Joe Rogan Experience #1549 - Tom Papa

1. 0:02 – 0:56

   Austin vs. LA vibes: dining out, masks, and the ‘anxiety gap’

   1. NANarrator0:02

      (drumming) Joe Rogan podcast, check it out.

   2. TPTom Papa0:04

      The Joe Rogan Experience.

   3. JRJoe Rogan0:06

      Train by day, Joe Rogan podcast by night. All day. (rock music) Tom Papa, welcome to Real America. I'm glad you've gotten out of your liberal hidey-hole.

   4. TPTom Papa0:19

      (laughs)

   5. JRJoe Rogan0:19

      You, you come here where you can eat at a real restaurant.

   6. TPTom Papa0:22

      It feels the same.

   7. JRJoe Rogan0:24

      Does it?

   8. TPTom Papa0:24

      It's ... Yeah.

   9. JRJoe Rogan0:25

      What do you mean it feels the same?

   10. TPTom Papa0:26

       Uh, it feels the same. I went to a restaurant and, uh, uh, you know. Is that what real life is now?

   11. JRJoe Rogan0:33

       It feels the same-

   12. TPTom Papa0:33

       Restaurant or not a restaurant?

   13. JRJoe Rogan0:34

       Feels the same where?

   14. TPTom Papa0:35

       (laughs)

   15. JRJoe Rogan0:36

       As in, as it does in LA?

   16. TPTom Papa0:37

       Just walking around.

   17. JRJoe Rogan0:38

       LA feels the same as this place?

   18. TPTom Papa0:40

       Uh, kinda.

   19. JRJoe Rogan0:41

       That's not what you were just saying before we got on the air? What are you, a fucking propaganda?

   20. TPTom Papa0:45

       (laughs)

   21. JRJoe Rogan0:45

       This guy comes here-

   22. TPTom Papa0:47

       No, I'll tell you what the difference is.

   23. JRJoe Rogan0:48

       ... he's so different off air.

   24. TPTom Papa0:49

       I'll tell you what the difference is.

   25. JRJoe Rogan0:50

       He was saying y'all and all kinds of shit.

   26. TPTom Papa0:54

       (laughs)

   27. NANarrator0:54

       Don't you hide your guns.

   28. JRJoe Rogan0:55

       (laughs)

2. 0:56 – 2:40

   Trump’s COVID treatment and the “VIP medicine” conversation

   1. TPTom Papa0:56

      Eh. No, you know what I've found? I c- I'm here to eat with you by way of Denver.

   2. JRJoe Rogan1:02

      Mm-hmm.

   3. TPTom Papa1:03

      And then, uh, and then to here, and they're all doing the same things, pretty much. You have a little more indoor, but everyone's masked up, everyone's doing thing, but there's less anxiety in these places.

   4. JRJoe Rogan1:15

      Right.

   5. TPTom Papa1:15

      There's, in LA-

   6. JRJoe Rogan1:16

      Yeah.

   7. TPTom Papa1:16

      ... there's, they keep the pressure turned up to scare you to get you to behave, so you do walk around feeling more trapped and more nervous.

   8. JRJoe Rogan1:27

      Yeah, but it's, it's not based on reality. It's not, it's not wise, it's not healthy.

   9. TPTom Papa1:31

      Well, the reality-

   10. JRJoe Rogan1:32

       Trump's 74 and he's fat and he kicked it in four days.

   11. TPTom Papa1:35

       (laughs) Yeah, but-

   12. JRJoe Rogan1:36

       I don't give a fuck what anybody says.

   13. TPTom Papa1:38

       What did they give that guy? They gave him everything.

   14. JRJoe Rogan1:40

       Why-

   15. TPTom Papa1:40

       He's the President of the United States.

   16. JRJoe Rogan1:41

       But, but it works. They have a thing, if you give him everything-

   17. TPTom Papa1:44

       Yeah.

   18. JRJoe Rogan1:44

       ... it works.

