Joe Rogan Experience #1466 - Jessimae Peluso

1. 0:00 – 0:40

   Book deals, writing ambitions, and the ‘how to do standup’ book genre

   1. JRJoe Rogan0:00

      Three, two, one. Jessie May.

   2. JPJessimae Peluso0:03

      Rogan.

   3. JRJoe Rogan0:04

      Good to see you.

   4. JPJessimae Peluso0:05

      Joseph. Do people call you Joseph?

   5. JRJoe Rogan0:07

      Uh, my mom does.

   6. JPJessimae Peluso0:08

      Oh, that's sweet.

   7. JRJoe Rogan0:09

      Yeah.

   8. JPJessimae Peluso0:09

      What's your middle name?

   9. JRJoe Rogan0:10

      She's basically a James.

   10. JPJessimae Peluso0:11

       Joseph James sounds like an author.

   11. JRJoe Rogan0:13

       Yes. Hmm, maybe I should write books.

   12. JPJessimae Peluso0:14

       I can't believe you haven't written a book.

   13. JRJoe Rogan0:15

       Ah, I tried.

   14. JPJessimae Peluso0:17

       What-

   15. JRJoe Rogan0:17

       Started doing one o- a long time ago. I had a deal for a book, like, 12 years ago, and the dealing with the editors was so gross. They wanted ... They basically wanted me to just transcribe standup, and I, I wanted to write a bunch of weird shit.

   16. JPJessimae Peluso0:31

       Didn't Judy Carter already do that? You remember the Judy-

   17. JRJoe Rogan0:34

       Ah.

   18. JPJessimae Peluso0:34

       (laughs) Do you remember that book?

   19. JRJoe Rogan0:35

       Yeah. The books on ... Is that the worst genre ever, books on how to do standup?

   20. JPJessimae Peluso0:40

       (laughs) Yeah.

2. 0:40 – 1:53

   Conspiracy tiers: Belzer, JFK, Marilyn Monroe, and ‘snitches get stitches’

   1. JRJoe Rogan0:40

      They might be the most piss poor books ever. Belzer had a pretty good one. Be- Belzer had a decent one. I think it was, uh ... (sighs) What did ... Well, he had a couple of them. He had one on standup, and he had one on UFOs, Bigfoot, and JFK. Belzer is a crazy-

   2. JPJessimae Peluso0:53

      Those all go together.

   3. JRJoe Rogan0:54

      Do you know him? Richard Belzer?

   4. JPJessimae Peluso0:55

      I don't know him personally, but, I mean, he's a legend for sure. He's, he's-

   5. JRJoe Rogan0:58

      He's a crazy conspiracy theorist.

   6. JPJessimae Peluso1:01

      That makes sense.

   7. JRJoe Rogan1:01

      Like, off the deep end.

   8. JPJessimae Peluso1:02

      Yeah.

   9. JRJoe Rogan1:03

      Yeah.

   10. JPJessimae Peluso1:03

       Is he, like ... Rate him with Sam Tripoli. Is it just as crazy?

   11. JRJoe Rogan1:07

       No, maybe more.

   12. JPJessimae Peluso1:08

       Wow.

   13. JRJoe Rogan1:08

       Yeah. He's, he's, uh ... I don't know if they believe in the same things. 'Cause it's funny, like, there's, like, classifications of conspiracy theorists. Like, some conspiracy theorists are bald, balls deep in, like, JFK. If you try to bring up 5G, they're like, "Get the fuck out of here with your 5G."

   14. JPJessimae Peluso1:22

       (laughs) So was Marilyn Monroe.

   15. JRJoe Rogan1:23

       Yeah. Marilyn Monroe?

   16. JPJessimae Peluso1:24

       Balls deep in JFK.

   17. JRJoe Rogan1:25

       Oh, yeah, that's true.

   18. JPJessimae Peluso1:26

       It was a little-

   19. JRJoe Rogan1:27

       Sort of.

   20. JPJessimae Peluso1:27

       ... sex joke. I mean, well I guess he was balls deep in her.

   21. JRJoe Rogan1:29

       Yeah. Allegedly.

   22. JPJessimae Peluso1:30

       But, I mean, who knows? Who knows what they were into behind closed doors? She could've strapped one.

