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Joe Rogan Experience #1544 - Tim Dillon

Tim Dillon is a comedian, tour guide, and host. His podcast “The Tim Dillon Show” is available on Spotify. @TimDillonShow

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  1. 0:022:49

    Touring during COVID: packed clubs, personal risk, and vitamin routines

    1. JR

      (drum roll) Joe Rogan podcast, check it out.

    2. NA

      The Joe Rogan Experience.

    3. TD

      Train by day, Joe Rogan podcast by night. All day. (instrumental music) I'm here with the COVID kid. COVID kid, baby.

    4. JR

      No, you're free. You're free.

    5. TD

      I'm free.

    6. JR

      You're COVID free.

    7. TD

      Antibodies are negative.

    8. JR

      Are you worried? You're traveling-

    9. TD

      Um.

    10. JR

      ... in some r- r- risky circumstances.

    11. TD

      Yeah. Well, a lot of these clubs that you work are ... They're pretty full. They're-

    12. JR

      I- I-

    13. TD

      ... pretty full.

    14. JR

      I've been looking at those lines outside your club. I'm like-

    15. TD

      Yeah.

    16. JR

      ... how big is this place? Where are you gonna socially distance all these people?

    17. TD

      Yeah.

    18. JR

      (laughs)

    19. TD

      It doesn't seem, it doesn't seem that socially distanced, but-

    20. JR

      At all.

    21. TD

      I don't know, but we also don't know. Nobody, you know ... I ... Is it airborne? Can you get it?

    22. JR

      Yes.

    23. TD

      It's ... It is airborne?

    24. JR

      100%

    25. TD

      Well, that's not correct.

    26. JR

      No, you definitely can get it from the air.

    27. TD

      Okay.

    28. JR

      But here's the thing, man. It's ... This is so politicized. It's been so politicized. If you look at the numbers of deaths, the numbers of deaths are way down. They talk about the numbers of, like, cases are up.

    29. TD

      Right.

    30. JR

      But the deaths are way down.

  2. 2:495:41

    Lockdowns vs. livelihoods: freedom, trade-offs, and social harm

    1. JR

      Listen, you gotta give people freedom.

    2. TD

      Yeah.

    3. JR

      This ... The government was never supposed to have the ability to tell you what you can and can't do-

    4. TD

      Right.

    5. JR

      ... in terms of, like, what's risky. The argument against that is that you're putting other people in danger.

    6. TD

      Right.

    7. JR

      At this point in time, we're six months into this fucking thing.

    8. TD

      Yeah.

    9. JR

      You, you gotta pe- peel the Band-Aid off. You gotta do something.

    10. TD

      Yeah.

    11. JR

      You can't, you can't just allow people to go bankrupt-

    12. TD

      Right.

    13. JR

      ... and never, never be able to work.

    14. TD

      Well, it's also like Thomas Sowell, the, the economist said. He's like, "There are no s-" One of my favorite quotes. He goes, "There's no solutions. There's only trade-offs."

    15. JR

      Mm-hmm.

    16. TD

      So, you're, you're ... It's a trade-off, right? So if you tell everyone, "Yes, you might keep some people healthy," but at, at what level of damage to the economy, to people's livelihoods? Suicide is up. Child abuse is up. Uh, there's all kinds-

    17. JR

      Yeah.

    18. TD

      ... of problems that come from a lockdown.

    19. JR

      Yeah, it's way up. Suicide's way up.

    20. TD

      That's crazy.

    21. JR

      Yeah. Suicide, child abuse, and-

    22. TD

      And that shocked me that child abuse-

    23. JR

      Yeah.

    24. TD

      ... was up because I was like, "Who ... " I thought child abuse was, like, a fixed thing, meaning if you hit your kids, you just hit your kids.

    25. JR

      No, I think people-

    26. TD

      Yeah.

    27. JR

      ... react to, like, heavy stress too.

    28. TD

      Right. Right.

    29. JR

      I mean, how many people are just broke and don't know what to do and their kids won't shut the fuck up?

    30. TD

      And they just got a smack-up. Yeah.

  3. 5:417:59

    Emergency powers and surveillance creep: 9/11 parallels and contact tracing fears

    1. JR

      Well, the government's not supposed to be able to have that kind of power over you.

    2. TD

      Right.

    3. JR

      And once they have it, it's very difficult for them to let it go.

    4. TD

      Yeah. Well, we saw it after 9/11, right? After 9/11, the government took a lot of powers supposedly for very good, virtuous reasons of keeping America safe or protecting everybody. And they ... A lot of those powers, they never let 'em go.

