Joe Rogan Experience #1542 - Cameron Hanes

1. 0:00 – 15:00

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   1. NANarrator0:01

      (drumming music plays) Joe Rogan podcast, check it out. The Joe Rogan Experience. Train by day, Joe Rogan podcast by night. All day. (rock music plays)

   2. JRJoe Rogan0:12

      Hello, Cam Hanes.

   3. CHCameron Hanes0:14

      'Sup?

   4. JRJoe Rogan0:14

      What's going on, buddy? Good to see you.

   5. CHCameron Hanes0:16

      Oh, man. It's good to be here.

   6. JRJoe Rogan0:17

      Yeah.

   7. CHCameron Hanes0:17

      In this spaceship. Look at this.

   8. JRJoe Rogan0:19

      Y- it's weird, right?

   9. CHCameron Hanes0:20

      Yeah.

   10. JRJoe Rogan0:20

       It's very p- uh, polarizing. People love it or hate it. A lot of people hate it.

   11. CHCameron Hanes0:25

       Oh, really?

   12. JRJoe Rogan0:25

       Yeah.

   13. CHCameron Hanes0:26

       I think it's cool.

   14. JRJoe Rogan0:27

       I like it.

   15. CHCameron Hanes0:27

       Yeah.

   16. JRJoe Rogan0:27

       I don't love it.

   17. CHCameron Hanes0:29

       Yeah.

   18. JRJoe Rogan0:29

       I don't think it's perfect, but I think it's interesting. It's, uh ... We did it really quickly. I mean, we, we decided to move here. Within six weeks-

   19. CHCameron Hanes0:36

       Yeah.

   20. JRJoe Rogan0:36

       ... we were here. Um, I said this on the, uh, video on my Instagram, but I should probably say it again. You live up there in Oregon.

   21. CHCameron Hanes0:42

       Yes.

   22. JRJoe Rogan0:42

       And I, I said something incorrect. I said about, uh, there was a guy who got ... I know there was one guy who got arrested for lighting fires.

   23. CHCameron Hanes0:48

       Mm-hmm.

   24. JRJoe Rogan0:49

       And I thought ... I'd read some other shit about activists getting arrested for lighting fires, or antifa people.

   25. CHCameron Hanes0:54

       Yeah.

   26. JRJoe Rogan0:54

       Shouldn't even call them activists. What do you call them? Crazy people.

   27. CHCameron Hanes0:57

       Idiots.

   28. JRJoe Rogan0:58

       Morons.

   29. CHCameron Hanes0:59

       (laughs)

   30. JRJoe Rogan0:59

       But it's not true. So, sorry if you-
2. 15:00 – 30:00

   Oh, wow. …

   1. CHCameron Hanes15:00

      they were finding like two cal- two dead elk calves a day every day. And this was a hard year specifically because it was dry in Southern Colorado, so the grass didn't grow. Normally, the, the grass would be taller. There'd be more cover. Elk calves could hide better. They were just laying out in the open. And the bears were like, "Oh, okay. There you are. Go-"

   2. JRJoe Rogan15:21

      Oh, wow.

   3. CHCameron Hanes15:22

      "... kill 'em and start eating 'em." And it was just ... (exhales) They, they hammered 'em this year. I mean, normally, I talk to the game warden there, um, when I was on that hunt, great guy, legend. Um, Bob's his name, and, um, he's been there for many years. And, uh, he said that normally in that area, there's about, I think, 23 elk calves survive a year out of 100. And this year it was down in the teens because of the, the grass was just-

   4. JRJoe Rogan15:53

      Hmm.

   5. CHCameron Hanes15:53

      They couldn't hide. So it's-

   6. JRJoe Rogan15:54

      So, it's gonna be a rough year in the future.

   7. CHCameron Hanes15:56

      It's tough to survive anyway.

   8. JRJoe Rogan15:57

      Yeah.

   9. CHCameron Hanes15:57

      I mean, 23 out of 100 is, isn't, uh, you know, I ... Don't quote me on these numbers, but it was just ... The point is, I wanna make, it was less this year because there wasn't the cover.

   10. JRJoe Rogan16:06

       Yeah. It's a, it's a rough world, man. The world that they live in, you know?

   11. CHCameron Hanes16:09

       Mm-hmm.

   12. JRJoe Rogan16:09

       When we were there with Johnny Hamilton and he was telling us that story, I, I've told this story before on the podcast about how they were tracking a cat. And, uh, they, they found, uh, the cat's tracks and then elk tracks, and then no more cat tracks.

   13. CHCameron Hanes16:22

       Yeah.

