Joe Rogan Experience #1525 - Tim Dillon

Joe Rogan 0:01 Tim Dillon, fresh off a COVID test. How you feeling, buddy? How's the nose?

Tim Dillon 0:04 Feeling good. You know, when I go out with friends, uh, to restaurants in LA, they, you know, everybody gets the gun.

Joe Rogan 0:12 Yeah.

Tim Dillon 0:12 The temperature gun to your head. But you know what's fucked up? A lot of my friends, they don't do it, they do it to me. And I'm like, "I guess I'm the only one that looks sick." 'Cause they look at me and they go, "Get him, get him." And then I ask other people, I'm like, "Were you hit on the way in?" They're like, "No."

Joe Rogan 0:26 What?

Tim Dillon 0:26 So I'm like... Yeah, it's weird. It's, like, arbitrary the way they do it.

Joe Rogan 0:29 They're supposed to get everybody.

Tim Dillon 0:30 I know.

Joe Rogan 0:30 Maybe they think, like, you're a little bit overweight-

Tim Dillon 0:32 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 0:33 ... and you could die.

Tim Dillon 0:33 They're like, "We don't want him dying at BOA Steakhouse-"

Joe Rogan 0:36 Mmm.

Tim Dillon 0:36 "... in West Hollywood."

Joe Rogan 0:37 Oh, you could eat outside of BOA.

Tim Dillon 0:38 They don't want me falling on a TikToker.

Joe Rogan 0:40 BOA's an outside place, you could-

Tim Dillon 0:41 BOA's all outside, yeah.

Joe Rogan 0:42 You could eat there.

Tim Dillon 0:42 All outside.

Joe Rogan 0:43 Oh.

Tim Dillon 0:44 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 0:44 Those- those outside places are, they're- they're doing good.

Tim Dillon 0:47 They're jammed.

Joe Rogan 0:48 But the fucking inside places are doomed.

Tim Dillon 0:50 They are doomed and they will not reopen, many of them.

Joe Rogan 0:52 A lot of them.

Tim Dillon 0:53 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 0:54 Yeah.

Tim Dillon 0:54 It's a big problem.

Joe Rogan 0:55 Let me ask you this-

Tim Dillon 0:56 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 0:56 ... when do you think Los Angeles is gonna open up, back up again?

Tim Dillon 1:00 Next spring.

Joe Rogan 1:01 Wow. Like April?

Tim Dillon 1:04 Well, I mean-

Joe Rogan 1:04 May?

Tim Dillon 1:04 ... it depends what this second wave does, right? If there is a second wave.

Joe Rogan 1:08 Right.

Tim Dillon 1:09 Does the... Do we get clobbered in the fall?

Joe Rogan 1:12 Man.

Tim Dillon 1:12 Or do we... I mean, by the time LA reopens, it's gonna be Terminator here.

Joe Rogan 1:17 Don't you think that it's gonna be Terminator after November, no matter what we do?

Tim Dillon 1:20 Probably.

Joe Rogan 1:21 I feel like-

Tim Dillon 1:22 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 1:22 ... with all of the fucking tension, like there was a story in Chicago, right? They thought it was a 15-year-old girl who was shot by the police. It turned out to be a 20-year-old man and he was shot, but he was still alive.

Tim Dillon 1:35 How did they get that wrong?

Joe Rogan 1:37 The fucking telephone game.

Tim Dillon 1:38 Right.

Joe Rogan 1:39 You know that game.

Tim Dillon 1:39 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 1:40 Doesn't work.

Tim Dillon 1:40 It's crazy.

Joe Rogan 1:41 So then everybody goes crazy and goes looting.

Tim Dillon 1:43 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 1:43 So, like, people are looking for an excuse to go crazy.

Tim Dillon 1:46 If Trump wins again-

Joe Rogan 1:47 Yeah, it's gonna burn.

Tim Dillon 1:48 Not only that, it's like-

Joe Rogan 1:49 Yeah.

Tim Dillon 1:49 ... it's gonna be the mail-in thing, right? So it's gonna take days. Are they gonna do that?

Joe Rogan 1:53 100%.

Tim Dillon 1:54 Wow.

Joe Rogan 1:54 Yeah. So it's gonna take days. I mean, I will assume they're gonna have some polls open-

Tim Dillon 1:58 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 1:58 ... some places.

Tim Dillon 1:59 And we're not gonna know, we're not gonna have an answer that night.

Joe Rogan 2:02 No.

Tim Dillon 2:03 That's gonna be a fun week-

Joe Rogan 2:04 It's gonna be a fucked up week.

Tim Dillon 2:04 ... of not knowing who the president is. Remember when it happened in 2000, no one cared, it was funny?

Joe Rogan 2:09 Yeah.

Tim Dillon 2:09 That we didn't have a president. Like, there was all those SNL skits and, you know, everybody was making fun of it. There was no real unrest-

Joe Rogan 2:16 No.

Tim Dillon 2:17 ... in 2000. But now we cannot handle-

Joe Rogan 2:20 No.

Tim Dillon 2:20 ... the uncertainty of not knowing. We need to know that night.

Joe Rogan 2:24 Yeah, the dangling chads thing, it was no big deal.

Tim Dillon 2:27 Yeah, it was funny.

Joe Rogan 2:27 Everybody was wondering.

Tim Dillon 2:28 Everybody was like, "What do, what, what are we doing?"

Joe Rogan 2:30 Who's laughing?

Tim Dillon 2:30 "Let me..." We were all going, "We don't need a president."

Joe Rogan 2:32 Yeah, whatever.

Tim Dillon 2:33 We were so much-

Joe Rogan 2:34 It's all the same.

Tim Dillon 2:34 ... more emotionally healthy as a country at that moment than we are now.

Joe Rogan 2:39 Isn't that funny?

Tim Dillon 2:39 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 2:39 That this is funny, but it is true.

Tim Dillon 2:41 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 2:41 Yeah.

Tim Dillon 2:41 'Cause we laughed, we go, "Yeah, who cares?"

Joe Rogan 2:43 Yeah.

Tim Dillon 2:43 They go, "We're fine." And, but now it's like-

Joe Rogan 2:47 Chaos.

Tim Dillon 2:48 And we need a break, like, we need a break, whoever win-

Joe Rogan 2:51 Yeah.

Tim Dillon 2:51 Like, w- everybody can't be a political pundit. Like, my aunt cannot be writing, uh, about trade-

Joe Rogan 2:57 Yeah.

Tim Dillon 2:57 ... on Facebook.

Joe Rogan 2:59 I think we should just leave it all to Alyssa Milano.

Tim Dillon 3:01 Yeah, well she's-

Joe Rogan 3:02 (laughs) I'm looking forward to her tweets in November.

Tim Dillon 3:05 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 3:05 I'm just gonna follow all that.

Tim Dillon 3:06 Yeah. Yeah. Well, she was like...

Joe Rogan 3:08 (laughs)

Tim Dillon 3:09 (laughs) She's got a podcast. We know that.

Joe Rogan 3:11 She's fine.

Tim Dillon 3:12 Yeah. I mean, it's relevance, right? They're all trying to be relevant.

Joe Rogan 3:15 Everybody's relevant.

Tim Dillon 3:15 Every, b- like, they have to be-

Joe Rogan 3:17 Just, you have to get your opinion out there, it's super important.

Tim Dillon 3:19 Yeah. And that's the way to be relevant now is to just be, you know, like, be political all day, every day.

Joe Rogan 3:26 With that shift, we go from actor to activist.

Tim Dillon 3:29 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 3:29 All in.

Tim Dillon 3:29 Very interesting.

Joe Rogan 3:30 As soon as the fucking calls stop coming in, you're like, "All right, I'm an activist."

Tim Dillon 3:34 What's so funny is we know, because we're, like, in the, in- in this thing that getting good at this, whether it's comedy or being an actor, it's very tough. You're not spending your life thinking about other people. Let's just be real.

Joe Rogan 3:47 (laughs)

Tim Dillon 3:47 For the most part. You're just not.

Joe Rogan 3:49 Yeah, you-

Tim Dillon 3:49 I didn't.

Joe Rogan 3:50 You're thinking about your career.

Tim Dillon 3:51 Yeah, you're thinking about your career.

Joe Rogan 3:52 Yeah.

Tim Dillon 3:52 I've spent the last decade thinking about myself, my jokes, my-

Joe Rogan 3:56 How do I get ahead?

Tim Dillon 3:57 How do I get ahead? How do I get on television for three minutes? Like, so this idea that these people are now going to pretend that they've spent their entire career thinking about global warming is not-

Joe Rogan 4:11 (laughs)

Tim Dillon 4:12 (laughs) ... it's just not true. Like, I know these pe- like, I've met these people.

Joe Rogan 4:17 Oh, yeah.

Tim Dillon 4:17 And- and, um, uh, my friends have opened for some of these people, and I know that, like, these people are going out there and they're like, "You know, listen, we gotta do this, we gotta do that, they gotta move the country forward." But I've seen them make people cry backstage at a theater because there's not enough water in the dressing room.

Joe Rogan 4:32 Right.

Tim Dillon 4:33 So it's those same people-

Joe Rogan 4:34 Yeah.

Tim Dillon 4:35 ... that are really cruel, going out and telling everybody how good of a person they are all the time.

Joe Rogan 4:40 Well, they find the pattern.

Tim Dillon 4:42 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 4:42 They find the pattern that the w- the way they have to talk and the things they have to talk about.

Tim Dillon 4:45 Right.

Joe Rogan 4:45 And they lock into those things with no deviation. They find whatever the line is where Hollywood wants, whatever the line-

Tim Dillon 4:52 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 4:52 ... it's always left, right?

Tim Dillon 4:53 Yes.

Joe Rogan 4:53 It's always super progressive-

Tim Dillon 4:54 Yes.

Joe Rogan 4:54 ... always super woke. And they fucking ride that line-

Tim Dillon 4:58 Yes.

Joe Rogan 4:58 ... like a fucking railroad train. Just choo-choo-

Tim Dillon 5:00 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 5:00 ... straight down the... No deviation.

Tim Dillon 5:02 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 5:03 It's so obvious.

Tim Dillon 5:04 I know dudes I used to do open mics with who, like, they're tweeting at Mayor Garcetti. (laughs)

Joe Rogan 5:09 (laughs)

Tim Dillon 5:09 They're tweeting about the budget in LA.

Joe Rogan 5:13 Woo-ha.

Tim Dillon 5:14 They're like, "The budget's being passed." They're tweeting Garcet- the budget. I'm like, "Guys, you can't... You don't have the money to pay your rent." Like, "You have no idea what's going on in the world and you're tweeting at Garcetti about the bu-" And they're doing it so that they can get a job.

Joe Rogan 5:30 Right.

Tim Dillon 5:30 They're doing it so that somebody can see them and go, "You know what? He'd be, you know, he had a great Garcetti tweet, he should write on BoJack Horseman."

Joe Rogan 5:37 (laughs)

Tim Dillon 5:39 That's the way it works.

Joe Rogan 5:40 It does kinda work like that. I've- I've, uh, I've, uh, I've just na- I've never been more amused.It's very funny, but I'm also terrified.

Tim Dillon 5:49 It's very... We're gonna die. (laughs)

Joe Rogan 5:52 (laughs)

Tim Dillon 5:52 It has both of those things happening.

Joe Rogan 5:53 Yes. It's like-

Tim Dillon 5:54 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 5:54 ... part of me is laughing at how stereotypical everybody is, and how cliché.

Tim Dillon 5:58 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 5:58 But then part of me is like, this is terrifying. Like, the, the, the people at each other's throats.

Tim Dillon 6:03 It-

Joe Rogan 6:04 It's terrifying.

Tim Dillon 6:04 People are enemies now.

Joe Rogan 6:06 Yeah.

Tim Dillon 6:06 Like, it... Uh, listen, people never loved each other 'cause it's a competitive business, but like, I, I ne- like, people... It wasn't nearly as intense-

Joe Rogan 6:15 Right.

Tim Dillon 6:15 ... as it is right now, like the feeling of like, if you disagree with somebody, they are your enemy-

Joe Rogan 6:21 Yeah.

Tim Dillon 6:21 ... in comedy, and they want you to not have a job.

Joe Rogan 6:24 Right.

Tim Dillon 6:24 Like, and I've never felt that way about anybo-... I don't care what you... If you're funny, I truly don't care-

Joe Rogan 6:31 Right.

Tim Dillon 6:31 ... if you're a communist, if you're a... whatever. Whatever you are, you're not... You don't have any power. It's not like you're affecting my life. You can believe whatever you want. If you're funny, you're funny.

Joe Rogan 6:40 I don't like to say this in generalizations 'cause I don't think... I don't believe in generalizations, but-

Tim Dillon 6:44 Right.

Joe Rogan 6:45 ... I think-

Tim Dillon 6:45 I love them.

Joe Rogan 6:46 I do too. They're fun.

Tim Dillon 6:47 I need them.

Joe Rogan 6:48 They're, they're the best for comedy.

Tim Dillon 6:48 Yeah. I mean, we need them. Yeah.

Joe Rogan 6:50 With- without co-... Without generalizations, comedy kind of sucks.

Tim Dillon 6:52 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 6:52 But more people on the left are doing this than people on the right.

Tim Dillon 6:57 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 6:57 I don't see that many people on the right. I see a few, but I don't see-

Tim Dillon 7:01 Right.

Joe Rogan 7:01 ... as many people on the right calling for people to get canceled forever. But the people on the left-

Tim Dillon 7:05 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 7:05 ... are like, "Burn their house, burn them to the ground."

Tim Dillon 7:08 Well, the right will do it. The right... I mean, the QAnon thing is kind of a way they're doing it, where they're like, "David Spade's got an ankle bracelet on, and-

Joe Rogan 7:16 (laughs)

Tim Dillon 7:16 ... he's in jail, and Trump's put everyone under house arrest." Like, they're in this other thing, where it's like, "Oh, you guys have left the planet-

Joe Rogan 7:23 (laughs)

Tim Dillon 7:24 ... and you..." Like, so ex-

Joe Rogan 7:25 Explain p-... to people who don't know-

Tim Dillon 7:27 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 7:27 ... what- what this QAnon shit is.

Tim Dillon 7:28 Well, the QAnon stuff is like, the- there is this idea that there's an intelligence dissemination operation happening, meaning behind the scenes, high-level intelligence guys or military people are leaking information about a shadow war that we don't really see happening, and this shadow war involves Trump and the people on the side of lightness battling the, you know, these deep state, pedofil- cani- uh, pedophile cannibals. Like, I don't know why-

Joe Rogan 7:54 Yeah.

Tim Dillon 7:54 ... uh, like, I don't... never understood why they have to be cannibals, but apparent-

Joe Rogan 7:57 I didn't know they were cannibals.

Tim Dillon 7:58 They're... No, they're cannibals. They're eating children, and then they get the adrenochrome, and it keeps them young.

Joe Rogan 8:02 Oh, that's right, adrenochrome.

Tim Dillon 8:02 So this is all the... And then Trump is going to war with all of them.

Joe Rogan 8:05 Right.

Tim Dillon 8:06 Now listen, pedophilia is a big problem. They do cover up shit at high levels-

Joe Rogan 8:10 Yes.

