Joe Rogan Experience #1541 - Bridget Phetasy

1. 0:00 – 15:00

   (drumming) Joe Rogan podcast,…

   1. NANarrator0:00

      (drumming) Joe Rogan podcast, check it out.

   2. The Joe Rogan Experience.

   3. JRJoe Rogan0:06

      Train by day, Joe Rogan podcast by night, all day. (rock music plays) Oh, hello, Bridget.

   4. BPBridget Phetasy0:13

      Hello.

   5. JRJoe Rogan0:14

      Welcome.

   6. BPBridget Phetasy0:14

      We're gonna save the world-

   7. JRJoe Rogan0:15

      W- yeah, that's what I heard you were gonna say.

   8. BPBridget Phetasy0:16

      ... right now.

   9. JRJoe Rogan0:17

      Th- I'm sorry for being late for the most California reason ever.

   10. BPBridget Phetasy0:20

       (laughs)

   11. JRJoe Rogan0:20

       I d- I really, I thought I was meditating for 20 minutes and I was 45 minutes in, I was like, "What happened?"

   12. BPBridget Phetasy0:24

       Last time we talked, you hadn't even started meditating yet, so tell me about this journey.

   13. JRJoe Rogan0:28

       Well, I d- I would do it occasionally.

   14. BPBridget Phetasy0:30

       Yeah, but you weren't really into it.

   15. JRJoe Rogan0:31

       But most of the time, I was getting in the tank.

   16. BPBridget Phetasy0:33

       Uh-huh.

   17. JRJoe Rogan0:33

       Which is kind of like meditating.

   18. BPBridget Phetasy0:34

       Uh-huh.

   19. JRJoe Rogan0:35

       But, you know, the, the tank is its own thing.

   20. BPBridget Phetasy0:37

       Yeah.

   21. JRJoe Rogan0:37

       Uh, but, yeah, I've been doing... I, I, uh, had this guy James Nestor on, he's the author of Breathe. Breath, Breathe, Breath.

   22. BPBridget Phetasy0:45

       Breath. Breath.

   23. JRJoe Rogan0:46

       Breath. Breath. Breath. The book is Breath. I always forget which ones has the E at the end.

   24. BPBridget Phetasy0:51

       (laughs)

   25. JRJoe Rogan0:52

       (laughs) Um, but, uh, I g- I really got into breathing exercises afterwards.

   26. BPBridget Phetasy0:56

       Uh-huh.

   27. JRJoe Rogan0:56

       And so, I mean, I'm calling it meditating, but I'm really doing both. I'm meditating and doing... And while I'm doing these breathing exercises, I'm just concentrating on breath. It is the-

   28. BPBridget Phetasy1:05

       Trippy.

   29. JRJoe Rogan1:06

       It is the best fucking stress reliever.

   30. BPBridget Phetasy1:08

       Yeah.
2. 15:00 – 30:00

   Oh, I haven't seen…

   1. JRJoe Rogan15:00

      I saw a video. There's a really terrible video that's going around right now that people are using as evidence that cops are racist because they didn't shoot this white guy who wound up shooting and killing a cop in Oklahoma. Did you see it?

   2. BPBridget Phetasy15:12

      Oh, I haven't seen it.

   3. JRJoe Rogan15:13

      It's a-

   4. BPBridget Phetasy15:13

      I've been blissfully offline.

   5. JRJoe Rogan15:15

      Every time I drink coffee with cream I say, "I'm not gonna do that again," 'cause I do it on the podcast and then I get phlegm and I have to... (coughs)

   6. BPBridget Phetasy15:20

      Oh. That's all right. It makes you human, Joe.

   7. JRJoe Rogan15:22

      (clears throat) Sorry for people listening.

   8. BPBridget Phetasy15:24

      (laughs)

   9. JRJoe Rogan15:24

      It's annoying, bro. But it's, it's a bad video. Um, they pull this guy over. They mace him. Um, they, they, they, they, they hit him with the pepper spray. They tase him. They do everything. And he's just as f- drugged up or a psycho.

