Joe Rogan Experience #1555 - Alex Jones & Tim Dillon

1. 0:02 – 1:23

   Studio catch-up: Jamie’s COVID recovery and the tone of the episode

   1. NANarrator0:02

      (drumming music) Joe Rogan podcast, check it out.

   2. The Joe Rogan Experience.

   3. JRJoe Rogan0:06

      Train by day, Joe Rogan podcast by night. All day. (rock music) Young Jamie back in the fucking saddle. How you feeling?

   4. JVJamie Vernon0:17

      Very well, thank you.

   5. JRJoe Rogan0:17

      COVID-free four days in a row now.

   6. JVJamie Vernon0:19

      I've kicked it.

   7. JRJoe Rogan0:20

      Yeah. And now, uh, you still can't taste anything?

   8. JVJamie Vernon0:23

      Can't taste s- well, it's, it's-

   9. JRJoe Rogan0:24

      You like a battery?

   10. JVJamie Vernon0:24

       ... starting to come back today. But yeah, like 5% taste. Yeah, it's gotta be... Pickle juice doesn't even taste like anything.

   11. JRJoe Rogan0:30

       Really?

   12. JVJamie Vernon0:30

       Yeah.

   13. JRJoe Rogan0:30

       It just tastes like water?

   14. JVJamie Vernon0:31

       Mm-hmm.

   15. JRJoe Rogan0:31

       Whoa.

   16. JVJamie Vernon0:32

       Very weird.

   17. JRJoe Rogan0:33

       But you don't have any residual symptoms? Nothing wrong?

   18. JVJamie Vernon0:35

       No, all good. Can breathe everything. Yeah.

   19. JRJoe Rogan0:37

       Good to see you back, buddy.

   20. JVJamie Vernon0:38

       O2, good.

   21. JRJoe Rogan0:38

       We're a little worried about you.

   22. JVJamie Vernon0:39

       Thanks.

   23. JRJoe Rogan0:39

       Just a little worried about you. Not worried about you. Alex Jones.

   24. AJAlex Jones0:45

       This is the most anticipated thing I ever did. I've probably had, no exaggeration, two or 3,000 people in the last year and a half ask me, "When are you going back on Joe Rogan?" And I'm always saying, "I don't know. I don't know." And then I learned you were moving here like three, four months ago. And now we're here, and this is, this is exciting. I don't get, uh, butterflies anymore, but I actually have them here, and this is, this is great. It's good to have butterflies after about 20 years. Didn't get it the last two times I was on, didn't get it when I interviewed Trump, didn't get it on a lot of things, but I've got butterflies here today.

   25. JRJoe Rogan1:11

       And Tim, motherfucking, Timmy.

   26. TDTim Dillon1:13

       Yeah, I'm just a kid in a candy store.

   27. JRJoe Rogan1:15

       Me too. (laughs)

   28. TDTim Dillon1:15

       Thank you. Thank you for making this dream come true.

   29. JRJoe Rogan1:17

       (laughs)

   30. TDTim Dillon1:18

       This is what I've always wanted to do, and we've made it happ-... This is my Make-A-Wish. I can die happy.
2. 1:23 – 3:30

   Maxwell family background and Epstein as an alleged intelligence-linked blackmail operation

   1. TDTim Dillon1:23

      Yeah, I got my Free-Jiz-Lane shirt because I believe all women.

   2. JRJoe Rogan1:26

      Is that how you say it?

   3. TDTim Dillon1:27

      It's... I think so, yeah.

   4. JRJoe Rogan1:29

      I thought it was-

   5. TDTim Dillon1:30

      Jizlane.

   6. JRJoe Rogan1:30

      ... Ghislaine. I thought it was-

   7. TDTim Dillon1:31

      It might be Ghislaine.

   8. AJAlex Jones1:31

      It's Ghislaine.

   9. JRJoe Rogan1:33

      (laughs)

   10. TDTim Dillon1:34

       Do you know?

   11. JVJamie Vernon1:34

       Don't look at me. No, I haven't...

   12. JRJoe Rogan1:35

       Ghislaine?

   13. AJAlex Jones1:36

       It's Ghislaine.

   14. JRJoe Rogan1:37

       Ghislaine? That's a ridiculous name.

   15. TDTim Dillon1:39

       Yeah.

