Joe Rogan Experience #1531 - Miley Cyrus

1. 0:00 – 15:00

   (drumming music) Joe Rogan podcast,…

   1. MCMiley Cyrus0:00

      (drumming music) Joe Rogan podcast, check it out. The Joe Rogan Experience.

   2. JRJoe Rogan0:06

      Train by day, Joe Rogan podcast by night. All day. (heavy guitar music) Hello, Miley Cyrus.

   3. MCMiley Cyrus0:14

      All right.

   4. JRJoe Rogan0:14

      How are you?

   5. MCMiley Cyrus0:15

      I'm good. Joe, how you doing?

   6. JRJoe Rogan0:15

      Pleasure to meet you.

   7. MCMiley Cyrus0:16

      You also. I'm happy to be here.

   8. JRJoe Rogan0:18

      I'm happy to have you here.

   9. MCMiley Cyrus0:19

      Thank you very much.

   10. JRJoe Rogan0:19

       You have a fantastic voice. Not just a singing voice, but your talking voice is very unusual. It's like it makes you step back a little bit like, "Oh."

   11. MCMiley Cyrus0:27

       I've actually ... Uh, recently, I was walking around in Boston, and I went to a museum. And this, like, older man walked up to me, had no idea who I was. He was just enjoying the art also in the museum and started talking to me forever about my voice. And my ... And then there was a college, some sort of trip to the museum, and then everybody started freaking out. And it was so cool just to have someone stop me about my speaking voice 'cause that had never happened to me before. I think it's 'cause I was turned around, and I had the mullet, so I could've been, you know, anybody. I could've been anyone from Tennessee.

   12. JRJoe Rogan0:57

       It's a heavy voice.

   13. MCMiley Cyrus0:59

       It's a heavy voice. Um-

   14. JRJoe Rogan1:00

       You didn't always have a heavy voice though. Like, when ... Uh, my kids love Hannah Montana, by the way.

   15. MCMiley Cyrus1:05

       Yeah.

   16. JRJoe Rogan1:05

       So when I, I would watch, your, your voice was different.

   17. MCMiley Cyrus1:09

       It's definitely changed. I actually ... I kind of learned a lot about the voice and how our experiences affect our voice. I had a surgery in November on my voice.

   18. JRJoe Rogan1:20

       Oh.

   19. MCMiley Cyrus1:20

       I had something called Raikhi's edema, which when my doctor told me about it, he said, "No one shy ever has this. This is for abuse of the voice."

   20. JRJoe Rogan1:29

       (laughs)

   21. MCMiley Cyrus1:29

       "This is for people that talk way too fucking much." And usually, this happens when you're, like, in your 60s or 70s, a couple other singers.

   22. JRJoe Rogan1:35

       How do I not have that?

   23. MCMiley Cyrus1:37

       I don't know. (laughs) I don't know.

   24. JRJoe Rogan1:38

       (laughs)

   25. MCMiley Cyrus1:38

       Mine, I think honestly, really, I, I started touring, you know, at probably 12 or 13, and not only was I ... The adrenaline that you have after a show, it's not really the singing that affects your voice as much. It's afterwards. You're totally on, and then it's really hard to get that sleep. You stay up, talking all night. Later, the talking all night turn into smoking all night, and now this is kinda where we're at.

   26. JRJoe Rogan2:01

       (laughs)

   27. MCMiley Cyrus2:02

       We got some dirt on her. You know, she ...

   28. JRJoe Rogan2:05

       Yeah.

   29. MCMiley Cyrus2:05

       The, the voice can be like, like a face. It collects wrinkles, and, and it tells a story. If you look at yourself, and you go, "Oh, I didn't have this until these- this trip. You know, I sat out in the sun," or, "I partied too much," or whatever, and your voice does the same thing. It collects dirt.

   30. JRJoe Rogan2:17

       It's very distinctive. Yeah.
2. 15:00 – 30:00

   Right. …

   1. MCMiley Cyrus15:00

      I love about the new way that music is happening and streaming. And I love the idea that, like, I threw up that, um, uh, Flaming Lips record I did on SoundCloud, and it was like, you know, no one had to buy it or-

   2. JRJoe Rogan15:09

      Right.

   3. MCMiley Cyrus15:10

      ... I sound 105. But it's very exciting because I really hated always being behind myself. And I think that's what now I can use my art as my kinda... Uh, I guess the way that I can talk to the... The press isn't what bothers me, it's kinda the public, you know?

   4. JRJoe Rogan15:28

      Mm-hmm.

   5. MCMiley Cyrus15:28

      And, and I, and I got in this habit where when people would meet me... I guess I didn't get in the habit, it just became a thing that happened constantly, was I'd meet someone and they'd go, "Man, you're not as crazy as I thought you'd be."