    5. JR

      Are we gonna go right into conspiracies?

    6. TD

      They never gave them back. No, I just-

    7. JR

      Are we diving right in?

    8. TD

      I just thought it was a nice segue.

    9. JR

      Do you have your Q T-shirt on?

    10. TD

      I just thought it was a nice segue. That's all.

    11. JR

      (laughs)

    12. TD

      I just thought we could bring up 9/11 really quick.

    13. JR

      (laughs)

    14. TD

      Just, we could go... It's just a nice route to k- you know-

    15. JR

      It's true. It's true. (laughs)

    16. TD

      ... the underground military bases. But I mean, it's true they, they have a lot of power-

    17. JR

      It's, it's true. Yeah.

    18. TD

      ... and they don't give it back. And none of the powers they get, they don't give them back. They don't go, "Oh, the disease is over. Now, we're gonna s-" You know, contact tracing.

    19. JR

      Yeah.

    20. TD

      It sounds great, right? You, somebody... Oh, it doesn't even sound great. But the idea of it is like, if you were in contact with people, they trace who you were in contact with because of COVID.

    21. JR

      Yeah.

    22. TD

      They're gonna do that for other reasons and you're not gonna like it.

    23. JR

      Yeah, exactly.

    24. TD

      They're gonna use that technology to trace people-

    25. JR

      Exactly.

    26. TD

      ... that are considered antisocial personality disorder or whatever it is. They don't like what you posted on Facebook, they don't like... I mean, that's coming.

    27. JR

      Or how about... What if you get injured? What if you hurt your back and they know that they put you on pills?

    28. TD

      Right.

    29. JR

      And then they say, "Hey-"

    30. TD

      Right.

  4. 7:5910:38

    Social media as a conflict machine: The Social Dilemma, dopamine loops, and logging off

    1. JR

      Have you watched The Social Dilemma?

    2. TD

      I did.

    3. JR

      Holy fuck.

    4. TD

      I did. Yeah. I, I mean, I thought a lot of that was pretty n- well-known before it though, right?

    5. JR

      It's well-known to you.

    6. TD

      Okay.

    7. JR

      But I think for people who don't, like, really-

    8. TD

      Yeah.

    9. JR

      ... pay attention to it... See, here's the difference between you and I and the regular folks.

    10. TD

      Right.

    11. JR

      Peo- people have a real job. Say if you work for-

    12. TD

      Right.

    13. JR

      ... Microsoft-

    14. TD

      It's true. Right.

    15. JR

      ... your fucking job all day is thinking about Microsoft.

    16. TD

      Right, right.

    17. JR

      Like, you have real important shit, you have bottom lines, you have to bump up, you have-

    18. TD

      Yeah.

    19. JR

      ... you have goals to meet, you have-

    20. TD

      Yeah.

    21. JR

      ... meetings you have to get together.

    22. TD

      Right, right.

    23. JR

      They have things to think of. They-

    24. TD

      Yeah.

    25. JR

      ... they can't... We're just fucking off all day.

    26. TD

      Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, no, that is a good point. We don't, we don't... Well, and part of our job is to kind of fuck off.

    27. JR

      Yes.

    28. TD

      Right? Part of our job is to figure out what's funny out there.

    29. JR

      Right.

    30. TD

      And you can't do that by really focusing on one thing. You have to just go all over the place.

  5. 10:3813:07

    Comment sections, CIA-handler jokes, and propaganda through Hollywood

    1. TD

      I, yeah... Well, I stopped the comments when one of them was... said that, uh, "We think Whitney Cummings is Tim Dillon's CIA handler." I said, "I'm gonna check out now." Like, this is...

    2. JR

      Jesus.

    3. TD

      Yeah. They were like, "He's not-"

    4. JR

      Imagine.

    5. TD

      "... talking about Obamagate on his show. It's because Whitney Cummings is telling him not to." I'm like, "Whitney Cummings, I love her to death. I don't think she knows what Obamagate is." And I have mentioned it a few times. It was like... But, uh, it was just so funny, I started laughing. But I'm like, I... 'Cause it's people's mental illness. Like, you're just-

    6. JR

      Yeah.

    7. TD

      ... living in people's very dysfunctional minds in the comments.

    8. JR

      Well, uh, there's people I know, that I know, not good friends-

    9. TD

      Right.

    10. JR

      ... but I know pretty casually-

    11. TD

      Yeah.

    12. JR

      ... that will tell me-

    13. TD

      Yeah.

    14. JR

      ... that they think the CIA talks to me about who I can have on the show.