   16. AJAlex Jones1:40

       Her father was a, uh, famous, uh, MI6 Mossad spy that reportedly used sex operatives to control people. He died being thrown off a yacht, uh, in the middle of the Atlantic Ocean. And, of course, she, uh, got caught in that farmhouse on the East Coast, and she was really the pimp over Epstein in a giant sex network ring over scientists that they were compromising, uh, so they could control not just government, but industry and science. And so, that was the master blackmail operation they were running.

   17. TDTim Dillon2:07

       And her sisters are big in tech. Like Isabel Maxwell, they... She has sisters that are in US tech companies, and I think two of her sisters, uh, were part of the creation of Magellan, which was that big search engine. Like-

   18. JRJoe Rogan2:19

       Really?

   19. TDTim Dillon2:19

       So yeah, they are a very powerful family, and they have all kinds of different operations.

   20. AJAlex Jones2:24

       Yeah, her dad was the biggest publisher in England and, and also the biggest owner of private TV stations in England. And, uh, when he died, it turned out he was a front basically for intelligence networks.

   21. JRJoe Rogan2:35

       Now, let me right off the bat say, you were telling me about Epstein and this island years ago. You were telling me long before anybody... Uh, w- I think you told me about him before his first arrest.

   22. AJAlex Jones2:50

       A long time ago, I talked about how they have these islands, they, they fly, they compromise children. But I learned all this from Ted Gunderson 20-plus years ago. He was in line to be the FBI director. He was the head of the FBI in Los Angeles. He was a very famous FB- uh, I agent. He even ran COINTELPRO, against the civil rights movement. He apologized for that before he died, uh, in, uh, 2011. But he came out, and he was the one that explained to me about how they used these, these blackmail rings, elements of the CIA, uh, and, and foreign intelligence groups, and, and how they would basically make people have sex with children to be part of these clubs and these cults they were setting up.

   23. JRJoe Rogan3:28

       So, when you-

   24. AJAlex Jones3:28

       And so, so I knew about all this from Ted Gunderson.

3. 3:30 – 6:37

   Borat, Giuliani “setup,” and the limits of edited narratives

   1. JRJoe Rogan3:30

      Were they young girls that... Did they tell them these girls were underage, or did they look like they were older? Like, l- like, this, uh, the Borat movie, where they, uh, supposedly got-

   2. AJAlex Jones3:41

      Giuliani. Trying to set Giuliani up.

   3. JVJamie Vernon3:41

      Yeah.

   4. JRJoe Rogan3:42

      If you haven't seen it, it's very disappointing, 'cause-

   5. AJAlex Jones3:44

      They set him up. I saw it, yeah.

   6. JRJoe Rogan3:45

      They did set him up, but nothing happened. They made it look like Giuliani was jerking off in front of this girl.

   7. AJAlex Jones3:51

      He was taking his mic off.

   8. JRJoe Rogan3:52

      Which he would have to be the biggest savage on Earth-

   9. AJAlex Jones3:55

      To do that.

   10. JVJamie Vernon3:55

       Yeah.

   11. JRJoe Rogan3:55

       ... to jerk off in that situation.

   12. JVJamie Vernon3:56

       Right.

   13. JRJoe Rogan3:57

       And they also said that he inappropriately touched her back. When he touched her back, I am not exaggerating, it was like this.

   14. AJAlex Jones4:02

       Right.

   15. JRJoe Rogan4:03

       It was a couple of light taps on the back while she was close to him taking off his mic thing. He goes, "Oh, thank you very much, dear." And he goes, "Yes, I just need your name and your phone number." And then she takes off his mic, and then he leans back, and he's tucking his shirt back into his pants.

   16. AJAlex Jones4:18

       'Cause he just pulled the mic off.

   17. JRJoe Rogan4:19

       Right. But he's lying on the bed to do it.

   18. AJAlex Jones4:21

       Right.

   19. JRJoe Rogan4:21

       Now, if, if you're an old man, and I'm sure he's probably got a bad back-

   20. JVJamie Vernon4:25

       (laughs)

   21. JRJoe Rogan4:25

       ... like, that's probably how you would do it.

