The Joe Rogan ExperienceJoe Rogan Experience #1460 - Donnell Rawlings
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One. Donnell. …
- DRDonnell Rawlings
One. Donnell.
- JRJoe Rogan
We're live.
- DRDonnell Rawlings
Mm.
- JRJoe Rogan
So good to see you.
- DRDonnell Rawlings
(laughs) (coughs) Okay. This is not the cough that people expect to come from me.
- JRJoe Rogan
This is just a weed cough. (coughs)
- DRDonnell Rawlings
This is ... (coughs)
- JRJoe Rogan
Donnell has not been tested. He will be tested today-
- DRDonnell Rawlings
Y- ... I might, man. (coughs)
- JRJoe Rogan
... at the end of the podcast.
- DRDonnell Rawlings
You ain't gotta-
- JRJoe Rogan
I'm not worried.
- DRDonnell Rawlings
But you ain't gotta blow it up like that, man.
- JRJoe Rogan
(laughs)
- DRDonnell Rawlings
Give me a chance to explain.
- JRJoe Rogan
I'm not worried. I'm not worried.
- DRDonnell Rawlings
Gi- give me, give me a chance. And, and, and, and I understand-
- JRJoe Rogan
Get healthy.
- DRDonnell Rawlings
I haven't, but I have subscribed ... Six feet. I have my measure. I have subscribed to-
- JRJoe Rogan
Social distancing.
- DRDonnell Rawlings
... social distancing-
- JRJoe Rogan
Oh.
- DRDonnell Rawlings
100%, but the new normal. The new normal-
- JRJoe Rogan
Is he on camera? We should move over a little bit.
- DRDonnell Rawlings
Th- the, the new normal. In the new normal ... And this has nothing to do with you, Joe. But just ... The-
- JRJoe Rogan
(laughs)
- DRDonnell Rawlings
I'm just saying. Listen. It ain't the p- ... It's ... I, I'm protecting, possibly be protecting myself from, for me-
- JRJoe Rogan
Right.
- DRDonnell Rawlings
... to you.
- JRJoe Rogan
Okay.
- 15:00 – 30:00
It's crazy. …
- JRJoe Rogan
m- you're gonna make people pay for that, you can't.
- DRDonnell Rawlings
It's crazy.
- JRJoe Rogan
Yeah, you can't. This is a thing that's happening right now. It's almost like, uh, there, there's a lot of dangerous shit that happens when things go into chaos because there's people that take advantage of those moments, and they just-
- DRDonnell Rawlings
People get rich.
- JRJoe Rogan
They, people get rich, but more importantly, laws get passed 'cause people are scared. And those laws can, like, be, uh, they could sneak something in where they ban encryption, or they sneak something in where they, uh, stop, uh, digital currencies that aren't controlled by certai- certain companies. They can sneak weird shit in while people are freaking out. 24-hour surveillance 'cause we wanna make sure that people don't loot and riot. Weird shit can happen that can-
- DRDonnell Rawlings
Right.
- JRJoe Rogan
... erode your civil liberties when things get chaotic.
- DRDonnell Rawlings
Different, change.
- JRJoe Rogan
This is a weird time, you know, but this is where we live. This is life right now. You gotta just accept that.
- DRDonnell Rawlings
Do you think something like this had to happen for people to put real family values and what's important in perspective?
- JRJoe Rogan
That's a good question.
- DRDonnell Rawlings
Is, do you believe, like, we talked about it of- like-
- JRJoe Rogan
Mm-hmm.
- DRDonnell Rawlings
... and I'm like, um, I'm a religious person to the extent that I know that it is something that makes people feel good about.
- JRJoe Rogan
Yeah.
- DRDonnell Rawlings
You know? But, you know, with, and, but then you have those holy, holy, holy people that celebrate God on one level, but then when something like this happens, but they don't understand that if you believe that God can fix anything, he's gonna take you to the Promised Land, you gotta believe that he had to be part of the narrative of this, of this curse.