   19. TPTom Papa1:45

       Sure, but-

   20. JRJoe Rogan1:45

       It works for fat, old guys.

   21. TPTom Papa1:46

       (laughs) Yeah, but he's getting stuff that's very different from what you would get just walking into urgent care in Encino.

   22. JRJoe Rogan1:52

       Don't go to urgent care in Encino.

   23. TPTom Papa1:54

       (laughs) Yeah.

   24. JRJoe Rogan1:54

       Go to Cedars-Sinai. They'll hook you up with whatever he's got.

   25. TPTom Papa1:57

       Yeah.

   26. JRJoe Rogan1:57

       Do you think they, like, what, uh, is he getting things that you can't get?

   27. TPTom Papa2:00

       Yes.

   28. JRJoe Rogan2:01

       In all seriousness?

   29. TPTom Papa2:02

       Uh, yeah. Yeah.

   30. JRJoe Rogan2:02

       Are you sure? How do you know that?
3. 2:40 – 6:32

   Election-year information chaos: fear narratives, global trends, and Sweden comparisons

   1. TPTom Papa2:40

      I literally, last night, because I literally was, like-

   2. JRJoe Rogan2:43

      (laughs)

   3. TPTom Papa2:43

      ... there is definitely so much confusion because the, that side is ramping up the fear, 100%.

   4. JRJoe Rogan2:51

      Uh-huh. 100%.

   5. TPTom Papa2:51

      Making it scarier than it is so they can get him in, to be president. And the other side is definitely saying (laughs) , from, from Trump on down, "Don't worry about this thing," so it makes it look like we did a good job and the economy comes back and all that stuff. So I'm like sc- this cognitive dissonance, like, what is real, what ... I watched Tucker Carlson, he made sense for a minute.

   6. JRJoe Rogan3:11

      (laughs)

   7. TPTom Papa3:11

      And then I watched (laughs) I, I watched Anderson, he made sense for a minute, and I was like, let me lift off into the satellite and let me just look at the world.

   8. JRJoe Rogan3:19

      Yeah.

   9. TPTom Papa3:19

      Let me see what's happening in the world.

   10. JRJoe Rogan3:21

       Right.

   11. TPTom Papa3:21

       Just, that's not involved in this election. Spain, France, Moscow, the Netherlands, all opened up a little too much and now are all putting restrictions back. Everything's spiked, coming back.

   12. JRJoe Rogan3:36

       Yeah, but if you wanna look at other countries, look at Sweden 'cause they opened up completely and they have less cases and now they're back to normal. They have no masks. You go to a bar, no one's ... Obviously it's a smaller country.

   13. TPTom Papa3:48

       Smaller country.

   14. JRJoe Rogan3:49

       Less-

   15. TPTom Papa3:49

       I mean, look-

   16. JRJoe Rogan3:50

       Less people.

   17. TPTom Papa3:51

       Yeah.

   18. JRJoe Rogan3:51

       They, they live in different sort of circumstances. They have mostly smaller villages.

   19. TPTom Papa3:55

       Right.

   20. JRJoe Rogan3:55

       Other than Stockholm, but-

   21. TPTom Papa3:57

       Yeah.

   22. JRJoe Rogan3:57

       ... they're, they're fine.

   23. TPTom Papa3:59

       I know, but if you look at Spain and you look at France-

   24. JRJoe Rogan4:02

       Right.

   25. TPTom Papa4:02

       ... and you look at Moscow, I mean, these places, n- there's no political agenda in these places. There's no political agenda. It's just they opened up and they said, "Let's go all open," and the cases skyrocketed and now they have to, like, bring it back a little bit. It's this ... The virus is a real thing eating all these extra humans. And, you know, it's-

   26. JRJoe Rogan4:22

       Eating all these extra humans? What the fuck? What are you saying?

   27. TPTom Papa4:25

       We-

   28. JRJoe Rogan4:25

       The virus is a real thing eating all these extra humans?

   29. TPTom Papa4:28

       Yeah.

