The Joe Rogan ExperienceJoe Rogan Experience #1555 - Alex Jones & Tim Dillon
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- NANarrator
(drumming music) Joe Rogan podcast, check it out.
The Joe Rogan Experience.
- JRJoe Rogan
Train by day, Joe Rogan podcast by night. All day. (rock music) Young Jamie back in the fucking saddle. How you feeling?
- JVJamie Vernon
Very well, thank you.
- JRJoe Rogan
COVID-free four days in a row now.
- JVJamie Vernon
I've kicked it.
- JRJoe Rogan
Yeah. And now, uh, you still can't taste anything?
- JVJamie Vernon
Can't taste s- well, it's, it's-
- JRJoe Rogan
You like a battery?
- JVJamie Vernon
... starting to come back today. But yeah, like 5% taste. Yeah, it's gotta be... Pickle juice doesn't even taste like anything.
- JRJoe Rogan
Really?
- JVJamie Vernon
Yeah.
- JRJoe Rogan
It just tastes like water?
- JVJamie Vernon
Mm-hmm.
- JRJoe Rogan
Whoa.
- JVJamie Vernon
Very weird.
- JRJoe Rogan
But you don't have any residual symptoms? Nothing wrong?
- JVJamie Vernon
No, all good. Can breathe everything. Yeah.
- JRJoe Rogan
Good to see you back, buddy.
- JVJamie Vernon
O2, good.
- JRJoe Rogan
We're a little worried about you.
- JVJamie Vernon
Thanks.
- JRJoe Rogan
Just a little worried about you. Not worried about you. Alex Jones.
- AJAlex Jones
This is the most anticipated thing I ever did. I've probably had, no exaggeration, two or 3,000 people in the last year and a half ask me, "When are you going back on Joe Rogan?" And I'm always saying, "I don't know. I don't know." And then I learned you were moving here like three, four months ago. And now we're here, and this is, this is exciting. I don't get, uh, butterflies anymore, but I actually have them here, and this is, this is great. It's good to have butterflies after about 20 years. Didn't get it the last two times I was on, didn't get it when I interviewed Trump, didn't get it on a lot of things, but I've got butterflies here today.
- JRJoe Rogan
And Tim, motherfucking, Timmy.
- TDTim Dillon
Yeah, I'm just a kid in a candy store.
- JRJoe Rogan
Me too. (laughs)
- TDTim Dillon
Thank you. Thank you for making this dream come true.
- JRJoe Rogan
(laughs)
- TDTim Dillon
This is what I've always wanted to do, and we've made it happ-... This is my Make-A-Wish. I can die happy.
- 15:00 – 30:00
Michael Cohen. …
- AJAlex Jones
one that ended up going to jail, actually-
- JRJoe Rogan
Michael Cohen.
- AJAlex Jones
Michael Cohen was getting money from AT&T. Go ahead and pull it up.
- JRJoe Rogan
Okay.
- AJAlex Jones
I mean, I was just trying to give you a gestalt quick analysis.
- JRJoe Rogan
I understand. I, I... But I just want to... I, I've told you before, what you really need on your show is like a, a legit journalist who's right next to you with a laptop going, "Alex, hold on, hold on. Just slow down."
- GUGuest
But I think you're right about that because in-
- JRJoe Rogan
Because you get... But you get so much right-
- GUGuest
Yeah.
- JRJoe Rogan
... but when you get something wrong, that's what people jump with, "Look at this."
- AJAlex Jones
But what you gotta understand is-
- JRJoe Rogan
"AT&T confirms it paid Trump lawyer Michael Cohen's company."
- GUGuest
Yeah. No, I remember that.
- AJAlex Jones
But see, Joe-
- GUGuest
Yeah.
- AJAlex Jones
... th- th- they're always saying that I'm making stuff up.
- GUGuest
Right, right, right.
- AJAlex Jones
They're lying. Now, every once in a while, my memory used to be photographic, but from everything I've done, it's not as good as it used to be. It moves really quick, okay? So when I'm saying stuff, it's just d- data knowledge, okay? And then I can like, "Okay, yeah. Did I say that?" Yeah, it's real. Check it out. But I'm not trying to make stuff up 99% of the time.
- JRJoe Rogan
Here it is. Here it is. "AT&T confirmed Tuesday evening that paid President Trump's personal lawyer Michael Cohen in 2017 for," in quotes, "insights into understanding the new administration." (laughs) Insights. I love that. Um, so how much did they pay him? 200,000 bucks in four separate payments of 50 bucks in late 2017, early 2018. Interesting.