   23. JRJoe Rogan1:33

       That's a good, good conspiracy theory, too. Do you think they killed her?

   24. JPJessimae Peluso1:36

       Oh, yeah.

   25. JRJoe Rogan1:36

       100%, right?

   26. JPJessimae Peluso1:37

       Absolutely.

   27. JRJoe Rogan1:38

       Yeah.

   28. JPJessimae Peluso1:38

       Stitches ... Bitches get snitches.

   29. JRJoe Rogan1:40

       Yeah, something, something happens.

   30. JPJessimae Peluso1:40

       Is that what it is? There's-
3. 1:53 – 4:59

   COVID shutdown anxiety: the economy, uncertainty, and why this crisis stops the world

   1. JPJessimae Peluso1:53

      If ... So if you were gonna write a book today, what would it be about?

   2. JRJoe Rogan1:55

      Oh, I don't know if I would do it today. I don't know. I, I ... Maybe th- maybe this is what I should be doing right now during this COVID time, but I'm using it as an excuse to, uh ... I don't know. Just not, I'm not, I'm not working on standup at all. This is the first time in forever.

   3. JPJessimae Peluso2:11

      Wow.

   4. JRJoe Rogan2:11

      I've ... No writing. I haven't written anything.

   5. JPJessimae Peluso2:13

      Do you feel like it's relaxing, or do you feel any anxiety about having that detach from your day-to-day routine?

   6. JRJoe Rogan2:21

      That's not the anxiety. The anxiety is the world. The anxiety is what, what's happening right now.

   7. JPJessimae Peluso2:25

      General existentialism?

   8. JRJoe Rogan2:26

      Well, the ... Just the fact that the economy has come to a complete screeching halt, and all these people are losing their jobs, and all these people are losing their businesses, and we're not exactly sure what to do. 'Cause there's the hardcore people that are like, "Fuck it, open it up. Keep the women and the old people safe." (laughs) You know what I mean?

   9. JPJessimae Peluso2:44

      I know. (laughs)

   10. JRJoe Rogan2:44

       You know what I mean? There's-

   11. JPJessimae Peluso2:44

       We're fucking fine. First of all, stop making us so weak, okay? Why are we grouped into old, haggard people?

   12. JRJoe Rogan2:49

       I shouldn't have said women. It's very ... Most people aren't women.

   13. JPJessimae Peluso2:51

       What the fuck?

   14. JRJoe Rogan2:51

       Sorry, I made that up.

   15. JPJessimae Peluso2:52

       (laughs)

   16. JRJoe Rogan2:52

       What people are saying is old people.

   17. JPJessimae Peluso2:52

       No, but you're right. It is a thing.

   18. JRJoe Rogan2:54

       Well, you know, women and children first.

   19. JPJessimae Peluso2:55

       Yeah, wom- which we should be for sure.

   20. JRJoe Rogan2:57

       Yeah. Well, on the Titanic you were, right?

   21. JPJessimae Peluso2:58

       Yeah, on the Titanic we were. We, we worked out.

   22. JRJoe Rogan3:00

       That's why everybody loves Leonardo DiCaprio-

   23. JPJessimae Peluso3:01

       (laughs)

   24. JRJoe Rogan3:01

       ... 'cause he died for her.

   25. JPJessimae Peluso3:02

       Paint Me Like Your Little French Girl.

   26. JRJoe Rogan3:04

       Yeah, but meanwhile I'm like, "Can't you both get on that fucking raft?"

   27. JPJessimae Peluso3:06

       I know.

   28. JRJoe Rogan3:07

       It's not that ... Just lie on top of each other. You're already making out. Like, what's-

   29. JPJessimae Peluso3:10

       She, like, picked his little frozen hands off-

   30. JRJoe Rogan3:11

       Yeah. Jesus, like ...
4. 4:59 – 6:27

   Risk comparison: cigarettes, sugar, heart disease—and COVID’s unpredictability

   1. JRJoe Rogan4:59

      You're right. Maybe that is what we'll do next. Maybe ... Listen, 500,000 people in this country alone die prematurely because of cigarettes. And we're just like, "Well, you know, whatever." Imagine if it was Kool-Aid. If Kool-Aid was killing half a million a year.