   22. AJAlex Jones4:27

       But any of us that have had to put the mics on our side, and then you put it in your pants up your shirt, and then you've got- it gets to be a... You've gotta get it out. That's what you do, but, but i- i- it's worse than that. Remember when he was playing the... Who was the gay character he played, like 10 years ago?

   23. TDTim Dillon4:41

       Bruno.

   24. AJAlex Jones4:41

       Bruno.

   25. TDTim Dillon4:42

       Yeah.

   26. AJAlex Jones4:42

       Remember Congressman Ron Paul at the time was... Had, had run for president. And he's in the hotel, and he goes, "Oh, the light broke. Please step into this room." So there's no chair. Ron Paul sits down, and he's reading the newspaper. And, uh, Bruno comes in and pulls his pants down and says, "I want to have sex with you." Now, that would be sexual assault if that was a man to a woman.

   27. JRJoe Rogan4:59

       Right.

   28. AJAlex Jones4:59

       Ron Paul pushes him out of the way and goes out of the room. And so this is what he does. He's done this to other people. It's his specialty, is to say you're being interviewed-

   29. JVJamie Vernon5:06

       And this... (laughs)

   30. AJAlex Jones5:07

       Yeah, here it is. (laughs)
4. 6:37 – 9:10

   Free speech vs deplatforming: why censorship escalates

   1. AJAlex Jones6:37

      But let me drop a bombshell on you, Joe.

   2. JRJoe Rogan6:38

      Okay. A- a bombshell?

   3. AJAlex Jones6:39

      No, no. I've, I've been a big fan of Sacha Baron Cohen until I learned he spoke at the ADL last year and called for my arrest for free speech, and he, he called for Jeff Zuckerberg's arrest, uh, or Mark Zuckerberg's arrest. So he called for my arrest and, and for Mark Zuckerberg's arrest for free speech.

   4. JRJoe Rogan6:59

      Hey, he wants to work in Hollywood.

   5. AJAlex Jones7:00

      Right.

   6. JRJoe Rogan7:00

      You gotta do what you gotta do-

   7. AJAlex Jones7:01

      No, but let's go further.

   8. JRJoe Rogan7:02

      ... to make those movie deals.

   9. AJAlex Jones7:02

      Well, no, I agree. But, I mean, he said arrest people for their free speech, and he supports internet censorship. So how does he make his money being this avant-garde, cutting-edge, really, uh, you know, over-the-edge comic that does things that could technically be seen as illegal? I support his free speech, and then he says I don't deserve it.

   10. JRJoe Rogan7:19

       Well, he's-

   11. AJAlex Jones7:19

       That's really dangerous.

   12. JRJoe Rogan7:20

       He's flawed, like many great artists.

   13. AJAlex Jones7:23

       Yeah.

   14. JRJoe Rogan7:23

       You know? I mean, I, I'm... Until they come for him, he's not gonna understand the slippery slope of censorship. And th- you know, this is another thing that, you know-

   15. AJAlex Jones7:31

       We're gonna get to it, yeah.

   16. JRJoe Rogan7:32

       ... people have, uh, p- people have criticized me for being friends with you and for talking to you, and they also criticize me for not supporting a lot of these people that got, uh, b- banned and deplatformed. My take on it has always been, the best way to counter wrong speech is correct speech.

   17. AJAlex Jones7:53

       Right.

   18. JRJoe Rogan7:53

       The p- when someone says something that's wrong or someone says a conspiracy theory that's not accurate, the best way to counter that is, is to, to do better speech, to, t- to have-

   19. AJAlex Jones8:02

       Yeah.

   20. JRJoe Rogan8:02

       ... people say the accurate information and to let the truth rise to the top. When you start censoring people, the problem is, it's a fucking slippery slope, and there's a reason why we've been so steadfast in supporting the First Amendment in this country. And people think it doesn't apply to tech, because these tech institutes are private businesses and they should be able to do whatever they want with their private business. The problem is, that fucking slippery slope has gone from censoring you, from banning Alex Jones off Twitter a year and a half ago, to getting the White House prec- press secretary banned off Twitter because she d- posted something from the New York Post, which is crazy.

   21. AJAlex Jones8:38

       Right.

   22. JRJoe Rogan8:38

       It's crazy.

   23. AJAlex Jones8:39

       Crazy.

   24. JRJoe Rogan8:39

       It's c- that's a 200-and-whatever-year-old newspaper.

