Joe Rogan Experience #1548 - Roy Jones Jr.

Pro boxer Roy Jones Jr. captured championships in numerous weight divisions, at one time holding a record-breaking seven heavyweight belts simultaneously. In 2003, Jones made history by becoming the first middleweight champion to win a heavyweight title in 106 years. Jones officially retired from the sport in 2017, but signed on earlier this year to fight Mike Tyson in an highly anticipated exhibition bout.

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1. RJRoy Jones Jr.
  (drumming music plays) Joe Rogan podcast. Check it out. The Joe Rogan Experience.
2. JRJoe Rogan
  Train by day, Joe Rogan podcast by night, all day. (rock music plays) Roy Jones Jr., ladies and gentlemen.
3. RJRoy Jones Jr.
  Hey, what's up, my brother? How you doing?
4. JRJoe Rogan
  I'm honored to have you in here. I've been a fan forever.
5. RJRoy Jones Jr.
  I know this, and I was gonna tell you that I am very happy to be here for you and for me, because I've been a fan of yours as well. But I always loved the support that you give me. You've always supported me since day one. You've been one of the best people that I could hear talk about me s- since day one. So, I just wanna say thank you, man, for all the support, for being a brother.
6. JRJoe Rogan
  Thank you, sir. Thank you.
7. RJRoy Jones Jr.
  'Cause I feel-
8. JRJoe Rogan
  My, my pleasure. Listen-
9. RJRoy Jones Jr.
  I feel like we brothers now, you know.
10. JRJoe Rogan
  For sure. Uh, li- I've been a fan forever.
11. RJRoy Jones Jr.
  Yeah.
12. JRJoe Rogan
  Like, from way back in the day, you know. Y- you know your song, Y'all Must Have Forgot?
13. RJRoy Jones Jr.
  Yeah.
14. JRJoe Rogan
  I didn't forget shit.
15. RJRoy Jones Jr.
  (laughs)
16. JRJoe Rogan
  I remember all of it, man.
17. RJRoy Jones Jr.
  There it is.
18. JRJoe Rogan
  I remember when your fights were basically executions.
19. RJRoy Jones Jr.
  Yes, exactly.
20. JRJoe Rogan
  There was this, there's some-
21. RJRoy Jones Jr.
  (laughs)
22. JRJoe Rogan
  ... there was some years, man, where you would just, like, see how is this guy gonna survive and how long? And you, you had, uh, there was a time in your career when you were at your peak, where you had devised this style that was so different than anyone else's. Very few jabs. You would throw-
23. RJRoy Jones Jr.
  Yeah.
24. JRJoe Rogan
  ... a lead hook. No one knew how to prepare for it, because there was no sparring partners that could emulate it.
25. RJRoy Jones Jr.
  Right.
26. JRJoe Rogan
  Your speed was off the charts. Your movement was off the charts. Y- I- it's, I think to this day, you're the only person in CompuBox history that went a full round without having a single punch scored on them.
27. RJRoy Jones Jr.
  And they say I'm not the best defensive fighter ever.
28. JRJoe Rogan
  Listen, man. (laughs)
29. RJRoy Jones Jr.
  (laughs)
30. JRJoe Rogan
  That's, that's ... No one's ever ... Now, I mean, maybe Willie Pep might have done that back in the day.
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(laughs) Yeah. …
1. RJRoy Jones Jr.
  ears, your chin-
2. JRJoe Rogan
  (laughs) Yeah.
3. RJRoy Jones Jr.
  ... your jaw. You don't know what he might do. So what you better do is get in shape and be prepared for whatever Mike, whichever Mike shows up.
4. JRJoe Rogan
  Yeah, when I read that it was gonna be an exhibition, they weren't gonna try and knock each others out, I went, "Pffft."
5. RJRoy Jones Jr.
  Huh?
6. JRJoe Rogan
  The fuck out of here. I'm like-
7. RJRoy Jones Jr.
  I mean, think, you think about it. Oh, it's an exhibition, but we got 12 ounce gloves. But it's an exhibition. Exhibition, no headgear. Exhibition, judges. I mean... (laughs)
8. JRJoe Rogan
  (laughs) It's still Mike Tyson.
9. RJRoy Jones Jr.
  And exhibition.
10. JRJoe Rogan
  Yeah.
11. RJRoy Jones Jr.
  Mike Tyson, who knocked Corey Sanders down in the first round of an exhibition-
12. JRJoe Rogan
  Yeah.
13. RJRoy Jones Jr.
  ... back in 2004.
14. JRJoe Rogan
  Correct, yeah.
15. RJRoy Jones Jr.
  So what is your definition of an exhibition? Because going in the ring with Mike Tyson has nothing exhibitionist about it.
16. JRJoe Rogan
  No, he doesn't have that in him. When you watch him spar, his sparring was fights.
17. RJRoy Jones Jr.
  Nothing, nothing exhibitionish about it.
