Joe Rogan Experience #1473 - Tom Papa

1. 0:00 – 1:41

   LA stay-at-home timeline and the economic fallout

   1. JRJoe Rogan0:00

      (sighs) Okay.

   2. TPTom Papa0:02

      Mm-hmm.

   3. JRJoe Rogan0:02

      So, what were you just saying, Jamie?

   4. TPTom Papa0:04

      (sighs) We have LA's stay-at-home order will likely remain in place for the next three months unless there is a, quote, "dramatic change to the virus and tools at hand," officials say.

   5. JRJoe Rogan0:16

      How are people supposed to feed themselves? Like, r- really, realistically, how do they expect this to work?

   6. TPTom Papa0:24

      You go out to work, and then you skitter back home.

   7. JRJoe Rogan0:27

      That's not what they're saying. That's not what stay at home means. Stay at home means you don't go to work.

   8. TPTom Papa0:33

      Yeah. But at the same time, they're opening up businesses, right?

   9. JRJoe Rogan0:36

      They're opening up very few businesses, and you have to get curbside for retail.

   10. TPTom Papa0:40

       I heard our governor in the state of California say that 70% of businesses are open now.

   11. JRJoe Rogan0:49

       Well, if that's the case, even if that was the case, let's say 30% of people are out of work.

   12. TPTom Papa0:53

       Yes.

   13. JRJoe Rogan0:54

       That's catastrophic.

   14. TPTom Papa0:55

       Yeah., It's a lot.

   15. JRJoe Rogan0:56

       And I don't think it's true. I don't- I don't think 70% of the places are open.

   16. TPTom Papa1:00

       That's what he said, 70% of the businesses.

   17. JRJoe Rogan1:01

       Well, even if they're open, they're not open at 100% capacity.

   18. TPTom Papa1:05

       Or they're probably working from home, like offices, he's probably counting offices.

   19. JRJoe Rogan1:09

       Hmm.

   20. TPTom Papa1:09

       And those people are still working and getting paid, but they're doing it from home.

   21. JRJoe Rogan1:13

       So, this is just LA?

   22. TPTom Papa1:15

       LA County. Just LA, yeah, yeah.

   23. JRJoe Rogan1:16

       So, that means, uh, like, Comedy Store has no chance?

   24. TPTom Papa1:20

       (clicks tongue) Yeah, I believe it's for the county, yeah, so till July.

   25. JRJoe Rogan1:24

       This is the same fuck-up who thought it would be a good idea to have people rat on people for money.

   26. TPTom Papa1:29

       Technically, this was not coming from the mayor. This is coming from a health... someone in the Health Department talking at a supervisor meeting or something.

   27. JRJoe Rogan1:36

       (sighs)

   28. TPTom Papa1:36

       So, it was a suggestion, it wasn't a...

   29. JRJoe Rogan1:38

       This is not-

   30. TPTom Papa1:39

       Not an official order, but it's how it was coming, yeah.
2. 1:41 – 3:48

   Density, outbreaks, and why COVID patterns seem inconsistent

   1. TPTom Papa1:41

      So, it's not an official order? Not an official order, but LA is the densest county in America. How about that?

   2. JRJoe Rogan1:50

      Is it really?

   3. TPTom Papa1:51

      Yeah.

   4. JRJoe Rogan1:51

      More than New York?

   5. TPTom Papa1:52

      Yeah. A- a- as a county.

   6. JRJoe Rogan1:56

      Hmm. That seems odd, doesn't it?

   7. TPTom Papa1:58

      It does seem odd. It seems like a lot of people.

   8. JRJoe Rogan2:01

      Seems like New York City is... New York City is denser.

   9. TPTom Papa2:03

      Yeah.

   10. JRJoe Rogan2:04

       It's just... New York City is... The- the- the thing about New York City that makes it great is that everybody sort of mingles together.

   11. TPTom Papa2:10

       Mm-hmm.

