The Joe Rogan ExperienceJoe Rogan Experience #1523 - Joey Diaz & Brian Redban
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Birthday toast, COVID-era drinking, and surprisingly good non-alcoholic beer
- JRJoe Rogan
(thumping sound) (snaps fingers) Whoo! Salud, gentlemen. (glasses clinking)
- JDJoey Diaz
Salud. Happy birthday, my brother.
- JRJoe Rogan
Thank you so much. Thank you for being here.
- JDJoey Diaz
To many more.
- JRJoe Rogan
Thank you, Young Jamie. (glasses clinking)
- BRBrian Redban
Thanks, sweetie.
- JRJoe Rogan
Thank you. Thank you all. Whoo. (sighs)
- JDJoey Diaz
Tremendous.
- JRJoe Rogan
53 spins around the sun.
- JDJoey Diaz
I have not fucking had a drink the whole fucking-
- JRJoe Rogan
The whole COVID?
- JDJoey Diaz
... the whole COVID. Not an- and, you know, and I didn't drink before that either, I don't think.
- JRJoe Rogan
No, you weren't much of a drinker.
- JDJoey Diaz
It's fuck- every night I go home, I'm gonna have a make up 'cause that- the Heineken makes it light.
- JRJoe Rogan
Yeah.
- JDJoey Diaz
Five points.
- JRJoe Rogan
Oh, yeah.
- JDJoey Diaz
Tremendous. The last-
- JRJoe Rogan
They make a double zero that actually tastes good.
- JDJoey Diaz
The last-
- JRJoe Rogan
Zero alcohol, it's the be- they- Heineken has, for sure, the best non-alcoholic beer.
- JDJoey Diaz
Really?
- JRJoe Rogan
It tastes like fucking beer. Like, you're- you- if you were a alcoholic, you'd be like, "Oh, my God. I fucked up." Like s- you know how you have those- like, I like O'Doul's. They taste good, but it doesn't taste like beer. A cold O'Doul's is delicious. I like those non-alcoh- I do. Some people don't like 'em. I like 'em. Like, a cold one is really nice. But it- you know what you're doing. With the Heineken, they kinda trick you. I don't know what the fuck they're doing. They're doing some weird shit 'cause it tastes like- it tastes like beer.
- BRBrian Redban
Well, beer is like a taste kind of.
- JRJoe Rogan
Yeah.
- BRBrian Redban
That's- that's why O'Doul's work. It's kind of like s- that smoke juice you put in meat. Like, "Oh, that's the s- taste of smoke."
- JRJoe Rogan
Right, or like watermelon gum.
- BRBrian Redban
Yeah.
- JRJoe Rogan
That shit don't taste like watermelon.
- BRBrian Redban
Nah, but still good. (laughs)
- 1:19 – 3:10
Beer history, low-alcohol laws, and the U.S. drinking age change
- JDJoey Diaz
It's so crazy how beer- like, I grew up on six-packs and eight-packs.
- JRJoe Rogan
Hmm.
- JDJoey Diaz
Eight-packs were the eight ounces.
- JRJoe Rogan
Yeah.
- JDJoey Diaz
Nips, you got a case of nips or a case of beer. And then you went out to Colorado and they had 3.2.
- JRJoe Rogan
3.2?
- JDJoey Diaz
Alcohol.
- JRJoe Rogan
Low alcohol beer.
- JDJoey Diaz
If you're under-
- JRJoe Rogan
Like Utah.
- JDJoey Diaz
... between 18 and 21.
- JRJoe Rogan
Oh, really?
- JDJoey Diaz
That's what you have to drink. Then when you turn 21-
- JRJoe Rogan
Oh.
- JDJoey Diaz
... they give you the full dose. There used to be a club on the hill. I for- uh, I forget what it was, in- in the University of Boulder downstairs, and that's what they served you, 3.2 beer.
- JRJoe Rogan
Right around the time I was turning 18 was the time they made it 21 years old. I'm pretty sure. Find out when they did it in Massachusetts. When did Massachusetts make the drinking age from 18 to 21? I feel like I missed it by, like, a year or two, but probably for good. They were like, "Jesus Christ." Like-
- BRBrian Redban
I remember that when I was in elementary. People were mad about that. (laughs)
- JRJoe Rogan
Yeah, at least make it harder for them. Fucking animals.
- JDJoey Diaz
Thank you for the COVID test.
- JRJoe Rogan
My pleasure.
- JDJoey Diaz
I did the blood test.
- JRJoe Rogan
Okay. They're- it's 1979, they've raised the drinking age from 18 to 20. Huh, but when was it 21? Oh, okay. '84, Dukakis.
- JDJoey Diaz
'84.
- JRJoe Rogan
Exactly. Okay.
- BRBrian Redban
Dukakis.
- JRJoe Rogan
So '84, I was 17. That son of a bitch, and he raised it from 20 to 21.
- JDJoey Diaz
Dukakis also fucked up. He gave out furloughs to prisoners, and one escaped and killed somebody. So when I got into a halfway house-
- JRJoe Rogan
That was Willie Brown, right? Wasn't it?
- JDJoey Diaz
Somebody. When I got to a halfway house, everybody was mad at Dukakis 'cause you couldn't have furloughs no more.
- JRJoe Rogan
Oh.
- 3:10 – 4:56
COVID prison releases and the case for freeing non-violent offenders
- JRJoe Rogan
Well, they're releasing a lot of prisoners right now 'cause of COVID. They're opening up the doors.
- JDJoey Diaz
18,000 in California.
- JRJoe Rogan
Yeah, yeah.
- BRBrian Redban
Did you hear that one that just, uh-
- JDJoey Diaz
That came out of jail and shot the motherfucker who accused him.
- BRBrian Redban
Yeah.
