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Joe Rogan Experience #1529 - Whitney Cummings & Annie Lederman

Whitney Cummings is a stand up comedian, actress, writer, and producer. Check out her new podcast “Good For You” on Apple Podcasts & Spotify. @whitneycummings Annie Lederman is a stand up comedian. She is also the host of “MEANSPIRATION” podcast on All Things Comedy. @annielederman

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Aug 21, 20203h 9mWatch on YouTube ↗

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  1. 0:001:36

    Reuniting at the Comedy Store: why comics miss the “back bar” vibe

    1. JR

      Doo, doo. First of all, how do you two not have a show together?

    2. AL

      (laughs)

    3. WC

      I don't know.

    4. JR

      'Cause hanging, hanging with you guys the other night-

    5. AL

      (laughs)

    6. JR

      ... at the store, first of all, how much fun was that?

    7. WC

      The best.

    8. AL

      It was so much fun.

    9. WC

      It was so fun. But is that what it... I can't remember 'cause it's been so long. It's been like six months now. Was that what every night was like?

    10. JR

      A lot of nights were like that.

    11. AL

      We just had the craziest... Like a circus freak night.

    12. WC

      (laughs)

    13. JR

      Just fun, just laughing constantly.

    14. WC

      The best.

    15. AL

      Oh my God.

    16. JR

      We used to go to the back bar and crack each other up.

    17. WC

      Yep.

    18. JR

      That was the constant thing.

    19. AL

      Mm-hmm.

    20. WC

      For hours.

    21. JR

      It was either in the back bar or the back smoking area, and everybody was laughing.

    22. AL

      Yep.

    23. JR

      And y- you get like a low-grade depression when you're not around it-

    24. AL

      (laughs)

    25. WC

      Yeah, it's so true.

    26. JR

      ... and you forget. You forget for months and months and months. And then we had one night where we were all like, ah!

    27. AL

      (laughs)

    28. WC

      (laughs) That's so true.

    29. JR

      Just shooting up and saying ridiculous shit.

    30. AL

      I do feel like I had like a crush on the night. Like I kept thinking about it-

  2. 1:363:30

    Malaria, mosquitoes, and fear of the unknown in public health

    1. JR

      Yeah, we don't know, right? What if it's an annual thing, it keeps coming back? I have a friend who got malaria, and then he got malaria again when he got sick. So it had been dormant inside of his system. My friend, Justin Wren, he runs Fight for the Forgotten. He does charities in, uh, the Congo where he builds wells for the pygmies. And he's there all... He got malaria three fucking times.

    2. AL

      Jesus.

    3. JR

      And so he goes over there, he gets malaria, like deathly ill, comes back, and then he beats it, does all the medication. And then a long time later, he gets really sick. And when he gets sick, the malaria kicks back in again, and he wasn't even in the Congo.

    4. AL

      The mara- malaria's like-

    5. WC

      Whoa.

    6. AL

      ... not to be forgotten.

    7. WC

      (laughs)

    8. JR

      No.

    9. AL

      He's like, "This is a charity for me."

    10. JR

      Malaria has killed more people than anything.

    11. WC

      That's right.

    12. JR

      Like anything ever.

    13. WC

      More than wars, I think, right?

    14. JR

      Yeah. Mm-hmm.

    15. AL

      My dad had malaria. He was born in... His da-... He was born in Panama 'cause his dad was stationed there, and he got malaria when he was a baby, but it never came up again.

    16. JR

      I think-

    17. AL

      He never had any problems with it.

    18. WC

      Mm-mm.

    19. JR

      Jamie, didn't we look this up? Didn't it, didn't they say that... Oh no, I fucked this up. That malaria has killed half the people who've ever died, ever? Yeah, yeah, well-

    20. WC

      Whoa.

    21. JR

      Something that like that-

    22. WC

      That's wild.

    23. JR

      That, that's, uh, that... When we looked it up, it's been ex-aggerated a little bit, but it's definitely killed a lot of people, but it's hard to say. Let's say a quarter. If we say a quarter, it's probably pretty- Something like that. Imagine that. Just let's say a qu- 25% of all the people-

    24. AL

      Damn.

    25. JR

      ... who've ever died ever-

    26. WC

      That's wild. From bugs.

    27. JR

      ... been killed by malaria.

    28. WC

      Mosquitoes, right?

    29. JR

      Yeah. So they just, I just put this on my Twitter, or my, uh, Instagram, that they've released or they're about to release some fucking untold hundreds of millions of genetically modified mosquitoes in the Everglades.

    30. WC

      I saw that.

