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Joe Rogan Experience #1525 - Tim Dillon

Tim Dillon is a comedian, tour guide, and host. His podcast “The Tim Dillon Show” is available on YouTube & Apple Podcasts. @TimDillonShow

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Aug 14, 20202h 16mWatch on YouTube ↗

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  1. 0:010:55

    COVID screening absurdity and the restaurant shutdown reality

    1. JR

      Tim Dillon, fresh off a COVID test. How you feeling, buddy? How's the nose?

    2. TD

      Feeling good. You know, when I go out with friends, uh, to restaurants in LA, they, you know, everybody gets the gun.

    3. JR

      Yeah.

    4. TD

      The temperature gun to your head. But you know what's fucked up? A lot of my friends, they don't do it, they do it to me. And I'm like, "I guess I'm the only one that looks sick." 'Cause they look at me and they go, "Get him, get him." And then I ask other people, I'm like, "Were you hit on the way in?" They're like, "No."

    5. JR

      What?

    6. TD

      So I'm like... Yeah, it's weird. It's, like, arbitrary the way they do it.

    7. JR

      They're supposed to get everybody.

    8. TD

      I know.

    9. JR

      Maybe they think, like, you're a little bit overweight-

    10. TD

      Yeah.

    11. JR

      ... and you could die.

    12. TD

      They're like, "We don't want him dying at BOA Steakhouse-"

    13. JR

      Mmm.

    14. TD

      "... in West Hollywood."

    15. JR

      Oh, you could eat outside of BOA.

    16. TD

      They don't want me falling on a TikToker.

    17. JR

      BOA's an outside place, you could-

    18. TD

      BOA's all outside, yeah.

    19. JR

      You could eat there.

    20. TD

      All outside.

    21. JR

      Oh.

    22. TD

      Yeah.

    23. JR

      Those- those outside places are, they're- they're doing good.

    24. TD

      They're jammed.

    25. JR

      But the fucking inside places are doomed.

    26. TD

      They are doomed and they will not reopen, many of them.

    27. JR

      A lot of them.

    28. TD

      Yeah.

    29. JR

      Yeah.

    30. TD

      It's a big problem.

  2. 0:552:51

    When will LA reopen, and why the election could break the country

    1. JR

      Let me ask you this-

    2. TD

      Yeah.

    3. JR

      ... when do you think Los Angeles is gonna open up, back up again?

    4. TD

      Next spring.

    5. JR

      Wow. Like April?

    6. TD

      Well, I mean-

    7. JR

      May?

    8. TD

      ... it depends what this second wave does, right? If there is a second wave.

    9. JR

      Right.

    10. TD

      Does the... Do we get clobbered in the fall?

    11. JR

      Man.

    12. TD

      Or do we... I mean, by the time LA reopens, it's gonna be Terminator here.

    13. JR

      Don't you think that it's gonna be Terminator after November, no matter what we do?

    14. TD

      Probably.

    15. JR

      I feel like-

    16. TD

      Yeah.

    17. JR

      ... with all of the fucking tension, like there was a story in Chicago, right? They thought it was a 15-year-old girl who was shot by the police. It turned out to be a 20-year-old man and he was shot, but he was still alive.

    18. TD

      How did they get that wrong?

    19. JR

      The fucking telephone game.

    20. TD

      Right.

    21. JR

      You know that game.

    22. TD

      Yeah.

    23. JR

      Doesn't work.

    24. TD

      It's crazy.

    25. JR

      So then everybody goes crazy and goes looting.

    26. TD

      Yeah.

    27. JR

      So, like, people are looking for an excuse to go crazy.

    28. TD

      If Trump wins again-

    29. JR

      Yeah, it's gonna burn.

    30. TD

      Not only that, it's like-

  3. 2:516:40

    Celebrity activism, performative politics, and ‘relevance’ as a career move

    1. TD

      Like, w- everybody can't be a political pundit. Like, my aunt cannot be writing, uh, about trade-

    2. JR

      Yeah.

    3. TD

      ... on Facebook.

    4. JR

      I think we should just leave it all to Alyssa Milano.

    5. TD

      Yeah, well she's-

    6. JR

      (laughs) I'm looking forward to her tweets in November.

    7. TD

      Yeah.

