it's gonna like, overcome everything in its environment and completely take over other trees.

Brian Redban 12:16 At least it looks okay.

Joe Rogan 12:17 It looks dope.

Brian Redban 12:18 (laughs)

Joe Rogan 12:18 It looks dope. But it's cr- it's weird, dude. It's w-... Things like that are weird. 'Cause if that was an animal doing that to other animals, we'd be freaked out. If we, like, let these rats loose and the rats were, like, chasing down, you know, people's cows and killing all these people's cows, we'd be like, "What the fuck is going on?" "Oh, these rats just live around cows and consume them." But w- we, we see trees getting consumed. Like, l-... If you've never seen these photos, the stuff's sp- spelled K-U-D-Z-U. Um, and it's... That was pi-... Was that in the Mississippi? Was that... The photo was from? That last photo?

Brian Redban 12:56 Yeah. Yeah, I think so. Yeah.

Joe Rogan 12:57 Somewhere in the South. And I don't know when this shit... See, for s-... See if you could find the history, when it was introduced. Oh, it's in Portland, Oregon too.

Brian Redban 13:06 That name sounds like it's... It came from Asia-

Jamie Vernon 13:08 Yes.

Brian Redban 13:08 ... like ka-duh-zoo.

Jamie Vernon 13:10 Japanese.

Joe Rogan 13:10 Yeah.

Jamie Vernon 13:10 Japanese. Yeah.

Brian Redban 13:10 Goddamn you and your beetles.

Joe Rogan 13:11 Yeah. When was this brought over here? With i-... That stuff is just dominating wherever it is. It's weird. It's... Uh, when... Especially when something like this is going on, like we're dealing with coronavirus and you stop and think about things that get... 1876, senten-... Centennial Exposition in Philadelphia.

Brian Redban 13:33 Wow.

Joe Rogan 13:33 That's when kudzu was introduced from Japan at the United States at the Japanese Pavilion. 1876. So from 1876, that shit took the fuck off.

Brian Redban 13:44 Is there anything you can do with it? Like eat it or cook it or smoke it?

Joe Rogan 13:47 Well, I don't know. Good question. That picture that Jamie had, the last picture about Portland was talking about an eradication. They're trying to eradicate it, but how do you eradicate all that stuff? There's so much of it. (laughs) With the... You just-

Jamie Vernon 13:59 They used it as camo to cover up, uh...

Joe Rogan 14:01 Tanks and shit?

Jamie Vernon 14:02 Yeah, in World War II.

Joe Rogan 14:03 That makes sense. Yeah. Oh, my God. You'd hide in that stuff perfect.

Jamie Vernon 14:07 (laughs)

Joe Rogan 14:07 You'd never be able to see what the fuck anything is.

Brian Redban 14:09 There we go.

Joe Rogan 14:09 Yeah.

Jamie Vernon 14:11 You can kinda eat it.

Joe Rogan 14:11 You can kinda eat it?

Jamie Vernon 14:12 It says it can be ma-... It contains a starch, and the flowers can be made into a jelly.

Joe Rogan 14:16 Whoa! It's been used as a food ingredient in East Asia, in Vietnam, the starch called... Say that. Bat-san-day. What do you think?

Brian Redban 14:25 Bat-... Baksan-gai.

Joe Rogan 14:26 Bot-san-day. It's flavored with pomelo and then used as a drink in the summer.

Jamie Vernon 14:32 Huh.

Joe Rogan 14:33 Yeah.

Jamie Vernon 14:33 There you go.

Joe Rogan 14:34 But, um, it's a life form that's killing another life form, taking over massive swaths of land. And, uh, it makes me think about this coronavirus. You know? This is... That's, that's, that's another different... I mean, it's not a life form. It's a virus, technically, but it's obviously a thing that grows and wants life, and kills and consumes bodies and takes over.

Brian Redban 14:57 And it's so easy to pass, I guess. Like, uh, people were talking about how, like, if you let somebody pet your dog, like, if you're walking your dog and somebody goes, "Oh, no," and pets your dog.

Joe Rogan 15:05 And stays on the dog.

Brian Redban 15:05 And then it's on your dog.

Joe Rogan 15:06 Jesus Christ.

Brian Redban 15:08 (laughs) Or, like, these Juuls. You put your Juul down on a table. You don't even think about it.

Joe Rogan 15:13 Oh, yeah.

Brian Redban 15:13 Then you put it in... Right in your mouth. You're looking at a table.

Joe Rogan 15:14 You called it a dirty straw the other day. Exactly. You're just holding a dirty straw. (laughs)

Brian Redban 15:18 Yeah. Dirty straw.

Joe Rogan 15:18 You have that, you have that dirty straw in your pocket all the time. It's always rubbing up against your lint and-

Brian Redban 15:22 Right.

Joe Rogan 15:22 ... your gum, and...

Brian Redban 15:23 Yeah. Luckily, these things are... The, the ends are replaceable, so you're kind of-

Joe Rogan 15:27 Just throw it away every five minutes.

Brian Redban 15:29 Yeah. (laughs)

Joe Rogan 15:30 (laughs) Just have a giant gym bag of them. (laughs)

Brian Redban 15:33 (laughs) My girlfriend just got one of those phone cleaners where you put your phone in-

Joe Rogan 15:36 Oh, I've seen those.

Brian Redban 15:36 ... and it has the UV light.

Joe Rogan 15:37 Yeah.

Brian Redban 15:37 So now I'm putting everything in it. I'm putting Juuls, car keys.

Joe Rogan 15:39 It's a good move. It's a good move. I had heard about those before. Um, I, I didn't know there was a... There was a thing that I found about called a SteriStick, and, uh, they use it when they, uh, go b- back country hiking and stuff, and camping, and it, it purifies water with a stick. Like, it's an electrolyte band and you stick it in-

Brian Redban 15:57 Right.

Joe Rogan 15:57 ... into this, uh, U-... It's UV light, and you stick it into this, uh, elec-... The... It's like a straw-looking thing.

Brian Redban 16:05 Uh, the LifeStraw.

Joe Rogan 16:05 Yeah, like a lightsaber.

Brian Redban 16:06 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 16:06 Remember those kids' lightsabers? (light saber noises)

Brian Redban 16:08 Right.

Joe Rogan 16:08 That's what it looks like, with the clear on the outside.

Brian Redban 16:10 Mm-hmm.

Joe Rogan 16:10 And you just spit... See if you can find one of those fucking things.

Brian Redban 16:13 I wouldn't trust that.

Joe Rogan 16:13 And apparently the light kills all the bacteria, but it doesn't filter the taste. It still tastes like donkey piss.

Brian Redban 16:19 Yeah, you still get little grits of...

Joe Rogan 16:21 Yeah. I mean, if you get lucky, you get a, a clean stream, you just run that through it and it doesn't alter the taste of the water, which is nice. I don't know how it's working.

Brian Redban 16:31 Yeah, there's other ones, the LifeStraws, where you can just sit there and drink urine through a straw-

Joe Rogan 16:34 Right.

Brian Redban 16:34 ... and it cleans it out as it goes.

Joe Rogan 16:36 Yeah.

Brian Redban 16:36 No, I would trust that more than just a light. (laughs)

Joe Rogan 16:39 Well, those get clogged up, man. And sometimes they leak, sometimes people get giardia from those filters. They don't clean them good enough and they get f- clogged up with poo, which is what giardia is. You're, you're basically getting a disease that comes out of gopher shit. They call it beaver fever.

Brian Redban 16:53 (laughs)

Joe Rogan 16:54 Yeah.

Brian Redban 16:56 I wonder if this corona is gonna kill joint circles, because like now, that seems insane to-

Joe Rogan 17:00 (gasps) Insane.

Brian Redban 17:01 ... just go out in the back of the comic store with 20 co-... Dirty comics and share-

Joe Rogan 17:05 Yeah, share it at-...

Brian Redban 17:06 ... share each one.

Joe Rogan 17:06 So that fucking thing-

Brian Redban 17:07 Wow, weird.

Joe Rogan 17:07 ... that little lightsaber thing, SteriStick, that can... S-... What does it say as far as how, how quick it does it?

Jamie Vernon 17:15 This is a article about this versus the straw that's like this.

Joe Rogan 17:17 "SteriPen, a small pen-like electronic device that emits an ultraviolet light and purifies either half a liter or one full liter of water at a time. The device operates on batteries and works with clean water by killing the DNA of harmful microbes and bacteria." What? How weird is that?

Brian Redban 17:37 I wonder how long it takes though, because I know the...

Joe Rogan 17:39 Yeah. Does it say?

Brian Redban 17:40 The phone cleaner takes like 10 minutes. One minute?

Joe Rogan 17:42 One minute later?

Brian Redban 17:44 That doesn't seem right.

Joe Rogan 17:45 Well, so once the water's safe to drink, about one minute later, the light turns off and flashes green. One minute? That's insane.

Brian Redban 17:54 I wonder if they tested it. They should test it.

Joe Rogan 17:56 Yeah, you drink it, bitch.

Brian Redban 17:57 (laughs)

Jamie Vernon 17:58 (laughs)

Joe Rogan 17:58 (laughs) Remember, there was, uh, this one executive and he was talking about how safe gly-... Uh, glyphosate is. That's Roundup. That, that stuff that they're now proving causes cancer. Proving. And lawsuits have been settled and, you know, it's, it's a... It's not good for you to consume, and this guy had a glass of it, and he's like, "You could drink it."And so the guy's like, "Go ahead, drink it." He wouldn't drink it. (laughs)

Brian Redban 18:19 (laughs) Yeah, exactly.

Joe Rogan 18:20 He's like, "You can drink it." He brought a glass of it. Like, bitch, drink it.

Brian Redban 18:24 Did you see the guy that they just arrested for selling the coronavirus, uh, pill that supposedly kills the coronavirus? He reminds me of that old bodybuilding guy. What's that... Dan or whatever, that used to sell fake, uh...

Joe Rogan 18:36 Oh.

Brian Redban 18:36 (laughs)

Joe Rogan 18:37 One of them back of the book guys?

Brian Redban 18:38 Yeah. (laughs)

Joe Rogan 18:38 Yeah.

Brian Redban 18:39 Uh, but if you look at this guy, he looks like he's insane.

Joe Rogan 18:41 He's selling... Well, there was some preachers that were selling it, like Jim Baker was selling a coronavirus-

Brian Redban 18:46 Right.

Joe Rogan 18:46 ... virus cure.

Brian Redban 18:48 They straight up arrested this guy, though.

Joe Rogan 18:50 Yeah.

Brian Redban 18:50 He looks like a meathead.

Joe Rogan 18:52 What... They say there's nothing... With, with the, the chloroquine there's no studies, right? There's no definitive tests, but they're still letting people try it. Is that what's going on with that?