Tim Dillon 8:10 ... 100%.

Joe Rogan 8:11 Yes.

Tim Dillon 8:12 The Epstein stuff is 100% real.

Joe Rogan 8:14 100%.

Tim Dillon 8:14 Clinton's on that plane. He's on that island. Uh-

Joe Rogan 8:17 26 times.

Tim Dillon 8:18 Yeah, the Franklin scandal. There's scandals all over the world. So I'm not delegitimizing, like, the idea of real human trafficking ab-... But the idea that Donald Trump is fighting human traffickers and the human traffickers are Ellen, who is a little wild-

Joe Rogan 8:35 (laughs)

Tim Dillon 8:35 ... that everyone in Hollywood's eating children, and there's tunnels under Central Park. I mean, it's hard to keep up with. And the, the Q drops, so to speak, are like these, these, um... You know, they're like, they're like poems, or they're, they're coded information. So it's never like, "Hey, this is what's happening."

Joe Rogan 8:52 Wh- Where do you get these drops?

Tim Dillon 8:53 Where do you get them, 4Chan or something?

Joe Rogan 8:54 4Chan.

Tim Dillon 8:54 You get them, like, on 4Chan.

Joe Rogan 8:55 Okay, but 4Chan is the best place in the world for trolls.

Tim Dillon 8:59 It's... You... It's a lot of f-... Well, that's what maybe this is. This could be like a-

Joe Rogan 9:01 That's what I'm saying.

Tim Dillon 9:02 Yeah, it could be a high-level troll. Nobody knows 'cause it's bait. It has nuggets of truth-

Joe Rogan 9:06 Right, right, right.

Tim Dillon 9:07 ... just like anything else. Right?

Joe Rogan 9:08 Yeah.

Tim Dillon 9:08 It has nuggets of very real things. The government is shady as fuck. A lot of the elites are doing things, engaging in pedophilia and probably worse.

Joe Rogan 9:16 Yeah.

Tim Dillon 9:16 Like, I... Some of those kids on Epstein's Island probably did disappear. But the idea that like, that, that Trump is fighting this underground war and it's all about human traffick-... I just don't think that's borne out by the facts. Like, there's no facts to point. I mean, Trump was like friends with the Clintons for his whole life.

Joe Rogan 9:34 Well, not only that. If Trump was doing it and not talking about it, it would be so out of character.

Tim Dillon 9:41 Right. (laughs)

Joe Rogan 9:41 Like, imagine this one thing that he's doing is the most noble thing that he's ever done, ever.

Tim Dillon 9:46 Right, he's not mentioning it.

Joe Rogan 9:47 The most selfless-

Tim Dillon 9:48 (laughs)

Joe Rogan 9:48 ... the most important, the most-

Tim Dillon 9:49 Right.

Joe Rogan 9:49 ... for humanity, and he's not even-

Tim Dillon 9:51 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 9:51 ... bringing it up. He's just secretly winking-

Tim Dillon 9:53 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 9:53 ... at all the Q people.

Tim Dillon 9:54 Well, you know, and- and so everything he does, there's like a reason he does it, they say. Like when he wished Ghislaine Maxwell, he goes, "I wish her well."

Joe Rogan 10:00 Yeah.

Tim Dillon 10:01 Now the thing is, that's-

Joe Rogan 10:02 What was that?

Tim Dillon 10:03 That's a rich guy who's forgetting he's the president and who's just on a tee at Mar-a-Lago 'cause-

Joe Rogan 10:06 (laughs)

Tim Dillon 10:06 ... that's how rich people talk. I mean, that's literally... And I- I've been around a few-

Joe Rogan 10:10 (laughs)

Tim Dillon 10:10 ... like, really wealthy people. This is how they talk when you say something bad-

Joe Rogan 10:14 Right.

Tim Dillon 10:14 ... anything bad. If you go, "You know, you know, John's wife has cancer. You know their kid out of DWI. He's got a problem. He had a couple incidents there at Harvard." They go like this, "I wish him well." Tee off.

Joe Rogan 10:24 (laughs)

Tim Dillon 10:24 Like that's- that's how they talk. That's how they ta-... It's just a dismissal.

Joe Rogan 10:28 Yeah.

Tim Dillon 10:28 It's a way to dismiss it.

Joe Rogan 10:29 Yep.

Tim Dillon 10:30 But the Q people are like, "Oh, there's a meaning. There's hidden meaning."

Joe Rogan 10:33 Right.

Tim Dillon 10:33 "He's saying that she's... And if you look at Ivanka's wearing this dress and it means..."

Joe Rogan 10:38 Ah.

Tim Dillon 10:38 And it's just like, listen, I'm a conspiracy guy, but this is exhausting.

Joe Rogan 10:41 Although I don't care.

Tim Dillon 10:42 It's like too much.

Joe Rogan 10:43 Do you jacket? The jacket?

Tim Dillon 10:45 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 10:45 I don't care. Do you?

Tim Dillon 10:46 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 10:46 Isn't that what it said?

Tim Dillon 10:47 Yeah, I don't ca-... I don't really care. Do you? Right.

Joe Rogan 10:49 What?

Tim Dillon 10:50 Yeah. I mean, it's weird.

Joe Rogan 10:51 What the fuck is this?

Tim Dillon 10:51 Yeah, these are weird things.

Joe Rogan 10:53 What are we doing?

Tim Dillon 10:53 So I think the Trump administration feeds the trolls. Like, I think they like it.

Joe Rogan 10:57 (laughs)

Tim Dillon 10:57 I think he'll... By the time the election rolls around, he'll be like full, full Q, just leaning in.

Joe Rogan 11:02 Who's, who's behind the scenes pulling the strings? Is it Ivanka? That would be funny.

Tim Dillon 11:05 They say Jared Kushner has a lot of power.

Joe Rogan 11:07 Right. But wouldn't it be funny if it was Ivanka doing the whole thing?

Tim Dillon 11:09 It could be.

Joe Rogan 11:10 If she's the one like stroking her chin, like, "Hmm."

Tim Dillon 11:12 She's the boss.

Joe Rogan 11:12 "What is the, what is the nugget we release next?"

Tim Dillon 11:14 Right. (laughs)

Joe Rogan 11:15 She's the-

Tim Dillon 11:15 She's QAnon.

Joe Rogan 11:16 She's the smart one who's like-

Tim Dillon 11:18 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 11:18 ... se- setting it up.

Tim Dillon 11:18 How do we, how do we... Yeah.

Joe Rogan 11:20 She's the pretty daughter. Everybody dismisses her.

Tim Dillon 11:23 I mean-

Joe Rogan 11:23 Nobody takes her seriously.

Tim Dillon 11:24 Yeah, nobody... Right, right.

Joe Rogan 11:25 She's in the background on the whole fucking show with-

Tim Dillon 11:27 She's Q.

Joe Rogan 11:27 ... black leather gloves on.

Tim Dillon 11:29 Yeah. (laughs)

Joe Rogan 11:30 That go to the... The elbow gloves.

Tim Dillon 11:31 Like the Inspector Gadget hand.

Joe Rogan 11:32 The ones that go like this.

Tim Dillon 11:32 You just hear a hand typing on 4Chan. Send. Send. Yeah, I don't, I don't know, man. You know, Steve Bannon said something, and there was a documentary about... Errol, uh, Errol Morris made a documentary about Steve Bannon. Steve Bannon said this very interesting thing. He said, "You know, there's a guy, uh, out there who's got a horrible life. Like he's divorced. His kids don't like him. He has a shitty job. But when he plays like League o- League of Legends or World of Warcraft or one of these games, he's a hero. And when he dies in real life, nobody really cares. But when he dies in the game, so many people come out and they, like, they... you know, they show him respect 'cause you're playing-"

Joe Rogan 12:05 Yeah.

Tim Dillon 12:05 "... with people from all over the world." So Bannon's like, "Which, which life is the real life?" So, which of course it- it's the, the real one that you're living, not this fantasy game. But I think the QAnon thing, I think the Trump administration is like, yeah, let people believe they're hunting pedophiles online. It gives their lives meaning.

Joe Rogan 12:23 Right.

Tim Dillon 12:23 Like, let these people believe they're like hunting the Clintons. It's like fun. It's like a fun video game for them, and then they don't have to ask why they don't have health insurance and can't get a knee operation.

Joe Rogan 12:31 I th-... I don't think that they're... it's that-... involved.

Tim Dillon 12:35 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 12:35 I think it's just a thing that's happening-

Tim Dillon 12:37 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 12:37 ... that happens to fit in with human nature.

Tim Dillon 12:39 That's probably true too.

Joe Rogan 12:40 Like, I-

Tim Dillon 12:41 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 12:41 ... I don't believe that the Trump Administration has the resources to do that, but still-

Tim Dillon 12:46 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 12:46 I mean, uh, they would have to be so 4D chess. They would, they would really have to be-

Tim Dillon 12:50 I think they may, like, encourage it a little. I think they may just-

Joe Rogan 12:54 What's that?

Tim Dillon 12:54 ... pour a little gasoline on it.

Joe Rogan 12:56 Maybe.

Tim Dillon 12:56 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 12:57 Maybe. Well, if they-

Tim Dillon 12:58 Why not?

Joe Rogan 12:58 ... think that's their base.

Tim Dillon 12:59 Yeah, they're like, "Why not?" They're having fun. What I'm saying is like-

Joe Rogan 13:02 And when you go out to a Trump rally, you want a little fun.

Tim Dillon 13:04 Oh, for sure.

Joe Rogan 13:05 Yeah.

Tim Dillon 13:05 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 13:06 It's the things that he does-

Tim Dillon 13:08 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 13:08 ... that are mistakes.

Tim Dillon 13:09 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 13:09 Like, these, these interviews that he does, where he'll, he'll argue about shit. Like, he'll, he'll argue about-

Tim Dillon 13:15 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 13:16 ... how well they're doing or w-, you know, what's wrong or what he got right or what his IQ is or how well he did at this, uh, intelligence test. Like, anybody who's playing, like, 3D chess is not gonna do that.

Tim Dillon 13:27 Right. No. No, he's not playing any chess, I think.

Joe Rogan 13:30 He's going by instinct.

Tim Dillon 13:31 He's, he's riffing. And we've said it before-

Joe Rogan 13:34 Yeah.

Tim Dillon 13:34 ... I've said it on the show before. It's like, it's amazing to watch a guy get up, no material-

Joe Rogan 13:39 (laughs)

Tim Dillon 13:39 ... and just crush.

Joe Rogan 13:40 Yeah.

Tim Dillon 13:40 I mean, just, he's really going by instinct. He's like-

Joe Rogan 13:43 Yeah.

Tim Dillon 13:43 ... perf-, he's perfectly suited for this era.

Joe Rogan 13:46 Yeah.

Tim Dillon 13:46 Because he's, like, he, he's hypnotizing. Like, if you start listening to him, you can't stop. Like, I'll try to watch one five-minute clip of an interview, I end up watching the whole hour.

Joe Rogan 13:55 Yeah.

Tim Dillon 13:55 Because he's, like, there's a hypnotic thing that's going on where he just is up and down and you just, you can't not listen.

Joe Rogan 14:02 Have you ever seen Scott Adams talk about him?

Tim Dillon 14:04 No.

Joe Rogan 14:04 Scott Adams is an interesting guy. He's a very intelligent guy. He wrote the D-Dilbert comics. You know what he is?

Tim Dillon 14:10 Yeah, yeah, yeah.

Joe Rogan 14:10 Yeah. So he's basically saying that Trump is like a master persuader. And Scott Adams-

Tim Dillon 14:17 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 14:17 ... understands hypnosis and persuasion and he's-

Tim Dillon 14:20 Interesting.

Joe Rogan 14:20 ... he's talking about the way the guy does it and how he does it, that he's a master persuader.

Tim Dillon 14:24 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 14:24 And a lot of people disagree with him. But what's interesting is he's not e-, he doesn't even vote. Scott Adams doesn't vote. And he's not really a Trump supporter, although he does say a lot of things that seem to, like, I think he g-, he leans towards Trump being more persuasive than just going by his gut-

Tim Dillon 14:42 Right.

Joe Rogan 14:42 ... 'cause it sort of fills his... He's got this theory.

Tim Dillon 14:45 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 14:45 And that, that aligns with his theory, so he goes along. Like, I see him leaning into it a little bit, where it's not like he's totally objective about it. But he's lost millions of dollars because of this, millions.

Tim Dillon 14:55 Really?

Joe Rogan 14:55 Like people have t-. Oh, fuck yeah. They've turned on him.

Tim Dillon 14:58 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 14:58 He was saying on Twitter the other day that s-, people, uh, slowed down in front of his house, started screaming that he's a racist.

Tim Dillon 15:03 Jesus.

Joe Rogan 15:04 For nothing.

Tim Dillon 15:05 Yes.

Joe Rogan 15:05 Just because, because he said that Trump is persuasive.

Tim Dillon 15:08 Right.

Joe Rogan 15:09 And that he said that he thinks Trump is, uh, uh, essentially pulling people's strings and manipulating people in a really interesting way. And that-

Tim Dillon 15:16 Yeah. And he is. I mean, like, uh, any president does that.

Joe Rogan 15:20 Yeah.

Tim Dillon 15:20 But Trump does it extremely well.

Joe Rogan 15:22 Well, he does it in a non-presidential way.

Tim Dillon 15:24 Right. Right.

Joe Rogan 15:24 That's what's weird.

Tim Dillon 15:25 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 15:25 It's a weird way of doing it.

Tim Dillon 15:27 He's a co-, I love con artists and grifters, and to me, Trump is the highest level, biggest con ever, most successful, you know, without a question. I mean, like, you know, he's the king of all of those. G-, every guy sitting in an office right now calling people up trying to sell them shit over the phone, that's the, Trump's the king.

Joe Rogan 15:45 That's that guy. That's that guy.

Tim Dillon 15:45 Trump's the highest level that you can, I mean, anybody, I mean, if you're using a fake ID-

Joe Rogan 15:51 Yeah.

Tim Dillon 15:51 ... to try to buy cigarettes, up the ladder, there's Donald Trump.

Joe Rogan 15:56 (laughs)

Tim Dillon 15:56 Like, all the way up the ladder. And that, to me, I think 'cause everyone's like, "He's evil," or, "He's Jesus." It's like, I don't, I don't look at things that emotionally 'cause I guess I'm just not a total loser. I think that's really what it is.

Joe Rogan 16:08 Probably.

Tim Dillon 16:08 I think if you're really f-, have nothing going on, everything becomes about politics. Which we don't, I'm never gonna meet Nancy Pel- I mean, this is a television show.

Joe Rogan 16:17 Right.

Tim Dillon 16:17 You know? I'm not saying that real things don't happen, that people aren't affected. But this day-to-day, like, you're inundated with like, "He said she said, Pelosi, Schumer."

Joe Rogan 16:27 Yeah.

Tim Dillon 16:27 It's like, dude, who cares?

Joe Rogan 16:30 My favorite Pelosi and Schumer image-

Tim Dillon 16:32 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 16:32 ... of all time was them with the African outfit on.

Tim Dillon 16:35 The kente cloth. Yeah, it's the best.

