Joe Rogan Experience #1495 - Kyle Dunnigan

1. 0:01 – 0:53

   Reefer Madness jokes and the Hearst family rabbit hole

   1. JRJoe Rogan0:01

      Kyle Dunnigan smoking marijuana. This is dangerous.

   2. KDKyle Dunnigan0:04

      Is it?

   3. JRJoe Rogan0:04

      You're gonna go crazy.

   4. KDKyle Dunnigan0:05

      You think?

   5. JRJoe Rogan0:05

      Yes. Don't you watch those movies?

   6. KDKyle Dunnigan0:08

      Oh, I forgot about that. Yeah, pot drugs will, uh, make you crazy.

   7. JRJoe Rogan0:11

      They'll make you nuts.

   8. KDKyle Dunnigan0:12

      Are you talking about those old videos, the old-timey black and white where they literally had-

   9. JRJoe Rogan0:15

      Reefer Madness.

   10. KDKyle Dunnigan0:16

       Yeah.

   11. JRJoe Rogan0:17

       Yeah. Do you know where those are, wh- what those were funded by?

   12. KDKyle Dunnigan0:20

       Who?

   13. JRJoe Rogan0:21

       William Randolph Hearst.

   14. KDKyle Dunnigan0:23

       Is that right?

   15. JRJoe Rogan0:23

       Yeah, that piece of shit.

   16. KDKyle Dunnigan0:25

       He was a piece of shit, right?

   17. JRJoe Rogan0:26

       Grow spud. Yeah.

   18. KDKyle Dunnigan0:27

       And his daughter brought a gun into a bank.

   19. JRJoe Rogan0:30

       Wow. Why?

   20. KDKyle Dunnigan0:31

       Right?

   21. JRJoe Rogan0:31

       Maybe she wanted to protect her money. She's rich as fuck. It's not-

   22. KDKyle Dunnigan0:33

       Is that-

   23. JRJoe Rogan0:33

       ... like she's robbing the place.

   24. KDKyle Dunnigan0:35

       Do I have the wrong person?

   25. JRJoe Rogan0:35

       Patty Hearst.

   26. KDKyle Dunnigan0:36

       Patty Hearst. Got it.

   27. JRJoe Rogan0:36

       That's right. Yeah.

   28. KDKyle Dunnigan0:37

       Okay, yeah.

   29. JRJoe Rogan0:37

       Must be related, right?

   30. KDKyle Dunnigan0:38

       Yeah.
2. 0:53 – 2:09

   Hearst Castle, invasive wild pigs, and unintended animal introductions

   1. JRJoe Rogan0:53

      Well, William Randolph Hearst is also the reason why there's wild pigs in California.

   2. KDKyle Dunnigan0:58

      How's, why's that?

   3. JRJoe Rogan0:59

      Because that asshole brought them to his ranch. He wanted to have a menagerie. I think that's the correct term, menagerie of animals.

   4. KDKyle Dunnigan1:05

      Oh.

   5. JRJoe Rogan1:06

      He's a nutty person. You can visit Hearst Castle. It's this crazy place.

   6. KDKyle Dunnigan1:09

      Yeah.

   7. JRJoe Rogan1:10

      Yeah.

   8. KDKyle Dunnigan1:10

      I wanna go there.

   9. JRJoe Rogan1:11

      So Northern California has kind of an infestation of wild pigs, and it's because, directly because of William Randolph Hearst.

   10. KDKyle Dunnigan1:18

       Really?

   11. JRJoe Rogan1:18

       The pigs that left his compound just started fucking and running through the woods. Like, there it is. That's the, that's the place.

   12. KDKyle Dunnigan1:24

       I feel like you could solve that with a bow and arrow.

   13. JRJoe Rogan1:27

       It's hard. No, it's very-

   14. KDKyle Dunnigan1:27

       And call some of your friends.

   15. JRJoe Rogan1:28

       ... hard to solve.

   16. KDKyle Dunnigan1:29

       Hmm.

   17. JRJoe Rogan1:29

       W- well, wild pigs are the hardest, uh, animal to solve in terms of, like, uh, invasive species 'cause they fuck like crazy and they breed, like, three times a year.

   18. KDKyle Dunnigan1:38

       Oh.

   19. JRJoe Rogan1:38

       So one pig can have, like, three litters in a year.

   20. KDKyle Dunnigan1:42

       So, yeah, pigs love to fuck.

   21. JRJoe Rogan1:43

       They love it.

   22. KDKyle Dunnigan1:44

       I've always said that.

   23. JRJoe Rogan1:44

       They're dirty pigs.

   24. KDKyle Dunnigan1:45

       There's something in Hawaii where they had some infestation and they brought in this other animal to get it, but they brought the wrong animal and then that became the infestation. Again, something I don't have enough information about.

   25. JRJoe Rogan1:55

       Yeah, I think that's a mis- I think you're incorrect about that. Because for something that could kill pigs, it would have to be a big predator, like a cat.

