The Joe Rogan ExperienceJoe Rogan Experience #1460 - Donnell Rawlings
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150 min read · 30,020 words- 0:00 – 2:26
COVID-era catch-up: coughing, distancing, and immune support basics
- DRDonnell Rawlings
One. Donnell.
- JRJoe Rogan
We're live.
- DRDonnell Rawlings
Mm.
- JRJoe Rogan
So good to see you.
- DRDonnell Rawlings
(laughs) (coughs) Okay. This is not the cough that people expect to come from me.
- JRJoe Rogan
This is just a weed cough. (coughs)
- DRDonnell Rawlings
This is ... (coughs)
- JRJoe Rogan
Donnell has not been tested. He will be tested today-
- DRDonnell Rawlings
Y- ... I might, man. (coughs)
- JRJoe Rogan
... at the end of the podcast.
- DRDonnell Rawlings
You ain't gotta-
- JRJoe Rogan
I'm not worried.
- DRDonnell Rawlings
But you ain't gotta blow it up like that, man.
- JRJoe Rogan
(laughs)
- DRDonnell Rawlings
Give me a chance to explain.
- JRJoe Rogan
I'm not worried. I'm not worried.
- DRDonnell Rawlings
Gi- give me, give me a chance. And, and, and, and I understand-
- JRJoe Rogan
Get healthy.
- DRDonnell Rawlings
I haven't, but I have subscribed ... Six feet. I have my measure. I have subscribed to-
- JRJoe Rogan
Social distancing.
- DRDonnell Rawlings
... social distancing-
- JRJoe Rogan
Oh.
- DRDonnell Rawlings
100%, but the new normal. The new normal-
- JRJoe Rogan
Is he on camera? We should move over a little bit.
- DRDonnell Rawlings
Th- the, the new normal. In the new normal ... And this has nothing to do with you, Joe. But just ... The-
- JRJoe Rogan
(laughs)
- DRDonnell Rawlings
I'm just saying. Listen. It ain't the p- ... It's ... I, I'm protecting, possibly be protecting myself from, for me-
- JRJoe Rogan
Right.
- DRDonnell Rawlings
... to you.
- JRJoe Rogan
Okay.
- 2:26 – 7:59
Why this virus dominates headlines: novelty, immunity, and how airborne spread works
- JRJoe Rogan
All of it's bad, you know. It's not good to be sick. But when you, when you protect your immune system and keep your body healthy and strong, it, it definitely ... It's like you have troops. All right? You gotta think of the virus as like an in- invading army.
- DRDonnell Rawlings
100%.
- JRJoe Rogan
There's all these viruses. And apparently, that Lex Fridman quote ... What was it? How many different viruses are there? Hundreds of thousands that are constantly competing? Like, he was, uh, describing it. This, this genius Russian scientist that I have on the podcast sometimes.
- DRDonnell Rawlings
He was like specifically the COVID virus?
- JRJoe Rogan
Well, he's talking about all viruses in general.
- DRDonnell Rawlings
All viruses, period.
- JRJoe Rogan
He said it's like a world war out there of viruses.
- DRDonnell Rawlings
But what I hear in, in ... When it comes to it being a world war, I've heard that the COVID-
- JRJoe Rogan
Here it is. Look at this guy wrote. "There's 320,000 plus distinct viruses in mammals and 100 million invertebrates, invertebrates and plants. There's an epic microscopic world war going on all around us and inside us. Nature is beautiful and terrifying." And then he closes the source.
- DRDonnell Rawlings
So, why is this, why is this one getting the headlines?
- JRJoe Rogan
Well-
- DRDonnell Rawlings
If that's the case, why is this getting the headlines?
- JRJoe Rogan
It's new. It's called ... It's a novel coronavirus, meaning no one has an immune system for it.
- DRDonnell Rawlings
Got it.
- JRJoe Rogan
No one has developed immunity. You know, when you think about other diseases like the common cold or, you know, uh, different flus, like, we've had flus. People have a certain amount of immunity to flu. You get flu shots. You can get a flu shot. It gives you an immunity to a certain amount. Even, even when they get the flu shot wrong apparently, because sometimes they, they guess the wrong flu strain, it still has enough of what a flu is to protect you somewhat, sort of keep you from getting more sick and you can't get sick.