18. JRJoe Rogan
  Yeah, they were fights.
19. RJRoy Jones Jr.
  Yes.
20. JRJoe Rogan
  His sparring was fights.
21. RJRoy Jones Jr.
  Everything he does is a fight.
22. JRJoe Rogan
  Yeah. It, he's... Now, you said that he was always kind of on your radar, even back-
23. RJRoy Jones Jr.
  He was.
24. JRJoe Rogan
  ... when you were the heavyweight champ, when you beat John Ruiz.
25. RJRoy Jones Jr.
  Mm-hmm. He was the only other person I would've fought as a heavyweight.
26. JRJoe Rogan
  Really?
27. RJRoy Jones Jr.
  Because he was the youngest heavyweight champ ever, and to be honest, I probably was the lightest... Who... I started lighter than anybody that, only junior middleweight to ever go win the heavyweight title.
28. JRJoe Rogan
  Mm.
29. RJRoy Jones Jr.
  So I was the smallest guy to ever come up and win the heavyweight title.
30. JRJoe Rogan
  How much did you weigh when you fought Ruiz?
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Granite. …
1. JRJoe Rogan
2. RJRoy Jones Jr.
  Granite.
3. JRJoe Rogan
  Ridiculous.
4. RJRoy Jones Jr.
  Granite.
5. JRJoe Rogan
  Yet here it was one guy knocked him down, but it was a bullshit knockdown.
6. RJRoy Jones Jr.
  Mm-hmm. All battles.
7. JRJoe Rogan
  In his entire career, yeah. Who was it that knocked him down? I'm trying to remember the name.
8. RJRoy Jones Jr.
  Uh, I don't even remember who knocked him down.
9. JRJoe Rogan
  I don't remember the dude. Juan Roldan?
10. RJRoy Jones Jr.
  ... was it Domingo? Juan Domingo Rodin?
11. JRJoe Rogan
  It might-
12. RJRoy Jones Jr.
  Might have been Rodin.
13. JRJoe Rogan
  ... have been Juan Rodin.
14. RJRoy Jones Jr.
  Yeah, might have been Juan Rodin right there.
15. JRJoe Rogan
  He might have knocked him down, and then Hagler eventually stopped him.
16. RJRoy Jones Jr.
  Yeah. And know what? I've, I heard that Ze Alimentar passed too.
17. JRJoe Rogan
  Oh, did he?
18. RJRoy Jones Jr.
  Yeah. I was, I was, sh, I was saddened to hear that because those days were the real days of boxing to me.
19. JRJoe Rogan
  Oh, yeah, man.
20. RJRoy Jones Jr.
  Almost one champion, maybe two-
21. JRJoe Rogan
  Mm-hmm.
22. RJRoy Jones Jr.
  ... but mostly one champ, and you knew-
23. JRJoe Rogan
  Yeah.
24. RJRoy Jones Jr.
  ... who the champ was at every weight class.
25. JRJoe Rogan
  I remember when they started adding IBF and WBO, and it'd be like, "How many champs you gonna have?"
26. RJRoy Jones Jr.
  Well, see, my, my point though is h- here's my problem with that. I don't have a problem with you having more champs, but why not make every champ have to fight one another to find out who is the champ?
27. JRJoe Rogan
  Right.
28. RJRoy Jones Jr.
  When I was a light heavyweight, I had seven of the eight known available belts, and only reason I didn't have the eighth one is because I wasn't going to Germany to f- take all my seven belts for that one belt, and they may rob me because I had got robbed in-
29. JRJoe Rogan
  Right.
30. RJRoy Jones Jr.
  ... Seoul, Korea.
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1. RJRoy Jones Jr.
  make them feel like there's an oppor- there's a chance, that you're giving this guy a chance.
2. JRJoe Rogan
  Yeah.
3. RJRoy Jones Jr.
  So by playing that basketball game gives him a chance.
4. JRJoe Rogan
  Right.
5. RJRoy Jones Jr.
  'Cause sh- you know you gotta use your legs to play basketball, so your legs shouldn't be rested like they should be in a 12-round title fight.
6. JRJoe Rogan
  Right.
7. RJRoy Jones Jr.
  After the fight, this guy went on to win the super middleweight title and held it for three y- three years.
8. JRJoe Rogan
  Who was that again?
9. RJRoy Jones Jr.
  Eric Lucas from Canada.
10. JRJoe Rogan
  Okay.
11. RJRoy Jones Jr.
  Held it-
12. JRJoe Rogan
  Yeah.
13. RJRoy Jones Jr.
  ... for three years, but they say, "You ain't fight nobody." This guy, after that game, after that fight, he went and won the sup- WBC super middleweight title and held it for three years.
14. JRJoe Rogan
  (smacks lips) It, it's funny that it still bothers you that people say you didn't fight anybody.
