The Joe Rogan ExperienceJoe Rogan Experience #1541 - Bridget Phetasy
EVERY SPOKEN WORD
150 min read · 30,029 words- 0:00 – 2:18
Breathwork, meditation, and stress relief (from float tanks to six-second breathing)
- NANarrator
(drumming) Joe Rogan podcast, check it out.
The Joe Rogan Experience.
- JRJoe Rogan
Train by day, Joe Rogan podcast by night, all day. (rock music plays) Oh, hello, Bridget.
- BPBridget Phetasy
Hello.
- JRJoe Rogan
Welcome.
- BPBridget Phetasy
We're gonna save the world-
- JRJoe Rogan
W- yeah, that's what I heard you were gonna say.
- BPBridget Phetasy
... right now.
- JRJoe Rogan
Th- I'm sorry for being late for the most California reason ever.
- BPBridget Phetasy
(laughs)
- JRJoe Rogan
I d- I really, I thought I was meditating for 20 minutes and I was 45 minutes in, I was like, "What happened?"
- BPBridget Phetasy
Last time we talked, you hadn't even started meditating yet, so tell me about this journey.
- JRJoe Rogan
Well, I d- I would do it occasionally.
- BPBridget Phetasy
Yeah, but you weren't really into it.
- JRJoe Rogan
But most of the time, I was getting in the tank.
- BPBridget Phetasy
Uh-huh.
- JRJoe Rogan
Which is kind of like meditating.
- BPBridget Phetasy
Uh-huh.
- JRJoe Rogan
But, you know, the, the tank is its own thing.
- BPBridget Phetasy
Yeah.
- JRJoe Rogan
Uh, but, yeah, I've been doing... I, I, uh, had this guy James Nestor on, he's the author of Breathe. Breath, Breathe, Breath.
- BPBridget Phetasy
Breath. Breath.
- JRJoe Rogan
Breath. Breath. Breath. The book is Breath. I always forget which ones has the E at the end.
- BPBridget Phetasy
(laughs)
- JRJoe Rogan
(laughs) Um, but, uh, I g- I really got into breathing exercises afterwards.
- BPBridget Phetasy
Uh-huh.
- JRJoe Rogan
And so, I mean, I'm calling it meditating, but I'm really doing both. I'm meditating and doing... And while I'm doing these breathing exercises, I'm just concentrating on breath. It is the-
- BPBridget Phetasy
Trippy.
- JRJoe Rogan
It is the best fucking stress reliever.
- BPBridget Phetasy
Yeah.
- 2:18 – 3:24
COVID vulnerability, hidden comorbidities, and vaping as a respiratory risk multiplier
- JRJoe Rogan
But he knew somebody though that got it early in Italy-
- BPBridget Phetasy
Yeah.
- JRJoe Rogan
... and got really sick.
- BPBridget Phetasy
Yeah.
- JRJoe Rogan
But then upon questioning, um, I was asking him a bunch of things, like, the guy was drinking. Like, the guy was partying and then he, he was skiing and then he caught COVID. So, uh, the people that I know that have got it and got it bad were all compromised.
- BPBridget Phetasy
Yeah.
- JRJoe Rogan
They w- they were all beaten down, worn out, and then it got them. That's where it gets scary.
- BPBridget Phetasy
Or you don't know. We had a friend whose, um, boyfriend's brother died of it and he got it, but he was sick for two weeks and his wife was like, "Please go." And he didn't-
- JRJoe Rogan
Hm.
- BPBridget Phetasy
... because he's a dude. (laughs) And-
- JRJoe Rogan
Yeah. Yep.
- BPBridget Phetasy
... and then he went and, um, found out that he had, like, diabetes or something. He didn't even know he had it.
- JRJoe Rogan
Hm.
- BPBridget Phetasy
And so he was compromised and it was really tragic and sad, but-
- JRJoe Rogan
Well, our nurse was telling us, she was... How harsh is she?
- BPBridget Phetasy
Yeah. She's hardcore. (laughs)
- JRJoe Rogan
Harsh, harsh. What she's seen-
- BPBridget Phetasy
I al- I like it, though.