   2. JPJessimae Peluso5:13

      Well, Kool-Aid is.

   3. JRJoe Rogan5:13

      Imagine if Diet Coke, but it's not.

   4. JPJessimae Peluso5:15

      Sugar kills a lot of fuckers.

   5. JRJoe Rogan5:17

      But it's ... Yeah, but you can ... Yeah, but ... Yes, it does. It does, but not as clearly as cigarettes. Like, you can be healthy and occasionally enjoy Kool-Aid. Like, I don't think-

   6. JPJessimae Peluso5:27

      I agree, but don't you think sugar's just as addictive as nicotine?

   7. JRJoe Rogan5:29

      It's very addictive. You're right. There's a good point, but-

   8. JPJessimae Peluso5:31

      I think if we look at it from a broader spectrum, it ... It ... They're both equally as bad and kill just as many people.

   9. JRJoe Rogan5:37

      They do kill a lot of people.

   10. JPJessimae Peluso5:37

       But I see what you're saying.

   11. JRJoe Rogan5:38

       I don't think they kill as many, 'cause I think heart attacks is higher right now. I guess you would have to lump diabetes in there, too, right?

   12. JPJessimae Peluso5:44

       You would, absolutely.

   13. JRJoe Rogan5:45

       Oh, so, oh, heart attacks, strokes, diabetes.

   14. JPJessimae Peluso5:46

       And what's the highest killer? Heart attacks.

   15. JRJoe Rogan5:49

       Heart attacks, uh, was number one until COVID. COVID took the number one spot on the chart.

   16. JPJessimae Peluso5:53

       (laughs) Woo!

   17. JRJoe Rogan5:54

       Coming in at number one, COVID-19.

   18. JPJessimae Peluso5:57

       (laughs) Coming in, number 19, straight outta Wuhan. He's quick with the slips.

   19. JRJoe Rogan6:02

       Yeah.

   20. JPJessimae Peluso6:02

       Killing bitches.

   21. JRJoe Rogan6:04

       And sneaky.

   22. JPJessimae Peluso6:05

       Yeah, sneaky.

   23. JRJoe Rogan6:05

       Sneaky disease that-... it kills healthy people, and then old people survive it like it's nothing. And then it kills an entire nursing home full of people. And then young people get it and, and die from it. And old people get it and brush it off. And some people have zero symptoms at all, as many as 50% or more.

   24. JPJessimae Peluso6:23

       Yeah, it's wild. It's like-

   25. JRJoe Rogan6:24

       It's-

   26. JPJessimae Peluso6:24

       ... the crack of diseases. It doesn't make sense.

   27. JRJoe Rogan6:26

       It's like a bunch of diseases.

5. 6:27 – 9:50

   Life without travel: comedy pause, airplane ‘farticles,’ and pandemic grief

   1. JPJessimae Peluso6:27

      It is. It does have a lot of characteristics of multiple diseases, and that's why, that's a scary factor for me. Uh, but I'm always grossed out. I mean, you and I travel. We used to. (laughs)

   2. JRJoe Rogan6:35

      Yeah, we used to travel.

   3. JPJessimae Peluso6:36

      Remember wh- remember comedy?

   4. JRJoe Rogan6:38

      But are you enjoying the not flying all the time?

   5. JPJessimae Peluso6:41

      Fuck, yeah.

   6. JRJoe Rogan6:42

      How good is it for your body?

   7. JPJessimae Peluso6:43

      Dude.

   8. JRJoe Rogan6:44

      (laughs)

   9. JPJessimae Peluso6:44

      I feel like I look, like, 15 now. I'm like, ah, (claps hands) I'm chilling. I got my, my plumpness back. I'm, sleep is amazing.

   10. JRJoe Rogan6:53

       Isn't it weird-

   11. JPJessimae Peluso6:53

       I don't have to deal with farticles anymore in fucking airplanes.

   12. JRJoe Rogan6:56

       Oh, God. Yeah.

   13. JPJessimae Peluso6:57

       Dude, there's so, I don't know what it is about flying. I'm sure it's the pressure and the pressurized cabin.