    8. JR

      I'm just gonna follow all that.

    9. TD

      Yeah. Yeah. Well, she was like...

    10. JR

      (laughs)

    11. TD

      (laughs) She's got a podcast. We know that.

    12. JR

      She's fine.

    13. TD

      Yeah. I mean, it's relevance, right? They're all trying to be relevant.

    14. JR

      Everybody's relevant.

    15. TD

      Every, b- like, they have to be-

    16. JR

      Just, you have to get your opinion out there, it's super important.

    17. TD

      Yeah. And that's the way to be relevant now is to just be, you know, like, be political all day, every day.

    18. JR

      With that shift, we go from actor to activist.

    19. TD

      Yeah.

    20. JR

      All in.

    21. TD

      Very interesting.

    22. JR

      As soon as the fucking calls stop coming in, you're like, "All right, I'm an activist."

    23. TD

      What's so funny is we know, because we're, like, in the, in- in this thing that getting good at this, whether it's comedy or being an actor, it's very tough. You're not spending your life thinking about other people. Let's just be real.

    24. JR

      (laughs)

    25. TD

      For the most part. You're just not.

    26. JR

      Yeah, you-

    27. TD

      I didn't.

    28. JR

      You're thinking about your career.

    29. TD

      Yeah, you're thinking about your career.

    30. JR

      Yeah.

  4. 6:408:52

    Cancel culture vs. right-wing conspiracies: entering the QAnon rabbit hole

    1. JR

      I don't like to say this in generalizations 'cause I don't think... I don't believe in generalizations, but-

    2. TD

      Right.

    3. JR

      ... I think-

    4. TD

      I love them.

    5. JR

      I do too. They're fun.

    6. TD

      I need them.

    7. JR

      They're, they're the best for comedy.

    8. TD

      Yeah. I mean, we need them. Yeah.

    9. JR

      With- without co-... Without generalizations, comedy kind of sucks.

    10. TD

      Yeah.

    11. JR

      But more people on the left are doing this than people on the right.

    12. TD

      Yeah.

    13. JR

      I don't see that many people on the right. I see a few, but I don't see-

    14. TD

      Right.

    15. JR

      ... as many people on the right calling for people to get canceled forever. But the people on the left-

    16. TD

      Yeah.

    17. JR

      ... are like, "Burn their house, burn them to the ground."

    18. TD

      Well, the right will do it. The right... I mean, the QAnon thing is kind of a way they're doing it, where they're like, "David Spade's got an ankle bracelet on, and-

    19. JR

      (laughs)

    20. TD

      ... he's in jail, and Trump's put everyone under house arrest." Like, they're in this other thing, where it's like, "Oh, you guys have left the planet-

    21. JR

      (laughs)

    22. TD

      ... and you..." Like, so ex-

    23. JR

      Explain p-... to people who don't know-

    24. TD

      Yeah.

    25. JR

      ... what- what this QAnon shit is.

    26. TD

      Well, the QAnon stuff is like, the- there is this idea that there's an intelligence dissemination operation happening, meaning behind the scenes, high-level intelligence guys or military people are leaking information about a shadow war that we don't really see happening, and this shadow war involves Trump and the people on the side of lightness battling the, you know, these deep state, pedofil- cani- uh, pedophile cannibals. Like, I don't know why-

    27. JR

      Yeah.

    28. TD

      ... uh, like, I don't... never understood why they have to be cannibals, but apparent-

    29. JR

      I didn't know they were cannibals.

    30. TD

      They're... No, they're cannibals. They're eating children, and then they get the adrenochrome, and it keeps them young.

  5. 8:5218:07

    QAnon as a meaning-making game, and Trump as an instinctive performer

    1. JR

      Wh- Where do you get these drops?

    2. TD

      Where do you get them, 4Chan or something?

    3. JR

      4Chan.

    4. TD

      You get them, like, on 4Chan.

    5. JR

      Okay, but 4Chan is the best place in the world for trolls.

    6. TD

      It's... You... It's a lot of f-... Well, that's what maybe this is. This could be like a-

    7. JR

      That's what I'm saying.

    8. TD

      Yeah, it could be a high-level troll. Nobody knows 'cause it's bait. It has nuggets of truth-

    9. JR

      Right, right, right.