- JRJoe Rogan
I think it's how much responsibility you put on yourself and how much responsibility, even if you believe in God, you put on that. Like, you gotta do some work yourself too. Like, even if you believe in God, don't get so fat that you're gonna die.
- DRDonnell Rawlings
You gotta-
- JRJoe Rogan
Yeah, don't do that.
- DRDonnell Rawlings
Bro.
- JRJoe Rogan
Don't let yourself do that. Start drinking water, just exercise-
- DRDonnell Rawlings
I tell-
- JRJoe Rogan
... stop eating as much sugar. You can do it. It can be done.
- DRDonnell Rawlings
Joe, I tell motherfuckers all the fucking time, you gotta fucking help God.
- JRJoe Rogan
Help him.
- DRDonnell Rawlings
You gotta help him. You can't, you can't just be like, "Oh, shit, God, I hope I don't get diabetes. Let me get the cotton candy."
- JRJoe Rogan
(laughs)
- DRDonnell Rawlings
"Let me get the extra sweet tea. Let me get the funnel cake." You can't do that.
- JRJoe Rogan
Uh, you're right. You're right. You can't, shouldn't. If you do, you're, you're, you're doing a disservice to the gift of life. You know how many people out there are in wheelchairs, they're born with horrible debilitating diseases, they can't do shit, people that have been in accidents, people that have been blown up in war, they can't even move around? And here you are taking a perfectly good body and just dumping bullshit into it while it just explodes. And I understand that people get addicted to things. You get addicted to that feeling of the rush of eating, but you gotta get yourself off of it.
- DRDonnell Rawlings
You know, it's-
- 30:00 – 45:00
(laughs) …
- DRDonnell Rawlings
tell you, I'ma tell you what happened, son. This was a tough time for everybody. Nobody wanted to take their hat off, right?
- JRJoe Rogan
(laughs)
- DRDonnell Rawlings
And yo, I've been feeling it, right? And I was like, "Well, never act in Hollywood again if I do this," right? So I started going ... You'll see, I mean, I ain't embarrassed. I got the motherfucking sunroof.
- JRJoe Rogan
Dude, I got a sunroof.
- DRDonnell Rawlings
No, I got a sunroof sunroof.
- JRJoe Rogan
Look at this. Look at this, man. This is a sunroof.
- DRDonnell Rawlings
Yo, my s- ... but your sunroof making fu- $50 million a year.
- JRJoe Rogan
(laughs)
- DRDonnell Rawlings
This is not the same roof. You know what I'm saying? This is a, this is a hoopty roof right here. So I cut my son's hair, right? And I was like, "Oh, shit, what can I do?" Right? He saw his hair and he was like, "Ugh." So I said, "I'm gonna fuck around when I take it to the show and I'm gonna get a glue stick..."... and put it on my head just for fun. He thought it would be funny. And I showed him this podcast, um, the other day, and he got excited about it. But the thing I like about me having that hair, it smells like him. So it's like-
- JRJoe Rogan
Aw.
- DRDonnell Rawlings
... a little souvenir. And right there, you know what? Joe, I don't want to feel like I'm CVS or anything right now-
- JRJoe Rogan
(laughs)
- DRDonnell Rawlings
... but I want to say, we all know when it comes to corona, there's certain things that go before you know if you have corona or you kind of feel it.
- JRJoe Rogan
Right.
- DRDonnell Rawlings
Your sense of smell-
- JRJoe Rogan
Right.
- DRDonnell Rawlings
... and your sense of taste. That's why, Joe, you're not gonna believe this, right? (laughs)
- JRJoe Rogan
(laughs)
- DRDonnell Rawlings
I came up ... I came up with a one of a kind, this is a, a specific to me, it's the Donnell Rawlings show.
- JRJoe Rogan
Okay.
- DRDonnell Rawlings
Now, I've n- I don't know if you're familiar with a smell called Black Ice. Black Ice. Do you know what Black Ice is?