- JRJoe Rogan
Yeah, yeah. I don't- yeah, I don't know if that's the best idea, kids. 'Cause a lot of those people are very violent. Like, it- it depends on what you're letting out. If you're letting out some dude who sel- sold weed, you should've let him out a long time ago, you know? You're letting out some guy who's selling mushrooms, let that guy out. Don't put- keep him in a fucking cage with people who are murderers.
- JDJoey Diaz
We've had this conversation before. (graphics thudding) You gotta let out the people that are non-violent drug offenders.
- JRJoe Rogan
Yes, all of 'em.
- JDJoey Diaz
Non-violent drug offenders, first time, first time offenders unless, you know, there's- there's- you know what the big thing in jail is sometimes when you go to county? There's a big DUI population.
- JRJoe Rogan
Really?
- JDJoey Diaz
There's motherfuckers that can't stop getting DUIs.
- BRBrian Redban
(sighs)
- JDJoey Diaz
I think my ex-brother-in-law has the record in Colorado. (fart sound effect) And I'm not making a joke here.
- JRJoe Rogan
Hmm.
- JDJoey Diaz
Like, there's people that stay in the system because of the DUI problem.
- JRJoe Rogan
Jesus.
- JDJoey Diaz
You know, they gotta blow into a tube before they start their car.
- JRJoe Rogan
Yeah, my friend Robbie had that.
- JDJoey Diaz
Yeah.
- JRJoe Rogan
His work van.
- JDJoey Diaz
They- they- they's got all types of shit so-
- JRJoe Rogan
And then they-
- JDJoey Diaz
... and then they put you in work release. That's a complete different situation. Then you, you know, you- it- they have different levels of it, you know?
- JRJoe Rogan
Yeah. That blowing in the thing, it takes some time too. He couldn't just start his car. So if it was cold out, like, we were playing pool, and I go, "How long does that take?" And he's like, "It takes, like, five minutes. Just gotta sit here."
- JDJoey Diaz
10 seconds.
- JRJoe Rogan
'Cause it has to check to see to make sure you're all right. And you can't- there's no getaways. Like, if something's chasing you, (laughs) you hop out of the car, you gotta blow in the thing-
- JDJoey Diaz
No, you gotta-
- JRJoe Rogan
... to get the car to start.
- JDJoey Diaz
... I had a friend that did that. He used to just pay people $5 to blow in there.
- 4:56 – 5:40
Chicago unrest, misinformation, and fear of another national flashpoint
- JRJoe Rogan
Do you know what happened in Chicago? Do you have any idea what happened this weekend in Chicago?
- JDJoey Diaz
No.
- JRJoe Rogan
Do you- do you know?
- JDJoey Diaz
Oh, about the-
- BRBrian Redban
Mm-hmm.
- JRJoe Rogan
... crazy-
- JDJoey Diaz
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
- JRJoe Rogan
... the world- there was a shooting.
- JDJoey Diaz
The riots.
- JRJoe Rogan
There was a shooting and then there was some crazy looting.
- BRBrian Redban
They broke into Tesla.
- JRJoe Rogan
And Jamie was the first one to tell me that there was, like, an incorrect story. The incorrect story was that a 14-year-old girl was shot. Is that what it was? Or 15-year-old girl was shot?
- BRBrian Redban
I heard, yeah, a 15-year-old was shot and killed by the police, but it was misinformation that was- and I don't know how that got out or who put it out initially. I didn't find out that part of it, but it was actually a 20-year-old that was not killed and was in the hospital. (liquid sloshing)
- JRJoe Rogan
Oof.
- BRBrian Redban
So it got- I don't know. I-
- JRJoe Rogan
Yeah, we're one of those away. We're one of those away from this whole fucking thing exploding in, uh, in different cities again.
- 5:40 – 16:13
Why leaving Los Angeles feels inevitable: shutdowns, decay, and gun lines
- JDJoey Diaz
Why do you feel this strongly about Los Angeles lately?
- JRJoe Rogan
There's too many people here to-
- JDJoey Diaz
I've seen you make a turn very ... Ever since the Houston trip, you've been a different person.
- JRJoe Rogan
Well, I've been thinking about it for quite a while. I've been thinking about leaving LA for a while 'cause I think- I don't- this is just my- my- my feeling. I don't think this is a healthy way to live. I don't think it's good for your brain. I really don't. I think people-
- JDJoey Diaz
Which part of it?
- JRJoe Rogan
The people that live here, like...I wonder if it's a coincidence that so many people that live in cities have, like, um... It's like cities are always Democratic, right? Almost always. Cities are rarely Republican. Isn't that weird? Like, I don't know. I mean, is Houston like that? That's a pretty big city. Dallas is a pretty big city. But I think they might be blue. I think the cities might be blue, and then the states are all, you know, the, the surrounding areas red.
- BRBrian Redban
Me and Jamie grew up red.
- JRJoe Rogan
I wonder... But I always used to think that that was because they were smarter. I just think that they were more educated, so they were more likely to be Democrats. Because I, I, my family was Democrats growing up, and I always felt like that was, like, the, the people who were really interested in freedom of speech, really interested in education, really interested in welfare and making, making programs for poor people and prison reform. They didn't want, they didn't want the death penalty. They wanted you to have the right to choose. That's what it was always to me. So why the fuck are they all, like, lumped up in cities? Like, what is that? It's because that's where all the universities are? But there's some universities are in, you know, in the middle of nowhere too. It's weird. It's weird how cities are like... Like, if you just... Forget if you had a, a dog in the fight. If just looking at people, it's odd that these big giant clumps are almost always they lean Democrat. It's weird. And then when shit like what's going on now happens, where you have violent reactions on a regular basis. Like, on a regular basis, there's riots. On a regular basis, there's crazy shit going on in Portland and Seattle. They're trying to burn federal buildings. This isn't rare. This is like every day. We're totally accustomed to it. Have you, have you noticed? You see a fucking looting and a riot and a building on fire on TV, you don't even flinch. You don't even flinch. That used to be a big deal, right? Remember, like, the Waco days? That was a big fucking deal. There was a standoff with the feds and a compound, and there was a guy who thought he was Jesus who was fucking everybody's wife, and they had guns. And you're like, "Holy shit."