Joe Rogan 16:36 Yeah. On their knees, not realizing that the cloth pattern they're wearing-

Tim Dillon 16:40 (laughs)

Joe Rogan 16:40 ... was from a tribe that was notorious for selling slaves.

Tim Dillon 16:43 Yeah, yeah. Well-

Joe Rogan 16:45 They were notorious for being, uh, a major part of the slave trade.

Tim Dillon 16:48 Yeah. Well, so was the Democratic Party for many years. (laughs)

Joe Rogan 16:51 Yes. (laughs) Let's be honest.

Tim Dillon 16:52 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 16:52 That's what people don't know.

Tim Dillon 16:53 Yeah, that's-

Joe Rogan 16:54 I mean, when you go way-

Tim Dillon 16:55 They were-

Joe Rogan 16:55 ... back to the Democrats-

Tim Dillon 16:55 Right.

Joe Rogan 16:56 ... the Democrats were the Confederates.

Tim Dillon 16:57 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 16:57 Whoops.

Tim Dillon 16:58 So, and it's just we've been looking at these people for too long. We've seen-

Joe Rogan 17:02 You see that image? That's amazing.

Tim Dillon 17:03 Yeah. I love-

Joe Rogan 17:04 That's good, but it's not as good as the one when they're on their knees. The one where they're just-

Tim Dillon 17:06 I love the hands on the hips, like-

Joe Rogan 17:08 Oh, and the mask as well. They've got everything going on there.

Tim Dillon 17:10 Boss bitch, yeah.

Joe Rogan 17:11 Yeah. It's beautiful. And bo-, someone was saying that, like, "Well, you have to respect Nancy Pelosi." Someone said that to me. And I said, "She wants 16-year-olds to be v-, able to vote."

Tim Dillon 17:19 They look, by the way, like invaders that just came into a country, slaughtered people-

Joe Rogan 17:23 Yeah. (laughs)

Tim Dillon 17:23 ... and took their clothing.

Joe Rogan 17:24 Hopped off of a boat.

Tim Dillon 17:25 Yeah, they look like people that just colonized an area-

Joe Rogan 17:27 Yeah.

Tim Dillon 17:27 ... and took their cloth.

Joe Rogan 17:28 Yeah, they're w-, they're wearing, like, swamp boots so they don't step in the blood.

Tim Dillon 17:32 Isn't she, like, how old is she?

Joe Rogan 17:33 A million. She's a million years old.

Tim Dillon 17:35 Right. I mean, uh, do the, does anyone retire? Does anyone-

Joe Rogan 17:37 No.

Tim Dillon 17:37 ... step away?

Joe Rogan 17:38 No, you, you die at a Trump rally like Herman Cain.

Tim Dillon 17:41 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 17:42 What are you gonna do?

Tim Dillon 17:43 Respect to Herman Cain.

Joe Rogan 17:44 Respect. No mask.

Tim Dillon 17:45 Godfather's pizza.

Joe Rogan 17:46 Went out there.

Tim Dillon 17:46 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 17:47 Went out there, no mask.

Tim Dillon 17:48 He does what he wants, but he had, he had cancer and...

Joe Rogan 17:50 Did he?

Tim Dillon 17:51 He had cancer, I think.

Joe Rogan 17:52 Oh, did he?

Tim Dillon 17:53 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 17:54 Well, he died of COVID.

Tim Dillon 17:55 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 17:56 If you have COVID and you die of cancer, you still died of COVID.

Tim Dillon 17:58 Right. It's, he's, if you get hit by a car, you die of COVID.

Joe Rogan 18:01 Which is ... I don't think they do it that far, but-

Tim Dillon 18:02 Well, we'll see.

Joe Rogan 18:03 ... it's a fun thing to say.

Tim Dillon 18:04 We'll see.

Joe Rogan 18:04 (laughs)

Tim Dillon 18:04 There's gonna be a documentary in a few years about this. I don't know.

Joe Rogan 18:07 New York Times was saying today they think it's under-reported. They think that the COVID deaths are somewhere around 200,000.

Tim Dillon 18:13 Yeah, I mean, listen. I mean, it was-

Joe Rogan 18:14 I think it was New York Times. Might not.

Tim Dillon 18:15 At a certain point, you just, you have to stop reading.

Joe Rogan 18:18 Mm-hmm.

Tim Dillon 18:18 Because everything you read every hour contradicts the last thing you've read.

Joe Rogan 18:23 Yeah.

Tim Dillon 18:24 And they're like, "It's airborne." "No, it's not." "Yes, it is." "No, it's not." I'm like...

Joe Rogan 18:27 (laughs)

Tim Dillon 18:29 What do I do?

Joe Rogan 18:29 You can get it off surfaces. No, you can't.

Tim Dillon 18:31 Just kill me. Like, I don't know what's happening. I, I-

Joe Rogan 18:34 Well, they don't know, that's the problem.

Tim Dillon 18:35 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 18:36 Is they're, they're making it up on the go because they're getting new data all the time. They're constantly getting new information, new studies, new things show up. But they don't react to all the studies. Like, one of the big ones is the fact that it dies in sunlight.So-

Tim Dillon 18:47 Right.

Joe Rogan 18:48 ... if that's the case, well, you should let people do all sorts of outdoor activities.

Tim Dillon 18:51 These studies, when you read about the studies, they're like, "We sampled a certain amount of people and this is what we found."

Joe Rogan 18:57 Mm-hmm.

Tim Dillon 18:57 And it's like, that's not n- necessarily indicative-

Joe Rogan 19:00 Right.

Tim Dillon 19:00 ... of anything.

Joe Rogan 19:02 Well, it's, it's information.

Tim Dillon 19:04 It's better than nothing.

Joe Rogan 19:04 Yeah, and it depends on who's reading the study and what their bias is and what they're trying to say. Um, but, uh, they're, there's, it's clear that they're trying to figure this out. I mean, obviously-

Tim Dillon 19:13 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 19:13 ... it's only been around for six, seven months and we're-

Tim Dillon 19:16 They say that the people-

Joe Rogan 19:17 ... real confused.

Tim Dillon 19:17 ... that are really reacting to it, uh, in many cases, a lot, like, for whatever reason, their immune system has not had as many prior experiences with coronaviruses. So if your-

Joe Rogan 19:27 Right.

Tim Dillon 19:27 ... immune system has gotten a lot of colds and you fought them off, supposedly you're in a better position to deal with this than somebody who has not had that happen.

Joe Rogan 19:35 Germophobes are fucked.

Tim Dillon 19:36 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 19:36 Germophobes, people who live in hiding-

Tim Dillon 19:38 We might be... The fact that we're, we were shaking hands and on, on and off planes, that might be good. That might have strengthened our immune system.

Joe Rogan 19:42 Well, they were saying that about people in prison.

Tim Dillon 19:44 Right.

Joe Rogan 19:44 Like, one of the reasons why the people in prison are doing so well with it... Like, when guys are in prison, you would say, "Oh, what a fucking terrible place for your immune system." But, uh, was it Huberman? Was it, uh, Andrew Huberman who was, uh, talking to us about this? I think it was. He was saying... Might not have been him. Too many guests. Uh, they were talking about immune systems and that when you, uh, think of your immune system, you think, well, if you're, you're healthy and calm and well slept and, you know, you're not stressed out, that's when your immune system is at its best. Well, that's not really the case. And those people that are in jail stuffed in next to all these people, breathing in everybody's bacteria and all the viruses and shit that's in the air, no escape from each other, no way to social distance, those people actually have pretty strong immune systems because of that.

Tim Dillon 20:25 They're doing good.

Joe Rogan 20:26 Because their immune system is, like, in shape.

Tim Dillon 20:28 So the LA homeless population's gotta be great.

Joe Rogan 20:30 Oh, yeah.

Tim Dillon 20:31 They're probably, they probably have a natural immunity.

Joe Rogan 20:33 You know they have typhus?

Tim Dillon 20:35 (laughs) I don't know.

Joe Rogan 20:37 You didn't know that?

Tim Dillon 20:37 I had no idea.

Joe Rogan 20:37 They've found typhus.

Tim Dillon 20:39 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 20:39 Yeah. It's a middle-age disease. Like it's gonna-

Tim Dillon 20:42 Come back-

Joe Rogan 20:43 Yeah.

Tim Dillon 20:43 ... because of, like, the conditions, the urine-

Joe Rogan 20:45 Yeah.

Tim Dillon 20:45 ... the feces.

Joe Rogan 20:45 Not middle-age, medieval.

Tim Dillon 20:47 Medieval.

Joe Rogan 20:47 I always fuck that up. Every time I do that, I'm like, "This time I'm gonna get it right." Nope, I always say middle-aged, not medieval.

Tim Dillon 20:51 But they're doing good with corona because they have strong immune systems, so why don't we open The Comedy Store up and just have the homeless be the servers?

Joe Rogan 20:57 Hm.

Tim Dillon 20:58 Like, why can't we open up businesses in LA and just have the homeless, who have strengthened their immune systems, operate the businesses?

Joe Rogan 21:05 Th- they don't show up to work.

Tim Dillon 21:07 Let them shoot, let them shoot The Voice.

Joe Rogan 21:09 Th- they're not... (laughs)

Tim Dillon 21:10 (laughs) Let homeless people go in and direct The Voice.

Joe Rogan 21:14 I don't think they... They don't show up a lot.

Tim Dillon 21:16 That's true. That's a good point.

Joe Rogan 21:18 They're very unreliable.

Tim Dillon 21:18 They're unreliable.

Joe Rogan 21:19 Maybe you should have, like, three homeless for each job.

Tim Dillon 21:22 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 21:22 And you're like, "Look, if you don't do it-"

Tim Dillon 21:23 Someone's coming in.

Joe Rogan 21:23 "... Becky's ready. Becky's on standby."

Tim Dillon 21:26 (laughs)

Joe Rogan 21:26 Becky's over there shaking and scratching. (laughs) You have two standbys.

Tim Dillon 21:29 Here's the camera. Yeah.

Joe Rogan 21:30 Yeah.

Tim Dillon 21:30 Point it at, uh, how we meant it... This is America's Got Talent.

Joe Rogan 21:33 There's 70,000 of them just in LA.

Tim Dillon 21:35 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 21:35 And-

Tim Dillon 21:35 It's crazy.

Joe Rogan 21:36 ... they don't even know really how many there are now-

Tim Dillon 21:38 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 21:38 ... because there were 70,000 of them before corona.

Tim Dillon 21:40 Oh, there's gonna be-

Joe Rogan 21:41 How many?

Tim Dillon 21:41 There's gonna be millions.

Joe Rogan 21:42 Imagine if there's a million homeless people.

Tim Dillon 21:43 There's gonna be millions of homeless people. It's gonna look very soon like a, and it's already starting to get there, like a movie, like a post-apocalyptic movie where you drive down Melrose and everything's boarded up.

Joe Rogan 21:57 Yeah.

Tim Dillon 21:57 And you see a lot... Like, it's gonna l- start looking really bad here.

Joe Rogan 22:03 It could look really bad here.

Tim Dillon 22:04 New York is a nightmare.

Joe Rogan 22:06 I've heard.

Tim Dillon 22:07 Like, New York, the crime is skyrocketing.

Joe Rogan 22:09 Mm-hmm.

Tim Dillon 22:10 And, you know, there's just, m- you know, the, the, the, the, the relationship between the police and the people is very fraught and it's very ha- I mean, it's like, so the police are like, "Fuck it, we don't wanna do anything," and you, like, y- you understand. A lot of... They're just like, "Listen, we're gonna sit back." And then now a lot of areas are just being policed by cr- criminal elements, by gangs and stuff like that. 'Cause that's what happens in a power vacuum.

Joe Rogan 22:32 Yeah.

Tim Dillon 22:32 You know, if you get rid of the cops... I'm not saying they shouldn't be reformed or they shouldn't have all these new regulations, but, like, if you defund them or get rid of them, somebody steps into that vacuum.

Joe Rogan 22:43 Yeah.

Tim Dillon 22:43 And it's gonna be usually a gang, the mafia, a crime syndicate, whatever.

Joe Rogan 22:48 Dude, de Blasio.

Tim Dillon 22:49 Not good.

Joe Rogan 22:49 If you think your mayor is bad... (laughs)

Tim Dillon 22:52 De Blasio is a nightmare.

Joe Rogan 22:53 He's like holding my beer.

Tim Dillon 22:56 He's bad.

Joe Rogan 22:57 He's the worst.

Tim Dillon 22:57 He's bad.

Joe Rogan 22:58 He eats pizza with a fork.

Tim Dillon 22:59 And what's great is that- (laughs)

Joe Rogan 23:01 (laughs) He does.

Tim Dillon 23:02 Well, he does, yeah. What's great is that everyone hates him. Like, the left hates him-

Joe Rogan 23:06 Yeah.

Tim Dillon 23:06 ... and that, for different reasons, and then the right hates him.

Joe Rogan 23:08 But even the Black Lives Matter people hate him-

Tim Dillon 23:10 They all hate him.

Joe Rogan 23:11 ... 'cause he's so pandering.

Tim Dillon 23:12 What are they doing?

Joe Rogan 23:12 He, look at them.

Tim Dillon 23:13 Oh, God.

Joe Rogan 23:13 Eating pizza with a fork.

Tim Dillon 23:14 He's disgusting.

Joe Rogan 23:15 Who, what kind of a fucking human-

Tim Dillon 23:16 What is this, the mafia? Who's he sitting with?

Joe Rogan 23:18 A bunch of old dead people.

Tim Dillon 23:19 Who i- who is this, the, the mob?

Joe Rogan 23:20 Look at, look how ridiculous this is.

Tim Dillon 23:21 This the teacher's union?

Joe Rogan 23:22 The one guy with the s- sleeves, the guy with the sleeve tattoos, he better not eat that pizza with a fork. I will fucking find him.

Tim Dillon 23:28 Yeah. I mean, de Blasio...

Joe Rogan 23:30 He's a fake human. He's not a real human.

Tim Dillon 23:32 He's like, he's like a goofball.

Joe Rogan 23:33 Yeah.

Tim Dillon 23:34 And he gets up with his wife, they did, like, a rally right after coronavirus. And, like, she gets up and she goes, "Power to the people." And then she thought, like, it was gonna be, like, a '60s rally.

Joe Rogan 23:44 No.

Tim Dillon 23:44 And then the crowd was, just stared at her like, "What the fuck?"

Joe Rogan 23:47 "What? We're gonna die, lady."

Tim Dillon 23:48 Yeah, they thought-

Joe Rogan 23:48 "Everyone's coughing."

Tim Dillon 23:49 Yeah, they thought it was gonna be like, they were gonna start beating tambourines, like, "Power to the peo-"

Joe Rogan 23:54 (laughs)

Tim Dillon 23:54 Like, her and de Blasio think they're, like, living some historic moment and...

Joe Rogan 23:59 Well, they are.

Tim Dillon 24:00 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 24:00 It's just not what they think it is.

Tim Dillon 24:01 It's just not what they think it is. (laughs)

Joe Rogan 24:02 Yeah.

Tim Dillon 24:02 They're in the wrong movie.

Joe Rogan 24:04 Yeah, it's, uh, it's rough, man.

Tim Dillon 24:05 Yeah, cities are in trouble.

