Joe Rogan Experience #1483 - Jesus Trejo

1. 0:00 – 15:00

   Jesus, my man. …

   1. JTJesus Trejo0:01

      Jesus, my man.

   2. JRJoe Rogan0:02

      What's up, man?

   3. JTJesus Trejo0:03

      What's up, brother? Good to see you.

   4. JRJoe Rogan0:04

      Good to see you, man. Thank you so much for this amazing opportunity. I, I, I couldn't sleep last night.

   5. JTJesus Trejo0:09

      Aw, get outta here.

   6. JRJoe Rogan0:10

      Yeah, I was... Yeah, no, I was excited. I laid down my, my, my outfit and ironed it.

   7. JTJesus Trejo0:15

      (laughs)

   8. JRJoe Rogan0:15

      I'm like... You know, I got... Yeah, lint roller.

   9. JTJesus Trejo0:17

      That's so crazy. Dude, you and I have been friends for years.

   10. JRJoe Rogan0:20

       Yeah.

   11. JTJesus Trejo0:20

       You gotta, you gotta relax.

   12. JRJoe Rogan0:22

       But this is a big deal. I mean, you're, you're, you're-

   13. JTJesus Trejo0:24

       Try to get that shit outta your head. Try to get that big deal outta your head.

   14. JRJoe Rogan0:27

       Yeah.

   15. JTJesus Trejo0:29

       Just clean it, clean it. You got a big deal. Tomorrow night, showtime. Well, when this airs, it'll be tonight.

   16. JRJoe Rogan0:34

       Yeah, it'll be tonight, yeah.

   17. JTJesus Trejo0:35

       Showtime.

   18. JRJoe Rogan0:36

       My first one-hour special.

   19. JTJesus Trejo0:37

       That's amazing.

   20. JRJoe Rogan0:38

       Yeah.

   21. JTJesus Trejo0:38

       I'm excited for you. I've seen you working it out. It's hilarious shit.

   22. JRJoe Rogan0:41

       Thank you, man.

   23. JTJesus Trejo0:41

       And I know you've been really grinding up until this pandemic, but luckily, you filmed it. You got under the wire, right?

   24. JRJoe Rogan0:47

       Yeah.

   25. JTJesus Trejo0:47

       How, how many months out were you?

   26. JRJoe Rogan0:49

       Um, I filmed it November 2nd.

   27. JTJesus Trejo0:51

       Oh, okay.

   28. JRJoe Rogan0:51

       Yeah.

   29. JTJesus Trejo0:51

       So you missed it by a couple months. That's good.

   30. JRJoe Rogan0:53

       Yeah, November 2nd, I filmed it. And, you know, people think I, I named the special Stay-at-Home Son because of what was going on, but I, I landed on the, on the title, uh, in the summer.
2. 15:00 – 30:00

   Right. …

   1. JTJesus Trejo15:00

      but you would be thinking like, "What's the point? It's just ... I'm just gonna do this forever and ever and ever?"

   2. JRJoe Rogan15:06

      Right.

   3. JTJesus Trejo15:06

      Like, "Am I cool with that?" (laughs)

   4. JRJoe Rogan15:08

      (laughs) Do you think the human mind wants like a- like a kind of- kind of a ...

   5. JTJesus Trejo15:12

      Structure.

   6. JRJoe Rogan15:12

      An ending, like they want a- like a ending. "I wanna know how this ends."

   7. JTJesus Trejo15:16

      Well, this is how you have to look at it. This is how ... Oh, no, you don't have to look at it this way.

   8. JRJoe Rogan15:19

      (laughs)

   9. JTJesus Trejo15:19

      But from ... (laughs) From ... This is how I look at it.

   10. JRJoe Rogan15:21

       Okay. I'm- I'm ... Yeah, that's the way I look at it, Joe. (laughs)

   11. JTJesus Trejo15:23

       We all ... We exist in these shifts that we all agree, uh, are necessary, like sleep. Like so we have on and off, and on and off, and nobody violates that. There's no- no one gets to not go off. On and off. You could hold off off for a long time.

