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Joe Rogan Experience #1550 - Wesley Hunt

Wesley Hunt is a candidate for Texas's 7th Congressional District. A Republican, he is running against Democratic incumbent Lizzie Fletcher. Hunt is a veteran of the Iraq war and former AH-64D Apache Longbow helicopter pilot. When he's not busy with his family or work, Hunt volunteers his time as a youth mentor and serves on the board of trustees for the Harris County Center for Mental Health.

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Oct 15, 20202h 29mWatch on YouTube ↗

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  1. 0:000:35

    Welcome & why veterans in Congress resonate

    1. NA

      (drumbeats) Joe Rogan podcast, check it out. The Joe Rogan Experience.

    2. JR

      Train by day, Joe Rogan podcast by night, all day. (instrumental music plays) Mr. Hunt, welcome aboard.

    3. WH

      Happy to be here.

    4. JR

      Thanks for having- uh, thanks for being here. I really appreciate it. Friend of Dan Crenshaw's.

    5. WH

      That's right.

    6. JR

      He's a friend of mine.

    7. WH

      That's right.

    8. JR

      All of them. So, um, Congress.

    9. WH

      Yeah.

    10. JR

      Running for Congress.

    11. WH

      Yeah.

    12. JR

      This is what I want my congressmen to look like, jacked veterans.

    13. WH

      (laughs)

    14. JR

      I mean, that's... Wouldn't it be- the world be a better place?

    15. WH

      I agree. I think so.

    16. JR

      I mean, it really would be.

    17. WH

      Yeah.

  2. 0:353:39

    Hunt’s military-family legacy and the decision to run for Congress

    1. JR

      Um, so tell me what this has been like running for Congress. Was... Is this the first office you've run for?

    2. WH

      This is the first time, thank God.

    3. JR

      What- what started this? I know you're friends with Dan, who's also a congressman. What started this, this journey?

    4. WH

      Yes. Great question, and thank you so much for having me on.

    5. JR

      My pleasure.

    6. WH

      This is- this is awesome. Really appreciate you. And what started this was really just my family and how can we continue service in just in a different capacity. Uh, I come from a military family, so, uh, my dad did 23 years in the Army, retired as a lieutenant colonel. Uh, my sister went to West Point in my family first, so she's 10 years older than me, did 23 years active duty. She was a military intelligence officer, uh, deployed to Iraq twice and s- did a few tours, abroad as well. Uh, I went to West Point in my family second. Uh, we're- we're 10 years apart, my sister and I, and then graduated West Point class of 2004. Uh, flew Apaches, uh, in Iraq for eight- for- for- was actually active duty eight years, deployed to Iraq, did 55 combat air missions in Baghdad, and then did two tours of duty in Saudi Arabia as a diplomatic liaison officer. My brother, who is 10 months and eight days my junior, so we're Irish twins, uh, he also went to West Point, and he did five years in the Navy and went to Harvard Business School for his graduate degree and now lives in Houston with his family. There's about 60 years worth of military service just in my immediate family.

    7. JR

      Wow. Respect.

    8. WH

      Thank you, sir.

    9. JR

      That's a lot.

    10. WH

      Thank you.

    11. JR

      That's serious... (laughs) That's a serious-

    12. WH

      Thank you.

    13. JR

      ... serious military family.

    14. WH

      It is. My mom's the best of us, so she stood at home for two months in 2006 while I was flying combat air missions in Baghdad, my sister was doing intel in the Green Zone, and my brother was in the Arabian Gulf on a destroyer for two months at the same time. So even though she didn't serve in the military per se, she served those who served by lending her family. So when people ask me why am I running for Congress, I always lead with that, because that's the kind of service and sacrifice it takes for us to live in this free country.

    15. JR

      So this is just, uh, a mindset that you, you were raised with?

    16. WH

      Absolutely.

    17. JR

      Um, and what made you... What made you make the leap?

    18. WH

      (sighs) So there's a lot of things going on in the country that we're seeing right now.

    19. JR

      Really?

    20. WH

      (laughs)

    21. JR

      I thought everything was fine.

    22. WH

      (laughs) Few things we got going on in the country right now.

    23. JR

      It's not crazy?