Joe Rogan 24:07 Yeah. Well, he, he literally said, "You can only protest if it's a Black Lives Matter protest." Like-

Tim Dillon 24:12 Yeah. Like, listen- (sputters)

Joe Rogan 24:13 ... as much as I support the movement-

Tim Dillon 24:15 Right.

Joe Rogan 24:15 ... that is not freedom of speech. You can't-

Tim Dillon 24:18 No.

Joe Rogan 24:18 ... do that.

Tim Dillon 24:18 No.

Joe Rogan 24:19 That's anti-First Amendment.

Tim Dillon 24:20 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 24:20 That it is a big part of who we are. You can't say-

Tim Dillon 24:23 Yeah. No.

Joe Rogan 24:23 ... you can only do one kind of protest.

Tim Dillon 24:26 Everybody's gotta protest or nobody's gotta protest.

Joe Rogan 24:28 Right.

Tim Dillon 24:28 Everyone's gotta be allowed. You gotta allow the anti-mask people with-

Joe Rogan 24:31 Yeah.

Tim Dillon 24:31 ... Candace Owens-

Joe Rogan 24:32 Yeah.

Tim Dillon 24:32 ... singing songs with Sean Hannity.

Joe Rogan 24:35 (laughs)

Tim Dillon 24:35 And you need to let the Black Lives Matter people do it.

Joe Rogan 24:37 Everybody's gotta be able to protest.

Tim Dillon 24:39 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 24:39 Everybody.

Tim Dillon 24:39 I mean, I'm not gonna t- I rented a house in the desert and it's 119 degrees every day. So pe- not only can people not protest, you can't leave your house without dying.

Joe Rogan 24:46 Yeah.

Tim Dillon 24:46 Like, if you leave your house, you get skin cancer.

Joe Rogan 24:48 Sauna life.

Tim Dillon 24:48 And, yeah, and they tried to do a protest. It lasted, I swear to God, it lasted three blocks.

Joe Rogan 24:52 (laughs)

Tim Dillon 24:53 They were, like, bang, like they were banging a thing, they were like, "No justice." (laughs)

Joe Rogan 24:56 (laughs) (sighs) They were like, "No."

Tim Dillon 24:59 (laughs)

Joe Rogan 24:59 "No, peo-" Like, they had no idea. And then you... They were sitting down, you just saw them, like, sitting down, eating ice. I am 100% for police reform.

Tim Dillon 25:06 100%.

Joe Rogan 25:07 I'm, I'm 100%. I 100% believe there's too much police brutality.

Tim Dillon 25:10 Too much.

Joe Rogan 25:10 I am also 100% in, in the belief that there is a lot of people that are doing this and following this movement because, like we were talking about before with actors, it is the trendy thing to do.

Tim Dillon 25:22 Social.

Joe Rogan 25:22 And then, also, what you're seeing in, like, Portland and Seattle, you're seeing crazy white people trying to light government buildings on fire.

Tim Dillon 25:29 Yeah. They, well, they think if they, if they bash the windows of Amazon, this is the beginning of the revolution.

Joe Rogan 25:34 How-

Tim Dillon 25:34 Right.

Joe Rogan 25:34 ... is it in, at all connected to police brutality?

Tim Dillon 25:36 It's crazy. It is not connected at all to police. It's just anarchy.

Joe Rogan 25:39 Yeah.

Tim Dillon 25:39 It's just chaos.

Joe Rogan 25:40 Exactly.

Tim Dillon 25:40 And when you unleash that... Like, it... In the beginning of this, like, listen, you burn down a Target, it was fine. I even laughed. I said, "Who gives a shit?"

Joe Rogan 25:47 (laughs)

Tim Dillon 25:47 It's in Minneapolis. Like, th- this happened in Minneapolis. So what? A Target gets hit in Minneapolis, the guy gets charged the next day, it's fine.

Joe Rogan 25:53 Right.

Tim Dillon 25:53 But when you unleash total chaos... You know more about violence than anybody. You can't control it.

Joe Rogan 25:58 No.

Tim Dillon 25:59 You can't direct it to the, to the targets that you think are right.

Joe Rogan 26:02 It's also intoxicating and fun.

Tim Dillon 26:04 Yeah. Right.

Joe Rogan 26:04 Like, all those people that are involved in it, wearing masks, showing up every day.

Tim Dillon 26:07 They're having a good time.

Joe Rogan 26:07 They're giving their... It gives their life meaning.

Tim Dillon 26:09 Right, it does.

Joe Rogan 26:10 They're trying to beat the man.

Tim Dillon 26:11 Right.

Joe Rogan 26:11 They're trying to break down the fucking fence they put around the federal building, and they're trying to light that bitch on fire using Bibles.

Tim Dillon 26:17 Right.

Joe Rogan 26:17 They're lighting Bibles on fire.

Tim Dillon 26:19 Jesus.

Joe Rogan 26:19 I mean, it's all chaos. It's all-

Tim Dillon 26:20 It's just insane.

Joe Rogan 26:21 And, and how about the mayor of Seattle is like, "Maybe this is our summer of love"?

Tim Dillon 26:25 Yeah, there, I've never been there. I don't wanna ever go.

Joe Rogan 26:28 (laughs)

Tim Dillon 26:28 Like, I have n- I love it up there. The Pacific Northwest, I hate it. I love it. I know you do. I don't give a fuck about-

Joe Rogan 26:33 I love those people.

Tim Dillon 26:33 I don't care about those trees and the trails.

Joe Rogan 26:36 (laughs)

Tim Dillon 26:36 And they, they all look like vampires. They're pale and gaunt freaks.

Joe Rogan 26:40 (laughs) What?

Tim Dillon 26:40 They're so weird. Amway, that scam started up there.

Joe Rogan 26:43 Did it?

Tim Dillon 26:43 Like, multi-level marketing started up there. Yeah, they're all looking for something to believe in.

Joe Rogan 26:47 Yes.

Tim Dillon 26:47 And that's, that, those are problem areas.

Joe Rogan 26:49 Well, that's where Brett-

Tim Dillon 26:50 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 26:50 ... Weinstein was teaching at Evergreen.

Tim Dillon 26:52 And they-

Joe Rogan 26:52 And that's where they came for him.

Tim Dillon 26:53 Yeah, they were, like, patrolling the campus with bats.

Joe Rogan 26:55 Looking for him-

Tim Dillon 26:56 (laughs)

Joe Rogan 26:56 ... who is like, he's a, is literally as progressive as a human can get.

Tim Dillon 26:59 Right.

Joe Rogan 27:00 And s-

Tim Dillon 27:00 He's also a nerd.

Joe Rogan 27:01 Super n- Yeah.

Tim Dillon 27:02 But yeah.

Joe Rogan 27:02 Super nice guy.

Tim Dillon 27:03 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 27:04 And they, you know, they were coming for him.

Tim Dillon 27:06 It's, it's cr-

Joe Rogan 27:06 (laughs)

Tim Dillon 27:06 I've never liked it. There's something about the Pacific Northwest, I've just never... I never connected with it.

Joe Rogan 27:11 I thought about living there once.

Tim Dillon 27:12 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 27:12 Yeah, it was-

Tim Dillon 27:13 But, I mean, that's your... You love that stuff. I don't give a shit about-

Joe Rogan 27:15 It rains all the time.

Tim Dillon 27:16 I, I know, but that's why these people are out throwing Bibles at the federal building.

Joe Rogan 27:20 (laughs)

Tim Dillon 27:20 It's 'cause it's raining all the time.

Joe Rogan 27:22 Well, I don't know what makes that place so progressive and so left wing. But the thing is that, is that, like, you saw hints of this many years ago where ANTIFA would stop traffic.

Tim Dillon 27:32 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 27:32 They were, like, doing these things and st- And when people would-

Tim Dillon 27:34 And they would get people to say, "Black lives matter." It's like, what's the point of that?

Joe Rogan 27:37 Well, this was before that.

Tim Dillon 27:37 Yeah, okay.

Joe Rogan 27:37 They weren't, they weren't connected with Black Lives Matter. Before the coronavirus thing, before George Floyd, the ANTIFA people was all about right-wing people. It was all about combating right-wing folks.

Tim Dillon 27:49 Right.

Joe Rogan 27:49 And-

Tim Dillon 27:49 Like the Proud boy... They would have those skirmishes.

Joe Rogan 27:51 Exactly.

Tim Dillon 27:51 Right.

Joe Rogan 27:52 Well, that's where the Proud Boys came from.

Tim Dillon 27:53 Right.

Joe Rogan 27:53 They came from Gavin wanting some-

Tim Dillon 27:55 Protecting right-wing speakers.

Joe Rogan 27:56 Exactly.

Tim Dillon 27:56 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 27:57 They wanted someone to fight back against ANTIFA-

Tim Dillon 27:59 Right.

Joe Rogan 27:59 ... who were shutting down-

Tim Dillon 28:00 Correct.

Joe Rogan 28:01 ... people who were speaking at colleges who were right wing, people like Milo or anybody else.

Tim Dillon 28:05 Ann Coulter, whatever, yeah.

Joe Rogan 28:06 Yeah, those kind of people. So, that's where it all came from in the first place. But when you would go to Seattle, they were letting these fucking people direct traffic. Or was it Portland? S- might have been Portland.

Tim Dillon 28:15 Portland.

Joe Rogan 28:16 They were letting these fucking people direct... They were telling people, "You can't go down this road."

Tim Dillon 28:20 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 28:20 And so this old man was like, "I'm going around turn..." And they started chasing him and they kicked his ass. They're beating on his fucking car, like.

Tim Dillon 28:26 Yeah. I don't know why people on Twitter defend that, and I don't know why a lot of celebrities defend it. And I don't understand why a lot of mainstream Democrats don't just call that out for what it is. I've never once seen a mainstream Republican ever, I mean, uh, defend, like, the Proud Boys-

Joe Rogan 28:43 Right.

Tim Dillon 28:44 ... or, or, or that was certainly not their hill to die on.

Joe Rogan 28:47 Right.

Tim Dillon 28:47 Like, if a mainstream Republican defended them, it was very, like, it was a huge news story. Usually, I don't know why... I think the big problem is, it's like things are happening, you see them with your own eyes, and then people tell you that they're not happening.

Joe Rogan 28:59 Right, right.

Tim Dillon 29:00 They're like, "No, that protest is peaceful." You're like, "I saw them light a guy on fire and use him as a battering ram to get into Macy's."

Joe Rogan 29:06 (laughs)

Tim Dillon 29:06 They're like, "Well, you know, he gave them a look." There's always a qualifier.

Joe Rogan 29:10 (laughs) There's people-

Tim Dillon 29:10 There's always this weird qualifier.

Joe Rogan 29:11 Yeah.

Tim Dillon 29:12 They're like, "Well-"

Joe Rogan 29:12 Yeah.

Tim Dillon 29:13 "... here's what happ-" You're like, "They were beating a child." They're like, "Let me explain what happened."

Joe Rogan 29:17 Yeah.

Tim Dillon 29:17 "They were gathered together. They had burning Bibles, bows and arrows, bike locks and chains. That child crossed the street. That child said, 'My dad's a cop.' You see the child starting?" You're like, "No?"

Joe Rogan 29:29 (laughs)

Tim Dillon 29:29 There's always a weird, like, "But they did it first."

Joe Rogan 29:33 You know what it is?

Tim Dillon 29:33 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 29:33 They're the thugs of the left wing.

Tim Dillon 29:35 Right.

Joe Rogan 29:35 They're, they're doing the dirty work that the left wing wants to get done.

Tim Dillon 29:38 They're like theater kids.

Joe Rogan 29:39 Yeah.

Tim Dillon 29:39 They're like people that failed at stand-up comedy-

Joe Rogan 29:41 Yeah.

Tim Dillon 29:41 ... and theater, and they moved back to Portland from LA. And now they're like, "Let's burn it all down. I didn't get a Comedy Central Half Hour."

Joe Rogan 29:47 Do you ever see the ones-

Tim Dillon 29:48 It's truly-

Joe Rogan 29:48 Do you ever see the ones-

Tim Dillon 29:49 ... it's what it is.

Joe Rogan 29:49 You ever see the ones that are, uh, practicing self-defense?

Tim Dillon 29:52 No. (laughs)

Joe Rogan 29:53 They, they train. They actually train. They're like, they were, they were... These ANTIFA people were meeting in the park and they were getting ready for skirmishes-

Tim Dillon 29:59 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 29:59 ... with the right wing people.

Tim Dillon 29:59 Right.

Joe Rogan 30:00 This is, this was all pre-COVID-

Tim Dillon 30:01 Right.

Joe Rogan 30:01 ... when this was funny.

Tim Dillon 30:03 Right.

Joe Rogan 30:03 You know?

Tim Dillon 30:03 Right, right.

Joe Rogan 30:04 'Cause pre-COVID this was funny. When it stopped being funny was, uh... How do you pronounce his last name? Guo? Andy Ngo. Andy Ngo.

Tim Dillon 30:10 Yeah, yeah, yeah.

Joe Rogan 30:10 When Andy Ngo got beat up and they milkshaked him-

Tim Dillon 30:12 Right.

Joe Rogan 30:12 ... and people were mocking. And I'm like, "Hey, wait, blah, blah, blah, blah." Why, why do you think it's okay to beat this guy up?

Tim Dillon 30:17 Right.

Joe Rogan 30:17 Like, why do you think it's okay to steal this guy's camera? Like, no one-

Tim Dillon 30:19 Yeah. What is that?

Joe Rogan 30:20 No one is saying this is wrong?

Tim Dillon 30:21 No one c- Yeah.

Joe Rogan 30:22 Then I started to say like, "Okay, this is, this is gonna be a real problem, because-"

Tim Dillon 30:24 And then the economy got shut down and you could not-

Joe Rogan 30:26 And, and-

Tim Dillon 30:26 ... and you're like, "Oh, this will only make this bigger."

Joe Rogan 30:29 Yeah, way bigger.

Tim Dillon 30:30 And, yeah, "This will only fuel the fire of this," yeah.

Joe Rogan 30:31 But again, it's like, these people who go there, whether they're trying to light the federal building on fire or direct traffic, they have a purpose now. They have a thing, and they have a cause.

Tim Dillon 30:41 Right.

Joe Rogan 30:42 Like when they took over that s- six sec- six block section of Portla- or Seattle rather.

Tim Dillon 30:47 Yeah, CHAZ.

Joe Rogan 30:48 When it was... CHAZ, yeah. Or what was it? Ch- Chow- What, what'd they call it again?

Tim Dillon 30:51 CHAZ. It was CHAZ.

Joe Rogan 30:52 Or CHOP.

Tim Dillon 30:53 CHOP. It became CHOP.

Joe Rogan 30:54 Yeah, yeah.

Tim Dillon 30:54 But it started as CHAZ. But young countries often have, you know-

Joe Rogan 30:58 They change leadership.

Tim Dillon 30:59 Hiccups and... As they develop.

Joe Rogan 31:01 Coups.

Tim Dillon 31:01 I was gonna have that guy on my show, the guy Raz.

Joe Rogan 31:03 Yeah, I was too. Then he got caught with a gun.

Tim Dillon 31:05 I know.

Joe Rogan 31:06 He was handing a, uh, a AK to someone or whatever it was. It was like, yeah.