   12. JRJoe Rogan15:43

       But eventually.

   13. JTJesus Trejo15:43

       Two days.

   14. JRJoe Rogan15:45

       (laughs)

   15. JTJesus Trejo15:45

       "I've been up for 48 hours." Boom.

   16. JRJoe Rogan15:47

       (laughs)

   17. JTJesus Trejo15:47

       And you go down. You might go down for 12 hours.

   18. JRJoe Rogan15:49

       Right.

   19. JTJesus Trejo15:50

       We all agree that this is a part of this thing that we do. So, I think we take comfort in like having markers. Like, "Oh, it's lunchtime. Oh, it's dinnertime."

   20. JRJoe Rogan16:03

       Mm-hmm.

   21. JTJesus Trejo16:03

       "Let's watch a show and then, uh-"

   22. JRJoe Rogan16:05

       Right.

   23. JTJesus Trejo16:05

       "... I'm gonna take a shower and go to bed." And- you know, uh, it gets to- you get to these markers where they- they're in your head and it kinda makes life make sense. Like, "Oh, you're just looking forward to the next thing, and looking forward to the next thing." But if you knew for a fact that this life goes on forever-

   24. JRJoe Rogan16:21

       Mm-hmm.

   25. JTJesus Trejo16:21

       ... forever and ever and ever, it could go on a million eons.

   26. JRJoe Rogan16:25

       Yeah.

   27. JTJesus Trejo16:25

       You gotta get it right.

   28. JRJoe Rogan16:26

       Right.

   29. JTJesus Trejo16:27

       Is this ... Life doesn't give a fuck what the 1950s were like or what- what kinda cars people drove in the '70s. This life doesn't give a fuck. It's just gonna do the same thing again.

   30. JRJoe Rogan16:35

       Over and over again.
3. 30:00 – 45:00

   Yay! …

   1. JRJoe Rogan30:00

      go Gators.

   2. JTJesus Trejo30:01

      Yay!

   3. JRJoe Rogan30:01

      That's-

   4. JTJesus Trejo30:02

      Go people-eating monsters.

   5. JRJoe Rogan30:04

      Oh, man. Yeah, and- and you- you see like, you know, footage of like, you know, golf courses with these alligators just-

   6. JTJesus Trejo30:10

      Chilling.

   7. JRJoe Rogan30:10

      ... chilling. Just like, "Whoo."

   8. JTJesus Trejo30:12

      And people are laughing. "Aha. Look! He's right there!" Dude, a baby got eaten by one at Disneyland last year. A baby.

   9. JRJoe Rogan30:18

      They got alligators at Disneyland?

   10. JTJesus Trejo30:19

       Yes. Dude, they have to f- they have to fucking chase them away.

   11. JRJoe Rogan30:23

       Oh, wow.

   12. JTJesus Trejo30:24

       Yeah. I went there. I went there with my family and, uh, my youngest daughter and I went fishing-... we went out onto this lake and we're, uh, going bass fishing. It was really fun. It was great. Florida's like, the best bass fishing in the world.

   13. JRJoe Rogan30:36

       Ah.

   14. JTJesus Trejo30:37

       But everywhere you look, you go, "Is that a log? Is that a gator? Is that a log? Is that a gator? What is that? Is that a log or a fucking dinosaur that's gonna eat me?" Like, bro, they get huge. Huge, like 15 feet.

   15. JRJoe Rogan30:47

       Yeah. And that's common. That's not a like, a, oh, th- yeah.

   16. JTJesus Trejo30:51

       Normal.

   17. JRJoe Rogan30:51

       That's a normal thing?

   18. JTJesus Trejo30:52

       Normal shit. It happens all the time. There was one, um ... We went back and forth on this, Jamie. That was, uh, we couldn't find it at first, the one where the alligator was (laughs) stopped traffic. Bro, it's crazy.

   19. JVJamie Vernon31:03

       Oh, yeah. That was a different one.

   20. JTJesus Trejo31:04

       Oh, uh-

   21. JVJamie Vernon31:04

       I just ... Hmm.