    24. WH

      And my dad always taught us leadership is not about when it's convenient for you. It's about when your country needs you.

    25. JR

      Mm-hmm.

    26. WH

      And our country needs us, I think, in this- in this, what seems to be a dark time. We've had some dark times in the past. I'm sure we'll get into that. But us- it's always my opinion that patriots always step up when our country needs us the most, and that's kinda what we're taught to do, to give back to the country that gave us all that we have.

    27. JR

      Now outta all the things that are going on in the country right now-

    28. WH

      Yeah.

    29. JR

      ... um, what- what stands out to you as something that you feel like you can contribute, uh, and possibly help correct or-

    30. WH

      Yeah.

  3. 3:3911:11

    Racial progress, policing, and rejecting “defund the police”

    1. WH

      Yeah. So there's a lot of talk of a lot of, you know, racial injustices of the past, and this is something that I think I'm uniquely positioned to talk about. Uh, my great-great-grandfather was a slave. His name was Silas Crawford, born on Rosedown Plantation, uh, just north of Baton Rouge, Louisiana. Three of his great-great-grandchildren all attended West Point. Uh, I earned three master's degrees from Cornell University, brother went to Harvard, uh, sister has her advanced degree in applied mathematics. We've had the honor of serving our country. We've had the honor to live in a free country. We are standing on the backs and on the shoulders of absolute giants. And while we have a ways to go, by God, that's some serious progress. And I like the idea of focusing on the future and not the past. And I think as a Black man in this country, I get some of the hardships. Trust me on that. But how can we begin to heal by focusing on the good that we have done and building on that instead of standing by idling and- and watching the country burn?

    2. JR

      Well, it seems like both things have to be addressed. It seems like you have to concentrate on the good things-

    3. WH

      Yeah.

    4. JR

      ... and have to concentrate on the people like yourself that have made incredible progress in your life.

    5. WH

      Yeah.

    6. JR

      But I think we also have to concentrate on injustice.

    7. WH

      Absolutely.

    8. JR

      And racial bias and racial injustice and all the problems that we're seeing. You know, I was ex-... We... I was having a conversation with a friend of mine. We were talking about police and how- how important the police are, but also how important it is to... If you see something like, uh, like a- the George Floyd situation.

    9. WH

      Absolutely.

    10. JR

      You see that video, and then that one guy's horrible actions changes everyone's perception of the police.

    11. WH

      Yeah. Yeah.

    12. JR

      But meanwhile, there's millions of interactions that police have with citizens that never go that way, that are positive.

    13. WH

      That's true.

    14. JR

      There's millions of great cops. I don't know how many... I don't know if there's millions of cops.

    15. WH

      Yeah.

    16. JR

      I don't even know how many cops there are. How many cops are there in the country?

    17. WH

      Oh, that's a good question.

    18. JR

      That is a good question. How many police officers are there in the country? Let's find out. But either way, most of 'em, I feel... Well, first of all, it's an insanely difficult job.

    19. WH

      Yes, it is.

    20. JR

      And when you... You don't... The- the good altercations, they don't go viral.

    21. WH

      Of course they don't.

    22. JR

      You know? So we have this distorted perception of what happens when cops meet people.... here it goes. In 2019, there's 697,195 full-time law enforcement officers.

    23. WH

      Wow.

    24. JR

      697,000.

    25. WH

      Wow.

    26. JR

      Wow. Okay. So it's not millions.

    27. WH

      But I would say that there, that you're right, there are actually millions of interactions-

    28. JR

      Yes.

    29. WH

      ... with our citizens every year.

    30. JR

      I'm sure. Yes. Millions.

  4. 11:1115:21

    Breonna Taylor, no-knock raids, and the war on drugs as a root cause

    1. JR

      And, you know, I don't know... Y- first of all, that Breonna Taylor situation, tragic, horrific.

    2. WH

      And complicated.

    3. JR

      Complicated. Here's the, here's the big problem: the war on drugs. That's the big problem.

    4. WH

      (laughs)

    5. JR

      The big problem is you're having these no-knock raids for... I mean, what was he supposed to be selling, marijuana?

    6. WH

      Right.