   12. JRJoe Rogan2:10

       Everybody gets on the subway together, everybody walks together on the streets.

   13. TPTom Papa2:13

       Yeah.

   14. JRJoe Rogan2:14

       It's also the reason why everybody is getting sick together.

   15. TPTom Papa2:17

       Yeah. But I saw an interesting thing, that the highest... This guy wrote an editorial about, uh, the reasons for New York, and he lives in New York, and he says Staten Island had the highest number. This was written before... I think Brooklyn has now edged it, but at the time, uh, that Staten Island was the highest and it was the least densely populated. And Manhattan, which is the most densely populated, had the fewer number of cases.

   16. JRJoe Rogan2:42

       Really?

   17. TPTom Papa2:43

       Mm-hmm.

   18. JRJoe Rogan2:44

       Well, I wonder if that is similar to, you know, what, what they're finding with people that work together-

   19. TPTom Papa2:50

       Right.

   20. JRJoe Rogan2:51

       ... or in prisons, in particularly.

   21. TPTom Papa2:52

       Mm-hmm.

   22. JRJoe Rogan2:52

       Right? They're finding that... There was this one prison they did a study on, 98% of the people were asymptomatic.

   23. TPTom Papa2:58

       Really?

   24. JRJoe Rogan2:58

       Yeah.

   25. TPTom Papa2:59

       98%?

   26. JRJoe Rogan3:00

       Yeah, 98%.

   27. TPTom Papa3:01

       Geez.

   28. JRJoe Rogan3:02

       It's nuts. Yeah.

   29. TPTom Papa3:04

       That's wei- yeah, it's weird.

   30. JRJoe Rogan3:05

       So, I was bringing it up with a friend of mine, and I was like, um, what... "Do you think this is because..." My friend, Kyle Kulinski, and he was like, "I think it's because their immune systems are strong 'cause they're just interacting with each other constantly."
3. 3:48 – 5:47

   Immune system “atrophy” vs isolation—and misinformation online

   1. JRJoe Rogan3:48

      And now, our immune systems are p- I would imagine, and this is just pure speculation.

   2. TPTom Papa3:53

      Mm-hmm (laughs) . Yeah.

   3. JRJoe Rogan3:53

      But I would imagine that your immune system is like all the other systems of your body, that when it gets tested, it gets stronger, right?

   4. TPTom Papa4:00

      Yeah. Yeah, for sure.

   5. JRJoe Rogan4:02

      So, your immune system right now is being put into a state of atrophy.

   6. TPTom Papa4:06

      Mm-hmm.

   7. JRJoe Rogan4:06

      Because it's not being exposed to anything new.

   8. TPTom Papa4:08

      It's- it's a, it's in a lounge chair (laughs) .

   9. JRJoe Rogan4:11

      It's just chilling.

   10. TPTom Papa4:12

       It's got sunglasses on.

   11. JRJoe Rogan4:13

       It's in a BarcaLounger. (laughs)

   12. TPTom Papa4:14

       (laughs) Hasn't worked in years. (laughs)

   13. JRJoe Rogan4:17

       (laughs) It's got soft legs that cramp up when it goes upstairs.

   14. TPTom Papa4:23

       (laughs) And all of a sudden, it gets called to go to work-

   15. JRJoe Rogan4:24

       Right.

   16. TPTom Papa4:25

       ... and it's just like, "Dude, what?"

   17. JRJoe Rogan4:27

       Wouldn't you imagine that that's the case?

   18. TPTom Papa4:29

       "Now?" It seems like it, and yeah.

   19. JRJoe Rogan4:31

       I would kinda... Yeah, I would kind of imagine-

   20. TPTom Papa4:32

       It seems like it.

   21. JRJoe Rogan4:33

       ... we're setting ourselves up to get really sick if something comes down the pipe.

