The Joe Rogan ExperienceJoe Rogan Experience #1452 - Greg Fitzsimmons
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150 min read · 30,003 words- 0:00 – 1:02
Quarantine horniness & bathroom “privacy” hacks
- JRJoe Rogan
(taps table) Gregory, how you holding up?
- GFGreg Fitzsimmons
I am holding it up.
- JRJoe Rogan
(laughs)
- GFGreg Fitzsimmons
Uh, although, not as much as I would like to be holding it up. Like, that's the, I think that's a lot, uh, people are talking about all the different constraints of this, uh, pandemic. Masturbation has gone by the wayside for a lot of people. If you live in a two-bedroom apartment and you got two kids-
- JRJoe Rogan
Hmm.
- GFGreg Fitzsimmons
... you know?
- JRJoe Rogan
You're gonna have to jerk off while you're shitting.
- GFGreg Fitzsimmons
(laughs)
- JRJoe Rogan
It's... (laughs)
- GFGreg Fitzsimmons
(laughs)
- JRJoe Rogan
That's the only time you have.
- GFGreg Fitzsimmons
That's a lot of toilet paper you're wasting.
- JRJoe Rogan
Bring your phone in there with you. Bring your phone in there with you.
- GFGreg Fitzsimmons
(laughs)
- JRJoe Rogan
Set up some YouPorn on the ledge.
- GFGreg Fitzsimmons
Yeah, right.
- JRJoe Rogan
(laughs)
- GFGreg Fitzsimmons
And you gotta land it just right and you gotta let it squirt and then come down between your legs into the water.
- JRJoe Rogan
You gotta point down. You gotta hurt yourself. You gotta (grunts) .
- GFGreg Fitzsimmons
You gotta go overhand.
- JRJoe Rogan
Yeah, like you're going deep into third gear. (imitates engine revving)
- GFGreg Fitzsimmons
(laughs)
- JRJoe Rogan
(laughs)
- GFGreg Fitzsimmons
I gotta Hurst. (laughs)
- JRJoe Rogan
A Hurst.
- 1:02 – 3:18
The bath/shower ‘egg drop soup’ horror stories
- GFGreg Fitzsimmons
(laughs) Yeah, that's the thing is, like... And I've never been a shower guy. Uh, and especially now that I'm fif- I'll be 54 on, uh-
- JRJoe Rogan
You're a bath guy?
- GFGreg Fitzsimmons
... Wednesday. (laughs) I'm a bath guy. (laughs)
- JRJoe Rogan
(laughs)
- GFGreg Fitzsimmons
No, I meant for jerking off.
- JRJoe Rogan
(laughs)
- GFGreg Fitzsimmons
Can you imagine? I remember jerking off in the bath once and it just-
- JRJoe Rogan
Ugh.
- GFGreg Fitzsimmons
... floated.
- JRJoe Rogan
Oh, it's fucking egg drop soup.
- GFGreg Fitzsimmons
It floated around. (laughs)
- JRJoe Rogan
(laughs) It's terrible.
- GFGreg Fitzsimmons
Who ordered egg drop jism?
- JRJoe Rogan
Cooking. It's, it's fucking floating. Ugh.
- GFGreg Fitzsimmons
And, uh-
- JRJoe Rogan
It's cooking, right?
- GFGreg Fitzsimmons
I remember once I was at my, um, my brother-in-law's apartment in New York, he lives in New York City, and we played midnight hockey in Central Park. He played in this league and you'd go out and it was fucking February. We went out, it was like 20, 20 degrees out, and we played hockey for an hour and a half in Central Park. You know they have rinks out there?
- JRJoe Rogan
Right.
- GFGreg Fitzsimmons
Wollman Rink. And we come back and I, and I was out of shape, but this, but this guy's, like, a hockey fanatic, so I wanted to do it. So I come back and I was like, "I gotta take a bath." So I go into the bath and, uh, and they're fucking slobs. There's three brothers living together in an apartment. So I go in the bathroom and, uh, I fill it up, I get in, and I'm laying there and I'm fucking chilling out. I'm like, "Oh, this feels so good." (laughs) And then I see this egg drop soup and I realize, like, they all jerk off in the shower.
- JRJoe Rogan
Ugh.
- GFGreg Fitzsimmons
And it was just floating, and I was like, "Ah!" And I just, like, jumped up.
- JRJoe Rogan
(laughs)
- GFGreg Fitzsimmons
I fucking showered for, like, 45 minutes. (laughs)
- JRJoe Rogan
It's so weird that we're more terrified of jizz than virtually any other body part. Like, if I had a choice between a guy jizzing on my pants or peeing on my pants, I'd say peeing all day.
- GFGreg Fitzsimmons
Oh, yeah.
- JRJoe Rogan
Right? But w-
- GFGreg Fitzsimmons
Absolutely.
- JRJoe Rogan
But isn't that hilarious? Isn't that weird? It's like we've decided that one fluid coming out of the dick is, uh, associated with pleasure, male pleasure, dirty men trying to come. Ugh. (imitates flatulence)
- GFGreg Fitzsimmons
(laughs)
- JRJoe Rogan
And, like, to have that on you is like, "He got you! That guy got you with his seed!" Yeah.
