Joe Rogan Experience #1495 - Kyle Dunnigan

1. 0:01 – 0:53

   Reefer Madness, the Hearst family, and accidental misinformation comedy

   1. JRJoe Rogan0:01

      Kyle Dunnigan smoking marijuana. This is dangerous.

   2. KDKyle Dunnigan0:04

      Is it?

   3. JRJoe Rogan0:04

      You're gonna go crazy.

   4. KDKyle Dunnigan0:05

      You think?

   5. JRJoe Rogan0:05

      Yes. Don't you watch those movies?

   6. KDKyle Dunnigan0:08

      Oh, I forgot about that. Yeah, pot drugs will, uh, make you crazy.

   7. JRJoe Rogan0:11

      They'll make you nuts.

   8. KDKyle Dunnigan0:12

      Are you talking about those old videos, the old-timey black and white where they literally had-

   9. JRJoe Rogan0:15

      Reefer Madness.

   10. KDKyle Dunnigan0:16

       Yeah.

   11. JRJoe Rogan0:17

       Yeah. Do you know where those are, wh- what those were funded by?

   12. KDKyle Dunnigan0:20

       Who?

   13. JRJoe Rogan0:21

       William Randolph Hearst.

   14. KDKyle Dunnigan0:23

       Is that right?

   15. JRJoe Rogan0:23

       Yeah, that piece of shit.

   16. KDKyle Dunnigan0:25

       He was a piece of shit, right?

   17. JRJoe Rogan0:26

       Grow spud. Yeah.

   18. KDKyle Dunnigan0:27

       And his daughter brought a gun into a bank.

   19. JRJoe Rogan0:30

       Wow. Why?

   20. KDKyle Dunnigan0:31

       Right?

   21. JRJoe Rogan0:31

       Maybe she wanted to protect her money. She's rich as fuck. It's not-

   22. KDKyle Dunnigan0:33

       Is that-

   23. JRJoe Rogan0:33

       ... like she's robbing the place.

   24. KDKyle Dunnigan0:35

       Do I have the wrong person?

   25. JRJoe Rogan0:35

       Patty Hearst.

   26. KDKyle Dunnigan0:36

       Patty Hearst. Got it.

   27. JRJoe Rogan0:36

       That's right. Yeah.

   28. KDKyle Dunnigan0:37

       Okay, yeah.

   29. JRJoe Rogan0:37

       Must be related, right?

   30. KDKyle Dunnigan0:38

       Yeah.
2. 0:53 – 3:04

   Invasive species rabbit hole: wild pigs, Australia’s feral cats, and bounties

   1. JRJoe Rogan0:53

      Well, William Randolph Hearst is also the reason why there's wild pigs in California.

   2. KDKyle Dunnigan0:58

      How's, why's that?

   3. JRJoe Rogan0:59

      Because that asshole brought them to his ranch. He wanted to have a menagerie. I think that's the correct term, menagerie of animals.

   4. KDKyle Dunnigan1:05

      Oh.

   5. JRJoe Rogan1:06

      He's a nutty person. You can visit Hearst Castle. It's this crazy place.

   6. KDKyle Dunnigan1:09

      Yeah.

   7. JRJoe Rogan1:10

      Yeah.

   8. KDKyle Dunnigan1:10

      I wanna go there.

   9. JRJoe Rogan1:11

      So Northern California has kind of an infestation of wild pigs, and it's because, directly because of William Randolph Hearst.

   10. KDKyle Dunnigan1:18

       Really?

   11. JRJoe Rogan1:18

       The pigs that left his compound just started fucking and running through the woods. Like, there it is. That's the, that's the place.

   12. KDKyle Dunnigan1:24

       I feel like you could solve that with a bow and arrow.

   13. JRJoe Rogan1:27

       It's hard. No, it's very-

   14. KDKyle Dunnigan1:27

       And call some of your friends.

   15. JRJoe Rogan1:28

       ... hard to solve.

   16. KDKyle Dunnigan1:29

       Hmm.

   17. JRJoe Rogan1:29

       W- well, wild pigs are the hardest, uh, animal to solve in terms of, like, uh, invasive species 'cause they fuck like crazy and they breed, like, three times a year.

   18. KDKyle Dunnigan1:38

       Oh.

   19. JRJoe Rogan1:38

       So one pig can have, like, three litters in a year.

   20. KDKyle Dunnigan1:42

       So, yeah, pigs love to fuck.

   21. JRJoe Rogan1:43

       They love it.

   22. KDKyle Dunnigan1:44

       I've always said that.

   23. JRJoe Rogan1:44

       They're dirty pigs.