- DRDonnell Rawlings
So, corona is actually a strand of ... It's like the baby brother of the flu?
- JRJoe Rogan
Not really. It's a, it's a type of virus. A coronavirus is a, is a, is a whole category of viruses that includes the common cold. This is ... They call it SARS-2 or COVID-19.
- DRDonnell Rawlings
Right.
- JRJoe Rogan
And this is a new one. So, then the problem with this is no one knows how it gets spread. Like, even back as far as January, they were thinking it didn't spread through the air. They were thinking-
- DRDonnell Rawlings
Right. So, it's not-
- JRJoe Rogan
... it didn't spread person-to-person.
- DRDonnell Rawlings
It's not ... And I know this might be some ignorant questions, but I know a lot of ignorant people.
- JRJoe Rogan
No, it's not. No ignorance, man. It's not ignorance.
- DRDonnell Rawlings
Um-
- JRJoe Rogan
Like, we ... None of us really know. It's, it's ... We're learning.
- DRDonnell Rawlings
So, um, is the ... With the ... Like you said, f- ... I think what people are fearful of the most, if it's airborne.
- JRJoe Rogan
Yes.
- DRDonnell Rawlings
I mean, I don't know if that is the, the specific reason why they're enforcing wearing masks or whatever.
- JRJoe Rogan
Yes, it is, yeah.
- DRDonnell Rawlings
And I don't know if we've got to that panic stage. And I, I know none of the people haven't announced it or anything. But it didn't ... It hasn't been classified as a virus that's airborne. Like, it doesn't just fly around motherfucking ... S- fly around shit all day.
- 7:59 – 10:17
Historical parallels and the psychology of lockdown: Spanish flu, trust, and relationship pressure
- JRJoe Rogan
I would never do that. I only did it because he ... So whoever p- I thought it was him. Someone posted ... Maybe he did it on Twitter, I don't know. Someone posted something that was a picture of, uh, these people that got tired of social distancing after the 1918 flu.
- DRDonnell Rawlings
Right.
- JRJoe Rogan
And they were out in the streets celebrating the end of the war. And they said that that started a resurge in cases, and the second wave wound up killing more people than died in the war.
- DRDonnell Rawlings
And you know who those people were?
- JRJoe Rogan
Young men. A lot of them.
- DRDonnell Rawlings
No. They was motherfuckers that was in fucked up relationships.
- JRJoe Rogan
(laughs)
- DRDonnell Rawlings
Joe, if corona don't test anything ... Yo, if corona don't test anything, it's gonna test the love that you have for the person that you're supposed to love.
- JRJoe Rogan
Yes.
- DRDonnell Rawlings
And I'm pretty sure, like, nobody wants to die, right?
- JRJoe Rogan
Right.
- DRDonnell Rawlings
Definitely nobody wants to die, right? (laughs) But sometimes motherfu- they, they just mention that, you know what? (sighs)
- JRJoe Rogan
You finding out if you made a mistake right now.
- DRDonnell Rawlings
I ... You may, you made a mistake, but you start ... And I hope this is not the case with people. You start weighing it.
- JRJoe Rogan
Oh, yeah.
- DRDonnell Rawlings
You're like, "Oh, fuck, man. I swear, I-"
- JRJoe Rogan
Well, women with men too, man. Imagine being, living with a guy who's falling apart right now.
- DRDonnell Rawlings
Falling apart in wha- in, in the health-wise or just mentally in their life?
- JRJoe Rogan
No, just like if you're together, you're together in a house 24/7.
- DRDonnell Rawlings
Right.
- JRJoe Rogan
And y- you know, you're, you're falling apart as far as like the way you're handling this. Like some people just can just accept, okay, this is a new normal. This is what, this o- there's people running around like, "Fuck this."
- DRDonnell Rawlings
So you're talking about the bitch mother-
- JRJoe Rogan
"Open the fucking government back up."