- JDJoey Diaz
Waco was fucked up.
- JRJoe Rogan
It was fucked up.
- JDJoey Diaz
What year was Waco? '94, '95?
- JRJoe Rogan
Well, Hicks, Hicks was alive, because Hicks talked about it on stage, so it had to be pre-9... I think Hicks died in like '93, in that area. It was like Hicks and Kinison died within a couple of years of each other. So it had to be-
- JDJoey Diaz
It was Ha- it was Waco and then the Oklahoma City bombing-
- JRJoe Rogan
Yep.
- JDJoey Diaz
... which blew our fucking minds.
- JRJoe Rogan
Waco, '93, okay.
- JDJoey Diaz
'93.
- JRJoe Rogan
So-
- JDJoey Diaz
And then '94, '95 was the Oklahoma City bombings, which really fucked with me that week. I snorted a lot of coke.
- JRJoe Rogan
The Oklahoma City bombings are very interesting.
- JDJoey Diaz
Very interesting that week.
- JRJoe Rogan
Very interesting. There's a lot of weird stuff there.
- JDJoey Diaz
That's April 19th, 1995. I was still living in Boulder.
- JRJoe Rogan
Do you see that building? Look at the building. There's people to this day that don't believe that that was just a car filled with some sort of explosive that did that.
- BRBrian Redban
Damn.
- JDJoey Diaz
The most... thing I remember that fucked with me-
- JRJoe Rogan
They say it's too uniform.
- JDJoey Diaz
It was a daycare on the basement.
- JRJoe Rogan
Oh.
- JDJoey Diaz
That's what destroyed me that week. And I remember I bought a big batch of coke and I cut it and I was trying to sell it, and I did the whole bag in four fucking days just watching the coverage on this. Ugh. Like I was just-
- 16:13 – 19:27
Pandemic governance, lack of health messaging, and collapsing public trust
- JRJoe Rogan
Well, this is what, this is what-
- JDJoey Diaz
This is what bothers me.
- JRJoe Rogan
... what's sad. What's sad is, I mean, we, now we know. We didn't have a plan if everything went sideways like this, and you can't... Like, governors and mayors, it's their fault, right? But it's not their fault, because really, get... That fucking job is a ridiculous job in a pandemic. Like, all of a sudden, there's a new problem that's presented with you. You don't have the resources to fix it. People are not gonna listen. They're gonna wanna party, they're gonna wanna still go out, they're gonna do... And you're in this situation where, you know, a, a large percentage, uh, it didn't turn out to be as bad as we thought it was, but they thought it was gonna be a large percentage of our population could possibly die. And you don't have the resources, and what do you do? And governors, even though they, they are in that position, they're in that position 'cause they got elected. They're not in that position 'cause they passed a battery of tests and show that they know exactly how to respond in any given circumstance. They were charismatic. They had the right money behind them. They said the right things. They backed the right bills. And then you become a mayor, and then you become a governor. But it doesn't mean you know what to do if things go sideways and no one knows what to do. And the fact that they were always getting those checks, they're always getting those checks. No matter what happened, no matter what shut down, they kept getting those government checks. And they told all these other people they couldn't work. Like, you can't... That's not a plan. That's not a sustainable plan. You can't tell people, "You can't work, but I'm gonna keep getting paid, and I'm gonna tell you when you can go back to work again." Because people are gonna go, "Fuck you." Like, you can't just keep everything shut down for five months. That is California. I, I don't know what the proper response would have been. I don't know. But this wasn't it. This is, wasn't the best case scenario. And again, not a fucking word about your health. Not a word about taking vitamin D. Not a word about exercise. Not a word about drink water. Not a word about cut out sugar. Not a word about, "Use this as an opportunity to lose weight. We have to up our metabolic health. We have to be... We have to take vitamins. We have to be better about our health." Not one word! Everything's, "Wear a mask," and, "You can't do this," and, "You can't do that. Don't open this and don't open that."And look, they weren't prepared. That's all it is. They're not bad people. Like, people think that they wanted to sabotage the, the state or sabotage the city. I'm sure Garcetti and Newsom are nice guys. They, they probably are fine to hang out with. The, the problem was nobody was ready. Nobody knew what the fuck this was.
- JDJoey Diaz
I can't hang out with Garcetti.
- JRJoe Rogan
(laughs)
- JDJoey Diaz
(laughs)
He says, he says Los Angelinos too much. Leave it alone, all right?
- JRJoe Rogan
No, he's just, Angelenos.
- JDJoey Diaz
Angelinos.
- JRJoe Rogan
(laughs)
- JDJoey Diaz
He drives me fucking crazy. Newsom, Newsom looks like you could smoke a joint with him-
- JRJoe Rogan
Maybe.
- JDJoey Diaz
... and talk to him and he'll go, "You're right. I fucked up." But Garcetti's too... What about the fucking DA's husband is getting charged with assault because-
- JRJoe Rogan
What? When happened?
- JDJoey Diaz
Jackie Lacey's husband is getting charged with a misdemeanor assault because when they went to his house to protest, that brother pulled out a piece.
Did he really?
And said, "Get the fuck away from my door." And they took a picture of him, and they charged him with misdemeanor whatever, assault. The DA's husband.
My God.