Brian Redban 19:03 I think so. Like, the, the couple that died took the wrong shit. They took-

Joe Rogan 19:08 Yeah, they took-

Brian Redban 19:08 ... like-

Joe Rogan 19:09 ... poison.

Brian Redban 19:09 Yeah, cleaner.

Joe Rogan 19:10 They took algae c- or, um, uh, bacteria killer. It's, it's for fucking koi ponds.

Brian Redban 19:16 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 19:16 It's poison. They took poison.

Brian Redban 19:18 Yeah, they just-

Joe Rogan 19:18 They died from taking poison.

Brian Redban 19:19 They misread or misunderstood or something. (laughs)

Joe Rogan 19:21 Dude, the media today is, is kinda spooky with their hatred of Trump is getting in the way of the accuracy of some people's reporting of the news, and that's a perfect example. By resorting to clickbait and saying that they heard it from Trump, but he... That's not what he said. What he, what he's talking about is a different kind of chloroquine.

Brian Redban 19:41 Mm-hmm.

Joe Rogan 19:41 There's more than one different kind of it, right?

Brian Redban 19:43 Right.

Joe Rogan 19:44 But if they just said, real simply, that, "These people died. Please be careful. There is more than one different kind of chloroquine."

Brian Redban 19:53 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 19:53 "And chloroquine hasn't been shown definitively to work yet, and it's not necessarily safe to take." If they said that, that would be great, but instead they had to say, "The president told people to take it," but that's not what he said. What he said is that, "There's hope, and we're hoping that this could be a cure or this could be a treatment." That's what he said, but that's what everybody's saying. Like, if you go and read articles about that, when doctors are talking about potential treatments, there's a bunch of different ones. There's IV vitamin C. There's chloroquine. There's, uh... There... So it's this chloroquine, which is like an old-school malaria medication and then Z-Paks. They're talking about... What is that called? Azithromyocin? How do you say that?

Brian Redban 20:37 I- I don't know.

Joe Rogan 20:38 You know, the... But that antibiotic, they're saying that that may have some effect, but these are may. You know, that's what they're saying. Like, there's people who are scrambling for an answer, who are trying to help people not, not sure if this is, you know, definitely gonna work or not gonna work, but it shows some promise. That's what Trump talked about. Like, you can't give him a hard time for talking about what doctors are talking about, because legitimate people are talking about that combination of things. Like, just 'cause you hate Trump, you can't distort this and make it seem like Trump did something irresponsible by talking about this hopeful dis- disease medication, and these people took the wrong version of it and died. Like, that's a cautionary tale. It's not a chance to shit on Trump, but everything's a chance to shit on Trump. It's so exhausting. It's just... It's f- it's fucking weird, man. It's weird.

Brian Redban 21:25 Well, have you seen his ratings? (laughs)

Joe Rogan 21:27 I don't... It's silly. He's silly.

Brian Redban 21:28 (laughs)

Joe Rogan 21:28 There's no doubt he does silly shit.

Brian Redban 21:30 (laughs)

Joe Rogan 21:30 But he's gotten a lot better at handling, um, confrontational conversations with reporters. You know, I was watching this one, uh, yesterday, and this reporter was, uh, asking him questions. She asked him about a few things, but she asked about people dying because of the economy failing. And him talking about like... And, "Is there anyone that could speak to this?" she says. It's in... They're just playing a game, right? The game is she knows there's no real data that shows if they do that, this will happen. If the economy crashes the way they anticipate it crashing and all these people are out of work for an extended period of time, X amount of people will kill themselves. But we, for sure, know that economic despair is a f- is a reason why some people go into depression. Depression is a reason why some people kill themselves. These are all facts that we all know. Like, maybe you can't pull that out of your ass when you're standing in front of a podium, and you're addressing people, and they're calling you out on this. And what she was saying, correctly, is, "We can't put money ahead of people's lives." So, the correct thing, by most people's account, is, for at least some period of time, separating everybody, maintaining this, this distance, and putting a stop to the, the number of disease, uh, th- uh, you know, viruses or number of people that get infected. But what he's saying is, "There's also a factor that we have to consider, that all these people out of work could lead to suicide. It could lead to drug addiction." And he's right, and you know he's right. We all know he's right. That's not... That's irrefutable. When people's lives fall apart through the unexpected circumstances, some people are hanging on by a fucking thread, and that comes along and it doesn't end. That does happen to people. We all know that to be true. Just 'cause you hate Trump, you can't pretend that this isn't gonna be rough for people, or you can't pretend that him saying that this can cause a loss of life too. I think the problem might've been, he might've said, "Maybe more life." There's no evidence of that. That's true. There's no evidence that it might cause more loss of life.

Brian Redban 23:41 I think, also, we grew up always listening when e- at a, at a stressful time, when the president came on, you felt comforted, like you... Like, his tone of voice-

Joe Rogan 23:50 Mm-hmm.

Brian Redban 23:50 How he-

Joe Rogan 23:50 Yeah.

Brian Redban 23:50 How he acted, you always kind of felt safer. And I think when, when it comes to Trump, you're just like, "Hey, hey. Fuck you." You know, and this kind of shit. (laughs)

Joe Rogan 23:59 (laughs) That's a good one.

Brian Redban 23:59 Get outta here. You know? Like... (laughs)

Joe Rogan 24:00 That's the worst Trump impression ever.

Brian Redban 24:02 (laughs)

Joe Rogan 24:02 "Hey, hey. Fuck you."

Brian Redban 24:03 Well, he, he does kinda remind me of like, you know, like a, you know, like a New York or a New Jersey guy. Like, you know, "Get this," you know, "cock sucker."

Joe Rogan 24:10 Well, I mean, he kinda is.

Brian Redban 24:12 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 24:12 He's a New York real estate mogul. You know, you have to have a certain amount of that to thrive in New York City.

Brian Redban 24:18 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 24:18 And New York people are a unique breed.Bro, who got hit harder than them? They've already lost more than 1,000 people as of this morning.

Brian Redban 24:25 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 24:26 It's, that place has got it bad, 'cause they're all stacked on top of each other. You know? It's one of the things, unfortunately, that makes New York awesome. New York, you're just immersed, you know, you're immersed in people. You know, you walk down the street in New York and there's just fucking, people are everywhere, man. They're coming at you, you're coming at them. Ah! It's wild. It's a different kind of way of living. I get it. All the people that love it, you know. My friend Jeff, he's lived there forever, since I met him. He's my manager. And, uh, he fucking loves it, loves New York, just loves it, loves knowing all the good spots.

Brian Redban 25:01 (laughs)

Joe Rogan 25:01 You know, loves knowing how to get around on the subway. He doesn't even need a ma- he loves it. He loves it. I go there, I'm like, "Jesus Christ." I just, I- I just go, and I go, "Wah! Woo! Now let me jump off that ride."

Brian Redban 25:13 Yep.

Joe Rogan 25:14 That's how I feel about New York.

Brian Redban 25:15 Me too.

Joe Rogan 25:15 Ah! Boof. But it's great. It's great. And I get it that you would wanna live there. I get it. If you're especially, like, creative types. But Judah Friedlander was telling us there's, it's like all bankers now. He says, he goes, he goes, "It's so fucking expensive to live in Manhattan." It's not like this, you know, this giant artist community anymore. He goes, "Everybody's sort of been pushed out to Brooklyn and, and pushed out to the other boroughs."

Brian Redban 25:38 It's so expensive. I looked up somebody, like a celebrity accidentally put out his address the other day, and I was like, "Oh, I wanna know where he lives." You know? He lives in like a little two bedroom, uh, apartment, $3.7 million.

Joe Rogan 25:49 (laughs)

Brian Redban 25:49 And I was just like, "What?"

Joe Rogan 25:50 That's so crazy. (laughs)

Brian Redban 25:51 (laughs) Because like, 'cause he-

Joe Rogan 25:52 Bro.

Brian Redban 25:52 Yeah, he's been blogging from it, and it just looks like a basic apartment.

Joe Rogan 25:55 40 minutes out of Nashville, 2.7, 3.7? Is that what you said? How much?

Brian Redban 25:59 3.7.

Joe Rogan 25:59 $3.7 million will buy you a goddamn farm.

Brian Redban 26:03 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 26:03 You could have a giant ass farm with like 400 acres of land and a beautiful house with a view, maybe have a creek in your backyard. That's what you get for $3.7 million.

Brian Redban 26:14 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 26:14 You're not supposed to get a fucking apartment.

Brian Redban 26:15 No. (laughs) And a basic apartment. It's in that Chelsea district, so I- I think that's-

Joe Rogan 26:19 Is that a good spot?

Brian Redban 26:20 I- I guess. I don't know anything about New York.

Joe Rogan 26:22 Yeah, I know, um, that one spot that was really good that everybody was trying to convince me I should move to flooded.

Brian Redban 26:28 (laughs)

Joe Rogan 26:28 What's that one spot down in the- in the- the base of New York? What's that one place where they all love it?

Jamie Vernon 26:34 The Financial District down there?

Joe Rogan 26:35 Yeah, there's like a- but there's an area down there that's like real ritzy.

Jamie Vernon 26:38 The Meatpacking District?

Brian Redban 26:40 Oh.

Joe Rogan 26:40 Yeah, but they don't call it that.

Jamie Vernon 26:42 Hell's Kitchen?

Joe Rogan 26:42 It's got another name.

Jamie Vernon 26:42 Hell's Kitchen?

Joe Rogan 26:43 No, no, no.

Jamie Vernon 26:43 Okay, I don't know.

Brian Redban 26:44 You sure it's not Chelsea?

Jamie Vernon 26:45 It's not Chelsea.

Joe Rogan 26:45 No, it's not that. I know people in New York are screaming right now.

Jamie Vernon 26:48 Yeah, we don't live there. I don't know (laughs) .

Joe Rogan 26:49 (sighs) There's some- I'll remember later, but it flooded. Like, real bad. Like, my friend's elevator had seven feet of water in it.

Brian Redban 26:56 Oh, God.

Joe Rogan 26:57 Yeah, like your- your lobby, you go into the lobby was filled with water. Starts with a T? Goddammit, it's driving me crazy.

Brian Redban 27:04 Triest- no.

Joe Rogan 27:05 Fuck!

Jamie Vernon 27:05 TriBeCa?

Joe Rogan 27:06 Yes!

Brian Redban 27:06 Ah.

Joe Rogan 27:07 Thank you.

Jamie Vernon 27:07 (laughs)

Joe Rogan 27:08 Oh my God.

Brian Redban 27:08 (laughs)

Jamie Vernon 27:08 It's pretty- it's all the same area. It's pretty close.

Joe Rogan 27:10 I barely made it through.

Jamie Vernon 27:12 A whole box away.

Joe Rogan 27:12 But, uh, so we went there to visit once back in the disay when my older daughter was going to college, and when we drove around, like to see what it'd be like to live in New York, we were like, "You guys are high."