    7. JR

      I think he was selling marijuana? That was th- the idea, that he was sell-... I don't even know if he was, but this was... The, so you're, you're breaking down a door of someone's? Is that what it was about?

    8. WH

      I think so. I believe so.

    9. JR

      Which is fucking insane.

    10. WH

      Yeah.

    11. JR

      Right? Insane.

    12. WH

      Yeah.

    13. JR

      That's insane, period. That-

    14. WH

      To break down doors for that. I agree.

    15. JR

      Insane. This is how it all st-... I mean, when you have no-knock raids-

    16. WH

      Yeah.

    17. JR

      ... and, you know, if you're a person who's a homeowner and you believe in the Second Amendment and you have a firearm and you hear someone kicking down your door, you have a right to defend yourself.

    18. WH

      That's right.

    19. JR

      So this guy shooting at the cops is a rational response to something... He has no idea what's going on-

    20. WH

      Yeah.

    21. JR

      ... assumedly. And if someone says-... "open up, it's the cops," and kicks on the door, and it turns out to not be a cop, turns out to be a rival drug dealer or w- uh, just a thief.

    22. WH

      Right. Is that what the investigation revealed? W- what, was it really, they really didn't knock at all? 'Cause I've-

    23. JR

      I don't believe they did.

    24. WH

      ... I've heard, I've seen both. I've heard that they, that there was a knock, that certain neighbors did hear.

    25. JR

      Mm-hmm.

    26. WH

      And then I've heard that it was or no knock.

    27. JR

      I, I don't know what they did or didn't, but here's the problem. If you're a person that is alone in your home at night and someone says they're police, how the fuck do you know it's really the police?

    28. WH

      That's true too.

    29. JR

      How do you know?

    30. WH

      That's true too.

  5. 15:2123:44

    COVID, Trump’s recovery, and risk stratification by health

    1. JR

      He went on a, a great tweet raid the other night after they juiced him up with steroids and let him out of the hospital.

    2. WH

      (laughs)

    3. JR

      It was fuck-

    4. WH

      I get all of them. It's funny.

    5. JR

      ... made me laugh.

    6. WH

      It was funny.

    7. JR

      I love the v- the video he's like, "Maybe I'm immune. I don't know."

    8. WH

      I don't know. He's just- (laughs)

    9. JR

      "Maybe I'm immune." (laughs)

    10. WH

      (laughs)

    11. JR

      "Maybe!" Shit.

    12. WH

      But I laughed. I laughed when he was like, "I've, this is the best I've felt in 20 years." I was like, "This guy." (laughs)

    13. JR

      He's a savage.

    14. WH

      Yeah.

    15. JR

      74, fat, and eats f- nothing but McDonald fries.

    16. WH

      And he beat it.

    17. JR

      Kicks COVID in a couple of days, and people are like, "Yeah, but he's getting the right treatment." Like, "Blah blah blah blah blah blah."

    18. WH

      Yeah.

    19. JR

      But the treatment's available. D- can everybody get this treatment? Is it, is this treatment in a fucking gold mine in India somewhere and you have to, you know-

    20. WH

      It's not.

    21. JR

      ... send a guy on a llama down into a cave to get it? No.

    22. WH

      No.

    23. JR

      It seems like it's pretty common.

    24. WH

      It's not. And as somebody, and I've, you know, we were talking about it earlier. I had COVID.

    25. JR

      You've had it.

    26. WH

      Yeah.

    27. JR

      But-

    28. WH

      My whole family had it.

    29. JR

      But you had it (snaps fingers) like that.

    30. WH

      That's right.

  6. 23:4428:30

    Fitness, mental health, and why shutting gyms backfires

    1. JR

      Yeah, th- what they should do is put these big... We got that, uh, air filter down there on the ground-

    2. WH

      Yeah.

    3. JR

      ... that's supposed to filter out all the b- bad whatever. (laughs)

    4. WH

      (laughs)

    5. JR

      We got... It's too loud. We got... The problem is too loud, what we're f- is it on?

    6. NA

      It's on right now.

    7. JR

      It's on very low. It's on very low. But when we crank it up to, like, full blast, it sounds like there's a fucking airplane in the room, so.

    8. WH

      Yeah.

