Joe Rogan Experience #1530 - Duncan Trussell

1. 0:00 – 15:00

   (drum music) Joe Rogan podcast,…

   1. JRJoe Rogan0:00

      (drum music) Joe Rogan podcast, check it out.

   2. NANarrator0:03

      The Joe Rogan Experience. Train by day, Joe Rogan podcast by night. All day. (energetic music) Hello, Duncan.

   3. DTDuncan Trussell0:15

      Hello, Joe. How are you, my friend? I'm great, man. I'm psyched to be here.

   4. JRJoe Rogan0:18

      Cheers, sir.

   5. DTDuncan Trussell0:19

      Cheers, brother.

   6. JRJoe Rogan0:20

      So good to see you.

   7. DTDuncan Trussell0:21

      Hare Krishna.

   8. JRJoe Rogan0:21

      Hare Krishna.

   9. DTDuncan Trussell0:22

      Great to see you. Mm. Mm.

   10. JRJoe Rogan0:24

       Always.

   11. DTDuncan Trussell0:26

       That's good.

   12. JRJoe Rogan0:27

       My friend, it's a strange time and uh, we're both departing this land.

   13. DTDuncan Trussell0:33

       I know.

   14. JRJoe Rogan0:33

       For greener pastures.

   15. DTDuncan Trussell0:35

       I keep thinking back to when we first became friends and the strange path since from there to here. And all our predictions and all the things that we... W- we never would have imagined this. You know, specifically, like, that there would be this fucking global pandemic that we would suddenly be, like...

   16. JRJoe Rogan1:01

       (coughs)

   17. DTDuncan Trussell1:01

       ... some kind of, like... Refugee is way too dramatic a word for it. But suddenly-

   18. JRJoe Rogan1:06

       (coughs)

   19. DTDuncan Trussell1:06

       ... just part of this diaspora of comedians pouring out of LA.

   20. JRJoe Rogan1:11

       Yeah.

   21. DTDuncan Trussell1:11

       Like, and not just comedians, but just people lea- leaving, man.

   22. JRJoe Rogan1:15

       Well, (coughs) um, I talked to Joey today from New Jersey. Called, you know, I called him. He's in New Jersey and it's just such, so strange. I'm like, "You're in Jersey?" He's like, "That's right, motherfucker."

   23. DTDuncan Trussell1:26

       Yeah.

   24. JRJoe Rogan1:27

       You know, he's, he's all happy in Jersey.

   25. DTDuncan Trussell1:29

       You know, he was the last. Like, you leaving was intense, but I was still like, "You know, maybe we'll stick around and see what happens." And then, like, I'd been getting all these... You know, the problem with me is, like, I get weird vibes all the time. And, uh, not... Like, the last time I was on here, I legitimately thought a meteor was gonna hit the earth. I mean, I got-

   26. JRJoe Rogan1:47

       (laughs)

   27. DTDuncan Trussell1:48

       I really thought that. So, I r- I worked very hard on not listening to that part of me most of the time. But I was getting this real weird vibe from LA and I'm like, "Come on, man. You're just, like, superstitious." It's, it's probably nothing." And then, then my wife would say like, "I'm getting a really weird vibe. Like we... May- maybe, I don't know if we should stay here renting or if we should stay in the place." And I didn't wanna tell her, "Oh, I've been getting a weird vibe too," 'cause I didn't wanna amplify it, whatever that was. And then I got on the phone with Diaz and he's like, "Yeah, I'm leaving. Getting the fuck out of here." And that was it. That's-

   28. JRJoe Rogan2:22

       'Cause Diaz was telling me Burbank was sketchy, where he lives in Burbank. He says, "My neighborhood turned to shit, like instantly."

   29. DTDuncan Trussell2:29

       Dude, it's like... Yeah, it's, it's, it's not, and it's not just any one thing, you know?

   30. JRJoe Rogan2:34

       No.
2. 15:00 – 30:00

   Uh, yeah, that's- …

   1. JRJoe Rogan15:00

      built these, these cages. They did that during the Obama administration, right?

   2. DTDuncan Trussell15:05

      Uh, yeah, that's-

   3. JRJoe Rogan15:05

      See if you can f- wh- so here- here's this. So se- these, these are the guys that fled from Mexico and who knows where else and came through the Mexican border, and then Pence is standing there in front of these guys. So, like, imagine you're a dude. You live in, you know, Ecuador and you make your way up through Mexico because you have a fucking dream. Like, America is the land where people can make it.

   4. DTDuncan Trussell15:32

      Yeah.