- DRDonnell Rawlings
Right.
- JRJoe Rogan
There's people that are freaking out right now.
- DRDonnell Rawlings
Right.
- JRJoe Rogan
And there's people that have points and there's people that don't have points, but men and women. Like everybody's a mess right now.
- DRDonnell Rawlings
But you know, you, you're absolutely right. And this is where ... And I know you have got it. You're, you're a fan of David? You know what I'm saying?
- JRJoe Rogan
I just uh, love him.
- DRDonnell Rawlings
David and David Goggins.
- 10:17 – 15:49
Obesity, diet culture, and hard truths about risk factors
- DRDonnell Rawlings
Like, like you say. And one of the things that this is gonna ... what's gonna happen with this, it's gonna be, it's gonna increase awareness on so many fucking levels.
- JRJoe Rogan
Yo, 100%.
- DRDonnell Rawlings
'Cause they do these Covey fucking, um, briefs every day, right? And there's three things they say is gonna really fuck you up if you do. Drugs, alcohol, and it's another one. Drugs-
- JRJoe Rogan
Obesity.
- DRDonnell Rawlings
Obesity, drugs and alcohol.
- JRJoe Rogan
They said obesity was the number one factor-
- DRDonnell Rawlings
Obesity.
- JRJoe Rogan
... in New York City apparently.
- DRDonnell Rawlings
And this is the thing. And this is what you, this is what they don't report. And I'm not disres- I'm not shitting on anybody, you know. The God bless ... I mean, hopefully nobody I know gets it or just I don't want this shit to happen to anyone. But this is what they don't mention when they say these numbers. You know? And it's crazy. I ain't trying to be a asshole. Uh, 500 people died today. They don't break it down. Is it 500 Joe Rogan niggas?
- JRJoe Rogan
(laughs)
- DRDonnell Rawlings
Is it 500 David Goggins niggas? No, it's probably, it's ... You know what it is.
- JRJoe Rogan
It is, but sometimes it's not. That's what's scary about this shit.
- DRDonnell Rawlings
But that, I know sometimes it's not, but we do know, Joe, that it contributes.
- JRJoe Rogan
Yes.
- DRDonnell Rawlings
It has a major factor in it.
- JRJoe Rogan
It's a major factor and people need to know that it's a major factor and stop saving their feelings.
- DRDonnell Rawlings
Yes.
- JRJoe Rogan
Just letting them know as a fact.
- DRDonnell Rawlings
Yeah.
- JRJoe Rogan
Some, some-
- DRDonnell Rawlings
Some fat motherfuckers is dying of Covey.
- JRJoe Rogan
Yes. And sometimes, like, when you're just talking shit about someone being fat-
- DRDonnell Rawlings
And let's be some fat mother- I saw a motherfucker on the internet, Joe.
- JRJoe Rogan
(laughs)
- DRDonnell Rawlings
This nigga was live with a ventilator, right? He sound like Biggie Smalls. He was like, (breathing heavily) "I'm letting y'all know this is serious." Nigga, yes, it's serious. You know what else is serious too? Those 10 pieces of chicken, that extra sweet tea, that motherfucking potato salad with mayonnaise and mayonnaise and mayonnaise and mayonnaise. All of that shit is important and all of it is relevant.
- JRJoe Rogan
All of it's relevant.
- DRDonnell Rawlings
All of it is fucking relevant.
- JRJoe Rogan
Yeah. You, it's delicious food, but you know what you're doing when you're eating it.
- DRDonnell Rawlings
When I talk to you-
- JRJoe Rogan
When you drink something that's like, you know why you're drinking it. Like, if you're drinking like a regular Coca-Cola.
- 15:49 – 21:21
Faith, personal responsibility, and the RZA-comments aftermath
- DRDonnell Rawlings
Do you think something like this had to happen for people to put real family values and what's important in perspective?
- JRJoe Rogan
That's a good question.
- DRDonnell Rawlings
Is, do you believe, like, we talked about it of- like-
- JRJoe Rogan
Mm-hmm.
- DRDonnell Rawlings
... and I'm like, um, I'm a religious person to the extent that I know that it is something that makes people feel good about.