   22. JTJesus Trejo31:04

       It's... Well, they're all crazy, but it's crazy.

   23. JRJoe Rogan31:07

       Yeah, it's cr-

   24. JTJesus Trejo31:07

       It's like, you- you hear you are driving your car and this I-don't-give-a-fuck dinosaur is just walking across the street.

   25. JRJoe Rogan31:13

       Right. Well, hey, they- they're- they're building these ... You know, they're building cities on their ... in- in their neighborhood, so it's just like-

   26. JTJesus Trejo31:19

       Sort of. The real thing is they're overpopulated.

   27. JRJoe Rogan31:22

       All right.

   28. JTJesus Trejo31:22

       They're overpop- look at that thing. What the fuck, bro? (laughs)

   29. JRJoe Rogan31:25

       Holy ... (slaps table)

   30. JVJamie Vernon31:27

       (laughs)
4. 45:00 – 1:00:00

   Well, like the inception…

   1. JTJesus Trejo45:00

      "We found... It's good, it's good. This person's fucking up."

   2. JRJoe Rogan45:03

      Well, like the inception of this program, wasn't it like a, like a neighborhood watch program?

   3. JTJesus Trejo45:07

      There's nothing wrong with that.

   4. JRJoe Rogan45:07

      And like you always see, you always see these signs as like, "Who is in this neighborhood watch program?"

   5. JTJesus Trejo45:12

      Yeah. Well, that's the other thing, right? How much are they watching? You know, people are so lazy. (laughs)

   6. JVJamie Vernon45:17

      This is kind of what... There's a bunch of actual rewards up here right now. They're looking for information on a bunch of shootings and-

   7. JTJesus Trejo45:22

      Oh, I'm sure.

   8. JVJamie Vernon45:22

      ... there's a $25,000 reward.

   9. JTJesus Trejo45:24

      Bro, here's the thing, they don't have the time. They don't have the time. There's so many things that are going on in LA at all times. Somebody breaks in your house, like, "Did you die?" "Uh, we got, we got shit to do." They're not gonna have a full time Columbo on the job with fucking dusting for fingerprints.

   10. JRJoe Rogan45:39

       They don't have that kind of bandwidth. There's no way.

   11. JTJesus Trejo45:40

       They don't have that kind of bandwidth.

   12. JRJoe Rogan45:42

       Yeah. Hiring people, especially with budget cuts and all the... You, you know, they don't have that kind of bandwidth and manpower needed to look into everything, so they just-

   13. JTJesus Trejo45:49

       Dude, the shit that's going down in Minneapolis is crazy.

   14. JRJoe Rogan45:52

       Crazy, man.

   15. JTJesus Trejo45:52

       Crazy.

   16. JRJoe Rogan45:53

       You see the, the video, the looting stuff and-

   17. JTJesus Trejo45:55

       The video of the looting is crazy, but the video of the guy-

   18. JRJoe Rogan45:57

       Of the guy.

   19. JTJesus Trejo45:57

       ... with his shin on that man's neck-

   20. JRJoe Rogan46:00

       (exhales)

   21. JTJesus Trejo46:00

       ... while the guy is begging for his life, telling-

   22. JRJoe Rogan46:03

       Goosebumps. Like, it, it's so heartbreaking 'cause he's, he, he's trying. And, and even as he's talking, he's like, "Officer, I can't breathe." Like, he's-

   23. JTJesus Trejo46:11

       But he's... That guy's gotta have some sort of physical training, right? He's gotta have... I mean, cops, do they teach them jujitsu?

   24. JRJoe Rogan46:18

       Um, some. I mean, uh, I, I'm... I mean, but, it's like to put the kn- I, I don't know that an- any law enforcement is, is teaches knee on the neck.

   25. JTJesus Trejo46:27

       No, no, no, that's-

   26. JRJoe Rogan46:28

       I mean, that's a thing.

   27. JTJesus Trejo46:28

       That's what I was gonna say. It's like, it's a shitty thing to do. Like, if you did that in jujitsu class, people would be really mad at you.