    10. TD

      ... just like anything else. Right?

    11. JR

      Yeah.

    12. TD

      It has nuggets of very real things. The government is shady as fuck. A lot of the elites are doing things, engaging in pedophilia and probably worse.

    13. JR

      Yeah.

    14. TD

      Like, I... Some of those kids on Epstein's Island probably did disappear. But the idea that like, that, that Trump is fighting this underground war and it's all about human traffick-... I just don't think that's borne out by the facts. Like, there's no facts to point. I mean, Trump was like friends with the Clintons for his whole life.

    15. JR

      Well, not only that. If Trump was doing it and not talking about it, it would be so out of character.

    16. TD

      Right. (laughs)

    17. JR

      Like, imagine this one thing that he's doing is the most noble thing that he's ever done, ever.

    18. TD

      Right, he's not mentioning it.

    19. JR

      The most selfless-

    20. TD

      (laughs)

    21. JR

      ... the most important, the most-

    22. TD

      Right.

    23. JR

      ... for humanity, and he's not even-

    24. TD

      Yeah.

    25. JR

      ... bringing it up. He's just secretly winking-

    26. TD

      Yeah.

    27. JR

      ... at all the Q people.

    28. TD

      Well, you know, and- and so everything he does, there's like a reason he does it, they say. Like when he wished Ghislaine Maxwell, he goes, "I wish her well."

    29. JR

      Yeah.

    30. TD

      Now the thing is, that's-

  6. 18:0722:04

    COVID information chaos, immune systems, and the homeless-as-workforce bit

    1. JR

      New York Times was saying today they think it's under-reported. They think that the COVID deaths are somewhere around 200,000.

    2. TD

      Yeah, I mean, listen. I mean, it was-

    3. JR

      I think it was New York Times. Might not.

    4. TD

      At a certain point, you just, you have to stop reading.

    5. JR

      Mm-hmm.

    6. TD

      Because everything you read every hour contradicts the last thing you've read.

    7. JR

      Yeah.

    8. TD

      And they're like, "It's airborne." "No, it's not." "Yes, it is." "No, it's not." I'm like...

    9. JR

      (laughs)

    10. TD

      What do I do?

    11. JR

      You can get it off surfaces. No, you can't.

    12. TD

      Just kill me. Like, I don't know what's happening. I, I-

    13. JR

      Well, they don't know, that's the problem.

    14. TD

      Yeah.

    15. JR

      Is they're, they're making it up on the go because they're getting new data all the time. They're constantly getting new information, new studies, new things show up. But they don't react to all the studies. Like, one of the big ones is the fact that it dies in sunlight.So-

    16. TD

      Right.

    17. JR

      ... if that's the case, well, you should let people do all sorts of outdoor activities.

    18. TD

      These studies, when you read about the studies, they're like, "We sampled a certain amount of people and this is what we found."

    19. JR

      Mm-hmm.

    20. TD

      And it's like, that's not n- necessarily indicative-

    21. JR

      Right.

    22. TD

      ... of anything.

    23. JR

      Well, it's, it's information.

    24. TD

      It's better than nothing.

    25. JR

      Yeah, and it depends on who's reading the study and what their bias is and what they're trying to say. Um, but, uh, they're, there's, it's clear that they're trying to figure this out. I mean, obviously-

    26. TD

      Yeah.

    27. JR

      ... it's only been around for six, seven months and we're-

    28. TD

      They say that the people-

    29. JR

      ... real confused.

    30. TD

      ... that are really reacting to it, uh, in many cases, a lot, like, for whatever reason, their immune system has not had as many prior experiences with coronaviruses. So if your-

  7. 22:0424:59

    Cities unraveling: NY crime, policing vacuums, and de Blasio as a symbol

    1. TD

      New York is a nightmare.

    2. JR

      I've heard.

    3. TD

      Like, New York, the crime is skyrocketing.

    4. JR

      Mm-hmm.

    5. TD

      And, you know, there's just, m- you know, the, the, the, the, the relationship between the police and the people is very fraught and it's very ha- I mean, it's like, so the police are like, "Fuck it, we don't wanna do anything," and you, like, y- you understand. A lot of... They're just like, "Listen, we're gonna sit back." And then now a lot of areas are just being policed by cr- criminal elements, by gangs and stuff like that. 'Cause that's what happens in a power vacuum.

