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Joe Rogan Experience #1475 - Bridget Phetasy

Bridget Phetasy is a writer and comedian. Check out her show on YouTube called “Dumpster Fire” — https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC5SQnm72FspDNUXK4cB2_xg & her podcast called “Walk-Ins Welcome” available on Apple Podcasts & Stitcher. @phetasy ​

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May 16, 20203h 17mWatch on YouTube ↗

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  1. 0:010:24

    Pandemic-era greetings: testing, masks, and the new social etiquette

    1. JR

      Bridget!

    2. BP

      Hey-o.

    3. JR

      You're here.

    4. BP

      Yeah.

    5. I came to make a citizen's arrest. (laughs)

    6. JR

      Oh, congrats. Ooh. It's touchy these days.

    7. BP

      We're m- less than six feet apart, I believe.

    8. JR

      I think we're okay.

    9. BP

      Mm-hmm.

    10. JR

      But did you see-

    11. BP

      Do we need to wear masks? (laughs)

    12. JR

      Um, no. We don't.

    13. BP

      Okay. (laughs)

    14. JR

      Well, you don't. You got tested and I've been tested too.

    15. BP

      I got one of the Joe Rogan tests.

    16. JR

      Yes. Yes.

    17. BP

      I feel special.

    18. JR

      Y- you are special.

    19. BP

      (laughs)

  2. 0:242:27

    LA’s “snitch line,” lockdown enforcement, and the missing health messaging

    1. JR

      Um, did you see that the, L.A. is ... They're, they have a number now where you can turn in businesses that, uh, aren't complying?

    2. BP

      Oh, yeah.

    3. JR

      Like, what, what is going on?

    4. BP

      Why?

    5. JR

      W- what is this?

    6. BP

      Who's doing that?

    7. JR

      But this is bad government. Listen, there's zero effort talking about, uh, giving people information on how to strengthen your immune system. Zero.

    8. BP

      Yeah.

    9. JR

      Zero effort. Zero effort telli- talking to people about lowering stress levels through meditation and exercise. Zero.

    10. BP

      Yeah.

    11. JR

      Zero. The importance of keeping your body healthy, zero. Zero talk about this.

    12. BP

      Yeah, the-

    13. JR

      Zero concentrating on the, the, the, the new data that's coming in about vitamins and all the, the different vitamin deficiencies.

    14. BP

      Vitamin D.

    15. JR

      Yes. Dr. Rhonda Patrick knocked it all outta the park on the podcast yesterday.

    16. BP

      Yeah.

    17. JR

      Fuck, man. It's crazy. These people are just like, "Stay home." Locked up. Locked up, stay inside.

    18. BP

      But aside from the government, snitches get stitches.

    19. JR

      Yes.

    20. BP

      This is basic childhood etiquette.

    21. JR

      Well, they were first giving snitches for people who were violating social distancing.

    22. BP

      (laughs)

    23. JR

      But now they're moving on to businesses that are non-compliant.

    24. BP

      But how are you supposed to make money? (laughs)

    25. JR

      How are you supposed to make money? I don't understand this. Like, what is the thought bi- ... Here's the crazy thing. Garcetti said, "We're gonna keep L.A. on at least partial lockdown until there's a cure."

    26. BP

      Okay.

    27. JR

      There's not gonna be a cure, you fucking dummy. It's a virus.

    28. BP

      And it's ... Isn't it a cold virus?

    29. JR

      Yes.

    30. BP

      Yeah.

  3. 2:274:22

    “Rogan’s cult” and the fantasy of starting over somewhere else

    1. BP

      I, I heard you're moving.

    2. JR

      She looks hard.

    3. BP

      That's been on the, on the wires. (laughs)

    4. JR

      Listen, we're, we're all talking about it. All of us talk about it. Everyone.

    5. BP

      Oh, all of ... Who?

    6. JR

      E- all my friends.

    7. BP

      Oh.

    8. JR

      Callan, Schaub, Joey Diaz. Everyone.

    9. BP

      You can just start like a-

    10. JR

      Everyone's talked about it. A cult.

    11. BP

      ... a Davidian ranch? (laughs)

    12. JR

      We're gonna call it a cult. We're just gonna be up, up and, uh, upfront about it.

    13. BP

      (laughs)

    14. JR

      All these people hide the fact they have a cult.

    15. BP

      10 years from-

    16. JR

      We're just gonna call it a cult.

    17. BP

      (laughs) 10 years from now it's just Waco and it's-

    18. JR

      Yeah. No name.

    19. BP

      ... Joe. (laughs)

    20. JR

      We're just gonna call it the cult. We'll just g- we'll have the band play, The Cult. "Sanctuary." (laughs) .