   25. AJAlex Jones8:41

       America's oldest newspaper.

   26. JRJoe Rogan8:42

       And they, and what she said, the p- the post, what they, what they put, printed and put out there, is accurate.

   27. AJAlex Jones8:49

       Yeah.

   28. JRJoe Rogan8:49

       Well, let's go further. Let's go further. They're denying, uh, that, that it's a real story, but they don't ever say the emails are fake. They just say it's a smear. No, it's a real laptop. The videos have been released. It's confirmed. And, but just think about this. Well, it is a smear in that they're Tr- they're putting it out there. They're, they're timing it-

   29. AJAlex Jones9:06

       Sure, but they're not denying-

   30. JRJoe Rogan9:08

       ... to make-
5. 9:10 – 13:27

   Hunter Biden laptop: origin story, verification claims, and platform suppression

   1. AJAlex Jones9:10

      How did the laptop co- how did this laptop become this big story?

   2. JRJoe Rogan9:14

      That's where it gets tricky.

   3. AJAlex Jones9:15

      Yeah, I'm curious.

   4. JRJoe Rogan9:15

      Because supposedly, he dropped it off at a laptop-

   5. AJAlex Jones9:20

      In Delaware.

   6. JRJoe Rogan9:20

      ... repair shop in Delaware.

   7. AJAlex Jones9:22

      What an idiot.

   8. JRJoe Rogan9:23

      But also-

   9. AJAlex Jones9:23

      I mean, who's doing that?

   10. JRJoe Rogan9:24

       But also... Well, a crackhead.

   11. AJAlex Jones9:25

       Right. Right.

   12. JRJoe Rogan9:25

       The guy's doing-

   13. AJAlex Jones9:26

       Good point.

   14. JRJoe Rogan9:26

       The guy's smoking crack.

   15. AJAlex Jones9:27

       I keep forgetting he smokes crack.

   16. JRJoe Rogan9:28

       Yeah. Well, he did-

   17. AJAlex Jones9:29

       Yes.

   18. JRJoe Rogan9:29

       ... at the time.

   19. AJAlex Jones9:30

       Yes.

   20. JRJoe Rogan9:30

       Apparently he's kicked it, so congratulations to him. But the, the, the guy ha- had some problems.

   21. AJAlex Jones9:35

       Right.

   22. JRJoe Rogan9:35

       Now, this is self-admitted and, and also-

   23. AJAlex Jones9:37

       And they have the receipts and, and they... Here's the thing. He calls him dozens of times. The, the... 'Cause everybody knows when you bring a laptop or anything in, they say, "If you don't pay for this, we're gonna wipe it and sell it." And so three months goes by, six months goes by, nobody ever comes and gets it. The guy goes to w- look at it at the repair shop, the owner, and there's all these 25,000 files of what looks like underage girls and all the rest of this crazy stuff, and him smoking crack or god knows what. He gives it to the FBI. Wray does nothing, the director. Hides it from Trump. And so people, let's just say inside, that had copies of that, they leak it to Rudolph Giuliani, who then now has started to put it out. So instead of, instead of facing up to it, they just say, "Anyone promoting this, whether it's the House or Senate committees that were linking to it-"

   24. JRJoe Rogan10:19

       Right.

   25. AJAlex Jones10:19

       "... or the New York Post or the president's press secretary, you're now banned," which again shows it's, it's election meddling. It's, it's, it's gatekeeping to cover this up. And I'll tell you what else has come out now. His daughter, Biden's daughters, uh, l- uh, purportedly, reportedly, and they've not denied it now, this broke three days ago, left her diary in a house that she had rented. And the diary talks about all the same stuff and everything. (laughs)

   26. JRJoe Rogan10:45

       What the f-

   27. AJAlex Jones10:46

       That is so convenient.

   28. JRJoe Rogan10:46

       What the fuck is wrong with this family?

   29. AJAlex Jones10:47

       Well, he's gonna jump in. Hold on a second. Hold on. Hold on.

   30. JRJoe Rogan10:49

       Jamie?
6. 13:27 – 22:23

   Lobbying and influence peddling: Trump, entourages, and the AT&T/Cohen fact-check

   1. JRJoe Rogan13:27

      Is this standard shit? Is this just stan- how politics have always been done?