    6. JR

      Yeah.

    7. TD

      You know, if you get rid of the cops... I'm not saying they shouldn't be reformed or they shouldn't have all these new regulations, but, like, if you defund them or get rid of them, somebody steps into that vacuum.

    8. JR

      Yeah.

    9. TD

      And it's gonna be usually a gang, the mafia, a crime syndicate, whatever.

    10. JR

      Dude, de Blasio.

    11. TD

      Not good.

    12. JR

      If you think your mayor is bad... (laughs)

    13. TD

      De Blasio is a nightmare.

    14. JR

      He's like holding my beer.

    15. TD

      He's bad.

    16. JR

      He's the worst.

    17. TD

      He's bad.

    18. JR

      He eats pizza with a fork.

    19. TD

      And what's great is that- (laughs)

    20. JR

      (laughs) He does.

    21. TD

      Well, he does, yeah. What's great is that everyone hates him. Like, the left hates him-

    22. JR

      Yeah.

    23. TD

      ... and that, for different reasons, and then the right hates him.

    24. JR

      But even the Black Lives Matter people hate him-

    25. TD

      They all hate him.

    26. JR

      ... 'cause he's so pandering.

    27. TD

      What are they doing?

    28. JR

      He, look at them.

    29. TD

      Oh, God.

    30. JR

      Eating pizza with a fork.

  8. 24:5943:59

    Portland, ANTIFA, CHAZ/CHOP, and why chaos becomes addictive

    1. JR

      "No, peo-" Like, they had no idea. And then you... They were sitting down, you just saw them, like, sitting down, eating ice. I am 100% for police reform.

    2. TD

      100%.

    3. JR

      I'm, I'm 100%. I 100% believe there's too much police brutality.

    4. TD

      Too much.

    5. JR

      I am also 100% in, in the belief that there is a lot of people that are doing this and following this movement because, like we were talking about before with actors, it is the trendy thing to do.

    6. TD

      Social.

    7. JR

      And then, also, what you're seeing in, like, Portland and Seattle, you're seeing crazy white people trying to light government buildings on fire.

    8. TD

      Yeah. They, well, they think if they, if they bash the windows of Amazon, this is the beginning of the revolution.

    9. JR

      How-

    10. TD

      Right.

    11. JR

      ... is it in, at all connected to police brutality?

    12. TD

      It's crazy. It is not connected at all to police. It's just anarchy.

    13. JR

      Yeah.

    14. TD

      It's just chaos.

    15. JR

      Exactly.

    16. TD

      And when you unleash that... Like, it... In the beginning of this, like, listen, you burn down a Target, it was fine. I even laughed. I said, "Who gives a shit?"

    17. JR

      (laughs)

    18. TD

      It's in Minneapolis. Like, th- this happened in Minneapolis. So what? A Target gets hit in Minneapolis, the guy gets charged the next day, it's fine.

    19. JR

      Right.

    20. TD

      But when you unleash total chaos... You know more about violence than anybody. You can't control it.

    21. JR

      No.

    22. TD

      You can't direct it to the, to the targets that you think are right.

    23. JR

      It's also intoxicating and fun.

    24. TD

      Yeah. Right.

    25. JR

      Like, all those people that are involved in it, wearing masks, showing up every day.

    26. TD

      They're having a good time.

    27. JR

      They're giving their... It gives their life meaning.

    28. TD

      Right, it does.

    29. JR

      They're trying to beat the man.

    30. TD

      Right.

  9. 43:5946:41

    Billionaires, tech power, and Bill Gates ‘dimming the sun’ confusion

    1. JR

      Yeah, and, you know, now he's the devil. Now everybody's like, "Bill Gates wants to give me a microchip."

    2. TD

      Well, I don't think he's the devil, I just think people get weirdly uncomfortable when it's like billionaires want to do... Like Bill Gates was considering once shooting a missile of dust at the sun to help climate change. This is a r- a fact.

    3. JR

      What?

    4. TD

      Yes. So he was considering this-

    5. JR

      Wait a minute.

    6. TD

      ... and then people-

    7. JR

      Wait a minute.

    8. TD

      Yeah. Bill Gates-

    9. JR

      Where'd you read this?

