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Joe Rogan Experience #1505 - Hannibal Buress

Hannibal Buress is a stand-up comedian, actor, television writer and host. Look for his new special "Miami Nights" available now on YouTube. https://youtu.be/kVc4-05Agf0 @hannibalburess

Joe RoganhostHannibal BuressguestJamie VernonguestGuest 2guest
Jul 9, 20202h 34mWatch on YouTube ↗

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  1. 0:011:44

    Thailand reunion & Hannibal’s Muay Thai “reset” trip

    1. JR

      Hello, Hannibal.

    2. HB

      What's happening, man?

    3. JR

      Good to see you, my friend.

    4. HB

      Good to see you too.

    5. JR

      It's been a wh- Last time I saw you was in Thailand.

    6. HB

      It was in Thailand.

    7. JR

      Dude.

    8. HB

      Yeah.

    9. JR

      That was crazy.

    10. HB

      And that was...

    11. JR

      Two years ago?

    12. HB

      Two years. 2018, yeah.

    13. JR

      Yeah.

    14. HB

      Yeah.

    15. JR

      That was random.

    16. HB

      That was very random.

    17. JR

      (laughs)

    18. HB

      (laughs)

    19. JR

      That's so crazy, though.

    20. HB

      Yeah.

    21. JR

      I mean, we had dinner, hung out in Thailand. I was like, "This is wild."

    22. HB

      Yeah. Yeah, at the, uh, it was in Chiang Mai.

    23. JR

      Chiang Mai, yeah.

    24. HB

      Yeah, I was doing Muay Thai out there.

    25. JR

      Yeah, that's crazy. So you just decided, just up and decided, "I'm gonna go there by myself-"

    26. HB

      Yeah.

    27. JR

      "... for several months."

    28. HB

      Uh, just a month.

    29. JR

      Oh, you went for a month?

    30. HB

      Yeah.

  2. 1:444:45

    Learning Muay Thai late: bowlegged kicks, “Elbow” nickname, and technique advice

    1. JR

      How into it did you get? Did you ever, were you ever, like, hitting the pads going, "I think I should take a fight"?

    2. HB

      No, I didn't-

    3. JR

      No?

    4. HB

      ... wanna take a fight. I, uh, but it was, it was some times where, uh, my, uh, my kicks, I'm bowlegged, so my kicks are weird. So, like, doing a roundhouse, I wouldn't be able to, so my elbows were, were decent, and my knees. And so some of the trainers, they called it, they started, uh, that was my nickname. It was Elbow. "Elbow, come over here. Elbow!"

    5. JR

      (laughs)

    6. HB

      But my kicks would be so weak. They would be so weak, it'd just, (slaps hands) like, hit the pad and it'd just have a pitiful sound.

    7. JR

      It's not a thing that comes easily, especially, you know, when you're in your 30s and you're just starting to train.

    8. HB

      Yeah.

    9. JR

      Like, Muay Thai is, there's, like, the, the, to move your legs like that and that kind of dexterity takes a while. It's a slow, gradual buildup.

    10. HB

      Yes, the, the hips have to be looser and hit.

    11. JR

      Mm-hmm.

    12. HB

      Yeah, it was just, but I'm also bowlegged, so certain yoga things that I can't do or even sitting Indian style.

    13. JR

      But you seem normal when you're walking around. How are you bow, 'cause I know some-

    14. HB

      Mm-hmm.

    15. JR

      ... dudes that are really bowlegged.

    16. HB

      My walk is a little bit, it, it has a little bit to it. And s- and when I run, it gets really crazy. I don't look how I think I look in my head-

    17. JR

      (laughs)

    18. HB

      ... while I'm walking. I think, like, the music in my head is... (singing) But my walk is kind of (singing) .

    19. JR

      (laughs)

    20. HB

      Like, my walk is way weird. I look at, on camera, "Who is that guy?"

    21. JR

      And what causes bowleggedness? Is it a anatomy thing? Is it just, like, your-

    22. HB

      I think it's an anatomy thing. Yeah, it's just, like-

    23. JR

      Like, give me six. Stand up.

    24. HB

      So yeah, so the, my knees don't touch. So it's a, yeah.

    25. JR

      But you seem normal. I'm not seeing-

    26. HB

      It seem-

    27. JR

      ... anything weird.