    9. JR

      But you could have those at the gym. You know, you could have those all over the place, at the gym. They're not that expensive.

    10. WH

      Yeah.

    11. JR

      And to keep people outside of the gym, you are now compounding all those other things.

    12. WH

      That's right.

    13. JR

      You're, you're giving people, uh, you're taking away this avenue that they have to alleviate stress.

    14. WH

      Yes.

    15. JR

      Which for me is gigantic.

    16. WH

      Yes, it is.

    17. JR

      I'm a different human. I'm, I'm two different people.

    18. WH

      Yes.

    19. JR

      I'm the guy who doesn't work out and the guy who works out. And you wanna hang out with the guy who works out-

    20. WH

      Works out-

    21. JR

      ... all the time. I'm, I'm super friendly, I hug everybody. The guy who doesn't work out is cranky, he, he's quick to judge things-

    22. WH

      That's right.

    23. JR

      ... quick to say, "Fuck that guy."

    24. WH

      That's right.

    25. JR

      Like, all that, all those... (laughs) You know what I mean?

    26. WH

      (laughs)

    27. JR

      Like, all those negative aspects-

    28. WH

      (laughs)

    29. JR

      ... it's, I don't like that. I don't wanna be that way, you know?

    30. WH

      Yeah.

  7. 28:3033:21

    What campaigning looks like during COVID: meet-and-greets, media, and outreach

    1. JR

      Now, what has the campaign trail been like? Like, what is, wha- j- in general, what do you have to do?

    2. WH

      Oh, goodness. Yeah, so with COVID, things have obviously changed the way that we do things dramatically.

    3. JR

      By the way, if everyone is noticing that both me and Wesley are sweating-

    4. WH

      (laughs)

    5. JR

      ... the fucking AC in this room has shit out on us, and it's now, it doesn't even say.

    6. NA

      Yeah, something just happened to it. I think.

    7. JR

      Yeah, the thermostat's broken. It's not even... It was 7, 78 degrees when we walked in here with all this equipment and then all this intense talking.

    8. WH

      See, here's the thing, but we've worked, well, we work out, so we can handle it.

    9. JR

      Yeah. Yes.

    10. WH

      So it's just a little sweat. We can do it.

    11. JR

      Yes.

    12. WH

      It's no problem.

    13. JR

      But I mean, if people are like, "What's going on?"

    14. WH

      Yeah. (laughs)

    15. JR

      "These guys have, they're having a fever."

    16. WH

      They're just sitting there, why are they sweating?

    17. JR

      (laughs)

    18. WH

      (laughs) They talk about working out when they're not doing anything.

    19. JR

      Yeah, they're sweating.

    20. WH

      (laughs)

    21. NA

      We should probably go open the door. I can open the door and get some air flowing.

    22. JR

      Nah, don't worry about it.

    23. WH

      No, you're good.

    24. NA

      All right.

    25. JR

      We're good.

    26. WH

      We're good.

    27. JR

      Um, so tell me about the campaign trail. Like, what, what does it entail and how long has i- have you been doing it? When I met you in Houston was what, July?

    28. WH

      That's right. That's right, with Dan.

    29. JR

      Yeah, met you with Dan Crenshaw-

    30. WH

      Yeah.

  8. 33:2145:04

    Houston energy, fossil fuels, and the Green New Deal critique

    1. WH

      And, you know, this is an oil and gas town. And I am not a climate denier. Um, like a lot of Millennials, quite frankly, I, I, I do believe that, that human beings can influence the climate. But, uh, Houston is known as the energy capital of the world. And encompassed in the energy capital of the world is the energy district of the world, which is Congressional District 7 where I am running in in Houston. And the narrative that I am seeing about fossil fuels doesn't necessarily jive well with me at all.

    2. JR

      Uh, let's talk about that.

    3. WH

      Yeah.

    4. JR

      I'd love to talk to you about that.

    5. WH

      Yeah.

    6. JR

      Um, California recently, the state that I escaped-

    7. WH

      I want t- I wanna ask you about that too-

    8. JR

      Yeah.

    9. WH

      ... after this actually.

    10. JR

      Escaped!

    11. WH

      (laughs)

    12. JR

      I feel so happy.