Brian Redban 27:24 (laughs)

Joe Rogan 27:24 Like, it's ... You can't even park. There's nowhere to park. If you want a parking spot, it costs you like 2,000 bucks. Like (sighs) a month.

Brian Redban 27:31 That's kind of it. Like, maybe if- 'cause you, if you don't like cars you would like New York better. But like, if you have a car, I mean-

Joe Rogan 27:37 Yeah. Well, there's freedom that we have. There's a freedom of just being able to get in your car and just, you know, drive down to a deli at 1:00 in the morning and park and get out with your friends, and ... It's that freedom that you have to just go wherever you want with cars. Once you get used to that and you get used to not being on top of people, like the subway, you get just like, you get spoiled. You get spoiled. But there's a benefit to being on top of people too. New York is way more diverse in terms of the way people interact with each other. Like, they're- you- you're walk- like, rich people are walking down the street with poor people who are walking up the street, and everybody's together. There's no everybody together in LA. You know? There's like no time where everybody just intermingles. It's like, people stay in their neighborhoods or they go out to bars and restaurants and they go back to their neighborhoods. They're not walking past each other for prolonged periods of time, to and from work, you know, in the neighborhood, going from place to place just walking around. It's kind of ironic that the most urban place is the place where the people walk the most. Kind of ironic, right?

Brian Redban 28:41 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 28:42 I mean, (laughs) any place, any place that's less urban, everybody just drives everywhere, 'cause it's easier to just get in your car and drive somewhere. But there it's al- so hard to park. Everybody just walks. Im- no, imagine if everybody in New York had a car. That would be the most ridiculous thing ever.

Brian Redban 28:57 Oh, God.

Joe Rogan 28:57 You- you actually couldn't do it. Right?

Brian Redban 29:00 No.

Joe Rogan 29:00 How many million people are in New York?

Jamie Vernon 29:03 Well-

Joe Rogan 29:03 In Manhattan, just Manhattan.

Jamie Vernon 29:04 That live there?

Joe Rogan 29:05 Yeah, what do you think?

Jamie Vernon 29:06 A couple, like-

Joe Rogan 29:07 Seven?

Jamie Vernon 29:07 No, it's less than that because like Brooklyn's way bigger.

Joe Rogan 29:10 Really?

Jamie Vernon 29:10 Yeah. I mean, most people driving into the city-

Joe Rogan 29:13 Okay, but-

Jamie Vernon 29:13 ... work for the day and then they leave.

Brian Redban 29:15 Mm-hmm.

Joe Rogan 29:16 Let's- let's take a bet. I bet it's more than that. I bet it's five.

Brian Redban 29:20 I just heard a-

Joe Rogan 29:20 At least five.

Brian Redban 29:21 I just heard a discussion about it the other day. People had listened-

Joe Rogan 29:23 Oh, what'd you hear it on?

Jamie Vernon 29:24 Like, like some guys talking about how Brooklyn, if it was on its own, not part of the boroughs, it would be like the fifth-largest city in the country.

Joe Rogan 29:30 Was this guy just someone hanging out with you? Or ...

Jamie Vernon 29:32 No, people- no, no, no. Like it was a podcast discussion-

Joe Rogan 29:34 Oh.

Jamie Vernon 29:34 They're like, "I live in New York," and they were just talking about it the other day.

Joe Rogan 29:36 That's a problem. I heard. This, I heard shit.

Jamie Vernon 29:38 Wow.

Joe Rogan 29:38 Let's Google it. I say five million. What do you say?

Brian Redban 29:41 Uh, 3.7.

Joe Rogan 29:43 Oh, that's a good hedge your bet move.

Jamie Vernon 29:44 (laughs)

Joe Rogan 29:45 When you say two-

Jamie Vernon 29:45 How many people live in Manhattan?

Joe Rogan 29:46 Yeah, yeah, full-time residents.

Jamie Vernon 29:47 ... probably less than a million.

Joe Rogan 29:48 Wow, wow. Holy shit.

Brian Redban 29:50 Hmm.

Joe Rogan 29:50 That doesn't seem right.

Jamie Vernon 29:51 There's not that, it's not that big.

Joe Rogan 29:53 Manhattan?

Jamie Vernon 29:54 Manhattan like the borough or all of New York City?

Joe Rogan 29:56 No, just Manhattan.

Jamie Vernon 29:57 Like, Manhattan?

Joe Rogan 29:57 Just Manhattan.

Jamie Vernon 29:58 Yeah, yeah.

Joe Rogan 30:00 Yeah.

Jamie Vernon 30:00 It's not that big.

Joe Rogan 30:00 I bet it's bigger than that.

Brian Redban 30:01 So it's like a Burbank at night. Everyone leaves.

Joe Rogan 30:04 (laughs)

Brian Redban 30:04 And there's no one that actually lives there. (laughs)

Joe Rogan 30:06 There's no way it's a million. There's no way it's a million. There's so many people that live there.

Jamie Vernon 30:10 1.6 it says.

Brian Redban 30:11 Wow.

Joe Rogan 30:11 Oh my God, that's bonkers. Is that in the '30s?

Jamie Vernon 30:15 2020.

Joe Rogan 30:16 (laughs)

Brian Redban 30:17 (laughs) 1930s.

Joe Rogan 30:20 1.6. And how many visit there to work every day? That's, that's gotta be fucking stupendous. What do you guess?

Brian Redban 30:26 Uh-

Joe Rogan 30:27 Every day.

Brian Redban 30:28 3.7. (laughs)

Joe Rogan 30:31 (laughs) Um, I'm saying five, five million visitors. How many?

Jamie Vernon 30:36 Uh.

Brian Redban 30:36 Ah, 65.2 million tourists in a year.

Joe Rogan 30:39 Oh, what does that mean?

Jamie Vernon 30:40 ... so there's around that many per day.

Joe Rogan 30:40 But that's tourists. I mean, uh, commuters.

Jamie Vernon 30:42 Like work there, yeah.

Joe Rogan 30:43 How many people do you think commute there every day? 3.7. It's a, it's an interesting life, man. And th- those people that love it, when they go somewhere else-

Jamie Vernon 30:53 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 30:53 That's as much as it is?

Jamie Vernon 30:54 1.6 to 3.1 commute every day, so it doubles-

Joe Rogan 30:57 Oh.

Jamie Vernon 30:57 ... the population.

Joe Rogan 30:58 That's it, huh?

Brian Redban 30:58 3.1?

Joe Rogan 30:59 Wow, I would've guessed it would be... I would have guessed that Manhattan was like seven million people. What is like the whole of New York City, all the boroughs together?

Jamie Vernon 31:06 That's what it all... It's like close to like 10 or 11, 12-

Joe Rogan 31:08 Wow.

Jamie Vernon 31:08 ... when you get everything all together, but-

Joe Rogan 31:10 But Manhattan itself is... Yeah. Well, it's a lot of fucking rich people.

Jamie Vernon 31:15 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 31:15 You see some of the places that are for sale in Manhattan. I, uh, I don't know what happened, but I got on a YouTube thing where I started watching these ridiculous apartment buildings in New York City that they build, where they build them specifically for like, you know, some crazy Arab oil dude who's got a shit ton of money, w- wants the dopest fucking house on the planet Earth, or some hedge fund guy who's about to get busted before he want... he wants to go out with a bang-

Brian Redban 31:37 Right.

Joe Rogan 31:38 ... and spend all his money. But they have elevators and fucking theaters and huge home spas. And they have... Some of them actually have garages. You can actually park in a garage in New York City and they-

Brian Redban 31:49 Wow.

Joe Rogan 31:49 ... they show us like, "The crowning jewel of this building, a garage. You actually can park your car in New York City." I'm like, "Wow, what is, what is wrong? What did you do?" (laughs)

Brian Redban 32:02 Yeah. It's, it's weird being on Facebook. My friend's a realtor and he'll just post like, like, "Oh, here. Here's a eight bedroom unit in Texas, $200,000." And you're just looking at like, "That's Scarface's house." Like-

Joe Rogan 32:14 (laughs)

Brian Redban 32:14 ... "I wanna buy that." (laughs)

Joe Rogan 32:16 Yeah, you'd have to... If you lived in Texas, would you go Austin? There's two moves.

Brian Redban 32:20 Mm-hmm.

Joe Rogan 32:21 No, there's three moves really.

Brian Redban 32:22 Right.

Joe Rogan 32:22 There's Austin, if you're like, "Yeah, I want a hand tattoo." (laughs) "I want..."

Brian Redban 32:27 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 32:27 "Yeah, I love, uh, I love, uh, craft beer and, uh, I like, I like going to see live bands." Or you're Houston, where it's like you really love oil money. Or Dallas.

Brian Redban 32:38 I would definitely not do Houston because of the weather.

Joe Rogan 32:41 Too funky?

Brian Redban 32:42 And yeah, it's too humid out there.

Joe Rogan 32:43 Summer gets hot.

Brian Redban 32:44 And it's too much drown, like flooding lately.

Joe Rogan 32:46 They do flood.

Brian Redban 32:47 It's... They're, they're out of control right... Like my, my ex-girlfriend's house, her parents' house got flooded like four times. They rebuilt it and then it got flood, rebuilt it.

Joe Rogan 32:54 (laughs) Remember that one time when we were-

Brian Redban 32:56 Dallas.

Joe Rogan 32:56 ... we were at the Laugh Stop and, uh, after we left, the entire city went under water.

Brian Redban 33:01 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 33:02 Like the hotel where we were staying at doesn't exist anymore 'cause it went under water.

Brian Redban 33:05 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 33:06 (laughs)

Brian Redban 33:07 It's sad. We missed-

Joe Rogan 33:07 Dallas is the move I think.

Brian Redban 33:08 ... we missed the Laugh Stop. Yeah, Dallas is my f- my favorite.

Joe Rogan 33:10 'Cause you could always drive to Austin and then you can get out before anybody just annoys you.

Brian Redban 33:14 And Dallas is pretty close to Los Angeles. It's got a lot of money and it's very rich. And so everywhere you go, it feels very LA.

Joe Rogan 33:20 And they have less healers per capita.

Brian Redban 33:22 Yeah. (laughs)

Joe Rogan 33:23 You know what I mean?

Brian Redban 33:24 (laughs)

Jamie Vernon 33:24 (laughs)

Joe Rogan 33:25 It's... Uh, don't get me wrong, I fucking love Austin. I love Austin. But there's, there's a high percentage of knuckleheads that are like, uh, wrapped up in the spiritual sort of aspects of nonsense.

Brian Redban 33:37 It takes one rock store to ruin that though.

Joe Rogan 33:40 One crystal store. (laughs)

Jamie Vernon 33:42 (laughs)

Joe Rogan 33:42 Oh my God. One person who's a channeler-

Jamie Vernon 33:46 (laughs)

Joe Rogan 33:46 ... was doing seances at their house.