   14. JRJoe Rogan7:01

       People love to fart on airplanes.

   15. JPJessimae Peluso7:02

       God, they let it rip on airplanes. And that's, that's COVID in my face.

   16. JRJoe Rogan7:05

       (laughs)

   17. JPJessimae Peluso7:06

       I'm fine with not dealing with the farts anymore.

   18. JRJoe Rogan7:08

       Imagined if it was killing people, if farts were killing people. If a guy could fart on a plane and half the people on the plane died.

   19. JPJessimae Peluso7:14

       Whoa. You should've met my dad. The, the couple of those cookies would've ripped you right out of your seat. (laughs)

   20. JRJoe Rogan7:18

       (laughs)

   21. JPJessimae Peluso7:18

       Oh, my God.

   22. JRJoe Rogan7:19

       There's something about old man farts.

   23. JPJessimae Peluso7:21

       Oh, they're great. They're legendary.

   24. JRJoe Rogan7:23

       Yeah. Like-

   25. JPJessimae Peluso7:23

       You know?

   26. JRJoe Rogan7:24

       There's something funny about like when you walk into a supermarket right behind an old guy who crop dusted you, and you're like, "You motherfucker."

   27. JPJessimae Peluso7:29

       You're not even mad at him, though. You can't be mad at him.

   28. JRJoe Rogan7:31

       Nope.

   29. JPJessimae Peluso7:32

       That, that fart went to Vietnam.

   30. JRJoe Rogan7:34

       Pro-
6. 9:50 – 14:15

   Front-line medicine and government preparedness: PPE shortages and ‘pandemic team’ confusion

   1. JRJoe Rogan9:50

      It's just, it's, I was reading about this guy who was on an incubator for more than 30 days. And it was a terrifying account of all the, it was in Massachusetts, of all these different ways they were doing, uh, different methods they were doing to try to revive this guy. And the two thing it made m- f- one thing it made me think is, like, thank God there's people out there that can do this, that know wha- how to s- how to keep a guy like this alive.

   2. JPJessimae Peluso10:13

      (laughs)

   3. JRJoe Rogan10:13

      A guy who was a young guy, he was like in his late 30s, I believe, maybe 40s. And he was, uh, married with little kids. And, you know, it was a terrible story, but they figured it out. And they used some crazy machine that wa- it was, uh, bypassing his heart and his lungs. Like, uh, it had to go in through his leg and like, uh, like into, into a major artery I think-

   4. JPJessimae Peluso10:33

      Jesus.

   5. JRJoe Rogan10:33

      ... or something like that. And then they had to keep him, like, basically in a coma, like so that he doesn't move.

   6. JPJessimae Peluso10:39

      Like an induced coma to keep him-

   7. JRJoe Rogan10:40

      Yeah. And then they have-

   8. JPJessimae Peluso10:41

      ... so he can heal?

   9. JRJoe Rogan10:41

      ... they're just trying to pump air into him. Oh my God, it's terrifying.

   10. JPJessimae Peluso10:45

       Yeah, that is terrifying. But-

   11. JRJoe Rogan10:46

       That's why this disease is so strange.

   12. JPJessimae Peluso10:49

       It is. I, I laugh because it's, you s- you made a good point about we're lucky to have people who know how to handle this. I feel like that, you know, with social media and everything, those jobs are not as appealing to people. And who knows, in like 50 years if another thing like this, and we're lucky enough to be alive, and it hits us. Insta- Instagram influencers aren't gonna be able to intubate anybody.

   13. JRJoe Rogan11:08

       Right.

   14. JPJessimae Peluso11:08

       You know what I mean? Like, the girl selling fit tea won't be able to help us.

   15. JRJoe Rogan11:12

       And imagine if your job was, if you thought your job was to help people, which is what most nurses and first responders, I mean, their job is, hey, you know, I'm gonna do a good thing for the, the community. I'm gonna g- do a good thing for people. I'm gonna be there to help people.

   16. JPJessimae Peluso11:28

       Yeah.

   17. JRJoe Rogan11:28

       When they're ill, I'm gonna treat them. I'm gonna help them survive and recover. Like, that's a beautiful thing. But to go from that to all of a sudden you're on the front line of this infectious, infectious virus war, and you could get bit.

