Joe Rogan Experience #1457 - Tim Dillon

1. 0:00 – 15:00

   (taps finger) Three, two, one.…

   1. JRJoe Rogan0:00

      (taps finger) Three, two, one. Later today, (taps finger) young Tim Dillon will find out whether or not he has the antibodies.

   2. TDTim Dillon0:07

      Yes. Yes. And if I do, I'm going to Wuhan to do a, like, a fun little video in a wet market-

   3. JRJoe Rogan0:13

      (laughs)

   4. TDTim Dillon0:15

      ... and eat a bat. If I have the antibodies, it's not-

   5. JRJoe Rogan0:18

      I don't-

   6. TDTim Dillon0:18

      It's okay. Is it safe?

   7. JRJoe Rogan0:20

      I don't know what this is.

   8. TDTim Dillon0:21

      Yeah, no one knows. We've never been in a time-

   9. JRJoe Rogan0:23

      Yeah.

   10. TDTim Dillon0:23

       ... where literally nobody knows.

   11. JRJoe Rogan0:25

       I have a string of text messages from, uh, Alex Jones-

   12. TDTim Dillon0:28

       Yeah.

   13. JRJoe Rogan0:28

       ... like, uh, that will, uh, change your opinion if you, if you smoke enough weed. And you don't smoke weed. Were you ever a weed smoker?

   14. TDTim Dillon0:34

       I smoked a lot of weed for a very long time.

   15. JRJoe Rogan0:37

       But were you-

   16. TDTim Dillon0:37

       That's when I discovered Alex Jones-

   17. JRJoe Rogan0:38

       (laughs)

   18. TDTim Dillon0:39

       ... when I was 13 when I was smoking weed listening to him on the GCN network.

   19. JRJoe Rogan0:43

       But when you got clean, it wasn't weed that was a problem, right? It was-

   20. TDTim Dillon0:45

       No, it was the cocaine and the-

   21. JRJoe Rogan0:46

       Yeah.

   22. TDTim Dillon0:47

       ... the booze and the pills, but weed was always there.

   23. JRJoe Rogan0:50

       I've never been a cocaine user.

   24. TDTim Dillon0:51

       Yeah.

   25. JRJoe Rogan0:51

       I've never used it, but I do love that Buckcherry song.

   26. TDTim Dillon0:54

       Oh, yeah, it's great.

   27. JRJoe Rogan0:55

       (laughs)

   28. TDTim Dillon0:55

       It's great.

   29. JRJoe Rogan0:56

       It almost makes you wanna-

   30. TDTim Dillon0:57

       Yeah.
2. 15:00 – 30:00

   Right. …

   1. TDTim Dillon15:00

      Right.

   2. JRJoe Rogan15:00

      You know? And that's why it can come back.

   3. TDTim Dillon15:02

      Yeah.

   4. JRJoe Rogan15:03

      They don't know.

   5. TDTim Dillon15:04

      They don't know.

   6. JRJoe Rogan15:04

      But they do know that ... This, I mean, this is a big NPR article. People are testing positive again who had been confirmed as negative in Wuhan.

   7. TDTim Dillon15:11

      I think it c- yeah. In China and then Korea, they had a few of those cases. Um, I trust-

   8. JRJoe Rogan15:16

      I mean, the Korean one's way more than the Chinese ones.

   9. TDTim Dillon15:18

      South Korea, yeah. The South Korea said 14% or something amount of people seem to have tested positive again. Which, I mean, which is scary 'cause that could be another strain.

   10. JRJoe Rogan15:27

       Or it could be like herpes. It stays in your system-

   11. TDTim Dillon15:29

       It ju-

   12. JRJoe Rogan15:29

       ... and pops out again. Like when your immune system is down.

   13. TDTim Dillon15:31

       Or if we've all had it in five years, we're all gonna die.

   14. JRJoe Rogan15:34

       You know, my buddy, Justin Wren, he runs this, um, uh, he has this n- nonprofit charity organization, Fight For The Forgotten. They build wells for the pygmies in the Congo.

   15. TDTim Dillon15:43

       Yeah.

   16. JRJoe Rogan15:43

       And he got malaria when he was in the Congo and he got it again. He's got it three times. But he got it one time when he got sick when he's home. He got sick at home and the malaria-

   17. TDTim Dillon15:54

       With malaria?

   18. JRJoe Rogan15:54

       ... came back.

   19. TDTim Dillon15:55

       Oh.

   20. JRJoe Rogan15:55

       It came back.

   21. TDTim Dillon15:56

       Wow.

   22. JRJoe Rogan15:57

       Yeah. So it's-

   23. TDTim Dillon15:58

       That's fucked.

   24. JRJoe Rogan15:59

       That's fucked.

   25. TDTim Dillon15:59

       Yeah.

   26. JRJoe Rogan16:00

       So it's like it was somehow or another dormant in his system and then when his immune system is shattered by whatever cold or flu he got-

   27. TDTim Dillon16:07

       Yeah.

   28. JRJoe Rogan16:07

       ... the malaria kicked back in again.

   29. TDTim Dillon16:09

       Is he take ... Did he take, take that hydroxychloroquine?

