Joe Rogan Experience #1462 - Kurt Metzger

1. 0:00 – 1:20

   COVID test relief, asymptomatic spread, and distrust of official China data

   1. JRJoe Rogan0:00

      (mimicking a drum roll) And we're live.

   2. KMKurt Metzger0:03

      Hey.

   3. JRJoe Rogan0:03

      Look at you-

   4. KMKurt Metzger0:04

      Boy.

   5. JRJoe Rogan0:04

      ... smoking a blunt.

   6. KMKurt Metzger0:05

      I know. I've-

   7. JRJoe Rogan0:05

      This is your celebratory blunt.

   8. KMKurt Metzger0:07

      Holy shit, dude. I- I'm still a little bit-

   9. NANarrator0:10

      (laughs)

   10. KMKurt Metzger0:10

       That felt like getting a AIDS test.

   11. NANarrator0:12

       (laughs)

   12. JRJoe Rogan0:13

       But you're clean. You're good.

   13. KMKurt Metzger0:14

       I know. It's weird. (laughs)

   14. JRJoe Rogan0:16

       But you knew you were healthy. You feel good.

   15. KMKurt Metzger0:18

       Yeah. I haven't felt like I had something.

   16. JRJoe Rogan0:20

       So you were aware you were one of the asymptomatic people.

   17. KMKurt Metzger0:22

       Yeah.

   18. JRJoe Rogan0:23

       They said as many as 60 to 70% could be asymptomatic.

   19. KMKurt Metzger0:27

       Right. So, like, I don't wanna-

   20. JRJoe Rogan0:28

       Yeah.

   21. KMKurt Metzger0:28

       ... I don't have it, but then I gotta drive all the way back. (laughs)

   22. JRJoe Rogan0:30

       Well, that's why it's such a creepy disease. Like, there was a Anderson Cooper thing that, that was, we were talking about it earlier, where the mayor of Las Vegas was on with Anderson Cooper.

   23. KMKurt Metzger0:38

       Oh, yeah.

   24. JRJoe Rogan0:38

       And, uh, he was describing to her how one asymptomatic people, person can go to a restaurant, and it showed this chart of all the people that infected, got infected by this one. So, he's trying to say to her-

   25. KMKurt Metzger0:50

       How are they getting infected? Just the air?

   26. JRJoe Rogan0:52

       Just the air. Yeah. So he's trying to tell... This is completely theoretical. First of all, I don't know... The, the, the people that are saying this from Chi- I mean, I, I, I mean, maybe they touched the same things, maybe there was a bunch of different factors.

   27. KMKurt Metzger1:07

       Yeah.

   28. JRJoe Rogan1:07

       I don't know. I'm guessing it was just because of the air. But I don't trust a goddamn thing they're saying that's coming from China.

   29. KMKurt Metzger1:14

       Yeah, no, no. I wouldn't. (laughs)

   30. JRJoe Rogan1:15

       If anything they say, if they're saying something, it's been approved by the government.
2. 1:20 – 2:43

   Epoch Times, Falun Gong, and the idea of “good cults”

   1. KMKurt Metzger1:20

      What's that paper, uh, The Epoch Times? There's, like, a paper that-

   2. JRJoe Rogan1:23

      Epoch? I think it's Epoch Times.

   3. KMKurt Metzger1:25

      Yeah, Epoch Times. Yeah.

   4. JRJoe Rogan1:25

      What is that?

   5. KMKurt Metzger1:26

      They, it's like, they'll be critical of China, but I think the guy that owns it is a Falun Gong guy.

   6. JRJoe Rogan1:32

      Oh.

   7. KMKurt Metzger1:32

      So I've seen criticism.

   8. JRJoe Rogan1:33

      What is the difference?

   9. KMKurt Metzger1:34

      Well, Falun Gong's that, that persecuted Tai Chi, uh, religion in, in China.

   10. JRJoe Rogan1:39

       Oh, really?

   11. KMKurt Metzger1:40

       China's fucking crazy, dude. You-

   12. JRJoe Rogan1:41

       Epoch Times is a multi-language newspaper.

   13. KMKurt Metzger1:43

       Yeah.

   14. JRJoe Rogan1:43

       It was founded in 2000 by John Tang and a group of Chinese-Americans-

   15. KMKurt Metzger1:47

       Yeah.

   16. JRJoe Rogan1:47

       ... associated with the Falun Gang spiritual movement. So, who is he, again?