   26. KDKyle Dunnigan2:02

       Oh, no, this wasn't pigs. This was, like, a different infestation in Hawaii.

   27. JRJoe Rogan2:06

       Well, okay.

   28. KDKyle Dunnigan2:07

       It was, um, it was slightly, slightly related to your story.

3. 2:09 – 3:04

   Australia’s feral cats and the absurdity of hunting ‘house cats’

   1. JRJoe Rogan2:09

      Slightly. Well, I know they did that in Australia. Australia fucked themselves up hardcore. They brought in animals to kill animals and those animals wound up-

   2. KDKyle Dunnigan2:18

      Yeah.

   3. JRJoe Rogan2:18

      ... running amok and killing everything.

   4. KDKyle Dunnigan2:19

      That's what always seems to happen.

   5. JRJoe Rogan2:20

      Yeah. They brought in cats, like house cats. They have an infestation of wild house cats in Australia.

   6. KDKyle Dunnigan2:26

      Well, that's kinda cute though. I mean, it's better than-

   7. JRJoe Rogan2:28

      But it's sick because-

   8. KDKyle Dunnigan2:30

      Yeah.

   9. JRJoe Rogan2:30

      ... bowhunters are, like, paid to hunt cats. Like, people are paid bounties for house cats. So in Australian hunting magazines, you'll see guys holding up a house cat.

   10. KDKyle Dunnigan2:39

       What do you get per cat?

   11. JRJoe Rogan2:40

       I don't think you get a lot. (laughs) I can't think-

   12. KDKyle Dunnigan2:43

       You can't live off of your cat kills?

   13. JRJoe Rogan2:45

       I think it's, like, yeah, I don't think, it's not like beaver pelts or anything like that where it's really valuable.

   14. KDKyle Dunnigan2:49

       How high is this, is this gonna make us?

   15. JRJoe Rogan2:51

       Super high.

   16. KDKyle Dunnigan2:51

       I gotta stop. Really?

   17. JRJoe Rogan2:51

       We're already gone. We're already gone. Fuck.

   18. KDKyle Dunnigan2:53

       Really?

   19. JRJoe Rogan2:53

       I've hit it four times, man.

   20. KDKyle Dunnigan2:55

       I'm already not starting off with a lot of IQ points. I can't-

   21. JRJoe Rogan2:58

       (laughs)

   22. KDKyle Dunnigan2:58

       ... come down further.

   23. JRJoe Rogan2:59

       We don't need IQ points. We're spitting facts, son.

   24. KDKyle Dunnigan3:01

       Yeah.

   25. JRJoe Rogan3:02

       Yeah.

   26. KDKyle Dunnigan3:02

       About wild animals.

   27. JRJoe Rogan3:03

       Fucking wild cats.

4. 3:04 – 4:35

   Mustard weed, lawns, and ‘plant racism’ (why humans demand uniform nature)

   1. KDKyle Dunnigan3:04

      You're the one who told me about the, uh, the mustard weed. And once you said that-

   2. JRJoe Rogan3:08

      Oh, yeah.

   3. KDKyle Dunnigan3:08

      ... I can't not see mustard weed.

   4. JRJoe Rogan3:10

      Isn't that crazy? I think it came from Russia. That crazy, beautiful yellow weed that covers the hills in California. It's really pretty.

   5. KDKyle Dunnigan3:17

      I, you know-

   6. JRJoe Rogan3:17

      It looks awesome.

   7. KDKyle Dunnigan3:18

      ... I thought it was pretty 'til you told me it was a weed. Now I think it looks gross.

   8. JRJoe Rogan3:21

      Isn't that weird? You call one plant one thing, another plant... It's a fucking plant. You know, like, we're, we're, we're really racist with plants.

   9. KDKyle Dunnigan3:28

      We are. We're plantists.

   10. JRJoe Rogan3:29

       You know, we're plantists.

   11. KDKyle Dunnigan3:31

       Yeah.

   12. JRJoe Rogan3:31

       So if you see, like, a beautiful green grass but it's got some weird, like, daisies popping up, people get mad at those daisies.

   13. KDKyle Dunnigan3:37

       They're nice.

   14. JRJoe Rogan3:37

       "Fucking daisies ruining my grass." They'll go pluck 'em.

   15. KDKyle Dunnigan3:40

       Yeah.

   16. JRJoe Rogan3:40

       Rip 'em out of their life.

   17. KDKyle Dunnigan3:41

       Yeah.

   18. JRJoe Rogan3:41

       "Fuck you. You're not what I want."

   19. KDKyle Dunnigan3:43

       Yeah, they're very, I have a bunch-

   20. JRJoe Rogan3:45

       Uniform.

   21. KDKyle Dunnigan3:45

       What's that?

   22. JRJoe Rogan3:46

       They want uniform. "Just mow the grass already."