- JRJoe Rogan
Yeah.
- DRDonnell Rawlings
You know? But, you know, with, and, but then you have those holy, holy, holy people that celebrate God on one level, but then when something like this happens, but they don't understand that if you believe that God can fix anything, he's gonna take you to the Promised Land, you gotta believe that he had to be part of the narrative of this, of this curse.
- JRJoe Rogan
I think it's how much responsibility you put on yourself and how much responsibility, even if you believe in God, you put on that. Like, you gotta do some work yourself too. Like, even if you believe in God, don't get so fat that you're gonna die.
- DRDonnell Rawlings
You gotta-
- JRJoe Rogan
Yeah, don't do that.
- DRDonnell Rawlings
Bro.
- JRJoe Rogan
Don't let yourself do that. Start drinking water, just exercise-
- DRDonnell Rawlings
I tell-
- JRJoe Rogan
... stop eating as much sugar. You can do it. It can be done.
- DRDonnell Rawlings
Joe, I tell motherfuckers all the fucking time, you gotta fucking help God.
- JRJoe Rogan
Help him.
- DRDonnell Rawlings
You gotta help him. You can't, you can't just be like, "Oh, shit, God, I hope I don't get diabetes. Let me get the cotton candy."
- JRJoe Rogan
(laughs)
- DRDonnell Rawlings
"Let me get the extra sweet tea. Let me get the funnel cake." You can't do that.
- JRJoe Rogan
Uh, you're right. You're right. You can't, shouldn't. If you do, you're, you're, you're doing a disservice to the gift of life. You know how many people out there are in wheelchairs, they're born with horrible debilitating diseases, they can't do shit, people that have been in accidents, people that have been blown up in war, they can't even move around? And here you are taking a perfectly good body and just dumping bullshit into it while it just explodes. And I understand that people get addicted to things. You get addicted to that feeling of the rush of eating, but you gotta get yourself off of it.
- DRDonnell Rawlings
You know, it's-
- JRJoe Rogan
You gotta figure out a way to live your life better. It can be done. Other people have done it. You can do it too.
- DRDonnell Rawlings
Yeah.
- JRJoe Rogan
The idea that you can't do it is stupid.
- DRDonnell Rawlings
You know, uh, you just gave me a thought, and the reason why sometime I interrupt because I know I got ADD, right?
- JRJoe Rogan
(laughs)
- DRDonnell Rawlings
And if I don't get my thought out in that second, I'll fucking forget about it.
- JRJoe Rogan
I get it.
- DRDonnell Rawlings
A- and, um, it's-
- JRJoe Rogan
You're, you're sensitive to interrupting now after the RZA podcast.
- 21:21 – 29:20
Podcasting and creative control: why independence beats producers
- DRDonnell Rawlings
Joe, that's easy for you to say, Joe. Yo, how many years did it take you to just be you and comfortable like this? And the reason why I'm saying that, when you first started, right? When you... And not that, uh... And the birth of my podcast was because of that. When you first started, I know as calm as your demeanor is right now and as comfortable, and I may be wrong, as comfortable of saying, "Fuck them, don't worry about them," I know that could not have been your beginning. I've, uh, you had to have had you... And I may be wrong. You had to like, "Okay, why did that person say that? What do they mean by that?"
- JRJoe Rogan
Darnell, I think I have brain damage.
- DRDonnell Rawlings
From what?
- JRJoe Rogan
From getting hit in the head. And I don't think I worry about the same-
- DRDonnell Rawlings
Okay.
- JRJoe Rogan
... um, things that people worry about.
- DRDonnell Rawlings
Right. I... You're absolutely right, 'cause that's probably-
- JRJoe Rogan
That's one... Uh, that's a real possibility, right? You know me. That might be real, right? There might be something going on there. But it's also, um, I, I have that-
- DRDonnell Rawlings
So your whole career-
- JRJoe Rogan
... Fear Factor money. And then I just wanted-
- DRDonnell Rawlings
Okay, there it is. There it is.