- 3:18 – 4:50
Teen woods stories, gender differences, and why forests feel scary
- GFGreg Fitzsimmons
My friends have peed on me. It's happened.
- JRJoe Rogan
(laughs)
- GFGreg Fitzsimmons
You know? We, when we were-
- JRJoe Rogan
Yeah, if you're out in the woods.
- GFGreg Fitzsimmons
We were out in the woods and we were at a, uh, we were at a fort. We had this fort when we were teenagers. We were, like, 13, and we were, we were already drinking and smoking a lot of pot when we were, like, 13. And, uh, we were in this fort and we all got shit-faced and then my friend just pulled his dick out (imitates flatulence) and he started peeing on all of us.
- JRJoe Rogan
(laughs)
- GFGreg Fitzsimmons
(laughs)
- JRJoe Rogan
(claps)
- GFGreg Fitzsimmons
And I remember having to go home that night and, like, my jeans were drenched in piss. It wasn't even mine. Of course my mother thought it was me.
- JRJoe Rogan
God. That really is the difference between men and women. Girls don't go out and pee on each other, do they?
- GFGreg Fitzsimmons
No. No.
- JRJoe Rogan
They rarely go in the woods by themselves anyway.
- GFGreg Fitzsimmons
Right.
- JRJoe Rogan
Right?
- GFGreg Fitzsimmons
Yeah.
- JRJoe Rogan
Just a group of girls in the woods? That's a horror movie. You're not supposed to do that.
- GFGreg Fitzsimmons
Yeah. Girls-
- JRJoe Rogan
A group of guys in the woods, that's normal shit.
- GFGreg Fitzsimmons
Right.
- JRJoe Rogan
A group of girls in the woods is like, "What are you girls doing out here? You gotta, it's gotta go... Do you have a gun?"
- GFGreg Fitzsimmons
Yeah.
- JRJoe Rogan
You can't just be in the woods.
- GFGreg Fitzsimmons
Yeah.
- JRJoe Rogan
Isn't it weird that the woods make everything scarier? Everything.
- GFGreg Fitzsimmons
That's where like all the grim fairy tales start, right?
- JRJoe Rogan
Yes. Well, it's all, well, wolves would eat people in the woods.
- GFGreg Fitzsimmons
Yeah. Right.
- JRJoe Rogan
That's what it was.
- GFGreg Fitzsimmons
Yeah.
- JRJoe Rogan
That's where all the Little Red Riding Hood, like, y- we don't have to deal with that anymore, so we kind of forgot what, what can happen.
- 4:50 – 9:04
Coyotes in the suburbs: Joe’s chicken-coop tragedy and predator tactics
- JRJoe Rogan
Everything's scarier in the woods. We've escaped the woods. We got some nice hard surfaces and some street lights and I feel pretty good about it. I feel like we've, we're fucking holding our ground here. But every now and then a coyote will run across Burbank Boulevard.
- GFGreg Fitzsimmons
Yeah, that's right.
- JRJoe Rogan
Every now and then a coyote is on Olive Street, just looking around, trying to see what kinda, kinda action he can get in this part of town.
- GFGreg Fitzsimmons
(laughs)
- JRJoe Rogan
Shh. Those fucking creeps.
- GFGreg Fitzsimmons
It's like, uh, the Road Runner. It's like-
- JRJoe Rogan
Dude.
- GFGreg Fitzsimmons
... "Oh, the fucking coyote, man. Watch out. He's got some Acme shit."
- JRJoe Rogan
Except in the, in the Road Runner, the coyote never wins.
- GFGreg Fitzsimmons
Yeah.
- JRJoe Rogan
In real life, they always win.
- GFGreg Fitzsimmons
Of course.
- JRJoe Rogan
They win every time. They beat me and they killed all my chickens, dude.
- GFGreg Fitzsimmons
Mm.
- JRJoe Rogan
All of them. They got them all.
- GFGreg Fitzsimmons
This was here and-
- JRJoe Rogan
Yeah.
- GFGreg Fitzsimmons
Wow.
- JRJoe Rogan
Yeah. They killed-
- GFGreg Fitzsimmons
You had fencing?
- JRJoe Rogan
Yes. They got in, they broke into the chicken coop. They killed nine chickens, the last remaining nine chickens. They killed, they pluck- plucked them off one at a time.
- GFGreg Fitzsimmons
Damn.
- JRJoe Rogan
With- Yeah, with help from my dog at one point in time. My mastiff became friends with a coyote. (sighs) And he's way bigger than them, so they used him to break into the chicken coop. So he broke into the chicken coop and the coyotes got in the chicken coop with the dog. Like, they literally tricked the dog into breaking into the chicken coop.
- GFGreg Fitzsimmons
I wonder if the mastiff got shit from other mastiffs, like, "Dude, you're friends with coyotes?"
- JRJoe Rogan
Well, you know, he just got tricked. He thought they were dogs.
- GFGreg Fitzsimmons
Yeah.
- JRJoe Rogan
He thought they were his friends.
- GFGreg Fitzsimmons
Right.
- JRJoe Rogan
And my other dog's kind of an asshole, and they don't get along that good. They're both gone now, unfortunately. They were 13.
- GFGreg Fitzsimmons
Yeah.