It's just been, uh, you know, a real-
- JRJoe Rogan
The, uh, mayor of... Or the head of police of Seattle just quit.
- JDJoey Diaz
Yeah, that motherfucker tapped.
Yeah.
He sent the letter out.
- JRJoe Rogan
It's a lady. No, it's a lady.
- JDJoey Diaz
And I can't... Yeah. She sent our-
'Cause those cuts, man.
She sent the letter out.
That's a, what, 4 million, $8 million?
- 19:27 – 22:50
Crime spikes, helpless institutions, and Joey’s “press 2 for Spanish” hack
- JRJoe Rogan
Well, y- you know, the cops, they see the writing on the wall for whatever reason. People decide they hate cops now. It's... Look, there's bad people in every fucking job. You know, the problem with being a bad cop is, it's, it, it can, uh, it can ruin a person's entire life, ruin the life of a family. When you see someone abuse someone like that, like what we saw, it's natural to get upset. We all got upset, but it's not every cop. And I think that's a crazy way of looking at things, and they're figuring that out right now in New York. And New York has record crime, man.
- JDJoey Diaz
New York is off, going off the fucking hook.
- JRJoe Rogan
My friend, John Joseph, you know, he, he lives in New York. He's always sending me updates. You know-
- JDJoey Diaz
I'd love to fucking change.
- JRJoe Rogan
It's crazy.
- JDJoey Diaz
Crazy.
- JRJoe Rogan
And John's never left. He's be... You know, he's the lead singer of the Cro-Mags. Hardcore dude, does triathlons and shit. He's not going anywhere. You're not kicking him out. But he's... You know, he's, he sends me these updates on crime, and nobody gives a fuck. It's crazy. It's like these guys, uh, uh, I mean, I mean the criminals, they don't give a fuck. They're getting, they're getting wild.
- JDJoey Diaz
They're stealing catalytic converters in my neighborhood.
Yeah.
Catalytic converters are going like fucking hot cakes now, okay?
They're so crazy.
I've thought of stealing crazy shit.
- JRJoe Rogan
How much does that worth?
- JDJoey Diaz
When I was doing coke, I was thinking about bringing it into the White House, shit like that. But who would rob a fucking catalytic converter right off the street? They melt them down to platinum, they sell it, and that's how they're making a living.
- JRJoe Rogan
Jesus.
- JDJoey Diaz
Studio City the last week, they've been hitting neighborhoods so if you park on the street, they clip your catalytic converter.
But it's great. Everyone has Nest cams now and home security cameras, so, like, next door has become my new fetish of just watching people's home security of, like, people walking in the neighborhood doing nothing.
- JRJoe Rogan
Hmm.
- JDJoey Diaz
That's crazy.
Yeah, but I'm gonna tell you something.
This guy looks suspicious. (laughs)
Let me tell you guys a fact. Our friend's martial arts school got robbed the other night.
- JRJoe Rogan
Yeah? What'd they steal?
- JDJoey Diaz
She c- caught it on camera. She dialed 911. They put her on hold for an hour.
What?
So you're dead. You're dead, buddy. You're dead.
Always call the non-emergency line, by the way.
And always press two.
(laughs)
And always press two, and you want the Spanish, they pick up quicker. So you fucking unemployment dummies that haven't gotten unemployment.
- 22:50 – 26:30
Bourbon, tooth-pulling, and doctors who used drugs: Joey’s wild medical tales
- JDJoey Diaz
That tastes tremendous, by the way. I don't know who made that, what it is.
- JRJoe Rogan
Buffalo Trace, it's the shit.
- JDJoey Diaz
That is fucking delicious.
It is great.
Fucking delicious.
- JRJoe Rogan
Yeah, it's very good. It's American.
- JDJoey Diaz
If I didn't have to drive, I'd have nine more.
- JRJoe Rogan
This shit is older than America. They, they... This company started in 1773.
- JDJoey Diaz
That is fucking delicious.
Where they out of?
Huh?
- JRJoe Rogan
The, uh, Kentucky.
- JDJoey Diaz
Ah.
- JRJoe Rogan
Buffalo Trace.
- JDJoey Diaz
Christ. You do two more of those, then you gotta break out-
- JRJoe Rogan
They used to make, they used to make booze during the, uh, when, when it was illegal.
- JDJoey Diaz
(clears throat)
- JRJoe Rogan
They did it for medicinal reasons. I didn't know that they had a weed scam, like they have a weed scam today, they used to have a booze scam. Same thing. You could distill whiskey for medicinal purposes, like a doctor could prescribe it. Like, "Brian, you need a drink." Like, "Whew. Thanks, doc." You go to the doctor and cut your script-
- JDJoey Diaz
Here.
- JRJoe Rogan
... for some whiskey, I guess. Which... What the fuck did they use whiskey for, for medicinal purposes?
- JDJoey Diaz
Having fun.
Fuck, I used to fucking drink... I used to drink Jack and pull my teeth out.
- JRJoe Rogan
Ugh.
- JDJoey Diaz
What?
When I didn't have a... When I didn't have insurance, when I was a young comic-
- JRJoe Rogan
Oh, God. Oh, if you had a toothache?
- JDJoey Diaz
... if I had a toothache on the way home, I'd stop and get a little pint of Jack, do shots, gargle with it, and work the tooth. A couple bumps-
- JRJoe Rogan
There's something about-
- JDJoey Diaz
... to numb the head, and you're fucking good to go. I used to... I, um... It was terrible.
- JRJoe Rogan
Something about losing your teeth that's, like, extra creepy.
- 26:30 – 29:55
Politics is rigged: Joey’s childhood view of municipal corruption and money influence
- JRJoe Rogan
Joey, what do you, what do you think happens to the country?
- JDJoey Diaz
Me?