   23. KDKyle Dunnigan3:48

       Yeah, right, right, right. Yeah.

   24. JRJoe Rogan3:48

       Isn't that a weird thing that we do our law- lawn is a weird thing.

   25. KDKyle Dunnigan3:51

       How so?

   26. JRJoe Rogan3:52

       We're controlling nature on, on a large scale in our own community, our own little yard.

   27. KDKyle Dunnigan3:58

       Yeah.

   28. JRJoe Rogan3:58

       We have a little spot.

   29. KDKyle Dunnigan3:59

       Yeah.

   30. JRJoe Rogan3:59

       And we lock it down. We want that grass nice.
5. 4:35 – 7:26

   Lumberjacks, ‘lumberjills,’ and reality-show logic

   1. KDKyle Dunnigan4:35

      You ever get, you ever go weeding?

   2. JRJoe Rogan4:37

      (laughs)

   3. KDKyle Dunnigan4:37

      Yeah, fuck trees.

   4. JRJoe Rogan4:39

      People chop trees down. "Fuck off, tree."

   5. KDKyle Dunnigan4:41

      Yeah.

   6. JRJoe Rogan4:41

      "I don't want you there."

   7. KDKyle Dunnigan4:43

      Is that the manliest job, the lumberjack?

   8. JRJoe Rogan4:45

      Oh, for sure. How many chick lumberjacks are there?

   9. KDKyle Dunnigan4:49

      Three.

   10. JRJoe Rogan4:49

       Those gotta be the toughest women on the planet, lumberjack chicks. They're like, it's like MM- female MMA fighters, like Amanda Nunes and then lumberjack chicks. (laughs)

   11. KDKyle Dunnigan4:57

       After the, after the chainsaw though, it's a little bit like...

   12. JRJoe Rogan5:01

       It's still, it's dangerous as fuck.

   13. KDKyle Dunnigan5:03

       Yeah.

   14. JRJoe Rogan5:03

       You gotta do it right. Things go wrong all the time. People get hit with trees. Yeah.

   15. KDKyle Dunnigan5:07

       We've talked about everything I don't know anything about so far.

   16. JRJoe Rogan5:09

       Me too. I don't know what I'm talking about. Maybe people never get hit by trees. I'm pretty sure they do though.

   17. KDKyle Dunnigan5:13

       (laughs) I think it's actually pretty safe.

   18. JRJoe Rogan5:15

       (laughs) It turns out lumberjacks never die. They-

   19. KDKyle Dunnigan5:17

       Yeah.

   20. JRJoe Rogan5:17

       ... they live older than everybody. No, I think, I think they die all the time. I think, well, I just, they're... If you see a fucking tree, like a big ass oak tree, my God, that's a lot of weight.

   21. KDKyle Dunnigan5:28

       Yeah.

   22. JRJoe Rogan5:28

       That thing could crush you so easy.

   23. KDKyle Dunnigan5:30

       Oh, yeah.

   24. JRJoe Rogan5:30

       If you fuck up and it hits, takes a bounce and it hits somebody or, I mean, I don't know how they chop trees down.

   25. KDKyle Dunnigan5:35

       Yeah.

   26. JRJoe Rogan5:35

       But you're just dealing with so much weight.

   27. KDKyle Dunnigan5:37

       Yeah, yeah.

   28. JRJoe Rogan5:38

       I could imagine, like, if someone fuck- Like, if you don't know what you're doing, you're an asshole and you just bought a plot of land. "I'm gonna be a farmer." And you start-

   29. KDKyle Dunnigan5:43

       Yeah. (laughs)

   30. JRJoe Rogan5:44

       ... fucking chopping down trees by yourself-
6. 7:26 – 10:06

   Whiskey, comedy-store isolation, and the pain of talking to ‘normies’

   1. KDKyle Dunnigan7:26

      Awesome. And don't you have like this, like whiskey you give everybody?

   2. JRJoe Rogan7:29

      Do you want some whiskey?

   3. KDKyle Dunnigan7:30

      Is this too much?

   4. JRJoe Rogan7:31

      No.

   5. KDKyle Dunnigan7:31

      Sure.

   6. JRJoe Rogan7:31

      No. Come on, pal.

   7. KDKyle Dunnigan7:32

      A little bit. A little bit.

   8. JRJoe Rogan7:32

      Haven't seen you in forever, man.

   9. KDKyle Dunnigan7:34

      I know. I know.

   10. JRJoe Rogan7:34

       With the comedy store embargo.

   11. KDKyle Dunnigan7:36

       I know.

   12. JRJoe Rogan7:36

       It's just beautiful to be in the room with you.

   13. KDKyle Dunnigan7:37

       I know. It actually is really nice to-

   14. JRJoe Rogan7:39

       It's fun.

   15. KDKyle Dunnigan7:39

       ... be with humans.

