Joe Rogan Experience #1533 - Adam Curry

1. 0:00 – 1:16

   Texas welcome + why Adam Curry matters to podcasting

   1. ACAdam Curry0:00

      (drumming intro) Joe Rogan podcast, check it out.

   2. NANarrator0:04

      The Joe Rogan Experience.

   3. JRJoe Rogan0:06

      Train by day, Joe Rogan podcast by night, all day. (rock music plays) If not for you, I would not be here-

   4. ACAdam Curry0:15

      (laughs) Wait a minute.

   5. JRJoe Rogan0:16

      ... in both places.

   6. ACAdam Curry0:17

      Welcome to Texas, Joe.

   7. JRJoe Rogan0:18

      Thank you, sir. Thank you.

   8. ACAdam Curry0:19

      Welcome. You bring tremendous, exciting, and good energy to our city and to our state.

   9. JRJoe Rogan0:26

      I, uh, I appreciate that very much, but I am here, and a big reason... in a big way because of you. So-

   10. ACAdam Curry0:31

       (laughs)

   11. JRJoe Rogan0:31

       ... before we even get started, if you do not know, Adam was the very first podcaster, ever. He's the real... if you, if you wanna have a patient zero of podcasting, it's you.

   12. ACAdam Curry0:42

       Uh, yeah. I'd say that's arguably correct. Yeah.

   13. JRJoe Rogan0:44

       I w- I would say it's inarguably correct.

   14. ACAdam Curry0:46

       (laughs) Yeah.

   15. JRJoe Rogan0:47

       Um, and then also you talked about how much you loved h- it here.

   16. ACAdam Curry0:51

       Yeah, and I've been here-

   17. JRJoe Rogan0:52

       So those two things, and- and this is-

   18. ACAdam Curry0:52

       ... e- 11 years or so. Mm-hmm.

   19. JRJoe Rogan0:54

       Without you, we would not be here for those two things.

   20. ACAdam Curry0:56

       Right. Well, it's really because after I did your show, which I cannot... The only thing better than going on the Joe Rogan Show is being invited back on the Joe Rogan Show.

   21. JRJoe Rogan1:05

       (laughs)

   22. ACAdam Curry1:05

       It's, I mean, it... You did, it was incredible for me. Um, you renewed my credentials.

   23. JRJoe Rogan1:11

       No, well, listen, I think you're awesome.

   24. ACAdam Curry1:13

       It's, it-

   25. JRJoe Rogan1:13

       I think you're one of the, more, most interesting guys on the internet. No bullshit. I really do.

2. 1:16 – 6:05

   Tourette’s, tics, and the vaccine conversation turning ‘black-and-white’

   1. ACAdam Curry1:16

      Th- thank you. The, the, the other thing that's very interesting is I told you when we were doing the show that time, we were kinda getting a little baked. I'm like, "This is where my Tourette's shows up." You know, I have a mild form of Tourette's, and so because I had said that, it was like, uh, I felt really comfortable just being who I am and not having to worry about, "I don't wanna tic right now." You know?

   2. JRJoe Rogan1:34

      Oh, right, right.

   3. ACAdam Curry1:35

      You know Steve Mnuchin, our, um, secretary-

   4. JRJoe Rogan1:37

      Mm-hmm.

   5. ACAdam Curry1:37

      ... of the Treasury? He also has Tourette's, and he-

   6. JRJoe Rogan1:39

      He also has a hot wife. Ba-bam.

   7. ACAdam Curry1:41

      Well, this is, of course, one of the super powers you get when you have Tourette's. You get a hot wife. (laughs)

   8. JRJoe Rogan1:46

      She's one of those hot wives that wears those-

   9. ACAdam Curry1:46

      Oh, yeah, baby.

   10. JRJoe Rogan1:47

       She's one of those-

   11. ACAdam Curry1:48

       That's what you get.

