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Joe Rogan Experience #1534 - Ron White

Ron White is a stand up comedian and actor, best known as a charter member of the Blue Collar Comedy Tour. His special “If You Quit Listening, I’ll Shut Up” is now streaming on Netflix.

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Sep 9, 20202h 53mWatch on YouTube ↗

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  1. 0:00 – 0:21

    Opening banter: lockdown glow-up and “Dial It Back A Little Bit” drinking plan

    1. NA

      (drumbeats) Joe Rogan podcast, check it out. The Joe Rogan Experience. Train by day, Joe Rogan podcast by night. All day. (instrumental music plays)

    2. JR

      Hey.

    3. GU

      Joe, you look good.

    4. RW

      Oh, thank you, man.

    5. JR

      You did. You- you- you look like, uh, you've- you're well rested. Like the COVID lockdown has done you well.

  2. 0:21 – 2:27

    Tequila mileage, cigarillos, and Austin’s CBD/weed loopholes

    1. RW

      Thank you. You know, I- I ... D- during this thing I- I came up with a program, uh, called the "Dial It Back A Little Bit" program and it's like AA except there's only six steps but you don't get completely sober. So it's gonna be very popular, I think. And, uh, the first step was, "Ron, why don't you quit drinking so fucking much?"

    2. JR

      And what is so fucking much? Like what- what's the numbers?

    3. RW

      Ah, you know, it's a half a mile of tequila a night or something like that. Maybe a little more.

    4. JR

      Jesus.

    5. RW

      Uh, wound back to a third. (laughs)

    6. JR

      By the way, these little cigars are the shit. These are really good. Romeo & Julieta tiny cigars.

    7. RW

      Yeah, that- that's the, uh, the mini cigarillo.

    8. JR

      Mm-hmm.

    9. RW

      So there's one that's a little bit bigger than that, uh, that's called a cigarillo and these are the minis and I started, like I was saying, at ... When I was playing golf, you know, that- that just- whenever it's time for me to hit I just throw it away and light another one, you know.

    10. JR

      Right.

    11. RW

      So there's 20 of 'em for $15 bucks, so you know, as opposed to a $15 cigar which is what I usually smoke. Something like that. And, uh ...

    12. JR

      But it's good tobacco?

    13. RW

      Yeah, it's really good.

    14. JR

      You can tell. It's like a real cigar.

    15. RW

      It's the same thing that's in their big old premium cigars, just rode by- rolled by the junior rollers. That's how they learn.

    16. JR

      Yeah. And you look like you're smoking a blunt.

    17. RW

      But, we're clearly not.

    18. JR

      Clearly. And, uh, in Austin what were you saying about the rules? It's like a qua- what did- you could have as much as a quarter of a pound before they arrest you?

    19. RW

      Uh, yeah.

    20. JR

      Something crazy like that?

    21. RW

      A quarter of a pound, is that right? Yeah, uh, and that- and if you just say it's, uh, CBD, CDB, whatever, nugs, then, uh, th- they would have to test it and they don't wanna test it. They got other things to do. So ...

    22. JR

      They have CBD stores out here, folks. It's- it's very strange. They have stores that sell CBD joints but marijuana's illegal.

    23. RW

      Right. So I don't know. You know? My- my son is in that business, and, uh, it- it- and it is confusing. The- the, uh, and I think (laughs) that's what helps, you know?

    24. JR

      Yeah.

  3. 2:27 – 3:22

    Travel chaos: the wrong Tuesday, airport stories, and moving logistics

    1. RW

      Is, uh, they- they got dizzy trying to figure it out. But I was going through LAX on the way out here a week early, and, um ... Because we set this up for, uh, we- we were talking on Friday and you said next Tuesday, the 8th. Well I don't even know what month it is much less-

    2. JR

      (laughs)

    3. RW

      ... what day of the month it is and so I just thought it's the next Tuesday coming up, which was only three days away and I was a little mad at you and I was like going, "Wow, it seems like you'd have given me more than three days notice and I gotta find a way to get to LA."

    4. JR

      (laughs)

    5. RW

      And I'm looking at flights. There's nothing good. I'm thinking about bringing my plane down, uh, which it turns out has a problem so we couldn't bring it down and- and, uh, and I get down here and he's like, "The 8th is, uh, (laughs) a week from today." And I was like, "God, I'm so stupid, man."