Brian Redban 33:50 (laughs)

Jamie Vernon 33:50 You think their business is picking up right now?

Joe Rogan 33:52 No.

Jamie Vernon 33:52 Protecting people?

Joe Rogan 33:53 No, people need money. People need money. They- they're not gonna spend their fucking money on some nonsense. They're... In the back of their head, they know it was nonsense. You're hearing way, way, way, way, way less people complain about nonsense right now. You know, you don't, you don't hear the, the standard outrage at stupid shit. What you're hearing now is people really concerned about people's lives. You know, and I'm, I'm hoping that this is gonna last, that this feeling of understanding that we are really vulnerable, we're all, we- we're in this together. We really are, you know? And sometimes it takes something like this to happen where you go, "Oh shit." But no, we really are. We're in this together. We just didn't realize it 'cause it was easy. It was easy to get by.

Brian Redban 34:35 It's really cool seeing the, the neighborhood aspect of it. Like I've been... I, I don't know if you're on Nextdoor. I'd tell you're on Nextdoor. (laughs) That'd be hilarious. But, uh, Nextdoor is like, you know, like it's a Reddit thread for your neighborhood.

Joe Rogan 34:46 Mm-hmm.

Brian Redban 34:46 And just hearing people like, "Hey, does anyone have toilet paper?" And somebody's like, "Oh, I'll drop off lemons, my lemon tree." You know, and just like helping each other out. It's like... It's-

Joe Rogan 34:53 Yeah.

Brian Redban 34:53 ... pretty, pretty beautiful.

Joe Rogan 34:54 It is.

Brian Redban 34:55 It didn't happen before this, you know.

Joe Rogan 34:56 Yeah, it's very cool. It's funny you say lemons. My next door neighbor, she was handing out lemons yesterday. She had a bucket, "Free lemons."

Brian Redban 35:01 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 35:01 "Come take some lemons." Just set it out in front of the house.

Brian Redban 35:04 Kinda like a lemon tree.

Joe Rogan 35:05 Yeah, it's um... There's good parts to being scared, you realize. You know, people get cocky, man. It's one of the reasons why I like weed. One of the like... I've talked about this and people think I'm kidding, but one of the reasons why I like weed is it makes me paranoid. I like it.

Brian Redban 35:20 Mm-hmm.

Joe Rogan 35:21 I- I- I can get cocky. People get cocky. You get confused, you know. You can, you can start believing some pretty stupid things about just life in general if you're not humbled by a little fear sometimes. Just a little nervousness, just a little anxiety, just a little look up at sk- the sky. What would we do if an asteroid shower just came down unannounced and just completely wiped out the power grid? You wanna talk about death and disease? What we're experiencing now is... This is a fucking dry run for a real apocalyptic event. This is nothing. This is nothing in comparison to stuff that could happen. We got cocky. We didn't think it could happen 'cause nothing had happened in so long and we'd find these craters and be like, "Huh?" "Hmm." "Look, we found that spot where everybody died and, uh, you know, 200,000 years ago." "Oh look, here's a spot where the dinosaurs were killed 65 million years ago." There's all these spots where they keep finding these gigantic fucking craters.

Jamie Vernon 36:24 (laughs)

Brian Redban 36:25 Here's where Noah's ark crashed.

Joe Rogan 36:27 Yeah, exactly.

Jamie Vernon 36:29 (laughs)

Joe Rogan 36:29 But you have that guy.

Brian Redban 36:29 People that are, people that are really just looking for Noah's ark, you miss the point.

Guest (unidentified, friend/associate on mic) 36:35 ... remember that guy from a long time ago that made the video, Noah's Ark?

Joe Rogan 36:38 Oh, yeah. Yeah. That's right.

Guest (unidentified, friend/associate on mic) 36:38 Uh, I wonder what happened to that guy? (laughs)

Joe Rogan 36:40 Didn't that guy want us to go look at it?

Guest (unidentified, friend/associate on mic) 36:41 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 36:42 You know.

Guest (unidentified, friend/associate on mic) 36:42 You were like, "What are you gonna show me? A big boat?" (laughs) Like... (laughs)

Joe Rogan 36:46 (laughs) I'm like, "Bro, but if you're coming to me, you already fucked up." You know, you're coming to me to, to release your Noah's Ark information? (laughs)

Guest (unidentified, friend/associate on mic) 36:57 (laughs)

Joe Rogan 36:58 This is... I don't think this is real, sir. But what I think the Noah's Ark story is, it... Look, you just have to th- put it through the filter of time, right? We're talking about thousands and thousands of years ago, and we're talking about people likely telling a story for hundreds, if not thousands of years before it ever gets written down. And all these different versions of it get tossed around, but the heart of the Noah's Ark story is a cataclysmic event happens, and this one guy collects a bunch of animals and he restarts civilization. That is... You could easily put that through the filter of interpretation and say, "I bet what happened was there was a small group of people that survived some sort of massive cataclysmic event, and one guy convinced someone, or they made it up, that he knew it was coming and that God had been talking to him, so that's why he was able to, to lead everybody." And then after they tell the story 3,000 different times, it gets all whacked out and, you know, God comes down and tells him, "No, you gotta build a boat." So he builds this boat and everybody laughs at him and he brings on two of each animal, you know. It's the dumbest story ever. It's a... But it's a story that clearly it's not a real story, right? 'Cause I, you know, I had that bit about if you told that to a five-year-old kid with a mental handicap, he would be like, "There's a lot of holes in that story."

Guest (unidentified, friend/associate on mic) 38:31 (laughs)

Joe Rogan 38:31 You ever had that bit?

Guest (unidentified, friend/associate on mic) 38:31 Yeah, I love that bit.

Joe Rogan 38:32 That bit was... But the, the accuracy of it's like, animals eat other animals. You can't just have two of each animal on a boat. That's ridiculous. That doesn't make any sense. That makes zero sense. Like, what are you doing? Why are you lying to me? Something else happened. But what they're trying to say is some animal survived and r- civilization restarted. They didn't know how big the world was back then. People 4,000 years ago or whatever it was when they first wrote these stories down or even had these ideas, those people had no idea how big the world was. They were in their spot. If some shit went down in your spot, you thought the world was ending. You know, could you imagine if you're living near Pompeii when that Mount Vesuvius blows and the whole fucking town gets covered in ash and everybody dies? Imagine if you're living anywhere near there. You would think that hell just broke out in, in the world. You wouldn't think, oh, in, you know, Thailand right now, they're just chilling on the beach. You wouldn't think that. You would think it's over like this for everyone everywhere. Meanwhile, on the other side of the world, in fucking New Zealand, they didn't even know it happened. They had no idea. They're just hanging out. Meanwhile, these people are dead as fuck, covered in ash. Over in New Zealand, they're just hanging out. You know? Like, that's how the world is. The world's huge and if, if some shit goes down in one part, back then you didn't know. So if you were one of the people that survived when some shit went down, you would write about it, and then people would talk and they'd tell that story and they'd pass it on to other people and they'd pass it on to other people and somewhere through these stories they figured out there's like a framework in here for telling people that shit could go down and that we have to work together and that we have to believe in a higher power and that if you believe in a higher power and you believe there's something else that's bigger and better than you, you'll do better things while you're here. You know? That's... It's so obvious. Obviously I could be wrong too, but my... That's, that's my take on it and I think we've just had this giant stretch where none of those things happened. You know? We, we've had a couple of hundred years of pretty easy life in terms of natural disasters. You know, you got your occasional hurricane. A- again, if you were there, you would think it's hell. If you were... Or the tornado hits. When we're chilling here in LA and a tornado hits Louisiana, we feel bad. You see, oh, 36 people died in a tornado, we feel bad, but you don't feel it, you know. You don't know the sky monster's coming to take your loved ones. But if you're there, that sky monster is a real thing. It's a sky monster. Just 'cause it doesn't have fangs, just 'cause it doesn't laugh at you while it's ripping your family apart and throwing fucking ba- bathtubs in the air and... You ever seen... There's one video of a, a semi, like a semi-truck spinning in the sky.

Guest (unidentified, friend/associate on mic) 41:10 Was it Twister (laughs) in the movie Twister?

Joe Rogan 41:12 Spinning in the sky. No!

Guest (unidentified, friend/associate on mic) 41:13 (laughs)

Joe Rogan 41:13 No, no, no. It was real.

Guest (unidentified, friend/associate on mic) 41:15 (laughs)

Joe Rogan 41:15 It was real you son of a bitch.

Guest (unidentified, friend/associate on mic) 41:16 Really? That was real? (laughs)

Joe Rogan 41:16 Yes. Yeah, it hit, it hit... (laughs) That's hilarious. It hit a, uh, a parking area for semi-trucks and these, uh, semi-trucks were literally getting flown around in the air.

Guest (unidentified, friend/associate on mic) 41:28 Ah, shit.

Joe Rogan 41:29 Yeah. I think-

Guest (unidentified, friend/associate on mic) 41:30 I, um-

Joe Rogan 41:30 ... we found this before. Dude, it might be Twister.

Guest (unidentified, friend/associate on mic) 41:32 (laughs)

Joe Rogan 41:33 (laughs)

Guest (unidentified, friend/associate on mic) 41:33 With Helen Hunt in it.

Joe Rogan 41:34 No, no, no. There it is.

Guest (unidentified, friend/associate on mic) 41:35 Oh, okay. (laughs)

Joe Rogan 41:36 Okay, look at this. Look at this. It's flying in the air.

Guest (unidentified, friend/associate on mic) 41:37 Oh my God.

Joe Rogan 41:38 Look at that.

Guest (unidentified, friend/associate on mic) 41:38 Like that just like Twister.

Joe Rogan 41:39 It's just like Twister, but it's real and it's metal. Dude that's a fucking... It's probably several thousand pounds.

Guest (unidentified, friend/associate on mic) 41:46 Holy shit.

Joe Rogan 41:46 And they're just getting flown through the air by the sky monster. Now imagine if a huge dinosaur came through town and did the exact same amount of damage, killed the exact same amount of people, you'd be like, "Fucking Godzilla's real. Oh shit." It's a fucking lizard monster, but we're not scared of the sky monster the way we are of the lizard monster. You would never live in the land where the lizard monster comes.

Guest (unidentified, friend/associate on mic) 42:09 And he just disappears.

Joe Rogan 42:10 Right?

Guest (unidentified, friend/associate on mic) 42:10 He just goes back up in the clouds. (laughs)

Joe Rogan 42:11 Yeah, you see him in the... Over the mountains. (imitates monster roar) And you know he's coming and you're like, "Fuck! We gotta get outta here." That's just like the sky monster, but he doesn't chase you. Sky Monster's blind. He just... Whatever's in his path if he gets lucky and catches a town, he just rips that fucker apart, but if he just goes through the swamp and sends alligators into the air either, he doesn't give a fuck. Sky Monster's just doing sky monster type shit. He's not targeting specific individuals, but the lizard monster would. That's the only difference. Right?