    15. TD

      Right.

    16. JR

      Yeah, because I've had Mike Baker on-

    17. TD

      Right.

    18. JR

      ... who used to-

    19. TD

      Right.

    20. JR

      ... be in the CIA.

    21. TD

      He's still in, yeah.

    22. JR

      Most likely.

    23. TD

      He's still in.

    24. JR

      I even joked with him about it.

    25. TD

      Yeah. Right.

    26. JR

      But my interaction with him is about what we talk about on the podcast-

    27. TD

      Right.

    28. JR

      ... and then afterwards, we talk about, like, fishing and his kids.

    29. TD

      Yeah. Right, right. He doesn't, he doesn't-

    30. JR

      Like, that's our conversation.

  6. 13:0718:15

    Gotcha culture and comedy out of context: why people can’t tolerate nuance

    1. JR

      Yeah. Then people need to realize that. Like, if you take my opinion seriously, like, listen to me, I don't even take my opinion seriously.

    2. TD

      (laughs) Why are you listening to me for? Right.

    3. JR

      Half the time, I'm just thinking out loud.

    4. TD

      Right.

    5. JR

      I d- I have no i- ... Like, literally, maybe 40% of the things that I say on this podcast, I don't know what I'm saying when I'm saying it.

    6. TD

      Right.

    7. JR

      I'm just t- thinking out loud.

    8. TD

      Right, and that's the whole art form of doing this because you can't-

    9. JR

      Yeah.

    10. TD

      You have to explore every possibility.

    11. JR

      Yeah, and sometimes I have a thought that's very well thought out. Sometimes.

    12. TD

      Right.

    13. JR

      Where it's like, "No, I've thought about this for a while, and this is why I believe this."

    14. TD

      Yeah.

    15. JR

      And there's a difference. Like, you'll, you'll hear me-

    16. TD

      Right.

    17. JR

      You'll hear things that I say that are, like, really cle- I, I, like, I know what I'm saying.

    18. TD

      Right.

    19. JR

      I know what I'm talking ... And then you hear, like, rambling nonsense too.

    20. TD

      Right.

    21. JR

      And you gotta ... That's just how it goes. If you're gonna think out loud, you're gonna have both of those things.

    22. TD

      Why do you think people get so angry at the idea of that? Like, people get very angry at the idea of, like, being, just being open to the idea of being wrong. Like, people get angry, and they're like, "Every word out of your mouth has to be absolutely the, what you want it to be," and, uh, it's weird to me.

    23. JR

      Because we're in a gotcha sound bite culture.

    24. TD

      Right.

    25. JR

      Right? So, one of the ways they'll digest your show or my show is someone will put a clip up, "Look what this piece of shit Tim Dillon said."

    26. TD

      Right.

    27. JR

      And it'll, it'll s- have something that you said completely out of context in a two-and-a-half-hour rant-

    28. TD

      Right.

    29. JR

      ... where you're just, like, talking nonsense-

    30. TD

      Right.

  7. 18:1529:17

    Performative politics online: celebrities, likes, TikTok winners, and the “fight phone”

    1. TD

      Yeah. And my favorite thing is, vote. Tell everyone to vote. That's what everyone does now is tell everyone to vote. I did a whole podcast episode this week, I go, "I'm not telling you to vote. It's not my job." Vote or don't vote. It's like, I don't tell you to eat your vegetables.

    2. JR

      Right.

    3. TD

      I don't tell you to jog.

    4. JR

      Right. Right.

    5. TD

      I don't tell you to do anything.

    6. JR

      I'm not telling you you have to meditate.

    7. TD

      Hey, raise your kids. You spend time-

    8. JR

      (laughs)

    9. TD

      ... with your kids? Are you spending time with your son? He's in college. He d- you and him don't ta- like-

    10. JR

      Yeah.

    11. TD

      ... what in God's name ... Like, you walk into a nightclub to see me, I say, "Ruth Bader Ginsburg's burning in hell." Then I turn around and go, "Everyone make sure to have a voting plan."

    12. JR

      Well, what's happened is-

    13. TD

      It's absurd.

    14. JR

      ... there's a lot of these fucking idiots that aren't getting any attention. And we've found out why they're in show business. They're not just in show business to create. They're not just in show business to, to hone their craft and to be good as an actor or be good as a comic. They want attention.

    15. TD

      Right.

    16. JR

      And when there's no attention to be had on stage, they seek it out on Twitter.

    17. TD

      Right.

    18. JR

      And they seek it out by being correct about things.

    19. TD

      Yeah.