    6. JR

      We made it work.

    7. RW

      Yeah, we made it work. So they just plugged in the stuff a few- few days early and here I am.

  4. 3:22 – 6:28

    Ron’s Austin origin story: teen trips, 6th Street in the early ’70s, and “you missed it” culture

    1. JR

      So, you- so you're not from here but you've been here for how long now? Like two years? How long have you ...

    2. RW

      I've, uh ... You know, I started coming to Austin when I was 15 years old. Uh, my- my buddy, uh, his brother had taught economics at UT and had a house on 4th Street which at that time was just little bitty low-end cracker box houses but that mostly teachers lived in and he would let us stay in his yard and, uh ... So we would tell my parents that we were going camping at Lake Sutherland and my buddy, Ricky Bellows, when he turned 16 had the littlest new Honda but he had one that was wrecked and he rebuilt it and we put all our camping gear in it and come straight to Austin and, uh, set up in my (laughs) , uh, brother's scot- uh, uh, my buddy, uh, Mickey McMillan and his brother Scott McMillan would set up in his yard, his backyard, and then we'd walk two blocks to 6th Street and it was probably '71 or '72 and Austin was tripping balls. I mean, it was people on unicycles, in clown suits, juggling, backwards music pumping outta every window, Stevie Ray Vaughan coming out of this one- with Stevie Ray Vaughan on one end of the guitar. And we're-

    3. JR

      So Stevie Ray Vaughan playing live?

    4. RW

      Live, right. Just out the window. Now we didn't have any money and we couldn't get in any clubs so we had- we were completely broke and ... But we were standing there listening to this music watching this scene of 6th Street in '71. I guess it was about '71 or two when I would've been 15. '71. And, uh, and even then there were people going, "It's over. You should've seen it in '67." I'm like-

    5. JR

      (laughs)

    6. RW

      ... still (laughs) still- still looks pretty good to me, man. (laughs) Uh ...

    7. JR

      Isn't that just what people always do though?

    8. RW

      Oh yeah, uh, uh ...

    9. JR

      "You missed it, man."

    10. RW

      Just the other day somebody was like, "Oh yeah, it's just not what it used to be," and I'm like, "When'd you get here?" Like, "Thursday." I'm like, "Fuck, dude. Really? It's taken a dive since Thursday?"

    11. JR

      All these fucking Californians moving in.

    12. RW

      Yeah, they really hate that shit.

    13. JR

      Yeah, I talked to, uh, this guy's doing, uh, IT work, he's like, "We're being invaded."

    14. RW

      Right.

    15. JR

      Bro, relax.

    16. RW

      Well, you know, it's a ... it-

    17. JR

      I get it.

    18. RW

      It's a great state and- and, uh, w- but it's, uh, it's just a liberal stronghold in the middle of a very Republican state and, you know, I was born and raised here and then, you know, w- if people ask me if I'm a Texan I tell 'em I'm a Texan. You know, this is where I'm from and- and, uh, the state is, uh, slowly changing and- and becoming more palatable for everybody and, uh, but there's still a pretty hard right wing, you know, faction that runs it all out of, um, out of Dallas where all the money is, and Houston, and ...

    19. JR

      But that's what keeps it from going haywire, right?

    20. RW

      Right. Right.

    21. JR

      That's what keeps it from going straight Portland.

    22. RW

      Right. (laughs) Yeah.

    23. JR

      (laughs)

    24. RW

      That- that's it.

    25. JR

      ... you fucking need that, man.

    26. RW

      That- there- yeah.

    27. JR

      Those people are ridiculous. You need that.

    28. RW

      Yeah.

    29. JR

      You need, you need law and order. You do. I don't give, I don't give a fuck what anybody says.

    30. RW

      Yeah, yeah. That's, uh, remember my old joke was, uh, if you come to Texas and kill somebody, we will kill you back.

  5. 6:28 – 11:29

    Texas vs California politics: law, order, protests, and the “Chaz” lesson

    1. JR

      It's just, uh, I just feel like, uh, you know, people wanna throw away everything that's there. They would just wanna d- break it all down and deconstruct society, but they don't really- I mean, their, their plan once they do that, like you, you saw what happened with, uh, that six block chunk of Seattle that they took over, Chaz.