   12. JRJoe Rogan1:48

       ... ladies that wears those gloves that go all the way down to the elbow.

   13. ACAdam Curry1:51

       Mm.

   14. JRJoe Rogan1:51

       You know what I'm saying?

   15. ACAdam Curry1:52

       Yeah. The lady-

   16. JRJoe Rogan1:52

       Real, real classy.

   17. ACAdam Curry1:52

       ... the lady is like, "Oh, he's, he's kinda weird, but I like that." So, but you could see him, he's, you know, he's testifying before, uh, Congress, and you can see him, like, stretching-

   18. JRJoe Rogan2:02

       Oh.

   19. ACAdam Curry2:02

       ... his, his neck and shit. It's, you know, so it's-

   20. JRJoe Rogan2:03

       Interesting.

   21. ACAdam Curry2:04

       But once it's out there, then, then it actually removes all the tension. And even on the YouTube comments, you know, people are like, "What the fuck is wrong with this guy, man?" It's like, you know, is he, is he backing up his files every five seconds when he's-

   22. JRJoe Rogan2:15

       (laughs)

   23. ACAdam Curry2:16

       ... when he's, when he's squint- when he's, uh, batting his eyes?

   24. JRJoe Rogan2:19

       What exactly is happening if someone... Like, is there-

   25. ACAdam Curry2:21

       Well-

   26. JRJoe Rogan2:21

       ... a physiological thing that they've identified?

   27. ACAdam Curry2:23

       Yeah, it's, it's like sparks happening in your brain, and they're not really sure what it is. Uh, it's Gilles de Tourette syndrome, and there's all kinds of stuff they say can help, and, you know?

   28. JRJoe Rogan2:34

       What, what are the things they say help?

   29. ACAdam Curry2:36

       Uh, certain herbs. Um, you know-

   30. JRJoe Rogan2:38

       I always get fucking fishy.
3. 6:05 – 9:32

   First show in the new Austin studio: setup chaos, gratitude, and the Spotify shift

   1. ACAdam Curry6:05

      I think what's interesting is, uh-

   2. JRJoe Rogan6:06

      Young Jamie had to make first adjustments.

   3. ACAdam Curry6:08

      (laughs)

   4. JRJoe Rogan6:08

      We got a whole new set up here.

   5. ACAdam Curry6:09

      Yeah. Oh, yeah, ma- Oh, stop. Stop. Holy crap.

   6. JRJoe Rogan6:10

      How about a nice round of applause to Matt Alvarez, the fucking king of the world-

   7. ACAdam Curry6:15

      (clapping)

   8. JRJoe Rogan6:15

      ... who put this place together?

   9. ACAdam Curry6:17

      I, I... Let me just say, this is so badass.

   10. JRJoe Rogan6:20

       Thanks, buddy.

   11. ACAdam Curry6:20

       I mean, when I... You sent me a picture and I was like, "That looks like the interior of an Embraer jet."

   12. JRJoe Rogan6:24

       (laughs)

   13. ACAdam Curry6:24

       I mean, this is f-... This is crazy. And then the lighting and then... And I'm glad my buddy Drew got y'all hooked up with a table.

   14. JRJoe Rogan6:30

       Yeah. Shout out to Drew T who put this-

   15. ACAdam Curry6:32

       That's fan-... That's fantastic.

   16. JRJoe Rogan6:32

       ... who put this together.

   17. ACAdam Curry6:33

       And, you know, just all of it is-

   18. JRJoe Rogan6:36

       But shout out to Young Jamie.

   19. ACAdam Curry6:37

       ... so cool. Yeah.

   20. JRJoe Rogan6:37

       Fucking VIP.

   21. ACAdam Curry6:39

       Yeah, yeah.

   22. JRJoe Rogan6:39

       If, if not for him... (laughs)

   23. ACAdam Curry6:40

       We said, "Whatever you do, we don't want headphones." And he, and he came through for us.