- JRJoe Rogan
... to do standup. And I was free. I felt-
- DRDonnell Rawlings
Okay, so you had... See? Boom.
- JRJoe Rogan
Yeah.
- DRDonnell Rawlings
See? You had a...
- JRJoe Rogan
I'm not a... I don't buy a lot of shit. I don't go-
- DRDonnell Rawlings
Right.
- JRJoe Rogan
I don't go crazy. I like cars.
- DRDonnell Rawlings
Right.
- JRJoe Rogan
That's my, my, my only addiction.
- DRDonnell Rawlings
Right.
- JRJoe Rogan
But I'm not... When I did something like Fear Factor and making some money, it gave me this freedom to now just to not worry about ever doing that again.
- DRDonnell Rawlings
But you always have been of that mindset.
- JRJoe Rogan
Yeah, but it reinforced it. It just re- Uh, things like that reinforce it. Like having a bl- Uh, having, uh, like, uh, savings in the bank is nice, but also doing what you want to do is nice too. One of the things that I learned from Fear Factor-
- DRDonnell Rawlings
How about this? I learned from you today.
- JRJoe Rogan
... is that I don't want to do that anymore.
- DRDonnell Rawlings
Right.
- JRJoe Rogan
I don't want to do that kind of stuff anymore.
- DRDonnell Rawlings
You know what? I don't want to be premature of it, but, uh, I could see you my podcast mentor. You know what I'm saying? But not being mat- bl- uh, uh, uh, uh, um, into it too early. But you made me feel that type of confidence in term, in, in, in terms of controlling your own destiny, being in control of your own shit, and this is what you want to do. 'Cause I've talked to you about the pod... I've... E- Oh, every time I get an idea, I hit you up, like, "What do you think about this as a TV show?" And you told me, like... I was excited about this idea I had, and you were like, "The podcast, bro, you control that. It's your show."
- JRJoe Rogan
Look, you don't want... You're you, right?
- 29:20 – 37:38
Merch, masks, and the ‘Donny Ross’ candle: building a product during quarantine
- JRJoe Rogan
It's moving.
- DRDonnell Rawlings
But, you know, and I feel-
- JRJoe Rogan
Look at you. (laughs) You even have your own mask.
- DRDonnell Rawlings
That's my son's hair right there, son.
- JRJoe Rogan
Oh, Jesus.
- DRDonnell Rawlings
That's my son. And this, speaking of that, I-
- JRJoe Rogan
Show us your m- show everybody your mask, though. The mask is hilarious.
- DRDonnell Rawlings
Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
- JRJoe Rogan
This is The Donnell Rawlings Show-
- DRDonnell Rawlings
Oh, we got merchandise for y'all punk motherfuckers now.
- JRJoe Rogan
... COVID mask.
- DRDonnell Rawlings
This is the-
- JRJoe Rogan
What does it say on it? (laughs)
- DRDonnell Rawlings
Hold on, wait a minute, wait a minute. What does it say? It says, it says ... hold on. It says, "The Donnell Rawlings Show" on one side. What is that? What side?
- JRJoe Rogan
Right. Uh, the other side.
- DRDonnell Rawlings
Oh, Donnell Rawlings Show.
- JRJoe Rogan
And the other side it says- "Not today, 'rona."
- DRDonnell Rawlings
"Not today, 'rona." Not today, 'rona. It won't happen today. And if you see ... Yo, look s- ... all right, I'ma tell y'all a secret. I didn't want-
- JRJoe Rogan
(laughs) With your son's hair.
- DRDonnell Rawlings
Yo, I'ma tell you, I'ma tell you what happened, son. This was a tough time for everybody. Nobody wanted to take their hat off, right?
- JRJoe Rogan
(laughs)
- DRDonnell Rawlings
And yo, I've been feeling it, right? And I was like, "Well, never act in Hollywood again if I do this," right? So I started going ... You'll see, I mean, I ain't embarrassed. I got the motherfucking sunroof.
- JRJoe Rogan
Dude, I got a sunroof.
- DRDonnell Rawlings
No, I got a sunroof sunroof.
- JRJoe Rogan
Look at this. Look at this, man. This is a sunroof.