   18. JPJessimae Peluso11:42

       You could get bit, and there's not enough PPE in all these places, and it's really scary.

   19. JRJoe Rogan11:46

       Oh, that's-

   20. JPJessimae Peluso11:46

       That's the scariest part. We don't even have the f- the fucking equipment for these people. How is it possible?

   21. JRJoe Rogan11:51

       They have more equipment now than they ever had before, but they just never saw this coming. And, you know, there was a, a pandemic department apparently. And it was... What do we know about that? Was it, it was canceled-

   22. JPJessimae Peluso12:01

       (laughs)

   23. JRJoe Rogan12:02

       ... during the, the Trump administration? They canceled the pandemic?

   24. NANarrator12:05

       I believe, yeah, what I read, (clears throat) excuse me, what I read was that there was like a team in place when, at the transition that-... since that time, which would have been three years ago by now, those, those people are no longer at the jobs that they had. So they would have probably had other positions maybe in the White House or other places.

   25. JRJoe Rogan12:20

       But does the actual position exist anymore?

   26. NANarrator12:22

       I don't ... From what I read, no. Or, like, I don't even know if it was, like, an, an actual position. I think it was-

   27. JRJoe Rogan12:27

       (laughs)

   28. NANarrator12:27

       ... like a team of people-

   29. JRJoe Rogan12:28

       Hmm.

   30. NANarrator12:28

       ... that had other jobs.
7. 14:15 – 17:15

   Humans, attention, and the ‘big picture’: microbiomes, gratitude, and talking to plants/cells

   1. JRJoe Rogan14:15

      Well, 'cause we have a really weird inability to pay attention to anything that doesn't affect us immediately.

   2. JPJessimae Peluso14:19

      Yeah. That's strange.

   3. JRJoe Rogan14:20

      So how it is ... It's very strange. But it's a, it's a characteristic of human beings that's probably got some sort of evolutionary benefit. Like, concentrate on what you're concentrating on. Don't see the big picture, because if you see the big picture, you're gonna go, "Why am I even bothering? I'm a finite life form on a planet with a dying star, flirt- floating through infinity, trying not to get eaten."

   4. JPJessimae Peluso14:39

      Yeah. You're absolutely right.

   5. JRJoe Rogan14:40

      Fought-

   6. JPJessimae Peluso14:40

      It's a survival mechanism. It-

   7. JRJoe Rogan14:42

      There's something about it, like, your brain has too much ability to comprehend. And if you comprehend everything, the, like, the ju- just the nature of life itself, the fact that your, your body is this ecosystem with all this different stuff inside you, but because you collectively, like, however they influence you, however your microbiome influences you, collectively are you, and you know that. You just assume that there's one. But meanwhile, it's this crazy fucking world-

   8. JPJessimae Peluso15:12

      It is. It's all interconnected.

   9. JRJoe Rogan15:12

      ... in your body, on your body. It's all interconnected.

   10. JPJessimae Peluso15:15

       Do you ever talk to your cells?

   11. JRJoe Rogan15:17

       No. Do you?

   12. JPJessimae Peluso15:18

       (laughs) That's so weird. (laughs)

   13. JRJoe Rogan15:19

       Do you talk to your cells?

   14. JPJessimae Peluso15:20

       I do. I t- I, I say that, like, in a sense of, I thank, I thank my existence and my being for, for taking care of me.

   15. JRJoe Rogan15:29

       Dude.

   16. JPJessimae Peluso15:29

       Like, I express gratitude to myself on a, on a microscopic level, on a, on a molecular level.

   17. JRJoe Rogan15:35

       Like talking to plants and making them grow.

   18. JPJessimae Peluso15:37

       I talk to my plants. Yeah.

   19. JRJoe Rogan15:39

       They say that that's real, right? Like, if you play plants music, they actually grow better.

   20. JPJessimae Peluso15:43

       Yeah. I wonder if there's plants that like Cardi B.

   21. JRJoe Rogan15:45

       Am I just making up-

   22. JPJessimae Peluso15:46

       Or if it's all just, like ...