Tim Dillon 31:08 Yeah, I still would have had him, but we couldn't get a Zoom link working. Uh-

Joe Rogan 31:11 I was gonna have him here in person.

Tim Dillon 31:12 Really?

Joe Rogan 31:13 Yeah.

Tim Dillon 31:13 Interesting.

Joe Rogan 31:14 Yeah.

Tim Dillon 31:14 That would have been fun.

Joe Rogan 31:15 Maybe.

Tim Dillon 31:17 (laughs)

Joe Rogan 31:17 I was like, "Listen, man. I'm support you do-, you know, doing your thing, but you can't bring out a gun." It's like ... And I didn't even know what the thing is.

Tim Dillon 31:24 Well, didn't they shoot ... They shot two people there.

Joe Rogan 31:26 Well, I don't know. He didn't shoot two people.

Tim Dillon 31:27 Well, he didn't but somebody did.

Joe Rogan 31:29 But someone definitely did. The other thing they were doing that was crazy was they basically became a really shittily run country.

Tim Dillon 31:35 Right. (laughs)

Joe Rogan 31:35 They put up borders-

Tim Dillon 31:37 Right.

Joe Rogan 31:37 ... almost immediately.

Tim Dillon 31:38 Immediately.

Joe Rogan 31:38 Barriers, okay?

Tim Dillon 31:39 They want borders.

Joe Rogan 31:40 When people were doing things they didn't want them to do, they were the worst case of police brutality. They just beat the fuck out of people.

Tim Dillon 31:44 They just beat people up.

Joe Rogan 31:45 So if you were trying to film them-

Tim Dillon 31:46 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 31:46 ... doing something they didn't want you to film, they'd just kick your ass.

Tim Dillon 31:49 Well, this is just like if you believe in something really fervently, n- not ... Like it's always the ends justify the means. Like however you get there-

Joe Rogan 31:57 Yeah.

Tim Dillon 31:57 ... it doesn't matter.

Joe Rogan 31:57 Right.

Tim Dillon 31:58 Like anything's justified in the pursuit of this utopia that you think you're going to erect in downtown Seattle?

Joe Rogan 32:05 But also you're doing exactly-

Tim Dillon 32:06 For seven blocks?

Joe Rogan 32:07 ... what you think shouldn't have been done to America. You're occupying land.

Tim Dillon 32:11 Right.

Joe Rogan 32:11 You're taking over-

Tim Dillon 32:12 Right.

Joe Rogan 32:12 ... existing structures. You're kicking out the indigenous people of Seattle.

Tim Dillon 32:16 Yeah. I think ... I ... You know, the shitty thing is like electoral politics isn't perfect, but that's what you have to do. Like look at Cortez. She got elected, you know?

Joe Rogan 32:25 Mm-hmm.

Tim Dillon 32:26 Like the people that believe the things you believe can get elected.

Joe Rogan 32:29 Yeah.

Tim Dillon 32:29 They have to work within the system because all the violence and chaos will do, will give the government a reason to even clamp down more. Now they got people in ... Throwing people into vans in Portland.

Joe Rogan 32:39 Yeah.

Tim Dillon 32:39 The DHS ... 'Cause again, you're not gonna overthrow the government.

Joe Rogan 32:42 Right.

Tim Dillon 32:42 You're not gonna overthrow the military. It's not the way it's gonna work.

Joe Rogan 32:44 Right. They catch you breaking-

Tim Dillon 32:46 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 32:46 ... public property or private-

Tim Dillon 32:46 It's just gonna be an excuse for them to clamp down more and it's gonna ... We're, we're gonna be in more of a police state than we were.

Joe Rogan 32:53 Yeah. The idea that when they did that, that somehow now incited the violence to get worse, like that is ... I don't know if that's true.

Tim Dillon 33:00 No. No. It was, it was chaos every night-

Joe Rogan 33:02 Yeah.

Tim Dillon 33:03 ... for 50 days. I'm not for the unmarked vans. I think that's a bad ... I think all of those things end up being ... Because look at what happened after 9/11. They said, "We're gonna do this, this, and this," and then all of a sudden nobody got any rights back, by the way.

Joe Rogan 33:17 Yeah.

Tim Dillon 33:17 Your emails are still being read.

Joe Rogan 33:19 Patriot Act.

Tim Dillon 33:19 You have no privacy.

Joe Rogan 33:20 Yeah.

Tim Dillon 33:20 All of that's still there. So if we just establish a precedent of like, "Yeah. Some people need to get thrown in a van, and we'll explain-"

Joe Rogan 33:26 (laughs)

Tim Dillon 33:27 "... we'll explain, uh, why that is."

Joe Rogan 33:29 Yeah.

Tim Dillon 33:29 That becomes a major problem going forward.

Joe Rogan 33:32 But did you see when they got thrown into vans how excited everybody else was? "What's your name?"

Tim Dillon 33:35 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 33:36 "What's your name? We'll get you out, friend."

Tim Dillon 33:37 Right. Yeah.

Joe Rogan 33:38 It's like you guys are all-

Tim Dillon 33:39 It's fun.

Joe Rogan 33:40 ... like St- ... Luke Skywalker.

Tim Dillon 33:41 This is what happens-

Joe Rogan 33:41 The Resistance.

Tim Dillon 33:42 ... when you shut a country down for three months. This is the only fun left.

Joe Rogan 33:45 Yeah. (laughs)

Tim Dillon 33:45 Nothing's open anymore. The only fun, fun thing left to do-

Joe Rogan 33:49 No movie theaters.

Tim Dillon 33:50 ... is to overthrow the government, get thrown in a van.

Joe Rogan 33:52 Yeah. (laughs)

Tim Dillon 33:52 This is summer vacation to people.

Joe Rogan 33:55 Yeah.

Tim Dillon 33:55 This is a r- ... You know they used to have those dumb escape rooms that people used to do? These-

Joe Rogan 33:58 I love escape rooms. You shut the fuck up.

Tim Dillon 34:00 They're stupid.

Joe Rogan 34:01 I love them.

Tim Dillon 34:01 But this is a real one.

Joe Rogan 34:03 (laughs)

Tim Dillon 34:03 This is a fun, real one now.

Joe Rogan 34:05 It is a fun, real one.

Tim Dillon 34:06 How fun is that?

Joe Rogan 34:07 Yeah. How do you light the Federal Building on fire?

Tim Dillon 34:08 Now it's, now it's a real one.

Joe Rogan 34:09 Yeah. Yeah. It's, uh, it's interesting, man. And I wonder how these people are gonna transition into regular grownup life after-

Tim Dillon 34:15 Well, I think that ship has sailed, Joe.

Joe Rogan 34:17 ... life as an anarchist. (laughs)

Tim Dillon 34:19 I think regular grownup life, the ship has sailed on both sides. Like the people that were in Charlottesville marching around like, "We're gonna have a white country. We're gonna ha-" I mean these people also-

Joe Rogan 34:29 "They will not replace us."

Tim Dillon 34:30 Yeah. "The, yeah-"

Joe Rogan 34:31 "They will not replace us."

Tim Dillon 34:31 ... "Jews will not replace ..." It's like those people are as well ... You'll never please the far left and the far right.

Joe Rogan 34:37 Right.

Tim Dillon 34:38 Like you'll never ... Like the people that are really on the fringes, they're n- you're never gonna make them happy.

Joe Rogan 34:43 Yeah.

Tim Dillon 34:43 Like Kamala Harris, by the way, is a fine VP choice. Yes, we're all gonna get put in jail.

Joe Rogan 34:49 (laughs)

Tim Dillon 34:49 Yes, she's gonna put you in jail. But guess what? Who is he gonna pick? Elizabeth Warren who lied about being a Native American?

Joe Rogan 34:57 Can't do it.

Tim Dillon 34:57 Like Kamala's good because the people in the middle don't care that she's a cop. No one gives a shit. No one cares. You might care that she locked up people, but the Republican conventions could be very tough to really get people mad at Kamala Harris. They're gonna be like, "Fuck Kamala." Everyone's gonna go, "Yeah." They're gonna go, "She's a cop and she locked up minorities." Republicans will go, "Uh."

Joe Rogan 35:20 (laughs)

Tim Dillon 35:21 "Is this a real problem?" Like I- I just think she ... What do you think? You think she's the worst?

Joe Rogan 35:27 I don't think she's the worst, but uh, I think it's, it's very int- ... Well, somebody wrote on Twitter that the left is very much against sexism and racism, yet they elected someone-

Tim Dillon 35:41 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 35:41 ... or they chose someone to be a VP based entirely on their sex and their race.

Tim Dillon 35:45 Right. But we knew that was gonna happen.

Joe Rogan 35:47 We knew that was gonna happen.

Tim Dillon 35:47 We knew that was ... This is why all these people on Twitter ... And guys that I really like, like I really love Kyle Kulinski and those people. But it's like they were like so mad about it. I'm like, "Guys, didn't you see it was gonna happen?" Didn't you th- didn't you ... Like ev- it's the most predictable choice in history. I was thinking if they went nuclear, Michelle Obama. That would've been wild, right?

Joe Rogan 36:05 She would've won. They would've won.

Tim Dillon 36:07 She would've won.

Joe Rogan 36:07 They would've won.

Tim Dillon 36:07 And Cuomo from New York, who I call Meatball, the governor of New York. Meatball and Michelle Obama win.

Joe Rogan 36:13 Did you see the latest Cuomo thing?

Tim Dillon 36:15 No. What's he doing now?

Joe Rogan 36:16 Kyle, Kyle Kulinski sent me this. Let me-

Tim Dillon 36:18 He's out of control over there. Him and his bro- ... His brother pretended to have coronavirus, by the way.

Joe Rogan 36:22 Uh, they pretended?

Tim Dillon 36:23 Well, his brother Chris Cuomo said he beat coronavirus by doing chest exercises.

Joe Rogan 36:27 What?

Tim Dillon 36:27 Swear to God.

Joe Rogan 36:28 Come on.

Tim Dillon 36:28 There's a YouTube video where Chris Cuomo has gone, "You know, this virus gets in your body and wants to stay there, but you know what? You just start stretching your chest, doing this, you get rid of it." That's ... Literally. I mean, he's ... Never forget. Liar, liar.

Joe Rogan 36:39 Is that true?

Tim Dillon 36:39 Yes. He's a liar.

Joe Rogan 36:40 He said you gotta stretch your chest?

Tim Dillon 36:41 Yes. If you can find it, Jamie, it's real and he said he cured himself.

Joe Rogan 36:44 I just sent you something, Jamie. What?

Tim Dillon 36:45 He cured himself by doing chest exercises and stretching his lungs out.

Joe Rogan 36:49 But the worst part was when he pretended to come out of the basement for the first time when he had already been in a, in a fucking fight with some guy.

Tim Dillon 36:56 Yeah. No, these people are-

Joe Rogan 36:56 He was riding a bike.

Tim Dillon 36:57 They're pathological liars. Both of them.

Joe Rogan 36:59 I don't think that's what the case is.

Tim Dillon 37:01 Okay.

Joe Rogan 37:01 This is my take from a person-

Tim Dillon 37:02 Okay.

Joe Rogan 37:02 ... who's worked in show business-

Tim Dillon 37:03 Yes.

Joe Rogan 37:03 ... for a long time. I think he had a producer that had ... at CNN.

Tim Dillon 37:07 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 37:07 And they had this shot scheduled. "You're gonna ... We're gonna film you coming out of the basement. It's gonna be amazing. You're gonna embrace your family for the first time-"

Tim Dillon 37:14 Right.

Joe Rogan 37:14 "... in two weeks." You know?

Tim Dillon 37:15 Okay. Did the producer pr- make him pretend to have the coronavirus as well?

Joe Rogan 37:18 Look at this. Cuomo's protecting his Wall Street donors from Democratic tax bills.Um, so this is, uh... But the tweet I sent you, Jamie.

Jamie Vernon 37:26 Yeah. It's delayed.

Joe Rogan 37:27 Uh, but there's a... I didn't send you the tweet? Oh, here it is. "New disclosure records show Andrew Cuomo's largest head fund- hedge fund donor just funneled huge money to the Governor precisely the moment Cuomo has been blocking Democratic legislators' bills to reinstate New York's financial transactions tax." That's crazy. That is crazy.

Tim Dillon 37:49 It's nuts.

Joe Rogan 37:50 If that's the tru- if that's the case, if, like, he knew that tax was coming and he blocked it just so that he could get paid?

Tim Dillon 37:59 (sighs)

Joe Rogan 37:59 I don't know enough about finance-

Tim Dillon 38:01 I don't know either.

Joe Rogan 38:01 ... but you used to sell houses. Tell me. Come out with the-

Tim Dillon 38:04 I was a subprime mortgage guy. I mean, I-

Joe Rogan 38:06 Yeah. You know these things.

Tim Dillon 38:06 I mean, wha- I mean, I- I-

Joe Rogan 38:07 You're my guy I go to. (laughs)

Tim Dillon 38:09 Yeah. Well, good. I mean, I- I- I- I- I... It's very possible that he did block it so he could get pa- I mean, these people give themselves raises constantly no matter what circumstances are.

Joe Rogan 38:19 Yeah.

Tim Dillon 38:19 No matter what shortfall the city government's in, these people constantly give themselves raises.

Joe Rogan 38:22 Yeah.

Tim Dillon 38:23 And Cuomo's gotta play an interesting game because Wall Street money is how New York is even alive. If enough Wall Street people leave, you're- they're fucked.

Joe Rogan 38:30 Well, they're fucked right now because-

Tim Dillon 38:30 They're fucked right now.

Joe Rogan 38:31 ... 50% of the taxes-

Tim Dillon 38:33 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 38:33 ... in New York are paid by the rich.

Tim Dillon 38:34 Right, and they're leaving-

Joe Rogan 38:35 It's like 1% of the people pay 50% of the taxes.

Tim Dillon 38:37 Yeah. A lot of them went to the Hamptons, a lot of them got outta the city-

Joe Rogan 38:39 Mm-hmm.

Tim Dillon 38:39 ... and a lot of them are leaving the city.

Joe Rogan 38:41 Forever.

Tim Dillon 38:41 Right.

Joe Rogan 38:42 Yeah.

Tim Dillon 38:42 So, you c- you know, you can shit on the rich, blahppity-blah. I think a lot of them should, you know... A lot of them get a- get out of paying taxes by routing their money offshore-

Joe Rogan 38:52 Mm-hmm.

Tim Dillon 38:52 ... and they do a lotta things they shouldn't do. But that tax base is essential for that city.

Joe Rogan 38:58 100%.

Tim Dillon 38:58 100%.

Joe Rogan 38:59 100%, and this is where they're fucked.

Tim Dillon 39:01 And also foreign criminals. As sad as it is, third world dictators, Chinese amusement park tycoons, Russian oligarchs-

Joe Rogan 39:08 (laughs)

Tim Dillon 39:08 ... and assorted murderers, you need their money.

Joe Rogan 39:12 Yeah, otherwise how you gonna s- sell stock?

Tim Dillon 39:14 That's the reality. Like, they have to come in and launder their money through New York real estate. They gotta come in and buy 10 apartments they don't use, and then their daughter goes to NYU. I, I mean-

Joe Rogan 39:25 The-

Tim Dillon 39:25 ... otherwise that whole city is gonna fall apart. It's not right or wrong, good or bad. It's like, it's just what's gonna happen.