- JRJoe Rogan
Yeah. How does this, in, when you look at it, how does this even out?
- JDJoey Diaz
Listen, first of all, I'm gonna be as honest as I can with you. I don't know what red means and what blue means. I've never... I grew up hanging out with guys that were Democrats. I ripped signs down as a kid for people. I did all that political dirty shit as a kid. And guess what? By the age of 13, I saw the theft at the municipal level.
- JRJoe Rogan
Hmm.
- JDJoey Diaz
I couldn't imagine the thievery at the presidential, the senatorial level, and the governor level. I couldn't imagine what the thievery was, okay? I saw it firsthand as a child. I was involved with it. I saw the payoffs. I went to Long Island with this family. I saw all this shit.
- JRJoe Rogan
Mm.
- JDJoey Diaz
I saw how things got done, you know. So I lost my faith in it.
- JRJoe Rogan
Mm.
- JDJoey Diaz
Like I don't really believe it and I think it's all a bunch of bullshit. Uh, Joe Rogan's running for president. I got a drug that is gonna hook people, is gonna fuck people up. I donate $5 million to Joe Rogan. Joe Rogan makes a few calls and gets that drug passed. And every year I donate $5 million to Joe Rogan. That's how the game is played.
- JRJoe Rogan
It's a little more complicated than that, but-
- JDJoey Diaz
It's... But that's in the same fucking neighborhood, my friend.
- JRJoe Rogan
Yeah, it's in the same neighborhood. You, you're right.
- JDJoey Diaz
It's in the same fucking neighborhood.
- JRJoe Rogan
No, I'm agreeing with you.
- JDJoey Diaz
You buy yourself into this.
- JRJoe Rogan
Yeah.
- JDJoey Diaz
So you know what? As far as politics, I never trusted it, so dis- disclaim me as a politician. I'm talking about as a human being, I see a lot of despair, I see a lot of fear. I see, uh... You know, yesterday somebody put a thing up and they said that they shut the clubs down in San Diego. And I go, "Thank fucking God." And a lot of people said shit to me and I'm like, "I'm not saying because of that. I'm saying because there's social despair." I think that if you're in a parking lot doing comedy and the guy just went home and his wife broke up with him, and all of a sudden he checks the mail, he's losing the house, and he gets in his car to go for a ride... You know how many farmers markets do people get hit at with cars? Especially lately. People have been running through people lately. I don't want to see some guy run through a parking lot in La Jolla and hit a bunch of people watching a comic or com-... Right now is not a time to do comedy. You know what? People want to laugh, but, uh, their, their, their, their moral compass is off. We're confused. Do we wear a mask? Do we not have to wear a mask? Is there a disease? Am I gonna get unemployment? Am I gonna get evicted? There's a lot of things going on in people's minds. You know, people snap on a daily basis just getting caught on the 405. About, you know, I expect a huge amount of people losing it. You gotta be well-grounded.
- JRJoe Rogan
Yes.
- JDJoey Diaz
Thank God I do copy you. I get on, I get up in the morning, I do some shit, I do two bong hits and I get on a mountain bike. I can't hike, but I get on a mountain bike-
- JRJoe Rogan
Same.
- JDJoey Diaz
... and I go all the way to Coldwater.
- JRJoe Rogan
Beautiful.
- JDJoey Diaz
And I come back and I get vitamin D and then I wash my pussy.
- JRJoe Rogan
Ooh.
- JDJoey Diaz
And then I do what I gotta go do. So I get all that shit out of the way. I don't watch no TV. I don't want to hear it no more.
- JRJoe Rogan
Just-
- JDJoey Diaz
You put COVID, anything, World News Tonight is the number one watched show. Why? Because they're just selling you shit.
- JRJoe Rogan
Disasters.
- JDJoey Diaz
They're just selling you disaster.
- 29:55 – 33:04
Comedy withdrawal and the lost ritual of going on stage
- JDJoey Diaz
I don't watch it. The TV wasn't allowed in my house till 6:00, now it's at 7:00. And then, uh, I don't watch Jeopardy or Game of Fortune.
- JRJoe Rogan
(laughs)
- JDJoey Diaz
That shit fucks me up because it makes me feel too old. Remember when I'd call for you? I'd call for you at 7:15.
- JRJoe Rogan
Yeah.
- JDJoey Diaz
(Knocks on table) "Who is it?" "It's Joey. I'm here to call for Joe." "Hold on one second. Come in." "How you doing, Mrs. Rogan?" "How you doing, Joey? Mrs. Rogan, shh, shh, hold on." And she's watching Jeopardy.So, when I was a kid, if you watched Jeopardy, you were an old person.
- JRJoe Rogan
(laughs)
- JDJoey Diaz
So, every time Jeopardy comes on now, I get pissed off.
- JRJoe Rogan
(laughs)
- JDJoey Diaz
I'm like, "What the fuck am I doing home?"
- JRJoe Rogan
(laughs)
- JDJoey Diaz
Because when Jeopardy comes on at 7 o'clock, you and I are getting ready to go on stage.
- JRJoe Rogan
That's a good show though. That's a good show.
- JDJoey Diaz
I know it's a good show. I'm, I don't, I, I get like one answer per show.
- JRJoe Rogan
Right? (laughs)
- JDJoey Diaz
It doesn't matter. Yeah, I'm a dumb fuck. But, what I'm saying to you is, for the last 30 years, you and I at 7 o'clock, a certain adrenaline goes into our body. And Red Band included.
- JRJoe Rogan
You mean get ready to perform?
- JDJoey Diaz
Get ready to perform.
- JRJoe Rogan
Yeah, for sure.
- JDJoey Diaz
At 7 o'clock something would happen to me that it would change. I'd go from being a dad, husband-
- JRJoe Rogan
Get ramped up.
