The Joe Rogan ExperienceJoe Rogan Experience #1529 - Whitney Cummings & Annie Lederman
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Reuniting at the Comedy Store: why comics miss the “back bar” vibe
- JRJoe Rogan
Doo, doo. First of all, how do you two not have a show together?
- ALAnnie Lederman
(laughs)
- WCWhitney Cummings
I don't know.
- JRJoe Rogan
'Cause hanging, hanging with you guys the other night-
- ALAnnie Lederman
(laughs)
- JRJoe Rogan
... at the store, first of all, how much fun was that?
- WCWhitney Cummings
The best.
- ALAnnie Lederman
It was so much fun.
- WCWhitney Cummings
It was so fun. But is that what it... I can't remember 'cause it's been so long. It's been like six months now. Was that what every night was like?
- JRJoe Rogan
A lot of nights were like that.
- ALAnnie Lederman
We just had the craziest... Like a circus freak night.
- WCWhitney Cummings
(laughs)
- JRJoe Rogan
Just fun, just laughing constantly.
- WCWhitney Cummings
The best.
- ALAnnie Lederman
Oh my God.
- JRJoe Rogan
We used to go to the back bar and crack each other up.
- WCWhitney Cummings
Yep.
- JRJoe Rogan
That was the constant thing.
- ALAnnie Lederman
Mm-hmm.
- WCWhitney Cummings
For hours.
- JRJoe Rogan
It was either in the back bar or the back smoking area, and everybody was laughing.
- ALAnnie Lederman
Yep.
- JRJoe Rogan
And y- you get like a low-grade depression when you're not around it-
- ALAnnie Lederman
(laughs)
- WCWhitney Cummings
Yeah, it's so true.
- JRJoe Rogan
... and you forget. You forget for months and months and months. And then we had one night where we were all like, ah!
- ALAnnie Lederman
(laughs)
- WCWhitney Cummings
(laughs) That's so true.
- JRJoe Rogan
Just shooting up and saying ridiculous shit.
- ALAnnie Lederman
I do feel like I had like a crush on the night. Like I kept thinking about it-
- 1:36 – 3:30
Malaria, mosquitoes, and fear of the unknown in public health
- JRJoe Rogan
Yeah, we don't know, right? What if it's an annual thing, it keeps coming back? I have a friend who got malaria, and then he got malaria again when he got sick. So it had been dormant inside of his system. My friend, Justin Wren, he runs Fight for the Forgotten. He does charities in, uh, the Congo where he builds wells for the pygmies. And he's there all... He got malaria three fucking times.
- ALAnnie Lederman
Jesus.
- JRJoe Rogan
And so he goes over there, he gets malaria, like deathly ill, comes back, and then he beats it, does all the medication. And then a long time later, he gets really sick. And when he gets sick, the malaria kicks back in again, and he wasn't even in the Congo.
- ALAnnie Lederman
The mara- malaria's like-
- WCWhitney Cummings
Whoa.
- ALAnnie Lederman
... not to be forgotten.
- WCWhitney Cummings
(laughs)
- JRJoe Rogan
No.
- ALAnnie Lederman
He's like, "This is a charity for me."
- JRJoe Rogan
Malaria has killed more people than anything.
- WCWhitney Cummings
That's right.
- JRJoe Rogan
Like anything ever.
- WCWhitney Cummings
More than wars, I think, right?
- JRJoe Rogan
Yeah. Mm-hmm.
- ALAnnie Lederman
My dad had malaria. He was born in... His da-... He was born in Panama 'cause his dad was stationed there, and he got malaria when he was a baby, but it never came up again.
- JRJoe Rogan
I think-
- ALAnnie Lederman
He never had any problems with it.
- WCWhitney Cummings
Mm-mm.
- JRJoe Rogan
Jamie, didn't we look this up? Didn't it, didn't they say that... Oh no, I fucked this up. That malaria has killed half the people who've ever died, ever? Yeah, yeah, well-
- WCWhitney Cummings
Whoa.
- JRJoe Rogan
Something that like that-
- WCWhitney Cummings
That's wild.