- AJAlex Jones
Yeah, but he got paid, I think the number was 10 million total-
- JRJoe Rogan
Mm.
- AJAlex Jones
... from a, uh, a handful of companies.
- JRJoe Rogan
But look how they did it.
- AJAlex Jones
And by the way, AT&T is-
- JRJoe Rogan
They did it shady. Look, Avenatti alleged that Essential Consultants, a shell company set up by Cohen before the election to pay Stormy Daniels was paid by several corporations, including AT&T. At the time, AT&T was seeking government approval for its acquisition of Time Warner, CNN's parent company.
- AJAlex Jones
It's a merger.
- GUGuest
Yeah.
- JRJoe Rogan
It's a dirty world.
- GUGuest
Yeah.
- AJAlex Jones
Yeah, but I'm telling you, AT&T is a sweetheart compared to Google and Facebook and Twitter and all these people. So I wasn't attacking them. I was giving an example of how everyone in his entourage becomes a, a lobbyist because he thinks, "I'll just cut lobbyists off." He's not taking any money. And, and... But then everyone around him becomes a lobbyist. That's what I'm saying.
- 30:00 – 45:00
Yes. Please do. …
- AJAlex Jones
from oil companies. I'm not, but can I please tell you what's going on?
- JRJoe Rogan
Yes. Please do.
- AJAlex Jones
You are a carbon-based life form. Let me show you what I came here with in my notes. I have right here in my notes, the carbon conspiracy, and that is specifically what I wanted to get into here with you in my notes, because this is everything.
- JRJoe Rogan
Are you a climate change denier?
- AJAlex Jones
Well, see- see, imagine. Imagine how that's how they use that term.
- JRJoe Rogan
Right.
- AJAlex Jones
"Are you a climate change denier?" It's like a 9/11 denier.
- JRJoe Rogan
Right.
- AJAlex Jones
"No, the Towers got blown up. Our government had prior warning and had been funding Al-Qaeda," and all that came out later in Senate reports, in the 28 pages.
- JRJoe Rogan
Let's not go there just now, because we're gonna go down a rabbit hole.
- AJAlex Jones
Well, that- that's true, but let's go to carbon.
- JRJoe Rogan
Yeah.
- AJAlex Jones
I- that- that, I agree with you there. Okay. What are you, what is- what is- what is- what is Joe Rogan made up out of?
- JRJoe Rogan
Carbon.
- AJAlex Jones
Okay.
- JRJoe Rogan
Carbon-based life form. We are literally stardust.
- AJAlex Jones
What are-
- JRJoe Rogan
That's the song, right?
- AJAlex Jones
Exactly. What are trees made out of?
- JRJoe Rogan
Um...... tree stuff?
- AJAlex Jones
Carbon.
- TDTim Dillon
Carbon.
- JRJoe Rogan
Yeah, b- carbon-based lifeforms. It's most of the things on the planet-
- AJAlex Jones
The whole planet. And so, th- this is the carbon cycle.
- JRJoe Rogan
Right.
- AJAlex Jones
This is in the mainline textbooks.
- JRJoe Rogan
I understand.
- AJAlex Jones
So, so, so just like they, they, they come out and assault reality now and say, "A little boy is biologically a girl." I don't care if he grows up and wants to be a- says he's a girl-
- JRJoe Rogan
Again, rabbit hole. Let's not go down this rabbit hole.
- AJAlex Jones
But I'm saying, it's not science. They go, "The science is settled, there's not two genders."
- 45:00 – 1:00:00
I don't know. What's…
- TDTim Dillon
there, there's certainly w- you know, w- we are contributing to manmade global warming. But also, what are you gonna do? What are we gonna do?
- JRJoe Rogan
I don't know. What's going on with them politically?
- TDTim Dillon
You know? I mean, that's another question. It's like, what are we gonna do?
- JRJoe Rogan
Why does his mic sound weird? Is it he's, he's hot? Is he on it? Or is it how I'm hearing it? I'm hearing like a breakup of his mic.
- AJAlex Jones
Sounds good to me.
- JRJoe Rogan
It does?
- TDTim Dillon
Sounds fine to me, yeah.
- JRJoe Rogan
That's weird. Okay, may- I'm sorry. It must be me.