   17. KMKurt Metzger1:52

       Uh, I don't know who John Tang is, but-

   18. JRJoe Rogan1:54

       No, no, no. F- Falun Gang?

   19. KMKurt Metzger1:55

       F-... Falun Gong is, like-

   20. JRJoe Rogan1:57

       Falun Gong.

   21. KMKurt Metzger1:57

       ... it's like Tai Chi, but I guess China considers it a cult. (laughs)

   22. JRJoe Rogan2:01

       What?

   23. KMKurt Metzger2:01

       So they cracked down on 'em like they're Uyghurs. And, uh-

   24. JRJoe Rogan2:04

       Oh, no.

   25. KMKurt Metzger2:06

       Yeah. And i- it's, uh, yeah, it's just, like, meditation shit. I don't-

   26. JRJoe Rogan2:08

       Come on. It's medit-... in, in Qigong exercises with a moral philosophy centered on tenets of truthfulness, compassion and forbearance. Holy fuck, I might have to join.

   27. KMKurt Metzger2:17

       (laughs) I know.

   28. JRJoe Rogan2:18

       I've been looking for a good cult.

   29. KMKurt Metzger2:19

       The Epoch Times, guys. Get on-

   30. JRJoe Rogan2:20

       I've been saying this for years. I want a good cult. Like, come up with a good one.
3. 2:43 – 4:50

   Kurt’s Jehovah’s Witness upbringing and why secular life can feel ‘culty’

   1. KMKurt Metzger2:43

      Well, uh, I would've said Jehovah's Witnesses was a good cult. If, if I sta-... 'Cause I'm not really bitter at Jehovah's Witnesses.

   2. JRJoe Rogan2:49

      Well, let's tell everybody that doesn't know.

   3. KMKurt Metzger2:51

      Mm-hmm.

   4. JRJoe Rogan2:51

      Y- y-... 'Cause people might not be aware of your background. You, you grew up as a Jehovah's Witness.

   5. KMKurt Metzger2:55

      Mm-hmm.

   6. JRJoe Rogan2:56

      You're one of my friends that has, like, the most rock solid rules on not tolerating horse shit. And w- w-... Because when people start bullshitting-

   7. KMKurt Metzger3:05

      Uh, yeah.

   8. JRJoe Rogan3:05

      ... and saying nons-... You'll, you're, you're always the guy that's like, "I know where this goes."

   9. KMKurt Metzger3:09

      Yeah. Well-

   10. JRJoe Rogan3:10

       "I know where this goes."

   11. KMKurt Metzger3:10

       For, for something like that, I-

   12. JRJoe Rogan3:11

       Yeah.

   13. KMKurt Metzger3:11

       ... I'm hyper-

   14. JRJoe Rogan3:12

       Hyper vigilant.

   15. KMKurt Metzger3:13

       I am very, like, hyper sensitive to culty-

   16. JRJoe Rogan3:16

       Yeah.

   17. KMKurt Metzger3:16

       I just don't wanna go along with a thing 'cause you have to go along with it.

   18. JRJoe Rogan3:19

       Right.

   19. KMKurt Metzger3:20

       And, like, come on. We're doing this. (laughs)

   20. JRJoe Rogan3:21

       That attitude-

   21. KMKurt Metzger3:22

       Yeah.

   22. JRJoe Rogan3:22

       ... is important.

   23. KMKurt Metzger3:23

       Well, i- i- I just... That's the reason I left Jehovah's Witnesses.

   24. JRJoe Rogan3:27

       Of course.

   25. KMKurt Metzger3:28

       Was I didn't wanna have that. Then when I got out in the world, that you can't escape it. Like, the people... All these people that claim to be secular that, that jump down your throat, like, online or something like that-

   26. JRJoe Rogan3:39

       Mm-hmm.

   27. KMKurt Metzger3:39

       It's all the same shit, but they-

   28. JRJoe Rogan3:40

       Right.

   29. KMKurt Metzger3:40

       ... just let, got rid of the-

   30. JRJoe Rogan3:42

       They got rid of the-
4. 4:50 – 9:31

   Real vs performative faith: scaffolding, evangelist grifts, and pop-culture comparisons

   1. JRJoe Rogan4:50

      Yes. Yes. There's some moral tenets if you g-... Like, if you really adopt Christianity. Some of my favorite people are Christians, and pretty hardcore Christians. People that I really like.

   2. KMKurt Metzger5:01

      Well, uh, look-

   3. JRJoe Rogan5:01

      L- like, here's one.