   16. JRJoe Rogan7:40

       Oh, it's so nice to be with comics.

   17. KDKyle Dunnigan7:43

       (sighs) Yeah.

   18. JRJoe Rogan7:43

       Like Doug Stanhope-

   19. KDKyle Dunnigan7:44

       I miss that.

   20. JRJoe Rogan7:44

       ... said this best, and I quote him all the time, but it really is a great quote. He said, "I could quit comedy, but I couldn't quit comics."

   21. KDKyle Dunnigan7:49

       Oh, that's nice.

   22. JRJoe Rogan7:50

       Yeah.

   23. KDKyle Dunnigan7:51

       Yeah, I- when I'm around normie- what? Normies?

   24. JRJoe Rogan7:54

       Normies.

   25. KDKyle Dunnigan7:54

       Normies.

   26. JRJoe Rogan7:55

       Yeah, normies.

   27. KDKyle Dunnigan7:56

       Like I, I started dating, um, this was my big year to date. I'm like, 'cause I've been focusing on, on like career stuff, whatever, and I'm like, "I'm gonna date in 2020."

   28. JRJoe Rogan8:04

       Whoa.

   29. KDKyle Dunnigan8:05

       This is my big year.

   30. JRJoe Rogan8:06

       And there's the COVID.
7. 10:06 – 15:21

   2020 anxiety: fear contagion, road rage, and social media as bad communication

   1. JRJoe Rogan10:06

      I think there's gonna be a lot of good that comes out of this year. I really do.

   2. KDKyle Dunnigan10:09

      Oh, this... I like talking about positive stuff. Like what are you thinking is not gonna be-

   3. JRJoe Rogan10:13

      (sighs) Well, I think people are realizing that society and civilization hangs on by a thread in some cases. And, you know, when a series of events can happen, it could derail our life radically, and I don't think people were really aware that that was possible before. I think there's a lot of things going on. There's a lot of competing mindsets and can- com- competing ideologies, and there's a lot of anger-

   4. KDKyle Dunnigan10:37

      Mm-hmm.

   5. JRJoe Rogan10:37

      ... going on in the world right now. And then there's this fucking fear that comes with a pandemic. Everything, like pandemics ramp up everything, like this is how you have to think about it. We're thinking about it as just a pandemic, but it's also a f- there's a mind disease, like a fear disease that's sweeping through the land too.

   6. KDKyle Dunnigan10:54

      Right.

   7. JRJoe Rogan10:55

      And I, I feel like it's like, like you're- y- your- your resources are being used up in so many different directions that it's like you're a little overrun. It's one of the reasons why people are reacting so violently to things lately. There's- everything is just ramped up, and I feel like there's- there's like a certain level of other things that you can tolerate in your life. When you have so many things compounding and piling on top of each other... It's like the reason why they say that people get road rage is because it's not just you're in a car and someone does something stupid, but your se- your senses are heightened because you know you're going 60 miles an hour, so you're very aware. It's a very different feeling.

   8. KDKyle Dunnigan11:37

      Right.

   9. JRJoe Rogan11:37

      I didn't even consider that-

   10. KDKyle Dunnigan11:38

       Yeah.

   11. JRJoe Rogan11:38

       ... when I thought- when I first heard about... I thought road rage was just people being a pussy.

   12. KDKyle Dunnigan11:41

       Yeah.

   13. JRJoe Rogan11:41

       Like you're being mean while you're locked in this little box-

   14. KDKyle Dunnigan11:44

       Mm-hmm.

   15. JRJoe Rogan11:44

       ... 'cause you know you're, you can't- nobody can say anything to you.

   16. KDKyle Dunnigan11:46

       Yeah.

   17. JRJoe Rogan11:47

       But, and it's not just that, it's fear, like 'cause you're fucking driving fast and it's like if everybody fucks up, if someone's texting-

   18. KDKyle Dunnigan11:54

       You could die.

   19. JRJoe Rogan11:54

       ... and there's no one in your lane-

   20. KDKyle Dunnigan11:55

       Yeah.

   21. JRJoe Rogan11:55

       ... you could die. So because of that, because we have this in our head, it causes us to be like extra ramped up. And I think that's how we are right now with everything, because of COVID, even if you don't have COVID, even if you're not worried about COVID, what it's done is it's made everybody ramp up. So everybody's almost got road rage. So like everybody-

   22. KDKyle Dunnigan12:13

       Yeah.

   23. JRJoe Rogan12:13

       ... is like a little bit more stressed out than they've ever been before, a little bit more ramped up, and everything gets exaggerated and everything gets blown out.

   24. KDKyle Dunnigan12:19

       Yeah.

   25. JRJoe Rogan12:19

       And there's so many more instances...... of scary things that you're being, seeing in the news and so few instances of really nice things.

   26. KDKyle Dunnigan12:28

       Yeah.