    28. HB

      It's not crazy, but it's just, it, it, it affects my roundhouse game, you know?

    29. JR

      Mm, I could help you with that. I guarantee you.

    30. HB

      Yeah.

  3. 4:456:56

    Kids fighting, Thai fight economics, and the monarchy’s power

    1. HB

      Yeah. It was, uh, seeing the kids, I went to some of the fights out there and it's wild seeing the kids in the, in the undercard where you're seeing seven-year-olds-

    2. JR

      It's crazy, right?

    3. HB

      ... fighting. And you're like, "This is wrong, but I gotta see the main event too," so I can't leave. (laughs)

    4. JR

      It's their culture. It, it is, it is ki- it feels wrong, but it's their culture.

    5. HB

      Yeah.

    6. JR

      And it's also how a lot of the families make money. I mean, they literally send their kid off to the camp.

    7. HB

      But I was alwa- I was trying to figure out, and so it's, it's part of the culture.

    8. JR

      Mm-hmm.

    9. HB

      It's national sport, but it doesn't seem, uh, you know, you have people, uh, it's, it's some, some fighters that are legends there that's the equivalent to Mike Tyson or something. And you could probably get a private with them for 400 bucks.

    10. JR

      Yup.

    11. HB

      So what's going on with the motto over there where it's been a national sport for a while, but it, it seems like-... the, the, the money isn't there? Is it corruption, or what happened?

    12. JR

      Well, first of all, it's very inexpensive to go to the fights. You know that.

    13. HB

      Yeah.

    14. JR

      E- everything's inexpensive in Thailand. And I mean, everybody's wearing flip-flops, right?

    15. HB

      Mm-hmm.

    16. JR

      It's an interesting place. Like, um, my friend, Jon Lien Par, went there when he was a boy. Uh, he was a young teenager and lived there. Lived as a monk, you know, he's a Australian multiple time world Muay Thai champion. And he, he spent like a good deal of his time growing up there and really embraced the culture. And he's like, they're just ... First of all, the cu- it's the land of smiles. Like everyone's-

    17. HB

      Right.

    18. JR

      ... everyone's friendly. Like you, one of the things I noticed there, like people are g- genuinely very friendly. There's very little materialism there. People are, uh, generally happy with, like wearing a pair of shorts. It's never h- cold out, so you could wear shorts and flip-flops. And that's how everybody's walking around. And I don't think there's a lot of money in the business.

    19. HB

      Yeah.

    20. JR

      You know? I think there's enough-

    21. HB

      The king takes it.

    22. JR

      The king takes it. King takes a lot ... We, remember we took, we took a picture in front of the king.

    23. HB

      We did.

    24. JR

      We took a picture in front of ... I was like, "I don't know if we should post this." Like you and me-

    25. HB

      Yeah.

    26. JR

      ... p- smiling in front of a picture of the king. Like you might get in trouble for that. There's weird rules over there for the king.

  4. 6:5611:30

    Thailand’s king: hype videos, strict laws, and viral photos

    1. HB

      The king, I, I actually had a, a bit about him. I cut it not 'cause I was scared, but just 'cause it didn't, it didn't fit. But it's about how he, you know, you have to stand up, uh, during the national anth- ... And they play it at certain times during the day and they play it before the movies. So I went to the movies out there to see Ant-Man 2 and after the previews, the king of Thailand's hype video comes on and everybody has to stand up.

    2. JR

      In the movie theater?

    3. HB

      In the movie theater. But it was the worst produced-

    4. JR

      (laughs)

    5. HB

      It was a terrible video. I seen Instagram fitness models with better videos than the king of Tha- ... It's like, well, you, you the king, get some king-like production value. You ain't got no top-notch editors?

    6. JR

      I don't think Thailand's known for its like films.

    7. HB

      He needs to get on Fiverr or something. (laughs)

    8. JR

      (laughs)

    9. HB

      I don't work for Fiverr, by the way. (laughs) What's that new one that lost all the money? Quibi, what is it called?

    10. JR

      Qui- ... (laughs)

    11. HB

      What is it called? Is that it? Quibi? Yeah. Maybe get on that.

    12. JR

      (laughs)

    13. HB

      I don't know. He needs so- because he was ... You the king.

    14. JR

      Yeah.

    15. HB

      And you're putting your stuff i- in a, in a Marvel movie in the theater?