   4. KMKurt Metzger5:02

      Oh, g-... A Christ-... Listen, if you ever met a Christian, they're delightful. It's just they're like unicorns. There's probably, like, (laughs) three of 'em. The rest of the people are on a football team.

   5. JRJoe Rogan5:09

      You know who's a real Christian? Like, in, like, a, a, an admirable sense of the word, is Chris Pratt. Guardians of the Galaxy guy?

   6. KMKurt Metzger5:16

      Yeah, I've heard that. I've never met him.

   7. JRJoe Rogan5:17

      He is one of the nicest guys I've ever met. He's so nice and genuine, and right there with everyone.

   8. KMKurt Metzger5:23

      Right.

   9. JRJoe Rogan5:23

      He's, he's very religious. But I'll tell you what, man. If y-... If that's what it is, it's like, i- if, if following those tenets the way that guy does, it turns you into that kind of a person... He's an admirable person.

   10. KMKurt Metzger5:35

       That, that's how you're supposed to... It's not supposed to be, you know, you're preaching at people.

   11. JRJoe Rogan5:39

       Yeah.

   12. KMKurt Metzger5:39

       Your behavior is supposed to be the witness.

   13. JRJoe Rogan5:41

       Right.

   14. KMKurt Metzger5:42

       And so people that come into it, a lot of times, that's why they do. They go, "Well, I saw this guy. I'm like, if that's what that is, I wanna be that."

   15. JRJoe Rogan5:47

       You know what it's like? It's like they gotta abandon the goofy stories. If they just came out and said, "Listen, it's our belief that living in this way..."... uh, with this belief in a higher power and that holds you to a higher standard of behavior. If all of that, along with these tenants, you know, loving thy neighbor and treating each other as brothers and sisters, as if we were all one, if we- if y- just all that, you just gotta stop saying someone came back from the dead. You gotta stop saying that. And there's been all-

   16. KMKurt Metzger6:14

       Well, even those stories, even those goofy stories, which I- I- I always would say that-

   17. JRJoe Rogan6:19

       Right.

   18. KMKurt Metzger6:19

       ... was saying that but, you know, when I left. But, a lot of them work as, still work as metaphors, you know?

   19. JRJoe Rogan6:25

       Yes, yes.

   20. KMKurt Metzger6:26

       Um, the ones that, uh, uh, there's people at all (laughs) levels of smarts and they all need a thing to get on board, so some people need a goofy story to get on board.

   21. JRJoe Rogan6:35

       Right.

   22. KMKurt Metzger6:35

       Like I said, I- I- I don't think that's the linchpin that's harming it. I think it's just, I don't, I don't believe that it transforms people's hearts. Like, there's people that I saw when I was in my re- in- in Jehovah's Witnesses that they had a fucked up life that they turned around.

   23. JRJoe Rogan6:49

       Right, right.

   24. KMKurt Metzger6:49

       Okay? But I don't think that that, it fundamentally changed anything but their behavior. They were just who they were and this gave them a window to be, you know, like a good person.

   25. JRJoe Rogan6:58

       Well, sometimes it's just a sc- a scaffolding.

   26. KMKurt Metzger7:00

       Right.

   27. JRJoe Rogan7:00

       You just need something to sort of build on-

   28. KMKurt Metzger7:02

       Yeah, a structure.

   29. JRJoe Rogan7:02

       ... hold onto, yeah.

   30. KMKurt Metzger7:03

       A lot of people never had a structure.
5. 9:31 – 15:42

   Recorded music, space messages, and the Pioneer plaque “intergalactic dick pic”

   1. JRJoe Rogan9:31

      Well, you know what's interesting about music is like our lifetimes and our parents' lifetimes are like the first times in human history where people had music collected-

   2. KMKurt Metzger9:40

      Oh, right.

   3. JRJoe Rogan9:40

      ... where they could listen to it over and over and over again. Right?

   4. KMKurt Metzger9:42

      Yeah.

   5. JRJoe Rogan9:42

      Our grand, there, our grandparents were like probably the first. Like my grandparents came over, uh, from Italy and from Ireland in the early 1900s. So when they were coming over here, I guess they had record players, but how prevalent were they? And what kind of music did they have? And like, you know-

   6. KMKurt Metzger9:58

      I thought they had to like stand around the window (laughs) of a rich person's house.

   7. JRJoe Rogan10:01

      (laughs) They would all sing, harrowing.