- JDJoey Diaz
... and all that shit-
- JRJoe Rogan
Talk getting ramped up.
- JDJoey Diaz
... to being a murderer. (laughs)
- JRJoe Rogan
Yeah.
- JDJoey Diaz
I'm going down to The Comedy Store.
- JRJoe Rogan
Yeah. Yeah.
- JDJoey Diaz
I gotta go sharpen the sword. You get what I'm saying? 7 o'clock you start thinking about new things, you know, the toilet paper-
- JRJoe Rogan
(laughs)
- JDJoey Diaz
... fucking, you know, all this shit. You write it down, you take a shower.
- JRJoe Rogan
(laughs)
- 33:04 – 39:11
Joey’s path to the Comedy Store: crime vs comedy, Mitzi Shore, and “war” Tuesdays
- JDJoey Diaz
I feel my whole time at The Comedy Store, which is 23 years, was pretty fucking good. You know, I didn't come out here to do anything. I came out here... I was a criminal and comedy won. You know, I used to be a cr- I was a criminal and a comic, and comedy won, it beat it.
- JRJoe Rogan
Yeah, but I always knew-
- JDJoey Diaz
Right?
- JRJoe Rogan
... Joey, your, your thing was always that you had come from a very unsteady, unsteady base. And you could tell. You were like a loving guy, but you had to get to know you. You had to, you gotta, you had to get through you.
- JDJoey Diaz
Yeah.
- JRJoe Rogan
And then, and then you were a really loving guy, but there was this like the bridge you had to cross, but I knew a lot of people like you. I knew, I knew people like you. Not, not as funny as you, but I knew people that were like brilliant but crazy in the sort of same sort of way, and it was always the same thing. It was always like their childhood was all fucked up or there was... so there was a mi- a missing there, there's some shit that goes wrong there. And when you develop like that, when you grow like that in like such a chaotic experience like yours, there's... this is, you know, it's hard. It's harder.
- JDJoey Diaz
You live-
- JRJoe Rogan
But when you get through, you get through with gifts. That's what's interesting about it. It's like it's harder for you than a person that had like your normal Norman Locke, R- Rockwell mom and pop sort of a life. It's harder for someone like you. It's much more emotionally difficult. You, you go through much more want for, uh, for love. There's... you're not... you don't, you don't feel support, you don't feel stable, and you grow up like that and it's, it's very hard to right yourself as an adult, 'cause all of us come out of our childhood, which we don't really have any control over who our parents are, and we don't... we have very little control over our experiences when we're kids. But we come out of that shit shaking, like when we get onto the road finally, like not everybody comes onto that road with the same amount of stability. Like some people come on that road and they're like, "My mom was awesome. My dad and my mom love each other. Yay!" And they're just going down the road. And other people are like, "Who am I? My uncle fucked me and I'm on coke and I'm only 15," and that... there's a lot of those people out there too. And it's like a matter of like righting it, a matter of like getting it stable, a matter of like getting your life in a position where you feel like you, you can make good decisions and you're in control of it. And it's not the same for everybody, and I knew when I met you, you were a good guy. I know... I knew you were a good man.
- JDJoey Diaz
No, I knew that too. I knew-
- JRJoe Rogan
I knew right away.
- JDJoey Diaz
I didn't question that.
- JRJoe Rogan
But I knew you just-
- JDJoey Diaz
I just questioned how long I was gonna last here.
- JRJoe Rogan
You were distracting yourself with other shit.
- JDJoey Diaz
I, I didn't know how long I would last here. I thought this was just gonna be a, a fluke and I would end up in New York selling coke. And the story is that I became a regular. I broke the record. I became a regular within a month.
- JRJoe Rogan
Did you really?
- JDJoey Diaz
Yeah, I landed here January 29th.
- JRJoe Rogan
That's amazing.
- JDJoey Diaz
I became a regular February 19th on my 30-something birthday. So-
- JRJoe Rogan
Well, if Mitzi, Mitzi caught you at the right time-
- JDJoey Diaz
She caught me at the right time. And everybody kept saying to me, "Has Mitzi seen you?"
- JRJoe Rogan
That's amazing.
- JDJoey Diaz
"Has Mitzi seen you?" So I didn't really go through the whole thing. So now let's go back to that area. That area... that era was hard at the store. I had to follow Mooney every night and Dave Tyree and a bunch of crazy people after 11:00. It got crazy in there.
- JRJoe Rogan
Mm-hmm.
- JDJoey Diaz
And then Holtzman would go on and clean house and, you know, it was just a different... I saw the three different phases of the store.
- JRJoe Rogan
Yeah.
- JDJoey Diaz
Then we saw the other phase with that fucking Mutt LaRage and his little crew, and, and I didn't go there for seven years.And then came the Adam fucking era, which was pretty fucking goddamn special.
- BRBrian Redban
Pretty special.
- JDJoey Diaz
It got so special that it got overly special. Like, Tuesday nights were fucking just ... like, you had to go down there prepared for war.
- BRBrian Redban
(laughs)
- 39:11 – 46:05
Early acting chaos and why rappers (and some athletes) can act instantly
- BRBrian Redban
How did Stanhope lure you down here?
- JDJoey Diaz
I did New Years with him.
- BRBrian Redban
Where at?
- JDJoey Diaz
In Seattle, '96 to '97. He's like, "You're wasting your time up here." He goes, "You're ready." But I had worked with him, like, the time before that, so he's like, "I got bunk beds. You're wasting your time."
- BRBrian Redban
(laughs)
- JDJoey Diaz
And I go, "You know what? I gotta go down there to shoot a pilot anyway. CBS is paying me like 20 grand."
- BRBrian Redban
How'd they find you?