   24. JRJoe Rogan6:45

       (laughs)

   25. ACAdam Curry6:45

       I really appreciate that shit, man. That's boss, Jamie.

   26. JRJoe Rogan6:46

       Yeah, we had a couple of sound issues, but that's just how it goes.

   27. ACAdam Curry6:49

       No. It doesn't matter. I'm the perfect guest for that, you know? I just sat here-

   28. JRJoe Rogan6:51

       Well, you're the perfect guest for the first podcast.

   29. ACAdam Curry6:53

       ... and smoked your weed. (laughs) I just sat here and smoked your weed.

   30. JRJoe Rogan6:56

       (laughs) You have to be the first guest-
4. 9:32 – 12:54

   Everyone should podcast… but can podcasting stay open and independent?

   1. JRJoe Rogan9:32

      Why does that... I, I... People u-... There was a period of time during the podcast when I was telling people to do a podcast-

   2. ACAdam Curry9:37

      Mm-hmm.

   3. JRJoe Rogan9:37

      ... and they would get mad at me. They're like, "Stop telling everyone to do a podcast."

   4. ACAdam Curry9:40

      Oh, 'cause it was, it was, like, dirty?

   5. JRJoe Rogan9:41

      Well, it's like I was, um-

   6. ACAdam Curry9:43

      I felt like the lowest rung on the showbiz ladder was VJ, but no, I went and created one lower which was podcaster. That's, that's what it was.

   7. JRJoe Rogan9:51

      No, that's not what, what I'm saying. I was-

   8. ACAdam Curry9:53

      Oh, okay.

   9. JRJoe Rogan9:53

      I was encouraging too many people to enter into it.

   10. ACAdam Curry9:56

       Oh. Oh, no. Oh.

   11. JRJoe Rogan9:58

       Yeah. People got... People were like-

   12. ACAdam Curry9:59

       This is-

   13. JRJoe Rogan9:59

       ... "Dude, stop telling everybody they should have a podcast. Not everybody should have a fucking podcast."

   14. ACAdam Curry10:02

       No. Well, this, this is very important for me, um, because I realized as the podfather who, you know, really helped create everything in this whole... the mechanisms of it all, how it all fits together, um, is very... We're, we're losing something out of podcasting. But what that does is actually creates this huge opportunity in a vacuum because there's oth-... Um, if you don't mind me saying, there's other Joe Rogans waiting to be born. They're out there. There's-

   15. JRJoe Rogan10:33

       Oh, they're alive right now.

   16. ACAdam Curry10:35

       There's... So, they are ready and they need to have the same type of support, um, that you get inside Spotify and, you know, you'll see iHeartRadio and Stitcher, they're gonna announce deals and it's all gonna be kind of...

   17. NANarrator10:48

       Mm-hmm.

   18. ACAdam Curry10:48

       They have all their exclusive and you have podcast one and there's a... And so, that's where radio is moving, uh, mainly by the music companies who, uh, have a kind of bad business model. They have to pay for every time someone listens to a song regardless of whether they could make money on it or not.

   19. JRJoe Rogan11:04

       Mm-hmm.

   20. ACAdam Curry11:05

       So, moving to longer form content that doesn't cost more per minute that people consume is a... is dynamite for them and they already have people paying and, you know, there's ways to do that, which is great. What I need to make sure we do is that we preserve podcasting as a platform for free speech. It may not be easy for the next Joe Rogan who has a different values or how they speak to get into whatever is the norm inside different podcast apps. Do you understand what I'm saying?

   21. JRJoe Rogan11:32

       I do. I do understand what you're saying. Um, my thought about it every time I told someone to do it-

   22. ACAdam Curry11:38

       Mm-hmm.

   23. JRJoe Rogan11:39

       ... was that there's plenty of room.

   24. ACAdam Curry11:41

       Yeah. Yes.

   25. JRJoe Rogan11:42

       There's so many of us.

   26. ACAdam Curry11:43

       Infinite, infinite room.