   22. TPTom Papa4:37

       Yeah, yeah. Well, that was what was very strange in the beginning of all this, when people were saying that you, you know, that people just spout out, "You can't do anything for your immune system. You can't make it stronger. You can't do-"

   23. JRJoe Rogan4:47

       That's nonsense.

   24. TPTom Papa4:48

       And it was like, "Really?"

   25. JRJoe Rogan4:49

       Who is saying that?

   26. TPTom Papa4:50

       Just online. I- I- I did a thing with, uh...

   27. JRJoe Rogan4:53

       (laughs)

   28. TPTom Papa4:53

       Really (laughs) , just like-

   29. JRJoe Rogan4:54

       Online.

   30. TPTom Papa4:54

       ... just people spouting off (laughs) , yeah.
4. 5:47 – 7:22

   Beach reopening rules and the absurdity of permitted vs prohibited activities

   1. JRJoe Rogan5:47

      I- I think so, too. LA County beaches, uh, beaches reopen May 13th.

   2. TPTom Papa5:53

      Yes. But you can't hang out on your lounge, you can't hang out on your towel.

   3. JRJoe Rogan5:56

      No.

   4. TPTom Papa5:56

      You gotta go in-

   5. JRJoe Rogan5:57

      Ple- Go, make that larger please, go back to where it was.

   6. TPTom Papa5:59

      You can do water sports.

   7. JRJoe Rogan6:01

      No lying or sitting on the sand.

   8. TPTom Papa6:03

      Right.

   9. JRJoe Rogan6:04

      Canopies, coolers or picnicking.

   10. TPTom Papa6:05

       Right.... you can a- you can be active. You can go swim-

   11. JRJoe Rogan6:08

       Parking lots are closed. So where do they expect you to park?

   12. TPTom Papa6:11

       (laughs) They don't want you to go.

   13. JRJoe Rogan6:13

       "Individual family activities and exercise only." Hmm.

   14. TPTom Papa6:17

       Yeah, so you can go down, you can swim, you could ride the waves, and then get out of the ocean and get back in your car- (laughs)

   15. JRJoe Rogan6:23

       Look at this. No-

   16. TPTom Papa6:23

       ... and get home. (laughs)

   17. JRJoe Rogan6:24

       No picnicking. You can't picnic.

   18. JVJamie Vernon6:25

       No biking.

   19. TPTom Papa6:26

       No biking.

   20. JRJoe Rogan6:27

       No, why can't you bike?

   21. TPTom Papa6:29

       I have to say-

   22. JRJoe Rogan6:30

       No volleyball?

   23. TPTom Papa6:31

       ... that, you see that round circle with the slash through it with the giant canopies?

   24. JRJoe Rogan6:35

       Mm-hmm.

   25. TPTom Papa6:35

       Those should be banned all year.

   26. JRJoe Rogan6:37

       Oh.

   27. TPTom Papa6:37

       Have you ever been next to one of those (laughs) on the beach?

   28. JRJoe Rogan6:39

       Oh, those are disgusting.

   29. TPTom Papa6:40

       Oh my God.

   30. JRJoe Rogan6:41

       Why- why- why are you allowed to set up camp?
5. 7:22 – 11:17

   Targeted protection, ventilators, herd immunity, and risk tradeoffs

   1. JRJoe Rogan7:22

      Well, that's good. That's a, that's a start. I, I think we need to move in the other direction. I think we need to quarantine people that are at risk. That's what I think, really.

   2. TPTom Papa7:31

      Yes.

   3. JRJoe Rogan7:31

      And then let people make their own choices.

   4. JVJamie Vernon7:33

      Mm-hmm.

   5. JRJoe Rogan7:34

      You know, this, the, the, the idea that these hospitals are gonna be overwhelmed is not true.

   6. TPTom Papa7:39

      Mm-hmm.

   7. JRJoe Rogan7:39

      It's, it's not correct, luckily. We're very fortunate.