- JRJoe Rogan
That, that's, uh, that... When we looked it up, it's been ex-aggerated a little bit, but it's definitely killed a lot of people, but it's hard to say. Let's say a quarter. If we say a quarter, it's probably pretty- Something like that. Imagine that. Just let's say a qu- 25% of all the people-
- ALAnnie Lederman
Damn.
- JRJoe Rogan
... who've ever died ever-
- WCWhitney Cummings
That's wild. From bugs.
- JRJoe Rogan
... been killed by malaria.
- WCWhitney Cummings
Mosquitoes, right?
- JRJoe Rogan
Yeah. So they just, I just put this on my Twitter, or my, uh, Instagram, that they've released or they're about to release some fucking untold hundreds of millions of genetically modified mosquitoes in the Everglades.
- WCWhitney Cummings
I saw that.
- 3:30 – 5:44
Pee-tape politics and the ‘nothing matters anymore’ election mood
- JRJoe Rogan
Do you think the pee tape is real and is it gonna come out like right before the election? But if it does come out right before the election-
- ALAnnie Lederman
Nobody's gonna care.
- JRJoe Rogan
... but does it work now because of the mail-in thing? Like people are-
- WCWhitney Cummings
Mm-hmm.
- JRJoe Rogan
They're voting already, right?
- WCWhitney Cummings
Right. Right. I, I think we are sort of at a point where nothing fucking matters. We're in this-
- JRJoe Rogan
Mm-hmm.
- WCWhitney Cummings
... sort of like nihilistic thing where it's like if a pee tape came out right now of Trump like peeing on someone, we'd just be like-
- ALAnnie Lederman
They don't care. Nobody ca-
- WCWhitney Cummings
Like as long as it's-
- ALAnnie Lederman
People that like Trump do... Aren't like, "I like him 'cause of how he treats women."
- WCWhitney Cummings
As long as, as long as he-
- ALAnnie Lederman
They don't... "I like how he doesn't pee on women. I love how women leave the room with him dry from urine."
- WCWhitney Cummings
As long as he didn't apologize, he'd be fine. (laughs)
- ALAnnie Lederman
Yeah, exactly.
- JRJoe Rogan
Right.
- WCWhitney Cummings
As soon as you apologize, you're fucked.
- ALAnnie Lederman
You can't cancel Trump.
- WCWhitney Cummings
It's like it's, it's, it's like in a car accident, the first person to apologize, it's their fault, so you gotta just get out in the car accident-
- JRJoe Rogan
Yeah.
- WCWhitney Cummings
... and just be like, "What the fuck, man? What the fuck was that?"
- JRJoe Rogan
But it is a gross thing when someone hits you and then they say that was your fault, and you're like, "Oh, this is the grossest-"
- ALAnnie Lederman
No, never apologize. You told me that your dad taught you that, right?
- WCWhitney Cummings
Never apologize. Yep.
- JRJoe Rogan
In a car accident.
- ALAnnie Lederman
Which you told me-
- WCWhitney Cummings
Never.
- ALAnnie Lederman
... after I got in a car accident. You were like, "The one advice my dad gave me that was-
- WCWhitney Cummings
(laughs)
- ALAnnie Lederman
... the best advice was when you're in a car accident, never say sorry 'cause you'll get blamed for it."
- 5:44 – 9:19
Roast culture, mock anger, and why edgy jokes still work in real rooms
- WCWhitney Cummings
Something that was so important at the Comedy Store the other night is that these last six months have sort of hoodwinked me into believing that like jokes are dead, that we're not allowed to make jokes anymore.
- JRJoe Rogan
Right.
- WCWhitney Cummings
And c- because Twitter-
- ALAnnie Lederman
Right.
- WCWhitney Cummings
... has sort of, you know... We're hallucinating with all the shit we're seeing on Twitter and, and blowing it up to be bigger than, uh, it should be. But like as soon as I saw Tony Hinchcliffe, I through-
- ALAnnie Lederman
(laughs)
- WCWhitney Cummings
I said the most-
- ALAnnie Lederman
Oh my God.
- WCWhitney Cummings
... offensive shit possible, and everyone exploded in laughter. And I was like, "Ah."
- JRJoe Rogan
Yeah.
- WCWhitney Cummings
"The fuck is back."
- JRJoe Rogan
Oh, he's the best for that. That little motherfucker will say the most evil shit.