    21. BP

      (laughs)

    22. JR

      That's a great band.

    23. BP

      I would, I would join if you started-

    24. JR

      Underrated.

    25. BP

      Yeah. It is.

    26. JR

      Super underrated band.

    27. BP

      It is.

    28. JR

      The Cult?

    29. BP

      Oh, yeah.

    30. JR

      "Love Removal Machine." Holy fuck, that's a good jam to work out to.

  4. 4:228:25

    Joe’s upbringing, shifting political identity, and “cult thinking” on left and right

    1. JR

      Like, "This is a goddamn secret." Like, you guys have this really cool town. Boise's this really cool town. It's a little red. But hey, I get along with people that are red, by the way, more, a lot of times, than I get along with people that are, like, uh, ideologically left. Like, without thinking about it.

    2. BP

      Right.

    3. JR

      You know, you know what I'm saying? Like, there's, there's people that are left 'cause they're compassionate and, and-

    4. BP

      Right.

    5. JR

      ... and the, the ... You know, they, they want people to have freedom and the choice to do whatever they want to do with their body and, you know?

    6. BP

      Were you raised Democrat?

    7. JR

      No. Yeah. Yes. Democrat. Yes.

    8. BP

      Okay. 'Cause you're from-

    9. JR

      Well, I was raised, raised hippie.

    10. BP

      Okay.

    11. JR

      My parents were hip- ... My, my stepfather had long hair down to his ass. My parents went from New Jersey, like, really Italian neighborhood to San Francisco.

    12. BP

      Mm-hmm. Oh, okay.

    13. JR

      And then became a hippie. But my stepdad was a hippie when my mom, mom met him, and then we moved across the country when I was seven.

    14. BP

      Okay.

    15. JR

      It was ... We lived in San Francisco in, like, in the middle of, like, where Lombard Street is.

    16. BP

      So you were like-

    17. JR

      It was all just flower children and gay people-

    18. BP

      Yeah. (laughs)

    19. JR

      ... and fuck this war. Like, I was in San Francisco when the Vietnam War broke.

    20. BP

      Oh, okay.

    21. JR

      When I was a little kid. When it ended. When, when the war ended, rather. And I remember thinking, like, "Wow, they'll ... They're never gonna have war again. They figured it out."

    22. BP

      (laughs)

    23. JR

      "Thank God."

    24. BP

      And (laughs) that's been-

    25. JR

      I really thought that. I was like, because I was worried.

    26. BP

      I'm like, "Oh."

    27. JR

      'Cause, you know, there's people that were around me that were ... You know, if there was younger folks, they were worried about being drafted.

    28. BP

      Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm.

    29. JR

      You know?

    30. BP

      And so you were pretty indoctrinated with a- all of that?

  5. 8:2516:47

    Nihilism, information overload, and where (if anywhere) to get trustworthy news

    1. JR

      Have you ... But isn't it also because you've been locked up?

    2. BP

      No. No. That's normal for me. (laughs)

    3. JR

      No? (laughs) So what's making you feel more nihilistic?

    4. BP

      I've never felt less, um, optimistic about people's ability to govern themselves. So this American experiment is supposed to be one in which it's smaller government and we, we can ... You know, we're adults, we're grownups, and now I feel like everybody's ratting on everybody else. Everyone's looking to somebody to save them or tell them what to do. There's this lack ... And it comes to the culture is just so, um, l- lack of resilience, you know, just psychological resilience. And so, I don't know. I, I've been feeling you don't know who to believe. Where do you get, where do you get your news from? Where, where do you get your trusted news from?

    5. JR

      It's a good question. I don't.

    6. BP

      (laughs)

    7. JR

      I've been not getting news.

    8. BP

      (laughs)

    9. JR

      Like I, I just skim through things these days. It's like-

    10. BP

      Because-

    11. JR

      It's so frustrating. There's ... First of all, there's too many series to follow. There's the Obamagate series.

    12. BP

      That's f-

    13. JR

      You gotta follow that.

    14. BP

      ... nu- nutcase.

    15. JR

      Yeah. Nutcase. Nutcase. The, the, l- the se- sitting president, uh, e- exiting president literally hires or gets the FBI to investigate Trump. (laughs)

    16. BP

      I don't know anything about Obamagate, but I did see a take down of Obamagate that was pretty harsh where the guy was like, it basically relies on you having to believe a series of conspiracy theories in order for it to even hold up. And I am just gonna sit here right now before everyone's all like, "Da, da, da, da, da," I know nothing about Obamagate.