- DRDonnell Rawlings
Yo, my s- ... but your sunroof making fu- $50 million a year.
- JRJoe Rogan
(laughs)
- DRDonnell Rawlings
This is not the same roof. You know what I'm saying? This is a, this is a hoopty roof right here. So I cut my son's hair, right? And I was like, "Oh, shit, what can I do?" Right? He saw his hair and he was like, "Ugh." So I said, "I'm gonna fuck around when I take it to the show and I'm gonna get a glue stick..."... and put it on my head just for fun. He thought it would be funny. And I showed him this podcast, um, the other day, and he got excited about it. But the thing I like about me having that hair, it smells like him. So it's like-
- JRJoe Rogan
Aw.
- DRDonnell Rawlings
... a little souvenir. And right there, you know what? Joe, I don't want to feel like I'm CVS or anything right now-
- 37:38 – 43:58
Comedy income shock and adapting fast: road life ends, dad time begins
- DRDonnell Rawlings
And, and the thing about it was, it was... I was gonna launch this before the corona shit hit, but I had to ask myself, like, wh- this is what put things in perspective for me. I'm a road rat, you know I'm a road dog.
- JRJoe Rogan
Yeah.
- DRDonnell Rawlings
When you're a road dog, you start feeling com... You like, I got... You look at your candel- com- comedian... You look at your ca- calendar and see your calendar, you're like, "I'm good." And the rhythm of my calendar before this shit popped, I was rocking with Martin, we had fucking dates coming on. You know what I'm saying? I had some-
- JRJoe Rogan
Yeah, I was looking forward to those.
- DRDonnell Rawlings
... good shit.
- JRJoe Rogan
Nashville, New Orleans, we were going to have some fun.
- DRDonnell Rawlings
Nashville, New Orleans.
- JRJoe Rogan
Ah.
- DRDonnell Rawlings
I had one time when I was supposed to do you, this was going to be my weekend. It was you and Dave on a Friday, and then Martin Lawrence the next day.
- JRJoe Rogan
Jesus Christ.
- DRDonnell Rawlings
And as they say in the streets, God was good as a motherfucker. The last show I did before these mandates came in, it was at the, um, at the Milwau- you've probably played there before, Milwaukee Theater.
- JRJoe Rogan
Yeah, I think I've been there.
- DRDonnell Rawlings
The Pabst, the Pabst Theater.
- JRJoe Rogan
Yeah.
- DRDonnell Rawlings
So you've been down in that green room downstairs, right?
- JRJoe Rogan
Mm-hmm.
- DRDonnell Rawlings
Incredible. That was the last time... It was the last time I was on stage.
- JRJoe Rogan
Do you remember what weekend that was?
- DRDonnell Rawlings
In, in regards to-
- JRJoe Rogan
Was that the 14th?
- DRDonnell Rawlings
Oh, goddamn.
- JRJoe Rogan
Or was it the weekend before that? There was like a couple of weekends where people were still... Like I remember, uh, Post Malone had a big show in Denver.
- DRDonnell Rawlings
It was right when it was about to pop. It was like, you know, the reason why, because seeing the days road guy, whatever. Every like... When we were on the road, every day was a different news report. You know what I'm saying? It was right when it was going down, Joe.
- JRJoe Rogan
Right, right.
- DRDonnell Rawlings
Like it was like when everybody-
- JRJoe Rogan
It was accelerating.
- DRDonnell Rawlings
Yeah, it was, everybody was like, "Oh, fucking..." Uh, th- this what we was hearing, the NBA, baseball, and we was like this, "We good." We telling jokes. Pow, pow, pow. And then next thing you know, the shit-
- JRJoe Rogan
Yeah.