   27. JRJoe Rogan11:44

       Yeah.

   28. ACAdam Curry11:44

       Infinite.

   29. JRJoe Rogan11:45

       And this thought process that people have about, uh, not wanting someone... Look, if I have an interesting conversation with someone and they're a fascinating person, I will... I'll probably say, "You should do a podcast." If they're not doing one-

   30. ACAdam Curry11:58

       Absolutely.
5. 12:54 – 18:22

   Austin life, ‘male energy,’ and training habits (spin class vs. jiu-jitsu)

   1. JRJoe Rogan12:54

      Um, but I'm, I'm enjoying Austin.

   2. ACAdam Curry12:56

      So-

   3. JRJoe Rogan12:56

      I love it. It's great. It's dope city.

   4. ACAdam Curry13:00

      Do you, do you know how many people-

   5. JRJoe Rogan13:00

      I'm happy there's less people around.

   6. ACAdam Curry13:02

      I was gonna say, do you know a lot of people here?

   7. JRJoe Rogan13:03

      Yeah, yeah, I do. Yeah, because, uh, I'm one of the owners of On It. We're right down the street here, so really good friends with Aubrey and, uh, Kyle Kingsbury's here and then my friend, Todd White, who's a jujitsu friend of mine-

   8. ACAdam Curry13:14

      Mm-hmm.

   9. JRJoe Rogan13:14

      ... from back in LA.

   10. ACAdam Curry13:16

       I, I don't know any of these people.

   11. JRJoe Rogan13:16

       He now, he has a, uh, he's an artist.

   12. ACAdam Curry13:17

       That's so cool.

   13. JRJoe Rogan13:18

       Todd White's a fantastic artist.

   14. ACAdam Curry13:19

       Uh-huh.

   15. JRJoe Rogan13:19

       Really interesting, does like, I would call it like, um, uh, what are those, uh, what are those speakeasies? Like speakeasy-

   16. ACAdam Curry13:29

       Yeah, speakeasy.

   17. JRJoe Rogan13:29

       ... 1920s-ish cool, like, interesting. This is the art of White. This is my friend, Todd White. He does ... Like, click on that one that, that looks like, um, yeah, right there. The one, yeah, it looks like people at a party. He does that kinda shit. Todd's been my friend-

   18. ACAdam Curry13:45

       Oh, cool. Yeah.

   19. JRJoe Rogan13:46

       He's a brilliant, brilliant artist.

   20. ACAdam Curry13:47

       Like, kind of cocktail loungey type?

   21. JRJoe Rogan13:49

       Yeah, and he's also a black belt in Brazilian jujitsu from my instructor, Jean Jacques Machado.

   22. ACAdam Curry13:54

       That's him?

   23. JRJoe Rogan13:55

       That's my buddy, Todd.

   24. ACAdam Curry13:56

       Nice.

   25. JRJoe Rogan13:57

       And he's, uh, he's an Austinite now too, and he moved here from LA. So he was also an influence, talking to him, 'cause, uh, he's just a really super cool dude.

   26. ACAdam Curry14:06

       What I like about y- you here, man, is that, you know, Austin's pretty liberal, um, and it's good to ha ... You know, we need male energy. We need male energy coming back. This is-

   27. JRJoe Rogan14:16

       We need to meet in the middle and hug.

   28. ACAdam Curry14:18

       Yeah, of course.

   29. JRJoe Rogan14:19

       All this fighting.

   30. ACAdam Curry14:20

       Of course. The male/female model, by the way, I think is, there's a reason it should work, you know. There's-
6. 18:22 – 21:43

   COVID as a “sideshow”: cash disappearing and the road to a digital dollar

   1. ACAdam Curry18:22

      Yeah. Um, I think the, it's concerning all this vaccine, you know, the mandatory masks, the disputes over it.

   2. JRJoe Rogan18:30

      Mm-hmm.