- WCWhitney Cummings
(laughs)
- ALAnnie Lederman
No, the moment something happens. There's no too soon for... I mean, Tony's like-
- JRJoe Rogan
No, no, no, no, no. Not Tony.
- WCWhitney Cummings
But I don't, I don't think we're designed to just be on the internet. If you're just on the internet and not seeing human beings and making jokes-
- JRJoe Rogan
Right.
- WCWhitney Cummings
... around actual people, you can be tricked into thinking that that shit's real.
- JRJoe Rogan
Well, Stanhope really said it best once. He said, "I could quit comedy, but I couldn't quit comics."
- ALAnnie Lederman
Mm-hmm.
- WCWhitney Cummings
Mm.
- JRJoe Rogan
And that's what the other night was like. Like I've, I've had my little fix where I did a weekend in Houston, uh, a couple, like a month or so ago, but it wasn't as fun as last, that night.
- ALAnnie Lederman
Ugh, it was so fun.
- JRJoe Rogan
That night was the most fun because it was just a bunch of comics-
- WCWhitney Cummings
(laughs)
- JRJoe Rogan
... just laughing at each other.
- ALAnnie Lederman
Stop.
- WCWhitney Cummings
Saying a bunch of shit that will get us canceled.
- ALAnnie Lederman
Screaming, laughing, talking over each other. It was just like amazing.
- JRJoe Rogan
But it's the art form of saying shit you don't really mean-
- 9:19 – 11:19
Meet-cute chaos: Roast Battle origin story and “smile more” backlash
- WCWhitney Cummings
That's where Andy and I met the first time.
- ALAnnie Lederman
Mm-hmm. Oh, should we talk about it? (laughs) Yeah.
- WCWhitney Cummings
Our meet cute story?
- ALAnnie Lederman
We, yeah-
- WCWhitney Cummings
We didn't start off on great terms.
- JRJoe Rogan
Uh-oh.
- ALAnnie Lederman
It was, it was okay, though. It wasn't that bad. You, you texted me so fast after it, though. I was like, "It's so weird Whitney Cummings just texted me." But, um-
- WCWhitney Cummings
You are intimidating. I am gonna say that. There's something very intimidating about you. It's 'cause you're showing your midriff at all times. (laughs)
- ALAnnie Lederman
It doesn't matter, all, all different shapes of muffins, it doesn't matter what genre.
- WCWhitney Cummings
I'm afraid I'm gonna get tetanus from your poops.
- JRJoe Rogan
Well, you're, you're confident, that's one thing.
- ALAnnie Lederman
It's Asperger's, honestly. (laughs)
- JRJoe Rogan
But there's a, there's a fear that you could be mean.
- ALAnnie Lederman
(laughs) Yeah.
- JRJoe Rogan
So that's what people are scared of, that you're confident but you might be mean. It's like, "Ooh, I gotta tread lightly."
- WCWhitney Cummings
She's a beast.
- ALAnnie Lederman
I always think the funniest thing is, like, the truth.
- WCWhitney Cummings
You also dress, you wear military garb, you dress like a Navy SEAL. (laughs)
- ALAnnie Lederman
I do look, like, anti-Semitic, I'm gonna be honest, with these boots.
- JRJoe Rogan
What happened to those boots?
- ALAnnie Lederman
You know, I just was like, "Should I wear-"
- JRJoe Rogan
Those are a choice?
- ALAnnie Lederman
"... sneakers or boots?"
- WCWhitney Cummings
Annie's dad didn't love her.
- JRJoe Rogan
But you bought those.
- ALAnnie Lederman
No, my dad loved me a lot. He just was-
- WCWhitney Cummings
Too much?
- ALAnnie Lederman
Very mean. No, not that much. (laughs)
- WCWhitney Cummings
(laughs)
- JRJoe Rogan
(laughs)
- 11:19 – 21:59
Fame logistics: assistants, boundaries, and the David Spade horror story
- ALAnnie Lederman
Well, you said to me, I was saying, I was like, "I'm, when I'm rich, I'm gonna get a chef." And you were like, "Keep your circle small, Annie." You were like, "You don't want a fucking chef."
- JRJoe Rogan
You don't even want an assistant.
- ALAnnie Lederman
Yeah.
- WCWhitney Cummings
Mm-hmm.