   24. KDKyle Dunnigan1:45

       There's something in Hawaii where they had some infestation and they brought in this other animal to get it, but they brought the wrong animal and then that became the infestation. Again, something I don't have enough information about.

   25. JRJoe Rogan1:55

       Yeah, I think that's a mis- I think you're incorrect about that. Because for something that could kill pigs, it would have to be a big predator, like a cat.

   26. KDKyle Dunnigan2:02

       Oh, no, this wasn't pigs. This was, like, a different infestation in Hawaii.

   27. JRJoe Rogan2:06

       Well, okay.

   28. KDKyle Dunnigan2:07

       It was, um, it was slightly, slightly related to your story.

   29. JRJoe Rogan2:09

       Slightly. Well, I know they did that in Australia. Australia fucked themselves up hardcore. They brought in animals to kill animals and those animals wound up-

   30. KDKyle Dunnigan2:18

       Yeah.
3. 3:04 – 4:43

   Mustard weed, lawns, and ‘plant racism’ (why we love uniform grass)

   1. KDKyle Dunnigan3:04

      You're the one who told me about the, uh, the mustard weed. And once you said that-

   2. JRJoe Rogan3:08

      Oh, yeah.

   3. KDKyle Dunnigan3:08

      ... I can't not see mustard weed.

   4. JRJoe Rogan3:10

      Isn't that crazy? I think it came from Russia. That crazy, beautiful yellow weed that covers the hills in California. It's really pretty.

   5. KDKyle Dunnigan3:17

      I, you know-

   6. JRJoe Rogan3:17

      It looks awesome.

   7. KDKyle Dunnigan3:18

      ... I thought it was pretty 'til you told me it was a weed. Now I think it looks gross.

   8. JRJoe Rogan3:21

      Isn't that weird? You call one plant one thing, another plant... It's a fucking plant. You know, like, we're, we're, we're really racist with plants.

   9. KDKyle Dunnigan3:28

      We are. We're plantists.

   10. JRJoe Rogan3:29

       You know, we're plantists.

   11. KDKyle Dunnigan3:31

       Yeah.

   12. JRJoe Rogan3:31

       So if you see, like, a beautiful green grass but it's got some weird, like, daisies popping up, people get mad at those daisies.

   13. KDKyle Dunnigan3:37

       They're nice.

   14. JRJoe Rogan3:37

       "Fucking daisies ruining my grass." They'll go pluck 'em.

   15. KDKyle Dunnigan3:40

       Yeah.

   16. JRJoe Rogan3:40

       Rip 'em out of their life.

   17. KDKyle Dunnigan3:41

       Yeah.

   18. JRJoe Rogan3:41

       "Fuck you. You're not what I want."

   19. KDKyle Dunnigan3:43

       Yeah, they're very, I have a bunch-

   20. JRJoe Rogan3:45

       Uniform.

   21. KDKyle Dunnigan3:45

       What's that?

   22. JRJoe Rogan3:46

       They want uniform. "Just mow the grass already."

   23. KDKyle Dunnigan3:48

       Yeah, right, right, right. Yeah.

   24. JRJoe Rogan3:48

       Isn't that a weird thing that we do our law- lawn is a weird thing.

   25. KDKyle Dunnigan3:51

       How so?

   26. JRJoe Rogan3:52

       We're controlling nature on, on a large scale in our own community, our own little yard.

   27. KDKyle Dunnigan3:58

       Yeah.

   28. JRJoe Rogan3:58

       We have a little spot.

   29. KDKyle Dunnigan3:59

       Yeah.

   30. JRJoe Rogan3:59

       And we lock it down. We want that grass nice.
4. 4:43 – 7:26

   Lumberjacks, ‘lumberjills,’ and the reality-show-ification of everything

   1. KDKyle Dunnigan4:43

      Is that the manliest job, the lumberjack?

   2. JRJoe Rogan4:45

      Oh, for sure. How many chick lumberjacks are there?

   3. KDKyle Dunnigan4:49

      Three.

   4. JRJoe Rogan4:49

      Those gotta be the toughest women on the planet, lumberjack chicks. They're like, it's like MM- female MMA fighters, like Amanda Nunes and then lumberjack chicks. (laughs)

   5. KDKyle Dunnigan4:57

      After the, after the chainsaw though, it's a little bit like...

   6. JRJoe Rogan5:01

      It's still, it's dangerous as fuck.

   7. KDKyle Dunnigan5:03

      Yeah.

   8. JRJoe Rogan5:03

      You gotta do it right. Things go wrong all the time. People get hit with trees. Yeah.

