Joe Rogan Experience #1464 - Duncan Trussell

1. 0:00 – 15:00

   It's hilarious that your…

   1. JRJoe Rogan0:01

      It's hilarious that your biggest concern was getting stuff in your beard and me not telling you about it.

   2. DTDuncan Trussell0:05

      (laughs)

   3. JRJoe Rogan0:06

      You've got a strange one going on, man, 'cause you're kind of, like, trimming the sides a little bit and then you're puffing out here-

   4. DTDuncan Trussell0:11

      Yeah.

   5. JRJoe Rogan0:11

      ... in sort of a bow tie fashion.

   6. DTDuncan Trussell0:13

      You're looking at the struggle between who I was and who I am.

   7. JRJoe Rogan0:18

      (laughs)

   8. DTDuncan Trussell0:18

      Why am I doing this? It's the pandemic. I got, like, let the pandemic beard go all the way. And yet, there's still this sense of, like, (sighs) "We've got to keep civilization. I can't with... I get... "

   9. JRJoe Rogan0:29

      Mm.

   10. DTDuncan Trussell0:29

       What's next? If it goes all the way up, you know, what's gonna start happening? I'm already gardening now. What's next, you know?

   11. JRJoe Rogan0:36

       (laughs)

   12. DTDuncan Trussell0:36

       Where does it go? How d- how crazy can you go in a compound?

   13. JRJoe Rogan0:40

       Now that you're a father, um, and this craziness went down, and your protection, protection instincts, protective instincts kick in, have you been thinking about moving elsewhere?

   14. DTDuncan Trussell0:50

       Yeah. I mean, yeah. I was thinking about that.

   15. JRJoe Rogan0:52

       Like Asheville?

   16. DTDuncan Trussell0:53

       Before... Uh, yep. We've thought of Asheville.

   17. JRJoe Rogan0:55

       Yeah. Asheville's nice.

   18. DTDuncan Trussell0:56

       We've thought Georgia, we've thought... You know, we, we, it's w- it's a constant consideration, especially when you have a kid. And aside from, like, apocalyptic prepper bullshit, there's j- uh, just a general feeling of, like, y- you know, I think if I w- were a little boy, I would wanna be in a place where there's creeks and a place I, I could run-

   19. JRJoe Rogan1:19

       Yes.

   20. DTDuncan Trussell1:19

       ... and, like, woods and forests and, like, stuff like that.

   21. JRJoe Rogan1:22

       Yeah.

   22. DTDuncan Trussell1:22

       So there's that consideration too. God, I hope my wife isn't listening to this 'cause she's always like, "Maybe we should move somewhere in the country." And I'm like-

   23. JRJoe Rogan1:31

       Mm.

   24. DTDuncan Trussell1:31

       ... "We gotta stay in LA! We gotta stay here now, now especially!" It's like, well, do we? And like...

   25. JRJoe Rogan1:36

       Well, Duncan, you now have a successful Netflix show.

   26. DTDuncan Trussell1:39

       Yeah.

   27. JRJoe Rogan1:39

       Number two in the country on IMDb.

   28. DTDuncan Trussell1:42

       It... On Rotten Tomatoes.

   29. JRJoe Rogan1:43

       Whatever it is.

   30. DTDuncan Trussell1:44

       Yeah. Well, I'm-
2. 15:00 – 30:00

   (laughs) …

   1. DTDuncan Trussell15:00

      you know, this character goes into a multiverse, -verse simulator and chooses a new avatar for every place that he goes. So it's like-

   2. JRJoe Rogan15:07

      (laughs)

   3. DTDuncan Trussell15:07

      ... he p- he... So you have to take that character and put it in a completely different drawing that is that character and still maintain the body language that you're maintaining in that character to produce continuity. That's one of the challenges of the show, is like... And also the conversations you end up having just to come up with, like, um, the, you know, the char- his hat, or his... What's he gonna wear? Like, for example, here's how cool Penn is and how much he loves, like, people who love Adventure Time, is... One of the things he was saying is, you know, people are probably gonna want to co- cosplay Clancy at Comic-Con and stuff.

