Joe Rogan Experience #1482 - Jordan Jonas

1. 0:00 – 15:00

   All right, we're rolling.…

   1. JRJoe Rogan0:00

      All right, we're rolling.

   2. JJJordan Jonas0:01

      All right.

   3. JRJoe Rogan0:01

      Hey, man, thanks for doing this. I appreciate it.

   4. JJJordan Jonas0:03

      Yeah, it's an honor to be here and to talk to you.

   5. JRJoe Rogan0:04

      My... Hey, my pleasure, honor to talk to you. I, uh, really en-... Uh, first of all, I really enjoyed you on Cuffaro Cast, so-

   6. JJJordan Jonas0:09

      Oh, yeah.

   7. JRJoe Rogan0:10

      ... uh, shout-out to my friend, Aaron Snyder-

   8. JJJordan Jonas0:11

      He says hey.

   9. JRJoe Rogan0:11

      ... and Frank the Tank.

   10. JJJordan Jonas0:13

       (laughs)

   11. JRJoe Rogan0:13

       Say hey right back to him. Uh, I listened to you on the show, and I was like, "Goddamn, what an interesting guy. Uh, what a fucking crazy life-"

   12. JJJordan Jonas0:19

       (laughs)

   13. JRJoe Rogan0:19

       "... you've had." Um, we should... So, you were on that show alone, right?

   14. JJJordan Jonas0:24

       Right, right. (laughs)

   15. JRJoe Rogan0:24

       And, uh, explain that show for people who don't know what the fuck it is.

   16. JJJordan Jonas0:28

       Yeah, so it's a, it's a show where they get, uh, 10 people. You... Each of those people get to pick out 10 basic items, you know, like an ax and a bow and a saw, and a... You know, 10 items.

   17. JRJoe Rogan0:39

       Just 10 items?

   18. JJJordan Jonas0:40

       Right.

   19. JRJoe Rogan0:40

       Does that include arrows? Like, you can only have one-

   20. JJJordan Jonas0:42

       Yeah, your... No, your bow comes with nine arrows.

   21. JRJoe Rogan0:45

       Oh, okay.

   22. JJJordan Jonas0:45

       So, you get a bow and arrows, yeah, I guess is an item.

   23. JRJoe Rogan0:47

       Okay.

   24. JJJordan Jonas0:47

       So, that's a loosely 10 items. And then you, uh... They basically take 10 people, fly them out into, uh, the middle of nowhere and drop them e- ev- each off by themselves. You got all the video camera equipment, and it's just self-filming. And it's basically the last one to give up wins, so-

   25. JRJoe Rogan1:05

       Wow, and how do they-

   26. JJJordan Jonas1:06

       ... yeah.

   27. JRJoe Rogan1:06

       How do you know if anyone's given up before you?

   28. JJJordan Jonas1:09

       You don't. You just... They're out there. You could be out... Like, previously, the show's been up, it's up to a year, you know, so there's a-

   29. JRJoe Rogan1:14

       A year?

   30. JJJordan Jonas1:14

       (laughs) Yeah, yeah. Hypothetically it could go a year, so-
2. 15:00 – 30:00

   Yeah, yeah, yeah. …

   1. JRJoe Rogan15:00

      accent from Florida?

   2. JJJordan Jonas15:00

      Yeah, yeah, yeah.

   3. JRJoe Rogan15:01

      You know? And, you know, Florida's all over the fucking place. They don't know where they are.

   4. JJJordan Jonas15:04

      Yeah, yeah.

   5. JRJoe Rogan15:05

      (laughs)

   6. JJJordan Jonas15:05

      I've heard.

   7. JRJoe Rogan15:06

      They're not even sure they're American.

   8. JJJordan Jonas15:07

      (laughs)

   9. JRJoe Rogan15:07

      They're just like ... They're floating. But-

   10. JJJordan Jonas15:10

       So I hear.

   11. JRJoe Rogan15:11

       It just, it's, it ... You know, you go to Texas. They've ... Totally different way of talking-

   12. JJJordan Jonas15:14

       Right, right.

   13. JRJoe Rogan15:15

       ... than they do in California. It's like-

   14. JJJordan Jonas15:16

       Yup.

   15. JRJoe Rogan15:16

       It's interesting.

   16. JJJordan Jonas15:17

       It is interesting a little. That's just, I guess, how new languages develop over time, you know?

   17. JRJoe Rogan15:22

       Yeah.

   18. JJJordan Jonas15:22

       Fascinating.

   19. JRJoe Rogan15:22

       Well, that's what's always been weird to me.