   8. TPTom Papa7:42

      Yeah.

   9. JRJoe Rogan7:43

      And the idea that we're gonna run out of ventilators, that's not true either.

   10. TPTom Papa7:45

       Right.

   11. JRJoe Rogan7:46

       So and then also, if that doctor that worked with Michael Yeo, I was telling you this before we started-

   12. TPTom Papa7:51

       Mm-hmm.

   13. JRJoe Rogan7:51

       ... the doctor said that if you put him on a ventilator, he would die, um, 'cause his body would stop trying to breathe and it would just sort of give up. And this is what Michael Yeo's doctor-

   14. TPTom Papa8:02

       Yeah.

   15. JRJoe Rogan8:02

       ... told him and he, he survived. And then we're finding out that a lot of people they put on ventilators don't make it.

   16. TPTom Papa8:08

       Mm-hmm.

   17. JRJoe Rogan8:08

       And I wonder if what he's saying applies to those people.

   18. TPTom Papa8:12

       Right. He, was he a, his, his a special case of why they didn't want him on the ventilator?

   19. JRJoe Rogan8:16

       No, his doctor's just a wise guy. He's just smart-

   20. TPTom Papa8:19

       Right.

   21. JRJoe Rogan8:19

       ... and just figured it out.

   22. TPTom Papa8:20

       Wow.

   23. JRJoe Rogan8:21

       I mean, look-

   24. TPTom Papa8:22

       (sighs) I mean, it, it's a weird thing to think, you know, what, what if we hadn't done all of these measures, would the hospitals have ... I mean, 'cause the hospitals for a beat were crazy.

   25. JRJoe Rogan8:31

       Depends on where you are.

   26. TPTom Papa8:32

       Yeah, like, if you were in Queens-

   27. JRJoe Rogan8:33

       Yeah.

   28. TPTom Papa8:34

       ... it was-

   29. JRJoe Rogan8:34

       Yeah.

   30. TPTom Papa8:34

       ... insane.
6. 11:17 – 17:42

   Civil liberties, state-by-state experiments, and the ‘stupid lists’ problem

   1. JRJoe Rogan11:17

      Yeah. It just seems, you know, Elon just opened up his factory in California-

   2. TPTom Papa11:21

      Mm-hmm.

   3. JRJoe Rogan11:21

      ... the Tesla factory, and said, "Come d- come arrest me."

   4. TPTom Papa11:24

      Right.

   5. JRJoe Rogan11:25

      Basically saying, "What you're doing is a violation of civil liberties."

   6. TPTom Papa11:29

      Mm-hmm.

   7. JRJoe Rogan11:29

      "You're, you're telling people that they're not allowed to go to work and that this is, uh, we-"

   8. TPTom Papa11:34

      Yeah.

   9. JRJoe Rogan11:34

      "... we've just become a fascist state."

   10. TPTom Papa11:36

       Mm-hmm.

   11. JRJoe Rogan11:36

       See how that goes.

   12. TPTom Papa11:38

       (inhales) Yeah, I kind of feel like they, they're seeing, like, they know that they'll save lives this way. But they, I mean, look, if you're the, if you're the governor, right?

   13. JRJoe Rogan11:46

       What do you do?

   14. TPTom Papa11:47

       What do you do? I mean-

   15. JRJoe Rogan11:49

       Right.

   16. TPTom Papa11:49

       ... you wanna, you want people to be safe, but you also are looking at the books every day and realizing (laughs) that your state is in need of a trillion dollars to survive. Like, it would be-

   17. JRJoe Rogan11:59

       If, if, if ... I mean, if that's it. It might be a lot more than that.

   18. TPTom Papa12:03

       Yeah. Like, you know-

   19. JRJoe Rogan12:04

       That's just based on what we know is active and the businesses that are open right now.

   20. TPTom Papa12:09

       Right.