   30. JRJoe Rogan16:11

       I don't know what he took.
3. 30:00 – 45:00

   S- …

   1. TDTim Dillon30:00

      it was good for a while, and then the government got involved and ruined that.

   2. JRJoe Rogan30:03

      S-

   3. TDTim Dillon30:04

      Ruined that. We were just trying to help people.

   4. JRJoe Rogan30:06

      Yeah. (laughs)

   5. TDTim Dillon30:06

      And, uh, you know, we were. People deserve homes, Joe, whether they have jobs or not.

   6. JRJoe Rogan30:11

      (laughs)

   7. TDTim Dillon30:11

      They deserve to have a pool.

   8. JRJoe Rogan30:13

      They were giving people homes with no jobs.

   9. TDTim Dillon30:14

      Well, that's the other thing, and then everybody goes back and they're like, "Everybody was, you know, the, the banks robbed all these people." It's like, they were in on it. Everyone was in on it. Everybody buying a house, n- for the most part, knew what they were doing.

   10. JRJoe Rogan30:26

       Mmm.

   11. TDTim Dillon30:26

       They all knew.

   12. JRJoe Rogan30:27

       ... yeah.

   13. TDTim Dillon30:28

       Yeah, all the t- you would have to call somebody.

   14. JRJoe Rogan30:30

       They knew, but they thought they could pull it off. Like-

   15. TDTim Dillon30:31

       You'd have to call somebody and be like, "Hey, you know, you know, you know your brother owns a, a Toyota dealership in Queens. Can he say you work there?" And they'd go, "Yeah."

   16. JRJoe Rogan30:38

       Yeah.

   17. TDTim Dillon30:38

       "Of course." Some guy would just write like, "Yeah, Sarah works here. She kills it. Makes eight grand a month slinging Toyotas on Northern Boulevard."

   18. JRJoe Rogan30:46

       (laughs)

   19. TDTim Dillon30:46

       None of it was true. And then we'd give her a loan for $400,000.

   20. JRJoe Rogan30:49

       And she'd buy a house.

   21. TDTim Dillon30:50

       Yeah, and she'd buy a house.

   22. JRJoe Rogan30:51

       And then she'd see those... And then when... The thing about the, the, the changing of the mortgage payments.

   23. TDTim Dillon30:57

       Yeah.

   24. JRJoe Rogan30:57

       That's what really fucked people up.

   25. TDTim Dillon30:58

       Two years. So two years you would get... There was something called the pick a payment option. I mean, it's great. So they, you had four options to pay. You know, usually a mortgage you pay your principal, interest, taxes, and insurance. Here you had four. One was like you could pay 1% like a credit card. You could pay 1%. You could pay only interest. That was the second option. You could pay 30-year regular option, or you could pay like a 15-year if you really wanted to pay it off quickly. Nobody paid the 15 or the 30. Very few people did the interest only. They did 1%, so that deferred interest, and it l- so you would pay your mortgage and it would balloon. It would go up. Like you would pay 1%-

   26. JRJoe Rogan31:34

       Yeah.

   27. TDTim Dillon31:34

       ... and your mortgage would go up every year. And then eventually you got to a point where then it would just readjust and your mortgage payment would go up like $2,700.

   28. JRJoe Rogan31:42

       And didn't your mortgage adjust with some of them depending upon the market?

   29. TDTim Dillon31:46

       Yeah, so like two years into a loan, two or three years into a loan, I had a house. I bought a house. I was 22.

   30. JRJoe Rogan31:51

       (laughs)
4. 45:00 – 1:00:00

   Yeah. …

   1. JRJoe Rogan45:00

      with, uh, administered the human papillomavirus vaccine in three rounds that, that year under the supervision of state health department officials. The vaccine used was Gardasil, manufactured by Merck."

   2. TDTim Dillon45:15

      Yeah.

   3. JRJoe Rogan45:15

      Merck. Merck.

   4. TDTim Dillon45:15

      "Months later, many girls started falling ill and by, and by 2010, five of them died."

   5. JRJoe Rogan45:20

      Yeah. That's a-

   6. TDTim Dillon45:21

      I'm not... Yeah.

   7. JRJoe Rogan45:21

      But that is a, uh-

   8. TDTim Dillon45:22

      I get it. I'm not-

   9. JRJoe Rogan45:22

      ... that's a controversial vaccine, period.

   10. TDTim Dillon45:25

       I'm just saying-

   11. JRJoe Rogan45:25

       Two more.

   12. TDTim Dillon45:25

       Yeah.

   13. JRJoe Rogan45:26

       It's good, but it's one of those ones where there's a high number of adverse reactions. "Estimated 14,000 children studying in schools meant for tribal children were also vaccinated with another band, brand of HPV vaccine, Cervarix, Cervarix." I like when they're like on the nose like that. Oh, is it against cervical cancer? Yeah, we'll call it Cervarix.

   14. TDTim Dillon45:46

       Cervarix.