Guest (unidentified, friend/associate on mic) 42:37 Are you talking like if Godzilla's real?

Joe Rogan 42:39 Yes. If Godzilla's real-

Guest (unidentified, friend/associate on mic) 42:40 (laughs)

Joe Rogan 42:40 ... and he only went to Louisiana, who the fuck is gonna live, live in Louisiana?Imagine if Godzilla's-

Brian Redban 42:46 (laughs)

Joe Rogan 42:46 ... proven ... Godzilla's never gone outside the boundaries of Louisiana.

Brian Redban 42:49 (laughs)

Joe Rogan 42:49 You go to Louisiana, (roars) everybody's running from Godzilla.

Jamie Vernon 42:52 Well, no one in the movies leaves Tokyo, they stay there. They're just like, "Hey, Godzilla's back." (laughs)

Brian Redban 42:56 Have you ever been to Tokyo?

Jamie Vernon 42:57 No. (laughs)

Brian Redban 42:57 No. No.

Joe Rogan 42:57 Brian, Brian and I went to Tokyo-

Jamie Vernon 42:59 No.

Joe Rogan 42:59 ... it's pretty dope.

Brian Redban 42:59 I missed Tokyo.

Jamie Vernon 43:00 I hope I can go-

Brian Redban 43:00 I want to go.

Jamie Vernon 43:01 ... one day, maybe.

Brian Redban 43:02 Let's, if it's still there.

Jamie Vernon 43:03 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 43:03 If it's still there, they'll let us in.

Brian Redban 43:04 That'd be fun to edit Godzilla into all these tornado movies. (laughs)

Joe Rogan 43:07 But if you think about it, man, this virus ... I've been saying this about all viruses, that diseases are like demons, you know? And we, we just ... If we were losing ... Like, have you seen the numbers too? This is something that, uh, my friend, Steve, who's a doctor, sent me, and this is a fucking cr- a, a series of crazy statistics. But, um, the crazy statistics about how many people die. Like, it puts it into perspective. I mean, and all life lost is valuable, all life lost is a tragedy. I'm not saying anything other than that. But what I'm just ... I'm not diminishing anyone's loss of life, but what I am saying is I was stunned when I saw the actual numbers. So, 2017 to two thu- uh, to 2018, uh, H2N3 pandemic killed 61,000 Americans. Did you know that?

Brian Redban 44:03 Mm-hmm.

Joe Rogan 44:04 I didn't know that.

Brian Redban 44:05 I didn't know that. Did you know that, James?

Jamie Vernon 44:07 I've heard numbers like that recently, yeah, but not before-

Joe Rogan 44:09 2017 to 2018, hospitalized 30,453 and estimated affected was 894,700 people by that flu. That's crazy. Overall death rate was 7.5 with a peak in January 2018 of 10.8. Again, I'm a moron, not a doctor, reading you a text message. Maybe I shouldn't be doing that.

Brian Redban 44:34 (laughs)

Joe Rogan 44:34 Maybe someone should look into this. 2009 pandemic. Now, this is the one that Bert said he had. He said the H1N1.

Jamie Vernon 44:40 Mm-hmm.

Joe Rogan 44:42 Uh, it killed 83,300 Americans.

Brian Redban 44:45 Jeez.

Joe Rogan 44:46 Death rates ranged from 4% to 33% for pediatric, zero to 22%, uh, for 18 to 64, for zero to 4% for those over 65. Man, this is crazy. US cases, 60.8 million, 274,000 hospitalized, 12,469 deaths in the US. Like, th- I'm just going over all these different ones that happened. Flu of the year of 2020, cases reported, 45 million, hospitas- hospitalizations, 415,000; deaths, 48,000. That's for the 2020 flu, this flu season. There's so many people that died of the flu. But obviously this ha- w- when you see healthcare workers freaking out, you know this is different. So, what is different about it? That's-

Brian Redban 45:39 It's all at the same time.

Joe Rogan 45:40 Yeah. It's all at the same time-

Jamie Vernon 45:41 Yeah, it's all at the-

Joe Rogan 45:42 ... it's new.

Jamie Vernon 45:42 Yeah, yeah.

Joe Rogan 45:42 It's a new virus. People don't, uh, they don't have immunity for it, they don't really know how to cure it and it attacks the respiratory system. And it seems to have a real quick turnaround from, "I'm not feeling so good," to, "I'm dead." You know, it's, uh, it happens very quickly for some people, shockingly so with some of these r- in ... And it seems to affect different people in different ways. Like, there's a lot going on with this one that has smart people going, "We need to fucking stay home for a bit. Just, uh, everybody chill. No large gatherings."

Brian Redban 46:11 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 46:11 "Just chill."

Brian Redban 46:12 Do you ever get the flu shot every year? I mean, uh, like, I, I feel like I get the flu almost every year, but I-

Joe Rogan 46:18 (laughs)

Brian Redban 46:18 (laughs) ... I never do the flu shot. Like it's-

Joe Rogan 46:20 Well, maybe you should do the other thing.

Brian Redban 46:21 Uh, I don't know. Like, I didn't get it last year.

Joe Rogan 46:23 I don't get the flu shot.

Brian Redban 46:24 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 46:25 Yeah.

Brian Redban 46:25 Is it-

Joe Rogan 46:26 But I, I would.

Brian Redban 46:26 ... is that a bad idea? It seems like it's a bad-

Joe Rogan 46:27 I've survived and been healthy by just, uh, eating well and not getting the flu shot and then making sure I'm in the sauna and I exercise well and sleep well and I've been able to shake it off. But, uh, it's a good move. It's probably ... I probably should get the flu shot. And if I got the flu again, maybe I'd be like, "Fuck, man. I shoulda got the flu shot. Let me just get that flu shot." But, I mean, whether it's diet or whether it's, um, all this shit I'm on, all the different vitamins and hormones and the fact that I'm in the fucking sauna for 25 minutes every day, but I rarely get sick.

Brian Redban 47:02 It seems like you would get it more just because you're around, like, you know, gyms and saunas and, like, places where there's a lot of sweat and-

Joe Rogan 47:09 The only cooties I've gotten in the gym that scare me is staph.

Brian Redban 47:12 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 47:12 I've gotten staph a couple of times. That scares me.

Brian Redban 47:15 Did you ever get ringworm?

Joe Rogan 47:16 Yeah, I got that a bunch of times. I got that twice at least, maybe three times, which is not that bad. You put Lamisil on it, stay off the mat for a little bit. And then the products that I started using, um, prevented or, uh, saved me from that. It's a company called Defense Soap.

Brian Redban 47:29 Yeah. I've got that. I use that.

Joe Rogan 47:30 You know, uh, yeah, it's the shit because it's all natural stuff. It's all tea tree oil and eucalyptus oil. And it's, it's not antibiotic in that doesn't kill off all the good bacteria. It just coats your body with this soap and it's all, like, natural. It, it, it kills the bad bacteria, but it doesn't kill good bacteria. I don't understand how that works, folks. But people have known that forever. The tea tree oil and eucalyptus oil-

Brian Redban 47:53 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 47:54 ... are good for infections and-

Brian Redban 47:55 Right.

Joe Rogan 47:55 ... preventing infections.

Brian Redban 47:56 I use it 'cause I'm a, like a yeasty boy. I'm very yeasty.

Joe Rogan 47:59 Oh, you're yeasty?

Brian Redban 47:59 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 48:00 Hmm.

Brian Redban 48:01 (laughs)

Joe Rogan 48:01 You get yeast infections?

Brian Redban 48:02 No, I give it. I give them, though.

Joe Rogan 48:04 You give them out? (laughs)

Brian Redban 48:04 Yeah, I give them out. You're lucky if you get one from me.

Joe Rogan 48:07 He does give them out.

Brian Redban 48:08 (laughs)

Jamie Vernon 48:08 (laughs)

Joe Rogan 48:09 Like awards.

Brian Redban 48:11 (laughs)

Joe Rogan 48:11 Yeah. I've been, I've been lucky with diseases, knock on wood.

Brian Redban 48:14 Yeah. (knocks on wood)

Joe Rogan 48:16 Um, but it's, uh, you, you know, this is a weird one if you're, if you're compromised. You know, people that have, uh, lung issues or people that have had, uh, like ... (sighs) I hate to say it, Brian, but vaping.

Brian Redban 48:30 Vaping. Yeah, I think cigarettes and vaping and ...

Joe Rogan 48:33 Can't be good for you.

Brian Redban 48:33 I wonder if weed smokers, though. 'Cause I know it's always, like, you know it's-

Joe Rogan 48:36 Well, it's definitely not good for you.

Brian Redban 48:37 Right.

Joe Rogan 48:37 Right?

Brian Redban 48:38 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 48:38 It's like, how bad is it for you? Tommy Chong, still going. Uh, I mean, I'm gonna ... Um, he's my canary in a coal mine.

Brian Redban 48:44 (laughs) Right.

Joe Rogan 48:44 'Cause Willie Nelson's outta the game. Willie Nelson moved over to the edible game, 100%.

Brian Redban 48:50 Oh, he did?

Joe Rogan 48:50 Yes, he did.

Brian Redban 48:50 I didn't know that.

Joe Rogan 48:50 Couldn't take the smoking anymore.

Brian Redban 48:52 Wow.

Joe Rogan 48:52 Yeah. Smoking was fucking him up.So, he moved over to the edible game. When does he start-

Brian Redban 48:57 It's ex- still fucks your lungs out. You're still coughing.

Joe Rogan 48:59 I'm just gonna stop making psychedelic songs at 90.

Brian Redban 49:01 (laughs)

Jamie Vernon 49:02 He's still gotta sing.

Brian Redban 49:03 Right. (laughs)

Joe Rogan 49:03 Yeah.

Jamie Vernon 49:03 Tommy Chong doesn't have to sing, right?

Joe Rogan 49:04 It's true. It's true.

Jamie Vernon 49:05 'Cause Willie's gotta sing songs to...

Joe Rogan 49:07 Yeah, and the, uh, just the r- just the smoke, just the hot smoke. A- apparently the number of, you know, joints that that guy can put away is supposed to be terrifying. Toby Keith wrote a song about it, "I'll Never Smoke Wo- Weed With Willie Again."

Brian Redban 49:23 (laughs)

Joe Rogan 49:24 He wrote a song about getting high with Willie. Like, everybody says that. Like, you get high with Willie.

Brian Redban 49:29 Snoop versus Willie, who do you got?

Joe Rogan 49:32 I gotta go with Snoop.

Brian Redban 49:33 Yeah. (laughs)

Joe Rogan 49:34 I just gotta go with Snoop. I go with Snoop all day.

Brian Redban 49:37 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 49:37 Outta respect. But Snoop is such a G, he might lay down. He might take a dive-

Brian Redban 49:41 (laughs)

Joe Rogan 49:41 ... just for Willie so Willie feels better. You know what I mean?