   8. KMKurt Metzger10:02

      Like a, like a dead, somebody cra- a slave cranks the handle.

   9. JRJoe Rogan10:05

      Yeah. But like, where was the recordings? You know what I'm saying? Like there weren't that prevalent. If there was-

   10. KMKurt Metzger10:09

       Yeah, right.

   11. JRJoe Rogan10:10

       ... there- there certainly were some, you know, they had recorded music before then, but it's not like it was on your phone.

   12. KMKurt Metzger10:15

       Did-

   13. JRJoe Rogan10:15

       You know?

   14. KMKurt Metzger10:15

       ... didn't we send... You know that, that gold record we sent into space that has like-

   15. JRJoe Rogan10:20

       Yeah.

   16. KMKurt Metzger10:20

       ... a picture of like s- man, a transphobic picture of a man and a woman (laughs) ?

   17. JRJoe Rogan10:24

       Does it have a dress? Does the woman have a dress?

   18. KMKurt Metzger10:25

       The woman has a dress and there's just those two.

   19. JRJoe Rogan10:27

       No. Doesn't she just have breasts? But she's, she's... Do you know what the image looks like? See if you can-

   20. KMKurt Metzger10:32

       Oh dude, it's hilarious.

   21. JRJoe Rogan10:32

       You don't know, uh, one-

   22. KMKurt Metzger10:33

       And then, uh, the music, old- old, like some-

   23. JRJoe Rogan10:35

       Yeah.

   24. KMKurt Metzger10:35

       ... blues guy, like old- old Catfish Willie or s- you know, like some old-timey-

   25. JRJoe Rogan10:39

       Something like that. Yeah.

   26. KMKurt Metzger10:40

       Yeah.

   27. JRJoe Rogan10:40

       So they just got some cool shit to make us look interesting.

   28. KMKurt Metzger10:43

       It's a very old re-

   29. JRJoe Rogan10:43

       Just a drawing. (laughs)

   30. KMKurt Metzger10:44

       Yeah. (laughs)
6. 15:42 – 17:50

   Operation Paperclip and the uneasy legacy of Nazi scientists in the space program

   1. KMKurt Metzger15:42

      That's right, didn't we get all... Like Wernher von Braun or... Oh, yeah.

   2. JRJoe Rogan15:46

      Oh, yeah.

   3. KMKurt Metzger15:46

      (laughs)

   4. JRJoe Rogan15:46

      Dude, Wernher von Braun was a legit Nazi. They used to hang the slowest Jews in front of his rocket factory in Berlin. Yeah.

   5. KMKurt Metzger15:55

      Jesus.

   6. JRJoe Rogan15:55

      They hung them in front of every... Oh, dude. The Simon Wiesenthal Center said that if he was alive, they'd prosecute him for crimes against humanity.

   7. KMKurt Metzger16:01

      What do you mean the slowest? Did they have a race?

   8. JRJoe Rogan16:02

      Like, they had something where they would m- make everybody work faster and harder by killing the slow...

   9. KMKurt Metzger16:08

      Oh, where he hung all the slow Jews. That's what-

   10. JRJoe Rogan16:10

       They put the slowest guys, the slowest girls, whoever they... You know.

   11. KMKurt Metzger16:13

       Jesus.

   12. JRJoe Rogan16:14

       The Jewish, uh, prisoners, and they would hang them. Yeah. Dude, there's... And-

   13. KMKurt Metzger16:18

       I remember him from, like, a Disney thing about rocket science.

   14. JRJoe Rogan16:21

       He was a part of Operation Paperclip.

   15. KMKurt Metzger16:23

       Right.

   16. JRJoe Rogan16:23

       There he is right there. And Operation Paperclip imported all these Nazi scientists to run NASA.

   17. KMKurt Metzger16:30

       I knew that.

   18. JRJoe Rogan16:31

       Yeah.

   19. KMKurt Metzger16:31

       But I didn't, I didn't know-

   20. JRJoe Rogan16:32

       He's a part of that.

   21. KMKurt Metzger16:32

       I thought he was always like, "No, I wasn't with those guys." I was just like-

   22. JRJoe Rogan16:35

       Bro, look at him chilling.

   23. NANarrator16:37

       (laughs)

   24. JRJoe Rogan16:37

       Put... Go to that picture again.

   25. NANarrator16:38

       Oh, hold on. Sorry.

   26. JRJoe Rogan16:40

       Just stop and think about that. This dude was a Nazi in Germany.

   27. KMKurt Metzger16:44

       Yeah.