    10. TD

      This is-

    11. JR

      What kind of dust?

    12. TD

      The um-

    13. JR

      Do you know how big the sun is?

    14. TD

      Yeah, but Bill Gates was considering shooting a missile full of dust at the sun. (clears throat) So it's like, now obviously people said to him, "Hey, not a good idea," and he relented, but when you have these Batman villain billionaires, not that they're evil but that they have a lot of money, they can do whatever they want, people get uncomfortable with just one guy saying, "This is the way it is and this is what you need." People just feel uncomfortable with that.

    15. JR

      You find that? Is that real?

    16. TD

      (clears throat) That's real, Joe.

    17. NA

      That's on the page this time.

    18. JR

      Could dimming the sun save the Earth? Bill Gates wants to spray millions of tons of dust into the stratosphere... Okay, that's different... To stop global warming, but critics fear it could trigger calamity.

    19. TD

      Yeah, this is-

    20. JR

      Yeah, that's not at the sun.

    21. TD

      But it's-

    22. JR

      What that is, is suspending particles in the atmosphere that are gonna act as like clouds-

    23. TD

      Understood-

    24. JR

      Yeah.

    25. TD

      ... but the reality is people get a little un-

    26. NA

      (laughs)

    27. TD

      They get a little uncomfortable when a billionaire from a lair is decided to start shooting dust into the atmosphere and, you know, where is... Where is d- Is there any democratic process here where anybody will ever have any say in anything ever again?

    28. JR

      I saw a meme-

    29. TD

      Or are we just gonna listen to Bezos and him do... And uh, they could do whatever they want?

    30. JR

      Well, it's hard to say because when you're that rich we listen anyway, because we figure-

  10. 46:4152:30

    Zuckerberg, China, and Facebook as the boomer QAnon + recipes machine

    1. TD

      Yeah, these guys are the new Rockefellers.

    2. JR

      Zuckerberg, Carnegie.

    3. TD

      And he's fucking really young. He's really young. By the way, speaks perfect Mandarin.

    4. JR

      Well he's got a girl who's Chinese, right?

    5. TD

      His wife. Yeah, is married. Jesus Christ. I don't know what he's doing. I'm not invited to his home.

    6. JR

      You're not? I'll get you in.

    7. TD

      I'd love to go.

    8. JR

      All you have to do is get your Facebook page over 700,000 followers.

    9. TD

      I'd love to go. I'd get banned from Facebook within an hour of being there.

    10. JR

      (laughs)

    11. TD

      I'd be taken away. I just, I'd just go up to him and go, "Can you get rid of my Aunt Kathleen please?"

    12. JR

      There's a crazy video of him-

    13. TD

      Yeah.

    14. JR

      ... in China and, uh, he's on a television show and he starts speaking in Mandarin and they go crazy. They can't believe he can do it and they're clapping and cheering.

    15. TD

      Interesting. Well, it takes very little to impress them, huh?

    16. JR

      Well they're just, they're stunned-

    17. TD

      He's just a white guy who's doing... Yeah.

    18. JR

      ... that here's the guy from Facebook speaking perfect Mandarin.

    19. TD

      Wow.

    20. JR

      But he's ready.

    21. TD

      That's comf- that's comforting by the way.

    22. JR

      Oh, he's gonna bring them all in.

    23. TD

      The head of, the head of Facebook is yucking it up with, you know, maybe our biggest enemy.

    24. JR

      Yeah.

    25. TD

      That's nice.

    26. JR

      He's gonna be super excited about New World Order. Give me some volume on this.

    27. NA

      (chinese) (laughs)

    28. TD

      Yeah what he's saying is, "We will destroy America." The translation is, "America will be a prison."

    29. JR

      We will send your government-

    30. TD

      Yeah.

  11. 52:3055:28

    Censorship, ‘witch doctor’ COVID clips, and the Wild West information era

    1. JR

      Oh. That's the thing that bothers me too about, like, whenever people talk about, uh, whether it's conspiracy theorists or whatever. Uh, the- the one thing that drives me nuts is that people say, "We have to stop these conspir-" Like when all these COVID conspiracies were going around. (clears throat) That, well, that's a different one, right? Because I guess some of 'em could be actually responsible for people making poor choices that you expect every-

    2. TD

      None of those people-

    3. JR

      ... day of, um...