   4. JRJoe Rogan15:46

      (laughs)

   5. DTDuncan Trussell15:46

      And, and he doesn't have any-

   6. JRJoe Rogan15:47

      (sighs)

   7. DTDuncan Trussell15:47

      ... he doesn't have anything to carry anything. He doesn't have pockets. So if people are cosplaying him, they're not gonna have anywhere they could put their stuff. So-

   8. JRJoe Rogan15:56

      (laughs)

   9. DTDuncan Trussell15:56

      ... we should... Let's give him, like, a, a bag. And so-

   10. JRJoe Rogan16:00

       That's hilarious.

   11. DTDuncan Trussell16:00

       ... Clancy ended up with this cool bag that he carries around.

   12. JRJoe Rogan16:03

       Oh my God.

   13. DTDuncan Trussell16:04

       Yeah, yeah.

   14. JRJoe Rogan16:05

       For the cosplay.

   15. DTDuncan Trussell16:06

       Yeah, man. For the, for the people.

   16. JRJoe Rogan16:08

       Respect to the streets.

   17. DTDuncan Trussell16:09

       Yeah, exactly. That, that.

   18. JRJoe Rogan16:12

       (laughs)

   19. DTDuncan Trussell16:12

       'Cause, 'cause that's the-

   20. JRJoe Rogan16:13

       (sighs) .

   21. DTDuncan Trussell16:13

       ... the world of animation and comics, man.

   22. JRJoe Rogan16:15

       Listen, man. It's really easy to make fun of cosplay, but that's adorable.

   23. DTDuncan Trussell16:19

       Dude-

   24. JRJoe Rogan16:19

       That's a, that's a beautiful thing. Where's the bag? Oh, there it is. Let me show 'em.

   25. DTDuncan Trussell16:22

       Joe, if you... Let me tell you something.

   26. JRJoe Rogan16:24

       (laughs)

   27. DTDuncan Trussell16:24

       If you didn't make fun of cosplay, I would be worried about you. It would be like... I would be like, "Are you all right, Joe?"

   28. JRJoe Rogan16:29

       Yeah, they can't be mad at it either. You can't be mad if you're dressing like Ultraman, someone's shitting on you.

   29. DTDuncan Trussell16:34

       No.

   30. JRJoe Rogan16:34

       You can't be mad.
3. 30:00 – 45:00

   Yeah. …

   1. DTDuncan Trussell30:00

      it looks exactly like the way your description of getting completely blasted on psilocybin probably looks compared to what you saw. It's a downgraded weird version of it. And so, you know, if-... people like Alex and Alison or Terence McKenna, you know, they're so good at going into that place and maintaining some kind of, like, long-term memory that they can come back and fully articulate it in a way that, uh, we, as people who have been there, know what it is. And then there's something comforting in that, because that does point to the idea that this is a place. We're not just mashing down the watch or we're not just distorting, uh, our biotechnology. This is a shared place. We're all seeing the same thing. Now, that, I'm n- you know, that could be a synaptic place that just, or a genetic place that happens to be in humans or something, you know. We'll never be able to answer that, probably, in our lifetimes. But, uh, to me, it's, regardless, it's still a place. And to get back to what you were saying about our current concept of travel, you know, or our current idea that, "Well, I need to get my meat body-"

   2. JRJoe Rogan31:11

      Yeah.

   3. DTDuncan Trussell31:11

      ... "over here because if I don't, then that means I'm there."