Brian Redban 49:44 That's true.

Joe Rogan 49:45 It's like, "I, I can win another day." This is Willie Nelson. He, you know, Snoop Dogg might, he might, uh, take a dive in that one. But if they really wanted to go head-to-head, Snoop's gonna be awake for days, just still smoking. (laughs)

Brian Redban 49:57 Do you think Willie smokes blunts though? And I thought he can't-

Joe Rogan 49:59 (whistles)

Brian Redban 49:59 ... but you think he does. Like, someb- Snoop fucking tears down blunts.

Joe Rogan 50:03 Yeah. I don't know what-

Brian Redban 50:04 It's a different thing.

Joe Rogan 50:05 Well, Willie used to smoke cigarettes, right? So, I bet he avoids blunts.

Brian Redban 50:08 Or he loves them.

Jamie Vernon 50:09 Right.

Joe Rogan 50:09 Yeah.

Brian Redban 50:09 I know a lot of people that quit smoking, they're like, "No, I'm a blunt guy." I'm like, "Oh, okay. We know what's going on here." (laughs)

Jamie Vernon 50:13 Right.

Joe Rogan 50:13 Exactly. Well, I know a guy who used cigars to get off of cigarettes. Started smoking cigars and got his nicotine fix, but, you know, it was, felt better because he wasn't inhaling and just, you know, you just keep it in your mouth so your breath stinks.

Brian Redban 50:26 Smell up the place wherever you're at.

Joe Rogan 50:29 Yeah, you don't like cigars.

Brian Redban 50:31 No, I, I, I don't mind them.

Joe Rogan 50:32 Just hilarious.

Brian Redban 50:32 I just, like, when you go to a place, like let's say you're at The Comedy Store front patio and five people are smoking cigars, it's kind of like-

Joe Rogan 50:39 Oh, yeah. Yeah.

Brian Redban 50:39 ... "Get me the fuck out of here." It's little... (laughs)

Joe Rogan 50:40 That's a little obnoxious. Yeah. That's a little of a, little dick swing-y.

Brian Redban 50:44 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 50:44 You know?

Brian Redban 50:45 Yeah, 'cause you're pretty much just taking over the air.

Joe Rogan 50:48 You're making people smell.

Brian Redban 50:48 (laughs)

Joe Rogan 50:49 Yeah. You're making people smell you. Like, if you go to one, the best place to go is one of those cigar bars.

Brian Redban 50:54 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 50:54 'Cause there's a bunch of other cigar dorks in there and you guys can all get together. And apparently, is this true? Are cigar bars essential? Is that one of those essential businesses that are open?

Brian Redban 51:03 I mean, if pot shops are, I can imagine.

Joe Rogan 51:06 Yeah. 'Cause here's the thing, people do get addicted to tobacco.

Brian Redban 51:10 Right.

Joe Rogan 51:10 So, what do you do about that? Do you say, "Hey, now isn't the time to quit"?

Brian Redban 51:14 Right.

Joe Rogan 51:14 "Sorry, you can't, you can't go anywhere"? Or, do you let them, if that's how they get their tobacco fix, do you let them? What do you think?

Brian Redban 51:22 I would say they're nonessential. But, I mean, pot shops surprise me.

Joe Rogan 51:26 But liquor stores-

Brian Redban 51:26 But look at gun shops, man. I, my studio in Burbank is by three gun shops. I did, had no idea. But there's three right next door to me, and there's lines going down the street, like, a mile long-

Joe Rogan 51:36 Yep.

Brian Redban 51:36 ... just to get a gun.

Joe Rogan 51:37 Yeah. Well-

Brian Redban 51:37 We have a 10-day waiting great.

Joe Rogan 51:39 Yeah. But still, 10 days later you got a gun.

Brian Redban 51:41 Right.

Joe Rogan 51:41 A lot of liberals changed their fucking tune.

Brian Redban 51:43 (laughs)

Joe Rogan 51:44 I have quite a few friends-

Brian Redban 51:46 (laughs) Yeah.

Joe Rogan 51:46 ... who would never consider having a gun. I had a conversation with one of them yesterday. He's like, "I've never had a gun in my life, never considered a gun. I have a gun now." I'm like, "Yeah, that's probably smart."

Brian Redban 51:54 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 51:55 You know, better to have it and not to need it than to need it and not to have it.

Brian Redban 51:58 Right.

Joe Rogan 51:59 And, you know, I'm hoping people come together. I'm not hoping this turns into some crazy shootout in the streets. But, uh, I am, I'm happy that people understand why people wanted guns in the first place. You know? 'Cause these things can happen. And right now, nothing, nothing has happened, nothing really bad. But we're in a state of chaos. And states of chaos deteriorate or they go away. They don't, you know, it's not like this is the new normal, I don't think. If it's just like this, then great, we don't need any more guns basically, you know? It's like, you, you got a good amount of guns. It's not like everybody needs to go out and get a gun who never considered it before. But if it gets crazy, then you should have a gun.

Brian Redban 52:39 Right.

Joe Rogan 52:39 Right? Like, if you don't wanna have a gun, I don't think you should have to have a gun. But what are you gonna do if the whole thing completely falls apart? Imagine this scenario. How would you feel if there was only a few people in your neighborhood with guns and there was people that were coming in and robbing and killing people because we had gone all Walking Dead because the power had been off from the asteroid shower for six months, and there's no way to even tell these people are coming? But there's only two people on your block with guns. But there's 30 houses. Well, what the fuck are you gonna do? You only have two guns and there's 30 houses. That's not good.

Brian Redban 53:13 Right.

Joe Rogan 53:13 See, that's what people are scared of. What people are scared of, and maybe they're wrong, but the preppers right now are the ones laughing their asses off. The people with, you know, fucking jarred peaches and shit. Those people that you see on TV with their own well. They're laughing right now. They're laughing. They're, they're hoping it deteriorates even further 'cause they could take over. They could be the king.

Brian Redban 53:33 Yeah. I, I, uh, wish I had a gun right now.

Joe Rogan 53:36 (laughs)

Jamie Vernon 53:37 (laughs)

Brian Redban 53:37 Like, I, I have like e- a bunch of fake guns and I'm thinking... You know? (laughs)

Joe Rogan 53:41 Well, you, you never thought about having a gun before.

Brian Redban 53:43 Well, yeah, yeah. I mean, I, I'm one of those guys though that, you know, I didn't gr- grow up with guns, so they're kind of intimidating. And I feel like I'm somebody that one night would be wasted, and be like, "I'm gonna make a funny YouTube video." (imitates gunshot)

Joe Rogan 53:55 Oh, no.

Brian Redban 53:57 You know? (laughs)

Jamie Vernon 53:57 (laughs)

Joe Rogan 53:57 There are a lot of dorks who do that, that flash guns on Twitch and wind up shooting their monitor.

Brian Redban 54:00 Or it's like, trusting yourself, you know? It's like-

Joe Rogan 54:02 It's just, you, you, you know, the problem is you could just buy a gun if you're not a criminal, right? If you wanna drive a car, you gotta take a test. But a car is not specifically designed to kill someone. It can kill someone accidentally. It's not specifically designed to kill someone. A gun is specifically designed to kill-

Brian Redban 54:21 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 54:21 ... and you don't even have to fucking show you know how to use it.

Brian Redban 54:24 Right. That's a, that worries me too because that line by my house was a lot of middle-aged w- Karen's, you know? Like, like-

Joe Rogan 54:30 Mm-hmm.

Brian Redban 54:30 Oh, God. Do they train you there? Like, I don't even know the, the process. It seems like it shou- should go through, like, a training gun course.

Joe Rogan 54:37 You definitely should, and better not pull a prank on Karen.

Brian Redban 54:39 Right. (laughs)

Joe Rogan 54:40 Karen might be locked and loaded on f- 18 Adderalls.

Jamie Vernon 54:44 I wanna talk to the fucking manager. (laughs)

Brian Redban 54:45 (laughs)

Joe Rogan 54:45 You know? Pissing in her carpet because she's too scared to get up and she's sure that that sound is a serial killer making its way up her stairs. Meaning it's her cousin coming to check in on her. That kinda stuff happens.

Brian Redban 55:00 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 55:01 ... people are nuts, man. And you could just get a gun. If you're not a criminal, you don't, you don't have mental health problems, you could just get a gun. And, uh, you definitely should know how to use it. And it's just, there's two schools of thought. The Texas school of thought is a well-armed society is a polite society. And guess what? They're right in a lot of ways. That's right too. Another school of thought is, wouldn't it be great if no one had a gun and you never had to worry about getting shot? Yup, yup, that's good too. (laughs) Also, wouldn't it be great if the government was awesome and you knew they would never turn tyrannical on you? Yeah, that'd be good. Yeah, that'd be good. But that's not true, right? 'Cause the government's made out of people. And look at China. You know what, what's happening in China is happening here. Right? We all agree to that. We don't wanna live under a military dictatorship. I don't care how good it looks. That sounds terrible for us. We don't want that. So we know that's real. It's happening right now. Other people trapped in a country, they can't even use a real internet, right? They can't even, they can't even get on Twitter. They can't get on Facebook. Bryan Callen did a movie there. They took his phone away. They gave him a new phone with Chinese, uh, social media on it.

Guest (unidentified, friend/associate on mic) 56:09 Oh, shit.

Joe Rogan 56:09 And they're like, "You can use this. This is it."

Guest (unidentified, friend/associate on mic) 56:12 Wow.

Joe Rogan 56:12 They wouldn't let him on Twitter. He couldn't go on Instagram. Yeah.

Guest (unidentified, friend/associate on mic) 56:16 He needs a VPN.

Joe Rogan 56:17 It's, you can't work. It doesn't work. They block him over there.

Guest (unidentified, friend/associate on mic) 56:20 Oh, really? VPNs don't even work? Oh, shit.

Joe Rogan 56:20 Dude, they block everything over there. Apparently, w- some VPNs work in Hong Kong, but Hong Kong's not, you know, it's sort of a different situation than mainland China. Bro, it's, it's weird that people can live the way those Chinese people are under the fist of a, a government that, like, pulls people out of s- did you see those people that got dragged away 'cause they tested positive for corona?

Guest (unidentified, friend/associate on mic) 56:43 Mm-hmm.

Joe Rogan 56:43 Where are those, where are those people going? You know?

Guest (unidentified, friend/associate on mic) 56:46 Landfill. (laughs)

Joe Rogan 56:46 Yeah, who the fuck knows, man? That's happening at the same time as us, as we have so much freedom that people are, like, looking for shit to get upset about. You know? Like, taking some of Trump ... And Trump, no doubt, has said ridiculous shit. That's not my point. It's not, it's not that he's infallible and he's always right. It's that you're wasting time playing gotcha with the President of the United States in the middle of a pandemic. Like, why ... You know, yeah, he's gonna say dumb shit. Get used to it. But don't, don't harp on that. Let's figure out what the fuck needs to be done. That's what we need to figure out. And I don't think anybody knows. You know, they're waiting in New York for it to peak and so that's why they wanted all those ventilators. And they're gonna set up, they're gonna set up some things in parks and shit, in the Javits Center apparently they're gonna set up, uh, uh, some sort of a temporary hospital unit. Like, phew, this is crazy, man.