   10. BPBridget Phetasy15:38

       Yeah.

   11. JRJoe Rogan15:38

       Who knows? And they get into some sort of a wrestling exchange and he gets the cop's gun and unloads-

   12. BPBridget Phetasy15:44

       Whoa.

   13. JRJoe Rogan15:44

       ... into this guy's bo-... And you hear the cop-

   14. BPBridget Phetasy15:46

       Wow.

   15. JRJoe Rogan15:46

       You... From the cop's body camera, you see him get shot and you see him scream.

   16. BPBridget Phetasy15:50

       This is the fucking thing about our dystopia that I hate. I've seen someone die, like, every day for the t- past two weeks online. You know, where it's just-

   17. JRJoe Rogan15:58

       But, but here's my point. This... People are looking at this saying, "Oh, the cops are racist 'cause if that was a Black guy, they would have shot him."

   18. BPBridget Phetasy16:04

       Right.

   19. JRJoe Rogan16:04

       My position is, okay, this is... These are two totally different cops and maybe they didn't shoot him because they would have never shot anybody. May- maybe these t-

   20. BPBridget Phetasy16:12

       Right, right, right.

   21. JRJoe Rogan16:13

       ... these cops never would have shot a Black guy or a white guy or an Asian guy or anybody. But the point is, this is how dangerous it is to be a cop.

   22. BPBridget Phetasy16:20

       Right.

   23. JRJoe Rogan16:20

       And this is why non-lea... There's two cops on one guy and they can't control this motherfucker.

   24. BPBridget Phetasy16:25

       Yeah.

   25. JRJoe Rogan16:25

       And this is why non-lethal methods are... Th- the cops are reluctant to use them sometimes.

   26. BPBridget Phetasy16:30

       Yeah.

   27. JRJoe Rogan16:31

       And this is also... It just shows you how fucking hard it is to be a cop. You get this crazy dude and you can't tase him, you can't pepper spray him.

   28. BPBridget Phetasy16:39

       No.

   29. JRJoe Rogan16:39

       He still gets your gun and, and shoots and kills one of you.

   30. BPBridget Phetasy16:42

       (laughs) You're-
3. 30:00 – 45:00

   It is a good…

   1. BPBridget Phetasy30:00

      And it seemed like there were reasonable conversa-... It seemed pretty, you know, reasonable. It wasn't, like, screaming on one side and then other... It was, like, pretty chill.

   2. JRJoe Rogan30:10

      It is a good question, right? Like, if there's something that's openly racist and represents one of the worst aspects of our country's history, like, w- how do you treat it? Do you just leave a statue up? Or should we have, like... Maybe we should have, like, a, a graveyard for Confederate statues, and you could, you could go, "And this one was actually in w- uh, Huntsville, Alabama."

   3. BPBridget Phetasy30:29

      (laughs)

   4. JRJoe Rogan30:29

      "It was actually in front of the courthouse until last year. Isn't that crazy?"

   5. BPBridget Phetasy30:32

      Mm-hmm. (laughs)

   6. JRJoe Rogan30:33

      I'm like, (laughs) y- you could go on a tour. And, like, instead of taking them down and smashing them, wouldn't it be interesting if there was a place you can go where you could see all of them? But then-

   7. BPBridget Phetasy30:42

      I-

   8. JRJoe Rogan30:42

      ... people would go that would be like-

   9. BPBridget Phetasy30:43

      And-

   10. JRJoe Rogan30:43

       ... "We need to put these back!"

   11. BPBridget Phetasy30:44

       (laughs) Yeah.

   12. JRJoe Rogan30:45

       "Put them back where they belong!"

   13. BPBridget Phetasy30:47

       Well, I, I feel kinda like, yeah, we don't need them, you know, and some... Uh, I, but the problem is there's a process that we usually go through to take them down.

   14. JRJoe Rogan30:57

       Yeah.

   15. BPBridget Phetasy30:57

       So I would generally err on the side of going through the process, but...