   9. KDKyle Dunnigan5:07

      We've talked about everything I don't know anything about so far.

   10. JRJoe Rogan5:09

       Me too. I don't know what I'm talking about. Maybe people never get hit by trees. I'm pretty sure they do though.

   11. KDKyle Dunnigan5:13

       (laughs) I think it's actually pretty safe.

   12. JRJoe Rogan5:15

       (laughs) It turns out lumberjacks never die. They-

   13. KDKyle Dunnigan5:17

       Yeah.

   14. JRJoe Rogan5:17

       ... they live older than everybody. No, I think, I think they die all the time. I think, well, I just, they're... If you see a fucking tree, like a big ass oak tree, my God, that's a lot of weight.

   15. KDKyle Dunnigan5:28

       Yeah.

   16. JRJoe Rogan5:28

       That thing could crush you so easy.

   17. KDKyle Dunnigan5:30

       Oh, yeah.

   18. JRJoe Rogan5:30

       If you fuck up and it hits, takes a bounce and it hits somebody or, I mean, I don't know how they chop trees down.

   19. KDKyle Dunnigan5:35

       Yeah.

   20. JRJoe Rogan5:35

       But you're just dealing with so much weight.

   21. KDKyle Dunnigan5:37

       Yeah, yeah.

   22. JRJoe Rogan5:38

       I could imagine, like, if someone fuck- Like, if you don't know what you're doing, you're an asshole and you just bought a plot of land. "I'm gonna be a farmer." And you start-

   23. KDKyle Dunnigan5:43

       Yeah. (laughs)

   24. JRJoe Rogan5:44

       ... fucking chopping down trees by yourself-

   25. KDKyle Dunnigan5:45

       Yeah.

   26. JRJoe Rogan5:46

       ... you could kill yourself easy.

   27. KDKyle Dunnigan5:48

       You gotta do the wedge. I know what I'm talking about, all right?

   28. JRJoe Rogan5:51

       I don't know what I'm talking about either, but they do have a method to it. But it, but I wonder how many women... That would be a crazy reality show. They probably have already done it.

   29. KDKyle Dunnigan6:00

       Yeah.

   30. JRJoe Rogan6:00

       Female lumberjacks.
5. 7:26 – 10:06

   Whiskey, missing comics, and dating during lockdown (the agony of ‘normie’ calls)

   1. KDKyle Dunnigan7:26

      Awesome. And don't you have like this, like whiskey you give everybody?

   2. JRJoe Rogan7:29

      Do you want some whiskey?

   3. KDKyle Dunnigan7:30

      Is this too much?

   4. JRJoe Rogan7:31

      No.

   5. KDKyle Dunnigan7:31

      Sure.

   6. JRJoe Rogan7:31

      No. Come on, pal.

   7. KDKyle Dunnigan7:32

      A little bit. A little bit.

   8. JRJoe Rogan7:32

      Haven't seen you in forever, man.

   9. KDKyle Dunnigan7:34

      I know. I know.

   10. JRJoe Rogan7:34

       With the comedy store embargo.

   11. KDKyle Dunnigan7:36

       I know.

   12. JRJoe Rogan7:36

       It's just beautiful to be in the room with you.

   13. KDKyle Dunnigan7:37

       I know. It actually is really nice to-

   14. JRJoe Rogan7:39

       It's fun.

   15. KDKyle Dunnigan7:39

       ... be with humans.

   16. JRJoe Rogan7:40

       Oh, it's so nice to be with comics.

   17. KDKyle Dunnigan7:43

       (sighs) Yeah.

   18. JRJoe Rogan7:43

       Like Doug Stanhope-

   19. KDKyle Dunnigan7:44

       I miss that.

   20. JRJoe Rogan7:44

       ... said this best, and I quote him all the time, but it really is a great quote. He said, "I could quit comedy, but I couldn't quit comics."

   21. KDKyle Dunnigan7:49

       Oh, that's nice.

   22. JRJoe Rogan7:50

       Yeah.

   23. KDKyle Dunnigan7:51

       Yeah, I- when I'm around normie- what? Normies?

   24. JRJoe Rogan7:54

       Normies.

   25. KDKyle Dunnigan7:54

       Normies.

   26. JRJoe Rogan7:55

       Yeah, normies.

   27. KDKyle Dunnigan7:56

       Like I, I started dating, um, this was my big year to date. I'm like, 'cause I've been focusing on, on like career stuff, whatever, and I'm like, "I'm gonna date in 2020."

   28. JRJoe Rogan8:04

       Whoa.