   28. JRJoe Rogan16:44

       During World War II, comes back and he's running our space program with his feet up on a desk.

   29. KMKurt Metzger16:50

       Do you wanna go to space or do you wanna get hung up on people's Nazi past?

   30. JRJoe Rogan16:54

       (laughs)
7. 17:50 – 23:09

   When does standup come back? Testing limits, snitch culture, and COVID enforcement

   1. JRJoe Rogan17:50

      Yeah. He shouldn't be taking time off. When do you think we'll be able to stand-

   2. KMKurt Metzger17:53

      No one should.

   3. JRJoe Rogan17:53

      When do you think we'll be able to do standup again, if you're okay?

   4. KMKurt Metzger17:55

      I was gonna ask you.

   5. JRJoe Rogan17:57

      Oh, shit. That's the problem, right?

   6. KMKurt Metzger18:00

      (laughs) When everyone can get a test for COVID-19?

   7. JRJoe Rogan18:03

      No. No, the problem is wh- when... Well, you think that'll be it?

   8. KMKurt Metzger18:06

      Um-... I don't know. I didn't, I didn't realize that the tests were so, uh, just, they're around. I thought ... Is it just in some states they don't have the tests?

   9. JRJoe Rogan18:13

      Well, some places don't have 'em and there's, there's that. There's also that there's some tests that are FDA approved and some aren't. And why that, that is the case, I'm not gonna speculate, 'cause I, I really wouldn't know what I'm talking about.

   10. KMKurt Metzger18:28

       Probably whoever fucking-

   11. JRJoe Rogan18:30

       I'd just be pretending. Could be.

   12. KMKurt Metzger18:30

       Yeah.

   13. JRJoe Rogan18:31

       I don't ... I would be pretending if I knew.

   14. KMKurt Metzger18:32

       Whoever flew on the Epstein plane-

   15. JRJoe Rogan18:34

       Right.

   16. KMKurt Metzger18:34

       ... with the FDA (laughs) guy.

   17. JRJoe Rogan18:36

       But the, uh, company I use is, uh, they're very confident that their tests work. And they say even though they're not FDA approved-

   18. KMKurt Metzger18:44

       If they're wrong-

   19. JRJoe Rogan18:44

       ... it's for your wellbeing, for, for your own knowledge.

   20. KMKurt Metzger18:47

       D- is it that they're incorrect mostly with false positives? Or they won't tell you and you did have it?

   21. JRJoe Rogan18:52

       I don't know. It's a good question.

   22. KMKurt Metzger18:54

       'Cause if it's false-

   23. JRJoe Rogan18:55

       It's a good question.

   24. KMKurt Metzger18:55

       ... if they tell you that you had and you didn't, that's not quite as bad.

   25. JRJoe Rogan18:58

       Yeah.

   26. KMKurt Metzger18:58

       It's a little more safe than sorry than a ...

   27. JRJoe Rogan19:00

       He ... The doctor said they've had many positives. They've had plenty of positives. And a lot of people that, uh, just had, like, a little bit of a, of a cough for a few days and it went away and it turned out to be positive.

   28. KMKurt Metzger19:11

       Really?

   29. JRJoe Rogan19:11

       And then ... Yeah. And some people with no symptoms at all.

   30. KMKurt Metzger19:13

       Okay. So if you just had a cough and it went away in a few days, w- does that mean you don't get-
8. 23:09 – 30:40

   China travel stories: materialism, social credit logic, and standup as a political tightrope

   1. KMKurt Metzger23:09

      Dude. Did you ever go there?

   2. JRJoe Rogan23:10

      I've never been to China. I've been to Taiwan, though.

   3. KMKurt Metzger23:13

      Oh. Taiwan's very different, I think.

   4. JRJoe Rogan23:14

      Is it?

   5. KMKurt Metzger23:14

      I've never been to Taiwan, but I went to the, you know-

   6. JRJoe Rogan23:17

      Mm-hmm.

   7. KMKurt Metzger23:17

      ... Mainland, the big island (laughs) of China.

   8. JRJoe Rogan23:19

      Yeah.

   9. KMKurt Metzger23:19

      And, uh, it's ve- ... It was the most materialistic, like ... You know, h- having big labels on your clo- ... There were all these fake Ed Hardy jackets that I guess are very expensive and, and they would have, like, a ... Like, remember Minnie Pearl that had that big price tag on her fucking he-

   10. JRJoe Rogan23:34

       Yes.