- 9:04 – 12:43
Baboons, stolen puppies, and Sapolsky’s ‘kinder baboon’ social shift
- GFGreg Fitzsimmons
Dude, we were in South Africa one time, and we're, we're taking a hike down to the, uh, the Cape of Good Hope, which is like the point, it's like the western point of Africa. And, uh, they have baboons there. It's like a-
- JRJoe Rogan
(laughs)
- GFGreg Fitzsimmons
... baboon-fucking forest.
- JRJoe Rogan
(laughs)
- GFGreg Fitzsimmons
And so we were like, "Should we ..." We s- There's a park ranger there and we're like, "Should we be scared?" And he's like, "You guys are fine, but if you put your ..." My son at the time was about three or four. He's like, "If you put him down, they're gonna take him." (laughs) Just like that. And we were like, "Fuck."
- JRJoe Rogan
Could you imagine-
- GFGreg Fitzsimmons
So we carried him all the way down.
- JRJoe Rogan
... watching your baby gets snatched by a baboon-
- GFGreg Fitzsimmons
Hmm.
- JRJoe Rogan
... which is like a dog monkey.
- GFGreg Fitzsimmons
Yeah.
- JRJoe Rogan
Right? They're the weirdest ones.
- GFGreg Fitzsimmons
Yeah.
- JRJoe Rogan
'Cause they kind of have like a dog face almost.
- GFGreg Fitzsimmons
Yeah.
- JRJoe Rogan
And giant canines.
- GFGreg Fitzsimmons
Right.
- JRJoe Rogan
Do you know they're so smart that they train dogs?
- GFGreg Fitzsimmons
Baboons do?
- JRJoe Rogan
Baboons train dogs.
- GFGreg Fitzsimmons
Oh, no shit.
- JRJoe Rogan
They steal puppies, they bring the puppies into their little camp and they feed them, and that way the puppy barks whenever anything's coming near so they can go to sleep.
- GFGreg Fitzsimmons
Whoa. No shit.
- JRJoe Rogan
Dude. And they eat babies.
- GFGreg Fitzsimmons
Yeah. Damn.
- JRJoe Rogan
What? What the fuck, man? It's crazy video too. You see these, uh, baboons dragging these puppies by their tail, just dragging them. And then they try, puppy tries to get away, "Sit the fuck down." Just put ... And then the puppy doesn't know what to do. The puppy's yiping. They give him some food. Bro, they're like little demons.
- GFGreg Fitzsimmons
Shit.
- JRJoe Rogan
They train dogs.
- GFGreg Fitzsimmons
They're strong as shit too.
- JRJoe Rogan
They're super strong. There's a really, really interesting, um, guy out of, uh, Stanford, uh, Professor Robert Sapolsky. And, uh, we were really fortunate enough to get him to talk on the podcast about, um, a bunch of different things, one of them being parasites that control behavior of, uh, certain, uh, animals and cats and stuff called toxoplasmosis. But another thing is that he studied baboons for like a long time, like years he studied the same pack. He would go back to Africa and study these same baboons over and over again. And while he was studying them, there was a case where a really crazy thing had happened where poisoned food had gotten into the dump and these, uh, baboons had eaten the poisoned food. And because the alphas always ate first, they got the poisoned food and they died off.
- 12:43 – 16:42
Humans as an evolving animal: chimps, Neanderthals, and ‘future humans’
- JRJoe Rogan
And they, they took over the society. That happens in all sorts of ecosystems. We have this idea that the males have to dominate because we dominate now.
- GFGreg Fitzsimmons
Right.
- JRJoe Rogan
But in nature ... Like, we're, we are not a single-celled organism, right? We're not a primate that has f- hair all over its body anymore. We're some new thing. Well, we became this new thing because we adapted, right? Something happened. There was natural selection, there was, uh, random mutations, and then boom, human being in 2020. But that doesn't mean it's the same thing as a human being in 3020 or f- 4020 or 10,020. We, we might be turning into a totally different thing. And it seems like we are to me. I mean, if you just look at the difference between, like, uh, like this, this, uh, dope-ass chimpanzee skull, um, that, uh, um, this dude made for me, man. Uh, Shane Against the Machine-
- GFGreg Fitzsimmons
It's awesome.
- JRJoe Rogan
... on Instagram. He made that, uh, army helmet head too, but the point is, like, this thing is fucking way stronger than us.
- GFGreg Fitzsimmons
Yeah.
- JRJoe Rogan
This thing is like ... It might look kind of like us, but it would tear us to pieces.
- GFGreg Fitzsimmons
Mm-hmm.
- JRJoe Rogan
Like, it's i- ... Even if it's, like, close to the same weight as us, it's so impossibly strong.
- GFGreg Fitzsimmons
Right.
- JRJoe Rogan
Like, I can't even imagine it. So, we're not that anymore.
- GFGreg Fitzsimmons
Right.
- JRJoe Rogan
Something happened. Something happened, right? Something ha- ... We, we stopped being this ridiculously strong, murderous omnivore.
- GFGreg Fitzsimmons
Right.
- JRJoe Rogan
And we became a human being, which seems to be way more calm except in big bursts of rage. You know, mass shootings and-
- GFGreg Fitzsimmons
Well, it's like in the, in that book Sapien, when, when we went from being, uh, was it, Neanderthal to, to, uh, homo sapien, that they, they existed at the same time-
- JRJoe Rogan
Yes. Yeah.