   14. JRJoe Rogan16:22

       And then they found the elk about 100 yards later. The cat had jumped on the elk's back-

   15. CHCameron Hanes16:26

       Yeah.

   16. JRJoe Rogan16:27

       ... and taken out a big bull elk.

   17. CHCameron Hanes16:29

       Yeah.

   18. JRJoe Rogan16:29

       I mean, th- those ... They are amazing creatures.

   19. CHCameron Hanes16:33

       Yeah.

   20. JRJoe Rogan16:33

       They live in the snow. They live in cold weather in the mountains. They live solo.

   21. CHCameron Hanes16:39

       Yeah.

   22. JRJoe Rogan16:39

       They hunt solo. They only interact with other animals mostly when it's time to breed, right?

   23. CHCameron Hanes16:43

       Yeah. Cats?

   24. JRJoe Rogan16:45

       Yeah.

   25. CHCameron Hanes16:45

       Y- yeah. And they kill ... Cats specifically kill a lot of big bucks, and the reason why is 'cause those big old bucks, they're, they like being by themselves.

   26. JRJoe Rogan16:54

       Mm-hmm.

   27. CHCameron Hanes16:55

       They don't like being ... They just kinda go off by themselves, bed, and they live a solo life basically. That's easy target for a cat. So cats kill a lot of big bucks.

   28. JRJoe Rogan17:06

       Yeah. It makes sense. But they, they're ... I love that they're there. This is the thing about predators. It's like I don't wanna get eaten by a mountain lion-

   29. CHCameron Hanes17:17

       No.

   30. JRJoe Rogan17:17

       ... but I love that they exist.
3. 30:00 – 45:00

   But it's a little…

   1. JRJoe Rogan30:00

   2. CHCameron Hanes30:00

      But it's a little rope.

   3. JRJoe Rogan30:01

      That's someone's dog, bro.

   4. CHCameron Hanes30:03

      Yeah.

   5. JRJoe Rogan30:03

      That's a husky.

   6. CHCameron Hanes30:04

      No. It was a wolf-

   7. JRJoe Rogan30:06

      (laughs)

   8. CHCameron Hanes30:06

      ... but it's, yeah, uh, uh, it had a little piece of rope on it, but...

   9. JRJoe Rogan30:08

      Have you ever heard the John Dudley story that he told on the podcast?

   10. CHCameron Hanes30:11

       Yeah, yeah.

   11. JRJoe Rogan30:11

       That's a crazy story.

   12. CHCameron Hanes30:12

       Being surrounded by a wolf-

   13. JRJoe Rogan30:13

       Yeah.

   14. CHCameron Hanes30:13

       ... or something like that?

   15. JRJoe Rogan30:13

       Well, they fucked up and it was like that scene in The Grey. They killed an elk-

   16. CHCameron Hanes30:17

       (laughs)

   17. JRJoe Rogan30:17

       ... and they didn't realize they killed an elk literally in the wolf's den.

   18. CHCameron Hanes30:21

       Oh, God.

   19. JRJoe Rogan30:22

       Like, where they killed the elk, there was like bones all over the place-

   20. CHCameron Hanes30:24

       Uh-oh.

   21. JRJoe Rogan30:24

       ... in the area, and they're like, "Oh, shit." And these wolves circled them and decided that they were gonna take the elk.

   22. CHCameron Hanes30:31

       Wow.

   23. JRJoe Rogan30:31

       Yeah, and he-

   24. CHCameron Hanes30:32

       What, what, where was that?

   25. JRJoe Rogan30:33

       It was in BC.

   26. CHCameron Hanes30:34

       BC.

   27. JRJoe Rogan30:34

       And it was him and a guide, and the guide only had a certain amount of bullets.

   28. CHCameron Hanes30:39

       Oh.

   29. JRJoe Rogan30:39

       And, uh, he only had a certain amount of ... 'Cause John only uses a four-arrow quiver.

   30. CHCameron Hanes30:42

       Yeah.
4. 45:00 – 1:00:00

   Yeah. …

   1. CHCameron Hanes45:00

      at your best.

   2. JRJoe Rogan45:00

      Yeah.

   3. CHCameron Hanes45:00

      That's all there is to it.

   4. JRJoe Rogan45:02

      And I gotta think that a guy like you who does ultra-marathons and all, all this crazy working out, there has to be something to what you're eating. There has to be.

   5. CHCameron Hanes45:13

      Yeah.

   6. JRJoe Rogan45:13

      The fact that you're eating all this wild game is that your diet is- like, how much of your diet's meat?

   7. CHCameron Hanes45:20

      Oh, probably I would say 40%.

   8. JRJoe Rogan45:23

      Just 40?

   9. CHCameron Hanes45:23

      Yeah, 40 to 50.