   11. KMKurt Metzger23:34

       It was, like, that big. And it'd be hanging off a very obviously not Ed Hardy ... (laughs)

   12. JRJoe Rogan23:39

       Dude, there's a sneaker where it's in style to wear the label. We had a f- an, a shit fit about it on this podcast. What's it called again, Jamie?

   13. NANarrator23:47

       Uh, Off- ... Well, Off-White shoes. They have a label on.

   14. JRJoe Rogan23:50

       Yes. There you go. Thank you.

   15. KMKurt Metzger23:51

       Is it in st- (laughs)

   16. JRJoe Rogan23:51

       You're supposed to ... It's a giant plastic tag. I hope it's a GPS tracker that just tracks dummies.

   17. KMKurt Metzger23:57

       (laughs) It might be. I, I would-

   18. JRJoe Rogan23:58

       (laughs) You're looking at all these dummies with these tags on their feet. Look at, look at s-

   19. KMKurt Metzger24:01

       No. That means, like-

   20. JRJoe Rogan24:02

       Let's see what they do, the people that keep that shit on their feet. Let's see what they do.

   21. KMKurt Metzger24:05

       (laughs) That's the biggest insult you could say to someone, is like, "You're p- ... I heard you're poor." Like, tha- that's a terrible, terrible insult there.

   22. JRJoe Rogan24:12

       ... why would it say, "I heard you're poor"?

   23. KMKurt Metzger24:14

       Uh, uh, it's just a way that people insult each other, like, "Oh, you're poor." Like-

   24. JRJoe Rogan24:18

       Oh. (laughs)

   25. KMKurt Metzger24:18

       That's the meanest thing you can say.

   26. JRJoe Rogan24:20

       Oh. (laughs)

   27. KMKurt Metzger24:20

       I mean, it's probably not the meanest, like go-

   28. JRJoe Rogan24:22

       To those people-

   29. KMKurt Metzger24:22

       ... go walk in a tiger mouth is the meanest, but-

   30. JRJoe Rogan24:25

       But to ... So if someone said ... Y- you're talking about in China?
9. 30:40 – 34:21

   Outrage economy: Elon Musk vs CNN, Twitter pile-ons, and ‘rage journalism’

   1. JRJoe Rogan30:40

      Well, the problem is, it's like a cry wolf thing. It's like, there are some things that... Like, did you see the, the Elon Musk, uh, beef that he got in with, uh, someone who is a reporter for CNN?

   2. KMKurt Metzger30:51

      Yeah. Why? Okay. Why are they so anti-him?

   3. JRJoe Rogan30:54

      I don't know. I don't know, but it didn't make any sense, because he said, "Are you-"

   4. KMKurt Metzger30:58

      It's the respirator thing.

   5. JRJoe Rogan30:59

      Yeah. And he said-

   6. KMKurt Metzger30:59

      Yeah.

   7. JRJoe Rogan30:59

      ... "Are you aware that there's a search function on Twitter?"

   8. KMKurt Metzger31:02

      And then they played little semantic games to f- to get-

   9. JRJoe Rogan31:04

      Well, he started re-tweeting these different nurses that are showing these respirators and they're like thanking him and smiling-

   10. KMKurt Metzger31:11

       Right.

   11. JRJoe Rogan31:11

       ... and, and holding up the Tesla sign.

   12. KMKurt Metzger31:13

       (laughs)

   13. JRJoe Rogan31:13

       And he showed all the different places that are getting those respirators-

   14. KMKurt Metzger31:16

       Yeah, right.

   15. JRJoe Rogan31:16

       ... and explained. And they're still, like-

   16. KMKurt Metzger31:19

       They're not gonna go back on it, 'cause so, so now they go-

   17. JRJoe Rogan31:21

       They're not retracting it.

   18. KMKurt Metzger31:22

       "Well, they're not technically respirators. They're a different kind of thing."

   19. JRJoe Rogan31:25

       It was different ones.

   20. KMKurt Metzger31:25

       And they are respirators, by the way.

   21. JRJoe Rogan31:26

       It was different ones for different places, I believe.

   22. KMKurt Metzger31:29

       It's ones hospitals asked him to get.

   23. JRJoe Rogan31:31

       Right.

   24. KMKurt Metzger31:31

       And they are respirators. They're non-invasive respirators. It's bullshit.

   25. JRJoe Rogan31:34

       They're CPAP machines.

   26. KMKurt Metzger31:34

       It's a warm, yeah.