Joe Rogan 39:29 It's just what it is. Did you see Cuomo?

Tim Dillon 39:31 It's just sc-

Joe Rogan 39:31 He was trying to bring the rich people back. He's like, "Come on over, I'll cook."

Tim Dillon 39:34 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 39:34 "I'll cook."

Tim Dillon 39:35 He, they're goon... He's a goon, that guy.

Joe Rogan 39:36 How many people are you cooking for, bro?

Tim Dillon 39:38 He's an idiot. This is that folksy horse shit that they do.

Joe Rogan 39:41 Yeah.

Tim Dillon 39:41 Like, "I'll make a meatball for you." It's like-

Joe Rogan 39:43 "I'll cook for you. Come on over."

Tim Dillon 39:43 Yeah, how about not letting the city get destroyed?

Joe Rogan 39:47 How about not sending sick old people to-

Tim Dillon 39:49 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 39:49 ... the nursing home where they can infect everybody else?

Tim Dillon 39:51 Well, that I was for.

Joe Rogan 39:52 (laughs)

Tim Dillon 39:52 I think a good, I think a good brush fire through the nursing homes is good.

Joe Rogan 39:56 (laughs)

Tim Dillon 39:57 To be honest with you.

Jamie Vernon 39:58 Oh, God. (laughs)

Joe Rogan 39:59 (laughs)

Tim Dillon 39:59 I mean, my mother's in a nursing home. Her, her roommate had COVID for a month. My mother never got it. Every day they would go in and they were like, "Will you..." My mother's an annoying woman, loud-

Joe Rogan 40:09 (laughs)

Tim Dillon 40:09 ... looks like me.

Joe Rogan 40:10 (laughs)

Tim Dillon 40:10 Every day they walked in they're like, "Will you die?" She's like, "I feel great."

Joe Rogan 40:14 (laughs)

Tim Dillon 40:14 So, we're all hoping second wave, but um-

Joe Rogan 40:18 (laughs) .

Tim Dillon 40:18 ... it's like...

Jamie Vernon 40:20 (laughs)

Joe Rogan 40:20 (laughs)

Tim Dillon 40:20 He's... You know? She won't die. The woman's 300 pounds, she won't die.

Joe Rogan 40:24 That's so crazy.

Tim Dillon 40:24 She won't die.

Joe Rogan 40:26 What is she eating?

Tim Dillon 40:27 Everything.

Joe Rogan 40:28 (laughs)

Tim Dillon 40:28 Probably her roommate who died of COVID. She's probably eating her. But the woman won't die, she's indefatigable. Like, they, they can't-

Joe Rogan 40:35 (laughs) That's a great word.

Tim Dillon 40:36 Yeah. I thr- I, I whip it out here every now and then.

Joe Rogan 40:39 I don't know if I can say it right.

Tim Dillon 40:40 I don't think I said it right.

Joe Rogan 40:41 I couldn't say medieval.

Tim Dillon 40:42 Oh, yeah. (laughs)

Joe Rogan 40:43 Here it is.

Tim Dillon 40:43 Here it is.

Joe Rogan 40:43 It's coronavirus bound.

Tim Dillon 40:44 This is how he beat corona.

Joe Rogan 40:45 I don't think that. I think he's just talking about the tightness in his chest.

Tim Dillon 40:47 No, no, no. No, no, no. He is... Stop defending him.

Joe Rogan 40:51 (laughs)

Tim Dillon 40:52 (laughs)

Joe Rogan 40:52 I have to defend all guineas-

Tim Dillon 40:53 This is insane.

Joe Rogan 40:54 ... 'cause I have too much of that in me.

Tim Dillon 40:56 This is h- this is the vaccine for coronavirus, by the way, going like this.

Joe Rogan 40:59 Stretching. He's stretching.

Tim Dillon 41:00 Yeah, he's stretching.

Joe Rogan 41:01 There's not a lot of people stretching. I like how the stairs are behind him.

Tim Dillon 41:03 Yeah, it's all horse shit.

Joe Rogan 41:05 Yeah.

Tim Dillon 41:05 He looks fine.

Joe Rogan 41:06 It's probably a set.

Tim Dillon 41:06 Yeah, it's probably a set.

Joe Rogan 41:07 Probably a green screen.

Tim Dillon 41:08 He's not sick. He's like, he goes, you know... He goes, "This, this virus gets in you and it wants to kill you." But he goes, "You know what I do?" He goes, "I just stretch the lungs, stretch the lungs." The, and i- and it's like, okay, so we shut down the economy-

Joe Rogan 41:18 Mm-hmm.

Tim Dillon 41:19 ... for three months for a virus where you can just-

Joe Rogan 41:21 Stretch your lungs out.

Tim Dillon 41:22 ... you can stretch the lungs and then that's it? Something's off.

Joe Rogan 41:25 Well, th- this virus is fucked up because-

Tim Dillon 41:27 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 41:27 ... if you talk to some people, it's nothing. And I know people that have gotten it that got a headache-

Tim Dillon 41:32 And they're fucked.

Joe Rogan 41:32 ... and their n-

Tim Dillon 41:32 Right.

Joe Rogan 41:32 And then other people that have gotten it and they're fucked still.

Tim Dillon 41:34 Right.

Joe Rogan 41:35 Like, I think Michael Yeo is still having a problem with fatigue.

Tim Dillon 41:37 My man at... My ex-manager's, uh, his wife got it. She still can't smell.

Joe Rogan 41:43 Whoa. How long ago?

Tim Dillon 41:44 Three months.

Joe Rogan 41:45 Jesus.

Tim Dillon 41:45 She still, she can smell a few things.

Joe Rogan 41:47 Jesus.

Tim Dillon 41:48 I know.

Joe Rogan 41:49 Is she healthy?

Tim Dillon 41:50 Yeah. She's a thin, you know, middle-aged woman.

Joe Rogan 41:54 Mm-hmm. Yeah, it's weird and they are also saying that some l- large number of people that get it, they still... They have, uh, heart damage. So af- after it's over-

Tim Dillon 42:04 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 42:04 ... they, they show... Like that baseball player, there was a professional baseball player that has to sit out the rest of the season because he got checked out.

Tim Dillon 42:10 Fucked.

Joe Rogan 42:10 I mean, I think he's 29 years old or something like that-

Tim Dillon 42:13 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 42:13 ... and they found out that he has, uh, some inflammation in his heart that's directly related-

Tim Dillon 42:16 Nobody knows why any of this is happening.

Joe Rogan 42:20 Well, I'd take it back to Brett Weinstein again, 'cause um-

Tim Dillon 42:22 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 42:22 ... Brett, who is a biologist, was saying that this disease has all the markers of a disease that's been i- manipulated for research.

Tim Dillon 42:28 Right. Probably.

Joe Rogan 42:29 He's like, "That's why it does... It, it's so infectious."

Tim Dillon 42:32 Now, manipulated for research, like manipulated so that they can research it or manipulated-

Joe Rogan 42:35 Yes.

Tim Dillon 42:35 ... as like, how can we make something dangerous that might be a weapon?

Joe Rogan 42:38 No, they manipulate it-

Tim Dillon 42:39 Okay.

Joe Rogan 42:39 ... so that they can do research on it.

Tim Dillon 42:41 Oh.

Joe Rogan 42:41 So they can find out what kinda cures they can create for coronaviruses.

Tim Dillon 42:44 Interesting.

Joe Rogan 42:45 The lab that they did, uh, research at was in Wuhan, and it's a level four lab.

Tim Dillon 42:50 Bio-research facility. Yeah.

Joe Rogan 42:51 And they had been cited in 2018 for safety violations. They were getting real sloppy over there because when you're-

Tim Dillon 42:56 Right.

Joe Rogan 42:56 ... working under communism, you don't have a lot of incentives.

Tim Dillon 42:58 Right. Right.

Joe Rogan 42:59 Like, you know, you're not making a lot of money.

Tim Dillon 43:01 (sighs) So-

Joe Rogan 43:02 I don't know if it's true.

Tim Dillon 43:02 ... it's very possible that it... This is a genetically modified virus-

Joe Rogan 43:07 Yeah.

Tim Dillon 43:07 And that, and maybe that's why they, it has all of these different effects on people.

Joe Rogan 43:11 Exactly. Exactly.

Tim Dillon 43:13 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 43:13 And it's probably morphing, like they say the one-

Tim Dillon 43:15 Um, yeah.

Joe Rogan 43:15 ... in India is so different, that if we come up with a vaccine for um, the American version, it's not gonna work on the Indian version.

Tim Dillon 43:21 Is this just the rest of the fr- history now, is just viruses and pandemics and like... I mean this seems to be... 'Cause all the conditions for this, you know, are- are- are- are, you know, gonna still be there.

Joe Rogan 43:35 Yeah.

Tim Dillon 43:35 Like there's still gonna be these wet markets, there'll still be a, you know, a lot of unsafe handling of- of- of- of produce and- and not pr- only produce, but like, you know, different types of animals and it's-

Joe Rogan 43:47 Right.

Tim Dillon 43:47 So this may not be the end of... This may be the beginning of an era of just different types of pandemics and viruses.

Joe Rogan 43:53 Well, they've been warning us about this for a while-

Tim Dillon 43:55 For a while, yeah.

Joe Rogan 43:55 Bill Gates had that TED speech-

Tim Dillon 43:57 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 43:57 ... in 2015.

Tim Dillon 43:58 Said it's coming.

Joe Rogan 43:59 Yeah, and, you know, now he's the devil. Now everybody's like, "Bill Gates wants to give me a microchip."

Tim Dillon 44:03 Well, I don't think he's the devil, I just think people get weirdly uncomfortable when it's like billionaires want to do... Like Bill Gates was considering once shooting a missile of dust at the sun to help climate change. This is a r- a fact.

Joe Rogan 44:13 What?

Tim Dillon 44:14 Yes. So he was considering this-

Joe Rogan 44:17 Wait a minute.

Tim Dillon 44:17 ... and then people-

Joe Rogan 44:17 Wait a minute.

Tim Dillon 44:17 Yeah. Bill Gates-

Joe Rogan 44:18 Where'd you read this?

Tim Dillon 44:19 This is-

Joe Rogan 44:19 What kind of dust?

Tim Dillon 44:20 The um-

Joe Rogan 44:21 Do you know how big the sun is?

Tim Dillon 44:22 Yeah, but Bill Gates was considering shooting a missile full of dust at the sun. (clears throat) So it's like, now obviously people said to him, "Hey, not a good idea," and he relented, but when you have these Batman villain billionaires, not that they're evil but that they have a lot of money, they can do whatever they want, people get uncomfortable with just one guy saying, "This is the way it is and this is what you need." People just feel uncomfortable with that.

Joe Rogan 44:45 You find that? Is that real?

Tim Dillon 44:46 (clears throat) That's real, Joe.

Narrator 44:47 That's on the page this time.

Joe Rogan 44:47 Could dimming the sun save the Earth? Bill Gates wants to spray millions of tons of dust into the stratosphere... Okay, that's different... To stop global warming, but critics fear it could trigger calamity.

Tim Dillon 44:55 Yeah, this is-

Joe Rogan 44:55 Yeah, that's not at the sun.

Tim Dillon 44:57 But it's-

Joe Rogan 44:57 What that is, is suspending particles in the atmosphere that are gonna act as like clouds-

Tim Dillon 45:00 Understood-

Joe Rogan 45:01 Yeah.

Tim Dillon 45:01 ... but the reality is people get a little un-

Narrator 45:04 (laughs)

Tim Dillon 45:04 They get a little uncomfortable when a billionaire from a lair is decided to start shooting dust into the atmosphere and, you know, where is... Where is d- Is there any democratic process here where anybody will ever have any say in anything ever again?

Joe Rogan 45:21 I saw a meme-

Tim Dillon 45:21 Or are we just gonna listen to Bezos and him do... And uh, they could do whatever they want?

Joe Rogan 45:24 Well, it's hard to say because when you're that rich we listen anyway, because we figure-

Tim Dillon 45:28 I know.

Joe Rogan 45:28 ... Bezos has got $200 billion or something. He's, he's must know something that we don't know, we assume.

Tim Dillon 45:33 Sure, but I mean-

Joe Rogan 45:34 Assuming he's smarter than us.

Tim Dillon 45:35 Who knows what... You know, also they have a lot of money, I don't even think they want more money, I think a lot of them just have-

Joe Rogan 45:40 Oh, they want more money.

Tim Dillon 45:41 Well some of them do but they also have... Uh, they just have designs on the way they want the world to look. They have an ideology.

Joe Rogan 45:47 I trust Bezos more than I trust Bill, because Bezos doesn't wear a uniform. Bill Gates wears that Mi- Mr. Rogers uniform.

Tim Dillon 45:53 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 45:54 I don't trust it.

Tim Dillon 45:55 I don't... I trust Warren Buffet-

Joe Rogan 45:57 Yes.

Tim Dillon 45:57 ... because I feel like he's in Omaha just eating eggs-

Joe Rogan 46:01 He lives in the same fucking house that he bought in like 1980.

Tim Dillon 46:03 That's a scam though.

Joe Rogan 46:04 You think so?

Tim Dillon 46:04 He does that, he does that so guys like us will be like, "What a down to earth guy." Like but he's-

Joe Rogan 46:09 Right, $80 billion, lives in a $400,000 house.

Tim Dillon 46:11 Something's wrong. That makes me more suspicious than I would be if he had a man- He should have a big mansion.

Joe Rogan 46:15 Bill Gates, well that's not even his regular outfit. The regular outfit, that's the regular outfit.

Tim Dillon 46:19 Yeah, he's a, he's a little bit of a creep.

Joe Rogan 46:21 The regular outfit is the sweater with the shirt... What do you do when it's 100 degrees, Bill? What do you wear then? You know, does he wear the same sweater with the shirt? Look, he's got that fucking outfit.

Tim Dillon 46:27 He loves it.

Joe Rogan 46:28 But why doesn't-

Tim Dillon 46:28 That's the tech outfit, man.

Joe Rogan 46:30 Yes.

Tim Dillon 46:30 That's the Silicon Valley... They're gonna-

Joe Rogan 46:32 There he is.

Tim Dillon 46:32 People just get very nervous with- with Silicon Valley billionaires.

Joe Rogan 46:35 Well, it's an incredible amount of money.

Tim Dillon 46:37 Some of 'em.

Joe Rogan 46:37 And it's an incredible amount of influence. People are really worried about Mark Zuckerberg.

Tim Dillon 46:41 Yeah, these guys are the new Rockefellers.

Joe Rogan 46:42 Zuckerberg, Carnegie.

Tim Dillon 46:43 And he's fucking really young. He's really young. By the way, speaks perfect Mandarin.

Joe Rogan 46:48 Well he's got a girl who's Chinese, right?

Tim Dillon 46:50 His wife. Yeah, is married. Jesus Christ. I don't know what he's doing. I'm not invited to his home.

Joe Rogan 46:54 You're not? I'll get you in.

Tim Dillon 46:57 I'd love to go.

Joe Rogan 46:57 All you have to do is get your Facebook page over 700,000 followers.