- JRJoe Rogan
She's seen it. She's great, I love her. But anyway, when she's, uh, doing the test, she's telling us about all these kids that vape that are dying.
- BPBridget Phetasy
Oh yeah, I've been hearing this.
- JRJoe Rogan
Yeah. Fucking getting pneumonia and dying from vaping.
- 3:24 – 4:38
Hydroxychloroquine politics: when treatment debates become identity warfare
- BPBridget Phetasy
Here's a fun story. I was g- talking to my physical therapist, and he is married to an Italian woman, so they were hearing all the stories from Italy and then all the whole s- thing about like hydrochloric, hydroxychloroquine came out. And, well-
- JRJoe Rogan
Hydroxy? Hydroxy?
- BPBridget Phetasy
The hy- hydroxychloroquine, howev- however the hell you say it.
- JRJoe Rogan
Yeah.
- BPBridget Phetasy
Um, and he, he had been hearing from the people in Italy that this was kind of working with like some... and it was helping. So, after Trump said it was helping, he was trying to get some on the West Side, and he's like, "All these motherfuckers who are talking shit about it, you couldn't get it anywhere on the West Side of LA." Every rich person in LA went out and bought it, and then was like, "Oh, this... we shouldn't be listening to this." He's like, "But you couldn't get it anywhere." (clears throat)
- JRJoe Rogan
Well, my doctor told me that people are not taking it because they hate Trump.
- BPBridget Phetasy
Oh, wow.
- JRJoe Rogan
He l- when Schab got it, they asked Schab what your political leanings are. And he's like, "What?" And he's like, "Well, hydroxychloroquine has been proven to be very effective in the early stages of virus."
- BPBridget Phetasy
Especially early, yeah.
- JRJoe Rogan
He goes, "Fucking give it to me. What are you talking about?" (laughs) But imagine if he's like, "Fuck Trump, I'm gonna die!"
- BPBridget Phetasy
Literally.
- JRJoe Rogan
"I'm gonna die on this hill, fuck Trump."
- BPBridget Phetasy
You're literally... People have lost their minds.
- JRJoe Rogan
Lost their minds.
- 4:38 – 7:42
Online exhaustion, “educating fascists,” and the attack on reasonable people in the middle
- BPBridget Phetasy
It's, it's a... I saw a tweet yesterday and it was like, "I'm so tired. I'm so tired." I'm like, "What are you..." This whole idea of everybody being like, "I'm so exhausted." I'm like, "You're sitting on your fucking ass, you're watching Netflix, you're on your couch, you're waiting for Postmates. Like what are you fucking tired from?"
- JRJoe Rogan
(laughs)
- BPBridget Phetasy
You're exhausted from tweeting? You know, like, "It's so hard educating all these people, all these fascists online all day."
- JRJoe Rogan
(laughs)
- BPBridget Phetasy
What are you fucking exhausted from?
- JRJoe Rogan
(coughs)
- BPBridget Phetasy
I don't understand. (laughs)
- JRJoe Rogan
Educating fascists. Everybody who disagrees with you is a fascist.
- BPBridget Phetasy
Every- everyone.
- JRJoe Rogan
That's just how it is.
- BPBridget Phetasy
Everyone. And it's... I- I was talking to Colin Quinn for my podcast, and we were talking about this. I was like, "Do you not get shit for like..." He's like, "I feel like we're kinda in the same place." And I was, I was like, "Don't you get shit for being like both sides?" And he was like, "Isn't that insane though? Like, that the people who are like trying to see things reasonably are the ones who are like getting attacked?"
- JRJoe Rogan
(laughs)
- BPBridget Phetasy
He's like, "No, the middle used to be the people looking at the zealots being like, 'You're fucking crazy.' And now they're looking at us and they're like, 'You guys need to be stopped.'" (laughs)
- JRJoe Rogan
(laughs) The middle needs to be stopped.
- BPBridget Phetasy
"All of this reason needs to be stopped."