   27. JRJoe Rogan12:29

       And it's like, "Fuck-"

   28. KDKyle Dunnigan12:30

       What a-

   29. JRJoe Rogan12:30

       ... "What a weird combination of things to, to try to manage."

   30. KDKyle Dunnigan12:33

       Yeah. I, uh, I've never raged before in my life, like screamed and raged. And then when this thing happened I, I, it was ... It took me where I, I had a few times where I raged.
8. 15:21 – 20:04

   Headline panic: African dust clouds, hurricanes, Yellowstone, and climate risk framing

   1. JRJoe Rogan15:21

      90-something-to-one. There's a new one. There's a cloud of dust that's coming from Africa across the fucking ocean and it's gonna wipe us out.

   2. KDKyle Dunnigan15:28

      Is that right? (slaps leg)

   3. JRJoe Rogan15:28

      (laughs)

   4. KDKyle Dunnigan15:28

      Really? (laughs) This year is like the devil scripted this entire year.

   5. JRJoe Rogan15:32

      Bro, we got-

   6. KDKyle Dunnigan15:32

      What does it ... What does this do?

   7. JRJoe Rogan15:34

      ... African dust. I don't know, man. I didn't know dust could fly that far, all the way across the ocean. Isn't that crazy?

   8. KDKyle Dunnigan15:40

      (sighs) Where is it right now? Like, I ... Now this is something I gotta ... I need to go-

   9. JRJoe Rogan15:43

      We're at DEFCON 5 or some shit.

   10. KDKyle Dunnigan15:45

       What happens? It's ... So the dust storm-

   11. JRJoe Rogan15:47

       (laughs)

   12. KDKyle Dunnigan15:47

       ... comes-

   13. JRJoe Rogan15:47

       I don't know. I just read it. I was like, "Oh, my God." And they said Yellowstone's ready to blow.

   14. KDKyle Dunnigan15:52

       That scares me the most.

   15. JRJoe Rogan15:53

       The most, the most. We're pretending. We're over here pretending that this, this is all permanent.

   16. JVJamie Vernon15:59

       It happens a few times a year.

   17. JRJoe Rogan16:00

       (gasps) Does it really?

   18. JVJamie Vernon16:02

       It's fairly common.

   19. KDKyle Dunnigan16:03

       But what does it-

   20. JRJoe Rogan16:03

       Oh.

   21. KDKyle Dunnigan16:03

       What does it do? This dust-

   22. JRJoe Rogan16:04

       Oh, so is this blown out of proportion for the news?

   23. JVJamie Vernon16:06

       I think just the headline sounds crazy.

   24. JRJoe Rogan16:08

       Yeah, the-

   25. KDKyle Dunnigan16:08

       Yeah.

   26. JVJamie Vernon16:08

       The headline sounds terrible. The one I found says it's a silver lining, so it's actually kinda maybe a good thing. It says, uh-

   27. JRJoe Rogan16:13

       Oh.

   28. JVJamie Vernon16:13

       ... "Signifies a dry, very dry layer in the atmosphere," and hurricanes don't like dry air.

   29. KDKyle Dunnigan16:19

       Oh.

   30. JVJamie Vernon16:19

       So it might protect against hurricanes.
9. 20:04 – 21:38

   Asteroids, Mayan calendar doomsday, and why apocalyptic cults still work

   1. KDKyle Dunnigan20:04

      We got to figure out that asteroid. We're not looking at enough of the sky.

   2. JRJoe Rogan20:07

      No.

   3. KDKyle Dunnigan20:07

      You know? It was... I think we're looking at 3%?

   4. JRJoe Rogan20:09

      Dude, and you get different answers from different folks when you ask them how long it would take before they could deflect something.

   5. KDKyle Dunnigan20:14

      Oh, forget... Well, it-

   6. JRJoe Rogan20:15

      I think Neil deGrasse Tyson, what did he say? 10 years? Do you remember?

   7. JVJamie Vernon20:18

      Well, he says, like, you gotta do, like, you gotta figure out how you're gonna do it, and-

   8. JRJoe Rogan20:22

      Jesus Louiseus, bro.

   9. JVJamie Vernon20:24

      ... practice, and then they're like, yeah, I don't know.

   10. JRJoe Rogan20:24

       Jesus Louiseus.

   11. KDKyle Dunnigan20:24

       And if it's too big, there's nothing you can do. I mean, if it's too big-

   12. JRJoe Rogan20:27

       If it's too big, there's nothing you can do.

   13. KDKyle Dunnigan20:28

       But I, I don't know. We could get a... Just, "You have one week to live," just could come on the news today.

   14. JRJoe Rogan20:34

       Right.

   15. KDKyle Dunnigan20:34

       We v- we just saw this asteroid.

   16. JVJamie Vernon20:36

       Oh, yeah. They said the Mayan calendar is supposed to technically end next week.

   17. JRJoe Rogan20:39

       Oh, Jesus Christ!