    2. RW

      Of course. Yeah.

    3. JR

      It deteriorated almost instantly and became a, a terribly run country.

    4. RW

      Right.

    5. JR

      They had borders. They had people beating people up for film and things. I mean, they had murders. They-

    6. RW

      They were thinking about walls. Yeah.

    7. JR

      Yes. They took over too. Not only that, they appropriated all the buildings. They didn't build those buildings. They just took it over. But the problem with that kind of thinking is even if you think you're right, you- what you're doing, now someone can do that to you because you've already shown that it can be done.

    8. RW

      Right.

    9. JR

      You've already shown that you could just-

    10. RW

      No doubt.

    11. JR

      ... by force, you can light the fucking mayor of Portland's apartment building on fire and stand out and chant. Well, they could do that to your house too.

    12. RW

      Right.

    13. JR

      You gotta understand, like, what you're doing is not nice. It's not civilized. It's not polite. This is a civilized society.

    14. RW

      Sure is.

    15. JR

      And if you decide that you're gonna do things that are not civilized and you're gonna justify it, people can do things that are not civilized to you. Like, the Founding Fathers, as crazy as it is, in the 1700s, figured this shit out in advance. They had a whole series of checks and balances to keep things from going sideways. They really had some good ideas. It's really amazing when you stop and think about their great insight into human nature and how it could apply.

    16. RW

      And, and where it might go, right?

    17. JR

      They were right. They were right.

    18. RW

      Yeah. Now, you know, when we were having protests and, uh, and vandalism and whatever in Beverly Hills, and they were saying that, uh, the next, uh, you know, they're coming to tear you apart, town apart, you know?

    19. JR

      Yeah.

    20. RW

      I really didn't think they would, but I still had a, uh, retired Navy SEAL standing in front of my house (laughs) uh, with a gun. And, uh, his message was, "Why don't you go fuck up the house next door to Ron and, uh-" (laughs)

    21. JR

      (laughs)

    22. RW

      "... and leave Ron's place alone?" Of course-

    23. JR

      Well, it's just these young people with these idealistic ideas about people that are successful, that somehow or another you've stolen it from other people and that you need to give it back to everyone else and we need to have a communist society. And it's like, how-

    24. RW

      Right.

    25. JR

      Where's the money coming from? Where- who's gonna work? What are you gonna do? Have you thought this through?

    26. RW

      Right. You know, I'd always chosen the path of least resistance in my life, and it just ended up here, you know, in Joe Rogan's studio at 63 years old.

    27. JR

      (laughs)

    28. RW

      This is the path of least resistance. This is where I ended up.

    29. JR

      It is, but it isn't. You know, you say that, but you, you were a grinder. You were out there on the road doing the hard gigs. That's not least, least resistance.

    30. RW

      No, it was.

  6. 11:29 – 1:09:10

    Comedy shutdown and retirement talk: tours canceled mid-run and the fear of coming back

    1. RW

      I thought it was retirement, but, uh, now it turns out, you know, I, I really, I really believe that I'm retired. I believe I'm done.

    2. JR

      Really?

    3. RW

      Mm-hmm.

    4. JR

      You're done with standup?

    5. RW

      I think so.

    6. JR

      Listen, man, we're gonna open up a club here in Austin.

    7. RW

      Oh, I'll do that.

    8. JR

      I'm gonna, I'm gonna drag you in.

    9. RW

      Yeah.

    10. JR

      You're gonna crush. You're gonna get that- the feeling down to your toes, that tingle. Woo!

    11. RW

      I haven't even thought about a set in, in a half a year, you know. They, they tapped on my bus in, uh, the parking lot of a venue, uh, in, uh, Springfield, uh, Illinois. And, uh, the parking lot was half full. You know, I'd flown out from LA, got on my tour bus in, uh, in, uh, St. Louis.... my crew's with me, the crowd showing up, they knock on the door and said it's over.

    12. JR

      Wow.

    13. RW

      And the government just, uh, the governor just pulled the plug on this date, and then they plugged it on the next date. And I'm like, "Fuck, there's not gonna be any shows till May, I bet."

    14. JR

      (laughs)

    15. RW

      (laughs) And boy, was I wrong.

    16. JR

      It's, right now we're in September.

    17. RW

      Yes. It is September.