- DRDonnell Rawlings
... was shut down. But I said, I was like, "Hold up, motherfucker, you are really unemployed right now." You know, and when I say that my flow of income is rode. And I'm like, "What do you do?" You got savings and shit, but you still, nobody wants to just see money going out and no money coming in. And then I was like, I was happy that this is why I was... I could tell you, I always thank you, but I was happy because you got me out the gate, so the momentum is there and I needed to put the focus in on it. I was forced to put the focus in it, but I put the focus on it and I said to myself, as, as all these comedians bitching what am I going to do, I'm like, "You got three months to figure out what your rhythm is going to be and what you're going to do." You can wait for this shit, it's what you ever you consider it to be over, you can wait for it's over and then like start now or you could start now. And the only reason I'm saying like that the candle thing, it was going to be a novelty thing, whatever, but I was like, this candle is going to, going to train me on what it takes to come up with an idea, market it, get people excited about it, provide a quality product and see what the feedback is. You know? So I know it may seem like so simple to people, but as... I've always had a, a entrepreneur spirit, but never was forced to really-
- JRJoe Rogan
Right.
- 43:58 – 56:04
How fragile ‘normal’ is: second waves, viral load, and frontline mask ethics
- JRJoe Rogan
What makes you think that this is really temporary? Just because it's always been there doesn't mean it will always be there.
- DRDonnell Rawlings
What you mean?
- JRJoe Rogan
People have gone-
- DRDonnell Rawlings
The virus or just the con- just the mental?
- JRJoe Rogan
Anything! Whatever life is.
- DRDonnell Rawlings
Right.
- JRJoe Rogan
The way, the way our society is structured, this is new. All right? There's, the cities themselves are new. They've only, they've only been around here for a few hundred years, right? We pretend-
- DRDonnell Rawlings
All my friends think we s- the world started in the '60s because... (laughs)
- JRJoe Rogan
Whatever it is.
- DRDonnell Rawlings
All right.
- JRJoe Rogan
Wha- wh- whatever the date is, we all know that the world used to be very different. We just assume that the way it is now is the way it's gonna stay. That's not a good assumption because it's all volatile and changes constantly, and there's natural disasters that are way scarier than this virus. There's things like asteroid impacts that are inevitable. There's things like super volcanoes, which are inevitable. They're going to happen. Whether they happen 100,000 years from now or 100 days from now, somewhere in the world a giant volcano is gonna explode and it's gonna turn the whole phun- fucking planet into nuclear winter.
- DRDonnell Rawlings
And people aren't a-
- JRJoe Rogan
A lot of shit is gonna die. It's gonna cloud out the sun, it's gonna cool the temperature of the planet, and it's gonna do it for years and a lot of fucking things are gonna die. That's happened a ton of times. Uh, that, I mean, this, what we're having right now is-
- DRDonnell Rawlings
But people are conditioned to it because they went through it. We never went through anything like this.
- JRJoe Rogan
Exactly! But this is why we're going through something that is the good... If there's anything that's good about going through something is that you're forced to realize that something can happen, something real can happen that shuts the world's economy down and no one saw it coming. Something real, that's a real thing.
- DRDonnell Rawlings
But we really haven't had, uh, in America, we really haven't had that test.
- JRJoe Rogan
No, but this is for the whole world though. This is like a planetary test and the good thing about that is it g- you get to see how different people try it. Different people have different, you know, strategies they have to, to deal with their public and their, their healthcare. And it's very different results all over the planet and they're gonna analyze all that shit and try to find out why Germany did so well and Italy did so bad, and this and that. And they're gonna try to put all this stuff together. It's, it's a, it's a terrible time for the people that are affecting the people to get sick.
- DRDonnell Rawlings
But do you think this-
- JRJoe Rogan
Because no, there's no, it's not a good thing. But-
- DRDonnell Rawlings
Do you think-
- JRJoe Rogan
But pe- people can get something good out of it.
- DRDonnell Rawlings
100%.
- JRJoe Rogan
You can get something good out of a bad thing and the good thing is to prepare yourself better. You know?
- DRDonnell Rawlings
I, I agree with you 100%, but do you think this because when you, you talk about... And you the only motherfucker I would know that would know more than 10 viruses. Most motherfuckers I grew up with only know one virus. You know, you know all the viruses. Do you think, and when they s-
- JRJoe Rogan
I don't know all the viruses.
- DRDonnell Rawlings
You know all, you know more viruses than me.