   16. JRJoe Rogan31:03

       Yeah, but the process doesn't work sometimes.

   17. BPBridget Phetasy31:05

       Yeah, exactly.

   18. JRJoe Rogan31:06

       And sometimes people just feel like they just wanna pull them down. Espe-... This is another thing that's going on right now. This is the perfect storm, the convergence of all these different things that are happening at the same time, and one of them being the COVID lockdown.

   19. BPBridget Phetasy31:17

       Yeah.

   20. JRJoe Rogan31:18

       Social media, the COVID lockdown, the polarization of our country with Trump, and then, you know, this, this weird thing where everybody has to pretend that Biden isn't dying.

   21. BPBridget Phetasy31:29

       (laughs)

   22. JRJoe Rogan31:30

       ... like, this is all happening together at the same time. Like, everyone has to pretend he's gonna do a great job.

   23. BPBridget Phetasy31:34

       Yeah.

   24. JRJoe Rogan31:34

       "I'm gonna vote for him. We just need to get Trump out of office." Like, oh my God. Like-

   25. BPBridget Phetasy31:38

       Yeah.

   26. JRJoe Rogan31:38

       ... can we freeze this?

   27. BPBridget Phetasy31:39

       Yeah.

   28. JRJoe Rogan31:39

       Can we freeze this and rethink this?

   29. BPBridget Phetasy31:41

       Y-

   30. JRJoe Rogan31:41

       Do you guys have anybody else on deck?
4. 45:00 – 1:00:00

   Oh, it's Turning Point?…

   1. JRJoe Rogan45:00

      of Rally Forge, said in an emailed statement Wednesday that the posts were nothing more than, in his quote, "Real kids operating real social media profiles and promoting mainstream American values." He said, "What these young Arizona activists are doing is honest and sincere political activism in the 21st century and in the age of COVID-19," whose firm was linked by the Post to the Turning Point project.

   2. BPBridget Phetasy45:25

      Oh, it's Turning Point? Okay.

   3. JRJoe Rogan45:26

      Yeah. It did not respond to questions.

   4. BPBridget Phetasy45:27

      I was wondering.

   5. JRJoe Rogan45:28

      Uh, "Neither Turning Point Action nor the affiliated Turning Point USA responded for request."

   6. BPBridget Phetasy45:32

      (laughs)

   7. JRJoe Rogan45:33

      "Turning Point is a conservative youth outreach organization. Its founder, Charlie Kirk, was a featured speaker at the Republican National Convention." Yeah. Um, so-

   8. BPBridget Phetasy45:42

      So it's like a sweat shop of, like-

   9. JRJoe Rogan45:43

      So they're paying kids?

   10. BPBridget Phetasy45:45

       (laughs)

   11. NANarrator45:45

       Yeah, I was trying to figure out how much they're paying this, so you're like, "Is this is like a job, or..."

   12. BPBridget Phetasy45:48

       Like, it's just these little political activist kids.

   13. JRJoe Rogan45:50

       Imagine if there was a lot of money in it, 'cause you got, like, real writers.

   14. BPBridget Phetasy45:53

       (laughs)

   15. JRJoe Rogan45:53

       Start... Like, people like you start-

   16. NANarrator45:55

       That's why I would wonder, like, if it's a good-

   17. JRJoe Rogan45:56

       (laughs)

   18. NANarrator45:56

       ... shoe money to run.

   19. BPBridget Phetasy45:56

       Oh, I could start some serious dissent.

   20. JRJoe Rogan45:58

       That's what I'm saying.

   21. NANarrator45:59

       (laughs)

   22. JRJoe Rogan45:59

       (laughs)

   23. BPBridget Phetasy45:59

       Everybody on both sides should be happy I'm not on either one of these fucking sides, and you too.

   24. NANarrator46:05

       (laughs)

   25. BPBridget Phetasy46:07

       (laughs)

   26. JRJoe Rogan46:07

       (laughs) For real, right?

   27. BPBridget Phetasy46:07

       They should be thanking us-

   28. JRJoe Rogan46:09

       For real.