   21. JRJoe Rogan12:10

       I mean, how many people, like, a friend of mine was saying, "How many people are unemployed right now and they don't even know it?"

   22. TPTom Papa12:14

       Yeah.

   23. JRJoe Rogan12:14

       Their business is just never gonna make it.

   24. TPTom Papa12:16

       Right.

   25. JRJoe Rogan12:16

       And then also, there's gonna be less people with money, so there's gonna be less spending, so these economies-

   26. TPTom Papa12:20

       Yeah.

   27. JRJoe Rogan12:20

       ... are gonna need some sort of a resurgence.

   28. TPTom Papa12:22

       So if you're the governor, you're not-... out there just to control people and take away their civil liberties because you're screwing (laughs) yourself on the other end, you know, with people being broke and the economy falling apart, so you're in this-

   29. JRJoe Rogan12:33

       Mm-hmm.

   30. TPTom Papa12:34

       ... in this spot. I do not envy it.
7. 17:42 – 19:11

   Masks, mixed messaging, and practical risk reduction

   1. TPTom Papa17:42

      "No masks, now a mask, now not a mask." And-

   2. JRJoe Rogan17:44

      Right.

   3. TPTom Papa17:45

      You know what I mean? Like-

   4. JRJoe Rogan17:45

      Well, even Fauci. I posted something on, from 60 Minutes-

   5. TPTom Papa17:49

      I did.

   6. JRJoe Rogan17:49

      ... yesterday.

   7. TPTom Papa17:49

      I read that. I saw that.

   8. JRJoe Rogan17:50

      That, that Fauci was saying you don't need to wear a mask. This was like-

   9. TPTom Papa17:53

      That was early, right?

   10. JRJoe Rogan17:54

       ... two months ago.

   11. TPTom Papa17:54

       That was early.

   12. JRJoe Rogan17:54

       Fucking March-

   13. TPTom Papa17:55

       Yeah.

   14. JRJoe Rogan17:55

       ... is not that early, man.

   15. TPTom Papa17:57

       I know, but that's when they were saying no mask because they didn't have masks. (laughs)

   16. JRJoe Rogan18:00

       Is that why?

   17. TPTom Papa18:01

       I think so. (laughs)

   18. JRJoe Rogan18:02

       Well, maybe. But he was saying you don't ... He says specifically you don't need a mask.

   19. TPTom Papa18:07

       Yeah.

   20. JRJoe Rogan18:07

       But-... look, there's people out there wearing masks-

   21. TPTom Papa18:09

       It's confusing.

   22. JRJoe Rogan18:09

       ... while they're driving in their cars. That's why I put it up, you fuck.

   23. TPTom Papa18:11

       (laughs) Right.

   24. JRJoe Rogan18:12

       'Cause I see these fucking dorks. Like-

   25. TPTom Papa18:14

       I know.

   26. JRJoe Rogan18:14

       ... come on, man. Who's in your car blowing germs in your face?

   27. TPTom Papa18:16

       I know, by yourself.

   28. JRJoe Rogan18:18

       And by the way, those things are not gonna keep the, the air from coming in your mouth.

   29. TPTom Papa18:21

       No.

   30. JRJoe Rogan18:21

       And it's in the air. If it's in the air, it's gonna get in your mouth. It's gonna keep you from spitting it out-
8. 19:11 – 23:46

   Supplements, CBD tangent, and who COVID hits hardest

   1. JRJoe Rogan19:11

      I think we need to concentrate on people getting their immune system stronger. And, and I think-

   2. TPTom Papa19:16

      Yeah.

   3. JRJoe Rogan19:16

      ... if the government has the time to put up these fucking stupid lists of not, "Don't use a chair."

   4. TPTom Papa19:21

      Make it a sign.

   5. JRJoe Rogan19:21

      Put up a list of how important it is to take vitamin C. Supplement your diet with vitamin C.

   6. TPTom Papa19:26

      Yeah.