- GFGreg Fitzsimmons
... and that actually the, the Neanderthal is way stronger, way faster, bigger-
- JRJoe Rogan
Yeah.
- GFGreg Fitzsimmons
... but-
- JRJoe Rogan
Big brain too.
- GFGreg Fitzsimmons
Oh, did it have a bigger brain?
- JRJoe Rogan
Yeah, I think.
- GFGreg Fitzsimmons
So, wait, so I thought that-
- JRJoe Rogan
Is that true?
- GFGreg Fitzsimmons
I thought the sapiens-
- JRJoe Rogan
I don't think that's true.
- GFGreg Fitzsimmons
I thought homo sapiens out-thunk, out-thought, out-thunk.
- JRJoe Rogan
I think they think they did because I, I think they think that the, uh, larger brain, if I remember correctly, was correct, uh, connected to the mass of the bodies. The bodies were very massive.
- GFGreg Fitzsimmons
Right.
- 16:42 – 19:17
Computers ‘taking over’ and COVID compliance as a mass-behavior test
- JRJoe Rogan
Do you remember that Matthew Broderick movie, War Games?
- GFGreg Fitzsimmons
No.
- JRJoe Rogan
Do you want to play a game? He was, like, you know, computer console.
- GFGreg Fitzsimmons
Oh, right, right, right. Yeah.
- JRJoe Rogan
Thermonuclear war.
- GFGreg Fitzsimmons
Yeah.
- JRJoe Rogan
Like, he, he played thermonuclear war with a computer.
- GFGreg Fitzsimmons
Yeah.
- JRJoe Rogan
That's when I remember that's what people thought. Like, "Oh, my God. Computers are gonna take over."
- GFGreg Fitzsimmons
Yeah.
- JRJoe Rogan
They were kind of right. They just didn't see it coming like this.
- GFGreg Fitzsimmons
What do you mean kind of?
- JRJoe Rogan
There is-
- GFGreg Fitzsimmons
You don't think they're ...
- JRJoe Rogan
Oh, yeah. They're definitely right. Um, I just, it's not like, uh, computers are starting nuclear wars and tricking society.
- GFGreg Fitzsimmons
Right.
- JRJoe Rogan
But once, once they do, once they realize how fucked up our priorities are ... (laughs) You know, once, uh, once computers ... One thing you have to say about, though, this coronavirus thing, this is a good example of people who are n- at least ... Like, the compliance of the, the, the country, the total compliance, it's not perfect, but it's pretty fucking incredible.
- GFGreg Fitzsimmons
Right.
- JRJoe Rogan
Pretty fucking incredible. You got the whole country to shut down for a month for a virus and just kinda hang out and just n- no one goes anywhere. You go to the supermarket, minimal movement. You know?
- GFGreg Fitzsimmons
A couple states.
- JRJoe Rogan
You just chill. Yeah.
- GFGreg Fitzsimmons
A couple states are holding out.
- JRJoe Rogan
Couple states.
- GFGreg Fitzsimmons
I think Mississippi is like, "Fuck it. We gonna keep on living the way we do."
- JRJoe Rogan
(laughs) I think it was Alabama. I think Alabama, they're, they're ... Is that ... See, if it's Alabama, it was the quote that said, "We're not California."
- GFGreg Fitzsimmons
Yeah. (laughs)
- JRJoe Rogan
(laughs)
- GFGreg Fitzsimmons
They're so silly.
- JRJoe Rogan
You re- you realize what we represent to the Deep South?
- GFGreg Fitzsimmons
(laughs)
- 19:17 – 23:47
Texas identity, Comanches, and the brutal roots of frontier violence
- GFGreg Fitzsimmons
It's so funny that pe- that... The South has these st- I mean, it goes back to the Civil War. I mean, the statewide identity is so powerful. You think about how Texans think of themselves. They are Texans before they are the, before they are Americans.
- JRJoe Rogan
Oh, yeah.
- GFGreg Fitzsimmons
And it's like that in most Southern states and it's like, you know, that's what the fucking war was fought about.
- JRJoe Rogan
But it's Texas more than any of the other ones now.
- GFGreg Fitzsimmons
Yeah.
- JRJoe Rogan
Texas is a totally different country.
- GFGreg Fitzsimmons
Right.
- JRJoe Rogan
I'm 100% on board with that. It's a different country.
- GFGreg Fitzsimmons
Yeah.
- JRJoe Rogan
It's Texas.
- GFGreg Fitzsimmons
They got their own economy.
- JRJoe Rogan
Pffft. They're a republic too. They were... For the longest time, they, they could have bailed.
- GFGreg Fitzsimmons
Mm-hmm.
- JRJoe Rogan
You know? Like, and they, they're the ones who had to fight off the Comanches, dude.
- GFGreg Fitzsimmons
Yeah.
- JRJoe Rogan
Oh my God. I... When I read this book, um... T-... U-... W-... What was... What is the, uh, the Gwyn now? Empire of the Summer Moon. Uh, this Native American book I, I read, uh... Actually listened to it on audio. I don't wanna lie. Um, but it's amazing and it's all about the Comanches and the, the Comanche Indians and the Texas Rangers, which were created to try to combat the Comanches. This guy moved to Texas and started reading up on the history of, uh, American, uh, Indian and, uh, settler combat and all, all the different crazy shit-
- GFGreg Fitzsimmons
Right.