- JRJoe Rogan
No.
- DRDonnell Rawlings
You don't know what Black Ice is?
- JRJoe Rogan
I don't know. I wouldn't lie to you.
- DRDonnell Rawlings
No, you don't really know-
- JRJoe Rogan
Do you know what Black Ice-
- DRDonnell Rawlings
... what the Black Ice air freshener is?
- JRJoe Rogan
I don't think so. Do you know what it is?
- DRDonnell Rawlings
You don't know. Okay. You're gonna ... I bet you ... 'cause you'll know this.
- JRJoe Rogan
I mean, I've ... oh, their air freshener?
- 45:00 – 1:00:00
But people are conditioned…
- JRJoe Rogan
years and a lot of fucking things are gonna die. That's happened a ton of times. Uh, that, I mean, this, what we're having right now is-
- DRDonnell Rawlings
But people are conditioned to it because they went through it. We never went through anything like this.
- JRJoe Rogan
Exactly! But this is why we're going through something that is the good... If there's anything that's good about going through something is that you're forced to realize that something can happen, something real can happen that shuts the world's economy down and no one saw it coming. Something real, that's a real thing.
- DRDonnell Rawlings
But we really haven't had, uh, in America, we really haven't had that test.
- JRJoe Rogan
No, but this is for the whole world though. This is like a planetary test and the good thing about that is it g- you get to see how different people try it. Different people have different, you know, strategies they have to, to deal with their public and their, their healthcare. And it's very different results all over the planet and they're gonna analyze all that shit and try to find out why Germany did so well and Italy did so bad, and this and that. And they're gonna try to put all this stuff together. It's, it's a, it's a terrible time for the people that are affecting the people to get sick.
- DRDonnell Rawlings
But do you think this-
- JRJoe Rogan
Because no, there's no, it's not a good thing. But-
- DRDonnell Rawlings
Do you think-
- JRJoe Rogan
But pe- people can get something good out of it.
- DRDonnell Rawlings
100%.
- JRJoe Rogan
You can get something good out of a bad thing and the good thing is to prepare yourself better. You know?
- DRDonnell Rawlings
I, I agree with you 100%, but do you think this because when you, you talk about... And you the only motherfucker I would know that would know more than 10 viruses. Most motherfuckers I grew up with only know one virus. You know, you know all the viruses. Do you think, and when they s-
- JRJoe Rogan
I don't know all the viruses.
- DRDonnell Rawlings
You know all, you know more viruses than me.
- JRJoe Rogan
I just know there's numbers. But you know I barely know what I'm talking about.
- DRDonnell Rawlings
Yeah but you-
- JRJoe Rogan
It just sounds good 'cause I'm repeating shit.
- DRDonnell Rawlings
But you read off them ten-syllable words like you know all the motherfucking viruses, motherfucker.
- JRJoe Rogan
(laughs)
- DRDonnell Rawlings
You didn't have to clap it out. But they say, this is what they say about the virus too.
- JRJoe Rogan
(laughs)
- DRDonnell Rawlings
This is what they say about the virus too, Joe. They say it's a bitch-ass virus.
- JRJoe Rogan
Yeah.
- DRDonnell Rawlings
And like, they s- like, is it-
- JRJoe Rogan
For some people.
- DRDonnell Rawlings
For some people. Do you think, and I've heard that, well you think it'll be flattening more or when it starts getting really, really hot?
- JRJoe Rogan
I don't know, see-
- DRDonnell Rawlings
You don't think, you think the... 'Cause I heard it doesn't survive like 85 degree or 90 degree temperatures. This is what I read somewhere, that it doesn't ha- that the likelihood of it living out of your body, whatever, is l- is l- a lot shorter.