   27. JRJoe Rogan31:35

       Yes, it, but it's pumping oxygen into your, into your lungs, right? It's a type of a respirator, isn't it?

   28. KMKurt Metzger31:41

       I don't know. I don't have-

   29. JRJoe Rogan31:42

       It's not-

   30. KMKurt Metzger31:42

       ... COVID-19. I got tested.
10. 34:21 – 49:49

    Cults without gods: social justice purity tests, ex-members, and why kindness matters

    1. KMKurt Metzger34:21

       Well, by the way, when you brought up the cult thing in the beginning, it, that's what it is. It's like-

    2. JRJoe Rogan34:25

       Yeah.

    3. KMKurt Metzger34:26

       ... that's a certain kind of cult and you can't talk anybody out of being in a cult. Like if, especially when I was like a deep believer, no one would have, you wouldn't have shown me any evidence or anything that would-

    4. JRJoe Rogan34:36

       Yeah.

    5. KMKurt Metzger34:36

       ... have made me turn from my cult. When people leave, it's because it didn't, when you need it, need it to do what it's supposed to do, it didn't do that for you when you needed it.

    6. JRJoe Rogan34:46

       Mm-hmm.

    7. KMKurt Metzger34:46

       So that, that's how people leave. They don't leave because you yell at them and tell them they're stupid or any of that. So all these, uh, sock just types are the same way. They're, as it fails for them, you, you can see people now like, "I'm not doing it."

    8. JRJoe Rogan34:57

       Kilstein.

    9. KMKurt Metzger34:57

       Jamie Kilstein was one of the first.

    10. JRJoe Rogan34:58

        Kilstein, yeah.

    11. KMKurt Metzger34:58

        Right?

    12. JRJoe Rogan34:59

        Well, he's the, he's the best example, in my opinion, because he's been like really honest about-

    13. KMKurt Metzger35:04

        Yeah, right.

    14. JRJoe Rogan35:04

        ... how gross he felt when he was like attacked and people on Twitter-

    15. KMKurt Metzger35:08

        I talked to him after.

    16. JRJoe Rogan35:08

        Yeah.

    17. KMKurt Metzger35:08

        And, and he was like an ex-cult guy. It was crazy.

    18. JRJoe Rogan35:11

        Yeah. And then they went after him and he was like, "Oh shit." Like, no one's safe. (laughs)

    19. KMKurt Metzger35:15

        Well, so that's, that's the, it's the running out of fuel for these fucking things. So, so that's why-

    20. JRJoe Rogan35:20

        It's the fossil fuel?

    21. KMKurt Metzger35:21

        Yeah. I, I mean, they're just gonna dig through all of it. And it's like-

    22. JRJoe Rogan35:23

        It's-

    23. KMKurt Metzger35:23

        ... polluting and it's... (laughs)

    24. JRJoe Rogan35:25

        That's why they go into like '83. 1983, you touched someone's vagina.

    25. KMKurt Metzger35:29

        Who was 1983?

    26. JRJoe Rogan35:30

        Um, 1983, the, the, the 1980s one was actually, um-

    27. KMKurt Metzger35:35

        Wait, who-

    28. JRJoe Rogan35:35

        ... the guy from Star Trek-

    29. KMKurt Metzger35:37

        Oh.

    30. JRJoe Rogan35:37

        ... got in trouble.
11. 49:49 – 59:17

    Woke branding and marketing: Brawny, Gillette, and corporate “engagement” traps

    1. KMKurt Metzger49:49

       "Strength has no gender."

    2. JRJoe Rogan49:51

       What is that?

    3. KMKurt Metzger49:52

       It's a Brawny-

    4. JRJoe Rogan49:52

       Is that a Brawny commercial? Please-

    5. NANarrator49:54

       Yeah.

    6. JRJoe Rogan49:54

       ... don't say that's real.

    7. NANarrator49:55

       Yeah.

    8. KMKurt Metzger49:55

       Yeah.

    9. NANarrator49:55

       Yeah, it's fine. I didn't get it.

    10. JRJoe Rogan49:56

        "Strength has no gender." That's true, I guess.

    11. KMKurt Metzger50:03

        Why are they in a... Well, they... Wow, it looks really like a lesbian book club of some kind. (laughs) Like, look at the...

    12. JRJoe Rogan50:09

        There are definitely women that are stronger than some men.