    13. WH

      Welco- welcome to Texas too, by the way.

    14. JR

      Thanks, sir. Appreciate it. Yeah, when I, when I saw you was, uh, (clears throat) right around the time that I made the decision.

    15. WH

      Yeah.

    16. JR

      Um, Tom Papa, my buddy who was just here yesterday, sent me a picture of, uh, Los Angeles. And obviously, this is because of the fires, but also, what the fuck is that?

    17. WH

      Come on.

    18. JR

      Look at that. Look at that. It's massive traffic and-

    19. WH

      Unbelievable.

    20. JR

      ... the sky is-

    21. WH

      Yeah.

    22. JR

      ... a weird shade of gray-

    23. WH

      Yep.

    24. JR

      ... because... And brown. And he said, "You've poisoned my LA mind-

    25. WH

      (laughs)

    26. JR

      ... with that picture." And I said, "You're in the wrong place, my brother."

    27. WH

      (laughs)

    28. JR

      Now you know. He's in the wrong place.

    29. WH

      He knows, he knows where to go.

    30. JR

      Listen, Texas, I've always loved Texas. I, I filmed, uh, an... I d- I filmed one of my specials here.

  9. 45:0453:09

    Nuclear power, innovation, and carbon capture as realistic pathways

    1. JR

      What about nuclear? Because-

    2. WH

      Yeah.

    3. JR

      ... one of the things that is really uncomfortable for people-

    4. WH

      (sighs)

    5. JR

      ... is that nuclear power is one of the cleanest sources of power that we know of. It's just, we know about disasters.

    6. WH

      That's right.

    7. JR

      We know about Fukushima. We know about Three Mile Island. We know about all the, uh, Chernobyl.

    8. WH

      Chernobyl, yeah.

    9. JR

      We know about these disasters, which, m- in many cases, are indicative of old technology.

    10. WH

      Yes.

    11. JR

      Like Fukushima, they just, they really didn't know how to shut it down.

    12. WH

      Yes.

    13. JR

      Which is fucking bananas that they decided to build it anyway.

    14. WH

      Mind-boggling. (laughs)

    15. JR

      (laughs) They're like, "We'll figure it out eventually."

    16. WH

      Like, "We'll- we'll worry about it later." (laughs)

    17. JR

      But they, there's, there's ways of doing nuclear right-

    18. WH

      Yeah.

    19. JR

      ... where you have very little environmental damage.

    20. WH

      That's right.

    21. JR

      But that's a, you just bring up nuclear power and everybody's like-

    22. WH

      Everybody freaks out.

    23. JR

      ... "We're gonna die!"

    24. WH

      That's right, everyone freaks out.

    25. JR

      Yeah.

    26. WH

      I- yeah, i- and they, they, they have Chernobyl.

    27. JR

      What do you think... What do you think about nuclear?

    28. WH

      So this is, this is, again, the importance of innovation. You brought up an excellent point. Y- you see, in past technologies, we didn't have the ability to be able to really create something without understanding what the worst outcomes could possibly be. Do you think, over the course of the last 50 years, we've actually advanced to know more and to be able to do better and to be more effective with how we, with how we do this? Of course we have. Right? But it kinda goes back to the oil and gas industry as well. When you have the over-demonization of an energy source, people just, as we were talking about, they just shut it off.

    29. JR

      Right.

    30. WH

      It becomes the headline, that's it. I don't want anything else to do with it. Oh, no, we saw bad incidences. That's it. It becomes headline news, instead of us saying, "W- wait a minute. If you're gonna try to tell me that 2020 was the same as the '70s and the '60s and the '50s from a technological standpoint, it's ridiculous."

  10. 53:091:00:40

    Biden/Kamala concerns and using history to discuss division

    1. WH

      No, he ... So, so first he said h- so first he said he did, and then he backed, walked that back ever so slightly and said, "Well, no, no, no. Not the Green New Deal in its entirety. Tenets of the Green New Deal."

    2. JR

      Did he describe which tenets?

    3. WH

      Translation to me is s- it's, it's the Green New Deal.

    4. JR

      Aren't you troubled by the fact that the Democrats have this gentleman running for president that seems ... At, at the very least, like, his better days are behind him?