    17. JR

      Yeah. I don't-

    18. BP

      And I actually don't give a shit. (laughs)

    19. JR

      That might have been an older video. That might have been an older video.

    20. BP

      No, it's from last night.

    21. JR

      Mm. J- Listen to Jimmy Dore's video on it. Jimmy Dore's video is excellent.

    22. BP

      Okay.

    23. JR

      And he, he breaks down exactly what the administration did.

    24. BP

      Yeah.

    25. JR

      And that it's illegal. And that you're, you're, you're essentially using the FBI to spy on Trump. And then when it turned out that all that Russia stuff that they were claiming was going to happen didn't take place and that they knew it wasn't really happening to begin with, that what, what they're saying was all exaggerating and hyperbole and they were trying to turn it into something that it wasn't.

    26. BP

      I do- I don't know. I, I-

    27. JR

      Oh, okay. You don't know.

    28. BP

      ... I haven't been following it. I see it and I just-

    29. JR

      It's not good. It's all not good. It's not good 'cause it's-

    30. BP

      What's the other story that we need to follow? Other series?

  6. 16:4735:26

    COVID policy whiplash in LA: homelessness, business collapse, masks, and vitamin D

    1. BP

      The disease. Are we back to COVID?

    2. JR

      COVID.

    3. BP

      Okay. Fine.

    4. JR

      Yeah. I mean, that's what's wrong with everything right now.

    5. BP

      Right, I mean, it's all, anyone-

    6. JR

      I mean, until that gets solved, the politics is just amplified. What that is, is like gasoline to the fire of partisanship-

    7. BP

      Yeah.

    8. JR

      ... because everybody's in a panic and everyone's fearful and so many people are gonna be unemployed. And when people are unemployed, that's when Hitler kicked in, by the way.

    9. BP

      (laughs)

    10. JR

      Right? 'Cause people were acting... True, in Germany-

    11. BP

      No, I know, I know, but you're-

    12. JR

      ... because people would get scared.

    13. BP

      You're not making any arguments against that Trump is literally Hitler cr- crap (laughs) .

    14. JR

      I don't think he's Hitler.

    15. BP

      No, I know, I know.

    16. JR

      I don't think he's Hitler. I think he's Trump. I think he's always been the same guy. It's just that now they've expected so much more of him.

    17. BP

      No, I think people-

    18. JR

      They now expect him to be a statesman.

    19. BP

      Yeah. And I think people are desperate. And that's what scares me is that, you know, even in the city, there's just more crime in my neighborhood. There's more... Now everyone's wearing a fucking mask. (laughs)

    20. JR

      It's easy to do crime.

    21. BP

      Yeah.

    22. JR

      Yeah.

    23. BP

      That's what you do.

    24. JR

      I know.

    25. BP

      You're either a superhero or you commit crimes.

    26. JR

      I know.

    27. BP

      And I definitely see, um... It's weird, like, m- where I live in LA is a bit of a crossroads area, and it's a little bit... Like, crossroads of the big freeways and some of the big arteries of the road, the roads. And it's at night because everybody's in lockdown. It's all the, like, drifters and homeless people.

    28. JR

      Mm.

    29. BP

      And it feels fucking weird when you go out in LA at night. It's all ju-

    30. JR

      Mad Maxing?

  7. 35:2641:37

    The hidden costs: mental health, isolation, nursing homes, and leadership failures

    1. BP

      Yeah. Um, I, I am worried about ... I, I always, uh, check on the, the people. I'm like, "How's everyone doing?" 'Cause the other thing that bothers me and worries me is, um, mental health. Like, I have a lot of single female friends and-

    2. JR

      Mm-hmm.

    3. BP

      ... they haven't hugged anyone in, like, two months. You know?

    4. JR

      No.

    5. BP

      They're ... The ... Just the lack ... That ... This is what we do to people when we put them in prison and we put, we put people in isolation because it's really one of the worst things you can do to a human.

    6. JR

      Yes.

    7. BP

      And so all of these people in isolation who might already be wrestling with depression, anxiety, or whatever, you know, mental, uh, like, illness or problems they have now are alone and isolated. And I don't ... I'm worried. I'm worried about people.

    8. JR

      Yeah.Yeah, you're right. You should be.

    9. BP

      I mean-

    10. JR

      Yeah, it's not good... It's not good for single men, single women, single anybody.

    11. BP

      No, it's, um-

    12. JR

      Especially folks... I mean, have you ever been moved to a place where you didn't have any friends?

    13. BP

      Yeah, I moved every year and a half growing up. (laughs)

    14. JR

      Me too. I moved a lot growing up. Same thing.