   10. JRJoe Rogan45:25

       What's the rest of it?

   11. CHCameron Hanes45:26

       Uh, carbs (laughs) like potatoes and rice and, uh, fruits and vegetables.

   12. JRJoe Rogan45:32

       Just think about how much wild game you consume and how much- how protein-rich that is and how, like, that dark red meat that you get from the animals.

   13. CHCameron Hanes45:42

       Yeah.

   14. JRJoe Rogan45:42

       Like, how, how good that is for you.

   15. CHCameron Hanes45:43

       Yeah.

   16. JRJoe Rogan45:43

       That has to have some sort of a- an effect on your, your physical abilities. Because one of the things that people always marvel at with you is, like, "How the fuck does this guy do so many things?"

   17. CHCameron Hanes45:53

       Mm-hmm.

   18. JRJoe Rogan45:54

       Like, how do you have the time to get up in the morning- I mean, there's been many times where you've run a marathon a day.

   19. CHCameron Hanes46:00

       Mm-hmm.

   20. JRJoe Rogan46:00

       I know people are hearing this, "Oh, this guy's full of shit."

   21. CHCameron Hanes46:02

       (laughs)

   22. JRJoe Rogan46:02

       No, no, no, no.

   23. CHCameron Hanes46:03

       Yeah.

   24. JRJoe Rogan46:03

       A marathon a day.

   25. CHCameron Hanes46:04

       Yeah.

   26. JRJoe Rogan46:04

       You've run m- multiple marathons a day. You've done days where you got up at 3:00 in the morning, more than one day-

   27. CHCameron Hanes46:10

       Mm-hmm.

   28. JRJoe Rogan46:10

       ... where you ran a marathon and then went to work.

   29. CHCameron Hanes46:13

       Yeah.

   30. JRJoe Rogan46:14

       Or you've run 18, 19 miles, went to work, and then finished the marathon off during your lunch break.
5. 1:00:00 – 1:09:35

   So what a weird…

   1. CHCameron Hanes1:00:00

      Kenya, um, s-

   2. JRJoe Rogan1:00:01

      So what a weird event. You make them jump over a fence into a pond.

   3. CHCameron Hanes1:00:05

      Yeah.

   4. JRJoe Rogan1:00:06

      That's so bizz-

   5. CHCameron Hanes1:00:07

      I know.

   6. JRJoe Rogan1:00:07

      I never knew this existed.

   7. CHCameron Hanes1:00:08

      No, see, like-

   8. JRJoe Rogan1:00:09

      How do I go this long?

   9. CHCameron Hanes1:00:09

      ... here, here's another one, yeah. So they ru- some don't have the water, like just have that barrier there, and I think there's four per lap.

   10. JRJoe Rogan1:00:17

       How many people eat shit jumping over that barrier?

   11. CHCameron Hanes1:00:19

       Where'd she go?

   12. NANarrator1:00:21

       She's in front, I think.

   13. CHCameron Hanes1:00:22

       Oh.

   14. JRJoe Rogan1:00:22

       Look at her.

   15. CHCameron Hanes1:00:23

       Yeah.

   16. JRJoe Rogan1:00:23

       Hustle.

   17. CHCameron Hanes1:00:24

       Oh, I know.

   18. JRJoe Rogan1:00:25

       Look at them legs, damn.

   19. CHCameron Hanes1:00:26

       Yeah.

   20. JRJoe Rogan1:00:26

       Got some length.

   21. CHCameron Hanes1:00:27

       She can... So anyway, so she's got nine minutes of pain. And I was asking her about, 'cause there's always a decision, like I watched her watch, uh, run this mile race, and she was kind of in back with about a lap to go. And there's always that decision like-... do I wanna go now and have it hurt really bad or just kinda, "Ah, it wasn't my day"? Like, how do you decide to, to deal with that pain? And so I was- that's what I was asking her about, 'cause that's what fascinates me.

   22. JRJoe Rogan1:00:58

       And what'd she say? She's, so there she did it in 9:19, so she's got it down to 9:02.

   23. CHCameron Hanes1:01:03

       Yeah. She's down, 9:02 is her best now.

   24. JRJoe Rogan1:01:05

       God, damn.

   25. CHCameron Hanes1:01:06

       I know.

   26. JRJoe Rogan1:01:07

       Look at all, all those ladies are beaten down-

   27. CHCameron Hanes1:01:09

       (laughs)

   28. JRJoe Rogan1:01:09

       ... down at the end of that. That-

   29. CHCameron Hanes1:01:10

       Oh, it's-

   30. JRJoe Rogan1:01:11

       ... that looks so exhausting.

Episode duration: 2:50:02