- JRJoe Rogan
Well, because you make them confront their own biases.
- BPBridget Phetasy
Yeah. Yeah. (laughs)
- JRJoe Rogan
That's what the problem is. When you're a... if you're a reasonable person, espec- especially if you're someone like you or I, who has a platform and you're reasonable, and there's a lot of people listening, and then people are like, "Wow, she's, she's actually s- got some good points. No, she doesn't! She's a fascist!"
- BPBridget Phetasy
(laughs) Look, I'm no Alyssa Milano, I don't have a platform like you guys-
- JRJoe Rogan
(laughs)
- BPBridget Phetasy
(laughs) ... but...
- JRJoe Rogan
Well, it's a real shame that her platform is a third of mine.
- BPBridget Phetasy
(laughs) That's like a really... (laughs) I'm really delusional. I wanna-
- JRJoe Rogan
The... (laughs)
- BPBridget Phetasy
This is the two plus two equals five math. (laughs)
- JRJoe Rogan
(laughs)
- BPBridget Phetasy
(laughs)
- JRJoe Rogan
Yeah, that math is, uh, that's like Hollywood math-
- BPBridget Phetasy
(laughs) Yeah.
- JRJoe Rogan
... when they tell you a movie didn't make any money.
- 7:42 – 12:22
Media credibility collapse: CNN, bias, and the ‘mostly peaceful’ riots framing
- JRJoe Rogan
... everything else is liberal, whether it's, whether they pretend to be or not. They, they lean liberal, whether it's NBC, CBS-
- BPBridget Phetasy
Yeah.
- JRJoe Rogan
... MSNBC, of course CNN. CNN is, CNN's atrocious.
- BPBridget Phetasy
This is what I-
- JRJoe Rogan
They, they're so bad.
- BPBridget Phetasy
... does. (sighs)
- JRJoe Rogan
They used to be my favorite source of news. And now I, I see, when, when you see Don Lemon and Chris Cuomo talking about white people and, and, and, and how, like, white people have every advantage, like, "Why don't you have an education? Why don't you have a loan?"
- BPBridget Phetasy
Yeah.
- JRJoe Rogan
Like, and, and Chris Cuomo's just standing there, like, letting Don Lemon say this. I'm like, "What are you guys talking about?"
- BPBridget Phetasy
They're parodies.
- JRJoe Rogan
You guys, have you ever been to Appalachia?
- BPBridget Phetasy
No, they haven't.
- JRJoe Rogan
Do, do, do you know about r- really poor white people?
- BPBridget Phetasy
No.
- JRJoe Rogan
They're, they're there. There's p- poor white people all over the world.
- BPBridget Phetasy
I tweeted something about-
- JRJoe Rogan
It's so crazy.
- BPBridget Phetasy
... they were like, "Don Lemon's calling out celebrities, and I am here for it." And I was like, "Don Lemon is the arsonist standing in the house-"
- JRJoe Rogan
(laughs)
- BPBridget Phetasy
"... asking for everyone else to put out the fire." Like, what? This guy has been so divisive. He's so... What are you even talking about?
- JRJoe Rogan
All, all generalizations, all of them-
- BPBridget Phetasy
(laughs)
- JRJoe Rogan
... do nobody any good.
- BPBridget Phetasy
No, but they're fun.
- JRJoe Rogan
But I just made one.
- BPBridget Phetasy
I know, but they're so fun.
- JRJoe Rogan
Yeah. They are very fun. I mean, we're s- we're comics.
- BPBridget Phetasy
Yeah, you-
- JRJoe Rogan
We just, we-
- BPBridget Phetasy
... you have-
- 12:22 – 14:56
Climate change as a partisan identity trap—and the missing nuanced conversation
- JRJoe Rogan
Climate change.
- BPBridget Phetasy
Yeah.
- JRJoe Rogan
Climate change is the, the biggest one on the right where they're, they just full on try to deny climate change, and it's a part of the narrative of the ideology of the right. There's a lot of people that just deny the narrative of climate change.