- JRJoe Rogan
... that went on during those days. And he's like, "What in the fuck? These Comanches just ran this place for hundreds of years."
- GFGreg Fitzsimmons
No shit.
- JRJoe Rogan
'Cause they were like the first ones to figure out horseback.
- GFGreg Fitzsimmons
Yeah.
- JRJoe Rogan
That was Texas. So the Texas Rangers were the first successful guys against the Comanche and they basically fought like the Comanche. They fought on horseback. They didn't dress like regular soldiers. They grew their hair out long. They were just savages.
- GFGreg Fitzsimmons
Yeah.
- JRJoe Rogan
And they were our savages-
- GFGreg Fitzsimmons
Right.
- JRJoe Rogan
... and they went out and fought the savages at the savage game.
- GFGreg Fitzsimmons
Right.
- JRJoe Rogan
And that's, like, what established Texas. Those there, that's a deeply rooted independent place. Like-
- GFGreg Fitzsimmons
Oh, yeah.
- JRJoe Rogan
... "Hey, fuck you. We carved this fucking place out."
- 23:47 – 30:46
Disasters, stimulus money, and a forced life reset for comedians
- JRJoe Rogan
'Cause it's... I- in a lot of ways it's like any disaster that can happen, you know, you almost shoulda saw it coming.
- GFGreg Fitzsimmons
Yeah.
- JRJoe Rogan
Like almost every crazy disaster, like you almost shoulda saw it coming. Like, why, why are they still building houses that get torn apart by hurricanes?
- GFGreg Fitzsimmons
Mm-hmm.
- JRJoe Rogan
Isn't it possible to build a house that doesn't get torn apart by hur-... Yeah, but economically it's not really wise. It's, like, too... Uh, it's too hard. When you see houses getting torn apart by hurricanes, like, you get it, it's a resource issue.... but part of you is like, "Man, as human beings, like, we know how to make houses that survive hurricanes."
- GFGreg Fitzsimmons
Right.
- JRJoe Rogan
Don't we?
- GFGreg Fitzsimmons
Yeah.
- JRJoe Rogan
They make some hurricane-proof houses, right?
- GFGreg Fitzsimmons
Yeah.
- JRJoe Rogan
Why don't they, like, retrofit houses for hurricanes? I get it, be super expensive. But when you see, like, the amount of money that they have now with this s- stimulus package. I hate to say it, but it does bring forth a lot of the ideas that people like Bernie Sanders talk about where it's like you've got all this money to help people when the shit hits the fan.
- GFGreg Fitzsimmons
Right.
- JRJoe Rogan
But why didn't you have all this money to help people, like, get out of a bad situation?
- GFGreg Fitzsimmons
Right.
- JRJoe Rogan
Or why didn't you have all this money to help stimulate inner cities that are economically depressed? Why does it have to wait until the entire country-
- GFGreg Fitzsimmons
Yeah.
- JRJoe Rogan
... has shut down for a month that you realize, like, "We gotta give these people some fucking money." Like, where's this money coming from, man?
- GFGreg Fitzsimmons
Right.
- JRJoe Rogan
(laughs) What have you been doing with it? (coughs)
- GFGreg Fitzsimmons
It's almost like on a, on a micro level you can look at your own family for a lot of people. Like I know with me, it's like I'm on the road more than I probably wanna be sometimes-
- JRJoe Rogan
Yeah.
- GFGreg Fitzsimmons
... because I'm always like, "I got a kid in college. I gotta save money. I gotta..." And now that I'm not working at all for possibly a long fucking time. I mean, comedians, we're gonna be one of the last people back in the workforce because it, it's gonna, it's gonna demand that people trust getting back into groups again.
- JRJoe Rogan
I refuse to let you call it the workforce, us being a part of the workforce.
- GFGreg Fitzsimmons
(laughs)
- JRJoe Rogan
I fucking refuse. (laughs) I'm thinking of people out there working in kitchens-
- GFGreg Fitzsimmons
All right. Yeah.
- JRJoe Rogan
... and fucking carrying big-
- GFGreg Fitzsimmons
You don't bring a lunch pail and punch in?
- JRJoe Rogan
... garbage bags out to the dumpster.
- GFGreg Fitzsimmons
When you go to The Funny Bone? (laughs)
- 30:46 – 33:14
Apartment loneliness, community, and comics’ inside jokes (Jim Norton)
- JRJoe Rogan
Our feeling of community, it's enhanced. You know, one of the places that I always think of as the loneliest places is apartment buildings.
- GFGreg Fitzsimmons
Yeah.
- JRJoe Rogan
I always feel like apartments are really lonely, which is a weird feeling, right, to have when you're looking at something that has thousands of people living in one structure, or hundreds of people, or whatever the number might be. But I remember living in apartment buildings, I never knew any of those people. I'm like, "Hi, how you doing? Hey, what's up?" (laughs) It's like-
- GFGreg Fitzsimmons
Yeah.