    16. JR

      Did you see that, did you see that shit with his mistress? He had an official mistress, but she fucked up and she got demoted. And so she had to like, uh, like bow down in front of him, in front of everybody. Like she was talking shit. Like, uh, the, the mistress probably wanted to be the queen. Like, go get it there, she's like begging for forgiveness.

    17. HB

      Oh, my... Oh.

    18. JR

      The king makes the mistress lie at his feet and make her his... What does it say?

    19. HB

      As he makes her his-

    20. JR

      What does it say there?

    21. JV

      It's from the song, bro.

    22. HB

      Oh, concubine.

    23. JR

      His official... That was when she was the official concubine, uh, attended by his wi- ... Look at that, he wrote "Wife" in all capitals. But then he demoted her. This is, this is when she became the official concubine. And by the way, I think that was the first time anybody had an official concubine in like 100 years.

    24. HB

      Yeah. That's like, that's the, that's ... This is the flashiest version of, "I don't love that ho."

    25. JR

      (laughs)

    26. HB

      (laughs) "I don't love that ho. I love you. Look." (laughs) "I'll shame that bitch in front of everybody. Look."

    27. JR

      She had to lie down at his feet.

    28. HB

      "Look, look."

    29. JR

      (laughs)

    30. HB

      "Fuck you." (laughs)

  5. 11:3015:42

    Lethwei (bare-knuckle headbutt fighting) and a surprise Muay Thai date flex

    1. JR

      Myanmar. I wanna go see, uh, have you ever seen, um, Lethwei? Do you know what that is?

    2. HB

      No.

    3. JR

      That's like, if you think muay Thai boxing is extreme-

    4. HB

      Mm-hmm.

    5. JR

      ... they take it another level. Lethwei, they use headbutts and they, they kick you when you're down. They do all kinds of crazy shit.

    6. HB

      ... yeah, nah.

    7. JR

      No?

    8. HB

      Yeah, I don't wanna kick, kicked while down. It's, it's, it's, it looks, it's too intense. It's, it's too-

    9. JR

      It's in Te... We had, uh, David Leduc, who's the, uh, the King of Lethwei. He came on the podcast. He's a w- wild man. He's a wild man.

    10. HB

      Yeah. I, I think about-

    11. JR

      Oh, they're bare knuckle, too.

    12. HB

      Mm. Yeah.

    13. JR

      (laughs) There it is.

    14. HB

      Nope, I just want some cardio, you know?

    15. JR

      This is Lethwei. Look at this.

    16. HB

      That's-

    17. JR

      This is how they, they fight.

    18. HB

      Okay. Wow.

    19. JR

      Bare knuckles. They just ... It's basically like Muay Thai, but way ha- way more hardcore. Like, see that? You can knee a dude on the, when he's on his way down. It's just, it's way more hardcore. It's like one more level of hardcore. And headbutts. A lot of headbutts.

    20. HB

      (laughs)

    21. JR

      Yeah. But they basically use all the techniques of Muay Thai but they just take it to a totally different level.

    22. HB

      This, the second time I went, when I went to, um, Koh Samui, uh, in, uh, last year. And, uh, this girl I was seeing, she ... We, we go to a couple classes and I didn't know she had done Muay Thai before. (laughs) So when we were ... We had a private ... And she was lighting the bag up with the kicks. (laughs) She-

    23. JR

      Oh, no.

    24. HB

      Bow, bow, bow. And I was like, "Oh." And then I get up there with my bowlegged kicks.

    25. JR

      (laughs)

    26. HB

      (laughs) Bip. (laughs)

    27. JR

      Oh, no.

    28. HB

      Then the trainer's like, "Come on, you can do better. Look at ..." (laughs)

    29. JR

      Oh, no.

    30. HB

      She light it ... Bow, bow. And I'm like, "Let's not do kicks and knees."

  6. 15:4234:40

    From lockdown anxiety to an escape plan: Ghana, ancestry, and election dread

    1. JR

      Speaking of living ...

    2. HB

      Yeah.

    3. JR

      I've been hearing some crazy shit about you.

    4. HB

      What are you hear-

    5. JR

      And I've been hearing that you are making a move, like a very, very unusual move to a very strange place-

    6. HB

      Yeah.

    7. JR

      ... that's very unusual for a man from Chicago to just up and take off.