   23. NANarrator15:47

       No, no, no. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

   24. JRJoe Rogan15:48

       That's ... Is that real?

   25. JPJessimae Peluso15:48

       No, it's real. Yeah.

   26. NANarrator15:49

       (laughs)

   27. JRJoe Rogan15:49

       But there, was there a study on that?

   28. JPJessimae Peluso15:50

       Absolutely.

   29. NANarrator15:51

       There was. I did it. Yup, yup, yup.

   30. JRJoe Rogan15:51

       But though that-
8. 17:15 – 20:33

   Performing skills on screen: musicianship, acting authenticity, and ‘looks fake’ tells

   1. JRJoe Rogan17:15

      ... with these beats. See, the thing to, like, really complex classical music is, like, look, I, I don't know about you, but I don't play shit. I have zero musical talent at all.

   2. JPJessimae Peluso17:23

      I do ... I have no- none.

   3. JRJoe Rogan17:25

      So-

   4. JPJessimae Peluso17:25

      I mean, I can do, like, a, a f- a finger flute.

   5. JRJoe Rogan17:27

      I love the fact that I don't know anything about how they do it. So I could just enjoy it, like, just enjoy the music without thinking about the technical details of it.

   6. JPJessimae Peluso17:35

      Yeah. It must be a little stressful if you know how it goes-

   7. JRJoe Rogan17:38

      Right, right, right. Yeah.

   8. JPJessimae Peluso17:38

      ... to obsess over that, over the notes.

   9. JRJoe Rogan17:40

      Oh, yeah. It'd be like us with j- comics.

   10. JPJessimae Peluso17:42

       (laughs) You're like, "Why the fuck did he do that?"

   11. JRJoe Rogan17:44

       "Wh- " yeah, yeah. Right?

   12. JPJessimae Peluso17:44

       "Why would he go that way? Why wouldn't he go this way?"

   13. JRJoe Rogan17:46

       Or, you know what it'd be like? It would be like us if you're watching someone play a comic in a movie.

   14. JPJessimae Peluso17:51

       Ugh.

   15. JRJoe Rogan17:51

       Right?

   16. JPJessimae Peluso17:52

       Yeah. You're like, "You did it all wrong."

   17. JRJoe Rogan17:53

       Right. Yeah. You'd be like-

   18. JPJessimae Peluso17:54

       "Tha- that was so terrible."

   19. JRJoe Rogan17:56

       So if you were a guitarist, and then they're doing a movie on Hendrix, like, what are you gonna do with the fingers? What do you do?

   20. JPJessimae Peluso18:04

       Uh.

   21. JRJoe Rogan18:04

       'Cause you're not gonna trick people.

   22. JPJessimae Peluso18:05

       Flap 'em around aimlessly.

   23. JRJoe Rogan18:06

       But you, yeah. You're not gonna ... You have to actually know how to play guitar-

   24. JPJessimae Peluso18:09

       (laughs)

   25. JRJoe Rogan18:09

       ... if you wanna play Hendrix in a movie. Am I right?

   26. JPJessimae Peluso18:11

       I'm just laughing 'cause, like-

   27. NANarrator18:12

       Yes and no. There's, yo- you're right, but also, so many people have such different technique that you'd look at somebody and be like, "That's not, that's not how you play that." But you hear it and it sounds exactly right.

   28. JRJoe Rogan18:20

       Let me, let me give props to someone-

   29. JPJessimae Peluso18:21

       Yeah, because of the way they develop their dexterity.

   30. JRJoe Rogan18:23

       ... who faked it better than almost anybody. Will Smith when he played Muhammad Ali.... I wanna, I wanna say faked it.
9. 20:33 – 25:04

   Audiobooks, ‘chimp brain’ info hoarding, and jiu-jitsu as real drama and stress relief

   1. JPJessimae Peluso20:33

      You read a lot. Do you ... When did you-

   2. JRJoe Rogan20:35

      I don't read much-

   3. JPJessimae Peluso20:36

      ... have time before?

   4. JRJoe Rogan20:37

      ... anymore. Mostly what I do is listen to books on tape.