- BPBridget Phetasy
There are young...... Republicans who are changing this, though. And, uh, you should have some of them on because they're young.
- JRJoe Rogan
Give me some names.
- BPBridget Phetasy
I will. There are some young kids who are-
- JRJoe Rogan
(laughs)
- BPBridget Phetasy
... really pushing back against... They don't like that. They believe that we should conserve our parks, that we should conserve... That it's important. And they hate that it's become this kind of partisan thing and that it's now Republicans are anti-climate, is this messaging. And so there, there are some young people in that space. They just don't have a big enough voice, really, yet. But they're, they're out there and they're pushing back against that, and they have some really cool things that are going, going on.
- JRJoe Rogan
Well, that's good because there does need to be some pushback. The problem with the narrative on the right is that they're so pro-business that they're willing to sacrifice some environmental standards.
- BPBridget Phetasy
Mm-hmm.
- JRJoe Rogan
And people see the repercussions of that.
- BPBridget Phetasy
Right.
- JRJoe Rogan
They're, they're like, "Hey. Listen, I understand that you want people to be able to work and you want people to make a living and you wanna raise the standard," and trickle-down economics and all that shit, "but you, you can't, you can't sacrifice the fucking environment."
- BPBridget Phetasy
Right.
- JRJoe Rogan
Like, that should be a no-brainer. First, do no harm, right?
- BPBridget Phetasy
Right.
- JRJoe Rogan
Like a doctor. First do no harm. And that you're doing harm. Like you can't make money while you're polluting.
- BPBridget Phetasy
Right.
- JRJoe Rogan
Like that's, that's not good for anybody's future.
- BPBridget Phetasy
Yeah. They're seeing this in, in areas where the... You know, I think it was reading, like, the Louisiana belt, there's, like, tons of instances of more COVID mortality in the, like, Chemical Alley where all those fucking chemical plants are.
- JRJoe Rogan
Mm-hmm.
- BPBridget Phetasy
And that's the kind of untold cost and... Cause and effect that we need to pay more attention to. And then this is why I hate when these things... Like the climate shouldn't be... It... We should be able to have a conversation about this. And I think with the right wing, it's m-... It's more that it's, uh, used as a cudgel to just silence everybody and you're supposed to just get on board, and there are so many things that are... A lot of them will agree that they're... We might be having some effect on it, but what is the best way to, to try and make those changes? So that nuanced conversation is what needs to happen and everything is just partisan.
- JRJoe Rogan
Yeah.
- BPBridget Phetasy
Everything. Even the mask thing.
- JRJoe Rogan
(clears throat)
- BPBridget Phetasy
Like all-
- JRJoe Rogan
That's f-
- BPBridget Phetasy
... all of it.
- JRJoe Rogan
Yeah.
- BPBridget Phetasy
And you wanna be able to come from a place of facts. It's the same with, you know, police brutality. All of these things... If we can start with what the actual facts are, that would be awesome and productive, but we don't (laughs) ... We don't start there. We start with, like... (laughs)
- 14:56 – 18:22
Police brutality narratives, viral videos, and why generalizations break real-world analysis
- JRJoe Rogan
Well, the police brutality thing, all you get is videos of horrific actions.
- BPBridget Phetasy
Right.
- JRJoe Rogan
You know, I saw a video. There's a really terrible video that's going around right now that people are using as evidence that cops are racist because they didn't shoot this white guy who wound up shooting and killing a cop in Oklahoma. Did you see it?
- BPBridget Phetasy
Oh, I haven't seen it.
- JRJoe Rogan
It's a-
- BPBridget Phetasy
I've been blissfully offline.
- JRJoe Rogan
Every time I drink coffee with cream I say, "I'm not gonna do that again," 'cause I do it on the podcast and then I get phlegm and I have to... (coughs)
- BPBridget Phetasy
Oh. That's all right. It makes you human, Joe.
- JRJoe Rogan
(clears throat) Sorry for people listening.