   18. KDKyle Dunnigan20:40

       That thing always comes up though-

   19. JVJamie Vernon20:42

       Yeah.

   20. KDKyle Dunnigan20:42

       ... and it's never anything. You know what shocks me is when you have a, the leader of a cult, and they have doomsday.

   21. JRJoe Rogan20:46

       Yeah.

   22. KDKyle Dunnigan20:46

       And they have the date and the time, and they all go outside and they sing, and it doesn't happen. And then that guy convinces them to stay, and he goes, "No, it's a different day."

   23. JRJoe Rogan20:55

       Yes.

   24. KDKyle Dunnigan20:55

       And they all just-

   25. JRJoe Rogan20:56

       (laughs) There was a, uh, a guy who was taking out billboards. There was a billboard in Woodland Hills on Ventura Boulevard. And it had this fucking billboard, and he had a bunch of them all over the place. But he had this billboard that showed the very day the Earth was gonna end. Like, it was like it had a date on it.

   26. KDKyle Dunnigan21:14

       Do you remember it?

   27. JRJoe Rogan21:15

       I don't r-... I wanna say it was, like, somewhere around April or May.

   28. KDKyle Dunnigan21:19

       Was it today? Oh, not sure my head.

   29. JRJoe Rogan21:19

       "Scientists Says Reading Mayan Calendar Predicts End of the World This Week."

   30. JVJamie Vernon21:24

       The 21st is what they said.
10. 21:38 – 26:44

    Mayans/Aztecs and human sacrifice → religion’s darkest stories (and the ‘she-bears’ passage)

    1. JRJoe Rogan21:38

       You know what, man? They, they did have a weird culture. The Mayans had a weird culture. It was r-... It's real-

    2. KDKyle Dunnigan21:45

       I don't know much about it. I know the temple, and they, they... Didn't they kill virgins?

    3. JRJoe Rogan21:50

       I don't think they killed v-... Well, who knows? But-

    4. KDKyle Dunnigan21:52

       This is great. I don't know about this topic.

    5. JRJoe Rogan21:53

       I don't know if they really know what exact people they killed. They killed a lot of people. But what's really interesting is how beautiful their structures were. Like, these amazing structures.

    6. KDKyle Dunnigan22:04

       I thought one of... Their pyramid, like those big steps.

    7. JRJoe Rogan22:06

       Yeah, yeah.

    8. KDKyle Dunnigan22:06

       I thought one of them was for murder, for their crops.

    9. JRJoe Rogan22:09

       They've, they've speculated-

    10. KDKyle Dunnigan22:11

        Like, around-

    11. JRJoe Rogan22:11

        ... that there were certain platforms that they would do, uh, sacrifices on. The Aztecs did, I think, the most sacrifices in one day. And, or it was, like, a couple of days. They, they killed somewhere around, I wanna say, I want, I wanna say more than 80,000 people they sacrificed.

    12. KDKyle Dunnigan22:31

        What?

    13. JRJoe Rogan22:32

        When they... Yeah, when they completed this, uh, one of the temples.

    14. KDKyle Dunnigan22:37

        How do you kill that many people?

    15. JVJamie Vernon22:38

        I want to fr-... I'm j-

    16. KDKyle Dunnigan22:39

        Did they bury them or something?

    17. JRJoe Rogan22:39

        They just killed them one after another.

    18. JVJamie Vernon22:41

        It's crazy.

    19. KDKyle Dunnigan22:41

        That takes a long time.

    20. JRJoe Rogan22:42

        Yeah, the victims of human sacrifice by Mexico's ancient Mayans who threw children into water-filled caverns were likely-

    21. KDKyle Dunnigan22:50

        Oh.

    22. JRJoe Rogan22:50

        ... boys and young men, not virgin girls, as previously believed. So, wow. They would human sacrifice by throwing children into water-filled caverns.

    23. KDKyle Dunnigan22:59

        I could see how that could help though your crop.

    24. JRJoe Rogan23:00

        To drown kids. Can you imagine that though? Like, you, you, you believe in superstition so much, you wanna drown a kid-

    25. KDKyle Dunnigan23:09

        Yeah.

    26. JRJoe Rogan23:09

        ... so that, so that the crops come back.

    27. KDKyle Dunnigan23:11

        That's a sign you, people feeling out of control. They don't know the answers to something. They can't figure out, and then they-

    28. JRJoe Rogan23:17

        How... But how crazy are the people in almost all religions, especially the ancient ones? They, they lean towards these really ridiculous things like that.