   5. JRJoe Rogan15:32

      This is this guy who fights in the UFC, his name is Marlon Vera, and, uh, he's a bad motherfucker, and he just won this weekend. And he's, I believe he's from Ecuador, right? That's Marlon's-

   6. NANarrator15:41

      Yeah, I think so.

   7. JRJoe Rogan15:41

      Yes. And he, um, talked about it in his, his victory speech. He was talking about, you know, how m- hey man, you know, you can, you can actually do it. He came over here. He was talking about it in the countdown show too. He came over here. He lived a year without his family just building up money and fighting to try to get money to bring his family over, and then he brought his family over. And then, as time has gone on-

   8. DTDuncan Trussell16:00

      Yeah.

   9. JRJoe Rogan16:00

      ... he keeps winning. He's on like a seven-fight win streak and now he's like a top 10 contender in the UFC. And he could've been one of those dudes.

   10. DTDuncan Trussell16:07

       That's right.

   11. JRJoe Rogan16:07

       See, this, this, this is not... These are just people that are in a fucking terrible place and they're trying to get out. Putting them in cages, like, it just, it's a bad look and it's an even worse... Imagine you're that guy who comes over from Ecuador-

   12. DTDuncan Trussell16:21

       Yeah.

   13. JRJoe Rogan16:21

       ... and you're in this cage and you see Pence. He could touch them. You could touch them. If that cage wasn't there, you could reach over-

   14. DTDuncan Trussell16:27

       Yeah.

   15. JRJoe Rogan16:27

       ... and touch him on the shoulder.

   16. DTDuncan Trussell16:28

       Yeah.

   17. JRJoe Rogan16:28

       He's right there.

   18. DTDuncan Trussell16:29

       Right.

   19. JRJoe Rogan16:29

       The fucking guy who's second in line to the- the- the most powerful army-

   20. DTDuncan Trussell16:35

       Yeah.

   21. JRJoe Rogan16:35

       ... the world has ever known. The- the- Trump's the commander-in-chief, that's number two.

   22. DTDuncan Trussell16:39

       Yeah.

   23. JRJoe Rogan16:39

       And he's right there in front of a cage and he doesn't seem to care. Like, play this. It's weird. And I don't know how I want him to- to look, but he's not, like, looking at the people. He's kind of, like, looking away. He's kind of, like, ignoring the people. I mean, I don't know what you're supposed to do. Are you supposed to look at them? Would that, would it fill you with sorrow and despair? Would you not be able to, uh, rationalize and disconnect yourself from the humans that are suffering? When you think about all of us-

   24. DTDuncan Trussell17:08

       Yeah.

   25. JRJoe Rogan17:08

       ... we're basically the products of a fucking enormous chain of events, not one thing. But h- look at, they, they have foil blankets, man. I mean, this is crazy shit. They're stacked in there, stacked on top of each other wearing foil blankets.

   26. DTDuncan Trussell17:24

       Yeah, yeah. It's terrible. The, and- and- and it's, look at that, guys. Think about his kids.

   27. JRJoe Rogan17:28

       Yes.

   28. DTDuncan Trussell17:29

       And- and- and-

   29. JRJoe Rogan17:29

       He's got a family back home like that?

   30. DTDuncan Trussell17:30

       It's, it's... Well, no.
3. 30:00 – 45:00

   Yeah. …

   1. JRJoe Rogan30:00

      in jail-

   2. DTDuncan Trussell30:00

      Yeah.

   3. JRJoe Rogan30:00

      ... and other people to work forever to get 'em o- We don't want any of that.

   4. DTDuncan Trussell30:03

      Yeah.

   5. JRJoe Rogan30:03

      We don't want any prosecutors that hide evidence that shows that a person was innocent. That's real today in 2020.

   6. DTDuncan Trussell30:09

      Yeah.

   7. JRJoe Rogan30:10

      They don't even get in trouble for it.

   8. DTDuncan Trussell30:11

      Yeah, man. It's r- It's, it's true, and I think that the only ... The-... maybe this is naive. I think we gotta get over our addiction to the person on the Hill.

   9. JRJoe Rogan30:21

      We gotta get over our addiction to the idea that the way we govern is the only way to govern.

   10. DTDuncan Trussell30:25

       That's it. And that's why when I see that... What was it called again, a CHAZ?

   11. JRJoe Rogan30:29

       Mm-hmm.

   12. DTDuncan Trussell30:30

       You know, again, like-

   13. JRJoe Rogan30:31

       Be like, "Yeah!"