- BPBridget Phetasy
(laughs)
- JRJoe Rogan
It's annoying, bro. But it's, it's a bad video. Um, they pull this guy over. They mace him. Um, they, they, they, they, they hit him with the pepper spray. They tase him. They do everything. And he's just as f- drugged up or a psycho.
- BPBridget Phetasy
Yeah.
- JRJoe Rogan
Who knows? And they get into some sort of a wrestling exchange and he gets the cop's gun and unloads-
- BPBridget Phetasy
Whoa.
- JRJoe Rogan
... into this guy's bo-... And you hear the cop-
- BPBridget Phetasy
Wow.
- JRJoe Rogan
You... From the cop's body camera, you see him get shot and you see him scream.
- BPBridget Phetasy
This is the fucking thing about our dystopia that I hate. I've seen someone die, like, every day for the t- past two weeks online. You know, where it's just-
- JRJoe Rogan
But, but here's my point. This... People are looking at this saying, "Oh, the cops are racist 'cause if that was a Black guy, they would have shot him."
- BPBridget Phetasy
Right.
- JRJoe Rogan
My position is, okay, this is... These are two totally different cops and maybe they didn't shoot him because they would have never shot anybody. May- maybe these t-
- BPBridget Phetasy
Right, right, right.
- JRJoe Rogan
... these cops never would have shot a Black guy or a white guy or an Asian guy or anybody. But the point is, this is how dangerous it is to be a cop.
- BPBridget Phetasy
Right.
- JRJoe Rogan
And this is why non-lea... There's two cops on one guy and they can't control this motherfucker.
- BPBridget Phetasy
Yeah.
- JRJoe Rogan
And this is why non-lethal methods are... Th- the cops are reluctant to use them sometimes.
- BPBridget Phetasy
Yeah.
- JRJoe Rogan
And this is also... It just shows you how fucking hard it is to be a cop. You get this crazy dude and you can't tase him, you can't pepper spray him.
- BPBridget Phetasy
No.
- 18:22 – 21:29
Quitting social media (or at least uninstalling it): attention, productivity, and self-control
- JRJoe Rogan
Sam Harris is a brave man because he's already been attacked so many times for having these unconventional but very reasonable positions, and yet he still puts them out there. And he knows before he puts them out there that he's gonna get some flak and get some... But he's... He deleted his Twitter from his phone. He doesn't have Twitter on his phone anymore.
- BPBridget Phetasy
Yeah, I don't have it on my phone.
- JRJoe Rogan
Yeah. That... Doing things like that can have a big impact.
- BPBridget Phetasy
Yeah.
- JRJoe Rogan
I was talking to Schaub today. He's deleted all social media from his phone. He doesn't have any social media in his life anymore.
- BPBridget Phetasy
Yeah. I, I really only use Twitter and I only have it on my desktop so that if I'm... I can only check it when I'm, like, in front of a computer. I don't have it-
- JRJoe Rogan
That's even worse though, 'cause then you should be writing.
- BPBridget Phetasy
Yeah. I mean, that might-
- JRJoe Rogan
(laughs)
- BPBridget Phetasy
That might be a problem, too.
- JRJoe Rogan
Yeah.
- BPBridget Phetasy
I might just need to delete it completely. (laughs)
- JRJoe Rogan
I, I think I'm gonna get a computer that doesn't connect to the internet.... I think, uh, a, you know-
- BPBridget Phetasy
(laughs) Like from 1982? (laughs)
- JRJoe Rogan
No, they have those. Like Snowden has one that has, like, a switch-
- BPBridget Phetasy
Yeah.
- JRJoe Rogan
... where you literally shut the Wi-Fi off.
- BPBridget Phetasy
Oh, okay. I might need that.
- JRJoe Rogan
So you can't get tempted.
- BPBridget Phetasy
Yeah.
- JRJoe Rogan
So, like, while you're working, the Wi-Fi's off. I mean, you could always go to the Wi-Fi and do the fucking-
- BPBridget Phetasy
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
- JRJoe Rogan
But it seems like a, like a, like a switch.
- BPBridget Phetasy
They have apps for that too. I think there's-
- JRJoe Rogan
Fucking app.