Tim Dillon 47:00 I'd love to go. I'd get banned from Facebook within an hour of being there.

Joe Rogan 47:04 (laughs)

Tim Dillon 47:04 I'd be taken away. I just, I'd just go up to him and go, "Can you get rid of my Aunt Kathleen please?"

Joe Rogan 47:08 There's a crazy video of him-

Tim Dillon 47:09 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 47:09 ... in China and, uh, he's on a television show and he starts speaking in Mandarin and they go crazy. They can't believe he can do it and they're clapping and cheering.

Tim Dillon 47:17 Interesting. Well, it takes very little to impress them, huh?

Joe Rogan 47:19 Well they're just, they're stunned-

Tim Dillon 47:20 He's just a white guy who's doing... Yeah.

Joe Rogan 47:21 ... that here's the guy from Facebook speaking perfect Mandarin.

Tim Dillon 47:24 Wow.

Joe Rogan 47:24 But he's ready.

Tim Dillon 47:25 That's comf- that's comforting by the way.

Joe Rogan 47:27 Oh, he's gonna bring them all in.

Tim Dillon 47:27 The head of, the head of Facebook is yucking it up with, you know, maybe our biggest enemy.

Joe Rogan 47:32 Yeah.

Tim Dillon 47:33 That's nice.

Joe Rogan 47:33 He's gonna be super excited about New World Order. Give me some volume on this.

Narrator 47:36 (chinese) (laughs)

Tim Dillon 47:41 Yeah what he's saying is, "We will destroy America." The translation is, "America will be a prison."

Joe Rogan 47:49 We will send your government-

Tim Dillon 47:51 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 47:51 ... to rule our land.

Tim Dillon 47:52 This is what happens when you're like a genius and you don't get laid in college and you just say, "You know what? I'm just gonna take over the world." This is like Pinky and the Brain but the real thing.

Joe Rogan 48:00 Well he's also a guy who was friends with the people who put together Facebook, right?

Tim Dillon 48:06 Yeah, that's a great movie, Social Network is killer.

Joe Rogan 48:07 I didn't see the movie but I read an article about the actual real story.

Tim Dillon 48:10 It's a really good, you should... You would like it.

Joe Rogan 48:12 The actual real story is kind of fucked up.

Tim Dillon 48:13 Yeah he kind of... Well there were those Winklevoss twins and they had this Harvard dating app or something-

Joe Rogan 48:19 Mm-hmm.

Tim Dillon 48:19 ... and then Zuckerberg came in. I think Zuckerberg had more of a vision of what he wanted it to be but it was certainly sketch.

Joe Rogan 48:25 Yeah.

Tim Dillon 48:25 It was a little sketchy.

Joe Rogan 48:26 A little sketch.

Tim Dillon 48:26 The way that happened. Yeah.

Joe Rogan 48:28 But the fact that they're trying to do money now, they're trying to do Facebook Bitcoin, like a-

Tim Dillon 48:32 Oh yeah.

Joe Rogan 48:33 ... cryptocurrency.

Tim Dillon 48:33 It'll never end.

Joe Rogan 48:35 Never end.

Tim Dillon 48:35 They're never... It'll never end.

Joe Rogan 48:36 It'll never happen.

Tim Dillon 48:36 It'll be Facebook vaccine, it'll be Facebook... I mean, they... It just won't end. I mean, I don't know how it's still relevant like when you go on Facebook now it's just still crazy people screaming-

Joe Rogan 48:48 Yeah.

Tim Dillon 48:48 And- and- and- and they've still kept them all on there. They've kept them on there.

Joe Rogan 48:51 Yeah.

Tim Dillon 48:51 Like Zuckerberg's figured out a way to keep the boomers on Facebook.

Joe Rogan 48:55 Yeah.

Tim Dillon 48:55 Just sharing recipes and- and complaining about you know...

Joe Rogan 48:59 QAnon?

Tim Dillon 48:59 Yeah just talking about QAnon. My aunt's like, "Save the children and here's a recipe for banana bread."

Joe Rogan 49:04 (laughs)

Tim Dillon 49:05 My aunt's like, "There's a tunnel under Central Park and I'm making a banana cream pie later, so if you want the recipe..." I mean literally it's recipes and Q drops, that's my aunt's Facebook.

Joe Rogan 49:13 (laughs) Q drops are the best.

Tim Dillon 49:14 I mean it's... Her head is melted.

Joe Rogan 49:16 I've talked to multiple people that really truly believe in the QAnon stuff.

Tim Dillon 49:20 Well some of it, some of it... Listen, some of it you got to give them the benefit of the doubt. It's like, I don't even blame the QAnon people as much because like...If you were ignorant of everything and you never thought anything was conspiratorial and then Epstein and all this stuff happened, your mind would melt.

Joe Rogan 49:35 Oh, yeah.

Tim Dillon 49:35 And that's what happened. They just... F- I've been listening and following weird shit. I mean, I remember when 9/11 was a big thing, and now nobody even care. Like, you bring that up, people roll their eyes, like, "Will you shut up?"

Joe Rogan 49:44 Remember when things changed and all those documentaries.

Tim Dillon 49:45 Yeah, that was a huge thing and everyone's like, "We're gonna get the answers." And then people just stopped caring, and then you move on to this. And then in five years, QAnon, people are gonna, they'll stop caring, and then it'll be another thing. And eventually, you just have to, like, kinda check out because it gets boring.

Joe Rogan 49:59 Well, you gotta wonder, uh, w- e- th- disinformation campaigns have existed forever-

Tim Dillon 50:03 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 50:03 ... where they take legitimate information and then they lump it in with nuts.

Tim Dillon 50:06 Yes.

Joe Rogan 50:07 Crazy shit.

Tim Dillon 50:07 Yes.

Joe Rogan 50:07 Cra- crazy people and crazy shit, and then they put it out there 'cause it taints all the legitimate information as well.

Tim Dillon 50:13 100%.

Joe Rogan 50:14 You know, there's a great book, uh, Behold a Pale Horse. You ever read that book?

Tim Dillon 50:17 Yeah, William Cooper or something? Yeah, yeah, yeah.

Joe Rogan 50:19 You read some of it and you go, "Oh, this makes sense." And then you go, "What? But what? A fucking alien base on the moon?" Like, "What's going on?"

Tim Dillon 50:24 Yeah. Yeah, and then some of it just goes left.

Joe Rogan 50:26 (coughs) Gets really crazy.

Tim Dillon 50:27 Yes. P- P- Patrice O'Neill had a great point where he's like, "The people will be... They'll then, uh, th- they'll say two things that make a lot of sense and then they'll put marbles up their ass."

Joe Rogan 50:36 (laughs)

Tim Dillon 50:36 (laughs)

Joe Rogan 50:36 (laughs)

Tim Dillon 50:37 That's the way he said it. But it was true, and he said it on O and A. It was like... But it's hard, but eventually, just for your own mental health, you gotta check out.

Joe Rogan 50:44 Yeah.

Tim Dillon 50:45 You gotta just go, "You know what? There's more to life than politics, and there's just more to life than hunting this conspiracy forever." Because it's... None, none of what you think is gonna happen is gonna happen.

Joe Rogan 50:56 I think that's part of what you nai- you just nailed it though. There's more to life, but there's not for some people.

Tim Dillon 51:00 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 51:01 Some people, if they put on a fucking MAGA hat and they, they, you know, they have a-

Tim Dillon 51:04 Right.

Joe Rogan 51:04 ... fucking, uh, uh, Liberals with a line through it-

Tim Dillon 51:08 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 51:08 ... and they go out there and they fucking, "Yeah."

Tim Dillon 51:10 That's it.

Joe Rogan 51:11 And they get to the rally and, "Yeah."

Tim Dillon 51:12 I was, I was out there in the desert. They had all these women and they were in, you know, Mercedes. Like, be- beautiful day, not as hot as it usually is. Women in, like, top down Mercedes. You'd think, like, on a day like that, you just go have take a drive, put an album on, go take a drive-

Joe Rogan 51:25 Yeah.

Tim Dillon 51:26 ... up the mountains, beautiful.

Joe Rogan 51:27 (laughs)

Tim Dillon 51:27 Instead, they had these pink Women for Trump flags, and they all met-

Joe Rogan 51:31 Mm.

Tim Dillon 51:31 ... on a corner and they're all waving their flags. And it's, like, golf people.

Joe Rogan 51:35 Yeah.

Tim Dillon 51:35 It's like w- like middle, you know, upper middle class w- golf people, and this is their sport. It was like high school spirit night.

Joe Rogan 51:43 A wisher well?

Tim Dillon 51:44 Yeah, I- (laughs)

Joe Rogan 51:46 (laughs)

Tim Dillon 51:47 Yeah, that's what it is.

Joe Rogan 51:48 (laughs)

Tim Dillon 51:48 And, and it's just like th- again, I... Thank God I found comedy. Thank God I have something I like to do.

Joe Rogan 51:54 Yeah.

Tim Dillon 51:54 Because I'm... Maybe I'd be somewhere with a flag, waving a flag, running around-

Joe Rogan 51:58 (sighs) That's what it is, right? People need things to do.

Tim Dillon 52:00 ... like a psycho. Nobody has hobbies. Mike?

Joe Rogan 52:02 And right now... Well, not only does nobody have hobbies, but right now no one has a job.

Tim Dillon 52:05 That's a problem.

Joe Rogan 52:06 So there's, like, no money coming in, you're desperate, you're scared-

Tim Dillon 52:10 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 52:10 ... you're blaming other people, everybody else. You don't know who the fuck is to blame.

Tim Dillon 52:14 You have no idea what's going on.

Joe Rogan 52:14 And then there's a disease that might kill you.

Tim Dillon 52:17 Yeah, so they... You know, you're anxious-

Joe Rogan 52:19 Yes.

Tim Dillon 52:19 ... you're depressed-

Joe Rogan 52:20 Yes.

Tim Dillon 52:20 ... your social circle's been cut dramatically.

Joe Rogan 52:23 Dramatically.

Tim Dillon 52:23 And now the only thing you could do is kinda go online for 19 hours a day and get radicalized in whatever direction.

Joe Rogan 52:30 Oh. That's the thing that bothers me too about, like, whenever people talk about, uh, whether it's conspiracy theorists or whatever. Uh, the- the one thing that drives me nuts is that people say, "We have to stop these conspir-" Like when all these COVID conspiracies were going around. (clears throat) That, well, that's a different one, right? Because I guess some of 'em could be actually responsible for people making poor choices that you expect every-

Tim Dillon 52:52 None of those people-

Joe Rogan 52:53 ... day of, um...

Tim Dillon 52:53 ... were gonna make good choices before that thing.

Joe Rogan 52:55 But that's my point.

Tim Dillon 52:56 Yeah, yeah.

Joe Rogan 52:56 It's like if there's people out there that are p- pushing ridiculous conspiracy theories, like wh- who are you worried about? Are you worried about it getting to you?

Tim Dillon 53:04 Right.

Joe Rogan 53:04 No, you're not, right?

Tim Dillon 53:06 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 53:06 You're not worried about you believing it.

Tim Dillon 53:07 Right.

Joe Rogan 53:07 So you think you're smarter than everybody else?

Tim Dillon 53:10 Yeah. Well, I think it's just people get deeply uncomfortable with the idea that they're losing control of the public sphere, the public space, right? For so long you had these, these mainstream media outlets. They had d- real direct control. I mean, everything you saw, everything you watched, everything you read, it was under the control of relatively small amount of people. And this was how it was forever.

Joe Rogan 53:33 Right.

Tim Dillon 53:33 Right? I mean, this was not like an aberration. This was literally how it was forever. Every single thing you read or saw was curated by a small group of people, and now it's the Wild West.

Joe Rogan 53:46 Yeah.

Tim Dillon 53:46 And a lot of people don't... And you're gonna get bad information and you're gonna get good information and you're gonna have to figure out which is which. And the country is not good at doing that. People are not good at doing that. And so people get worried and they're like, "Wait a minute," but you can't put the genie back in the bottle.

Joe Rogan 54:01 Well, the problem is they can.

Tim Dillon 54:03 Right, and they will.

Joe Rogan 54:03 And with like-

Tim Dillon 54:04 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 54:04 ... Plandemic and all these different video-

Tim Dillon 54:06 Right, they ban them.

Joe Rogan 54:06 Yeah, and the video of the bunch of doctors talking about hydroxychloroquine and Z-Paks and when they gave to that-

Tim Dillon 54:11 And that woman who's a witch doctor.

Joe Rogan 54:13 Yeah.

Tim Dillon 54:13 I liked her.

Joe Rogan 54:13 (laughs)

Tim Dillon 54:13 I like that witch doctor and I want to hear more about... I find her opinions on, on, on demons fucking you more interesting than COVID.

Joe Rogan 54:21 She needs a podcast.

Tim Dillon 54:22 She needs a pod- I don't care about hydroxychloroquine, I wanna know who are these demons who fuck you in your sleep.

Joe Rogan 54:26 We should have her on, you and me with her.

Tim Dillon 54:28 Please, if you get her, me, y- you and her would be phenomenal.

Joe Rogan 54:33 We could fly her and she wouldn't even wear a mask.

Tim Dillon 54:35 She would not wear a mask, she'd fight a cop at LAX.

Joe Rogan 54:38 (laughs) Where does she live?

Tim Dillon 54:39 It would be great. I have no idea, Derek.

Joe Rogan 54:41 Where, where does that lady practice with?

Tim Dillon 54:42 Where does that woman live?

Joe Rogan 54:43 She practices medicine in a strip mall. Have you seen it?

Tim Dillon 54:45 No.

Joe Rogan 54:46 It's literally, like, right next to a Zales.

Tim Dillon 54:48 Yeah, but you know, a lot of doctors are bullshit.

Joe Rogan 54:49 Oh, yeah.

Tim Dillon 54:49 Like, a lot of doctors, dude.

Joe Rogan 54:51 Oh, yeah.

Tim Dillon 54:51 A large percentage, especially in LA.

Joe Rogan 54:54 Well, doctors are humans.

Tim Dillon 54:56 Yeah. Right.

Joe Rogan 54:56 Humans go to school, they learn to be a doctor. There's a lot of crazy humans.

Tim Dillon 54:59 You know Whitney Cummings said to me when she goes, "My doctor friend said it's a practice, which means we're still practicing." It's like, well, that's not comforting.

Joe Rogan 55:05 That's not what practice means.

Tim Dillon 55:06 That's not at all what practice means.

Joe Rogan 55:08 (laughs)

Tim Dillon 55:08 ... you freak.

Joe Rogan 55:09 (laughs)

Tim Dillon 55:09 But there-

Joe Rogan 55:11 Practice in medicine means you're doing it.

Tim Dillon 55:11 But LA there's so many doctors. And I'm like, "Do you even have a degree? Did you go to medical school?"

Joe Rogan 55:17 That kind of logic is like when people say program, when t- talk about TV programs. "They're programming you, bro."

Tim Dillon 55:21 Right.

Joe Rogan 55:22 "They're letting you know."

Tim Dillon 55:22 Yeah, it's that stupid, like, linguistic garbage. Ugh.

Joe Rogan 55:25 Yeah, lingui- linguistic nonsense.

Tim Dillon 55:26 What a nightmare.