Guest (unidentified, friend/associate on mic) 57:45 It's really cool seeing all the manufacturing plants, like Tesla and stuff, making ventilators and c- converting their factories to make hand sanitizers-

Joe Rogan 57:52 Yes.

Guest (unidentified, friend/associate on mic) 57:52 ... and stuff like that.

Joe Rogan 57:53 People who know how to make masks and shit.

Guest (unidentified, friend/associate on mic) 57:55 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 57:55 And do-

Guest (unidentified, friend/associate on mic) 57:55 Printing masks.

Joe Rogan 57:56 Yeah.

Guest (unidentified, friend/associate on mic) 57:56 I, uh, uh, J- Jordy's, like, brother, her friend Jordy, uh, from-

Joe Rogan 57:59 From Comedy Central?

Guest (unidentified, friend/associate on mic) 58:00 Yeah. He, uh, I think it was Jordy, his brother is the one printing out, uh, the masks, uh, you know.

Joe Rogan 58:05 Oh, that's very cool. There's quite a few companies that are doing that.

Guest (unidentified, friend/associate on mic) 58:07 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 58:07 That's very cool.

Guest (unidentified, friend/associate on mic) 58:08 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 58:09 Yeah. Yeah, it's, um, phew, bro, weird times, to put it mildly, right?

Guest (unidentified, friend/associate on mic) 58:16 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 58:16 Nothing feels normal. You wake up in the morning, you're like, "How am I supposed to feel?"

Guest (unidentified, friend/associate on mic) 58:19 Wake up in the morning? What are you talk- I mean, like, now it's like I go tomorrow, I'm like, "Okay, nothing to do tomorrow at all. Uh, well, I guess I could just stay up all night and, you know, go to sleep when I want to." Like, no, I went to bed at, like, 9:00 in the morning.

Joe Rogan 58:31 (laughs)

Guest (unidentified, friend/associate on mic) 58:31 I just played VR all night and ate mushrooms. Like, (laughs) right now, eating mushrooms is a little too crazy though. I wish, uh, like, halfway through I was like, "This is, like, I'm," th- where you're going and thinking-

Joe Rogan 58:42 Yeah.

Guest (unidentified, friend/associate on mic) 58:42 ... you know. Uh, it was a little st- a little rough.

Joe Rogan 58:45 We just have to know that this, now we know that this can happen. Now we know. We didn't know. We, we weren't getting all the information. But just, the things that also are deadly that also affect so many people, like that list that I read off, is that right? Is any of that shit I read right? What do you think?

Guest (unidentified, friend/associate on mic) 59:08 It seems like it would be.

Joe Rogan 59:10 (laughs)

Guest (unidentified, friend/associate on mic) 59:10 But, I mean, nowadays, like, you get all these, like, doctor lists on Facebook. You never know what's real and what's not.

Joe Rogan 59:14 This is from a v- a friend of mine who's a legitimate doctor. Is that correct? Are those numbers correct? We should probably say. Let's, uh, let's Google the numbers again. So what did I say? We'll start off with the first one. The first one was, um, Michael Yo apparently put out a video today.

Guest (unidentified, friend/associate on mic) 59:32 Oh, did he?

Joe Rogan 59:33 Yeah. He's back. Okay, let's look at this one, the 2017 to 2018 H2N3 virus pandemic-

Guest (unidentified, friend/associate on mic) 59:43 Oh.

Joe Rogan 59:43 ... that killed 61,000 Americans.

Guest (unidentified, friend/associate on mic) 59:45 I was looking that up. The hardest part with that right now is those numbers have been accumulated over a year plus, and we only have had a month-

Joe Rogan 59:53 Sure, yeah.

Guest (unidentified, friend/associate on mic) 59:53 ... for whatever, to collect these numbers right now.

Joe Rogan 59:54 Yeah, I mean, it even says 2017-2018.

Guest (unidentified, friend/associate on mic) 59:57 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 59:57 But over a year, it killed 61,000 people. Now, the other one was the big one at the end, the flu for this year, for 2020.

Guest (unidentified, friend/associate on mic) 1:00:08 Oh, the flu.

Joe Rogan 1:00:09 Cases reported, 45 million.

Guest (unidentified, friend/associate on mic) 1:00:12 Wow.

Joe Rogan 1:00:13 Hospitalizations, 415,000. Deaths, 48,000.

Guest (unidentified, friend/associate on mic) 1:00:18 Hm. That's worldwide?

Joe Rogan 1:00:20 No, that's the United States.

Guest (unidentified, friend/associate on mic) 1:00:21 Oh, really?

Joe Rogan 1:00:22 Yeah.

Guest (unidentified, friend/associate on mic) 1:00:23 Wow.

Joe Rogan 1:00:24 I know. That's what I'm saying.

Guest (unidentified, friend/associate on mic) 1:00:25 I haven't even heard about the flu this year.

Joe Rogan 1:00:27 Well, that's the thing. It's like-

Guest (unidentified, friend/associate on mic) 1:00:29 (laughs)

Joe Rogan 1:00:29 ... it's not sexy 'cause it happens every year.

Guest (unidentified, friend/associate on mic) 1:00:31 (laughs) Right.

Joe Rogan 1:00:32 You know? It's like the sky monster. If the sky monster never appeared before and then one day the first tornado hit and tore apart Nashville, we'd be like, "What in the fuck is ... God's mad at us." Right? That's how they used to feel back in the-

Guest (unidentified, friend/associate on mic) 1:00:44 That's just one person's case. I r- remember last week, I read someone that got tested for the flu and they tested positive, and then weeks later got tested for the COVID-19 and then tested positive for that. But they weren't tested for COVID at the time. They were tested for the flu because they didn't have a test.

Joe Rogan 1:00:58 Right.

Guest (unidentified, friend/associate on mic) 1:00:58 So there could be a lot of people that tested positive for the flu maybe that-

Joe Rogan 1:01:02 Sure.

Guest (unidentified, friend/associate on mic) 1:01:03 ... never had a COVID-19 test.

Joe Rogan 1:01:04 Yeah. Could be. Yeah, I mean-... do they... I mean, (sighs) it, I guess, it depends on whether or not they have the test available in different places too, right?

Jamie Vernon 1:01:15 I'm just now reading too. There's a new, new test that just got, just made today that's faster results.

Brian Redban 1:01:20 Oh, yeah. Yeah.

Jamie Vernon 1:01:20 Like, two weeks or something like that.

Brian Redban 1:01:20 There's a five-minute test, like, it's like an Easy-Bake Oven of testing.

Joe Rogan 1:01:24 Jamie, what are we gonna do if you test positive?

Brian Redban 1:01:26 Oh, yeah.

Jamie Vernon 1:01:26 I don't know.

Joe Rogan 1:01:28 Yeah. You're in contact, bro.

Jamie Vernon 1:01:29 I already have it then. It means-

Joe Rogan 1:01:31 Oh.

Jamie Vernon 1:01:31 ... I... Could be 'cause I'm testing positive doesn't mean-

Joe Rogan 1:01:34 Right. Could be.

Jamie Vernon 1:01:34 You know, so it means it's-

Joe Rogan 1:01:35 You're out there spreading it. (laughs)

Brian Redban 1:01:37 Carrier. Get outta here. (laughs)

Joe Rogan 1:01:38 Son of a bitch.

Jamie Vernon 1:01:39 Son of a bitch. Yeah.

Brian Redban 1:01:39 (laughs)

Jamie Vernon 1:01:39 Don't pet my dog, you fuck.

Joe Rogan 1:01:41 Oh, that's too late. I didn't even think of that.

Brian Redban 1:01:43 (laughs)

Jamie Vernon 1:01:43 I don't... They sent the email out, it was yesterday or Saturday, I guess. So like-

Joe Rogan 1:01:48 Ah. It's too late.

Jamie Vernon 1:01:48 ... they had to... When the fuck did they get it?

Brian Redban 1:01:50 Right.

Jamie Vernon 1:01:50 That's when they got it to the hospital and called the apartment building-

Joe Rogan 1:01:53 Mm-hmm.

Jamie Vernon 1:01:53 ... and said, "Hey, you might wanna let everybody know." It's like-

Joe Rogan 1:01:54 Are you washing your hands a lot? You guys doing the whole thing?

Brian Redban 1:01:56 Oh, yeah.

Joe Rogan 1:01:57 I'm washing the shit outta my hands. My hands are annoyed at me.

Brian Redban 1:01:59 My hands are dried.

Joe Rogan 1:02:00 They're like, "What are you doing?"

Brian Redban 1:02:01 L- I'm lucky I got some, uh, hand sanitizer, like...

Joe Rogan 1:02:04 Oh, before the-

Brian Redban 1:02:05 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 1:02:05 ... the crash?

Brian Redban 1:02:06 Right, right before it happened, the crash, uh, I was, uh, opening up for Tom Green in San Diego. And Tom Green was the first person that I knew, that was kind of, like, panicking a little. Like, he was like, "I just bought a crate of Lysol, mini Lysols," and he was spraying the microphone down on stage.

Joe Rogan 1:02:20 Whoa.

Brian Redban 1:02:20 And like, and I was like, "He's taking it a little, uh, overboard." Literally, like, a week later s- everyone's doing that. Like, I-

Joe Rogan 1:02:27 Tom Green, ahead of the curve.

Brian Redban 1:02:28 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 1:02:28 Yeah. Fuck. It's, uh, it's spooky, dude. Who was it that had a friend? Was it Tom Papa, whose friend was warning him long in advance? No. It wasn't Tom Papa. It was Bert Kreischer. Bert Kreischer had a friend who was warning him way in advance, "Listen, you need to isolate. You need to get your family out." And he was like, "What?" It was Bert, right?

Jamie Vernon 1:02:50 Yeah. Yeah.

Brian Redban 1:02:50 Put a shirt on.

Joe Rogan 1:02:51 Yeah. Take your shirt on-

Brian Redban 1:02:53 (laughs)

Joe Rogan 1:02:53 ... put your shirt back on. You're, uh, just... You need to isolate quickly. Get away from everybody 'cause it's gonna spread right through America. And he was like, "What?" And this was apparently in February. And he was like, "This lady's crazy."

Brian Redban 1:03:03 Wow.