    29. KDKyle Dunnigan23:28

        Yeah, but who's the first-

    30. JRJoe Rogan23:30

        Sacrifice, yeah.
11. 26:44 – 33:35

    Kyle’s Yosemite tent-bear terror and ‘Grizzly Man’ as accidental comedy

    1. KDKyle Dunnigan26:44

       I was in a tent in the woods. I was at Yosemite, and I was with this girl, you know, I was dating. And, uh, before we packed up, the ranger guy was like, "Hey, don't have any food anywhere tied up in a tree. There's bears, they're coming out of their hibernation and they're hungry. Don't have a gum in your pocket." You know, it really scared us. We were with a little group and we were kind of laughing that night, like, "Whatever, like, bear." And just tried to scare everybody. And then-

    2. JRJoe Rogan27:08

       It's a horror movie (laughs) .

    3. KDKyle Dunnigan27:09

       It is. Yeah. People about to get murdered are always giggling about something.

    4. JRJoe Rogan27:13

       Yeah.

    5. KDKyle Dunnigan27:14

       So we're in the tent and about an hour into sleep, I had brought a knife in my, you know, tent, this fist-sized snout pushes into the tent, puffs her head, like her head went poof. Then it comes over to my head, puffs my head.

    6. JRJoe Rogan27:29

       Oh my God.

    7. KDKyle Dunnigan27:30

       And I had the thought, "Oh, this is what terror feels like." 'Cause I had never felt the emotion before. I'd never actually been terrified 'til that moment. And we just held each other's hands, like really hard, and just, you did everything not to breathe for two hours, just making the smallest amount of air come in your body.

    8. JRJoe Rogan27:47

       I have a theory about that. I think bears are figuring out that there's meat in those bags.

    9. KDKyle Dunnigan27:53

       Mm.

    10. JRJoe Rogan27:54

        I think they've figured out that there's little-

    11. KDKyle Dunnigan27:56

        Meat bags.

    12. JRJoe Rogan27:57

        ... just like, just like they find, like when bears go to garbage cans.

    13. KDKyle Dunnigan28:01

        Yeah.

    14. JRJoe Rogan28:01

        You can't, you can't scare them off. They're always gonna keep coming back to that garbage can. Once they go to the garbage can, they become a problem and they have to kidnap them and move them to some sanctuary somewhere, otherwise-

    15. KDKyle Dunnigan28:10

        Oh.

    16. JRJoe Rogan28:10

        ... they'd have to euthanize them.

    17. KDKyle Dunnigan28:11

        Oh, okay.

    18. JRJoe Rogan28:12

        Because once they know where something is, they keep going back.

    19. KDKyle Dunnigan28:14

        Yeah, they're not scared.

    20. JRJoe Rogan28:15

        Well, bears that have killed people in tents-

    21. KDKyle Dunnigan28:17

        They keep coming back?

    22. JRJoe Rogan28:18

        ... they keep coming back to tents.

    23. KDKyle Dunnigan28:20

        Yeah. We gotta kill those tent bears.

    24. JRJoe Rogan28:21

        I've heard of more than one different story about a, a predatory black bear attacking people in a tent. And the thing is, there's less deer in the place. If there's, uh, been a bad climate, there's not enough food.

    25. KDKyle Dunnigan28:37

        Why don't they attack us more? Do you know what I mean? Like-

    26. JRJoe Rogan28:40

        'Cause we have guns. That's the only reason why. And in places where people don't hunt bears, they have way less fear of people.

    27. KDKyle Dunnigan28:47

        I mean, I think they would wanna get us for food immediately, like, "Oh, there's some food."

    28. JRJoe Rogan28:51

        They don't know exactly what we are.

    29. KDKyle Dunnigan28:52

        Okay.

    30. JRJoe Rogan28:53

        We're not a part of their natural world, and we only occur every now and then, like, right? If you run into a grizzly bear in Alaska, you might be the first person that grizzly bear has ever seen.
12. 33:35 – 39:35

    Tesla love, Elon Musk, and the promise (and risk) of self-driving

    1. KDKyle Dunnigan33:35

       Hey. Are you a big camp... Do you go camping?

    2. JRJoe Rogan33:38

       Um, I have. Um, I like, I like rooftop t- camps, like where you could camp on the rooftop. They have rooftop tents.

    3. KDKyle Dunnigan33:45

       Yeah.

    4. JRJoe Rogan33:45

       That you put a r- have a roof rack on, um, my Land Cruiser. Put it on top.

    5. KDKyle Dunnigan33:49

       Oh, like of your car.

    6. JRJoe Rogan33:49

       Yup, climb up the ladder.

    7. KDKyle Dunnigan33:51

       I wanna get that s-

    8. JRJoe Rogan33:51

       That way you're camping but y- things aren't just gonna fucking crawl up on you.

    9. KDKyle Dunnigan33:55

       Yeah.

    10. JRJoe Rogan33:55

        You know?

    11. KDKyle Dunnigan33:56

        I wanna get that Cybertruck.

    12. JRJoe Rogan33:57

        Oh, yeah.

    13. KDKyle Dunnigan33:57

        Because that has a great camping situation.

    14. JRJoe Rogan34:00

        Plus you look like you're in the future.

    15. KDKyle Dunnigan34:02

        Yeah.