   30. JRJoe Rogan4:28

       What is that?
4. 6:32 – 7:50

   How long does a pandemic last—and what do lockdowns cost?

   1. JRJoe Rogan6:32

      How many businesses are we gonna lose between now and June, though? It, I think-

   2. TPTom Papa6:36

      I don't know.

   3. JRJoe Rogan6:36

      ... that the real, the real issue is people putting restrictions on what people can and can't do. That's the real problem, is you, you're basically giving up your constitutional rights. And there's, there's no real protection for you this way, right? There's no real protection for your business. There's no real protection for your livelihood.

   4. TPTom Papa6:55

      Well-

   5. JRJoe Rogan6:55

      And even because, even with all this-

   6. TPTom Papa6:58

      Yeah.

   7. JRJoe Rogan6:58

      ... you're still dealing with other kinds of horrible deaths and other kinds of horrible things that go along with-

   8. TPTom Papa7:04

      Sure.

   9. JRJoe Rogan7:04

      ... the economic despair.

   10. TPTom Papa7:05

       Sure.

   11. JRJoe Rogan7:06

       Like how many people are gonna die because of drug overdoses? How many people are gonna die-

   12. TPTom Papa7:08

       Or depression or suicide.

   13. JRJoe Rogan7:10

       Yes.

   14. TPTom Papa7:11

       Yeah.

   15. JRJoe Rogan7:11

       So these have to be factored in too.

   16. TPTom Papa7:13

       They totally do. And I really get the feeling like, but there's a, there's the k- the middle ground.

   17. JRJoe Rogan7:18

       Right, but the middle-

   18. TPTom Papa7:19

       Between the CNN narrative and this Fox narrative, there is the r- there's the truth. And I s- I saw it in Portland, I saw it in Connecticut, I saw it in Salt Lake City.

   19. JRJoe Rogan7:27

       What are you seeing?

   20. TPTom Papa7:28

       I've performed in all these places. And they are all wearing masks, but their businesses are open.

   21. JRJoe Rogan7:33

       Yes.

   22. TPTom Papa7:34

       And they're testing-

   23. JRJoe Rogan7:35

       Well, that's what we should have had in LA a long time ago.

   24. TPTom Papa7:37

       Yes, they're testing, they've got the masks on, they're distancing. Like I ate in restaurants, but, you know, it's-

   25. JRJoe Rogan7:43

       Yeah.

   26. TPTom Papa7:43

       ... limited capacity. I performed in comedy clubs, half capacity. Uh-

   27. JRJoe Rogan7:47

       But here's the thing, man.

   28. TPTom Papa7:48

       Not just because of my comedic draw.

   29. JRJoe Rogan7:49

       I don't think-

   30. TPTom Papa7:50

       (laughs)

5. 7:50 – 22:33

   Masks, distancing, and airborne spread: what precautions actually matter?

   1. JRJoe Rogan7:50

      I don't think that that's scientific because there's aerosol. The, the, the virus is carried through the air now.

   2. TPTom Papa7:57

      Yeah.

   3. JRJoe Rogan7:57

      This has pretty much been confirmed.

   4. TPTom Papa7:59

      Yeah.

   5. JRJoe Rogan7:59

      They used to think it carried through droplets.

   6. TPTom Papa8:02

      Mm-hmm.

   7. JRJoe Rogan8:02

      Which is the reason for the whole six foot social distancing space.

   8. TPTom Papa8:05

      Uh-huh.

   9. JRJoe Rogan8:06

      They don't think that's the case anymore. They think it's airborne.

   10. TPTom Papa8:09

       Yeah.

   11. JRJoe Rogan8:09

       So if that's the case, all that social distancing stuff is horse shit, because it's in the air.

   12. TPTom Papa8:15

       But not if you're social distanced and have a mask on.

   13. JRJoe Rogan8:19

       Th- I'm telling you, the social distancing thing doesn't mean anything anymore.

   14. TPTom Papa8:21

       Gotcha.