- JDJoey Diaz
Uh, Thanksgiving, the night before Thanksgiving in Seattle.
- BRBrian Redban
What were you doing?
- JDJoey Diaz
I was on stage at the-
- BRBrian Redban
And someone from CBS-
- JDJoey Diaz
... at The Underground.
- BRBrian Redban
... wanted you to do something?
- JDJoey Diaz
He was from Seattle.
- BRBrian Redban
Wow.
- JDJoey Diaz
And he went home for the holidays and I got off stage and the guy's like, "Listen, I've been looking for a guy like you for three weeks."
- BRBrian Redban
(laughs)
- JDJoey Diaz
"Can you read?" "Yeah." "Okay."
- BRBrian Redban
(laughs)
- JDJoey Diaz
"Meet me tomorrow. I'm gonna put you on tape. I got a pilot because we want you to be ..." The ... It was, it was really fucked up. They wanted my character to be Spanish, but they didn't want him to look Spanish.
- BRBrian Redban
Mmm.
- JDJoey Diaz
It was CBS's answer to NYPD Blue. It was a show called Bronx something, something. And I came down and I was the worst actor in the world.
- BRBrian Redban
(laughs)
- JDJoey Diaz
I started out with like 19 pages.
- BRBrian Redban
(gasps)
- JDJoey Diaz
All the cops and DAs would come into the bar and I would chitchat, give them information, sell shit. And every day that I went and rehearsed, every day they took a page out. (blows raspberry) Every day they took a page out. I went down there, by the time they shot the pilot, I had no lines. I just nodded. I was terrible.
- BRBrian Redban
Ugh.
- JDJoey Diaz
I was snorting coke. I never been to an acting class before.
- BRBrian Redban
Ugh.
- JDJoey Diaz
I was staying up till six in the morning, going there at eight. What's his name was the director.
- 46:05 – 53:17
COVID testing, Hollywood “bubbles,” and how productions try to restart safely
- JDJoey Diaz
You got another blunt for Young Uncle Joseph?
- BRBrian Redban
Yes, of course, I do.
- JDJoey Diaz
Thank you, brother.
- BRBrian Redban
You can have some of mine.
- JDJoey Diaz
No, I'm all right, 'cause that corona test was tremendous.
- JRJoe Rogan
I got one right here, Jimmy.
- JDJoey Diaz
Just that swab in your nose, I know she took things out of my nose that would need to figure out-
- JRJoe Rogan
We have to find out. Let's find out what's keeping you going, make sure everything's, everything's okay.
- JDJoey Diaz
I did the antibodies test, but then a dentist told me, she goes, "Joey, the antibodies is no good."
- JRJoe Rogan
The FDA approved one is good. It shows-
- JDJoey Diaz
Because-
- JRJoe Rogan
... whether or not you've had it.
- JDJoey Diaz
It's a respiratory illness.
- JRJoe Rogan
Yes.
- JDJoey Diaz
It shouldn't be in your blood, so that's what-
- JRJoe Rogan
Oh, well she-
- JDJoey Diaz
That's why she said ... That's why I did the swab, to be honest with you, and I didn't want to faint. I faint at the weirdest moments, Joe.
- JRJoe Rogan
Yeah, but that's not real. What- whatever she just said, that's not true.
- JDJoey Diaz
Okay, whatever.
- JRJoe Rogan
Like, it's-
- JDJoey Diaz
Who-
- JRJoe Rogan
It's in your blood for sure.
- JDJoey Diaz
Who gives a ... Who gives ... Everybody's faucing now. Who gives a fuck?
- JRJoe Rogan
No, they-
- BRBrian Redban
Where's the lighter?
- JRJoe Rogan
The best way to find out ... Right in front of you. Right in front of you.
- JDJoey Diaz
Thank you, brother.
- JRJoe Rogan
Right there. The best way to find out, apparently, is you draw blood, and then they do an analysis of the blood.
- JDJoey Diaz
Mm-hmm.
- JRJoe Rogan
But the, the pinprick is FDA approved, and the swab lets you know if you have, like, recent infections.
- 53:17 – 1:03:21
Elections, taxes, mail-in voting skepticism, and Joey’s Jersey machine-politics stories
- JRJoe Rogan
Biden announced Harris for VP.
- JDJoey Diaz
Okay.
- JRJoe Rogan
Kamala Harris, "A fearless fighter for the little guy. I have the country's finest public servants as my running mate." They might win. She's a powerful lady.
- BRBrian Redban
Can you click on her name?
- JRJoe Rogan
She's very good at talking. Yeah, she was that lady that, uh ... she got in- into it with Tulsi Gabbard (sighs) at the, uh, primaries.
- JDJoey Diaz
I don't know nothing about these people, Joe Rogan.
- JRJoe Rogan
Yeah.
- JDJoey Diaz
I know that Biden's a-
- JRJoe Rogan
One of them might be the vice president of the United States.
- JDJoey Diaz
... and I think that fucking, uh, Trump won the election on Saturday when he gave people money 'cause money talks and bullshit walks. If I get a check in the mail from Trump for 600, he bought my vote right now at this point in the-
- JRJoe Rogan
The thing about it is though, I don't think, uh ... I think it relies on the state paying 25%.
- BRBrian Redban
And the state, like, of California's bankrupt.
- JRJoe Rogan
States, like, don't have any money. Yeah, they're like, "We don't have any money, bro."
- JDJoey Diaz
What were you talking about the other day 50%? You had me almost scared to death.
- JRJoe Rogan
When you add up the state income tax with the federal income tax, it's- it's in the neighborhood of 54%.
- JDJoey Diaz
That's where it's gonna go into?
- JRJoe Rogan
With an increase, yes.
- JDJoey Diaz
All right.