   29. KDKyle Dunnigan8:05

       This is my big year.

   30. JRJoe Rogan8:06

       And there's the COVID.
6. 10:06 – 15:21

   2020 stress, fear contagion, and social media as the worst communication channel

   1. JRJoe Rogan10:06

      I think there's gonna be a lot of good that comes out of this year. I really do.

   2. KDKyle Dunnigan10:09

      Oh, this... I like talking about positive stuff. Like what are you thinking is not gonna be-

   3. JRJoe Rogan10:13

      (sighs) Well, I think people are realizing that society and civilization hangs on by a thread in some cases. And, you know, when a series of events can happen, it could derail our life radically, and I don't think people were really aware that that was possible before. I think there's a lot of things going on. There's a lot of competing mindsets and can- com- competing ideologies, and there's a lot of anger-

   4. KDKyle Dunnigan10:37

      Mm-hmm.

   5. JRJoe Rogan10:37

      ... going on in the world right now. And then there's this fucking fear that comes with a pandemic. Everything, like pandemics ramp up everything, like this is how you have to think about it. We're thinking about it as just a pandemic, but it's also a f- there's a mind disease, like a fear disease that's sweeping through the land too.

   6. KDKyle Dunnigan10:54

      Right.

   7. JRJoe Rogan10:55

      And I, I feel like it's like, like you're- y- your- your resources are being used up in so many different directions that it's like you're a little overrun. It's one of the reasons why people are reacting so violently to things lately. There's- everything is just ramped up, and I feel like there's- there's like a certain level of other things that you can tolerate in your life. When you have so many things compounding and piling on top of each other... It's like the reason why they say that people get road rage is because it's not just you're in a car and someone does something stupid, but your se- your senses are heightened because you know you're going 60 miles an hour, so you're very aware. It's a very different feeling.

   8. KDKyle Dunnigan11:37

      Right.

   9. JRJoe Rogan11:37

      I didn't even consider that-

   10. KDKyle Dunnigan11:38

       Yeah.

   11. JRJoe Rogan11:38

       ... when I thought- when I first heard about... I thought road rage was just people being a pussy.

   12. KDKyle Dunnigan11:41

       Yeah.

   13. JRJoe Rogan11:41

       Like you're being mean while you're locked in this little box-

   14. KDKyle Dunnigan11:44

       Mm-hmm.

   15. JRJoe Rogan11:44

       ... 'cause you know you're, you can't- nobody can say anything to you.

   16. KDKyle Dunnigan11:46

       Yeah.

   17. JRJoe Rogan11:47

       But, and it's not just that, it's fear, like 'cause you're fucking driving fast and it's like if everybody fucks up, if someone's texting-

   18. KDKyle Dunnigan11:54

       You could die.

   19. JRJoe Rogan11:54

       ... and there's no one in your lane-

   20. KDKyle Dunnigan11:55

       Yeah.

   21. JRJoe Rogan11:55

       ... you could die. So because of that, because we have this in our head, it causes us to be like extra ramped up. And I think that's how we are right now with everything, because of COVID, even if you don't have COVID, even if you're not worried about COVID, what it's done is it's made everybody ramp up. So everybody's almost got road rage. So like everybody-

   22. KDKyle Dunnigan12:13

       Yeah.

   23. JRJoe Rogan12:13

       ... is like a little bit more stressed out than they've ever been before, a little bit more ramped up, and everything gets exaggerated and everything gets blown out.

   24. KDKyle Dunnigan12:19

       Yeah.

   25. JRJoe Rogan12:19

       And there's so many more instances...... of scary things that you're being, seeing in the news and so few instances of really nice things.

   26. KDKyle Dunnigan12:28

       Yeah.

   27. JRJoe Rogan12:29

       And it's like, "Fuck-"

   28. KDKyle Dunnigan12:30

       What a-

   29. JRJoe Rogan12:30

       ... "What a weird combination of things to, to try to manage."

   30. KDKyle Dunnigan12:33

       Yeah. I, uh, I've never raged before in my life, like screamed and raged. And then when this thing happened I, I, it was ... It took me where I, I had a few times where I raged.
7. 15:21 – 20:36

   Africa dust headlines, climate anxiety, and existential risk (asteroids, Yellowstone, tectonics)

   1. JRJoe Rogan15:21

      90-something-to-one. There's a new one. There's a cloud of dust that's coming from Africa across the fucking ocean and it's gonna wipe us out.

   2. KDKyle Dunnigan15:28

      Is that right? (slaps leg)

   3. JRJoe Rogan15:28

      (laughs)

   4. KDKyle Dunnigan15:28

      Really? (laughs) This year is like the devil scripted this entire year.