   7. JRJoe Rogan19:26

      Supplement your diet with vitamin D.

   8. TPTom Papa19:28

      Yeah.

   9. JRJoe Rogan19:28

      You know, t- take-

   10. TPTom Papa19:29

       Elderberry.

   11. JRJoe Rogan19:30

       ... yeah, take zinc. Take all sorts of things that are, that have proven to be very good for your immune system.

   12. TPTom Papa19:35

       I know. Why wouldn't you do it?

   13. JRJoe Rogan19:36

       Ah.

   14. TPTom Papa19:36

       Why wouldn't you do it?

   15. JRJoe Rogan19:37

       Anger. Anger. Frustration. Instead, "You could just put it off til July."

   16. TPTom Papa19:43

       (laughs)

   17. JRJoe Rogan19:43

       "And then it's gonna magically be better." It's not gonna be better in July. It's still gonna exist.

   18. TPTom Papa19:49

       Yeah.

   19. JRJoe Rogan19:49

       The only thing that's gonna be different, it's gonna be hot as fuck out. Maybe that's better. Maybe the virus can't survive when it's hot as fuck as fuck out and when it, on touched things.

   20. TPTom Papa19:59

       It'll go down-

   21. JRJoe Rogan19:59

       You know?

   22. TPTom Papa19:59

       ... but then it's gonna get cold, and that's what happened in 1918, right, in 1919.

   23. JRJoe Rogan20:03

       Yes.

   24. TPTom Papa20:03

       It was the... It got, it came up... The fall spike was much worse than the spring spike.

   25. JRJoe Rogan20:09

       Is that what they said? Yeah.

   26. TPTom Papa20:10

       Yeah, it came back and the numbers were much higher.

   27. JRJoe Rogan20:12

       Well, this is what-

   28. TPTom Papa20:13

       And this is what, and this is what I keep trying to figure out. (can pops open) I'm reading all about the history of that and it was a two-year thing before it just, you know, went through the population and eventually died out.

   29. JRJoe Rogan20:22

       Mm-hmm.

   30. TPTom Papa20:23

       And I keep thinking, are we gonna be different? Are we more advanced? Are we going to be able to change that story in modern day?
9. 23:46 – 24:52

   Comedy’s return: clubs reopening, Texas vs California, and missing the stage

   1. TPTom Papa23:46

      I know. I got an offer to go do sh- shows in a club in a couple weeks.

   2. JRJoe Rogan23:51

      Addison Improv's opened back up.

   3. TPTom Papa23:52

      Mm-hmm.

   4. JRJoe Rogan23:53

      Apparently they're opening back up this weekend. Texas doesn't give a fuck.

   5. TPTom Papa23:57

      (laughs)

   6. JRJoe Rogan23:57

      I love it. (sighs)

   7. TPTom Papa23:58

      Would you perform?

   8. JRJoe Rogan23:59

      Yes.

   9. TPTom Papa23:59

      Would you go to a club?

   10. JRJoe Rogan24:00

       I would book it. Yeah.

   11. TPTom Papa24:01

       I wanna do it.

   12. JRJoe Rogan24:02

       Look, I don't know what I'm gonna do, man. I mean, if July is legit-

   13. TPTom Papa24:06

       Uh-huh.

   14. JRJoe Rogan24:06

       ... if that's really when we go back, that's too many months.

   15. TPTom Papa24:08

       It's a lot of months.

   16. JRJoe Rogan24:08

       Too many months to not do standup.

   17. TPTom Papa24:11

       (inhales deeply) I know. I start feeling a little weird.

   18. JRJoe Rogan24:13

       Well, also, your standup's gonna suck.

   19. TPTom Papa24:15

       Well...

   20. JRJoe Rogan24:15

       Okay? We were talking about how your cardiovascular system goes down.

   21. TPTom Papa24:19

       Yeah.

   22. JRJoe Rogan24:19

       How about your standup system?