   20. JJJordan Jonas15:24

       Yeah.

   21. JRJoe Rogan15:24

       It's like, I don't speak Italian.

   22. JJJordan Jonas15:27

       Uh-huh.

   23. JRJoe Rogan15:27

       But my grandparents did, and they spoke dialect.

   24. JJJordan Jonas15:30

       Right.

   25. JRJoe Rogan15:30

       So, like, they spoke, like, a Sicilian dialect.

   26. JJJordan Jonas15:32

       Mm-hmm, mm-hmm.

   27. JRJoe Rogan15:33

       So they would, they would talk. Like, they, they would say shit that people who speak proper Italian didn't have-

   28. JJJordan Jonas15:39

       Didn't even understand.

   29. JRJoe Rogan15:39

       ... no idea what they were talking about.

   30. JJJordan Jonas15:41

       Yeah, yeah, yeah.
3. 30:00 – 45:00

   Whoa. …

   1. JJJordan Jonas30:00

      end, you have a string tied to it, so you push it and keep trying that until you get it to slide under the ice to the other hole, and when you do, you pull the stick out of that hole and tie your net-

   2. JRJoe Rogan30:10

      Whoa.

   3. JJJordan Jonas30:10

      ... on the end of the other one, and you can pull-

   4. JRJoe Rogan30:12

      So on the-

   5. JJJordan Jonas30:13

      ... the string through.

   6. JRJoe Rogan30:14

      The s- string on the end of the stick, do you catch it with a hook or something and try to pull it up? Like-

   7. JJJordan Jonas30:18

      Uh, let me see if I can... Yeah, no, you just, uh... You pull the actual stick up through with the string tied on the backside of it, so-

   8. JRJoe Rogan30:25

      So you just have to find the stick.

   9. JJJordan Jonas30:26

      You have two holes. Yeah, you just gotta get the stick to... You might have to, three or four times, slide it under the ice until it ends up-

   10. JRJoe Rogan30:31

       To get to the other hole.

   11. JJJordan Jonas30:32

       ... where the other hole is, yeah.

   12. JRJoe Rogan30:33

       Whoa.

   13. JJJordan Jonas30:34

       Yeah, yeah, it works good. I did it on that alone show, and it was fun.

   14. JRJoe Rogan30:37

       Yeah, that's why I'm asking.

   15. JJJordan Jonas30:39

       Yeah, yeah. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

   16. JRJoe Rogan30:40

       And so, that must be really hard to do by yourself 'cause I've seen people do it on television-

   17. JJJordan Jonas30:44

       Mm-hmm.

   18. JRJoe Rogan30:44

       ... on those-

   19. JJJordan Jonas30:45

       Mm-hmm.

   20. JRJoe Rogan30:45

       ... survival Alaska shows.

   21. JJJordan Jonas30:47

       Oh, right.

   22. JRJoe Rogan30:47

       You know?

   23. JJJordan Jonas30:47

       It wasn't too bad. No, it was... I, uh... That part wasn't too hard. (laughs)

   24. JRJoe Rogan30:52

       (laughs)

   25. JJJordan Jonas30:53

       But, uh, no, yeah. I don't know. It was all... It's good stuff to learn out there with the natives and then came in handy, for sure.

   26. JRJoe Rogan30:59

       Have you ever seen the Werner Herzog documentary-

   27. JJJordan Jonas31:02

       Yeah, that's all...

   28. JRJoe Rogan31:03

       ... Happy People?

   29. JJJordan Jonas31:03

       Yeah, yeah.

   30. JRJoe Rogan31:03

       Yeah.
4. 45:00 – 1:00:00

   Yeah. …

   1. JRJoe Rogan45:00

      you farm and l- let the animals just live like animals live-

   2. JJJordan Jonas45:03

      Yeah.

   3. JRJoe Rogan45:04

      ... you use their manure, they shit on the ground, they eat the grass.

   4. JJJordan Jonas45:07

      Exactly.

   5. JRJoe Rogan45:07

      And it's actually... Not only does it not add carbon to the atmosphere-

   6. JJJordan Jonas45:12

      Mm-hmm.

   7. JRJoe Rogan45:12

      ... it actually takes it out. And it-

   8. JJJordan Jonas45:13

      Right, it builds a-

   9. JRJoe Rogan45:14

      Yeah, it actually builds healthy soil.

   10. JJJordan Jonas45:16

       ... ecosystem. Yeah.

   11. JRJoe Rogan45:16

       Like, you don't need fertilizer. The, they... It's natural.