   15. JRJoe Rogan8:22

       What, what they're saying is-

   16. TPTom Papa8:23

       So you can be close with a mask?

   17. JRJoe Rogan8:24

       You can be-

   18. TPTom Papa8:25

       But you're still in a mask?

   19. JRJoe Rogan8:26

       A lot of these masks have holes in them.

   20. TPTom Papa8:28

       Well, yeah, but-

   21. JRJoe Rogan8:29

       A lot of these masks, like you see these paper masks that people have with the wire? There's an opening in the top, there's openings in the side.

   22. TPTom Papa8:35

       (laughs) There's a lot of sketchy masks.

   23. JRJoe Rogan8:36

       Now listen, I'm not saying it's not a good idea to wear a mask and maybe it reduces some of the droplets that go out.

   24. TPTom Papa8:40

       100%.

   25. JRJoe Rogan8:41

       Maybe. I'm not a scientist and neither are you.

   26. TPTom Papa8:43

       I am not.

   27. JRJoe Rogan8:43

       But what I am saying is, I don't know how much ... I think what you're getting is, you're getting a lot of people that are healthy and they're going out and they don't have it, and they're not giving it to anybody 'cause they don't have it, and you're getting away with it. And everybody's wearing masks and it's good to be cautious. But I don't necessarily know if you were in a room filled with people who had COVID and you ... Un- unless you had an N95 mask-

   28. TPTom Papa9:03

       Mm-hmm.

   29. JRJoe Rogan9:03

       ... un- unless you have a real mask. I don't know if those fucking cloth masks are gonna help you.

   30. TPTom Papa9:07

       Eh, I think they work. I mean, 'cause look. You, you look at these places.
6. 22:33 – 29:18

   Travel snapshots and state-by-state policy culture (Newsom, Florida, and comedy shutdowns)

   1. TPTom Papa22:33

      No, but I was, I was like... But by the way, I leave... Uh, the reason I started, like, even looking at, like, the perception of it all and trying to look at it in a global way is 'cause it is confusing. It's, it's... This whole thing is very confusing. And that we're in the middle of a election makes it so confusing because everyone's using whatever little information they have to their advantage. But there's also the confusion of... I'm in LA. I go to LAX. Joe, I could have gotten there five minutes before my flight.

   2. JRJoe Rogan23:05

      Yeah.

   3. TPTom Papa23:06

      I'm the only guy going through security. I'm... Walk right up to the gate and get on the plane. Like, no wait at... No traffic going down.

   4. JRJoe Rogan23:14

      Yeah.

   5. TPTom Papa23:14

      No wait at all. That's unheard of. And I land in Denver. It's like it's 2018. Packed. You know that big-

   6. JRJoe Rogan23:23

      Yeah, that's real America, Tom.

   7. TPTom Papa23:25

      You, you know-

   8. JRJoe Rogan23:25

      That's what I was telling you.

   9. TPTom Papa23:26

      (laughs) I know.

   10. JRJoe Rogan23:26

       You're living in this bullshit, liberal, communist, Marxist-

   11. TPTom Papa23:31

       (laughs)

   12. JRJoe Rogan23:32

       ... phony state. It's a nation-state.

   13. TPTom Papa23:34

       Yeah.

   14. JRJoe Rogan23:35

       And it's controlled by a dictator named Gavin Newsom.

   15. TPTom Papa23:37

       (laughs)

   16. JRJoe Rogan23:38

       And he wants you to be poor.

   17. TPTom Papa23:40

       Why would he want me to be poor?

   18. JRJoe Rogan23:41

       Because he wants more hair. He wants, he wants to use your money to grow his hair thicker.

   19. TPTom Papa23:45

       You ever see his sexy shot? Have you ever-

   20. JRJoe Rogan23:47

       He has a sexy shot?

   21. TPTom Papa23:48

       Y- You ever saw the sexy shot? Who is the woman that gave the... That he used to date who's now on the Trump, uh... She, she gave-

   22. JRJoe Rogan23:55

       Oh, that was his wife.