   23. TPTom Papa24:20

       (laughs) I know. We'll get that back quick though.

   24. JRJoe Rogan24:23

       We will. Yeah.

   25. TPTom Papa24:23

       But, but man.

   26. JRJoe Rogan24:24

       If you get there on Wednesday, by Friday you'll have your system back.

   27. TPTom Papa24:26

       Yeah, you'll be good. You'll be good to go.

   28. JRJoe Rogan24:28

       Maybe.

   29. TPTom Papa24:28

       Yeah.

   30. JRJoe Rogan24:28

       Your voice will be sore.
10. 24:52 – 31:41

    UFC in an empty arena and what ‘reopening’ feels like in real life

    1. TPTom Papa24:52

       How was the thing on the weekend? Your thing.

    2. JRJoe Rogan24:55

       Oh, the UFC?

    3. TPTom Papa24:56

       Yeah.

    4. JRJoe Rogan24:56

       It was interesting.

    5. TPTom Papa24:57

       Yeah?

    6. JRJoe Rogan24:57

       Very weird.

    7. TPTom Papa24:58

       Was it weird?

    8. JRJoe Rogan24:59

       Very weird. Huge arena, no one in it.

    9. TPTom Papa25:00

       No one in it?

    10. JRJoe Rogan25:01

        No one in it. 15,000-seat arena, maybe 10 people in the audience.

    11. TPTom Papa25:05

        Wow.

    12. JRJoe Rogan25:06

        Yeah, and it was all people that work for the UFC.

    13. TPTom Papa25:08

        Wow.

    14. JRJoe Rogan25:08

        Yeah, like the... us, the three commentators, sound people, few other folks.

    15. TPTom Papa25:13

        Like rehearsal?

    16. JRJoe Rogan25:14

        Judges. I guess more than 10 people because there was the judges and then the doctors and state officials-

    17. TPTom Papa25:19

        Mm-hmm.

    18. JRJoe Rogan25:20

        ... the, you know, medical officials and the, you know-

    19. TPTom Papa25:21

        Right.

    20. JRJoe Rogan25:22

        ... Athletic Commission people.

    21. TPTom Papa25:23

        Okay. A- s- and then they just come out-

    22. JRJoe Rogan25:26

        Yep, fight.

    23. TPTom Papa25:27

        ... and fight, and you just hear them breathing and stuff, 'cause it's-

    24. JRJoe Rogan25:28

        Oh, my God. It's... Well, first of all, the main event was spectacular.

    25. TPTom Papa25:32

        Oh, yeah.

    26. JRJoe Rogan25:32

        It was an incredible fight. And it was a fucking war.

    27. TPTom Papa25:36

        Right.

    28. JRJoe Rogan25:36

        But it was a war where y- unlike any other war. There's no crowd.

    29. TPTom Papa25:40

        Yeah.

    30. JRJoe Rogan25:40

        And you're hearing everything. You're hearing every smack of the flesh.
11. 31:41 – 50:30

    Extreme ‘sports’: Russian slap fighting, street-fight breakdowns, and insect battles

    1. JRJoe Rogan31:41

       Dude, I woke up this morning and I spent the first hour of my day watching Russian slap fighting videos.

    2. TPTom Papa31:47

       (laughs) Of course you did.

    3. JRJoe Rogan31:49

       (sighs)

    4. TPTom Papa31:49

       (laughs)

    5. JRJoe Rogan31:49

       It might be the dumbest thing that's going on today.

    6. TPTom Papa31:52

       Y- it's slap fighting?

    7. JRJoe Rogan31:53

       Yeah, they just stand in f... You know what it is?

    8. TPTom Papa31:55

       No.

    9. JRJoe Rogan31:56

       Oh, my God.

    10. TPTom Papa31:56

        Oh, is that when the two guys... It looks like they're gonna arm wrestle?