    8. HB

      Yeah. And that's, uh ... I, I do wanna get into that. That just reminded me-

    9. JR

      Oh.

    10. HB

      ... that I bought some of those flamethrowers when they, when they were selling 'em and then-

    11. JR

      Oh, the Elon Musk one?

    12. HB

      I bought them with the intent of reselling 'em in our, in their, in my parents' basement, so, uh ... (laughs)

    13. JR

      How many you got?

    14. HB

      I think I bought four.

    15. JR

      That's a good investment.

    16. HB

      Yeah.

    17. JR

      They're probably worth a lot of money.

    18. HB

      Yeah.

    19. JR

      Yeah.

    20. HB

      I gotta, uh, yeah, I gotta go check on 'em. Okay. Uh, so with this whole ...

    21. JR

      You doing something crazy?

    22. HB

      I might ... So COVID and just kinda being cooped up, it really made me think about how you ... The places that I've lived and what, what was keeping me from living elsewhere and, and moving, um, internationally. Is it 'cause, oh, you need to be here for work. Uh, uh, uh some ... You have to be-

    23. JR

      Right.

    24. HB

      ... you know, within a couple hours of these places to either tour or film. But now touring's super weird. Um-

    25. JR

      Are you doing any touring at all?

    26. HB

      Uh, no.

    27. JR

      When was the last time you did standup?

    28. HB

      Beginning of March.

    29. JR

      Me too. Until I did-

    30. HB

      The beginning of March in Denver.

  7. 34:4040:11

    Escapism media: Floor Is Lava, news overload, and MarbleLympics

    1. HB

      Yeah. You know what I've been doing just to turn my brain off? Uh, putting on that show The Floor is Lava on Netflix, and just-

    2. JR

      Yes.

    3. HB

      ... Sound Off, put music on. Sometimes I put, like, the Super Mario theme-

    4. JR

      (clears throat)

    5. HB

      ... in it, and it- and it lines up, and I'll play the death music when they fall into something just to just... It's just good to zone out for (clicks tongue) a half hour or a- a hour and just look at something that is not intense at all, just low-

    6. JR

      It's nonsense.

    7. HB

      Low stakes, chill-

    8. JR

      (laughs)

    9. HB

      ... entertainment, just escape a little bit, like, watch people try not to fall in the lava.

    10. JR

      Yeah, my friend Rutledge, Rutledge w-... He's the host of that. He's a car guy.

    11. HB

      Yeah.

    12. JR

      Shout-out to Rutledge. Yeah, uh, my kids love that show.

    13. HB

      Yeah.

    14. JR

      D-

    15. HB

      Sound Off is a good Sound Off show.

    16. JR

      Yeah. Just red water.

    17. HB

      Yeah. Just red... You get it. You don't need to hear anything they say.

    18. JR

      (laughs)

    19. HB

      I don't care about your backstory. Oh, you're all doctors? Well, then, I s-... Okay, I get it. Don't wanna... And I don't what nobody sound like. Play some tunes-

    20. JR

      (laughs)

    21. HB

      ... and watch Floor is Lava.

    22. JR

      Just zone.

    23. HB

      And just let it be a... Yeah, meditation. It's great.

    24. JR

      Yeah, there's, like, those are the kinda things that are very- they're very popular at times like this. Like, we want cartoons almost. We want s- things that are silly, no stakes.

    25. HB

      Y- 'cause you can... It's so much...There's so much news, and every area has so much news right now. So if you want it, you can get it right now, 'cause every state has its own individual corona situation, so you can kinda get lost in the... I'm getting, you know, lost in the California and Illinois, 'cause that's where I am, where my family is, but then there's everywhere else. And oh, and then you kind of feel, "Oh, yeah, Atlanta's been open for a while. They're shooting stuff in Atlanta. They've been shooting and filming for a month. Oh, what's going on here? What the fuck going on there?" So it's just if you... I was able to do it earlier at- at- at- and- and kinda, oh, shut off and- and get off of socials at one point, and then things got more intense, the George Floyd thing, and- and then I got back in the news again, like, really looking at stuff. And- and, uh, and yeah, I- I- I need a- I need a cleanse.

    26. JR

      I don't think people are supposed to take in the news of the whole world. I think it's very bad for you.

    27. HB

      Yeah.

    28. JR

      I think 'cause most of the news you're gonna get is the news of things that are dangerous.