    20. JR

      Some people are using Twitter and they're just hilarious.

    21. TD

      Right.

    22. JR

      They're just saying ridiculous shit.

    23. TD

      Very funny.

    24. JR

      The same thing with Instagram. Like, L- Lil Duval's my favorite.

    25. TD

      Yeah, he's great.

    26. JR

      He just never gets political.

    27. TD

      Right.

    28. JR

      Never gets serious.

    29. TD

      Right.

    30. JR

      Everything's just having a good time.

  8. 29:1734:42

    QAnon, trafficking realities, and Epstein/blackmail theories

    1. JR

      Yeah. There's enough real child trafficking where those people get, like, positive reinforcement of their ideas.

    2. TD

      Yeah, of course.

    3. JR

      Yeah. Like, we, we, we were talking about it recently, Jamie, those 35 people that were, uh, saved in, uh, Georgia.

    4. NA

      I heard some, some were also saved in Ohio recently, so.

    5. JR

      Yeah, it's real.

    6. TD

      As wrong as they are, they're also right.

    7. JR

      Yeah.

    8. TD

      That's the thing about the Q people.

    9. JR

      That's the thing. T-

    10. TD

      As wrong as they are, they're also right in certain instances. There's... Human trafficking is a massive problem.

    11. JR

      It's a real problem.

    12. TD

      And, and there have been massive cover-ups with our government and many other governments.

    13. JR

      Do you know that right now-

    14. TD

      And we're in the midst of one right now.

    15. JR

      ... today, there's more slavery today than when we had slavery in the United States? 25 missing and endangered kids rescued in Ohio over two weeks. US Marshals located dozens of missing children-

    16. TD

      Sad. Fuck.

    17. JR

      ... between the ages of 13 and 18 in a mission called Operation Safety Net. The children found in Cleveland-... East Cleveland, Akron, Mansfield... What is that? Euclid?

    18. TD

      Euclid.

    19. JR

      Euclid.

    20. TD

      Willoughby.

    21. JR

      Willoughby. And even Miami, Florida. Wow.

    22. TD

      So right there, it's an operation. That's a trafficking operation.

    23. JR

      It, it's real.

    24. TD

      Yeah. It's absolutely real.

    25. JR

      That is, that is real. And it's particularly real when, you know, you can get kids that are, uh, orphans and-

    26. TD

      Fall through the cracks.

    27. JR

      ... foster kids. Yeah.

    28. TD

      Yeah. And the government... I mean, this is what nobody really wants to admit. That, that the United States government, um, at, at, at pr- at all levels has, in many ways, like, been either a, a kind of... I won't, I won't say a sponsor of this, on the whole, but there's elements of the CIA that have allowed things like this to happen in order to get information on people. This is s- this is one of the-

    29. JR

      Well, that was the idea about the Epstein thing.

    30. TD

      Absolutely, it was.

  9. 34:4243:55

    Project Veritas skepticism and election fraud anxiety: ballot harvesting and ‘if true’

    1. JR

      (clears throat) That, um, the guy, uh, what the fuck is his name? That guy that's always, uh, doing the undercover shit.

    2. NA

      James O'Keefe.

    3. JR

      James O'Keefe.

    4. TD

      Yeah, James O'Keefe. He's got a new one now about Ilhan Omar.

    5. JR

      The ballots in the car.

    6. TD

      Yeah, the ballots in the car. And he's got these guys saying, "Look at all these ballots. Look at all these ballots." But you gotta go with that guy, you gotta go, okay. But didn't he- (laughs) Right.

    7. JR

      Didn't he... There was some shit with Roy Moore where they were trying to-

    8. TD

      Yeah.

    9. JR

      ... get girls to say that he'd knock, knocked them up. And there was, like, a lot of stinky shit-

    10. TD

      It's anybody. It's like, anybody that, you know he- he's coming to this with an agenda, like a strong agenda.

    11. JR

      Right. But then, he also catches shit that's real.

    12. TD

      Yes.

    13. JR

      Like, he caught those people on Twitter-

    14. TD

      Yes.

    15. JR

      ... the, the, the Twitter executives talking about how they shadow ban people.

    16. TD

      Yes.

    17. JR

      Talking about how they ban conservatives or how they block conservatives.

    18. TD

      Yes. Right.

    19. JR

      That's all real.

    20. TD

      Right. Absolutely.

    21. JR

      That's all real.

    22. TD

      Absolutely.

    23. JR

      And so, it's like, whenever someone can't be straight with you, and they have little tricks and they have stunts-

    24. TD

      Right.