    18. JR

      And there's no shows in sight. Well, you can go some places. Uh, Houston's doing shows, San Antonio's doing shows.

    19. RW

      Right.

    20. JR

      Nashville's doing shows. Kansas City's doing shows. A lot of places are like, "Fuck it, let's roll, let's just do it."

    21. RW

      Yeah. But you know, the, you know, Zanies in Nashville, uh, Hugley fucking collapsed on stage there. And he had-

    22. JR

      Yeah.

    23. RW

      ... COVID, and-

    24. JR

      Yeah.

    25. RW

      ... the guy that ran the club, uh, got COVID from him and...

    26. JR

      He got it from Hugley?

    27. RW

      Yeah, from Hugley. Well, he got it, so we're assuming-

    28. JR

      Yeah.

    29. RW

      ... it was from Hugley.

    30. JR

      Maybe he ga- maybe he gave it to him.

  7. 23:17 – 29:24

    Pandemic road trip and protecting family: Vegas, Sedona, and visiting his mom safely

    1. RW

      Right. Well, that's what... You know, I was telling you that my girlfriend and I, I was gonna move, uh, this... I bought a new car for her out in LA and I wanted to move the car that was out there out here so we decided to just drive it. So we stopped in Vegas and, uh, stayed at the Bellagio. And I've always worked at The Mirage and I found out that outside The Mirage, I'm nobody (laughs) even with the MGM Grand folks. And so it was kind of just... You know, a week before we got there, people were going, "Who's got the keys to this thing, man? How do you turn those lights on?"

    2. JR

      Oh, right. Yeah.

    3. RW

      We fired those people. Uh, we gotta get them back because we don't know how to do this.

    4. JR

      Yeah, those casinos have basically shut down for months at a time.

    5. RW

      Yeah and they were...

    6. JR

      Furloughed everybody.

    7. RW

      And those are monster complicated fucking properties.

    8. JR

      Yeah, yeah.

    9. RW

      And, uh, then we went to, uh... We, we did some gambling, we ate some decent food and no shows or anything and we were there for three days and it was great. Played golf and...... and, uh, but we just stayed to ourselves. And we won some money playing blackjack and went and, uh, spent it immediately on caviar and champagne. And, uh, like, "Look what we won." (laughs) "This is great." And we went to Sedona, uh, and, uh, Sedona is... You've been to Sedona, Arizona?

    10. JR

      Mm-hmm.

    11. RW

      It's like-

    12. JR

      Hippie land.

    13. RW

      Yeah. It's-

    14. JR

      It's all crystals-

    15. RW

      But it's gorgeous.

    16. JR

      ... and faith healers.

    17. RW

      Just beautiful.

    18. JR

      It is beautiful.

    19. RW

      Oh, it's like, it's stunning. I mean, it... Every direction you look, it's, it-

    20. JR

      Why does it attract so many flaky people, though?

    21. RW

      They say it's because of some kind of a vibe-

    22. JR

      Energy.

    23. RW

      ... that it has.

    24. JR

      Mm-hmm.

    25. RW

      Energy or whatever.

    26. JR

      Yeah.

    27. RW

      And, uh, we were staying in this, you know, it's kind of a five-star resort and it was down on this river with these little cabins and this beautiful river, Wolf whatever, Oak Creek or whatever it is, and cuts through these huge canyons and, and, uh, you could take these Adirondack chairs and put them in the river and just sit in this beautiful, clear running river with... And, and just sit out there and relax and let the world go by and breathe. And it was really, really nice. And, uh, I told Jeanne, I said, "You know what we could do?" 'Cause we had, our... We were... Made kind of last minute reservations so we had the littlest cabin furthest from the river. But there was a little house right on the river. I don't know what they charged for it but it was cool as shit. And I said, "You know what we could do? We could pool our money and just rent this place and we'll just live here-

    28. JR

      Forever.

    29. RW

      ... until we're broke. Until it's all... Or there's... The money's gone, we've run up a tab, we can't pay it, we just... Hey, I'll tell them there's money coming, we've already spent millions here. And, uh, then when the cops are wading into the river to drag us out and throw us off the property, we'll shoot ourselves and just float dead." And she was like, "What?" (laughs) I'm like-

    30. JR

      (laughs)

  8. 29:24 – 32:17

    Health regimen debate: vitamin D, supplements, sleep, and energy as a lifestyle outcome

    1. JR

      You taking your vitamin D?