   3. ACAdam Curry18:30

      But I think it's really a sideshow.

   4. JRJoe Rogan18:32

      It is?

   5. ACAdam Curry18:32

      To something much fucking bigger.

   6. JRJoe Rogan18:34

      What's the biggest thing?

   7. ACAdam Curry18:36

      Well-

   8. JRJoe Rogan18:37

      Feel like I need a seat buckle.

   9. ACAdam Curry18:39

      Yeah. Oh, definitely. Definitely. What is the, what is the one thing that we absolutely lost during the coronavirus? The one thing that went away, it was right in front of our face, we all saw it. We're going, "What the fuck?" We were actually told it had to go away or was very dangerous. What is that one thing?

   10. JRJoe Rogan18:56

       Probably your freedom.

   11. ACAdam Curry18:57

       (laughs)

   12. JRJoe Rogan18:58

       Mm-hmm. That's what I would say.

   13. ACAdam Curry18:59

       Just getting started.

   14. JRJoe Rogan18:59

       Your, your ability to move around and go wherever you want.

   15. ACAdam Curry19:01

       Just... No.

   16. JRJoe Rogan19:02

       What else is there?

   17. ACAdam Curry19:02

       An actual control mechanism of freedom. Money went away, cash went away, coins went away. Everyone went digital money and, um, we accepted it willingly. Like, oh, world-

   18. JRJoe Rogan19:13

       Without any thought that someone might be juking the system.

   19. ACAdam Curry19:19

       Well, there's... Well, let, let me continue.

   20. JRJoe Rogan19:21

       Yeah.

   21. ACAdam Curry19:21

       World Health Organization showed Chinese money being sprayed to clean it from coronavirus, which of course we know is preposterous. But, you know, uh-

   22. JRJoe Rogan19:30

       Chinese money being sprayed?

   23. ACAdam Curry19:32

       Yeah, like in Shanghai they were spraying money in the ba-... There was, there were memes as well. There was lots of, like, money can be dirty. There was a-

   24. JRJoe Rogan19:39

       Oh, okay.

   25. ACAdam Curry19:39

       Everyone went-

   26. JRJoe Rogan19:40

       I, I see what you're saying.

   27. ACAdam Curry19:40

       ... "I'm not even gonna fucking argue with you about the fucking money. I'm not gonna touch it." That's what everybody said.

   28. JRJoe Rogan19:45

       Argue? You can't argue with me about something I have no knowledge whatsoever of.

   29. ACAdam Curry19:50

       (laughs) I'm too baked for that.

   30. JRJoe Rogan19:52

       There's no way we could argue.
7. 21:43 – 28:52

   Fed history, Jekyll Island, negative rates, UBI—and Adam’s Bitcoin pitch

   1. ACAdam Curry21:43

      All right. So... Let's go back.

   2. JRJoe Rogan21:46

      (exhales) I'm nervous.

   3. ACAdam Curry21:47

      You know... You remember Jekyll Island? You were talking-

   4. JRJoe Rogan21:49

      Yes.

   5. ACAdam Curry21:49

      ... and joking about Jekyll Island.

   6. JRJoe Rogan21:50

      Yes.

   7. ACAdam Curry21:50

      So that's-

   8. JRJoe Rogan21:50

      With zero facts, by the way.

   9. ACAdam Curry21:52

      Now, look, you were-

   10. JRJoe Rogan21:52

       How about that?

   11. ACAdam Curry21:53

       ... you guys were pretty close.

   12. JRJoe Rogan21:53

       If I had to pass a quiz on Jekyll Island, I'd get a 23.

   13. ACAdam Curry21:55

       You were pretty close. So, Jekyll Island is where the Federal Reserve was created-

   14. JRJoe Rogan22:00

       Right.

   15. ACAdam Curry22:00

       ... in 1910. In 1907, there was a crisis in America. There was a financial crisis.

   16. JRJoe Rogan22:05

       Right.