- BPBridget Phetasy
No.
- JRJoe Rogan
I want a button. Like a click.
- BPBridget Phetasy
You could just unplug the Wi-Fi.
- JRJoe Rogan
No.
- BPBridget Phetasy
(laughs)
- 21:29 – 27:05
Instagram fakery, filters, plastic surgery pressure, and the economics of ‘being hot’
- JRJoe Rogan
Yeah, this, um, this filter thing that everyone's using-
- BPBridget Phetasy
Oh, that one-
- JRJoe Rogan
... is so bananas.
- BPBridget Phetasy
... that you posted about your daughter? That your daughter's filter-
- JRJoe Rogan
(laughs)
- BPBridget Phetasy
... made you the pretty lady?
- JRJoe Rogan
How weird is that?
- BPBridget Phetasy
(laughs)
- JRJoe Rogan
You know, that was used in a class at, uh, at Texas Tech.
- BPBridget Phetasy
(laughs) That's terrifying.
- JRJoe Rogan
Yeah, it is terrifying.
- BPBridget Phetasy
Yeah.
- JRJoe Rogan
But that's what girls are dealing with. They look at themselves in the mirror, and then they look at, like, like, the, the Kourtney or Khloe? Which one?
- BPBridget Phetasy
None of those people are real.
- JRJoe Rogan
But the, which, which, which was the one where she had a totally different head?
- BPBridget Phetasy
Oh, maybe the o- I don't know any of them. The old one?
- JRJoe Rogan
Jamie?
- NANarrator
Yeah, the other-
- JRJoe Rogan
Which one?
- NANarrator
You're right.
- JRJoe Rogan
Which one?
- NANarrator
Khloe.
- JRJoe Rogan
Khloe.
- NANarrator
Yeah.
- JRJoe Rogan
Khloe.
- BPBridget Phetasy
Okay.
- JRJoe Rogan
I mean, you know what she looks like.
- BPBridget Phetasy
Yeah.
- JRJoe Rogan
She looks one way, and then the picture was like, "Okay, who's this?"
- BPBridget Phetasy
Yeah.
- 27:05 – 31:18
Texas interlude: barbecue, German roots, small towns—and Confederate statue debates
- JRJoe Rogan
I love it out here, but-
- BPBridget Phetasy
Yeah, I could eat barbecue for breakfast.
- JRJoe Rogan
Ha- which places have you gone to?
- BPBridget Phetasy
What's the one where Matthew McConaughey, um, the s- the s-... Oh, it's the one where Matthew McConaughey, um, w- said his favorite, famous line in Dazed and Confused?
- JRJoe Rogan
Oh, I don't know.
- BPBridget Phetasy
It's the... Oh, it's good. They use pepper.
- JRJoe Rogan
Terry Black's?
- BPBridget Phetasy
No, it's Spitfire... Spit...
- JRJoe Rogan
There's so many out here. You can't be bad and stay open.
- NANarrator
Style Switch.
- BPBridget Phetasy
Yes. Oh-ho-ho-ho.
- JRJoe Rogan
Oh. Oh.
- BPBridget Phetasy
So good.
- JRJoe Rogan
It's the place.
- BPBridget Phetasy
So good.
- JRJoe Rogan
For a l- a place that has, like, two million people living in it-
- BPBridget Phetasy
(laughs)
- JRJoe Rogan
... they have, like, 150,000 barbecue spots. There he is, right there.
- BPBridget Phetasy
Yeah.
- JRJoe Rogan
Hey, all right, all right.
- BPBridget Phetasy
It's not painted like that anymore.
- JRJoe Rogan
All right, all right.
- BPBridget Phetasy
Yeah. Uh, yeah, that place was amazing. I went to the other one that's really big, um, the really famous one that's kinda out.
- JRJoe Rogan
Franklin's?
- BPBridget Phetasy
No, I haven't been there yet. I heard it's amazing.
- JRJoe Rogan
La Barbecue?