    4. TD

      ... were gonna make good choices before that thing.

    5. JR

      But that's my point.

    6. TD

      Yeah, yeah.

    7. JR

      It's like if there's people out there that are p- pushing ridiculous conspiracy theories, like wh- who are you worried about? Are you worried about it getting to you?

    8. TD

      Right.

    9. JR

      No, you're not, right?

    10. TD

      Yeah.

    11. JR

      You're not worried about you believing it.

    12. TD

      Right.

    13. JR

      So you think you're smarter than everybody else?

    14. TD

      Yeah. Well, I think it's just people get deeply uncomfortable with the idea that they're losing control of the public sphere, the public space, right? For so long you had these, these mainstream media outlets. They had d- real direct control. I mean, everything you saw, everything you watched, everything you read, it was under the control of relatively small amount of people. And this was how it was forever.

    15. JR

      Right.

    16. TD

      Right? I mean, this was not like an aberration. This was literally how it was forever. Every single thing you read or saw was curated by a small group of people, and now it's the Wild West.

    17. JR

      Yeah.

    18. TD

      And a lot of people don't... And you're gonna get bad information and you're gonna get good information and you're gonna have to figure out which is which. And the country is not good at doing that. People are not good at doing that. And so people get worried and they're like, "Wait a minute," but you can't put the genie back in the bottle.

    19. JR

      Well, the problem is they can.

    20. TD

      Right, and they will.

    21. JR

      And with like-

    22. TD

      Yeah.

    23. JR

      ... Plandemic and all these different video-

    24. TD

      Right, they ban them.

    25. JR

      Yeah, and the video of the bunch of doctors talking about hydroxychloroquine and Z-Paks and when they gave to that-

    26. TD

      And that woman who's a witch doctor.

    27. JR

      Yeah.

    28. TD

      I liked her.

    29. JR

      (laughs)

    30. TD

      I like that witch doctor and I want to hear more about... I find her opinions on, on, on demons fucking you more interesting than COVID.

  12. 55:281:23:37

    Leaving LA: homelessness, boarded storefronts, taxes, and Texas as an escape valve

    1. TD

      Are you, are you... Is there any part of you that's gonna miss Los Angeles?

    2. JR

      Oh, yeah. Yeah.

    3. TD

      I mean-

    4. JR

      I'm gonna miss it, sure.

    5. TD

      Yeah, yeah.

    6. JR

      I'm definitely gonna miss the store. I'm, but I'm missing the Los Angeles that I don't think exists right now.

    7. TD

      Right.

    8. JR

      When you go down Melrose and you see everything boarded up and you see fucking homeless encampments everywhere. Like, I took the wife to Venice.

    9. TD

      Yeah.

    10. JR

      And, uh, I've talked about this before, unfortunately. Sorry if you heard it before. But dr- driving by, I parked at a red light, you know, stopped at a red light rather, and there's this fucking house to my left. It's probably worth $5 million. And right across the street, there's 10 tents.

    11. TD

      Right.

    12. JR

      So imagine, you- your fucking kid is in your front lawn. You- you- you made it. You got a beautiful house in Venice.

    13. TD

      Yeah.

    14. JR

      We're five minutes from the beach. I love it. You've got 10 junkies camped out in front of your fucking house.

    15. TD

      Right.

    16. JR

      And needles in the street. Like, this is crazy.

    17. TD

      It's-

    18. JR

      I mean, there's fucking tents everywhere.

    19. TD

      Yeah, yeah.

    20. JR

      I was in Brentwood this morning. It's chaos.

    21. TD

      Yeah.

    22. JR

      Dude, you get off the 405, it's just garbage stacked up seven feet high in tents, fucking hibachi grills out there.

    23. TD

      Yeah, that's why-

    24. JR

      It's nuts.

    25. TD

      Yeah. I mean, that's why I got this house in the desert, 'cause I'm like, "I just want to get out." And you know, as soon as you get out there, something happens-

    26. JR

      Yeah.

    27. TD

      ... where it gets really calm-

    28. JR

      Really hot.

    29. TD

      ... really hot, and there's none of that. It's like-

    30. JR

      That's why I'm moving to Texas.

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