- JRJoe Rogan
... you just go into your little door, you shut your cage, you bolt it-
- GFGreg Fitzsimmons
(laughs) Okay.
- JRJoe Rogan
... and you hope nobody breaks in and takes your things. You know?
- GFGreg Fitzsimmons
(laughs) Yeah.
- JRJoe Rogan
It's like, apartments are weird. Like, you don't, you don't get too tight with people that, you know, live next door.
- GFGreg Fitzsimmons
Especially if it's rentals.
- JRJoe Rogan
Yeah.
- GFGreg Fitzsimmons
If it's a c- if it's a condo where you own, people start to go, like, "All right, you're gonna be here for a while, we'll, we'll say hi."
- JRJoe Rogan
Well, Norton, I think, owns his place, and he was saying he don't know anybody.
- GFGreg Fitzsimmons
Oh, really?
- JRJoe Rogan
Maybe it's changed since the, this conversation that I had with him, but he's like, he goes, "I live with a fucking thousand people, I don't know any of them." (laughs)
- GFGreg Fitzsimmons
Yeah. And he's got a fucking pool and he's never invited me. Like, how many times I, like-
- JRJoe Rogan
Wow.
- GFGreg Fitzsimmons
... kiddingly I go, like, "Hey, you should all come over on Sunday." You know, like, we'll be at the cellar. "Hey, we should all come over Sunday, hang out at your pool." And he's always like, "Yeah, that..." His voice goes up like three oct-
- JRJoe Rogan
(laughs)
- GFGreg Fitzsimmons
"Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah, that'd be great." (laughs)
- JRJoe Rogan
(laughs)
- GFGreg Fitzsimmons
He doesn't want anyone at his fucking house.
- JRJoe Rogan
You can't come to his pool.
- GFGreg Fitzsimmons
(sighs) .
- JRJoe Rogan
You can't come to his dungeon, first of all. Who knows what-
- GFGreg Fitzsimmons
Who knows?
- JRJoe Rogan
... kinds of straps and bolt-ons and who God- knows what kind of things-
- GFGreg Fitzsimmons
Fake feet-
- JRJoe Rogan
... crazy enor-
- GFGreg Fitzsimmons
... with a dick insert at the bottom of it.
- 33:14 – 38:12
Rewatching comedies in quarantine: Sandler, SNL movies, and ‘can’t do that now’ jokes
- JRJoe Rogan
(laughs) It wasn't a bad movie, man. I watched that da- we were watching a lot of movies. You, dude, okay, here's, here's something, underrated, massively underrated, Adam Sandler movies.
- GFGreg Fitzsimmons
Sure.
- JRJoe Rogan
Adam Sandler movies are ridiculously underrated.
- GFGreg Fitzsimmons
Yeah.
- JRJoe Rogan
Ridiculously underrated.
- GFGreg Fitzsimmons
You watching them with your daughters?
- JRJoe Rogan
Dude, they're hilarious.
- GFGreg Fitzsimmons
Yeah.
- JRJoe Rogan
He, Adam Sandler has, like, s- p- I don't know how many movies that are really, really funny, but surprisingly funny. Like, like, "Ah!" Chuck and Larry, the one where he marries Kevin James for, for benefits.
- GFGreg Fitzsimmons
I didn't see that one.
- JRJoe Rogan
Dude, it is hilarious.
- GFGreg Fitzsimmons
Yeah.
- JRJoe Rogan
The, there's some rough moments in it where you're watching it and you go, "Whoa, you could never do this in 2020."
- GFGreg Fitzsimmons
Right, right.
- JRJoe Rogan
It's one of those movies, like, if somebody ever goes back on it and looks at it like, "Hey, what the fuck?" But ultimately, in the end, it was, like, a really positive movie. But, dude, there are hilarious moments in that movie where I'm like, "Wow, (laughs) this is really fucking funny."
- GFGreg Fitzsimmons
Yeah.
- JRJoe Rogan
Kingpin.
- GFGreg Fitzsimmons
Oh, Kingpin's-
- JRJoe Rogan
But-
- GFGreg Fitzsimmons
... fucking great.
- JRJoe Rogan
That's not him. No, no, it's a different movie. Yeah. No, no, but I'm not, I'm- Oh, okay. No, I'm just saying Kingpin is another movie-
- GFGreg Fitzsimmons
Yeah.
- JRJoe Rogan
... that I wish I could go back and watch again, but c- it's a little too rough for my kids.
- GFGreg Fitzsimmons
Yeah.
- JRJoe Rogan
Like, Rated R for the young one.
- GFGreg Fitzsimmons
Right.
- JRJoe Rogan
But that's another one, like, people can, you can forget how fucking funny that movie is.
- GFGreg Fitzsimmons
Yeah.
- JRJoe Rogan
I forgot how funny those Adam Sandler movies are, though.
- GFGreg Fitzsimmons
Yeah.
- 38:12 – 45:53
Prestige TV and acting craft: The Outsider, Silence of the Lambs, and suspense technique
- GFGreg Fitzsimmons
No. You know what I was thinking about the other day is like, I watched, uh, oh what was the show with that black woman in it?
- JRJoe Rogan
Madea?
- GFGreg Fitzsimmons
No, it's a TV, it's a TV series with a Black woman who's a British actress. Uh, she sang at the, uh, Oscars this year. Anyway.