    15. BP

      I'm very, very familiar with sitting a- I cannot watch people sit alone and eat, like, especially in a lunchroom, because it's trigger alert.

    16. JR

      Oh, wow.

    17. BP

      It's too much like, "Oh, I was the girl sitting alone for so long."

    18. JR

      I remember when I first moved to LA, um, in '94. I came out here to do a TV show and I didn't know anybody. So I basically went to the set, and then I went to the Comedy Store, and I went to the gym, and that's basically it. And I didn't have any friends for a long time. And I remember I was on the set and this girl gave me a hug. And I remember thinking, "God, that feels so good." Like, not- not just a hug-

    19. BP

      You weren't dating or anything?

    20. JR

      No, no, no. She just, like, "What's up?" Gave me a hug.

    21. BP

      No, no, no. I mean you were... In this time when you were, like, gym, on your little hamster wheel-

    22. JR

      No.

    23. BP

      ... you weren't-

    24. JR

      No, no. I wasn't dating anybody. No. I was, uh, just doing this stupid TV show.

    25. BP

      Just grinding.

    26. JR

      And, um, I had a girlfriend back in New York, but we were kind of on the outs. And then I was just sort of-

    27. BP

      Mm.

    28. JR

      ... settling in-

    29. BP

      That's good.

    30. JR

      ... to whether or not I was gonna stay out there.

  8. 41:3750:05

    Fear responses and culture wars: guns, California politics, Hollywood incentives, and self-censorship

    1. BP

      So how have you been handling it?

    2. JR

      Um, initially, I was scared. No bullshit. Like, we stocked up on food and I was worried about a bunch of things. First of all, I was worried about the guns. There's so many people that were buying guns. I was like, "Whoa, this ain't good." Like, people that don't know how to use a gun-

    3. BP

      (laughs)

    4. JR

      ... never shot a gun, they're all lining up to buy guns. And then there was... A lot of my friends were super liberal who never wanted guns, who were asking me how to get guns, how do you shoot a gun, where do you go to practice?

    5. BP

      That was hilarious watching liberals learn about their gun laws.

    6. JR

      (laughs)

    7. BP

      I'm like, "You guys..."... that my friends would be like, "Do you know you have to wait 10 days?" (laughs)

    8. JR

      Yeah.

    9. BP

      Like, yeah, no shit, idiot.

    10. JR

      Yeah.

    11. BP

      Like, what do you think you've been voting for here? (laughs)

    12. JR

      But that's a good thing, though. We should... You know, that's a good thing. The bad thing is you waited until a pandemic to get a gun.

    13. BP

      Yeah.

    14. JR

      That's the bad thing. So-

    15. BP

      But I'm also just shocked at people who are so anti-gun don't a-... If you're gonna be anti-gun, know your laws.

    16. JR

      I have a great story. My friend, I will, uh, will not name him.

    17. BP

      (laughs)

    18. JR

      But, uh, he's always had guns when he was younger. And he's married and they have a kid. And his wife was like, "No fucking guns. You're never gonna have a gun in this house. We're never gonna have a gun." He's like, "Okay, fine." Pandemic goes down, lockdown. "We need to get a gun. Get a gun. Go out and get a gun." She, he's like, "But what you said..." She's like, "Fuck what I said. Get a fucking gun."

    19. BP

      (laughs)

    20. JR

      Like, immediately, like, yelling at him. "We need a gun. We need a gun."

    21. BP

      Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm.

    22. JR

      So he went out and bought two guns.

    23. BP

      Yeah. It's not-

    24. JR

      I'm like, damn.

    25. BP

      ... gonna take much before shit goes sideways in this town.

    26. JR

      We have to be careful, all you fucking liberals here in California, because you will turn this state Republican. You will do it with all this craziness. You keep things locked down. If Texas starts thriving and all these other states start thriving and they're doing well, uh, Utah is starting to open up, all the states are opening up, if they start thriving and the cases go down, we understand better treatment methods and, and people take better care of their bodies and-

    27. BP

      Mm-hmm.

    28. JR

      ... use smart nutrition, California is gonna be fucked. And someone's gonna come along and exploit that-

    29. BP

      Well-

    30. JR

      ... and say, "This is what I would've done and this is what I'll do now." And they're like, "Fuck yeah." Newport Beach will come out in droves.

  9. 50:0559:59

    Bridget’s real cult story: Osho lineage, polyamory drama, and getting out with sanity intact

    1. BP

      It's so gross. So speaking of cults, I was just thinking about this because I ended up on a cult, kind of, like, accidentally. I didn't have a place to stay.

    2. JR

      Recently?