    16. JRJoe Rogan34:02

        Fucking camping in that thing.

    17. KDKyle Dunnigan34:03

        I fucking...

    18. JRJoe Rogan34:04

        That's some Blade Runner shit.

    19. KDKyle Dunnigan34:06

        I love my car, like, uh, in a way that I've never liked something I've bought before.

    20. JRJoe Rogan34:11

        It feels like, um, it's another thing, right? Like it's way better than a car.

    21. KDKyle Dunnigan34:16

        It is. And it's learning and getting better, and it feels like a, a child learning, growing up, and helping you more.

    22. JRJoe Rogan34:22

        Yeah, you keep getting these new updates.

    23. KDKyle Dunnigan34:24

        Yeah.

    24. JRJoe Rogan34:25

        And it-

    25. KDKyle Dunnigan34:25

        It's like Christmas.

    26. JRJoe Rogan34:26

        I- it drives itself and go doo-doo. Just drives itself.

    27. KDKyle Dunnigan34:29

        It's amazing, 'cause I bought mine in 2018, and how it's gotten so much better. I mean, they're solving vision, which I, I think should be bigger news than what it is. And the way they, they're doing it is brilliant. They have people paid them money for them to send out all these fleets and they get all the data.

    28. JRJoe Rogan34:48

        Yeah.

    29. KDKyle Dunnigan34:48

        Which is what they need, tons and tons of data. And it's, they see stoplights and stop signs now. I kinda watched a video on how they, they did this, and it's, they send out to the fleet like, "Hey, send us all your stop signs." And they all come back to this one place and it learns... And now, I got a stop sign in, near my house, and just a little piece is showing. It's covered by bushes and the, but the car recognizes it.

    30. JRJoe Rogan35:12

        Dude, the, the, just, and that's his side job.
13. 39:35 – 1:09:07

    Speech policing, ‘learn to code,’ and how text-based culture fuels misunderstanding

    1. JRJoe Rogan39:35

       Do you know the whole learn to code fiasco online?

    2. KDKyle Dunnigan39:39

       No.

    3. JRJoe Rogan39:39

       Well, uh, (laughs) someone was talking about, uh, coal miners, and like what, what they could do.

    4. KDKyle Dunnigan39:46

       Yeah.

    5. JRJoe Rogan39:46

       You know, if they stopped, uh, mining coal. And someone had said, "Learn to code."

    6. KDKyle Dunnigan39:50

       (laughs) Yeah.

    7. JRJoe Rogan39:51

       And then, learn to code somehow ... and I, I'm probably fucking this up, but became like a bad thing that you couldn't say on Twitter, like an insulting thing that would get you banned from Twitter.

    8. KDKyle Dunnigan40:01

       Why?

    9. JRJoe Rogan40:02

       Because learn to code was some sort of an insult. It became some sort of an insult, or mocking this idea that these people ... So, you would ... You, you can't ... I mean, it seems like the most innocuous of sentences. Learn to code.

    10. KDKyle Dunnigan40:15

        Right.

    11. JRJoe Rogan40:15

        Is there anything wrong with learning? No.

    12. KDKyle Dunnigan40:16

        Right.

    13. JRJoe Rogan40:16

        Is there anything wrong with learning code? No, there's not. So how come I can't say learn to code? I can't say it because, at one point in time, it was used to describe this one thing. And now it can be kinda become funny.

    14. KDKyle Dunnigan40:27

        Learn to code.

    15. JRJoe Rogan40:28

        Yeah.

    16. KDKyle Dunnigan40:28

        I don't ... Yeah, I don't understand why that's bad. It seems like good advice.

    17. JRJoe Rogan40:32

        It seems like good advice always, but may- I mean, maybe it's mean to say to these coal miners they should learn to code. I get that.

    18. KDKyle Dunnigan40:38

        That's-

    19. JRJoe Rogan40:39

        But you could also-

    20. KDKyle Dunnigan40:39

        Yeah.

    21. JRJoe Rogan40:39

        ... use that in a lot of different ways. Once someone said, "Learn to code," and it sounds good, um, that's not limited to that one meaning.

    22. KDKyle Dunnigan40:46

        Right.

    23. JRJoe Rogan40:47

        R- you, you could say it as a friend, like to ... as a joke.

    24. KDKyle Dunnigan40:49

        Right.

    25. JRJoe Rogan40:49

        Like, "Learn to code." And you're not, you're not being an asshole.

    26. KDKyle Dunnigan40:52

        Right.

    27. JRJoe Rogan40:52

        Like, your friend is like, "Oh, my fucking job is so annoying," and you're like, "Learn to code."

    28. KDKyle Dunnigan40:56

        Yeah.

    29. JRJoe Rogan40:57

        Did you get kicked off Twitter?

    30. KDKyle Dunnigan40:58

        Yeah, they took the whole phrase by-

Episode duration: 3:22:25