   17. ACAdam Curry22:05

       And then the bankers, uh, JP Morgan and... The actual guys, you know, the old... You know, we have Chase Bank now and that guy who started that bank and Warburg and a couple of others. They said, "This is fucked up. We got to be able to control the interest rates so we can, you know, control the economy by boom and bust basically." Which we've been through all this time. But when they created it, they had to make that the official way to manage America's money. And a couple years down the line, they got the Federal Reserve Act, which removed our money from the Treasury and gave it to the Federal Reserve. And that's these bankers. And they just gave it the cool name to make it sound like it's a part of the government, but it's not. So, they create the money, they manage it, and the United States borrows it from them. You've heard this before, I'm sure.

   18. JRJoe Rogan22:51

       S- makes sense.

   19. ACAdam Curry22:52

       Okay.

   20. JRJoe Rogan22:52

       You should definitely give them most of the money that we have.

   21. ACAdam Curry22:54

       (laughs) Exactly.

   22. JRJoe Rogan22:55

       There's no, there's no need for-

   23. ACAdam Curry22:56

       It's gonna, it's about to get a lot easier for them.

   24. JRJoe Rogan22:58

       No need.

   25. ACAdam Curry22:58

       That's the beauty.

   26. JRJoe Rogan23:00

       No need for-

   27. ACAdam Curry23:00

       That's the beauty of it.

   28. JRJoe Rogan23:01

       ... po- poor people and hardworking folks-

   29. ACAdam Curry23:03

       Okay.

   30. JRJoe Rogan23:03

       ... to have any of that.
8. 28:52 – 38:10

   Pandemic narratives, China/globalism, bots, and the censorship problem

   1. JRJoe Rogan28:52

      And if I, if I was a conspiracy theorist, and I've been in the past, I would say, "If somebody really wanted to destroy America and then control it like a dictatorship, how would they go about doing it?" I got an idea. It sounds crazy, but I'm gonna release a virus.

   2. ACAdam Curry29:08

      Okay. If I, I'm a con- conspiracy therapist-

   3. JRJoe Rogan29:11

      (laughs)

   4. ACAdam Curry29:12

      ... so I just analyze the situation. Yes, I think, um, China has a big role in what's happening, uh, as global, globalism does in general. It used to be only centered around, uh, climate change and Green New Deal. And there, uh, and there's a lot of agendas running right now.

   5. JRJoe Rogan29:30

      Certainly.

   6. ACAdam Curry29:30

      So the digital dollar, which I'll explain to you another time-

   7. JRJoe Rogan29:32

      Can I pause before this gets misconstrued, though?

   8. ACAdam Curry29:34

      Yeah, sure.

   9. JRJoe Rogan29:35

      I don't believe what I just said. Here's another possibility that I also don't believe.

   10. ACAdam Curry29:39

       Okay.

   11. JRJoe Rogan29:39

       Like, I don't believe either one of them.

   12. ACAdam Curry29:41

       Okay.

   13. JRJoe Rogan29:41

       Another one is, maybe there was some sort of a virus that they were examining and doing tests on in a laboratory-

   14. ACAdam Curry29:49

       Yeah.

   15. JRJoe Rogan29:49

       ... and somehow it escaped.

   16. ACAdam Curry29:50

       Yeah, yeah. Yeah, sure.

   17. JRJoe Rogan29:50

       According to Bret Weinstein-

   18. ACAdam Curry29:52

       Sure.

   19. JRJoe Rogan29:52

       ... who is an actual evolutionary biologist.

   20. ACAdam Curry29:54

       Yeah. Biologist, yeah.

   21. JRJoe Rogan29:54

       He, he believes that's probably the case.

   22. ACAdam Curry29:56

       That's very possible.

   23. JRJoe Rogan29:57

       But he doesn't commit either way. So, I don't, I don't believe-

   24. ACAdam Curry30:00

       But, but that's not my field of expertise.