   5. JRJoe Rogan15:32

      Bro, we got-

   6. KDKyle Dunnigan15:32

      What does it ... What does this do?

   7. JRJoe Rogan15:34

      ... African dust. I don't know, man. I didn't know dust could fly that far, all the way across the ocean. Isn't that crazy?

   8. KDKyle Dunnigan15:40

      (sighs) Where is it right now? Like, I ... Now this is something I gotta ... I need to go-

   9. JRJoe Rogan15:43

      We're at DEFCON 5 or some shit.

   10. KDKyle Dunnigan15:45

       What happens? It's ... So the dust storm-

   11. JRJoe Rogan15:47

       (laughs)

   12. KDKyle Dunnigan15:47

       ... comes-

   13. JRJoe Rogan15:47

       I don't know. I just read it. I was like, "Oh, my God." And they said Yellowstone's ready to blow.

   14. KDKyle Dunnigan15:52

       That scares me the most.

   15. JRJoe Rogan15:53

       The most, the most. We're pretending. We're over here pretending that this, this is all permanent.

   16. JVJamie Vernon15:59

       It happens a few times a year.

   17. JRJoe Rogan16:00

       (gasps) Does it really?

   18. JVJamie Vernon16:02

       It's fairly common.

   19. KDKyle Dunnigan16:03

       But what does it-

   20. JRJoe Rogan16:03

       Oh.

   21. KDKyle Dunnigan16:03

       What does it do? This dust-

   22. JRJoe Rogan16:04

       Oh, so is this blown out of proportion for the news?

   23. JVJamie Vernon16:06

       I think just the headline sounds crazy.

   24. JRJoe Rogan16:08

       Yeah, the-

   25. KDKyle Dunnigan16:08

       Yeah.

   26. JVJamie Vernon16:08

       The headline sounds terrible. The one I found says it's a silver lining, so it's actually kinda maybe a good thing. It says, uh-

   27. JRJoe Rogan16:13

       Oh.

   28. JVJamie Vernon16:13

       ... "Signifies a dry, very dry layer in the atmosphere," and hurricanes don't like dry air.

   29. KDKyle Dunnigan16:19

       Oh.

   30. JVJamie Vernon16:19

       So it might protect against hurricanes.
8. 20:36 – 25:55

   Mayan calendar doom talk and a deep dive into human sacrifice and religion’s darker stories

   1. JVJamie Vernon20:36

      Oh, yeah. They said the Mayan calendar is supposed to technically end next week.

   2. JRJoe Rogan20:39

      Oh, Jesus Christ!

   3. KDKyle Dunnigan20:40

      That thing always comes up though-

   4. JVJamie Vernon20:42

      Yeah.

   5. KDKyle Dunnigan20:42

      ... and it's never anything. You know what shocks me is when you have a, the leader of a cult, and they have doomsday.

   6. JRJoe Rogan20:46

      Yeah.

   7. KDKyle Dunnigan20:46

      And they have the date and the time, and they all go outside and they sing, and it doesn't happen. And then that guy convinces them to stay, and he goes, "No, it's a different day."

   8. JRJoe Rogan20:55

      Yes.

   9. KDKyle Dunnigan20:55

      And they all just-

   10. JRJoe Rogan20:56

       (laughs) There was a, uh, a guy who was taking out billboards. There was a billboard in Woodland Hills on Ventura Boulevard. And it had this fucking billboard, and he had a bunch of them all over the place. But he had this billboard that showed the very day the Earth was gonna end. Like, it was like it had a date on it.

   11. KDKyle Dunnigan21:14

       Do you remember it?

   12. JRJoe Rogan21:15

       I don't r-... I wanna say it was, like, somewhere around April or May.

   13. KDKyle Dunnigan21:19

       Was it today? Oh, not sure my head.

   14. JRJoe Rogan21:19

       "Scientists Says Reading Mayan Calendar Predicts End of the World This Week."

   15. JVJamie Vernon21:24

       The 21st is what they said.

   16. JRJoe Rogan21:25

       Oh, okay. Whatever. That's horseshit.

   17. KDKyle Dunnigan21:27

       Actually, this year, I'm a-

   18. JRJoe Rogan21:27

       That's the New York Post, bro.

   19. KDKyle Dunnigan21:27

       ... I'm listening a little bit. The thing is-

   20. JRJoe Rogan21:29

       They're trolling you. The Post is trolling you, son.

   21. KDKyle Dunnigan21:32

       I like that we listen to people who just, like, put leeches on people to hear from them, and-

   22. JVJamie Vernon21:36

       Yeah, according to The Sun, actually. Even better.