   23. TPTom Papa23:56

       Yeah. That was his wife?

   24. JRJoe Rogan23:56

       Donald Trump's junior's girlfriend is his ex-wife.

   25. TPTom Papa24:00

       His... Yeah.

   26. JRJoe Rogan24:00

       Yeah.

   27. TPTom Papa24:00

       Which I had no idea. Did you ever see the sexy shots that they made together?

   28. JRJoe Rogan24:04

       Before he ruined San Francisco-

   29. TPTom Papa24:06

       (laughs)

   30. JRJoe Rogan24:06

       ... they were together.
7. 29:18 – 37:58

   The Comedy Store documentary: legacy, difficulty, and why it shapes comics

   1. TPTom Papa29:18

      And, uh, I mean, doing the shows was so great. Oh, The Comedy Store, uh, documentary.

   2. JRJoe Rogan29:23

      Mm-hmm.

   3. TPTom Papa29:23

      I got to see it for my radio show. I got to see all the way through. They s- sent it to me in advance. It's really good.

   4. JRJoe Rogan29:29

      It's heavy.

   5. TPTom Papa29:30

      It's really great. It's... There's a real depth to it. Your part is amazing. And, uh, uh, it's just amazing. Like, what you did for that club was... Yeah, everybody kind of knows, like, how you had such an impact on it. But actually seeing it... You know, we're with you all the time and you see the... But seeing, like, the... In a documentary style, starting with the Mencia of it and getting to now.

   6. JRJoe Rogan29:57

      Mm-hmm.

   7. TPTom Papa29:58

      Man, that made me want to kiss you right on the lips. (laughs)

   8. JRJoe Rogan30:02

      (laughs) Is that a threat? He's threatening me now. Jesus, Jamie.

   9. TPTom Papa30:05

      Really, Joe.

   10. JRJoe Rogan30:06

       He's come here.

   11. TPTom Papa30:07

       It really is such a great thing-

   12. JRJoe Rogan30:08

       Oh.

   13. TPTom Papa30:08

       Because to have such a historic place that was so bright and great and then really decimated and fell on its ass...... and you're really the force that brought it back to this. Was like, oh, it was, it was just great. It was so great. And watching your story was really, really cool.

   14. JRJoe Rogan30:25

       Oh, thanks, man.

   15. TPTom Papa30:26

       Yeah.

   16. JRJoe Rogan30:26

       It was, it was heavy. It was weird to make. I cried a bunch of times thinking about Mitzi.

   17. TPTom Papa30:30

       Yeah.

   18. JRJoe Rogan30:31

       You know?

   19. TPTom Papa30:31

       Yeah, man.

   20. JRJoe Rogan30:32

       Thinking about the old days, about what it was like to come there.

   21. TPTom Papa30:35

       Yeah.

   22. JRJoe Rogan30:35

       You know, just to, to be a paid regular there. It's, uh, you know, it's such a polarizing place. So many people have a, a negative impression of it-

   23. TPTom Papa30:43

       Mm-hmm.

   24. JRJoe Rogan30:43

       ... because it's such a difficult club and there's so many killers there, and a lot of people just didn't feel like they got the respect that they deserved there. But it, it's, it's not the case. You just, it's, you needed a higher level.

   25. TPTom Papa30:54

       It's hard. It's-

   26. JRJoe Rogan30:56

       You, you, you're going up, you're on a lineup with 15 murderers-

   27. TPTom Papa31:00

       Yeah.

   28. JRJoe Rogan31:00

       ... and everyone's killing in front of you.

   29. TPTom Papa31:01

       (laughs)

   30. JRJoe Rogan31:01

       And there's a lot of people that would go there and they would have, like, sort of mediocre sets, and they would be upset 'cause they had a career. Like, they'd be on television shows.
8. 37:58 – 48:44

   Comedy community changes: podcasts, less gatekeeping, and the end of ‘famine mentality’

   1. JRJoe Rogan37:58

      And I- I think- I- I attribute that to the internet and I attribute that to podcasts, because I felt like it was a time of bounty.