15. RJRoy Jones Jr.
  Well, it don't really bother me. I'm just saying that I just be arguing back with them.
16. JRJoe Rogan
  (laughs)
17. RJRoy Jones Jr.
  Sometimes I got an opportunity to argue back with them right here on Joe Rogan show so why not argue with them and see what happens?
18. JRJoe Rogan
  (laughs) Yeah. Do you remember when Jordan was, uh... Wa- was it, wa- was it Hall of Fame? What was it when the... He has, uh, h- When he got up there and he's just talking shit about all the writers-
19. RJRoy Jones Jr.
  (laughs)
20. JRJoe Rogan
  ... that have talked shit about him-
21. RJRoy Jones Jr.
  Yes.
22. JRJoe Rogan
  ... over the years?
23. RJRoy Jones Jr.
  Yes.
24. JRJoe Rogan
  It's funny.
25. RJRoy Jones Jr.
  Yes.
26. JRJoe Rogan
  But I think that for all the greats, like, there has to be something that's, that's pissing you off, something that you're fighting against. It, it can't... It, it... There's no way you're gonna have peace of mind and still have the drive to succeed and to conquer the way the all-time greats do.
27. RJRoy Jones Jr.
  The all-time greats have to have a chip on their shoulder.
28. JRJoe Rogan
  Yeah.
29. RJRoy Jones Jr.
  If you don't have a chip on your shoulder, then you're not gonna be ever reach the heights or take the measures that it takes to become an all-time great.
30. JRJoe Rogan
  Yeah.
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It really depends on…
1. JRJoe Rogan
  Do you think this is one and done? Do you think this Tyson fight is one and done? Does it depend on the outcome, or you just have to focus on the fight right now and then decide what else is going on afterwards?
2. RJRoy Jones Jr.
  It really depends on how it goes, because you know, I, I'm like this man. I, I, I think Mike is an awesome person. And, uh, I know Mike has had his ups and downs in the world, but I know Mike is really, you know, he, he is Mike. (laughs) You understand me? So you don't know what Mike you gonna get.
3. JRJoe Rogan
  Right.
4. RJRoy Jones Jr.
  You understand me? So in this exhibition, you gotta prepare for the best you can prepare for. And, um, you know, anything could happen. Mike could hit you with an elbow and cut you on purpose. Anything can happen. You don't know. And you try to get him back and it may-... stop it before you get the getting back. Then they say, "Well, y'all wanna do a real fight?" Hell yeah, I wanna do a real fight with my get-back. You understand me? If that happened like that, you understand me?
5. JRJoe Rogan
  You've already got it played out in your head.
6. RJRoy Jones Jr.
  I'm just saying, yeah, 'cause you ain't gonna do just no anything if you think I ain't getting no get-back. You feel me? (laughs) So-
7. JRJoe Rogan
  Right. I understand.
8. RJRoy Jones Jr.
  ... it don't go like that.
9. JRJoe Rogan
  Right. Yeah.
10. RJRoy Jones Jr.
  You feel where I'm coming from? So, but now if we go, uh, we have a straight up one this time and it's good, then I'm cool with it. That may be the end of it. We might be... It might turn out like I want and everything will be great. You understand me? So it may be a great opportunity. We be, both may put up great performances and we might call it a day. We might be too tired to talk about it after (laughs) that's 'cause we old.
11. JRJoe Rogan
  (laughs)
12. RJRoy Jones Jr.
  You understand me?
13. JRJoe Rogan
  Yeah.
14. RJRoy Jones Jr.
  That may happen too. But, um, it all really probably depend on the outcome of this. You understand me? Because when you the smaller guy and you're fighting a guy that you know is over here today and over there tomorrow, then you just gotta prepare yourself for whatever, because you don't know what he may come in there and do.
15. JRJoe Rogan
  Right.
16. RJRoy Jones Jr.
  You understand me? So I gotta be ready. I mean, I feel safe with these earmuffs on, 'cause (laughs) it does have me.
17. JRJoe Rogan
  (laughs)
18. RJRoy Jones Jr.
  He might bite you in your damn ear. (laughs)
19. JRJoe Rogan
  (laughs) That's the thing about Mike is-
20. RJRoy Jones Jr.
  You don't know.
21. JRJoe Rogan
  ... he's so crazy.
22. RJRoy Jones Jr.
  You don't know he-
23. JRJoe Rogan
  He's so wild.
24. RJRoy Jones Jr.
  You feel me? You don't know what he might do, so.
25. JRJoe Rogan
  But I think he's a different human now, you know? He was, he's... I've talked to him twice on the podcast.
26. RJRoy Jones Jr.
  Yeah.
27. JRJoe Rogan
  I talked to him once, it was about 10 months ago.
28. RJRoy Jones Jr.
  Mm-hmm.
29. JRJoe Rogan
  And once just a couple weeks ago.
30. RJRoy Jones Jr.
  Mm-hmm.

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