   15. JRJoe Rogan45:47

       "Manufactured by GSK. Earlier in the week, the Associated Press reported that scores of teenage girls were hospitalized in a small town north, in northern Colombia with symptoms that parents suspected could be adverse, adverse reaction to Gardasil." Hmm. So, some people died from this vaccine. But it, isn't... Go- google, uh, "HPV vaccine dangerous reactions." Because I, I've read that there's a certain percentage, whether it's, you know, one tenth or 1%, whatever it is-

   16. TDTim Dillon46:14

       I just think you have to look into it when there's a guy who-

   17. JRJoe Rogan46:15

       ... that some people get.

   18. TDTim Dillon46:16

       When anyone stands to make billions of dollars and institute something that's going to be very widely accepted as now necessary for life, you know, you have to ask questions about it.

   19. JRJoe Rogan46:29

       "According to HPV vaccine manufacturers, the most common adverse reactions to Gardasil include, include pain, swelling, redness, stinging, bruising, bleeding of the injection site, and headache, fever, nausea, diarrhea, abdominal pain," and it keeps going.

   20. TDTim Dillon46:43

       It's not that bad. I'm not saying that he's doing something inherently wrong, but you have to watch people like that. The fact that nobody knows, like nobody knows he's... you know, this is not a well-known thing.

   21. JRJoe Rogan46:52

       I understand, but the idea that this is how he wants to make his money by vaccinating people-

   22. TDTim Dillon46:57

       No, no, no. But we have a world that's increasingly run by billionaires-

   23. JRJoe Rogan47:01

       ... there's a reason why he's doing that, is to make money.

   24. TDTim Dillon47:02

       ... whom tell us what is and isn't necessary and how things are gonna be, right?

   25. JRJoe Rogan47:04

       That's true.

   26. TDTim Dillon47:05

       Whether they're in tech, whether they're in health, whatever they are-

   27. JRJoe Rogan47:07

       Mm-hmm.

   28. TDTim Dillon47:07

       ... these are billionaires. Generally, they give these TED Talks and stuff like that. People don't pay attention to what they're doing. They're, they influence the political system in ways that we have, in, in ways that we know about and don't know about. And you've got to watch these people.

   29. JRJoe Rogan47:21

       Okay, but now, now... okay.

   30. TDTim Dillon47:21

       I don't know Bill Gates.
5. 1:00:00 – 1:01:49

   Are the wet markets…

   1. JRJoe Rogan1:00:00

      carbon, but actually they're taking carbon out of the air and reintroducing all these ancient farming methods where they're moving cows around at different plots and, you, and you know-

   2. TDTim Dillon1:00:13

      Are the wet markets factory farming, though? That seems pretty independent.

   3. JRJoe Rogan1:00:17

      No, it's not factory farming.

   4. TDTim Dillon1:00:18

      Okay, but, uh-

   5. JRJoe Rogan1:00:18

      But it's animals i- in confinement.

   6. TDTim Dillon1:00:21

      Right.

   7. JRJoe Rogan1:00:21

      And surrounded by other animals living in these unnatural environments.

   8. TDTim Dillon1:00:24

      Right.

   9. JRJoe Rogan1:00:24

      That's what it is.

   10. TDTim Dillon1:00:26

       Can they-

   11. JRJoe Rogan1:00:26

       Wet, wet markets are foul.

   12. TDTim Dillon1:00:27

       But can you avoid that, when you gotta feed a population like that?

   13. JRJoe Rogan1:00:30

       Well, Osterholm, yeah, you can feed them bugs.

   14. TDTim Dillon1:00:32

       Okay.

   15. JRJoe Rogan1:00:32

       Osterholm, uh, had a whole ... He was the guy that scared the fuck out of everybody when he came on my podcast, but-

   16. TDTim Dillon1:00:37

       Terrified me.

   17. JRJoe Rogan1:00:38

       He has a whole section in this book that he wrote from three years ago-

   18. TDTim Dillon1:00:42

       Yeah.

   19. JRJoe Rogan1:00:42

       ... from 2017, about wet markets and how the next pandemic's gonna come out of a wet market.

   20. TDTim Dillon1:00:46

       So we gotta shut 'em ... We gotta try to persuade China to shut them down.

   21. JRJoe Rogan1:00:50

       They're not going to. (hands clap) You know what they did say?

   22. TDTim Dillon1:00:51

       Yeah.

   23. JRJoe Rogan1:00:51

       They're taking dogs off the livestock listing. Like, "Yay, you guys are doing good."

   24. TDTim Dillon1:00:56

       Oh, that's nice. What about bats? Get the bats out of there!

   25. JRJoe Rogan1:01:00

       But, I mean, they're, it's almost like they're throwing people a bone.

   26. TDTim Dillon1:01:03

       Yeah.

   27. JRJoe Rogan1:01:03

       Like, "Hey, we're gonna, we're gonna s- we're gonnas-"

   28. TDTim Dillon1:01:05

       "No, dogs." (laughs)

   29. JRJoe Rogan1:01:06

       "We're gonna stop considering dogs livestock." Like, "Oh, you guys are amazing."

   30. TDTim Dillon1:01:09

       And also, they're not. They're definitely not.

Episode duration: 3:01:21