    3. BP

      No. I was talking to Sam Harris yesterday, and we were talking about all of his time. I didn't know that he spent, like, 10 years as, like, a wandering hippie. I had no idea.

    4. JR

      Yeah.

    5. BP

      In, um, India. And so, I was like, you know, how ... A lot of people don't get out. And when I was traveling for two years around the world, I ended up on a lot of ashrams. And one of them was an Osho ashram, which was that-

    6. JR

      Whoa.

    7. BP

      (laughs) Yeah.

    8. JR

      Really?

    9. BP

      So I came into my room. I wrote a whole piece about it for Mel Magazine.

    10. JR

      "Energy is leaking out of your body."

    11. BP

      It's so ... I walked into my ... Here, I walked in, and my roommate, Samantha Shahu, who's amazing, was watching the documentary. And there's this, like, exercise where they dance, and you go, "Hoo, hoo, hoo, hoo." And it's a meditation that they made up. And I'm like, "Oh, I've done that." And they're naked.

    12. JR

      (laughs)

    13. BP

      And she's like, "Of fucking course you've done this, Bridget."

    14. JR

      (laughs)

    15. BP

      And I sat down. I'm like, "Oh, my God. This is ..." It wasn't Osho 'cause he's obviously dead, but it was his lineage.

    16. JR

      Mm-hmm.

    17. BP

      And it was, it was wild. It was ... I was there for, like, three weeks. (laughs)

    18. JR

      Wow. That documentary-

    19. BP

      But it was ... "They give you a new name."

    20. JR

      ... starts out great. What was your new name? What's your name?

    21. BP

      Uh, Prem Sarita.

    22. JR

      Prem Sarita's beautiful.

    23. BP

      It means river of love.

    24. JR

      Oh.

    25. BP

      Yeah.

    26. JR

      Okay, don't drown.

    27. BP

      But he called me a scumbag. (laughs)

    28. JR

      Did he? Why?

    29. BP

      He ... Because they break you down in front of people. And you, you know me. I couldn't stop laughing. And so he was like, "You are a scumbag. How-"

    30. JR

      Wait a minute. Who is th- is this guy?

  10. 59:591:09:07

    From hemp paper to cartel grow ops: the strange economy and ecology of weed

    1. JR

      It could be sustainable with hemp paper. That's what's really crazy. I mean, all this stuff could be fixed, all this chopping down of trees. If you take 100 acres of hemp, how much more paper you could get out of 100 acres of hemp-

    2. BP

      Hmm.

    3. JR

      ... than 100 acres of trees because you could regar- regrow it every year. Whereas, if you're regrowing trees, you're not making paper outta those trees for years.

    4. BP

      Yeah, yeah. No. (laughs)

    5. JR

      For years.

    6. BP

      No.

    7. JR

      They gotta grow and then you gotta kill them in their prime.

    8. BP

      Hemp is like the buffalo of plants.

    9. JR

      It's nuts.

    10. BP

      (laughs)

    11. JR

      It's nuts.

    12. BP

      Like, you can use every part of it.

    13. JR

      My friend, Todd McCormick, said it's alien.

    14. BP

      Yeah.

    15. JR

      He- and he's, he's like a, a real marijuana wizard. Like, he really understands the history of it. He goes-

    16. BP

      Yes.

    17. JR

      "But if you look at the compounds of it..." He goes, "There's nothing like it on this planet. And then, if you pick up the stalk..." Like, he had a, uh... You remember Jack Herer?

    18. BP

      Mm-mm.

    19. JR

      Jack Herer was, uh, a guy who wrote The Emperor Wears No Clothes.

    20. BP

      Mm.

    21. JR

      It was a book about his transition from being a Goldwater Republican to being, like, a, a pot evangelist.

    22. BP

      Oh, okay.

    23. JR

      And I was very fortunate to meet him and know him. Uh, but he had this, this fucking ... It was either Todd or him, had this stalk of hemp. And it's, it's like, it feels like balsa wood.

    24. BP

      Mm.

    25. JR

      It's so weird.

    26. BP

      Yeah.

    27. JR

      But it's hard, (knocks) like this oak.

    28. BP

      Mm-hmm.

    29. JR

      But it's, it's the strangest plant.

    30. BP

      Yeah, it is weird.

  11. 1:09:071:12:42

    Lockdown coping behaviors: bread baking, toilet paper logic, and alcohol moving from bars to homes

    1. BP

      (laughs) So, have you been baking bread?

    2. JR

      No. Tom Papa has though. He makes good bread.

    3. BP

      I know. I was gonna... I s-... I got, I got hooked.

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