   25. JRJoe Rogan30:01

       I don't believe... I don't, I...

   26. ACAdam Curry30:02

       That's, that's not my field of expertise.

   27. JRJoe Rogan30:03

       I know, but I just don't want me to be misconstrued.

   28. ACAdam Curry30:05

       Oh, of course not.

   29. JRJoe Rogan30:06

       That's all I'm saying.

   30. ACAdam Curry30:06

       That's why I, I-
9. 38:10 – 54:07

   Podcastindex.org and decentralizing discovery to avoid single-company chokepoints

   1. ACAdam Curry38:10

      And this is why I have to create podcastindex.org to be independent-

   2. JRJoe Rogan38:15

      Ah.

   3. ACAdam Curry38:15

      ... from Apple mainly.

   4. JRJoe Rogan38:17

      I think that's a good idea but however, as a company, Apple has taken the most uniquely neutral approach when it comes to podcasts which-

   5. ACAdam Curry38:27

      Apple has been an excellent steward of podcasting.

   6. JRJoe Rogan38:29

      Yeah.

   7. ACAdam Curry38:30

      An excellent steward.

   8. JRJoe Rogan38:31

      Maybe the best because they're not profiting off of it.

   9. ACAdam Curry38:32

      Here, here's the problem and this did kind of remind... I fucked up when I met Steve Jobs 15 years ago and he wanted me to bless podcasting and iTunes. We talked about that last time.

   10. JRJoe Rogan38:42

       Yeah.

   11. ACAdam Curry38:43

       Um, I also gave him my copy of the index that we had built at the time which kind of made Apple the de facto on-ramp to submitting your podcast because all other apps and everything has been connected and getting their information and their searches from Apple's database.

   12. JRJoe Rogan39:01

       Mm.

   13. ACAdam Curry39:02

       So when Alex Jones was taken off of Apple Podcasts, plop, plop, plop like dominoes, all these other apps no longer had the ability to carry that feed because creating your own index is a big fucking pain in the ass and the average independent software developer would rather work on the experience and make categories and feature who he wants to.

   14. JRJoe Rogan39:25

       Mm.

   15. ACAdam Curry39:25

       'Cause Apple would feature NPR, PBS. So there's all these experiences that can be built and these app developers can compete with, if you don't mind, Spotify, uh-

   16. JRJoe Rogan39:35

       If you don't mind. (laughs)

   17. ACAdam Curry39:35

       ... iHeart. (laughs) I'm just, no, I'm just telling you honest. We need to have a, an outside place where... And I, you know, I'm setting, putting up my own money and people donate or not. And I think we can also-

   18. JRJoe Rogan39:45

       And I love that structure.

   19. ACAdam Curry39:46

       Yeah, I think we can retool it to-

   20. JRJoe Rogan39:48

       I love, I love how you have that set up.

   21. ACAdam Curry39:48

       We can retool it to a platform of value. I mean, I have ideas and, uh, so, you know, this will be, this will be ready like soon.

   22. JRJoe Rogan39:55

       There's, there's always certainly a concern when any company has a relative monopoly whether it's YouTube or iTunes or-

   23. ACAdam Curry40:02

       Yeah, and they're not bad. They're not bad.

   24. JRJoe Rogan40:03

       It's not bad.

   25. ACAdam Curry40:04

       They've been great guys but we just need to have-

   26. JRJoe Rogan40:05

       But what we were talking about with YouTube, it's managing its scale is almost impossible and I think peoples tend to lean towards-

   27. ACAdam Curry40:12

       That's different though.

   28. JRJoe Rogan40:12

       They tend to lean towards control and minimizing damage, right?

   29. ACAdam Curry40:16

       Mm.