- JRJoe Rogan
Shorter. Yeah. I don't know if that's true, uh, but I do know that for whatever reason there are seasons, right? Where people get colds. I mean, it kinda makes sense that-
- DRDonnell Rawlings
Yeah, because you-
- 1:00:00 – 1:03:34
(laughs) …
- DRDonnell Rawlings
street and I used to do a poet-... a comedy poetry night, get a little money from the hat or whatever. And one night I'm going to the weed spot, right? I'm like, "Fuck it, I'm gonna go get some weed." I go to the weed spot, two motherfuckers roll up on me and I know I was in a gentrified neighborhood because my hood senses were down. I should have never been looking down. Two motherfuckers roll up on me, "Give me your shit, motherfucker." I'm like, "Oh, shit." They was like, "Where the..." This motherfucker said, "Where the jewelry?" 'Cause I'm not a flashy type of person. He's like, "Where the jewelry? Where the phone at, motherfucker?" I was like, "I don't travel like that. I don't get down like that." This motherfucker said, "Oh, you're a broke motherfucker." You calling me broke?
- JRJoe Rogan
(laughs)
- DRDonnell Rawlings
And you fucking robbing me? I'm like, "What the fuck?"
- JRJoe Rogan
Yeah. (laughs)
- DRDonnell Rawlings
Somebody didn't raise you right, that makes no sense. And I was still gonna go to the weed spot 'cause I still had a couple of bucks in my pocket, right? But I was like, "It would be just my luck, I go to the weed spot and the same motherfucker that robbed me is in the goddamn weed spot."
- JRJoe Rogan
Yeah.
- DRDonnell Rawlings
But that shit was like...... people and the, and when it happened to me, I felt fucked up. I felt so violated because I'm like, "You a bitch." I would respect you more if you mugged me. You know, like beat me up for my money. But to pull a gun out and have that advantage and think you tough, that shit was so fucked up and I felt so violated. On the inside, I was thinking like probably what most white dudes think, "You know what? I'm gonna jump for the gun" (laughs) like you. I'm thinking probably what you're thinking. I'm gonna disarm him, 'cause I know you gotta move if somebody put ... I know you, you know something if somebody put a gun to you. You'll be like ... and then next thing you know the gun be, be in their face. I was thinking that shit but I was like, "If I miss ..."
- JRJoe Rogan
People have a distorted idea of what they can do, especially if a guy's got a gun on you. You have a real distorted idea of how quickly you can move through space. Like, all this person has to do is this. That's it.
- DRDonnell Rawlings
Right.
- JRJoe Rogan
That's the great equalizer.
- DRDonnell Rawlings
So that's what the-
- JRJoe Rogan
A little movement like that and a kid can kill you. You know?
- DRDonnell Rawlings
And that's was, the reason why I didn't go with how I felt-
- JRJoe Rogan
Yeah.
- DRDonnell Rawlings
... on the inside.
- JRJoe Rogan
Oh, you have to. You gotta just-
- DRDonnell Rawlings
You know?
- JRJoe Rogan
... give them the money. It's just, uh, it, yeah, you're right, it's a, it's a bitch way to do things. But-
- DRDonnell Rawlings
It is.
- JRJoe Rogan
... it's just a, it's a part of society that most people never use. Most people never pull a gun on people to get what they want. But some people do. It's a real thing. And it's, uh, it's a, it's one of the weakest things someone can do. You know?
- DRDonnell Rawlings
It is. It felt-
- JRJoe Rogan
But it also will protect you.
- DRDonnell Rawlings
And you ... but you feel powerless.
- JRJoe Rogan
But it also can protect you.
- DRDonnell Rawlings
On the other side.
- JRJoe Rogan
On the other side, it can protect you. You know, I watched a video today of these guys-
- DRDonnell Rawlings
Yeah, but they don't, don't, don't, the other-
- JRJoe Rogan
... break into a new apartment.
- DRDonnell Rawlings
... side on in places, and we talked about this before, the other side were places where it's legal. Like, you know, the only people that have guns for protection, and I'm speaking about living in New York, was the police.
- JRJoe Rogan
Mm-hmm.
Episode duration: 3:01:24
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