    5. WH

      It got to the point for where, where at first, when I watched the Corn Pop video, have you seen that one?

    6. JR

      Yes.

    7. WH

      The Corn Pop one? I- it was, it was-

    8. JR

      What in the fuck is that video?

    9. WH

      It, it was the most bizarre thing I've ever, like, most bazz- bizarre things I've ever seen.

    10. JR

      Well, how about all the kids behind him talking?

    11. WH

      And, uh, it's just the-

    12. JR

      Like, they're not even paying attention to this guy.

    13. WH

      It was, it was the weirdest thing.

    14. JR

      (laughs)

    15. WH

      It was like, really, literally the weirdest thing I've ever seen. (laughs)

    16. JR

      (laughs)

    17. WH

      And I sent it to my brother, Rendon, 'cause my, he's my best friend. We talk like four times a day. I sent it to Rendon and he's just like, "Is this even real?"

    18. JR

      (laughs)

    19. WH

      (laughs) I was like, "Oh, my God."

    20. JR

      I got hairy legs.

    21. WH

      Yeah. Like-

    22. JR

      Like, there's so many of those.

    23. WH

      They just think they're blonde and it's-

    24. JR

      Yeah.

    25. WH

      ... it's, it's ... It was really weird. That was, that was back in December and I thought it was funny. And then now, I don't think it's very funny anymore, actually. And this is, this is, this is very dangerous, I think, for the country, and we need to be very careful, uh, with who we put forward. Um, there, there is a clear decline in Mr. Biden. I think we can all agree with that. I think we can all say that the reason why Kamala Harris was chosen was probably to make sure (laughs) that someone of a sounder mind-

    26. JR

      Yes.

    27. WH

      ... can actually run the country.

    28. JR

      Yeah.

    29. WH

      And, and, and we're seeing that.

    30. JR

      Young and healthy-

  11. 1:00:401:18:23

    Texas Reloaded video, ‘Turn Texas Blue,’ and migration from California

    1. WH

      But I love it too, because I think that's, that's kind of the American warrior ethos that's somewhere in all of us. They are just at the tip of the spear when it comes to exemplifying it. And that's why when Dan Crenshaw calls me up and then says, "Hey man, I got an idea for a video. You in?" And I was like, "Okay. Tell me more." He goes, "Well, first I'm gonna jump out of an airplane." And I was like, "Sign me up." (laughs) .

    2. JR

      (laughs) .

    3. WH

      Sign me up. (laughs) .

    4. JR

      That video's crazy.

    5. WH

      It's awesome.

    6. JR

      It's a great one. We should p- could we play it?

    7. WH

      Sure.

    8. JR

      You know the j- the video Jamie?

    9. NA

      (clears throat) Yeah. Um-

    10. WH

      Sure. Did Texas reload it?

    11. JR

      Jamie will find it. Ja- Jamie will fin- find it.

    12. NA

      Because can we play it is the thing, so would-

    13. JR

      I don't think we'll get in trouble.

    14. NA

      It's not about trouble, like, the, they have to be known, notified, I guess, that we're playing it, so-

    15. JR

      Oh, well, we'll let them know. (laughs) .

    16. WH

      (laughs) . It's my show.

    17. JR

      I mean, it's, uh, yeah, it's not gonna hurt.

    18. WH

      (laughs) .

    19. JR

      It's only gonna help.

    20. WH

      Oh, yeah.

    21. JR

      Um, so y-

    22. WH

      Well, I'm in it, so can I okay it?

    23. JR

      R- yeah, I think.

    24. NA

      Uh, it's whoever owns it, I think.

    25. WH

      Okay.

    26. JR

      Who owns- somebody own it? Does Dan own it?

    27. WH

      Do D- David or Daniel like this?

    28. JR

      Dan will let it go, for sure. Um, so anyway, k- keep, so keep going. So he tells you he's gonna jump out of an airplane.

    29. WH

      He's gonna jump out of an airplane and then, and then he's like, "Do you want to be in it?" And I'm- and my next question was, "So, so c- can I wear my flight suit?" (laughs) .

    30. NA

      It's lo- it's four minutes long, too. We can't play the whole thing.

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