   23. KDKyle Dunnigan21:38

       Oh, The Sun.

   24. JRJoe Rogan21:38

       You know what, man? They, they did have a weird culture. The Mayans had a weird culture. It was r-... It's real-

   25. KDKyle Dunnigan21:45

       I don't know much about it. I know the temple, and they, they... Didn't they kill virgins?

   26. JRJoe Rogan21:50

       I don't think they killed v-... Well, who knows? But-

   27. KDKyle Dunnigan21:52

       This is great. I don't know about this topic.

   28. JRJoe Rogan21:53

       I don't know if they really know what exact people they killed. They killed a lot of people. But what's really interesting is how beautiful their structures were. Like, these amazing structures.

   29. KDKyle Dunnigan22:04

       I thought one of... Their pyramid, like those big steps.

   30. JRJoe Rogan22:06

       Yeah, yeah.
9. 25:55 – 33:56

   Real bear encounters: Kyle’s Yosemite tent story and the ‘Grizzly Man’ cautionary tale

   1. KDKyle Dunnigan25:55

      I got a bear story.

   2. JRJoe Rogan25:56

      It seemed, when I heard it before, God, maybe I'm wrong, but it f- it felt like it was, um, in the ancient way of saying it, and that was what Metzger explained to me. See if there's finally a, another, if there's another, there's another way of putting the words together that Metzger was saying, you know, they were gonna kill him.

   3. KDKyle Dunnigan26:13

      This is a version that has, like, tons of translations of it.

   4. JRJoe Rogan26:15

      Holy shit.

   5. KDKyle Dunnigan26:16

      So, there's lots of versions. (laughs)

   6. JRJoe Rogan26:19

      Un- unless they were trying to kill the guy, maybe we're looking at it wrong and they were actually trying to kill the guy, and I think that's one of the things that Metzger was trying to say, like they were threatening violence to the guy.

   7. KDKyle Dunnigan26:30

      He sent a bear.

   8. JRJoe Rogan26:31

      Sent, I think two bears. Doesn't it say two bears?

   9. KDKyle Dunnigan26:33

      Yeah. It says two female bears, two she-bears.

   10. JRJoe Rogan26:36

       Dude.

   11. KDKyle Dunnigan26:37

       I was in a-

   12. JRJoe Rogan26:38

       Can you imagine, called a dude a baldy and he siccs bears on you?

   13. KDKyle Dunnigan26:41

       (sighs) Don't fuck with him again.

   14. JRJoe Rogan26:43

       That's rude.

   15. KDKyle Dunnigan26:44

       I was in a tent in the woods. I was at Yosemite, and I was with this girl, you know, I was dating. And, uh, before we packed up, the ranger guy was like, "Hey, don't have any food anywhere tied up in a tree. There's bears, they're coming out of their hibernation and they're hungry. Don't have a gum in your pocket." You know, it really scared us. We were with a little group and we were kind of laughing that night, like, "Whatever, like, bear." And just tried to scare everybody. And then-

   16. JRJoe Rogan27:08

       It's a horror movie (laughs) .

   17. KDKyle Dunnigan27:09

       It is. Yeah. People about to get murdered are always giggling about something.

   18. JRJoe Rogan27:13

       Yeah.

   19. KDKyle Dunnigan27:14

       So we're in the tent and about an hour into sleep, I had brought a knife in my, you know, tent, this fist-sized snout pushes into the tent, puffs her head, like her head went poof. Then it comes over to my head, puffs my head.

   20. JRJoe Rogan27:29

       Oh my God.

   21. KDKyle Dunnigan27:30

       And I had the thought, "Oh, this is what terror feels like." 'Cause I had never felt the emotion before. I'd never actually been terrified 'til that moment. And we just held each other's hands, like really hard, and just, you did everything not to breathe for two hours, just making the smallest amount of air come in your body.

   22. JRJoe Rogan27:47

       I have a theory about that. I think bears are figuring out that there's meat in those bags.

   23. KDKyle Dunnigan27:53

       Mm.

   24. JRJoe Rogan27:54

       I think they've figured out that there's little-

   25. KDKyle Dunnigan27:56

       Meat bags.

   26. JRJoe Rogan27:57

       ... just like, just like they find, like when bears go to garbage cans.

   27. KDKyle Dunnigan28:01

       Yeah.

   28. JRJoe Rogan28:01

       You can't, you can't scare them off. They're always gonna keep coming back to that garbage can. Once they go to the garbage can, they become a problem and they have to kidnap them and move them to some sanctuary somewhere, otherwise-

   29. KDKyle Dunnigan28:10

       Oh.