    2. RW

      No.

    3. JR

      Okay. Well, you gotta take vitamin D. It's very important. There was a, an article that was just published recently that I put on my Twitter page, um, that-

    4. RW

      I don't, I don't read your Twitter page.

    5. JR

      You sh-

    6. RW

      But-

    7. JR

      You don't have to but I'll, I'll send you the things-

    8. RW

      Okay.

    9. JR

      ... directly that are important.

    10. RW

      All right.

    11. JR

      But, uh, this was, uh, talking about vitamin C and people that, uh, get COVID and wind up in the ICU. And vitamin, vitamin D rather. Vitamin D seems to be the, the biggest factor. That people, um... One of the things, uh, Dr. Rhonda Patrick talked about on the podcast too is that more than 80% of the people in the ICU are deficient in vitamin D and only 4% had sufficient levels of vitamin D. Vitamin D has a significant impact on your immune system and most people don't get it. You probably get a good amount because you're out in the sun golfing a lot but probably not quite enough.

    12. RW

      Right.

    13. JR

      And you should almost always supplement.

    14. RW

      Yeah, my, you know, my doctor said something. I just had all my tests done the other day and, and, uh, he said that you need to bo- boost your, um-... vitamin D, that's what he said.

    15. JR

      Yeah. Everybody does.

    16. RW

      And, uh, yeah, right. So-

    17. JR

      Humans aren't supposed to live in this little fucking red spaceship. We're supposed to be outside in the world.

    18. RW

      Yeah.

    19. JR

      I mean, this is how we evolved.

    20. RW

      Right.

    21. JR

      We evolved to be outside all the time. We didn't evolve to be indoor creatures. So our bodies are designed to absorb vitamin D from the sun. I mean, that's, uh, that's how we create vitamin D in our body.

    22. RW

      Right. And I think you're right. I do sp- I, I do spend an awful lot of time outside, so that... But I'm, uh, you know, I need to get on a program, that's for sure, you know.

    23. JR

      Are you willing? I'll put you on a program.

    24. RW

      I'm willing. I'm willing-

    25. JR

      I'll get you some vitamins.

    26. RW

      ... to be on a program. Yeah. A- do you take a d- ton of vitamins?

    27. JR

      I take a lot of shit.

    28. RW

      E- even though you're-

    29. JR

      (clears throat)

    30. RW

      Do you, and y- and you believe it's all good and that it's-

  9. 32:17 – 41:41

    Tequila toast and microdosing: Ron’s brand, drinking boundaries, and psychedelics as a ‘sparkle’

    1. RW

      ... I've told you that before, instead of a depressant. Cheers, Joe Rogan.

    2. JR

      Cheers, my brother.

    3. RW

      Congratulations to both of us-

    4. JR

      Thank you.

    5. RW

      ... for everything.

    6. JR

      For everything.

    7. RW

      (laughs)

    8. JR

      Mm. Whoo. Goddamn, Ron White.

    9. RW

      Well, you gotta make sure they have 'em.

    10. JR

      You smell it?

    11. NA

      Yeah.

    12. JR

      (laughs)

    13. RW

      I'm gonna... I'm stocking your bar at your house, so I brought a box-

    14. JR

      Okay.

    15. RW

      ... of tequila, so, uh-

    16. JR

      Beautiful. I'll have some good ideas with this stuff. This stuff will bring me to some strange places.

    17. RW

      It will.

    18. JR

      For sure.

    19. RW

      I was also gonna bring some shrooms, but I decided not to.

    20. JR

      Oh. Are you, uh, still microdosing?

    21. RW

      You know, it-

    22. JR

      Did it stop working?

    23. RW

      No, it didn't stop working. I, the, the guy I was getting it from went to prison, and, uh, so...

    24. JR

      For mushrooms?

    25. RW

      I don't know. (laughs)

    26. JR

      What are the odds?

    27. RW

      Yeah, right.

    28. JR

      (laughs)

    29. RW

      I don't know. Yeah, I guess, I think that's exactly what happened.

    30. JR

      Who the fuck is putting someone in jail for mushrooms? That guy should go to jail.