    13. KMKurt Metzger50:12

        Yeah, well, I-

    14. JRJoe Rogan50:12

        So I get it, but-

    15. KMKurt Metzger50:13

        I don't know why... I don't... First of all, I don't even know why, why a paper towel would tell me anything.

    16. JRJoe Rogan50:18

        Well, not only that, why is it assuming that I don't think that women are strong? (laughs) It's assuming it. That's why they have that ad.

    17. KMKurt Metzger50:24

        Well, it's not ad... It's not an ad. Yeah.

    18. JRJoe Rogan50:25

        It says, "Strength has no gender." Well, okay, listen to this.

    19. KMKurt Metzger50:27

        It's at women, it's at women.

    20. JRJoe Rogan50:28

        Okay, but listen.

    21. KMKurt Metzger50:29

        Yeah.

    22. JRJoe Rogan50:29

        What if it was us? What if it was a co- a bunch of meathead-looking men standing there that said, "Strength has no gender"?

    23. KMKurt Metzger50:34

        'Cause you go outside, dude.

    24. JRJoe Rogan50:35

        People would be like, "Hey, fuck you."

    25. KMKurt Metzger50:36

        (laughs) Right.

    26. JRJoe Rogan50:37

        "Fuck you. We know you're strong."

    27. KMKurt Metzger50:39

        Right.

    28. JRJoe Rogan50:39

        "Stop. Stop. Women are strong too." Like, "Okay, I didn't say you weren't."

    29. KMKurt Metzger50:43

        Well...

    30. JRJoe Rogan50:43

        "I just said strength has no gender, and here's h- me and my friend."
12. 59:17 – 1:06:29

    Comedy Store chaos on Twitch: nudity bits, Bert’s shirt, and why it lands differently by gender

    1. JRJoe Rogan59:17

       Did you see Joey Diaz's balls were on Twitch? Mm-hmm.

    2. KMKurt Metzger59:20

       No. They got- Whoa.

    3. JRJoe Rogan59:21

       The Comedy Store got in trouble, and there's like a, a real violation.

    4. KMKurt Metzger59:25

       Wait.

    5. JRJoe Rogan59:25

       What is it? A FTC or FD?

    6. KMKurt Metzger59:27

       Wait a minute.

    7. JRJoe Rogan59:27

       What is this? The FDA might've violated him. (laughs)

    8. KMKurt Metzger59:30

       (laughs)

    9. JRJoe Rogan59:31

       Jo- they do it at Comedy Store live-

    10. KMKurt Metzger59:34

        (laughs)

    11. JRJoe Rogan59:34

        ... fucking, um, quarantine podcast.

    12. KMKurt Metzger59:36

        Why would he get to his balls?

    13. JRJoe Rogan59:37

        'Cause he pulls 'em out. He's bored.

    14. KMKurt Metzger59:39

        No.

    15. JRJoe Rogan59:39

        So Joey Diaz just pulls his balls out, and he's holding onto them-

    16. KMKurt Metzger59:42

        (laughs)

    17. JRJoe Rogan59:42

        ... like he's got two kitten heads in an old lady's pantyhose. (laughs) I mean, they're fuck- they're the biggest balls you've ever seen in your life.

    18. KMKurt Metzger59:49

        Isn't that a violation of Twitch to fully have your balls? (laughs)

    19. JRJoe Rogan59:52

        Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah, they got kicked off of Twitch. It wasn't good. But you gotta see the video.

    20. KMKurt Metzger59:56

        (laughs)

    21. JRJoe Rogan59:56

        (laughs) The video's hilarious. Can you s- can you find the video? Yeah, yeah, yeah. Uh-huh. I have it on my phone. I saved it. Here's how good it was. It was so good, I screened ...

    22. KMKurt Metzger1:00:04

        (laughs)

    23. JRJoe Rogan1:00:04

        ... I screen recorded it 'cause I'm like, "This is gonna go away. They're gonna pull this down 'cause people are communists, and they don't, they don't wanna see something amazing." So watch this here.

    24. KMKurt Metzger1:00:14

        (laughs)

    25. JRJoe Rogan1:00:14

        So, so-

    26. KMKurt Metzger1:00:15

        Wait.

    27. JRJoe Rogan1:00:15

        ... look. Th- that's a screenshot of someone filming it.

    28. KMKurt Metzger1:00:18

        That looks like, uh, from ... dude, I thought he had fake balls-

    29. JRJoe Rogan1:00:20

        No, those are real.

    30. KMKurt Metzger1:00:21

        ... as a joke.

Episode duration: 3:18:01