- JRJoe Rogan
Yeah, when you, when you have an assistant, that means you do too much shit.
- ALAnnie Lederman
Yeah.
- JRJoe Rogan
Do less shit.
- WCWhitney Cummings
That's a good point. And by the time you tell someone to do something, you could've just done it yourself.
- ALAnnie Lederman
Yeah.
- JRJoe Rogan
Look, you could get lucky. I have friends that have, have had assistants that wind up being their best friends, and it's great. They're just a cool person that they met-
- WCWhitney Cummings
Yeah, yeah. I kinda have that, yeah.
- JRJoe Rogan
... that needed a job. But I also have friends that got sued by their assistant, and David Spade got tasered and tied up.
- ALAnnie Lederman
(laughs) He got tied.
- WCWhitney Cummings
Almost murdered.
- JRJoe Rogan
Almost murdered by his assistant.
- ALAnnie Lederman
I'm sorry to see.
- JRJoe Rogan
His assistant was trying to kill him.
- WCWhitney Cummings
See, David Spade-
- ALAnnie Lederman
Not a funny bite.
- WCWhitney Cummings
David Spade has on his bedroom door a fucking, a latch, like a, like a Medieval wooden latch that-
- ALAnnie Lederman
And the fucked up part is it's from the, it's from the outside, so when you go in-
- WCWhitney Cummings
(laughs)
- JRJoe Rogan
(laughs)
- ALAnnie Lederman
... you can't leave.
- WCWhitney Cummings
Imagine being a girl going in to hook up with David Spade and he's like...
- ALAnnie Lederman
He's like...
- WCWhitney Cummings
Ka-chunk.
- JRJoe Rogan
"Hey, can I get you something to drink?"
- ALAnnie Lederman
(laughs)
- WCWhitney Cummings
(laughs) It's like, damn.
- 21:59 – 54:34
Magic, pain tolerance, and David Blaine mind games
- WCWhitney Cummings
Let's do a bunch of ketamine and stab ourselves, like David Blaine. (laughs)
- ALAnnie Lederman
(laughs)
- JRJoe Rogan
That's got his cooties on it. It went through his arm. I don't even think we cleaned it.
- WCWhitney Cummings
Good.
- ALAnnie Lederman
Did it really go through his arm?
- JRJoe Rogan
Oh, it f- I pushed it through. I pushed it through his arm.
- WCWhitney Cummings
And then you made you stop for a second?
- JRJoe Rogan
Yeah. We, I hit a nerve the first time, then I had to back out and do it again. I didn't wanna do it. He wanted-
- ALAnnie Lederman
Did the frog live?
- JRJoe Rogan
Yeah, yeah. The frog was fine.
- ALAnnie Lederman
He shit the frog out?
- JRJoe Rogan
He o- threw it up in my hand.
- ALAnnie Lederman
Do you know that there's a book called Eat That Frog! that's like about getting your work done in the morning? (laughs)
- WCWhitney Cummings
(laughs)
- ALAnnie Lederman
It's just funny, he literally eat the, ate the frog.
- JRJoe Rogan
Oh, like eat it and just like get it over with. Just get it done.
- ALAnnie Lederman
Like get the worst part done.
- JRJoe Rogan
Mm-hmm.
- WCWhitney Cummings
Huh. Annie and I have swallowed way weirder things, to be honest.
- ALAnnie Lederman
I know. It's really weird.
- JRJoe Rogan
It's a...
- ALAnnie Lederman
We've swallowed a lot, honestly.
- JRJoe Rogan
That's, that's not even a sharp ice pick.
- WCWhitney Cummings
This is cr- did it make a sound at all?
- JRJoe Rogan
No. It just was like puncturing a steak.
- WCWhitney Cummings
And it wasn't... You picked the spot that you stabbed.
- JRJoe Rogan
Well, he kind of pointed me towards his arm, like what area's a better place to go through. But it was bleeding. I mean, I-
- ALAnnie Lederman
Do you think it would taste like elk?
- JRJoe Rogan
I don't think so. I think people taste like pigs.
- ALAnnie Lederman
Mm.
- 42:51 – 49:24
Sex extremes to obscenity law: fisting videos and Florida prosecutions
- JRJoe Rogan
You should see the shit Segura sends me. Jesus Christ.