    25. JR

      ... whenever that- you l- you go-

    26. TD

      I think the argument that those guys make is that to get any attention in the climate that we're in, it's almost impossible to do it with, like, a sober, reasoned, rational approach. You have to... Because it's the circus.

    27. JR

      Yeah.

    28. TD

      They're competing with Trump. They're competing with anybody. They're competing for oxygen with some of the most, the, the most entertaining president in history, uh-

    29. JR

      By far.

    30. TD

      By far, right? So, anything you do now has to be on that level of, of, of spectacle to get any type of attention.

  10. 43:5547:33

    No one to root for: Sanders, DNC maneuvering, and the incentives of spectacle politics

    1. JR

      Yeah, and I know people that... These people hate Trump so much, it's like, well, then have that be your last act.

    2. TD

      All right.

    3. JR

      Have that be your last earthly act.

    4. TD

      Dude. That's heavy.

    5. JR

      How, how beautiful would that be?

    6. TD

      Yeah. (coughs)

    7. JR

      'Cause all you've done... Right. (coughs)

    8. TD

      (laughs)

    9. JR

      There you go. All you've done is say, "This guy's ruining your life every day."

    10. TD

      (sighs)

    11. JR

      "Go and die, and, and get rid of him." (sighs) I wish there was someone to root for.

    12. TD

      I know.

    13. JR

      You know?

    14. TD

      There's no one to root for.

    15. JR

      I, I wish there was someone who just stood out as being, like, this fucking perfect person that I, I really love.

    16. TD

      No, we don't have any of them.

    17. JR

      I, I wish it was Tulsi Gabbard.

    18. TD

      Yeah.

    19. JR

      I wish... I, I'd fucking vote for her naked.

    20. TD

      Yeah.

    21. JR

      I'd be out there coughing-

    22. TD

      Well-

    23. JR

      ... my mouth. I'm vote, I'm voting for her.

    24. TD

      Well, there were people that were interesting. Like Sanders was interesting 'cause he wasn't-

    25. JR

      Mm-hmm.

    26. TD

      He didn't seem like he was in the system like everybody else was.

    27. JR

      Yeah.

    28. TD

      But it also seemed like maybe a lot of what he wanted to do never would've gotten done, but who knows?

    29. JR

      I was interested to see if he could pull it off. When he was talk-

    30. TD

      That, yes.

  11. 47:331:02:02

    Hunter Biden, selective media attention, and cable news as entertainment

    1. TD

      What's crazy is when there's corruption, but they'll ignore it because it'll, it'll interfere with what they want.

    2. JR

      Right.

    3. TD

      Like this Hunter Biden shit.

    4. JR

      Yes.

    5. TD

      Bro.

    6. JR

      It's crazy.

    7. TD

      If this was Donald Trump Jr... And is Hunter the one that passed away or no? Okay.

    8. JR

      No, he's the one that's still alive. He's the one that took millions of dollars. He's-

    9. TD

      Did he marry the, the wife of the brother?

    10. JR

      I hope so. I don't know. (laughs)

    11. TD

      Something went, something went wild there, right?

    12. JR

      What happened? Oh.

    13. TD

      Didn't something go wild, Jamie? Something went weird with the brother that died's wife.

    14. JR

      (gasps)

    15. TD

      And Hunter... I think.

    16. JR

      Oh, I don't know.

    17. TD

      I could be wrong. Don't quote me on this.

    18. JR

      I don't know. But the scandal is that he took a shit ton of money from Russian billionaires, right? Isn't that the scandal? Jamie's d- double Googling right now. Hold. Let's li- let's, let's start with the brother, the wife of the bro- which...

    19. TD

      I could be wrong about this.

    20. JR

      Here it is. Hunter Biden fathered child with woman...

    21. TD

      While dating brother's widow.

    22. JR

      Whoa.

    23. TD

      I mean, this is a wild family.

    24. JR

      Well, hold on. Can I see a picture of this girl?

    25. TD

      Good point. I don't know who is who in the picture.

    26. JR

      She might've been hot as fuck.

    27. TD

      Well, Joe Biden is the one on the right.

    28. JR

      O- okay.

    29. TD

      Uh...

    30. JR

      Hunter and Haley Biden.

  12. 1:02:021:10:08

    Speech policing, culture wars, and the Spotify ‘censorship’ narrative

    1. TD

      The, um, yeah, I mean, it's crazy. Do you, now everybody's, uh, and this is probably, uh, you know, this is probably overinflated, all that Spotify stuff, is it's just complete fodder?

    2. JR

      They have literally said nothing to me about it.

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