    11. JRJoe Rogan31:58

        They just stand in front of each other-

    12. TPTom Papa32:00

        (laughs)

    13. JRJoe Rogan32:00

        ... and they let each other slap each other in the face. And f- first of all, whoever goes first has such a monster advantage.

    14. TPTom Papa32:07

        (laughs) Yeah, of course.

    15. JRJoe Rogan32:08

        'Cause they ki-... They KO each other-

    16. TPTom Papa32:10

        Yeah.

    17. JRJoe Rogan32:10

        ... all the time. These are huge, these huge guys and they swing from the hip and the other guy doesn't even move.

    18. TPTom Papa32:15

        (laughs)

    19. JRJoe Rogan32:15

        And they open palm strike each other in the face. I spent an hour today.

    20. TPTom Papa32:20

        Is this- is this new? Or was this, like-

    21. JRJoe Rogan32:21

        I don't-

    22. TPTom Papa32:21

        ... an old Trd- Russian tradition?

    23. JRJoe Rogan32:23

        I don't know. I don't know how long it's been around for.

    24. TPTom Papa32:26

        (laughs)

    25. JRJoe Rogan32:27

        I re-... I think the first time-

    26. TPTom Papa32:28

        So funny.

    27. JRJoe Rogan32:28

        ... I watched it was, like, about a year or two ago-

    28. TPTom Papa32:30

        Yeah.

    29. JRJoe Rogan32:31

        ... maybe?

    30. TPTom Papa32:31

        Mm-hmm.
12. 50:30 – 1:06:26

    Tom Papa’s book launch, cruise-ship rants, bread fame, and pandemic creativity

    1. TPTom Papa50:30

       Hey, thanks for signing my book, Joe.

    2. JRJoe Rogan50:32

       I didn't sign your book, bitch.

    3. TPTom Papa50:32

       I didn't ... I mean, no, but you put a quote on the back.

    4. JRJoe Rogan50:34

       Oh, that's right, I did. And it comes out today, right?

    5. TPTom Papa50:36

       It comes out today.

    6. JRJoe Rogan50:38

       Uh, you, you just segued into book sales, did you?

    7. TPTom Papa50:40

       I did.

    8. JRJoe Rogan50:41

       (laughs)

    9. TPTom Papa50:42

       I did. It means a lot.

    10. JRJoe Rogan50:44

        What is it called?

    11. TPTom Papa50:44

        It means a lot that you did this.

    12. JRJoe Rogan50:45

        Oh, please, I love you. It says, "You're, you're doing great."

    13. TPTom Papa50:48

        Yep. You're Doing Great: Another Reasons to Stay Alive.

    14. JRJoe Rogan50:51

        But everybody's not doing great.

    15. TPTom Papa50:51

        Yeah, you are. It's just relative.

    16. JRJoe Rogan50:53

        Some people, some people aren't doing well.

    17. TPTom Papa50:54

        Well, not everybody.

    18. JRJoe Rogan50:55

        Look at it.

    19. TPTom Papa50:55

        And Other Reasons to Stay Alive. I had no idea how relevant it was gonna be when the ... when I wrote it.

    20. JRJoe Rogan51:00

        I'm in lofty company here, on the book. Patton Oswalt, Matt Damon, and Whitney Cummings. Ooh.

    21. TPTom Papa51:05

        Yeah.

    22. JRJoe Rogan51:06

        You have some powerful friends. Ooh.

    23. TPTom Papa51:08

        All good people.

    24. JRJoe Rogan51:09

        Dude, this is a real long book. How long did it take you to write this bitch?

    25. TPTom Papa51:11

        Uh, a year and a half.

    26. JRJoe Rogan51:13

        Really?

    27. TPTom Papa51:13

        Yeah, about that.

    28. JRJoe Rogan51:14

        How many pages?

    29. TPTom Papa51:15

        About 300.

    30. JRJoe Rogan51:16

        Wow.

Episode duration: 3:04:20