- BPBridget Phetasy
No, it's, uh-
- JRJoe Rogan
Just you and I, we could d- do this all day long.
- BPBridget Phetasy
It begins with an R.
- JRJoe Rogan
It'd be a real problem.
- 31:18 – 58:55
Election-season cult behavior: Biden’s decline, ‘save the country’ rhetoric, and Flight 93 politics
- JRJoe Rogan
Social media, the COVID lockdown, the polarization of our country with Trump, and then, you know, this, this weird thing where everybody has to pretend that Biden isn't dying.
- BPBridget Phetasy
(laughs)
- JRJoe Rogan
... like, this is all happening together at the same time. Like, everyone has to pretend he's gonna do a great job.
- BPBridget Phetasy
Yeah.
- JRJoe Rogan
"I'm gonna vote for him. We just need to get Trump out of office." Like, oh my God. Like-
- BPBridget Phetasy
Yeah.
- JRJoe Rogan
... can we freeze this?
- BPBridget Phetasy
Yeah.
- JRJoe Rogan
Can we freeze this and rethink this?
- BPBridget Phetasy
Y-
- JRJoe Rogan
Do you guys have anybody else on deck?
- BPBridget Phetasy
N- no one. I mean, I guess Harris is on deck.
- JRJoe Rogan
She's wearing Timberlands.
- BPBridget Phetasy
(laughs)
- JRJoe Rogan
I guess she's one of us. (laughs)
- BPBridget Phetasy
I seriously love the tweet. Whoever it was who was like, "Oh, found the undercover cop." (laughs)
- JRJoe Rogan
(laughs)
- BPBridget Phetasy
They're like, "Anyone who sees anyone wearing these in a club, this brand new is the undercover cop."
- JRJoe Rogan
But Charlamagne-
- BPBridget Phetasy
"At the party."
- JRJoe Rogan
Charlamagne, on Instagram, was like, y- y- you know, 'cause they were saying that she's bringing back Timberlands. And he was like, "What the fuck are you talking about?"
- BPBridget Phetasy
(laughs)
- JRJoe Rogan
(laughs) Like, he's a, he's in New York. Like, dudes in New York have been wearing Timberlands forever.
- BPBridget Phetasy
Yeah.
- JRJoe Rogan
They've been wearing 'em since the '80s-
- BPBridget Phetasy
Yeah.
- JRJoe Rogan
... or whenever they started wearing 'em. They never stop wearing 'em.
- BPBridget Phetasy
(laughs)
- JRJoe Rogan
Like, does, th- she's bringing back Timberlands?
- BPBridget Phetasy
Yeah.
- 58:55 – 1:08:53
Mental health in the social-media era—and Bridget’s three-part method for beating hypochondria
- JRJoe Rogan
Well, the unhinged have never had a better time.
- BPBridget Phetasy
(laughs)
- JRJoe Rogan
This is, uh, this is their time 'cause they, they have so much company.
- BPBridget Phetasy
(laughs)
- JRJoe Rogan
You know, if you're an unhinged person, like, you're on team unhinged. You're like, you're like, "Oh, look at all the people on my side."
- BPBridget Phetasy
Weren't you the one who had that tweet that was like, "We have a mental health problem that's a, a... We have a gun pro-" Something about guns and mental health?
- JRJoe Rogan
Yeah. Yeah.
- BPBridget Phetasy
I feel like-
- JRJoe Rogan
We have a mental health problem disguised as a gun problem and a tyranny problem disguised as a security problem.
- BPBridget Phetasy
Yeah, that's a great tweet. I think about that all the time because, man, is that played out.
- JRJoe Rogan
Yeah.
- BPBridget Phetasy
Because now we're just seeing the mental health and the tyranny. (laughs)
- JRJoe Rogan
Yeah. Well, we legitimately have a gigantic mental health problem in this country. Look, I am a person who, uh, I've, I've done a lot of things. I've, I have a family. I'm happy. I have good friends. I'm successful. And I have mental health problems.
- BPBridget Phetasy
Yeah.
- JRJoe Rogan
We all have mental health problems.