Joe Rogan 1:03:04 And then he texted her, like, in the beginning of March when it was on and popping. He's like, "You're right." My point about, uh, showing those numbers was not to diminish the impact of, uh, this current pandemic. It was just to highlight the fact that, uh, we live in a war zone. We live in a v- a virus war zone that takes out thousands of people every year in this country. And I don't think most of us are really keeping our eye on that, you know? Like, you hear about deaths by the flu and, you know, they're never sh- they're never shocking. Deaths by some new thing for some reason, even if it's the same number of deaths or less even, right? So far, less. Freak us the fuck out.

Brian Redban 1:03:49 It seems like it's happening more though, like, if you go on TMZ, it's like somebody dies every day. Like, this old-

Joe Rogan 1:03:53 Mm-hmm.

Brian Redban 1:03:53 ... you know, philosopher or this old poet or this old musician.

Joe Rogan 1:03:57 Yeah.

Brian Redban 1:03:57 And, like, you never hear about it in the past, like, "Oh, he died of the flu. That guy died of the flu." "That guy died of the flu."

Joe Rogan 1:04:02 Here we go. Jamie just pulled something up. A total of 19,543 laboratory confirmed influenza-associated hospitalizations were reported bl- by Fluserv-NET, uh, sites between October 2019 and March 21, 2020. 41,100, 72.1% were associated with influenza A virus.

Jamie Vernon 1:04:26 40,000.

Joe Rogan 1:04:26 What's that?

Jamie Vernon 1:04:26 That's like 14,000.

Joe Rogan 1:04:27 14,000? What did I say?

Jamie Vernon 1:04:29 41.

Joe Rogan 1:04:29 Oh, whoops. Uh, what am I, dyslectic?

Brian Redban 1:04:31 (laughs)

Joe Rogan 1:04:32 Um, influenza... Okay, uh, 5,335, 27.3% with influenza B. That's true too, right? If you get an influenza A shot and y- it's influenza B, you might catch it anyway. That's annoying. Um, so that's a lot of people, right? So, we got 19,500 and 5,300 and 4,000... 14,100. Yeah.

Brian Redban 1:04:58 My theory is that you're s- you, you were born sucking your thumb. You were supposed to suck your thumb your whole life and it was supposed to keep your immune system strong so that it would fight all these things.

Joe Rogan 1:05:06 Look at the hospitalization rate was 67.3% per... Oh, no. 67.3 per 100,000 population, which is higher than all recent seasons, except for the 2017 and 2018 season. Rates in children zero to four years old and adults 18 to 49 are now the highest CDC has on record for these age groups, surpassing the rate reported during the 2009 H1N1 pandemic. Hospitalization rates for school-aged children are higher than any recent regular season, but lower than rates during the pandemic. What... So, what happened in 2009 when the H1N1 kicked in and killed all those people? They didn't shut anything down.

Jamie Vernon 1:05:47 When... I think what I've been hearing r- is like, after 1,000 people died is when things started changing and I don't, I don't re- really remember what was changing back then. I don't remember much-

Joe Rogan 1:05:56 I, I don't either.

Jamie Vernon 1:05:56 ... happening.

Joe Rogan 1:05:56 Do you remember?

Brian Redban 1:05:57 No, it's s-

Joe Rogan 1:05:58 We should talk to Bert again.

Brian Redban 1:05:59 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 1:05:59 Bert had it.

Jamie Vernon 1:06:01 Me too?

Joe Rogan 1:06:01 He had the H1N1.

Brian Redban 1:06:02 He did?

Joe Rogan 1:06:02 Yeah, he did. Yeah. He, he said it was the sickest he's ever been in his life. Um, and it was 2009 when it was all going down and he said he couldn't sleep. He was so uncomfortable. He was in just constant pain and aching. He said he'd never, never felt sicker ever in his life. And that killed a lot of people.

Brian Redban 1:06:19 I've had a flu like that before where, you know, you're just-

Joe Rogan 1:06:22 Mm-hmm.

Brian Redban 1:06:22 ... puking shit in. You can't hold anything in. You're sweating. You're waking up, you know...

Joe Rogan 1:06:27 Was that 2009?

Brian Redban 1:06:28 I don't think it was. I, I, I feel like it was, like, five years ago or something like that. Six years ago.

Joe Rogan 1:06:33 They can get you. They can get you. I hope another thing that comes out of here is people take their fucking immune system more seriously.

Brian Redban 1:06:39 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 1:06:39 Support your immune system, you know? I mean, if this makes a big... Just a little shift in the number of people that get healthy, a little shift in the numb- number of people that start taking vitamins and exercising and, you know... Just do something, man. Something. Put a heavy backpack on, go for a walk. Do something. Listen to a podcast. Oh, I'm listening to this, uh, Aaron Hernandez podcast.

Brian Redban 1:07:00 Oh.

Joe Rogan 1:07:01 Wondery has this podcast called Gladiator about Aaron Hernandez. Holy shit. First of all, it's a great podcast. You ever listen to Wondery?

Brian Redban 1:07:09 Mm-mm.

Joe Rogan 1:07:09 They know what they're doing, man. They, they... It's, like, really good editing and sound editing. And they, they put depth to it with all these different sound effects and stuff, and different, just different people's, uh, interviews and discussions of people that knew Aaron Hernandez. Holy fuck, what a crazy story.

Brian Redban 1:07:24 Hmm.... did you wa- you watched the tiger thing, obviously.

Joe Rogan 1:07:27 I've only watched one part of one episode.

Brian Redban 1:07:29 Oh, okay.

Joe Rogan 1:07:30 I'm saving it.

Brian Redban 1:07:30 I'm surprised.

Joe Rogan 1:07:31 I know.

Brian Redban 1:07:31 I went through all episodes-

Joe Rogan 1:07:33 But-

Brian Redban 1:07:33 ... in one sitting last night.

Joe Rogan 1:07:34 You gotta understand, I have gone down so many tiger rabbit holes, I'm terrified-

Brian Redban 1:07:39 (laughs)

Joe Rogan 1:07:39 ... to start another one. You remember I... that whole bit that I had about Texas-

Brian Redban 1:07:42 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 1:07:42 ... and tigers from Triggered?

Brian Redban 1:07:44 Mm-hmm.

Joe Rogan 1:07:44 Dude, I went on a rabbit hole of tiger owners and, and people that own tigers in their backyard because of that.

Brian Redban 1:07:49 That's why I think you're gonna love it, like you loved-

Joe Rogan 1:07:50 I can't.

Brian Redban 1:07:50 ... the Wild West, it's-

Joe Rogan 1:07:51 I wrote that bit already.

Brian Redban 1:07:53 ... like that time Billy. Yeah, I know. (laughs)

Joe Rogan 1:07:53 That bit's done. (laughs)

Brian Redban 1:07:54 I know, but you've gotta see this. It's every person's... and, and there's so many twists and turns that you're like, "This is not real life. This is not-"

Joe Rogan 1:08:01 Oh, yeah.

Brian Redban 1:08:01 "... this didn't happen." Like...

Joe Rogan 1:08:02 But it did.

Brian Redban 1:08:03 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 1:08:03 Yeah. I... Listen, I have all the faith in the world that white trash people can be unbelievable. (laughs)

Brian Redban 1:08:09 Hi. Yeah, but you, there's n- there's mo- so much more to it that's, like, insane that we haven't heard of this guy before. Like, I don't, like-

Joe Rogan 1:08:17 I know, right?

Brian Redban 1:08:18 Like, he, he also had an internet show for... uh, during all of this, like an Alex Jones-type internet show.

Joe Rogan 1:08:22 Mm-hmm.

Brian Redban 1:08:22 I feel like I would've seen it because his name... it was, like, Joe TV. And I'm like, "Of course, back in the day."

Joe Rogan 1:08:26 Joe Exotic TV, right?

Brian Redban 1:08:27 Yeah. But-

Joe Rogan 1:08:27 Is that what it is?

Brian Redban 1:08:28 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 1:08:28 Now, did he have it on YouTube, or did he only have it on his website?

Brian Redban 1:08:31 I, I think he had it on Ustream back when they did it like we did.

Joe Rogan 1:08:33 Whoa.

Brian Redban 1:08:34 That's what I'm saying, like, how did we not see this?

Joe Rogan 1:08:36 No shit.

Brian Redban 1:08:36 But I could be wrong. But, uh, yeah.

Joe Rogan 1:08:39 People didn't care that much back then about people living with tigers.

Brian Redban 1:08:42 Oh.

Joe Rogan 1:08:42 (laughs)

Brian Redban 1:08:43 Sh- Shaquille O' Neal.

Jamie Vernon 1:08:44 2011 Louis... You might have already seen some of this stuff and not known it.

Joe Rogan 1:08:47 Louis Theroux?

Jamie Vernon 1:08:48 Yeah, he did a documentary with Joe Exotic.

Joe Rogan 1:08:50 Oh, did Joe Exotic have his legs back then or no?

Jamie Vernon 1:08:52 Joe had his legs the whole time. That was, uh, one of the guys that worked for him-

Brian Redban 1:08:55 Oh, yeah.

Jamie Vernon 1:08:55 ... that lost his legs, but yeah.

Joe Rogan 1:08:56 Oh.

Jamie Vernon 1:08:57 He does the whole hour-long, like-

Joe Rogan 1:08:59 Wow.

Jamie Vernon 1:08:59 ... full documentary with him.

Brian Redban 1:09:01 Oh, no shit.

Jamie Vernon 1:09:01 Yeah.

Brian Redban 1:09:02 I'd like to see that. Yeah, I got obsessed with him last night, I just, you know, added him on Instagram, looking back at all the photos.

Joe Rogan 1:09:08 Dude, Louis Theroux is the shit. His documentaries are so good. He's absolutely one of my favorite, because he's got this style of talking to people that eventually annoys them into yelling at him. (laughs)

Brian Redban 1:09:22 (laughs)

Joe Rogan 1:09:22 Whether it's, whether it's the, uh, Westboro Baptist Church or, um, my favorite one was this, uh... he was at this wild game park in Africa where people go over there and, like, shoot rhinos and, you know, they, they, they s- they pay X amount for that and Y amount for this. And he interviews these people in these wild game parks and he stays there for, like, three weeks and eventually just annoys this guy to the point where the guy snaps and does this rant about Africa, about the only way that these animals are ever gonna survive is if there were something. He's like, "Africa is fucked." And the way he was saying it to him was, like, this really intense speech that he gave to through, like, all Theroux's annoying him for all those days-

Brian Redban 1:10:05 (laughs)

Joe Rogan 1:10:05 ... and standing by him like, "So you're about to feed the tiger?"

Brian Redban 1:10:08 Oh, God.

Joe Rogan 1:10:09 Wasn't tigers, but he had lions.

Brian Redban 1:10:11 Right.

Joe Rogan 1:10:11 And they were throwing... they, uh... like, a dead cow and they threw it overboard. They was throwing these chunks over the fence and these lions would just tear it apart and I'm like, "Oh, my God." And he's there standing there watching this through, like, two fences. With... then there's a pickup truck and you