   6. JRJoe Rogan15:39

      (laughs)

   7. MCMiley Cyrus15:39

      And I'm like, "Thank you." Uh, "I don't know what you thought I'd be doing right now. If you thought I'd be in, like, you know, space buns dropping acid or something." But people say that to me all the time, that I'm not as crazy as they thought I would be. And that's just a weird thing to say to someone.

   8. JRJoe Rogan15:54

      Yeah. But the public image, like, what they sold of you... You know, here you are, Hannah Montana, and then all of a sudden, you're this very sexual singer, and you're doing all this crazy stuff, and you're on television shaking your ass, and everybody's seeing that. And they're like, "Oh, Miley Cyrus is out of control now. She's wi-"

   9. MCMiley Cyrus16:10

      Yeah.

   10. JRJoe Rogan16:10

       So then that becomes the narrative, right?

   11. MCMiley Cyrus16:11

       It's funny when people make the narrative when you become in control that now you're out of it.

   12. JRJoe Rogan16:16

       Yeah.

   13. MCMiley Cyrus16:16

       That's what's always really interesting for me.

   14. JRJoe Rogan16:18

       But it's also youth, right? Like, like, think about the marriage thing, right? You t- Mm-hmm. You say Vanity Fair. They write the article. You're deeply in love. By the time it comes out, you're already divorced.

   15. MCMiley Cyrus16:26

       Right.

   16. JRJoe Rogan16:27

       That's so Hollywood.

   17. MCMiley Cyrus16:28

       Yeah.

   18. JRJoe Rogan16:28

       I mean, to them, that's like, "Oh, we've seen this fucking story before."

   19. MCMiley Cyrus16:31

       Yeah.

   20. JRJoe Rogan16:31

       "We know where this going." Oh, also, you're a child star.

   21. MCMiley Cyrus16:34

       Yeah.

   22. JRJoe Rogan16:34

       "Oh, shit. We've seen this story before." And so you get stuck in that narrative too, right?

   23. MCMiley Cyrus16:39

       Absolutely.

   24. JRJoe Rogan16:40

       Because they want you to fall down the exact same path. They don't want you to reinvent yourself.

   25. MCMiley Cyrus16:44

       It's a familiar path.

   26. JRJoe Rogan16:45

       Yes.

   27. MCMiley Cyrus16:46

       Yes.

   28. JRJoe Rogan16:46

       Well, th- then they'll spell it out-

   29. MCMiley Cyrus16:47

       Familiar story.

   30. JRJoe Rogan16:48

       ... for you.
3. 30:00 – 45:00

   (sighs) That sucks. …

   1. JRJoe Rogan30:00

      a dog that got in a chicken coop too.

   2. MCMiley Cyrus30:01

      (sighs) That sucks.

   3. JRJoe Rogan30:02

      I had, I had a lot of chickens at one point in time and then after the last fire out here-

   4. MCMiley Cyrus30:06

      Yeah.

   5. JRJoe Rogan30:06

      Uh, my chicken coop, my house stayed okay, but my chicken coop burnt to the ground.

   6. MCMiley Cyrus30:10

      Damn.

   7. JRJoe Rogan30:10

      And then we had to put them in a smaller chicken coop and the coyotes got them.

   8. MCMiley Cyrus30:13

      That's the thing. That's the thing.

   9. JRJoe Rogan30:15

      Mm-hmm.

   10. MCMiley Cyrus30:15

       You can't blame dad for nature. That's the way that it is.

   11. JRJoe Rogan30:17

       No, you can't.

   12. MCMiley Cyrus30:17

       You know?

   13. JRJoe Rogan30:18

       Dogs will eat chickens.

   14. MCMiley Cyrus30:19

       Yep. They will.

   15. JRJoe Rogan30:20

       Give them a chance.

   16. MCMiley Cyrus30:21

       So will snakes apparently.

   17. JRJoe Rogan30:22

       Pff. Fuck yeah.

   18. MCMiley Cyrus30:23

       They got it.

   19. JRJoe Rogan30:24

       I don't know.

   20. MCMiley Cyrus30:24

       Yeah.

   21. JRJoe Rogan30:24

       So you, your brain, like, when they do the scan-

   22. MCMiley Cyrus30:28

       Mm-hmm.

   23. JRJoe Rogan30:28

       ... do they g- do they tell you what you should do to make it better? Like, what do they... Do they look at it and go, "Oh, you're fucked up." (laughs) What, what are they saying?

   24. MCMiley Cyrus30:35

       No. They, they tell you what you can do to make it better. You know, he works kind of with, uh, you know, I guess a, a lot of, um...... you know, kind of mostly athletes, people that kinda live abnormal lifestyle. And, and so-

   25. JRJoe Rogan30:45

       Injuries.