   4. JRJoe Rogan31:13

      (laughs)

   5. DTDuncan Trussell31:13

      And, you know, that's how I know I've been there, because I was there in my body. And then, so, so ... You know, this is like, uh, the guy who founded the Hare Krishnas, his divine grace A.C. Bhaktivedanta Swami Prabhupada, he would show, he would, in his writings, he would like, was derisive of the way, the idea that people were sending a metal ship to the moon with bodies inside of it. He would say like, that shows where human consciousness is right now, because they think they're their bodies and they think they need to put their body in like, this box and send it to the moon because they haven't figured out yet that you don't need metal to send yourself to anywhere in the universe that you want to go.

   6. JRJoe Rogan31:54

      Hmm.

   7. DTDuncan Trussell31:54

      It just requires yoga and discipline, you know, which is hilarious. And also, I, you know, I rem- I remember reading that and thinking like, but I still want there to be interstellar fucking travel, man.

   8. JRJoe Rogan32:04

      (laughs)

   9. DTDuncan Trussell32:05

      You know, like, I still-

   10. JRJoe Rogan32:06

       (huffs)

   11. DTDuncan Trussell32:06

       ... want to get in the box and travel to the moon. That being said, you know, I think that you're onto something when you are contemplating right now that maybe our idea of m- going to one place or another with our meat bodies could be looked at in the future as a little archaic.

   12. JRJoe Rogan32:22

       Well, when they talk about there being different dimensions, right? Like when they use quantum physics to determine the number of dimensions, they've, they've determined there's multiple dimensions that we don't have access to, right?

   13. DTDuncan Trussell32:33

       Yeah.

   14. JRJoe Rogan32:34

       Like, is that how it works or am I reading it in a dumb way? Because I believe there's ... What, what does, like, what do they think there are? Do they think there's nine or 11 dimensions?

   15. JVJamie Vernon32:43

       I mean, so (coughs) usually when I look this up, it's 11, but up, up to 26, maybe some people even think so.

   16. JRJoe Rogan32:49

       Up to 26?

   17. JVJamie Vernon32:50

       Yeah.

   18. JRJoe Rogan32:50

       First of all, when those dudes are writing that shit down on the yellow legal pads, we all have to take them, we have to- to- t- take their word for it.

   19. DTDuncan Trussell32:56

       Yeah, sure.

   20. JRJoe Rogan32:57

       You know? Yeah, okay. You know, how many people know what the fuck they're writing down on those goddamn yellow legal pads? When you see those physics dudes and they're doing these crazy-

   21. DTDuncan Trussell33:06

       Oh, yeah.

   22. JRJoe Rogan33:06

       ... like ... So-

   23. DTDuncan Trussell33:06

       Yeah, we have to take their word for it.

   24. JRJoe Rogan33:08

       So apparently, mathematically, right, that's why they believe there's at least 11 dimensions. So what does that mean? So it means we have access to some dimensions and we don't have access to others?

   25. DTDuncan Trussell33:20

       Yeah.

   26. JRJoe Rogan33:20

       Theoretically, do they exist? Is there, is it possible to transverse the distance between this dimension and that dimension?

   27. DTDuncan Trussell33:28

       Man, this is the thing, as I'm glad you're asking me this, because, uh, you know I got my doctorate at the University of Bro Science-

   28. JRJoe Rogan33:35

       (laughs)

   29. DTDuncan Trussell33:35

       ... and I can't fully answer this question. You see, the ... I don't understand it. I- I've, I-

   30. JRJoe Rogan33:41

       Does it have to do with 5G?
4. 45:00 – 1:00:00

   Huh? Really? …

   1. DTDuncan Trussell45:00

      because we're so limited in our understanding, when I do something, I'm like, "I'm doing this. This is how I did it. I did it." This is like in music, if you write a song and ... or you write music and you're just in the room with somebody, there is some kind of law where they get credit for it, 'cause just they were there. The ... That's a collaboration.

   2. JRJoe Rogan45:19

      Huh? Really?