   30. JRJoe Rogan28:10

       ... they'd have to euthanize them.
10. 33:56 – 44:12

    Tesla fandom, self-driving edge cases, and the ‘learn to code’ censorship meme

    1. KDKyle Dunnigan33:56

       I wanna get that Cybertruck.

    2. JRJoe Rogan33:57

       Oh, yeah.

    3. KDKyle Dunnigan33:57

       Because that has a great camping situation.

    4. JRJoe Rogan34:00

       Plus you look like you're in the future.

    5. KDKyle Dunnigan34:02

       Yeah.

    6. JRJoe Rogan34:02

       Fucking camping in that thing.

    7. KDKyle Dunnigan34:03

       I fucking...

    8. JRJoe Rogan34:04

       That's some Blade Runner shit.

    9. KDKyle Dunnigan34:06

       I love my car, like, uh, in a way that I've never liked something I've bought before.

    10. JRJoe Rogan34:11

        It feels like, um, it's another thing, right? Like it's way better than a car.

    11. KDKyle Dunnigan34:16

        It is. And it's learning and getting better, and it feels like a, a child learning, growing up, and helping you more.

    12. JRJoe Rogan34:22

        Yeah, you keep getting these new updates.

    13. KDKyle Dunnigan34:24

        Yeah.

    14. JRJoe Rogan34:25

        And it-

    15. KDKyle Dunnigan34:25

        It's like Christmas.

    16. JRJoe Rogan34:26

        I- it drives itself and go doo-doo. Just drives itself.

    17. KDKyle Dunnigan34:29

        It's amazing, 'cause I bought mine in 2018, and how it's gotten so much better. I mean, they're solving vision, which I, I think should be bigger news than what it is. And the way they, they're doing it is brilliant. They have people paid them money for them to send out all these fleets and they get all the data.

    18. JRJoe Rogan34:48

        Yeah.

    19. KDKyle Dunnigan34:48

        Which is what they need, tons and tons of data. And it's, they see stoplights and stop signs now. I kinda watched a video on how they, they did this, and it's, they send out to the fleet like, "Hey, send us all your stop signs." And they all come back to this one place and it learns... And now, I got a stop sign in, near my house, and just a little piece is showing. It's covered by bushes and the, but the car recognizes it.

    20. JRJoe Rogan35:12

        Dude, the, the, just, and that's his side job.

    21. KDKyle Dunnigan35:16

        That-

    22. JRJoe Rogan35:17

        That's his side job.

    23. KDKyle Dunnigan35:18

        He is the coolest person ever-

    24. JRJoe Rogan35:21

        (laughs) Ever.

    25. KDKyle Dunnigan35:21

        ... on paper.

    26. JRJoe Rogan35:22

        On paper.

    27. KDKyle Dunnigan35:22

        I mean, in person, you know, he's, uh, yeah.

    28. JRJoe Rogan35:26

        He n- I think Nikola Tesla is probably the most important inventor of all time. But (smacks lips) Nikola Tesla, I don't think you would think he's cool. You know? He was just a genius and he, he was l- he was in love with a pigeon. Like, he was really crazy.

    29. KDKyle Dunnigan35:40

        Yeah, he got really crazy.

    30. JRJoe Rogan35:41

        He got ... really crazy guy. But brilliant, like had ideas. Elon is like, cool, you can hang out with him.
11. 44:12 – 51:34

    Celeb activism backlash, white guilt, and the pendulum swings of cultural change

    1. KDKyle Dunnigan44:12

       Well, I feel, well, like, like Kristen Bell, people like the, who was in the video-

    2. JRJoe Rogan44:16

       Yeah.

    3. KDKyle Dunnigan44:16

       ... that it's like they really are, um, putting themselves out there and getting really crushed. And if I were them, I mean, after the first text I did that I got blowback, I would, I would be out.

    4. JRJoe Rogan44:28

       Yeah. Uh, I think that world, the world of actors and actresses, (clears throat) I think it's very difficult for them to gauge how other people view someone who's really famous who does something like that. Like, you, you have to understand, they, I don't think they thought about the skepticism. I don't think they thought about people looking at it very cynically.

    5. KDKyle Dunnigan44:57

       Yeah.

    6. JRJoe Rogan44:57

       I don't think they considered that.

    7. KDKyle Dunnigan44:58

       No.

    8. JRJoe Rogan44:59

       I think they only thought, like, they probably talked to their friends, like, "Uh, w- we're gonna make a difference. We're gonna make a difference with this video."