   28. JRJoe Rogan46:34

       Right.

   29. JTJesus Trejo46:34

       They'd be like, "Hey, man, fuck you. Get off my neck." You know? Like, this is, you, you're in the, the position he was in, too. Handcuffed on the street. Wo- So you have one really hard surface where your neck is pressed on the bottom and then him on the top, coming down with his shin. That cuts off all blood to the brain, it cuts off your ability to breathe.

   30. JRJoe Rogan46:55

       Mm-hmm.
5. 1:00:00 – 1:04:57

   (laughs) Oh, man. …

   1. JTJesus Trejo1:00:00

   2. JRJoe Rogan1:00:00

      (laughs) Oh, man.

   3. JTJesus Trejo1:00:00

      That's an embarrassment to the martial arts, sir.

   4. JRJoe Rogan1:00:03

      (laughs)

   5. JTJesus Trejo1:00:04

      And to the police department.

   6. JVJamie Vernon1:00:05

      As YouTube goes, the YouTube comments are just roasting the cop for being like... Not being able to... What you're saying.

   7. JRJoe Rogan1:00:10

      Oh, really?

   8. JTJesus Trejo1:00:10

      Oh, it was terrible technique. But first of all, here's the reality. That guy that he was trying to hit and take down was enormous.

   9. JRJoe Rogan1:00:16

      Yeah.

   10. JTJesus Trejo1:00:16

       He could have hit that guy all day long with his bitch ass punches.

   11. JRJoe Rogan1:00:19

       (laughs)

   12. JTJesus Trejo1:00:19

       It's not gonna work. That guy was big.

   13. JRJoe Rogan1:00:21

       He was a big guy.

   14. JTJesus Trejo1:00:21

       You see the size of that guy's neck? You look like a fucking football player.

   15. JRJoe Rogan1:00:24

       Yeah.

   16. JTJesus Trejo1:00:24

       He looked like a pro wrestler or something. That guy was enormous and he wasn't taking that guy down. And if that guy decided to just pick him up by the neck and fucking pile drive him into the concrete, he couldn't have said shit about it.

   17. JVJamie Vernon1:00:34

       Right.

   18. JTJesus Trejo1:00:35

       The only thing that saved him is that he was a cop, but that's probably why he did it in the first place. That's probably why he became a cop, you know? That... Those psychological flaws.

   19. JRJoe Rogan1:00:42

       Yeah.

   20. JTJesus Trejo1:00:43

       I still feel the same way... You know, I'm, I'm... I f- I feel like cops are in a, in a sense, they're so necessary and yet so disrespected and underappreciated, and then they're also forced into doing things that are, that are not what they signed up for. Like giving people tickets.... like, cops become glorified revenue collectors if you just make them sit, hiding behind a bush, waiting for someone to go 49 on a 45. Like, "I got him. Pull over."

   21. JRJoe Rogan1:01:14

       Yeah.

   22. JTJesus Trejo1:01:14

       Yeah. Well, that's not what a cop signed up for. There s- they signed up to stop bad guys and make the community safer.

   23. JRJoe Rogan1:01:19

       And then it opens up a whole thing with, you know, you know, Fourth Amendment probable cause. You know?

   24. JTJesus Trejo1:01:24

       Yeah.

   25. JRJoe Rogan1:01:24

       You get stopped for one thing and it opens the door for, for other things. So-

   26. JTJesus Trejo1:01:27

       On Snoop Dogg's page, he's got a really good video of a good cop talking about what these cops did wrong. And I love that Snoop put that up there.

   27. JRJoe Rogan1:01:36

       On his Instagram?

   28. JTJesus Trejo1:01:36

       Yeah, on Snoop's Instagram. I love that Snoop-

   29. JRJoe Rogan1:01:38

       I gotta check that out.

   30. JTJesus Trejo1:01:38

       ... put it up there too, because he said, "Here's a good cop and a good cop's take." And I agree with everything the cop said. He was dead on about everything, about all of it. And he, you know, he's an actual police officer. But I like the fact that Snoop put that up there.

Episode duration: 2:42:48