   14. DTDuncan Trussell30:32

       Yeah. To me, it's not... It, it... To me, what I'm seeing there is, at the very least, a radical experiment and a potential. Now-

   15. JRJoe Rogan30:38

       It's a temper tantrum by some 20-year-old kids who hate capitalism.

   16. DTDuncan Trussell30:42

       How old were the Founding Fathers? I, it's-

   17. JRJoe Rogan30:44

       That's a good question, but-

   18. DTDuncan Trussell30:45

       ... and, and, you know-

   19. JRJoe Rogan30:45

       ... they didn't have YouTube.

   20. DTDuncan Trussell30:46

       And ag-

   21. JRJoe Rogan30:46

       I think they would've formed a much better opinion.

   22. DTDuncan Trussell30:48

       Well, the, the whole... And this is the other part of it. Like, so I- I keep thinking about... And again, man, this is where my case is gonna start falling apart, but-

   23. JRJoe Rogan30:56

       (laughs)

   24. DTDuncan Trussell30:56

       (laughs) That's okay. I don't mind if my case falls apart. The... For me, it's... I keep thinking like, "Okay, so what are they telling us now? How to feel?" They're saying, "Well, either you're a socialist or a capitalist or a communist, or tell me what kind of -ist I am or what -ism I'm into." And I keep thinking like, "Man, can't there... Isn't it possible, with all the technology we have, that there's a new -ism that, that no one's... That, that doesn't have the first part of the word attached to it?"

   25. JRJoe Rogan31:21

       Right, right. Good point.

   26. DTDuncan Trussell31:22

       So it's like... And, and, and so, at the very least, if you meet someone who's like in... Passionate in a real way, not in a bullshit way, by the way, man. 'Cause like there's a big difference between like you, you know, right away when you run into somebody who's trying to tell you how to be. It's horrible. It's a-

   27. JRJoe Rogan31:38

       Ugh.

   28. DTDuncan Trussell31:38

       ... even, even if it's in a light way.

   29. JRJoe Rogan31:40

       It's such a... It's so drone-some.

   30. DTDuncan Trussell31:42

       Ooh.
4. 45:00 – 1:00:00

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   1. DTDuncan Trussell45:00

      be. I really don't know. But that be, you know, to me, that's the other problem that's happening right now is, like, superstition is ru- running rampant. I'm friends with lots of witches, I know a few Satanists, and I know a few people who are into the occult, and I don't know a single one of them that would tolerate child abuse. I don't know a single one that wouldn't kill somebody. Some of them would kill people if they thought they were hurting kids. Not, and, and make it so that nobody found the body. Some of the Satanists I know, they would kill some, they would've killed someone probably. I don't know for sure. I'm not trying to throw any Satanists under the bus, but I'm just saying, like, this idea that we can't have altern- alternate pagan religions in our country-

   2. JRJoe Rogan45:39

      Right.

   3. DTDuncan Trussell45:39

      ... without immediately being associated with human sacrifice or child abuse, I think that goes against the American spirit. It's like, look, 'cause people don't wanna subscribe to your particular, like, very popular global religion doesn't necessarily implicate them in, like, something that is truly a horror, which is h- human trafficking.

   4. JRJoe Rogan45:58

      Right.

   5. DTDuncan Trussell45:58

      So to me, this is the problem is, like, man, we gotta be a little bit more nuanced in our apprehend- or not, in our conceptualization of these people. Again, I don't know what's going on at the fucking Bohemian Grove, but from what I've heard, it's basically a summer camp for billionaires where they try to get artists in there to, like, loosen 'em up a little bit. That's what I've heard. I could be wrong.

   6. JRJoe Rogan46:17

      Who told you this? Is this-

   7. DTDuncan Trussell46:19

      I honestly can't fucking say.

   8. JRJoe Rogan46:21

      Hmm.

   9. DTDuncan Trussell46:22

      Ahem.

   10. JRJoe Rogan46:24

       Hmm. Interesting.

   11. DTDuncan Trussell46:25

       Look, man, I don't know. And I know, and I've seen-

   12. JRJoe Rogan46:27

       Have you seen the video of Bohemian Grove? Have you seen it?

   13. DTDuncan Trussell46:29

       The g- the, the, the ritual in front of the Owl God?

   14. JRJoe Rogan46:32

       Yeah. Have you seen it?

   15. DTDuncan Trussell46:33

       Yeah. Dude, go, come with me to Burning Man and you will see that every-

   16. JRJoe Rogan46:38

       Oh, I'm sure.

   17. DTDuncan Trussell46:38

       ... every 50 feet.

   18. JRJoe Rogan46:39

       Look, I don't think it's that big of a deal. I really don't.