   3. DTDuncan Trussell45:19

      I'm ... I ... Musicians, I ... I rem- ... Someone explained this to me a long time ago, but it's- it's- ... There's an intense way of quantifying collaboration in music that is a little different than in, like, making, like, uh, other s- ... other forms of media. And, uh, it's ... I think it's a little bit more sophisticated in its, uh, uh, way of looking at that quantification. Like we tell y- ... Every time we finish a podcast, we always have ... Saying, "Damn," whenever we talk it's like, "you bring ..." Like, s- ... Our ... When we're d-

   4. JRJoe Rogan45:46

      Yeah.

   5. DTDuncan Trussell45:46

      ... with these conversations we have, I- I'm not having them all the time. You know what I mean? It's like the ... Us together and Jamie and, like, something about that produces a space where we're able to have these kinds of conversations, and so quantifying that is like ... How would you even fucking quantify that? But-

   6. JRJoe Rogan46:04

      Right.

   7. DTDuncan Trussell46:04

      ... anyway, what I'm saying is-

   8. JRJoe Rogan46:05

      Right. When certain people are around, the people that are creating the music, the music is better.

   9. DTDuncan Trussell46:09

      Yeah. That.

   10. JRJoe Rogan46:10

       Yeah.

   11. DTDuncan Trussell46:10

       You know? It ... But so it ... To get back to the weirdo idea of, like, technology not even being a thing we're making but that we're pretending we're making-

   12. JRJoe Rogan46:17

       Mm-hmm.

   13. DTDuncan Trussell46:17

       ... because we can't see the fact that technology is crystallizing in our timeframe and that as part of that crystallization, because it's such a, uh, uh ... it's such an insane visitation, we have to, in our brains, invent a reason that it's happening. And so we're making it, and someone's like, "Oh, I have this idea. I'm gonna work on this thing that's gonna lead to a quantum computer that's gonna lead to a thing to a thing." And then all the sudden the quantum computer starts giving ideas about, "Well, why don't you try this?" And then, and then who fucking came up with that? And then-

   14. JRJoe Rogan46:47

       (laughs)

   15. DTDuncan Trussell46:47

       You know what I mean? (laughs) And then-

   16. JRJoe Rogan46:53

       Ah.

   17. DTDuncan Trussell46:53

       And then ... And that's the last phase before the veil lifts, and boom. That's the singularity.

   18. JRJoe Rogan46:59

       Mm.

   19. DTDuncan Trussell46:59

       And that's ... You know? And it's, it's not ... We didn't make the singularity. It- it ... We're a reflection of it. That's just when this particular zone or node or whatever you wanna call it, it- it gets opened for business, so to speak. Well-

   20. JRJoe Rogan47:12

       Well, if it wanted to prepare us for abandoning life as usual, this would be a good way to start it.

   21. DTDuncan Trussell47:18

       Yeah. Yeah. I mean-

   22. JRJoe Rogan47:19

       Start it with a little pandemic, lock everybody inside for a little bit, complete upending-

   23. DTDuncan Trussell47:25

       Yeah.

   24. JRJoe Rogan47:25

       ... of what's ... all that's normal-

   25. DTDuncan Trussell47:26

       Yeah.

   26. JRJoe Rogan47:26

       ... in terms of society.

   27. DTDuncan Trussell47:28

       Yeah, man. I mean, that's the ... That is the, uh, I- I ... And, you know, I was driving over. I'm like, "I don't ... I wanna talk about, like, all the different conspiracies about it with Rogan, but I don't want to, either."

   28. JRJoe Rogan47:39

       What kind of conspiracies? About the pandemic?

   29. DTDuncan Trussell47:41

       Yeah.

   30. JRJoe Rogan47:41

       What are the conspiracies you're hearing b- ... other than 5G?
5. 1:00:00 – 1:10:49

   Yeah. …

   1. JRJoe Rogan1:00:00

      are contact, are, uh, stacked on top of each other, not only do they get it, but they get it way worse. Right?

   2. DTDuncan Trussell1:00:06

      Yeah.