Joe Rogan 55:27 Yeah, it's such a stupid thing.

Tim Dillon 55:28 Are you, are you... Is there any part of you that's gonna miss Los Angeles?

Joe Rogan 55:32 Oh, yeah. Yeah.

Tim Dillon 55:33 I mean-

Joe Rogan 55:33 I'm gonna miss it, sure.

Tim Dillon 55:34 Yeah, yeah.

Joe Rogan 55:34 I'm definitely gonna miss the store. I'm, but I'm missing the Los Angeles that I don't think exists right now.

Tim Dillon 55:39 Right.

Joe Rogan 55:39 When you go down Melrose and you see everything boarded up and you see fucking homeless encampments everywhere. Like, I took the wife to Venice.

Tim Dillon 55:45 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 55:46 And, uh, I've talked about this before, unfortunately. Sorry if you heard it before. But dr- driving by, I parked at a red light, you know, stopped at a red light rather, and there's this fucking house to my left. It's probably worth $5 million. And right across the street, there's 10 tents.

Tim Dillon 55:58 Right.

Joe Rogan 55:58 So imagine, you- your fucking kid is in your front lawn. You- you- you made it. You got a beautiful house in Venice.

Tim Dillon 56:04 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 56:04 We're five minutes from the beach. I love it. You've got 10 junkies camped out in front of your fucking house.

Tim Dillon 56:10 Right.

Joe Rogan 56:10 And needles in the street. Like, this is crazy.

Tim Dillon 56:13 It's-

Joe Rogan 56:13 I mean, there's fucking tents everywhere.

Tim Dillon 56:15 Yeah, yeah.

Joe Rogan 56:15 I was in Brentwood this morning. It's chaos.

Tim Dillon 56:18 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 56:18 Dude, you get off the 405, it's just garbage stacked up seven feet high in tents, fucking hibachi grills out there.

Tim Dillon 56:26 Yeah, that's why-

Joe Rogan 56:26 It's nuts.

Tim Dillon 56:26 Yeah. I mean, that's why I got this house in the desert, 'cause I'm like, "I just want to get out." And you know, as soon as you get out there, something happens-

Joe Rogan 56:32 Yeah.

Tim Dillon 56:32 ... where it gets really calm-

Joe Rogan 56:33 Really hot.

Tim Dillon 56:34 ... really hot, and there's none of that. It's like-

Joe Rogan 56:36 That's why I'm moving to Texas.

Tim Dillon 56:37 Yeah, yeah.

Joe Rogan 56:37 Same thing. Texas is like that.

Tim Dillon 56:39 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 56:39 Texas is like the regular world, but you wear a mask.

Tim Dillon 56:43 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 56:43 And a lot of people from Texas, you're all upset that I'm talking about it so much and people are moving out there. But I'm sorry. Sorry, you're awesome. Sorry, you got an awesome spot.

Tim Dillon 56:51 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 56:52 It just seems like the... First of all, high population centers. It's just, this is not a time for high population centers.

Tim Dillon 56:58 Right.

Joe Rogan 56:58 This is letting everybody know that the whole idea of like living in Manhattan, "This is gonna be great. Everything's there."

Tim Dillon 57:04 Right.

Joe Rogan 57:04 Like, yeah, all-

Tim Dillon 57:05 It was, it was great.

Joe Rogan 57:06 ... also, all the di- here she is.

Tim Dillon 57:07 Houston, Texas, woo! Firepowerministries.org, I love that.

Joe Rogan 57:13 Woo! Weapon of war. What?

Tim Dillon 57:15 Firepower, yeah. (laughs)

Joe Rogan 57:15 What is that weapon of war? Give me the full image. Hold on a second. You've got... Hold on, back, back, back, back. I can't... Yeah, make it there. Firepower Ministries, what is that? God's Battle Axe and Weapon of War. See that?

Jamie Vernon 57:27 I would have went right to the website, but it was not working.

Tim Dillon 57:29 Firepower Ministries.

Joe Rogan 57:30 But forget about that. Look at what it says there. God's Battle Axe and Weapon of War.

Tim Dillon 57:35 I love it.

Joe Rogan 57:35 I think I need that tattooed.

Tim Dillon 57:36 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 57:37 I think I'm gonna get that on my right leg.

Tim Dillon 57:38 Firepower Ministries.

Joe Rogan 57:40 God's Battle Axe-

Tim Dillon 57:40 I love that, Ammunition Ministries.

Joe Rogan 57:42 ... and Weapon of War.

Tim Dillon 57:43 AK-47 Ministries.

Joe Rogan 57:45 I'm gonna get that on my heel. Yeah, look at that.

Tim Dillon 57:47 Where is she? The Christian Resource Center.

Joe Rogan 57:49 She's right there.

Tim Dillon 57:49 That sounds good.

Jamie Vernon 57:50 There it is, Firepower Ministries.

Tim Dillon 57:51 Firepower Ministries.

Joe Rogan 57:52 Prayer, deliverance, counseling, bookstore, print shop, gifts.

Tim Dillon 57:56 I will send a limo to get you.

Joe Rogan 57:58 Gifts and more.

Tim Dillon 57:59 Bring you to Austin. We'll do a podcast. We're gonna have a good time. It sounds fun. It looks legit.

Joe Rogan 58:04 Yeah.

Jamie Vernon 58:05 Look, there's a whole witchcraft section.

Joe Rogan 58:07 Oh.

Jamie Vernon 58:07 You can see it from here.

Tim Dillon 58:08 Hey.

Joe Rogan 58:08 Well, if you don't get a book on witchcraft, how are you gonna learn? You gotta go to a witch, and they might lie to you.

Tim Dillon 58:13 I'm all for her protecting us from witches.

Joe Rogan 58:16 Well, God's Battle Axe and Weapon of War. Like, imagine right now on your Twitter-

Tim Dillon 58:20 Man, this is her time, huh?

Joe Rogan 58:21 Everybody out there, please listen to me. I've never asked for anything from you people.

Tim Dillon 58:25 (laughs)

Joe Rogan 58:25 I want everybody to update your Twitter bio to God's Battle Axe and Weapon of War. I want everyone to do that.

Tim Dillon 58:31 Yeah, I may do that too.

Joe Rogan 58:32 I'll do that too.

Tim Dillon 58:32 I may do that. God's Battle Axe and Weapon of War.

Joe Rogan 58:35 God's Battle Axe and Weapon of War.

Tim Dillon 58:35 War!

Joe Rogan 58:36 I'm gonna do that right now, hopefully.

Tim Dillon 58:37 I'll do it too.

Joe Rogan 58:38 Let's do that right now.

Tim Dillon 58:39 It's important.

Joe Rogan 58:39 While we're on the... I don't-

Tim Dillon 58:41 It's important to show solidarity with that woman and her-

Joe Rogan 58:44 God's Battle Axe and Weapon of War.

Tim Dillon 58:45 Firepower-

Joe Rogan 58:46 Woo!

Tim Dillon 58:47 ... Firepower Ministries.

Joe Rogan 58:48 Yes, God's Battle Axe and Weapon of War. Okay, profile.

Tim Dillon 58:52 That's so funny.

Joe Rogan 58:53 Edit profile. Here we go.

Tim Dillon 58:55 Everybody's coming out of the woodwork now. Like, you have a lot of different... You know, if you have, if you had anything to do with medicine at all, you could come out now and just, you could, you could build a brand.

Joe Rogan 59:07 Yeah, you could.

Tim Dillon 59:07 She's building a brand.

Jamie Vernon 59:08 It's a Bible verse, apparently.

Joe Rogan 59:10 Oh, really?

Jamie Vernon 59:10 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 59:11 Oh, really?

Tim Dillon 59:12 You are my war club.

Joe Rogan 59:13 Well, yeah, maybe I should leave it alone then.

Tim Dillon 59:15 Yeah. (laughs)

Joe Rogan 59:17 (laughs)

Tim Dillon 59:17 I mean, it's just-

Joe Rogan 59:18 I'm already, I'm already moving to a red state.

Tim Dillon 59:19 She's building a brand.

Joe Rogan 59:20 Yeah, I understand what they're doing.

Tim Dillon 59:22 Yeah. Hey.

Joe Rogan 59:22 You gotta build a brand.

Tim Dillon 59:24 It's just what it is.

Joe Rogan 59:24 You gotta make noise.

Tim Dillon 59:24 Not everybody can be an Alyssa Milano, some, some, some Alyssa Milano. Some people have to be God's weapon of war.

Joe Rogan 59:30 Yeah, battle axe.

Tim Dillon 59:31 Battle axe and weapon of war.

Joe Rogan 59:33 What a crazy Bible quote. There's some Bible quotes that make you go-

Tim Dillon 59:36 Well, they don't... The people like her, they don't want the light touch Bible quote.

Joe Rogan 59:40 No.

Tim Dillon 59:40 They don't want the like, give the old man's soup or whatever. You know, some version of that. They want like, the fires will rain through your eye. Like that type of intense...

Joe Rogan 59:49 Yes, yes, yes.

Tim Dillon 59:50 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 59:51 Yeah, the apocalypse.

Tim Dillon 59:51 They're into that. So many people just really love that vivid imagery from like Book of Revelation.

Joe Rogan 59:57 Yes.

Tim Dillon 59:57 They want that.

Joe Rogan 59:58 Yes.

Tim Dillon 59:59 That's the only part of the Bible a lot of them care about.

Joe Rogan 1:00:01 Yeah, well-

Tim Dillon 1:00:01 They just want the end.

Joe Rogan 1:00:02 They think it's coming. What's going on here? Give me something. Give me some of this. What is she saying?

Narrator 1:00:07 There are some of us that, yes, we gave our life to Christ, but we've been living in sin.

Tim Dillon 1:00:11 Right.

Joe Rogan 1:00:11 Oh, no.

Narrator 1:00:11 There are some of us that we did, you know, we believe that God exists, but we've never surrendered our all to him.

Joe Rogan 1:00:18 It's not reasonable.

Narrator 1:00:19 Those of us that have known God-

Joe Rogan 1:00:20 That's not reasonable.

Narrator 1:00:21 But because of the curse-

Joe Rogan 1:00:22 Don't be afraid to give your all to Christ. That's all I'm saying.

Tim Dillon 1:00:24 I'd feel comfortable if she walked into a, a wait- a hospital waiting room and started treating me.

Joe Rogan 1:00:28 (laughs)

Tim Dillon 1:00:29 I'd feel very comfortable. And then she brought that guy out.

Joe Rogan 1:00:32 (laughs)

Tim Dillon 1:00:32 And she goes, "Now meet my, uh, nurse. This is my head nurse."

Joe Rogan 1:00:35 You know what is interesting though? Is this po- the politicalization. Is that a word?

Tim Dillon 1:00:40 Oh, this is... She's rocking out right now.

Narrator 1:00:42 Are you following me like in the day?

Joe Rogan 1:00:46 That's exactly like de Blasio's wife.

Tim Dillon 1:00:48 That was what- That's de Blasio's wife trying to get, trying to get a response from people in Central Park.

Joe Rogan 1:00:52 Power to the people.

Tim Dillon 1:00:54 Nothing. Yeah.

Joe Rogan 1:00:56 Yeah. Yeah. You gotta wonder.

Tim Dillon 1:00:59 It's a real nightmare out there.

Joe Rogan 1:01:01 It's weird.

Tim Dillon 1:01:02 Yeah, it's really weird.

Joe Rogan 1:01:03 If we can stay alive, it's awesome though. As long as nobody you love dies in this-

Tim Dillon 1:01:06 (clicks tongue) It's a good time.

Joe Rogan 1:01:06 Yeah. I think if we come out on the other end, which I think will be next spring. I think we're gonna go through the fall and then winter, it's gonna be weird. The election's weird. Like, have you ever, have you ever looked forward to three months less- No.

Tim Dillon 1:01:16 ... than these three months?

Joe Rogan 1:01:17 Well-

Tim Dillon 1:01:17 Of just intense-

Joe Rogan 1:01:19 I have intense anxiety about the election.

Tim Dillon 1:01:21 Right.

Joe Rogan 1:01:21 Like, and where I'm like, "Oof."

Tim Dillon 1:01:23 ... yeah.

Joe Rogan 1:01:23 This could be bad.

Tim Dillon 1:01:24 Could go, could go interestingly.

Joe Rogan 1:01:26 It could be a real mess in this country.

Tim Dillon 1:01:29 I think it'll be a mess no matter who gets in.

Joe Rogan 1:01:31 I'd be less of a mess if Biden wins, I think.

Tim Dillon 1:01:33 I think if Biden wins, it'll be less of a mess. And I think people will shut ... I'm hoping people will shut up.

Joe Rogan 1:01:38 Mm-hmm.

Tim Dillon 1:01:38 Like, can people just shut up?

Joe Rogan 1:01:40 They're not gonna shut up.

Tim Dillon 1:01:41 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 1:01:42 They're not gonna shut up. 'Cause first of all, the Trump people, if Biden wins, they're gonna be furious.

Tim Dillon 1:01:46 Right.

Joe Rogan 1:01:47 And, uh, Trump has said that, like, th- this mail-in vote thing is gonna be ripe for fraud, so-

Tim Dillon 1:01:52 He's not ... Maybe he's not wrong about that either. I don't know enough about it, but I don't know why we can't have a regular election with masks.

Joe Rogan 1:02:00 Uh, well, I don't know why we can't entertain the scene as how you and I don't know what the fuck we're talking about. Let's just go all in and say, uh, I believe it could be a fraud.

Tim Dillon 1:02:08 W- the mail-in?

Joe Rogan 1:02:09 Yeah.

Tim Dillon 1:02:09 I think it could be too.

Joe Rogan 1:02:10 I think they should vote online. How come you can do banking online?

Tim Dillon 1:02:13 That can be a fraud too because then-

Joe Rogan 1:02:14 How come you can bank online?

Tim Dillon 1:02:15 ... Russian trolls and Chinese trolls and all the trolls and bots.

Joe Rogan 1:02:18 Meanwhile, you bank online, no problem. What- what's more important to you than your money? Nothing.

Tim Dillon 1:02:22 Nothing. It's a good point. Um-

Joe Rogan 1:02:23 Meanwhile, they've, they've figured out how to do that.

Tim Dillon 1:02:25 Let's just have a regular election. Six feet distancing, masks, spray everything down, in between ... I mean, what are we doing?

Joe Rogan 1:02:31 Look, your phone opens up with your face, right?

Tim Dillon 1:02:33 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 1:02:33 Mine does at least, or- or your fingerprint. Why can't you use that?

Tim Dillon 1:02:36 Well, I just ... I agree with you, but I don't know why we can't have a traditional, regular election with masks and distancing.

Joe Rogan 1:02:42 We certainly can.

Tim Dillon 1:02:43 I think we can. I think it's stupid not to, especially in an election that's gonna be this contentious anyway. We should probably just have a regular election with masks and distancing.

Joe Rogan 1:02:52 I wonder what it's gonna be like at the polls, if people are gonna be intimidating people.

Tim Dillon 1:02:53 And then, like, if really elderly people ... Yes, you should go to nursing homes that are really elderly people and let them, let them touch a computer screen.

Joe Rogan 1:03:02 (laughs)

Tim Dillon 1:03:03 Like, let my mother ... Go in