   2. TPTom Papa38:05

      Mm-hmm.

   3. JRJoe Rogan38:05

      There wa- it wasn't a time of famine. And in the past, it was everyone had this famine mentality.

   4. TPTom Papa38:11

      Yeah.

   5. JRJoe Rogan38:11

      Because, like, if you got a sitcom and I was trying out for the same part, I felt like you took something from you, like-

   6. TPTom Papa38:17

      Right.

   7. JRJoe Rogan38:17

      ... "Fuck, there's only one part in a sitcom and Tom got it." Or if you were trying out for a game show or you're trying out for a talk show-

   8. TPTom Papa38:24

      Yeah.

   9. JRJoe Rogan38:24

      ... and there's, you know, five of us are out for it and one of us gets it, so there's this weird creepy competitiveness.

   10. TPTom Papa38:29

       Right.

   11. JRJoe Rogan38:30

       And if you were on a morning radio show and then there was a guy who's across town that was on the radio the same time, you weren't his buddy.

   12. TPTom Papa38:37

       Right.

   13. JRJoe Rogan38:37

       Like, we're friends-

   14. TPTom Papa38:38

       Right.

   15. JRJoe Rogan38:39

       ... and we also have podcasts.

   16. TPTom Papa38:40

       Right.

   17. JRJoe Rogan38:40

       And I tell people, "Listen to Tom Papa's podcast."

   18. TPTom Papa38:43

       Right.

   19. JRJoe Rogan38:43

       "Listen to Tom Papa's radio show."

   20. TPTom Papa38:45

       Right.

   21. JRJoe Rogan38:45

       "Listen to Fortune Femston and Tom Papa on the- on Sirius."

   22. TPTom Papa38:48

       Yeah.

   23. JRJoe Rogan38:49

       "They're- they're both great."

   24. TPTom Papa38:50

       There's a camaraderie.

   25. JRJoe Rogan38:50

       There's a different thing now.

   26. TPTom Papa38:52

       It's very true.

   27. JRJoe Rogan38:52

       Like, we support each other.

   28. TPTom Papa38:54

       Yeah.

   29. JRJoe Rogan38:54

       Like, I don't think of you and Fortune as being competitors. I think of you as being my friends.

   30. TPTom Papa38:57

       Oh, you should.
9. 48:44 – 59:19

   Sitcom era war stories: pilots, development deals, NewsRadio, and creative control

   1. JRJoe Rogan48:44

      Or even Newsradio, like-

   2. TPTom Papa48:46

      Yeah.

   3. JRJoe Rogan48:46

      ... that was a, that was a great show to kinda check your ego, because I was only one of eight people. And the other people, especially Phil Hartman and Dave Foley, were much more famous than me.

   4. TPTom Papa48:56

      Sure.

   5. JRJoe Rogan48:56

      And much more talented.

   6. TPTom Papa48:58

      Right.

   7. JRJoe Rogan48:58

      And it was like, it was in a... It was like I had an opportunity to do, like, an apprenticeship. Like, I had an opportunity to learn what it's like to act. I had, I'd never taken... I took a few acting classes-

   8. TPTom Papa49:09

      Right.

   9. JRJoe Rogan49:09

      ... private lessons, when I had gotten a development deal, but I'd never acted.

   10. TPTom Papa49:13

       Right. (laughs)

   11. JRJoe Rogan49:14

       And then, all of a sudden, a couple of months later, I'm on TV. Like, literally.

   12. TPTom Papa49:18

       Geez.

   13. JRJoe Rogan49:18

       Very little preparation, and I'm sitting there next to Phil Hartman-

   14. TPTom Papa49:22

       (laughs) It's so crazy.

   15. JRJoe Rogan49:23

       ... on a TV show, that if you watch those old Newsradios, it looks like it.