  3. 3:305:44

    Pee-tape politics and the ‘nothing matters anymore’ election mood

    1. JR

      Do you think the pee tape is real and is it gonna come out like right before the election? But if it does come out right before the election-

    2. AL

      Nobody's gonna care.

    3. JR

      ... but does it work now because of the mail-in thing? Like people are-

    4. WC

      Mm-hmm.

    5. JR

      They're voting already, right?

    6. WC

      Right. Right. I, I think we are sort of at a point where nothing fucking matters. We're in this-

    7. JR

      Mm-hmm.

    8. WC

      ... sort of like nihilistic thing where it's like if a pee tape came out right now of Trump like peeing on someone, we'd just be like-

    9. AL

      They don't care. Nobody ca-

    10. WC

      Like as long as it's-

    11. AL

      People that like Trump do... Aren't like, "I like him 'cause of how he treats women."

    12. WC

      As long as, as long as he-

    13. AL

      They don't... "I like how he doesn't pee on women. I love how women leave the room with him dry from urine."

    14. WC

      As long as he didn't apologize, he'd be fine. (laughs)

    15. AL

      Yeah, exactly.

    16. JR

      Right.

    17. WC

      As soon as you apologize, you're fucked.

    18. AL

      You can't cancel Trump.

    19. WC

      It's like it's, it's, it's like in a car accident, the first person to apologize, it's their fault, so you gotta just get out in the car accident-

    20. JR

      Yeah.

    21. WC

      ... and just be like, "What the fuck, man? What the fuck was that?"

    22. JR

      But it is a gross thing when someone hits you and then they say that was your fault, and you're like, "Oh, this is the grossest-"

    23. AL

      No, never apologize. You told me that your dad taught you that, right?

    24. WC

      Never apologize. Yep.

    25. JR

      In a car accident.

    26. AL

      Which you told me-

    27. WC

      Never.

    28. AL

      ... after I got in a car accident. You were like, "The one advice my dad gave me that was-

    29. WC

      (laughs)

    30. AL

      ... the best advice was when you're in a car accident, never say sorry 'cause you'll get blamed for it."

  4. 5:449:19

    Roast culture, mock anger, and why edgy jokes still work in real rooms

    1. WC

      Something that was so important at the Comedy Store the other night is that these last six months have sort of hoodwinked me into believing that like jokes are dead, that we're not allowed to make jokes anymore.

    2. JR

      Right.

    3. WC

      And c- because Twitter-

    4. AL

      Right.

    5. WC

      ... has sort of, you know... We're hallucinating with all the shit we're seeing on Twitter and, and blowing it up to be bigger than, uh, it should be. But like as soon as I saw Tony Hinchcliffe, I through-

    6. AL

      (laughs)

    7. WC

      I said the most-

    8. AL

      Oh my God.

    9. WC

      ... offensive shit possible, and everyone exploded in laughter. And I was like, "Ah."

    10. JR

      Yeah.

    11. WC

      "The fuck is back."

    12. JR

      Oh, he's the best for that. That little motherfucker will say the most evil shit.

    13. WC

      (laughs)

    14. AL

      No, the moment something happens. There's no too soon for... I mean, Tony's like-

    15. JR

      No, no, no, no, no. Not Tony.

    16. WC

      But I don't, I don't think we're designed to just be on the internet. If you're just on the internet and not seeing human beings and making jokes-

    17. JR

      Right.

    18. WC

      ... around actual people, you can be tricked into thinking that that shit's real.

    19. JR

      Well, Stanhope really said it best once. He said, "I could quit comedy, but I couldn't quit comics."

    20. AL

      Mm-hmm.

    21. WC

      Mm.

    22. JR

      And that's what the other night was like. Like I've, I've had my little fix where I did a weekend in Houston, uh, a couple, like a month or so ago, but it wasn't as fun as last, that night.

    23. AL

      Ugh, it was so fun.

    24. JR

      That night was the most fun because it was just a bunch of comics-

    25. WC

      (laughs)

    26. JR

      ... just laughing at each other.

    27. AL

      Stop.

    28. WC

      Saying a bunch of shit that will get us canceled.

    29. AL

      Screaming, laughing, talking over each other. It was just like amazing.

    30. JR

      But it's the art form of saying shit you don't really mean-

  5. 9:1911:19

    Meet-cute chaos: Roast Battle origin story and “smile more” backlash

    1. WC

      That's where Andy and I met the first time.

    2. AL

      Mm-hmm. Oh, should we talk about it? (laughs) Yeah.

    3. WC

      Our meet cute story?

    4. AL

      We, yeah-

    5. WC

      We didn't start off on great terms.