   2. AJAlex Jones13:31

      Yeah.

   3. JRJoe Rogan13:31

      It's just now we're seeing it?

   4. AJAlex Jones13:32

      Well, i- it was standard, let's say, 200 years ago that you'd go after the wife or the brother or, or somebody that works in the White House. It got organized the last a hundred years with lobbyists. Trump literally cut the lobbyist off, but all it did was now make everyone around him a lobbyist.

   5. GUGuest13:45

      Even having cut-

   6. AJAlex Jones13:45

      So now they're not officially a lobbyist, right.

   7. GUGuest13:46

      Right.

   8. JRJoe Rogan13:46

      How did he cut the lobbyists off?

   9. AJAlex Jones13:48

      He just stopped meeting with them and stopped a- and just said, "I want briefings on what's going on. I'll decide." So that's why he pissed official Washington off, not that he's even perfect, but that he actually became the president sort of making decisions himself instead of having consortiums and lobbyists pay him for policy. That's why he says, "Biden's raised more money than me. Of course, I can call up all these companies. They'll give me any money I, I want, but I gotta do what they say."

   10. JRJoe Rogan14:07

       But it would put him in a compromised position.

   11. AJAlex Jones14:09

       Yes, but I'm being honest about it. The vacuum and, and, and the, the, the blind spot is that then everyone around him in his cabinet and everyone that works there, even down to mid-level people, are now getting multimillion dollar contracts for companies like AT&T and stuff just to, just to, just to even mention something to the president.

   12. JRJoe Rogan14:27

       Now, well, hold on. Before you, you know, go any further, you said AT&T. Does it have been proven that it's AT&T or are you just saying AT&T-like companies, like large companies?

   13. AJAlex Jones14:35

       Uh, let's just say... I'm not saying AT&T is bad. I think AT&T is overall a good company.

   14. JRJoe Rogan14:38

       So, but is AT&T doing something bad?

   15. AJAlex Jones14:40

       No, I just... I was mentioning that as a Fortune 500 company.

   16. JRJoe Rogan14:44

       Okay, but it's not AT&T.

   17. AJAlex Jones14:45

       No, it's not AT&T.

   18. JRJoe Rogan14:46

       So we shouldn't say that. See, this is why you need someone that's like a fact checker right next to you.

   19. AJAlex Jones14:50

       Well, no, I... No. The, th-

   20. JRJoe Rogan14:51

       Going, "Slow down."

   21. AJAlex Jones14:52

       The media will say I'm wrong-

   22. JRJoe Rogan14:54

       Right.

   23. AJAlex Jones14:54

       ... about that, but okay.

   24. JRJoe Rogan14:56

       Okay, but, but it's-

   25. AJAlex Jones14:56

       Uh... No, no, hold on. His personal lawyer, his personal lawyer, the one that ended up going to jail, actually-

   26. JRJoe Rogan15:02

       Michael Cohen.

   27. AJAlex Jones15:02

       Michael Cohen was getting money from AT&T. Go ahead and pull it up.

   28. JRJoe Rogan15:05

       Okay.

   29. AJAlex Jones15:05

       I mean, I was just trying to give you a gestalt quick analysis.

   30. JRJoe Rogan15:08

       I understand. I, I... But I just want to... I, I've told you before, what you really need on your show is like a, a legit journalist who's right next to you with a laptop going, "Alex, hold on, hold on. Just slow down."
7. 22:23 – 25:28

   China, trade wars, and the claim of foreign influence over US institutions

   1. AJAlex Jones22:23

      It's bigger than big tech. It literally spends hundreds of billions of dollars buying us off. It owns Hollywood. It owns a lot of the big telecoms. It owns the majority of our debt. And I've got articles in the LA Times and New York Times I brought for you, where they say, "Xi Jinping must destroy Trump to save America. He is our leader." And then at the Davos group, he said three years ago, "I will destroy Trump. I will work with Hollywood." I've got all his quotes right here. And Xi Jinping said, "I want to overthrow American democracy. I want to repudiate it. I want to discredit it." And Xi Jinping admits he admires Adolf Hitler and Joseph Stalin.

   2. JRJoe Rogan22:56

      Okay, but isn't he doing that bec-

   3. TDTim Dillon22:58

      That's crazy.

   4. JRJoe Rogan22:58

      That seems crazy.