   16. TPTom Papa49:27

       (laughs)

   17. JRJoe Rogan49:27

       Like-

   18. TPTom Papa49:27

       (laughs)

   19. JRJoe Rogan49:27

       ... because my character had to be kind of, like, kinda innocent and stupid-

   20. TPTom Papa49:33

       Yeah.

   21. JRJoe Rogan49:33

       ... and, uh, and, and I was, like, really into conspiracies, which they made-

   22. TPTom Papa49:36

       (laughs) That's so funny.

   23. JRJoe Rogan49:37

       ... because of me-

   24. TPTom Papa49:37

       Yeah.

   25. JRJoe Rogan49:37

       ... 'cause I really was really into conspiracies. They kinda turned my character that way. But while I was there, I was kinda like, "Huh, is this really happening?" Like, even while I was doing it, I was like-

   26. TPTom Papa49:45

       Well, that's what's wild about it is, a lot of moments in this career-

   27. JRJoe Rogan49:49

       Look at me. I'm so cute.

   28. TPTom Papa49:50

       Oh, adorable.

   29. JRJoe Rogan49:51

       Fresh-faced 27-year-old.

   30. TPTom Papa49:52

       Looking back, 27?
10. 59:19 – 1:09:18

    ‘The Social Dilemma’ and algorithmic polarization: outrage, bubbles, and search manipulation

    1. JRJoe Rogan59:19

       Oh, but you know what I did wanna talk to you about?

    2. TPTom Papa59:21

       Yeah.

    3. JRJoe Rogan59:21

       I watched The Social Dilemma.

    4. TPTom Papa59:23

       Oh, geez.

    5. JRJoe Rogan59:25

       Dude.

    6. TPTom Papa59:27

       You know-

    7. JRJoe Rogan59:28

       That's a must-see, kids.

    8. TPTom Papa59:30

       I heard it's depressing.

    9. JRJoe Rogan59:31

       Oh, so is real life.

    10. TPTom Papa59:32

        Because it's so real.

    11. JRJoe Rogan59:33

        Real life's depressing, Tom.

    12. TPTom Papa59:35

        (laughs)

    13. JRJoe Rogan59:35

        What's the use? Everything's gonna be fine. Wear a mask. I live in communist Russia.

    14. TPTom Papa59:40

        (laughs)

    15. JRJoe Rogan59:40

        Wear a mask. Trust me. Gavin Newsom's penis tastes delicious. We're all gonna be fine.

    16. TPTom Papa59:46

        (laughs)

    17. JRJoe Rogan59:48

        (laughs)

    18. TPTom Papa59:48

        We are gonna be fine. You think we exist on this plane and this plane only?

    19. JRJoe Rogan59:52

        Ooh, that's heavy. No. No, because I've done a lot of drugs. I think there's probably something else.

    20. TPTom Papa59:56

        You've seen.

    21. JRJoe Rogan59:57

        I think there's something-

    22. TPTom Papa59:58

        You know.

    23. JRJoe Rogan59:58

        ... I think there's something else out there, but just inaccessible right now.

    24. TPTom Papa1:00:01

        Yeah.

    25. JRJoe Rogan1:00:01

        But this Social Dilemma makes me very concerned about the future. Because all of these technologists and all of these people that have invented all this stuff that now are very unhappy-

    26. TPTom Papa1:00:13

        Yeah.

    27. JRJoe Rogan1:00:14

        ... it's really fascinating-

    28. TPTom Papa1:00:15

        And they're not-

    29. JRJoe Rogan1:00:15

        ... to see them discussing their own creations and then see outsiders who are also technologists who didn't, didn't invent these things, but are seeing the patterns in these things and understand it from, you know, a- a- a really educated perspective. They're- they're saying this could lead to civil war. Like, people are getting more and more divided. And it shows in the film how social media has made people far more polarized, far more divided than ever before. The- the red and the blue and then this and-

    30. TPTom Papa1:00:41

        Sure.

Episode duration: 3:00:58