   5. JPJessimae Peluso20:39

      Mm. Is that considered reading? I mean, you must-

   6. JRJoe Rogan20:41

      It's a good question. Donna Rawlings says no. (laughs)

   7. JPJessimae Peluso20:44

      (laughs) Don Ellsley-

   8. JRJoe Rogan20:45

      Don Ellsley's like, "Wait!"

   9. JPJessimae Peluso20:46

      ... no, he's such a hater. (laughs)

   10. JRJoe Rogan20:46

       "You listen, you listen and you say you read?" (laughs)

   11. JPJessimae Peluso20:50

       (laughs)

   12. JRJoe Rogan20:50

       And Ari Shaffir said the same thing too.

   13. JPJessimae Peluso20:52

       (laughs)

   14. JRJoe Rogan20:52

       Ari Shaffir wrote on my Instagram, uh, something, some fucking comment.

   15. NANarrator20:57

       He said that books don't have tracks or something like that.

   16. JRJoe Rogan20:58

       Yeah, yeah, yeah.

   17. NANarrator20:59

       Come on, bitch.

   18. JPJessimae Peluso20:59

       That's funny. But I mean, if you're in school and you're-

   19. JRJoe Rogan21:01

       We were all-

   20. JPJessimae Peluso21:01

       ... getting a lecture, you're learning.

   21. JRJoe Rogan21:03

       Yeah, yeah, yeah. Listen, it's not, it's not the same, but I can do it when I work out. So I can listen to books while I work out.

   22. JPJessimae Peluso21:09

       Do you think you retain information better when you're, like, working out and doing physical exerting things, physically exerting things?

   23. JRJoe Rogan21:15

       No, I think you retain the most information when you're sitting there concentrating on retaining information.

   24. JPJessimae Peluso21:19

       (laughs) Right.

   25. JRJoe Rogan21:19

       You retain less, but you, um, you can still do it.

   26. JPJessimae Peluso21:23

       You seem really able to acquire and retain a lot of information.

   27. JRJoe Rogan21:28

       It's scattered though. It's like I have, um ... All my hard drives are fucked up.

   28. JPJessimae Peluso21:33

       (laughs)

   29. JRJoe Rogan21:34

       Dude, I'm like-

   30. JPJessimae Peluso21:34

       Are you running on an old Dell processor?
10. 25:04 – 30:50

    Work culture stress, suicide nets, and consumerism: what COVID reveals about modern life

    1. JRJoe Rogan25:04

       Here's why it's a weird choice. It, it is a choice, but, you know, it's not normal or healthy to sit in a chair all day.

    2. JPJessimae Peluso25:11

       No, it's not.

    3. JRJoe Rogan25:11

       And everybody is being forced to do that. And it's a w- it is a weird thing to decide that we gotta do.

    4. JPJessimae Peluso25:16

       I mean, that's why there's so many suicides in, in Chinese culture. Isn't that... Like, in Japanese cultures too?

    5. JRJoe Rogan25:22

       Well, they just... It's crazy hours too, right?

    6. JPJessimae Peluso25:23

       Because... Yeah, but they're sitting in a, in a desk all day long-

    7. JRJoe Rogan25:25

       Yeah.

    8. JPJessimae Peluso25:25

       ... jumping out of their windows because of the stress of the work week.

    9. JRJoe Rogan25:28

       Just ah! Imagine the feeling when you make that jump.

    10. JPJessimae Peluso25:33

        You probably regret it.

    11. JRJoe Rogan25:34

        You are like, "Fuck this job." Yah!

    12. JPJessimae Peluso25:37

        (laughs)

    13. JRJoe Rogan25:37

        Like, that is-

    14. JPJessimae Peluso25:37

        There's no way you're, each time, you're like-

    15. JRJoe Rogan25:39

        Whoo!

    16. JPJessimae Peluso25:39

        ... "This was a good choice."

    17. JRJoe Rogan25:40

        (laughs) Each time? (laughs)

    18. JPJessimae Peluso25:41

        (laughs) Milk was a bad choice-

    19. JRJoe Rogan25:43

        Whoo!

    20. JPJessimae Peluso25:43

        ... and so was jumping out of the window.

    21. JRJoe Rogan25:46

        (sighs) Boy, that's a crazy way to go.