- JRJoe Rogan
The increase that California wants to do? Look, they- they have tr- they're trying to figure out a way to buy their way out of some of the problems that we have. I get it. I don't know what the fuck they should do. I'm a moron. I shouldn't be the mayor or the governor. I am not gonna do it. It's not in my wheelhouse. I would not balance the budget. I would not ... I'm- I'm not a pay attentioner. (laughs) That's not me, man. I got things to do. I'm worried about space. All right? I'm not worried about your budget. But somebody has to do it and they have to do it right. And y- giving them more money is not gonna ... it's not gonna fix it. They need a fucking real plan. No one's telling us how to get out of this economically. No one's telling us how to get out of this healthwise.
- JDJoey Diaz
... everybody's bitching.
- JRJoe Rogan
Yeah.
- JDJoey Diaz
But this is the first time we've been caught with our pants then down.
- JRJoe Rogan
Yeah.
- JDJoey Diaz
I'm not mad at anybody. I can't really be mad at anybody because everybody got caught with their pants down. How we've handled it at times is kinda weird. It's kinda-
- JRJoe Rogan
It's not just that. It's not just that. We look vulnerable as a nation 'cause we handled it stupid. (laughs) We, we had a big giant surge again. It's like we were, uh, we were doing real well. Everything was trending down, and then we have a big giant surge again. Now people are going out. Now places that weren't getting it are getting it again. (exhales loudly) We didn't do such a good job. It's not... You know, the... And the problem is, if the country's locked up, and we basically are, m- a big percentage of everybody's locked up, and we're economically fucked, and we're scared to do things, so we're like probably not that healthy. We're not, not as healthy as we normally are. And there's not as much money and people aren't working well. Well, what? This is not a strong country then. Like the, the country's only strong if everything's strong, like the economy's strong, the military's strong, the government's strong. When the economy's fucked and the people are unhealthy, like that is, that's the backbone of the whole country. This is a vulnerable country. That's where it gets weird. We don't ever wanna think that. We're like, "Oh, we don't have to worry about that anymore." But of course we do. That's history. History is countries taking over countries. History is countries figuring out a ways to dominate other countries. Who knows what they're doing today to each other? I mean, we hear about like Russian interference. Who knows what kind of fucking viruses we have on our computers?
- JDJoey Diaz
Oh, that mail-in fucking thing-
- JRJoe Rogan
(laughs)
- JDJoey Diaz
... is gonna be a party and a half.
- JRJoe Rogan
(laughs)
- JDJoey Diaz
That is the biggest scam in the fucking world. That is the biggest fucking scam in the world. Already the post office is running fucking behind. Nevermind all those ballots. That's a scam and a half. That's a scam and a half, and it's terrible.
- 1:03:21 – 1:16:50
Power, policing, and Joey’s interrogation warfare (plus one-shoe psychological torture)
- JRJoe Rogan
There's something about people who have power, whether it's you're the mayor or the governor or you're the narcos or you're a cop, something about people having that kind of power over your life like that, with just a finger on the trigger, it's too much for most people to handle. It's too much. Most people can't handle it. That's, that's what you're saying, dude. Most people should not have the ability to just shoot you. (laughs) You can't shoot them but they can shoot you. If you don't listen, they can shoot you. If you're running away, they can shoot you. You come at them with a taser, they can shoot you. Like ... (exhales)
- BRBrian Redban
They need to, like, re- like, make a freeze gun, where you can just freeze them.
- JRJoe Rogan
That's not a bad idea.
- BRBrian Redban
(laughs)
- JDJoey Diaz
Joe Rogan, nobody could (laughs) call a cop's life-
- BRBrian Redban
It's just too dark.
- JDJoey Diaz
... until you're a fucking cop.
- JRJoe Rogan
Yeah, it's too dark to understand what that job entails.
- JDJoey Diaz
You don't ... It's too dark to understand the entails.
- JRJoe Rogan
Yeah.
- JDJoey Diaz
You know why I started going to jujitsu? So I could watch the UFCs and not feel guilty.
- BRBrian Redban
(laughs)
- JDJoey Diaz
Because I can't ... Nothing bothers me more when I see a blogger or an announcer that's never done a jumping jack.
- JRJoe Rogan
Mm.
- JDJoey Diaz
And he's trying to cover the UFC. Nothing bothers me more than that. So, I want you to understand, I grew up with guys that were cops. I talked to them. I saw how they had to blow steam off because of the things they saw. Yeah, they used their power, they fucked around, they were all bad lieutenants if you want to call it. But the job itself, unless you're doing it, man, it's weird.
- JRJoe Rogan
It's so weird.
- JDJoey Diaz
It's a weird job. Do, do I-
- JRJoe Rogan
It's ... You're d- you live in a different world than everybody else.
- JDJoey Diaz
Do I appreciate poli- listen, I've been arrested, how many times have I been arrested?
- JRJoe Rogan
A million.
- JDJoey Diaz
I never had a fuck-
- JRJoe Rogan
You've been arrested a million times.
- BRBrian Redban
A million point one.
- JDJoey Diaz
I've never had a problem... I've never had a problem with a cop. I even had a cop pull over at a Chinese restaurant one time and let me get food handcuffed 'cause I hadn't eaten all day.
- JRJoe Rogan
Well, you've got good cops and you're a good guy.
- JDJoey Diaz
Okay. And that's number three.
- JRJoe Rogan
And you, you, you charmed them.
- JDJoey Diaz
Number three, I've never said the word pig on any podcast. When I went to jail, I went to jail on my own accord. It was my problem.
- JRJoe Rogan
Yeah.
- JDJoey Diaz
I've never given a cop a problem. When they interrogated me, oh, I'll light you on fire. (Finger snaps) If you wanna get interrogated-
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