- JRJoe Rogan
I just know there's numbers. But you know I barely know what I'm talking about.
- DRDonnell Rawlings
Yeah but you-
- JRJoe Rogan
It just sounds good 'cause I'm repeating shit.
- DRDonnell Rawlings
But you read off them ten-syllable words like you know all the motherfucking viruses, motherfucker.
- 56:04 – 1:03:28
Crime, fear, and self-defense: from convenience stores to being robbed at gunpoint
- JRJoe Rogan
Dude, if you work in a liquor store and-
- DRDonnell Rawlings
Yeah.
- JRJoe Rogan
... you know, like your, your, your, your liquor store has been robbed a couple times already, you know.
- DRDonnell Rawlings
How... First off, if I were... There's... Here's the deal. Liquor store, anybody who's thinking about robbing a liquor store, keep in mind that I'm almost certain that every motherfucker that own a liquor store got a shotgun or a pistol back there.
- JRJoe Rogan
Yeah.
- DRDonnell Rawlings
I don't give a fuck, they're gonna have something back there. So-
- JRJoe Rogan
Tell you-
- DRDonnell Rawlings
... you can roll up in there with your fucking Spider-Man mask if you want to, you won't get your head split.
- JRJoe Rogan
That's a crazy job to be in, man, to put yourself in a situation where every day you go at work, you might have a gun stuck in your face and be told to empty out the cash register, like any day. Like you live in fear of that, that people coming in might rob you.
- DRDonnell Rawlings
I said... I was at... I have a routine. I don't socialize but I go out and get coffee, right? There's this 7-Eleven I go to and, um, I know the motherfucking Mexican motherfucker that work in there, right? And I was outside in the car and there was a Black guy in there and I could tell him this guy was looking at the Black guy. Next thing you know, and I was about to do a radio interview for DC, my man Joe Clay a shout-out, and these motherfuckers started rumbling, like fighting, like going at it, like pop, pop, pop, fuck you, fuck you. And my instinct was to try to go help or do something and for a second I was like, "Oh, this is just fucked up, man. Stop that." Then I was like, "Rona out there, motherfucker. I'm not getting in it." And then finally they stopped, but it just... it was just weird like-
- JRJoe Rogan
That kind of contact, yeah, unless-
- DRDonnell Rawlings
Yeah.
- JRJoe Rogan
... you're stopping a man from doing that to a woman or unless you're stopping someone from hurting someone as much as small as them.
- DRDonnell Rawlings
But that guy... This motherfucker work for 7-Eleven, Joe, and like he's defending whatever, might have been a can of Spam or whatever the situation is. And he's-
- JRJoe Rogan
Oh, that's what they're fighting over?
- DRDonnell Rawlings
I don't know what it was.
- JRJoe Rogan
(laughs)
- DRDonnell Rawlings
I don't know what it was. I'm pretty sure he's accused the guy of shoplifting.
- JRJoe Rogan
Oh.
- DRDonnell Rawlings
But he put his... especially in this day and age whatever, in, in the state that we're all... This motherfucker was fighting... He was fighting for this shit.
- JRJoe Rogan
Joel, let it go.
- DRDonnell Rawlings
Yeah. You gotta let it go. I'm like this motherfucker, you can have-
- JRJoe Rogan
Especially 'cause you're just an employee. Imagine having a fight for a can of Spam-
- DRDonnell Rawlings
But that's what I'm putting.
- JRJoe Rogan
... and just getting paid $5 an hour anyway.
- DRDonnell Rawlings
In Hawaii?
- JRJoe Rogan
What's minimum wage? What's been-
- DRDonnell Rawlings
What?
- JRJoe Rogan
What's minimum?
- DRDonnell Rawlings
It's like 11 bucks.
- 1:03:28 – 1:11:28
Tiger King and modern identity debates: fame, trolling, and “do whatever you want”
- JRJoe Rogan
Like Joe Exotic, right? He's in Oklahoma and so he's walking around with that-
- DRDonnell Rawlings
Yeah, that motherfucker (laughs) .
- JRJoe Rogan
They must have an open carry law there too (laughs) .
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