   5. TDTim Dillon22:59

      Yeah.

   6. AJAlex Jones22:59

      I'll... You can pull it up.

   7. JRJoe Rogan23:01

      I understand.

   8. AJAlex Jones23:01

      I'll show you.

   9. JRJoe Rogan23:02

      Step by step here.

   10. AJAlex Jones23:02

       Yep.

   11. TDTim Dillon23:03

       Yeah.

   12. JRJoe Rogan23:03

       Isn't he doing that because of Trump's trade deals? Like, the trade deals that Trump wants to do with China are not nearly...

   13. AJAlex Jones23:11

       Well, they're not one-sided f- for him.

   14. TDTim Dillon23:12

       Right.

   15. AJAlex Jones23:12

       I mean, here's what happened. Special interests in the US went in and opened up China, you know, in the '70s when most of them didn't have running water or electricity. They're hardworking, smart folks. But by one-sided trade deals where we, that we have higher tariffs on them than they own us and all the rest of it, or vice versa, through those deals, they use the slave labor of China to then take over manufacturing worldwide. And so China's a client state of the globalists. And so now, The Washington Post, the LA Times, the New York Times, I brought you the articles here. "Dreams of Red Emperor: The Relentless Rise of Xi Jinping." And it says in these articles, "He must destroy American Western Christian values. We love him and we accept China as our master." I, I have the goddamn articles.

   16. JRJoe Rogan23:53

       Right, but who's saying that?

   17. AJAlex Jones23:54

       This is treason. It's a freaking...

   18. JRJoe Rogan23:55

       Okay, but who's saying that?

   19. AJAlex Jones23:55

       Dude, right here.

   20. JRJoe Rogan23:56

       Who's saying that?

   21. AJAlex Jones23:56

       Washington Post, uh-

   22. JRJoe Rogan23:58

       But who's saying that quote? Who, who's that quote from?

   23. AJAlex Jones24:00

       Here, I'll give them to you. This is the Washington Post, and there's a huge article, LA Times.

   24. JRJoe Rogan24:04

       I understand, but the quote that you just said about, "He must destroy Trump."

   25. AJAlex Jones24:07

       Just like I said, "AT&T gave money to unofficially lobbying," and you pulled it up. I read the article. I'm not giving you an exact-

   26. JRJoe Rogan24:14

       I, I understand what you're saying. But what I'm, what I'm asking you is who... You quoted someone, but who did you quote when you said that?

   27. AJAlex Jones24:19

       I'm quoting from when I read these again this morning before I came here-

   28. JRJoe Rogan24:22

       Right.

   29. AJAlex Jones24:22

       ... what I remember. David Don Dury, Durlee.

   30. JRJoe Rogan24:27

       Oh, that guy.
8. 25:28 – 46:18

   Climate change debate: “clean coal,” CO2, and competing models (sun vs emissions)

   1. JRJoe Rogan25:28

      Are coal plants really clean?

   2. AJAlex Jones25:30

      100% clean.

   3. JRJoe Rogan25:31

      How is that possible?

   4. AJAlex Jones25:31

      I'll tell you.

   5. JRJoe Rogan25:32

      Please.

   6. AJAlex Jones25:32

      Okay, there's two different types of major power plants.

   7. JRJoe Rogan25:34

      When they say, when he says "clean coal," I roll my eyes every time. When Trump's like, "Clean coal, clean."

   8. AJAlex Jones25:39

      Well, that's because the engine-

   9. JRJoe Rogan25:40

      Amazing.

   10. AJAlex Jones25:40

       ... is so damn good.

   11. JRJoe Rogan25:42

       Is it?

   12. AJAlex Jones25:42

       I'll tell you.

   13. JRJoe Rogan25:43

       Please.