- JRJoe Rogan
What are you watching?
- GFGreg Fitzsimmons
She's a-
- JRJoe Rogan
What kind of spare time do you have?
- GFGreg Fitzsimmons
Oh, I don't what the fuck.
- JRJoe Rogan
Do you watching a movie where there's an opera singer, is that what you said?
- GFGreg Fitzsimmons
It was, uh-
- JRJoe Rogan
What kind of singing?
- GFGreg Fitzsimmons
You know, like R&B.
- JRJoe Rogan
Oh.
- GFGreg Fitzsimmons
But the point is she's a British, she's a British African. What you say is there's African American and there's British.
- JRJoe Rogan
British, uh, what, how would you say that?
- GFGreg Fitzsimmons
African British? I don't know. But she was portraying a, an American woman. And you think, but is that cultural appropriation, because she's not an American Black woman.
- JRJoe Rogan
Oh. Interesting. Ooh, that's a really interesting point. So like an, a British woman who's of African descent playing an African American.
- GFGreg Fitzsimmons
Yeah.
- JRJoe Rogan
Yeah, that's a different thing. But I think you, there's a loophole, there's a crosspollination loophole to get allowed to do that.
- GFGreg Fitzsimmons
Yeah. They both suffered.
- JRJoe Rogan
Yeah, you're allowed to do that. You, what you can't do is blackface. That, you're just pretending you're a Black person from another continent. I mean, you were sold off to slavery, you know, in some European continent as well. Cynthia Erivo.
- GFGreg Fitzsimmons
Yeah, she played Harriet Tubman.
- JRJoe Rogan
Yeah, Cynthia Erivo, Erivo.
- GFGreg Fitzsimmons
And what was the TV show-
- JRJoe Rogan
She's amazing.
- GFGreg Fitzsimmons
... that she did that was so fucking good?
- JRJoe Rogan
The Outsider. Dude, she's incredible.
- GFGreg Fitzsimmons
Yeah.
- JRJoe Rogan
She's incredible.
- GFGreg Fitzsimmons
Dude, she's so good in The Outsider.
- JRJoe Rogan
She's incredible.
- 45:53 – 52:16
Old-world family stories: Italian-American food, immigration, and the origin of quarantine
- GFGreg Fitzsimmons
Your grandmother still alive?
- JRJoe Rogan
No. No, my grandmother ... Dude, my grandmother had a stroke and, um, they gave my grandfather ... They said she's got about 72 hours to live. She lived l- lived 12 years, 12 years, and sh- after an aneurysm.
- GFGreg Fitzsimmons
And he thought he, she had three weeks?
- JRJoe Rogan
They, they did not think she was gonna make it. She made it for 12 years. So the last 12 years of my grandmother's life when I would go to visit her, she was immobile in a bed. She couldn't remember me.
- GFGreg Fitzsimmons
No shit.
- JRJoe Rogan
Yeah. It was horrible, dude.
- GFGreg Fitzsimmons
Do you think when, when your grandfather was told she had three weeks left, do you think he threw a move on her?
- JRJoe Rogan
No.
- GFGreg Fitzsimmons
(laughs)
- JVJamie Vernon
(laughs)
- JRJoe Rogan
I lived with them when I first moved to, uh, to the E- to, to New Jersey, um, from Boston.
- GFGreg Fitzsimmons
Oh, that's right, yeah.
- JRJoe Rogan
When I first had a ... When I ba- Remember, uh, when I left, uh, Boston for, uh, New York, I had zero money.
- GFGreg Fitzsimmons
Yeah.
- JRJoe Rogan
And so I just stayed with my grandparents in Newark, and my grandmother was, uh, in that state at the time where she was bedridden and sh-
- GFGreg Fitzsimmons
Did they have help or was it just your grandfather taking care of her?
- JRJoe Rogan
They would, they would have help. They would have, uh, nurses would come over and help as well. It was rough, man.
- GFGreg Fitzsimmons
Wow.
- JRJoe Rogan
It was a sobering reminder of the, the temporary nature of life, 'cause I remember my grandmother when I was little. She was always this powerful lady, this powerful force.
- GFGreg Fitzsimmons
Yeah.
- JRJoe Rogan
You know? She's always yelling at my grandfather, "Don't rush me. Don't rush me, Joe."
- GFGreg Fitzsimmons
Oh, yeah.
- JRJoe Rogan
My grandfather's name was Joe too.
- GFGreg Fitzsimmons
Uh-huh.
- JRJoe Rogan
"Don't rush me, Joe."
- GFGreg Fitzsimmons
(laughs)
- JRJoe Rogan
She's like st- ... Like, "Get out of her way." I've talked about her before, how crazy she was in a, in a, in an amazing way.
- GFGreg Fitzsimmons
Yeah.
- JRJoe Rogan
But my grandmother had a monkey. She had a monkey named Chi-Chi.
- GFGreg Fitzsimmons
No shit.
- 52:16 – 1:02:29
Early inoculation, vaccines, and pandemic weirdness (Tiger King moment)
- GFGreg Fitzsimmons
No, you know what they used to do is, uh, they would go around with a corpse of somebody that died from smallpox and they would in... they would, uh, inject you with it. With a little, some cells from the corpse.