    22. JPJessimae Peluso25:48

        It is. What-

    23. JRJoe Rogan25:48

        But how crazy is that Foxconn place where they make the iPhones? They had to put nets around it 'cause so many people were jumping. (laughs)

    24. JPJessimae Peluso25:53

        I mean, at least they're evolving, you know? Would be fun if they put a trampoline, then you can just kinda jump around-

    25. JRJoe Rogan25:58

        (laughs)

    26. JPJessimae Peluso25:58

        ... and deal with your emotions and that. You're like, "Oh, I guess, uh, it was a good thing-"

    27. JRJoe Rogan26:01

        Oh.

    28. JPJessimae Peluso26:01

        "... that I didn't do it, that I didn't die." What-

    29. JRJoe Rogan26:04

        They have dorms there and everything. Like, why can't we make an American cellphone? Is that impossible? Or would we-

    30. JPJessimae Peluso26:09

        No, it's not.
11. 30:50 – 1:05:45

    Deepfakes, misinformation, and the Shia LaBeouf flag hunt: internet culture and censorship debate

    1. JPJessimae Peluso30:50

       How do we know... These photos, so many photos are doctored-

    2. JRJoe Rogan30:53

       Yeah.

    3. JPJessimae Peluso30:53

       ... like you talked about the, the picture from the w- the beach. How do we even know what date that's from? I'm sure a lot of these things you can sort of track, but... Then they posted a picture about, you know, the stay, the anti-stay-at-home protestors. It was a photo from, like, an election from 2011, one thing I saw.

    4. JRJoe Rogan31:08

       I think that's just lazy journalism. They're just clickbait people, but-

    5. JPJessimae Peluso31:11

       That's interesting. That is.

    6. JRJoe Rogan31:12

       ... did you see the deepfake of Biden's tongue?

    7. JPJessimae Peluso31:15

       (laughs)

    8. JRJoe Rogan31:15

       Did you see that?

    9. JPJessimae Peluso31:17

       No.

    10. JRJoe Rogan31:18

        There's, there's a crazy-

    11. JPJessimae Peluso31:18

        That sounds like a porno category.

    12. JRJoe Rogan31:19

        There's a crazy deepfake-

    13. JPJessimae Peluso31:21

        (laughs)

    14. JRJoe Rogan31:21

        ... where they took Biden, his, his thing where he's doing this press conference, and they made him move his eyebrows and stick his tongue out in this really wacky way. And when I saw it, I was like, "Is he really doing that?" And I'm like, "I don't know if this is real or not." So I think I retweeted it. I'm like, "What is this?"

    15. JPJessimae Peluso31:37

        (laughs)

    16. JRJoe Rogan31:37

        You know, I just like, just sent it out there to the universe.

    17. JPJessimae Peluso31:40

        What, somebody tell me what this is.

    18. JRJoe Rogan31:41

        Yeah. And then, um, someone wrote a thing about is, you know, this deepfake. What, what did it say, was the article? Like, the beginning to the end of democracy or something like that. But it's, uh, it's really wi- Have, do you want me to send it to you?

    19. NANarrator31:54

        No, no. I, I f- sorry, I've ... Jesus. I found it. I'm looking at ... I guess calling it a deepfake might be mis-

    20. JRJoe Rogan32:02

        It's not a deepfake?

    21. NANarrator32:02

        ... mis- not misleading, but yeah, it's not technically a deepfake. But it's not accurate either. It's a, it's like manipulation.

    22. JPJessimae Peluso32:09

        But it didn't really happen?

    23. JRJoe Rogan32:10

        But, but he, but he didn't really open his tongue like that, right? He didn't-

    24. NANarrator32:12

        Yeah, I think that what it, what this is saying-

    25. JRJoe Rogan32:14

        (laughs)

    26. NANarrator32:14

        ... is that he opened his tongue like that, but there's some app you can use to do the rest of the manipulation

    27. JPJessimae Peluso32:18

        (laughs)

    28. JRJoe Rogan32:18

        He opened his tongue like a normal open?

    29. JPJessimae Peluso32:22

        (laughs) What is that?

    30. JRJoe Rogan32:22

        That's what I'm s- Can you show, can you show Jesse May?

Episode duration: 3:25:46