   26. MCMiley Cyrus30:45

       ... injuries.

   27. JRJoe Rogan30:45

       Head injuries. Yeah.

   28. MCMiley Cyrus30:46

       Yeah. He just posted a cool picture with Tyson, and he just works with all d- He l- I love seeing the other brains that I'm allowed to see also 'cause it kind of is fun to... I would love, like, a match.com, but, like, where people just put their brain scans. I'd be like, "I like that one."

   29. JRJoe Rogan30:58

       Oh, this would work.

   30. MCMiley Cyrus30:59

       That's lighting up the, right where I need it.
4. 45:00 – 59:56

   There's plenty of places…

   1. MCMiley Cyrus45:00

      on the East Coast doing a show.

   2. JRJoe Rogan45:02

      There's plenty of places to see bears. You don't have to wait 30 years.

   3. MCMiley Cyrus45:05

      My dad probably-

   4. JRJoe Rogan45:06

      Just gotta go to the right spot.

   5. MCMiley Cyrus45:06

      ... is lazy as hell and probably said, "I looked everywhere."

   6. JRJoe Rogan45:08

      (laughs)

   7. MCMiley Cyrus45:08

      Probably opened his front fucking door, a bear wasn't standing there, and went back inside.

   8. JRJoe Rogan45:12

      Well, that's what people think when they, when they're worried.

   9. MCMiley Cyrus45:14

      And turned on nothing else.

   10. JRJoe Rogan45:14

       "There's no bears left. Go outside, look. Well, just go to the right place."

   11. MCMiley Cyrus45:17

       I've seen bears. I went-

   12. JRJoe Rogan45:18

       There's plenty of bears.

   13. MCMiley Cyrus45:18

       I w- I spent, uh, a little bit of time in Vancouver, BC with my brother.

   14. JRJoe Rogan45:22

       Mm-hmm.

   15. MCMiley Cyrus45:22

       This is actually one of the crazier things I've ever done. People think I'm so crazy, but this is the craziest thing. But it's not even that nuts. I, uh, I was following, like, NatGeo on Instagram, and I love the pictures of the spirit bears. I love those, like, beautiful bears up in BC. And, uh, I kinda started reading about the wolf cull up there, and I got really kind of invested in these animals. And I sent a DM and said, "Is there any way that some point I could go with maybe some of your researchers, and I could see some of these bears or wolves for myself? Because I think I'd be even more inspired to kind of like fight for them if I could actually see them and know that they're really real 'cause I've only ever seen them from a picture." And they responded and said, "Sure. You can come up and hang with the spirit bears." This is kinda like... I don't know if it's catfishing or I don't know what was really going on, but someone's telling me, "Sure." So me and my brother load up, we, uh, b- I didn't really wanna get my parents involved, so we got a coach flight and had to go through San Francisco. Then we got this shitty little hotel room 'cause we were just trying to f- how d- I didn't know how to do it. I've, everyone's always done my travel for me, managers and all these things, so I was just booking it. So we end up taking, like, two little planes, three boats, and we end up getting to, um, with this dude, Ian, who shoots in, uh, for NatGeo and shoots up in BC, and it was just amazing. And, and when I got to see all the spirit bears, um, I got to go into, like, where they do all their research on their boat. So they'll leave these, like, uh, kinda like trap combs where they- it just brushes the bear's hair when it, when it walks by-

   16. JRJoe Rogan46:40

       Okay, yeah.

   17. MCMiley Cyrus46:40

       ... so they can understand kind of more about it and-

   18. JRJoe Rogan46:42

       DNA tests.

   19. MCMiley Cyrus46:43

       Yeah. Started looking about-

   20. JRJoe Rogan46:44

       Yeah.

   21. MCMiley Cyrus46:44

       ... like, all this information. Again, this is one of the kinda weirder things that I've done that I, I, I didn't really know who was gonna be waiting on that boat. I mean, I know we tell girls not to go out into the middle of a boat and-

   22. JRJoe Rogan46:54

       How old were you when you were doing this?

   23. MCMiley Cyrus46:56

       This was, uh, two weeks after the VMAs in 2015.

   24. JRJoe Rogan47:00

       So you're already super famous, and you're-

   25. MCMiley Cyrus47:01

       I was super famous.

   26. JRJoe Rogan47:02

       ... going out there to find bears.

   27. MCMiley Cyrus47:04

       With my brother.

   28. JRJoe Rogan47:05

       There you are.

   29. MCMiley Cyrus47:05

       There I am. Yeah, there I am.

   30. JRJoe Rogan47:07

       (laughs)

Episode duration: 2:06:31