- JRJoe Rogan
What?
- GFGreg Fitzsimmons
They would go door to door with a wagon with a corpse in the back of it and they would give you injections.
- JRJoe Rogan
No.
- GFGreg Fitzsimmons
Yeah.
- JRJoe Rogan
How many people did that give smallpox to?
- GFGreg Fitzsimmons
I don't know but I guess if you give a small amount it wouldn't... They realized that it worked as a-
- JRJoe Rogan
A vaccine?
- GFGreg Fitzsimmons
... a vaccine if you gave a very small amount. Yeah.
- JRJoe Rogan
Really?
- GFGreg Fitzsimmons
Yeah.
- JRJoe Rogan
Did it... Was that effective?
- GFGreg Fitzsimmons
I imagine some people died from it if it wasn't done right. And then-
- JRJoe Rogan
We have to figure that out.
- GFGreg Fitzsimmons
Yeah.
- JRJoe Rogan
That's, that's fascinating. See if you can find-
- JVJamie Vernon
I'm looking.
- JRJoe Rogan
(laughs) Jamie's the fastest one-handed Googler on planet Earth.
- GFGreg Fitzsimmons
(laughs) We're not gonna say what he does with his other hand.
- JRJoe Rogan
He's doing some wizard... He's Sw... Yeah. Jerking off in the tub.
- JVJamie Vernon
So this would be... I typed in 'injections with corpses' nothing quite came up. Right, on like, on wagons you said, or something like that? You know, tying-
- GFGreg Fitzsimmons
Yeah, I remember watching, uh, HBO did this special about, uh, John Adams in, uh, in Boston. And there was a scene from it where they were going through town with a wagon with a corpse in it, shooting people.
- JRJoe Rogan
When did, when was the, when is the first vaccine? Like, when was that?
- GFGreg Fitzsimmons
I don't know.
- JRJoe Rogan
If you had to guess. Like, what was the polio vaccine?
- GFGreg Fitzsimmons
Well-
- JRJoe Rogan
What year was that? That's not the first one but that's the most... Like, who knows a guy who made a vaccine more than anyone knows Jonas Salk?
- JVJamie Vernon
Smallpox was the first one.
- GFGreg Fitzsimmons
Yeah.
- JRJoe Rogan
Really?
- 1:02:29 – 1:46:09
Nature’s horror show: botflies, parasites, invasive pythons, and apex-bird nightmares
- JRJoe Rogan
Look, biology is so weird, man. I wouldn't be, that wouldn't even be that shocking.
- GFGreg Fitzsimmons
Right?
- JRJoe Rogan
That's the way, uh, a disease gets cured, you have to fuck an animal.
- GFGreg Fitzsimmons
Yeah.
- JRJoe Rogan
How's that any weirder than some of the shit that, that's real? How's it any weirder than, uh, some of these parasites that, uh... You ever seen those videos of frogs that have the parasites in their eyeballs and they're swimming around their eyeballs? It is-
- GFGreg Fitzsimmons
Oh, no shit.
- JRJoe Rogan
... so creepy, man.
- GFGreg Fitzsimmons
Really?
- JRJoe Rogan
Yeah, they're getting eaten from the inside out by-
- GFGreg Fitzsimmons
Ugh.
- JRJoe Rogan
... these parasites that are in their eyeballs. So this poor frog is sitting there (imitates frog croaking) and these, these worms are squirreling all around, like-
- GFGreg Fitzsimmons
Yeah.
- JRJoe Rogan
... visibly, under its eyeballs.
- GFGreg Fitzsimmons
Yeah.
- JRJoe Rogan
Like, fuck, man.
- GFGreg Fitzsimmons
Dude, my brother-in-law, he's a cinematographer, he shoots nature stuff, so he goes, like, deep into the Amazon. He shot-
- JRJoe Rogan
Oh.
- GFGreg Fitzsimmons
He shot the first live, uh, I wanna say rhino or hippopotamus birth ever filmed.
- JRJoe Rogan
Look at that, look at that poor frog.
- GFGreg Fitzsimmons
Holy shit.
- JRJoe Rogan
Dude, nature doesn't give a fuck. Nature is just going to war 24/7 finding new ways to fuck up animals, testing their systems.
- GFGreg Fitzsimmons
Damn.
- JRJoe Rogan
Breaking through and establishing dominance inside this poor fucking creature's eyeball.
- JVJamie Vernon
Ugh.
- GFGreg Fitzsimmons
Wow.
- JRJoe Rogan
Bro. Please shut that down, Jamie, please.
- JVJamie Vernon
(laughs)
- GFGreg Fitzsimmons
So my brother-in-law was in, he was in the Amazon and he was shooting, I think it was a l- the first live hippo or rhino birth. And he comes back and he's visiting us, uh, out in California, and he's got this, uh, he's got this bump on his arm. And it's got a red line running up his arm, which means there's some kind of a bad infection.
- JRJoe Rogan
Right.
- GFGreg Fitzsimmons
So they shoot him up full of antibiotics, they say, "You'll be fine." So he's driving up the, up the PCH going out to Malibu with his family and, uh, he's poking at it and he's, he's trying to pop it like a zit. And all of a sudden, the thing just fucking explodes and this being, this creature, fucking flies out of him-
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