   29. BPBridget Phetasy46:09

       ... that we're not picking a fucking side.

   30. JRJoe Rogan46:10

       Oh, yeah.
5. 1:00:00 – 1:10:15

   Yeah. …

   1. JRJoe Rogan1:00:00

      and we don't have a history of overcoming issues and we don't have tools in terms of like whether it's exercise or meditation or yoga or whatever you do to alleviate tension, and then you have the fucking gasoline which is social media-

   2. BPBridget Phetasy1:00:13

      Yeah.

   3. JRJoe Rogan1:00:13

      ... and you're throwing gasoline on your fire instead of figuring out a way to put out the coals, you're just gonna have madness. And there's so many people that are unhinged-

   4. BPBridget Phetasy1:00:22

      Yeah. Yeah.

   5. JRJoe Rogan1:00:23

      ... right now. Unhinged.

   6. BPBridget Phetasy1:00:24

      And it's... And they've been alone and isolated, and it, it just shows how much you need that social interaction-

   7. JRJoe Rogan1:00:30

      Yes.

   8. BPBridget Phetasy1:00:30

      ... because people, I feel like, are losing their manners, you know? I've heard from many people... And it... My, my sister texted me. She said, "I just saw a real-life Facebook fight at dinner." And it was like... And someone else texted me and he said, "I just saw a real-life Twitter interaction in the grocery store." So this behavior that generally is relegated to the way we are when we're anonymous or not anonymous online with each other that you would never necessarily be if you were face to face, because everybody's been online, it's like they're starting to behave that way in real life.

   9. JRJoe Rogan1:01:02

      Yeah.

   10. BPBridget Phetasy1:01:03

       That's not good.

   11. JRJoe Rogan1:01:04

       Well, that's what everybody's afraid of, was afraid of when it comes to, like, video games.

   12. BPBridget Phetasy1:01:08

       Yeah.

   13. JRJoe Rogan1:01:08

       People are afraid that, like, violent video games were forcing people or were going to cause people to be violent in real life. I don't think that's real 'cause, uh-

   14. BPBridget Phetasy1:01:16

       Mm, I think they've done studies that that's not real.

   15. JRJoe Rogan1:01:18

       As a matter of fact, I think-

   16. BPBridget Phetasy1:01:18

       They've, they've never proven that t-... I think there's-

   17. JRJoe Rogan1:01:20

       I think it's the opposite.

   18. BPBridget Phetasy1:01:20

       ... actually violence has gone down.

   19. JRJoe Rogan1:01:22

       Yes.

   20. BPBridget Phetasy1:01:22

       Yeah.

   21. JRJoe Rogan1:01:22

       I think it's the opposite. Um, uh, but I think that there's something about the way human beings are just interacting with other human beings. Those video games, you're not shooting a real person. You're shooting a v- a v- an a- avatar, you know?

   22. BPBridget Phetasy1:01:34

       Yeah.

   23. JRJoe Rogan1:01:34

       You're shooting a thing and it's fun. The, the thing about interaction with people is you're really hurting someone's feelings.

   24. BPBridget Phetasy1:01:40

       Yeah.

   25. JRJoe Rogan1:01:40

       And then you get used to doing that. And then you don't... You're not around people a lot.

   26. BPBridget Phetasy1:01:44

       Yeah.

   27. JRJoe Rogan1:01:45

       Most of your interactions are just this way. And then when you are around people, you behave in the same way that you would if people weren't in front of you.

   28. BPBridget Phetasy1:01:51

       Yeah. I mean, I think about how much...... um, like how many mental health tools I need. I don't, I'm n- I, I'm like you, I have mental health problems. I've had anxiety in my past. I had debilitating hypochondria that I overcame.

   29. JRJoe Rogan1:02:06

       How'd you overcome it?

   30. BPBridget Phetasy1:02:07

       Man, I, I should really write a book about it. I should write, Kill Your Hypochondria B- Before It Kills You, because it was debilitating. (laughs)

Episode duration: 3:17:16