   3. JRJoe Rogan1:00:06

      It seems like, what- what's that expression? Viral load, right?

   4. DTDuncan Trussell1:00:10

      Yeah.

   5. JRJoe Rogan1:00:10

      Like, the viral load is greater, and the em- like, if you're around a bunch of sick people, like, there was one awful story about this family in New Jersey. And, like, the mother died, and the, uh, the oldest son died, and the middle son died. Like, three people died from one family vacation or one family, uh, dinner.

   6. DTDuncan Trussell1:00:28

      Mm-hmm.

   7. JRJoe Rogan1:00:28

      They got together and one of them had it and it just spread through the fucking house. So, it's not the flu, you know? It's obviously, it's something way more intense. But the people that'll survive the flu, they'll probably survive that too. But the people that, you know, were kind of hanging on edge, it seems like anybody with a respiratory problem is in deep shit. Anybody who smokes is in deep shit.

   8. DTDuncan Trussell1:00:50

      Yeah.

   9. JRJoe Rogan1:00:50

      People with high blood pressure, diabetes, deep shit.It's not the same with everybody. Other people, like Idris Elba walks it off, you know?

   10. DTDuncan Trussell1:00:57

       Oh, yeah.

   11. JRJoe Rogan1:00:57

       Healthy.

   12. DTDuncan Trussell1:00:58

       I know.

   13. JRJoe Rogan1:00:58

       But he has asthma, apparently.

   14. DTDuncan Trussell1:01:00

       Oh, really?

   15. JRJoe Rogan1:01:00

       Yeah. He had asthma, but he didn't ... You know, there's a lot of people that I don't that ... Chris Cuomo guy seems fine. I know he says he gets chills, but he seems fine.

   16. DTDuncan Trussell1:01:07

       He seems rattled though. You know, I've got, I've got-

   17. JRJoe Rogan1:01:10

       Like the Doctor.

   18. DTDuncan Trussell1:01:10

       I'm talking about... Not, not in a bad way. Yeah, exactly. Like it's ... I, I didn't ... That was one ... Watching him-

   19. JRJoe Rogan1:01:15

       Yeah.

   20. DTDuncan Trussell1:01:15

       ... was one of the things that was legitimately creeping me out, is like as y- you're watching him. And he did a great job holding it together, man. He didn't panic and he like put something out there that was like comforting to some degree. But I could ... You know, I was scanning his eyes and there were moments when I'm like, "Fuck, he's rattled." Like, whatever is happening to him at night (laughs) is bad, bad.

   21. JRJoe Rogan1:01:33

       Why is it happening at night? What is the difference?

   22. DTDuncan Trussell1:01:36

       Uh, y- you know, I don't ... That's just ... I don't understand that.

   23. JRJoe Rogan1:01:39

       If you look fine in the day, how come at night, all of a sudden, everything's all fucked up?

   24. DTDuncan Trussell1:01:42

       Don't ask me, man. I, I don't know. It's like I've noticed though sometimes, if I get sick, night is always worse than the day. I don't know why.

   25. JRJoe Rogan1:01:49

       Hmm.

   26. DTDuncan Trussell1:01:50

       I don't know, man. But the ... Whatever, like whatever the fuck it is, th- to, to me, the ... Like, the part that really sucks, I got friends who are like immunocompromised, man.

   27. JRJoe Rogan1:02:00

       Mm-hmm.

   28. DTDuncan Trussell1:02:01

       And that, that means that like the- i- i- like, they, their, they really will, if they get it, that's ... It's game over, you know?

   29. JRJoe Rogan1:02:08

       Yeah.

   30. DTDuncan Trussell1:02:08

       It's fu- it, it fucking sucks. And so, there's that quality to it too where you're like, you know, statistically, I d- I don't know where I'm at. I- I ... Like, statistically, I think I'm, I'm, I'm on the cusp, you know, but, uh, p- we've got f- all of us have friends that are like dead meat if this thing-

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