- WCWhitney Cummings
Okay, good. So he'll get-
- JRJoe Rogan
I played it yesterday for Nikki Glaser. It's this girl fisting herself.
- ALAnnie Lederman
(laughs)
- JRJoe Rogan
But in the most preposterous way, where you're like, "What?"
- ALAnnie Lederman
Well, is there a way that's not preposterous?
- WCWhitney Cummings
(laughs) Yeah.
- JRJoe Rogan
No, no, no, this, this is, this is a different thing.
- WCWhitney Cummings
Uh, is fisting real?
- JRJoe Rogan
Oh, I'll show you.
- WCWhitney Cummings
You can put your entire-
- ALAnnie Lederman
But you know what it is? It's this.
- WCWhitney Cummings
That's right, that's right.
- ALAnnie Lederman
I realize, I don't-
- WCWhitney Cummings
It's putting all your fingers together. It's not like a...
- JRJoe Rogan
Listen to me.
- WCWhitney Cummings
It's not a punch.
- ALAnnie Lederman
You go in.
- JRJoe Rogan
Listen.
- ALAnnie Lederman
Jamie, you've been fisted. Tell us. (laughs)
- JRJoe Rogan
Here you go.
- ALAnnie Lederman
Send your reactions for this video. (laughs)
- WCWhitney Cummings
Oh. Wait, hold on, hold on.
- JRJoe Rogan
(laughs) Your face. "Hold on, hold on."
- WCWhitney Cummings
Oh, my God. It's me. (laughs) Oh, no. This girl just stole your act, Annie.
- JRJoe Rogan
(laughs) Just stole my fisting act. Preposterous is the right word, right? Well, it's gotta hurt. Why are you punching yourself? You have a bruised cervix.
- WCWhitney Cummings
It does kinda look like Christina. (laughs)
- JRJoe Rogan
I don't think it is, but, uh... A bruised ass cervix. Uh, anything that's fucked up like that, Tom Segura will send it to me. It looks like the opposite of having a baby.
- WCWhitney Cummings
I know. (laughs) You guys have the most fucked up shit and I'm like, "I'm so going to jail for this." (laughs)
- JRJoe Rogan
But you're not. I think that's legal. I'm pretty sure that's legal. Yeah.
- 49:24 – 56:18
Fear Factor behind-the-scenes: donkey fluids, bull stunts, and contagion puking
- ALAnnie Lederman
Oh, my gosh.
- JRJoe Rogan
Yeah. And I know that because of-
- WCWhitney Cummings
That's someone's job.
- ALAnnie Lederman
... Fear Factor.
- WCWhitney Cummings
That's someone's job. (laughs)
- JRJoe Rogan
No, because of Fear Factor. We made people drink donkey cum.
- ALAnnie Lederman
Did you ever drink the bad stuff? Did you ever taste it?
- JRJoe Rogan
I didn't drink that, but I ate a bunch of things. I ate a cockroach, a Madagascar giant hissing cockroach. I ate, um, tomato wh-
- ALAnnie Lederman
And it popped in your mouth?
- JRJoe Rogan
Oh, it destroyed... It just was all chewy and-
- ALAnnie Lederman
Did it taste good at all?
- JRJoe Rogan
No, but it didn't taste bad. It's just-
- WCWhitney Cummings
Was it alive?
- JRJoe Rogan
... it's a mind fuck, yeah.
- WCWhitney Cummings
Dude.
- JRJoe Rogan
It's a mind fuck. It's not... It doesn't taste bad. It's almost like tasteless.
- ALAnnie Lederman
Yeah.
- WCWhitney Cummings
The legs, dude.
- JRJoe Rogan
No big deal.
- WCWhitney Cummings
The legs are what get me.
- JRJoe Rogan
Yeah, but it's basically a lobster.
- ALAnnie Lederman
They're the best part.
- JRJoe Rogan
Like a lobster-
- ALAnnie Lederman
Mm.
- JRJoe Rogan
... is a bug.
- WCWhitney Cummings
Oh, yeah.
- JRJoe Rogan
It's not much different.
- WCWhitney Cummings
Right.
- JRJoe Rogan
It really isn't. It's all just in your head.
- WCWhitney Cummings
It's psychological-
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