   19. DTDuncan Trussell46:43

       If it involves hurting kids, it's a big deal. And if these motherfuckers are doing anything that involves human sacrifice, hurting human beings, in, in in a, in, in any application of that-

   20. JRJoe Rogan46:54

       Of course.

   21. DTDuncan Trussell46:54

       ... then it's the worst thing on earth and I'm so sorry that I said anything about it. But if these are-

   22. JRJoe Rogan46:59

       But I don't think, I don't think that's what this is. I mean, uh, obviously what we're seeing is not that. We don't know what else happens. But what you're seeing is them burning sticks in front of this, uh, Owl God. And it's like this crazy, um, crazy, uh, speech they're giving while it's going on. It's, it's really weird.

   23. DTDuncan Trussell47:16

       Hey, can we-

   24. JRJoe Rogan47:17

       Can we hear some of it? The speech?

   25. NANarrator47:20

       Uh, I don't know where the speech is in the video. I found another video-

   26. JRJoe Rogan47:22

       Hmm.

   27. NANarrator47:22

       ... where this, like, stabilized the footage. The f-

   28. JRJoe Rogan47:24

       Oh.

   29. NANarrator47:25

       It's like, uh, captured in another one.

   30. JRJoe Rogan47:25

       But I mean, before, before this, nobody really believed that... Listen to this.
5. 1:00:00 – 1:09:18

   (laughs)…

   1. DTDuncan Trussell1:00:00

      they've produced this hyper-seductive, semi-sentient information dispersal device that is driving people who don't have the immune system to data that you're supposed to naturally get from school crazy.

   2. JRJoe Rogan1:00:15

      (laughs)

   3. DTDuncan Trussell1:00:15

      That's what's happening. And so people are going nuts because it's like-

   4. JRJoe Rogan1:00:18

      Well, add that with the r- d- addictive quality of technology, those two things together, the addictive quality of just looking at, like, your phone and getting information off your phone and then add it to all the stuff that you're saying.

   5. DTDuncan Trussell1:00:30

      Yeah, man. And, and, and, it's-

   6. JRJoe Rogan1:00:31

      It's a crazy combination.

   7. DTDuncan Trussell1:00:33

      And there, I think, Google and YouTube and as much as, like, you know, and I do think censorship's fucked. I would hate to be in anybody's position there because on one hand, you're looking at, like, a very liberal, very beautiful idea, which is like, everyone should be allowed to say whatever they want to say. And then it's meeting like, well, but what about these hyper charismatic, seductive people who like Hitler?

   8. JRJoe Rogan1:00:58

      Mm.

   9. DTDuncan Trussell1:00:59

      You know what I mean?

   10. JRJoe Rogan1:00:59

       Right, right.

   11. DTDuncan Trussell1:00:59

       Like, so now you run into this terrible place of like, and also we know that there's people who don't quite have the ability to discern what's real from what's not. I mean, I-

   12. JRJoe Rogan1:01:08

       But we allow... This is my beef. We allow some of that because we allow evangelists.

   13. DTDuncan Trussell1:01:15

       (chewing) Mm.

   14. JRJoe Rogan1:01:15

       I heard Robert Tilden on one of his shows.

   15. DTDuncan Trussell1:01:17

       Wow. Yeah.

   16. JRJoe Rogan1:01:18

       He goes-

   17. DTDuncan Trussell1:01:18

       Wow.

   18. JRJoe Rogan1:01:18

       ... "Every time you write a check to me, Satan gets a black eye."

   19. DTDuncan Trussell1:01:23

       (laughs) That's good.

   20. JRJoe Rogan1:01:25

       Dude, it was in my act for a while. That was-

   21. DTDuncan Trussell1:01:27

       Dude.

   22. JRJoe Rogan1:01:27

       ... him, I was like, "Where's my checkbook?"

   23. DTDuncan Trussell1:01:29

       Ugh.

   24. JRJoe Rogan1:01:29

       "You, Satan, you son of a bitch."

   25. DTDuncan Trussell1:01:32

       Dude, it's-

   26. JRJoe Rogan1:01:32

       Imagine you could steal money that way.

   27. DTDuncan Trussell1:01:35

       It's... Look, man, I, I don't-

   28. JRJoe Rogan1:01:36

       Don't you know what I'm saying?

   29. DTDuncan Trussell1:01:37

       Yeah, I do know exactly what you're saying. And it's like this type of con artistry... Also cigarettes. Oh, you know, it's like this type of con artistry-

   30. JRJoe Rogan1:01:46

       Yeah.

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