    29. HB

      Yeah.

    30. JR

      So you're getting things that are dangerous all over the world, so it gives you a distorted perception of the current danger around you. You think-

  8. 40:1153:21

    Ghana logistics, resocializing via music, and getting Hannibal a COVID test

    1. JR

      I get it. So Ghana. Have you been before?

    2. HB

      No, I've been to Nigeria and- and Kenya.

    3. JR

      Do you know anyone over there?

    4. HB

      I know a couple folks. Actually, what- what really... I told my brother I was thinking about it, and he says, "Oh, one of my- my old friends from work is from Ghana. Let's all have a- a call." And so we get on a call and then I think- I'm thinking he's gonna say, "Oh, restaurant recommendations," and just, you know, some type of fluff, kinda helpful, but- but the- he took the trip- trip so serious where, "Okay, we're gonna have you meet these people. If you wanna work on this, we're gonna have you do this, and you..." And so it made me take it so serious where it went from being kind of an idea to, "I guess I'm doing this," because-

    5. JR

      Wow.

    6. HB

      ... I know it's gonna be kinda, um, laid out in a real structured way. Well, sometimes when I've traveled, I don't- I haven't planned thoroughly like that. So I think it's, uh, it's gonna be exciting, man, just to get in a whole- a whole different zone. I'm still youngish to- to live in another country, so-

    7. JR

      Look, you're not married and you don't have kids. This is the time to do it.

    8. HB

      Right.

    9. JR

      Fuck it.

    10. HB

      Yeah.

    11. JR

      Why not? You know? And you've been very smart with your money. I know you- you invest in real estate.

    12. HB

      Yeah.

    13. JR

      So you've got a bunch of shit going on that's making you money. Why not? Fuck it.

    14. HB

      Go.

    15. JR

      It's a good move. I like it. I like the idea just of doing something like that where you completely take yourself out of the normal life, because for a creative person, I think you can run dry, like in terms of inspiration and- and experiences. I mean, obviously there's a lot of chaos around us right now, so there's a lot of things to draw from, but something like going to Ghana.

    16. HB

      All of my... I've been making, uh, I've been making some music and so, uh, it's this, uh, show I've been doing called Smoking at Church.... this guy, uh, James Earl and, uh, Jameel Bruner. And it was my first time, um, being around a group of people in a while that I didn't know. And then I got invited to the studio. It was five or six people. This is pre my mushroom, uh, rooftop party (coughs) freakout. But I get to the studio, it was real nerve wracking. Like, "Man, it's five people in here. Oh, am I gonna ... Huh?" And it, and it was like resocializing again.

    17. JR

      Mm-hmm.

    18. HB

      I was like, "Hey. How y'all, how y'all doing?" And, "Hello." Uh, and eventually calmed down. I actually took a shot for the first time in ... I hadn't drank since beginning of 2018. But I took a shot just to commemorate being around a group of people again, and I was, I hadn't drank since then without. Uh, and so started making music with them, and that's been my one place I've been going to besides working at my spot. I've been, you know, hanging out and then just going there. I got three total places that I be.

    19. JR

      Is anybody getting tested?

    20. HB

      Uh, no. I think we're just going on the "you don't seem like you dying" act. (laughs)

    21. JR

      (laughs)

    22. HB

      It's not real- ... It's been ... You know, I think mostly we keep it in-

    23. JR

      Do you wanna get tested?

    24. HB

      Uh, yeah.

    25. JR

      You want to get tested today? I can get you tested.

    26. HB

      Sure.

    27. JR

      Okay.

    28. HB

      All right.

    29. JR

      I'm gonna make a test right now. I'm gonna make ... I'm ... While we're, while we're sitting here.

    30. HB

      You wanna make ... Okay.

  9. 53:211:05:47

    Apps, Roblox, and quarantine gaming addiction (2K, GTA comedy clubs, Unreal Engine)

    1. JR

      I wish it was easier to make an app. I've looked into having apps made. It's fucking complicated. You ever made an app or had an app made?

    2. HB

      No, I haven't. I haven't had one made. I-

    3. JR

      It's complicated.

    4. HB

      Uh, yeah, you gotta ... I mean, I guess you get a- you gotta get some people. I'm thinking about having a game made.

    5. JR

      Really?

    6. HB

      Yeah.

    7. JR

      What kind?