- AJAlex Jones
Jamie's really low. You sound great. He sounds good.
- TDTim Dillon
Yeah.
- JRJoe Rogan
Okay.
- TDTim Dillon
What is the climate control? 'Cause that's very interesting. Like the idea of using climate-
- AJAlex Jones
No.
- TDTim Dillon
... to contr- because as you said with COVID, and we talked about this, we give up a lot of rights, right? In the name of coronavirus.
- AJAlex Jones
Exactly. What it, what it-
- TDTim Dillon
Yeah.
- AJAlex Jones
See, look, there's real issues. We don't really know what's going on. They wanna be able to track all carbon and tax it with a AI surveillance grid, with a social credit score over it.
- TDTim Dillon
Yeah.
- AJAlex Jones
And they admit all of that.
- TDTim Dillon
Yeah.
- AJAlex Jones
That's, Joe, they tell us what they're gonna do.
- JRJoe Rogan
Okay, I understand that, but you, do you understand that the environmentalists who are concerned are not the... There's a, a giant amount of them that are legitimately concerned that we're ruining the earth with ca-
- AJAlex Jones
Yes, I understand the greenhouse effect.
- JRJoe Rogan
... with fossil fuels.
- AJAlex Jones
I understand the greenhouse effect.
- JRJoe Rogan
But these people, the reason why they're acting, the reason why they're trying to get people on electric cars and trying to get people off of fossil fuels-
- TDTim Dillon
(laughs)
- JRJoe Rogan
Hold it, please. They're, they're legitimately concerned. Like, I don't believe that these actual environmentalists are in on some global conspiracy.
- AJAlex Jones
Sure, I agree with you, but I mean, here's the deal. The new Hummer looks, the new Hummer looks badass. Here's the deal.
- JRJoe Rogan
(laughs)
- 1:00:00 – 1:03:59
The right AI, yeah.…
- JRJoe Rogan
they'd get rid of AI?
- TDTim Dillon
The right AI, yeah.
- AJAlex Jones
They're making us obsolete. They're making us obsolete.
- TDTim Dillon
I just don't find-
- JRJoe Rogan
They're trying to get rid of the workers.
- AJAlex Jones
... dangerous, danger, danger.
- JRJoe Rogan
If I need a fucking cooler, I like to go to Walmart. Is that okay?
- TDTim Dillon
N- not... But once you have a robot, you won't wanna go to Walmart.
- JRJoe Rogan
Why?
- TDTim Dillon
Because it's, it's, it's dirty. It's filthy. Everyone's got COVID.
- JRJoe Rogan
No. I listen to music-
- AJAlex Jones
Yeah, that's why they're doing the COVID, is to post-human-
- JRJoe Rogan
... I get in my electric car-
- AJAlex Jones
You're nonessential under COVID. They... Listen, they want-
- JRJoe Rogan
Nonessential?
- AJAlex Jones
They wanna train you... Okay, listen. Look, look how calculators were great. No one knows how to do math now. Look how phones are great. No one knows their numbers anymore. All the statistics show that the science of technology is making us dumb. And that's why they wrote the big article, the co-owner of Sun Microsystems in 2000, Bill Joy wrote, "Why the Future Doesn't Need Us." And he explains, he went to a top billionaire tech conference, and they made the decision to not let humans sit around and play video games into the future, that they were just gonna slowly phase us out and kill everybody.
- JRJoe Rogan
(scoffs) Stop. They're not trying to kill anybody.
- AJAlex Jones
Okay. Pull up "Why the Future Doesn't Need Us."
- JRJoe Rogan
But why, but, but listen, why do you think they're trying to kill everybody?
- AJAlex Jones
But why wouldn't, why, why wouldn't they?
- JRJoe Rogan
(laughs)
- AJAlex Jones
But why wouldn't they?
- TDTim Dillon
Can we reverse engineer the question?
- JRJoe Rogan
I don't think-
- AJAlex Jones
Because we're called useless eaters.
- JRJoe Rogan
I, I don't... I don't think they're trying to kill people. I think they're trying to improve what a person is. What I think we're doing by integrating-
- AJAlex Jones
Oh, by chopping our son's balls off?
- JRJoe Rogan
Okay. Well, you're gonna go down another rabbit hole, you son of a bitch.
- AJAlex Jones
(laughs)
- JRJoe Rogan
By increasing our ability to access information and by becoming a sort of a symbiotic creature aligned with technology.
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