- BPBridget Phetasy
Yeah.
- JRJoe Rogan
And my mental health problems are very minor.
- BPBridget Phetasy
(laughs)
- JRJoe Rogan
I just wanna be real clear. They're very minor. But I get weirded out sometimes. We all do. We all, we all get in funks sometimes. We all have issues. We all have issues.
- BPBridget Phetasy
(laughs) Yeah.
- JRJoe Rogan
But when something challenges us and we don't have character and we don't have a history of overcoming issues and we don't have tools in terms of like whether it's exercise or meditation or yoga or whatever you do to alleviate tension, and then you have the fucking gasoline which is social media-
- BPBridget Phetasy
Yeah.
- JRJoe Rogan
... and you're throwing gasoline on your fire instead of figuring out a way to put out the coals, you're just gonna have madness. And there's so many people that are unhinged-
- BPBridget Phetasy
Yeah. Yeah.
- JRJoe Rogan
... right now. Unhinged.
- BPBridget Phetasy
And it's... And they've been alone and isolated, and it, it just shows how much you need that social interaction-
- JRJoe Rogan
Yes.
- BPBridget Phetasy
... because people, I feel like, are losing their manners, you know? I've heard from many people... And it... My, my sister texted me. She said, "I just saw a real-life Facebook fight at dinner." And it was like... And someone else texted me and he said, "I just saw a real-life Twitter interaction in the grocery store." So this behavior that generally is relegated to the way we are when we're anonymous or not anonymous online with each other that you would never necessarily be if you were face to face, because everybody's been online, it's like they're starting to behave that way in real life.
- JRJoe Rogan
Yeah.
- BPBridget Phetasy
That's not good.
- 1:08:53 – 1:48:42
Discipline, ‘warrior ethos,’ and why comedy needs freedom to be hyperbolic
- JRJoe Rogan
That's why I have these, th- this, I have, like, mugs and T-shirts that say, "Conquer your inner bitch."
- BPBridget Phetasy
I love that.
- JRJoe Rogan
That's what it is. There's-
- BPBridget Phetasy
I- It is.
- JRJoe Rogan
There's a thing, I, it's- it's in me. I was talking to-
- BPBridget Phetasy
It's in me.
- JRJoe Rogan
... David Goggins, who's one of the most savage people that's on the planet today.
- BPBridget Phetasy
Mm-hmm.
- JRJoe Rogan
And he and I had a long, hilarious conversation on the phone yesterday about it. And I said, "One of the things that I really appreciate about you is you talk about your struggles." Like, there's a video that I put up on my Instagram the other day. I just wrote, "Stay hard," and it's his video, and it's him talking about this struggle that he has, David Goggins, one of the hardest men alive. He has this struggle sometimes when he gets up, he just starts feeling sorry for himself.
- BPBridget Phetasy
Yeah. (laughs)
- JRJoe Rogan
He starts feeling like, it just like, "Fuck, I'm tired, I don't wanna do this."
- BPBridget Phetasy
Yeah.
- JRJoe Rogan
And then he, he actually says, he said those thoughts into a tape recorder or-
- BPBridget Phetasy
Hmm.
- JRJoe Rogan
... you know, a phone or whatever the fuck it is, and, and then listened to it playback. And he's like, "I sounded like a straight bitch." (laughs)
- BPBridget Phetasy
Yeah. (laughs) That's hilarious. (laughs)
- JRJoe Rogan
But he realized it-
- BPBridget Phetasy
Yeah.
- JRJoe Rogan
... and then he, he got fired up and, and went out and did it. But what I said to him is, what's so important about him and wh- wh- why he's so important to people is because he shows you the weakness.
- BPBridget Phetasy
Yeah.
- JRJoe Rogan
He shows you that he has these thoughts himself, but he just always wins.
- BPBridget Phetasy
Yeah.
- JRJoe Rogan
He overcomes those, but he knows that- that those demons are there. They're there for everybody, but he's just got a long history of overcoming those demons. And so he knows that he just has to go to work.
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