  10. 41:41 – 1:00:40

    Why Texas is different: Comanches, Rangers, revolvers, and fierce independence

    1. JR

      Do you know why, uh, this place is so crazy? Do you know the whole history of why it's so different than anywhere else?

    2. RW

      Why Austin or Texas?

    3. JR

      Just Texas in general.

    4. RW

      Because it was its own country.

    5. JR

      'Cause of the Comanches.

    6. RW

      Oh, the Comanches. (laughs)

    7. JR

      It's really what it is.

    8. RW

      Oh, okay. Well, all right.

    9. JR

      They had their-

    10. RW

      Let's hear it, Joe.

    11. JR

      They had to fight off the Comanches. The Comanches-

    12. RW

      They were mean.

    13. JR

      ... were the baddest motherfuckers-

    14. RW

      Yeah.

    15. JR

      ... in the plains. And they literally ran the western part of this country.

    16. RW

      Sure.

    17. JR

      They were the most savage. They, they, all they ate was meat. They lived off of, like, buffalo meat, basically. They learned how to ride horseback better than any other Indians. They learned how, and they called themselves Indians. This is the thing, like, Native American versus Indian. I've talked to them. They prefer the term Indian. I don't, I don't know if that applies to all of them, but the ones that I've talked to and I've been trying to educate myself about this shit, they said, "We, we prefer the term Indians."

    18. RW

      But didn't the American pe- or the, the settlers call them Indians?

    19. JR

      Yeah.

    20. RW

      'Cause they thought we were in, they were in India.

    21. JR

      They, the original people in the 1400s thought they were in India.

    22. RW

      Yeah.

    23. JR

      But for whatever reason-

    24. RW

      It stuck.

    25. JR

      ... it stuck.

    26. RW

      Right.

    27. JR

      And, but the Comanches, they were, when the-... the Texas Rangers were the first guys to figure out how to beat the Comanches. So Mexico was allowing people to move in to Texas and Oklahoma back in the day when the settlers were there. They're like, "Go ahead, my friend. Go ahead. It's free." And they were basically using settlers as a buffer for the Comanches because everybody who moved into these places and built houses just got slaughtered.

    28. RW

      Right.

    29. JR

      And so when the Texas Rangers-

    30. RW

      But Texas was in Mexico until when?

  11. 1:00:40 – 1:14:15

    UFO deep dive: Fravor, Bob Lazar, government statements, and belief percentages

    1. JR

      Or the aliens land. I've been thinking the aliens-

    2. RW

      You-

    3. JR

      ... are coming, by the way.

    4. RW

      You know, I- I was talking to a buddy of mine the other day, a- another billionaire. I got a few billionaire buddies, and, uh-

    5. JR

      Look at you.

    6. RW

      I know.

    7. JR

      It's a good move.

    8. RW

      I (laughs) I know, really.

    9. JR

      Yeah.

    10. RW

      I think I'm sucking up to them for a reason.

    11. JR

      They'll- they'll- they'll tell you in advance with- what's about to happen.

    12. RW

      Well, uh, and, uh, well- well- well, this one ...... this guy, a particular guy, is, uh, uh, really, really, really smart and, uh, he, he has no doubt in his mind whatsoever that, uh, aliens are, uh, dancing among us. And, uh-

    13. JR

      I think he's right. Pass me one of them little baby cigars, Ron White. I love those things. I'm getting addicted to them.

    14. RW

      The white one or the dark one?

    15. JR

      Oh, there's different colors?

    16. RW

      Well, there's this one.

    17. JR

      Oh, that's not a cigar.

    18. RW

      Right?

    19. JR

      I know what the fuck that is.

    20. RW

      That's a CDB. Uh-

    21. JR

      Oh.

    22. RW

      ... one of those things-

    23. JR

      Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

    24. RW

      ... that we were talking about earlier.

    25. JR

      Give me some of that light. Mm. Thank you, sir. Yeah. I'm convinced. (lighter clicks) (exhales) I'm 100% convinced. (lighter clicks) I used to be, uh, 60%.

    26. RW

      And you're up to 100?

    27. JR

      Yeah, I talked to Commander Fravor-

    28. RW

      Uh, let me tell you this.

    29. JR

      ... David Fravor.

    30. RW

      The, uh, uh ... At one time in my life I could do, uh, 75 pushups and I'm down to three. (exhales) All right. Go ahead.

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