    6. JR

      Uh-oh.

    7. AL

      It was, it was okay, though. It wasn't that bad. You, you texted me so fast after it, though. I was like, "It's so weird Whitney Cummings just texted me." But, um-

    8. WC

      You are intimidating. I am gonna say that. There's something very intimidating about you. It's 'cause you're showing your midriff at all times. (laughs)

    9. AL

      It doesn't matter, all, all different shapes of muffins, it doesn't matter what genre.

    10. WC

      I'm afraid I'm gonna get tetanus from your poops.

    11. JR

      Well, you're, you're confident, that's one thing.

    12. AL

      It's Asperger's, honestly. (laughs)

    13. JR

      But there's a, there's a fear that you could be mean.

    14. AL

      (laughs) Yeah.

    15. JR

      So that's what people are scared of, that you're confident but you might be mean. It's like, "Ooh, I gotta tread lightly."

    16. WC

      She's a beast.

    17. AL

      I always think the funniest thing is, like, the truth.

    18. WC

      You also dress, you wear military garb, you dress like a Navy SEAL. (laughs)

    19. AL

      I do look, like, anti-Semitic, I'm gonna be honest, with these boots.

    20. JR

      What happened to those boots?

    21. AL

      You know, I just was like, "Should I wear-"

    22. JR

      Those are a choice?

    23. AL

      "... sneakers or boots?"

    24. WC

      Annie's dad didn't love her.

    25. JR

      But you bought those.

    26. AL

      No, my dad loved me a lot. He just was-

    27. WC

      Too much?

    28. AL

      Very mean. No, not that much. (laughs)

    29. WC

      (laughs)

    30. JR

      (laughs)

  6. 11:1921:59

    Fame logistics: assistants, boundaries, and the David Spade horror story

    1. AL

      Well, you said to me, I was saying, I was like, "I'm, when I'm rich, I'm gonna get a chef." And you were like, "Keep your circle small, Annie." You were like, "You don't want a fucking chef."

    2. JR

      You don't even want an assistant.

    3. AL

      Yeah.

    4. WC

      Mm-hmm.

    5. JR

      Yeah, when you, when you have an assistant, that means you do too much shit.

    6. AL

      Yeah.

    7. JR

      Do less shit.

    8. WC

      That's a good point. And by the time you tell someone to do something, you could've just done it yourself.

    9. AL

      Yeah.

    10. JR

      Look, you could get lucky. I have friends that have, have had assistants that wind up being their best friends, and it's great. They're just a cool person that they met-

    11. WC

      Yeah, yeah. I kinda have that, yeah.

    12. JR

      ... that needed a job. But I also have friends that got sued by their assistant, and David Spade got tasered and tied up.

    13. AL

      (laughs) He got tied.

    14. WC

      Almost murdered.

    15. JR

      Almost murdered by his assistant.

    16. AL

      I'm sorry to see.

    17. JR

      His assistant was trying to kill him.

    18. WC

      See, David Spade-

    19. AL

      Not a funny bite.

    20. WC

      David Spade has on his bedroom door a fucking, a latch, like a, like a Medieval wooden latch that-

    21. AL

      And the fucked up part is it's from the, it's from the outside, so when you go in-

    22. WC

      (laughs)

    23. JR

      (laughs)

    24. AL

      ... you can't leave.

    25. WC

      Imagine being a girl going in to hook up with David Spade and he's like...

    26. AL

      He's like...

    27. WC

      Ka-chunk.

    28. JR

      "Hey, can I get you something to drink?"

    29. AL

      (laughs)

    30. WC

      (laughs) It's like, damn.

  7. 21:5954:34

    Magic, pain tolerance, and David Blaine mind games

    1. WC

      Let's do a bunch of ketamine and stab ourselves, like David Blaine. (laughs)

    2. AL

      (laughs)

    3. JR

      That's got his cooties on it. It went through his arm. I don't even think we cleaned it.

    4. WC

      Good.

    5. AL

      Did it really go through his arm?

    6. JR

      Oh, it f- I pushed it through. I pushed it through his arm.

    7. WC

      And then you made you stop for a second?

    8. JR

      Yeah. We, I hit a nerve the first time, then I had to back out and do it again. I didn't wanna do it. He wanted-

    9. AL

      Did the frog live?

    10. JR

      Yeah, yeah. The frog was fine.

    11. AL

      He shit the frog out?

    12. JR

      He o- threw it up in my hand.

    13. AL

      Do you know that there's a book called Eat That Frog! that's like about getting your work done in the morning? (laughs)

    14. WC

      (laughs)

    15. AL

      It's just funny, he literally eat the, ate the frog.