   12. JJJordan Jonas45:19

       Yeah.

   13. JRJoe Rogan45:19

       Like, there's a whole system that nature's put in place, but when we have these-

   14. JJJordan Jonas45:23

       Absolutely.

   15. JRJoe Rogan45:23

       ... mono-crop agricultural setups and these weird factory farm setups, we're, we're just hijacking nature-

   16. JJJordan Jonas45:31

       Yeah (laughs) .

   17. JRJoe Rogan45:31

       ... and forcing it to do slave labor.

   18. JJJordan Jonas45:33

       Yeah, it's a shame, man. It'd be, it'd be cool to tap into a, you know, like permaculture, I guess they call it.

   19. JRJoe Rogan45:40

       Yeah. Mm-hmm.

   20. JJJordan Jonas45:40

       Just tap into some of that on a larger scale, 'cause it is, doesn't seem very sustainable what those-

   21. JRJoe Rogan45:46

       No, th- it doesn't.

   22. JJJordan Jonas45:47

       ... uh-

   23. JRJoe Rogan45:47

       And the large-scale stuff, I mean, he was kinda saying that it was possible to feed like all of Los Angeles that way, but I'm like, "Oh, I'm not gonna do this."

   24. JJJordan Jonas45:53

       (laughs)

   25. JRJoe Rogan45:54

       It was (laughs) -

   26. JJJordan Jonas45:55

       (laughs)

   27. JRJoe Rogan45:55

       It's like, that's a lot of people, man. I'm not, I'm not sure.

   28. JJJordan Jonas45:58

       Yeah, right.

   29. JRJoe Rogan45:58

       It's never been done.

   30. JJJordan Jonas45:59

       Right.
5. 1:00:00 – 1:04:41

   Right, right. …

   1. JRJoe Rogan1:00:00

      on, you know, he's not on Xanax, you are.

   2. JJJordan Jonas1:00:02

      Right, right.

   3. JRJoe Rogan1:00:03

      He, he doesn't drink before he goes to bed every night because he c- can't deal with life, you do.

   4. JJJordan Jonas1:00:06

      It's cool 'cause you're out there, and it's like ...

   5. JRJoe Rogan1:00:09

      Yeah.

   6. JJJordan Jonas1:00:09

      ... your creative juices flowing, you know? Like, you get problems constantly coming up, and it's like you gotta-

   7. JRJoe Rogan1:00:14

      Yeah.

   8. JJJordan Jonas1:00:15

      ... think to solve them, and they're all ... I ... Even that's probably how people, like, developed creativity. It's like-

   9. JRJoe Rogan1:00:19

      Yeah.

   10. JJJordan Jonas1:00:20

       ... "How do I catch this moose?" Or, "How do I-"

   11. JRJoe Rogan1:00:22

       Right.

   12. JJJordan Jonas1:00:22

       "... you know, do this or that?" And, uh, and you really just feel alive in that way. You really do. I, you know.

   13. JRJoe Rogan1:00:29

       Well, so many people have done it-

   14. JJJordan Jonas1:00:30

       Mm-hmm.

   15. JRJoe Rogan1:00:30

       ... and, like, detached and then documented it, like, uh, I'm sure you're, you're aware of, uh, Dick Proenneke.

   16. JJJordan Jonas1:00:35

       Yeah.

   17. JRJoe Rogan1:00:36

       Yeah.

   18. JJJordan Jonas1:00:36

       Yeah, yeah. Mm-hmm.

   19. JRJoe Rogan1:00:36

       So, he's got ... There's a bunch of great videos of-

   20. JJJordan Jonas1:00:38

       Mm-hmm.

   21. JRJoe Rogan1:00:38

       ... him before he died, where he, you know, he l- he moved up there. I believe he had some sort of an industrial accident when he was-

   22. JJJordan Jonas1:00:45

       Mm-hmm.

   23. JRJoe Rogan1:00:45

       ... like, in his late 40s or early 50s, and-

   24. JJJordan Jonas1:00:47

       Mm-hmm.

   25. JRJoe Rogan1:00:48

       ... almost went blind-

   26. JJJordan Jonas1:00:49

       Mm-hmm.

   27. JRJoe Rogan1:00:49

       ... and then made the decision like, "I'm not living like this anymore."

   28. JJJordan Jonas1:00:52

       Right.

   29. JRJoe Rogan1:00:53

       "I'm, I'm gonna get a fucking cabin."

   30. JJJordan Jonas1:00:54

       Right.

Episode duration: 2:13:25