    9. KDKyle Dunnigan45:05

       Oh. Uh-huh. Yeah.

    10. JRJoe Rogan45:05

        Their friend's like, "You're amazing. You're so powerful."

    11. KDKyle Dunnigan45:08

        Mm-hmm.

    12. JRJoe Rogan45:08

        "If anyone can make a difference, it's you, girl." And then-

    13. KDKyle Dunnigan45:10

        You have the platform. Use it.

    14. JRJoe Rogan45:11

        ... boom. Next thing you know, they're, they're making this video and they're calling their friends. Just like the one with Gal Gadot, same thing.

    15. KDKyle Dunnigan45:16

        Oh.

    16. JRJoe Rogan45:16

        You call your friends. "We got this. We got this. We're gonna cure this."

    17. KDKyle Dunnigan45:19

        (laughs)

    18. JRJoe Rogan45:19

        People are fucking dropping like flies in Italy. (laughs) They're just falling off balconies and shit.

    19. KDKyle Dunnigan45:24

        Ugh.

    20. JRJoe Rogan45:25

        (singing) Imagine there's no heaven.

    21. KDKyle Dunnigan45:27

        That one.

    22. JRJoe Rogan45:27

        Like... (laughs)

    23. KDKyle Dunnigan45:28

        Oh, that... I also feel bad in a way 'cause if someone, your friend asks you to do something, it, I- it's hard to say no sometimes.

    24. JRJoe Rogan45:35

        You gotta say no. You gotta say no.

    25. KDKyle Dunnigan45:36

        You gotta say no.

    26. JRJoe Rogan45:36

        You gotta tell them.

    27. KDKyle Dunnigan45:36

        I gotta say no.

    28. JRJoe Rogan45:36

        This is how I would make fun of you.

    29. KDKyle Dunnigan45:39

        Yeah.

    30. JRJoe Rogan45:39

        You gotta realize what you're doing is crazy. I understand that the sentiment-
12. 51:34 – 1:17:28

    Cancel culture timelines, blackface history, and why context vs. intent is so hard

    1. JRJoe Rogan51:34

       And the goalposts keep getting moved, like things that you could say, like, readily. One of the things I've been doing is I've been watching a lot of Adam Sandler movies.

    2. KDKyle Dunnigan51:41

       Yeah.

    3. JRJoe Rogan51:41

       (smacks lips) Oh.

    4. KDKyle Dunnigan51:41

       It's funny.

    5. JRJoe Rogan51:42

       Dur- oh my God, man. J- some of them are so funny, like-

    6. KDKyle Dunnigan51:45

       Yeah.

    7. JRJoe Rogan51:46

       ... Zohan is one of the funniest fucking movies ever.

    8. KDKyle Dunnigan51:48

       Yeah. (laughs)

    9. JRJoe Rogan51:48

       But, like, wildly inappropriate and just, just even then, like-

    10. KDKyle Dunnigan51:53

        Yeah.

    11. JRJoe Rogan51:53

        ... the things that you can get away with saying then, you can't do now.

    12. KDKyle Dunnigan51:56

        Nah.

    13. JRJoe Rogan51:56

        You know?

    14. KDKyle Dunnigan51:57

        Nah.

    15. JRJoe Rogan51:57

        And like when Rob Schneider in Adam Sandler's movies, he would play a bunch of different races, all kinds of ... He played Asian guys, he played-

    16. KDKyle Dunnigan52:04

        Yeah.

    17. JRJoe Rogan52:04

        (laughs) He played, he played all kinds of weird dudes. You can't-

    18. KDKyle Dunnigan52:07

        Do you think-

    19. JRJoe Rogan52:07

        You barely can do that today.

    20. KDKyle Dunnigan52:09

        Do you think ever again will it swing back where people go like, "Yeah, you can do other..."

    21. JRJoe Rogan52:13

        Blackface is fine.

    22. KDKyle Dunnigan52:14

        Blackface will never be fine.

    23. JRJoe Rogan52:16

        (laughs) "Never be fine." But he apparently was.

    24. KDKyle Dunnigan52:18

        It was not ... I, I mean- '80s, that's when I-

    25. JRJoe Rogan52:21

        Which is-

    26. KDKyle Dunnigan52:21

        ... it was, like, not-

    27. JRJoe Rogan52:22

        Not that big a deal.

    28. KDKyle Dunnigan52:23

        You didn't think, like, "Oh my God, you're ..."

    29. JRJoe Rogan52:25

        Yeah.

    30. KDKyle Dunnigan52:26

        Oh.

Episode duration: 3:22:25