   30. JRJoe Rogan40:16

       So if you're dealing with 31 million different YouTube channels and then you have how many different videos each one of them puts out, if you're, if you're thrust into this situation, like what, what do you think the amount of videos every day that go through You- YouTube's net is? Let's guess that.
10. 54:07 – 1:32:41

    Division, race framing, ADOS, and family structure as a core issue

    1. ACAdam Curry54:07

       So I need to talk to you. I need to talk to you about the division part.

    2. JRJoe Rogan54:09

       Yeah.

    3. ACAdam Curry54:09

       'Cause we, we can do something about this.

    4. JRJoe Rogan54:11

       I think we can. And that this-

    5. ACAdam Curry54:12

       The division part.

    6. JRJoe Rogan54:13

       ... I, I'm, uh, reluctantly coming to the acceptance that, uh, this stupid fucking show that I created a long time ago with Brian Redban, young Jamie Vernon, has some sort of social responsibility.

    7. ACAdam Curry54:25

       Mm-hmm.

    8. JRJoe Rogan54:25

       And because, um ... I mean, it's, it's the amount of people that listen. Uh, I don't want ... I'm, I'm a moron. You're not supposed to be taking advice from me. If I connect you to people that are interesting, congratulations. But trust me, I, like you, am trying to figure my own things out.

    9. ACAdam Curry54:43

       Mm-hmm.

    10. JRJoe Rogan54:43

        And if, if I'm 13 steps ahead in terms of like, uh, we're running a marathon, I'm 13 steps ahead of you-

    11. ACAdam Curry54:50

        Mm-hmm.

    12. JRJoe Rogan54:50

        ... or 13 steps behind, we're all doing the same thing. We're all just trying to get better. Wherever we are at any point in time, we're trying to get better. And the best thing that anybody could ever encourage you to do is think for yourself. Use real critical thinking. Don't connect yourself 'cause I ... Look, people drive by me with American flags. I'm a sucker.Okay? I'm a sucker for America. I love America. My grandparents came here from Italy.

    13. ACAdam Curry55:18

        Mm-hmm.

    14. JRJoe Rogan55:18

        They had a great goddamn time. They, they created my mom.

    15. ACAdam Curry55:21

        Mm-hmm.

    16. JRJoe Rogan55:21

        They created me and my, my sister. We are American. So I see that flag, I'm like, "Fuck yeah."

    17. ACAdam Curry55:27

        America, baby.

    18. JRJoe Rogan55:28

        Fucking America.

    19. ACAdam Curry55:30

        Mm-hmm.

    20. JRJoe Rogan55:31

        But I think there's a problem with any kind of teams. There's a problem with any- any time we- we look at each other like we're, "I'm a this and you're a that, so fuck you." And I think we need... This is what we need to abandon. We need to, uh, abandon our attachments to ideologies, even ideologies that we haven't recognized as ideologies. Like, you know, like whatever the fuck it is. The, the problem is not brown pride. Like Cain Velasquez, you know who he is?

    21. ACAdam Curry56:00

        No.

    22. JRJoe Rogan56:01

        He's like one of the greatest UFC heavyweights of all time. The only thing that ka- kept him from being the GOAT, the greatest of all time ever-

    23. ACAdam Curry56:08

        (laughs)

    24. JRJoe Rogan56:08

        ... is the fact that he kept getting injured.

    25. ACAdam Curry56:11

        (laughs) Right.

    26. JRJoe Rogan56:11

        He had a bunch of injuries like shoulder surgeries, knee surgeries, back surgery. Like he's had a... He had like a cage put around his spine. But when he was... The, the part of the problem was his will to fuck people up was stronger than his body. And so he would push his body past its limits and he just kept getting injured.

    27. ACAdam Curry56:29

        Mm-hmm.

    28. JRJoe Rogan56:30

        But that's also what made him so special 'cause when he was on top, he would just smash people.

    29. ACAdam Curry56:36

        Mm.

    30. JRJoe Rogan56:36

        Just run through 'em. He's the most American motherfucker of all time because his dad walked here from Mexico.

Episode duration: 3:18:22