    8. HB

      Just, uh, on Roblox.

    9. JR

      Oh, no. My kids are addicted to that fucking game.

    10. HB

      Just a game made based on the comedy special Loosely.

    11. JR

      Oh.

    12. HB

      Just-

    13. JR

      Like all the subjects that you talk about in the comedy special?

    14. HB

      I'm not sure about all, but maybe finding one angle of it and then stretching that out into a game.

    15. JR

      Like the arrest story?

    16. HB

      The arrest story maybe, yeah. Something like that.

    17. JR

      (laughs)

    18. HB

      And then- and having it be in a game.

    19. JR

      That could work. Uh, Jamie told me that, uh, it was Grand Theft Auto. They have, like, places you can go, like, you can watch a comedy show, right?

    20. G2

      ... wasn't that?

    21. G3

      Yeah, I'd, for sure, yeah. Uh, I don't, (clears throat) I haven't played it since they've expanded it in the last like two years, 'cause that game came like 10 years ago now.

    22. G2

      Yeah.

    23. G3

      Which is pretty crazy, right?

    24. G2

      No, the, the one in New York, they had the, the, that Laugh Factory, that was in Times Square, was on the game. And Katt Williams was on there, and I think Patrice- And you could just go in there and watch them do stand-up?

    25. G3

      ... was in the comedy club. Or he, or Patrice was on the radio, but Patrice was definitely on there. Yeah, you could just go in there, yeah, and, and, and watch them perform. I think J.B. Smoove was on the radio, too. Grand Theft Auto is, uh, yeah, that's how-

    26. G2

      Look at this.

    27. G3

      Yeah, it's Katt, yeah. They animated him and everything.

    28. G2

      That is crazy. That is crazy. Look at this.

    29. HB

      Every day I'm hustling...

    30. G2

      (laughs) That's him.

  10. 1:05:471:25:45

    Standup during COVID: drive-in shows, creative output, and special-release realities

    1. JR

      How are you feeling without doing standup? Is it weirding you out?

    2. HB

      Um, no. I, you know, dropping a special made it kind of weird just because there's a lot of movement that's usually associated with a release, you know.

    3. JR

      Mm-hmm.

    4. HB

      Going to do TV. Usually you in New York and LA. You probably pop up at the comedy club a couple times that week. And so that was, that was kind of a, a very weird foreign feeling to have a big drop.... um, and then, and then that hap- And I think that's what kinda led to me throwing a little jam on my roof was like, I need it. I was like, "It feel too weird. I gotta have some type of little gathering." You know what I mean?

    5. JR

      Mm-hmm.

    6. HB

      Um, but yeah, I've been, I've been getting, uh, my outlet has been music as far as just being able to hang out and, you know, crack jokes and, and, and be creative. Uh, and I've been seeing that there's drive-through shows happening. I'm, I'm thinking about doing some drive-through s-, uh, some drive-in screenings for special-

    7. JR

      Bert Kreischer's been doing a lot of that.

    8. HB

      Yeah?

    9. JR

      Yeah. He did one with, uh, Ms. Pat and Jesus Trejo. It looked like fun, man. They're on stage and they had 700 cars.

    10. HB

      Wow.

    11. JR

      That's how they, they put it. Instead of, like, 700 people in the audience, they had 700 cars and there's ... Bert's got a video of it. It's pretty badass. When the people are applauding at the end-

    12. HB

      Mm-hmm. They honk.

    13. JR

      ... they're honking their horn-

    14. HB

      Yeah.

    15. JR

      ... and flashing their lights.

    16. HB

      Yeah.

    17. JR

      And he said it was like a, like UFOs landing. It's wild. There's all these headlights.

    18. HB

      Yeah.

    19. JR

      700 cars.

    20. HB

      Are they all, um-

    21. JR

      Here he is.

    22. HB

      ... on stage at once?

    23. JR

      Um, no, no. I mean, they did sets. I mean, they did it like a comedy show.

    24. HB

      Okay.

    25. JR

      Yeah.

    26. HB

      'Cause that's the thing that I wonder about as a performer-

    27. JR

      Look at the, the grilling. (laughs)

    28. HB

      ... and, and trying to ride the wave. You know what I mean?

    29. JR

      Right. But look at that, Ms. Pat. There she is.

    30. HB

      Oh, so people are outside in their cars-

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