    16. JR

      Oh, like eat it and just like get it over with. Just get it done.

    17. AL

      Like get the worst part done.

    18. JR

      Mm-hmm.

    19. WC

      Huh. Annie and I have swallowed way weirder things, to be honest.

    20. AL

      I know. It's really weird.

    21. JR

      It's a...

    22. AL

      We've swallowed a lot, honestly.

    23. JR

      That's, that's not even a sharp ice pick.

    24. WC

      This is cr- did it make a sound at all?

    25. JR

      No. It just was like puncturing a steak.

    26. WC

      And it wasn't... You picked the spot that you stabbed.

    27. JR

      Well, he kind of pointed me towards his arm, like what area's a better place to go through. But it was bleeding. I mean, I-

    28. AL

      Do you think it would taste like elk?

    29. JR

      I don't think so. I think people taste like pigs.

    30. AL

      Mm.

  8. 42:5149:24

    Sex extremes to obscenity law: fisting videos and Florida prosecutions

    1. JR

      You should see the shit Segura sends me. Jesus Christ.

    2. WC

      Okay, good. So he'll get-

    3. JR

      I played it yesterday for Nikki Glaser. It's this girl fisting herself.

    4. AL

      (laughs)

    5. JR

      But in the most preposterous way, where you're like, "What?"

    6. AL

      Well, is there a way that's not preposterous?

    7. WC

      (laughs) Yeah.

    8. JR

      No, no, no, this, this is, this is a different thing.

    9. WC

      Uh, is fisting real?

    10. JR

      Oh, I'll show you.

    11. WC

      You can put your entire-

    12. AL

      But you know what it is? It's this.

    13. WC

      That's right, that's right.

    14. AL

      I realize, I don't-

    15. WC

      It's putting all your fingers together. It's not like a...

    16. JR

      Listen to me.

    17. WC

      It's not a punch.

    18. AL

      You go in.

    19. JR

      Listen.

    20. AL

      Jamie, you've been fisted. Tell us. (laughs)

    21. JR

      Here you go.

    22. AL

      Send your reactions for this video. (laughs)

    23. WC

      Oh. Wait, hold on, hold on.

    24. JR

      (laughs) Your face. "Hold on, hold on."

    25. WC

      Oh, my God. It's me. (laughs) Oh, no. This girl just stole your act, Annie.

    26. JR

      (laughs) Just stole my fisting act. Preposterous is the right word, right? Well, it's gotta hurt. Why are you punching yourself? You have a bruised cervix.

    27. WC

      It does kinda look like Christina. (laughs)

    28. JR

      I don't think it is, but, uh... A bruised ass cervix. Uh, anything that's fucked up like that, Tom Segura will send it to me. It looks like the opposite of having a baby.

    29. WC

      I know. (laughs) You guys have the most fucked up shit and I'm like, "I'm so going to jail for this." (laughs)

    30. JR

      But you're not. I think that's legal. I'm pretty sure that's legal. Yeah.

  9. 49:2456:18

    Fear Factor behind-the-scenes: donkey fluids, bull stunts, and contagion puking

    1. AL

      Oh, my gosh.

    2. JR

      Yeah. And I know that because of-

    3. WC

      That's someone's job.

    4. AL

      ... Fear Factor.

    5. WC

      That's someone's job. (laughs)

    6. JR

      No, because of Fear Factor. We made people drink donkey cum.

    7. AL

      Did you ever drink the bad stuff? Did you ever taste it?

    8. JR

      I didn't drink that, but I ate a bunch of things. I ate a cockroach, a Madagascar giant hissing cockroach. I ate, um, tomato wh-

    9. AL

      And it popped in your mouth?

    10. JR

      Oh, it destroyed... It just was all chewy and-

    11. AL

      Did it taste good at all?

    12. JR

      No, but it didn't taste bad. It's just-

    13. WC

      Was it alive?

    14. JR

      ... it's a mind fuck, yeah.

    15. WC

      Dude.

    16. JR

      It's a mind fuck. It's not... It doesn't taste bad. It's almost like tasteless.

    17. AL

      Yeah.

    18. WC

      The legs, dude.

    19. JR

      No big deal.

    20. WC

      The legs are what get me.

    21. JR

      Yeah, but it's basically a lobster.

    22. AL

      They're the best part.

    23. JR

      Like a lobster-

    24. AL

      Mm.

    25. JR

      ... is a bug.

    26. WC

      Oh, yeah.

    27. JR

      It's not much different.

    28. WC

      Right.

    29. JR

      It really isn't. It's all just in your head.

    30. WC

      It's psychological-

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