   14. AJAlex Jones25:45

       They had old-fashioned coal plants. China doesn't have one scrubber or filter on their coal power plants and China doesn't have clean-burning coal. There's one place in the United States that has major deposits of coal that is such pure carbon, you don't even need scrubbers. Nothing comes out but carbon dioxide and water. Well, they know we know water's not bad, so they list carbon dioxide, people think it's monoxide, just like in studies if you say the scientific name of water, most people in Penn & Teller skits on the street will say, "Ban dihydrogen monoxide." If you go out on the street, Joe Rogan, and ask 100 Austinites, d- dihydrogen monoxide is everywhere, if you get too much of it you can die, drowned, and most people will say, "I want a banned dihydrogen monoxide." That's the scientific name of water. Same thing if you do the scientific name of salt. Sounds scary. Well, h- uh, so- so hydrogen monoxide is the bad one. Hydrogen dioxide is the good one. That's the life cycle. On Earth there's- there's light, there's water, there's oxygen, and there's carbon dioxide. Those are the four things you gotta have for- f- for life. And so they've gotten people convinced to say coal is dirty, it puts out carbon dioxide and water vapor. And so until about the '70s, we were still burning dirty coal full of mercury, all of it, but they found huge deposits of clean-burning coal out West. Enough in Utah to run the whole world for over 1,000 years.

   15. JRJoe Rogan27:04

       Well, what's the difference between the coal? Like wh-

   16. AJAlex Jones27:06

       Well, let me tell you, let me tell you.

   17. JRJoe Rogan27:07

       Okay, please.

   18. AJAlex Jones27:07

       One coal is so damn pure and it's only in the United States in major deposits that basically you don't even need to put scrubbers on it. But our scientists in the '40s, '50s, '60s, and '70s, because they realized that dirty coal has mercury in it, has all these horrible toxins, they put scrubbers on it. So when you drive by a coal plant, it's this big, huge buildings and wires and- and- and- and- and hoses and big, huge, steel... Looks like an alien spaceship. That's because it's called distillates. They know how to burn it and then take off all the chemicals, all the toxins, and make plastics, and make chemicals, and make pesticides, and make everything else that comes out of that. And then out of the stack c- comes nothing but wa- they have sensors on it, nothing but water and carbon dioxide. Totally clean, totally pure. So- so that's what's going on-

   19. JRJoe Rogan27:47

       So, carbon monoxide is what everybody's worried about? Carbon dioxide increasing in the environment has no negative effects?

   20. AJAlex Jones27:55

       Let's talk about it.

   21. JRJoe Rogan27:56

       Please.

   22. AJAlex Jones27:56

       They've done, they've done ice core samples, okay, all over the Antarctic and the Arctic, they've done mud core samples, uh, in- in, uh, all over the world, but m- m- mainly in Siberia and- and Wales for some reason.

   23. JRJoe Rogan28:07

       Jamie, I hope you're Googling.

   24. AJAlex Jones28:08

       I am. I haven't, got some decent stuff to pull up but he's-

   25. JRJoe Rogan28:11

       Go ahead, yeah.

   26. AJAlex Jones28:11

       ... better at right now. S- so- so- so what happens is, they- th- they can go back 20,000, 100,000, 200,000 years, at least in the ice, and they know that, they've all done spectrometers in the stone, they can scan it till it was there. Carbon dioxide was over 500 times stronger, uh, in the time of the T-Rex. Okay?

   27. JRJoe Rogan28:32

       Right.

   28. AJAlex Jones28:32

       In the J- in the Jurassic age. That's why plants grew so fast, things were so big. There was a higher oxygen level. Just like Mars lost its atmosphere, used to have an ocean, they've now gone and proven. It lost its atmosphere as a smaller planet, couldn't hold it. Truth is, the Earth's losing its atmosphere. So what's crazy is, we come right along at this time, pump up all of this juice and all this carbon that was produced on the surface with plants and animals that ran down in cracks into the Earth. We're now pumping out all that carbon saved from millions of years ago and actually terraforming the planet, putting more carbon dioxide in than we actually need right at this time, like aliens figured this out or something.

   29. JRJoe Rogan29:05

       Okay, but hold- hold please.

   30. AJAlex Jones29:06

       Yeah?
9. 46:18 – 54:24

   Energy policy tangent: electric cars, transmission losses, and nuclear power leaks

   1. AJAlex Jones46:18

      Sure, I agree with you, but I mean, here's the deal. The new Hummer looks, the new Hummer looks badass. Here's the deal.

   2. JRJoe Rogan46:23

      (laughs)

   3. TDTim Dillon46:23

      (laughs)

   4. AJAlex Jones46:23

      Here's the deal. But I'm not getting one because I don't wanna contribute to global warming. Did, I mean, so yeah.

   5. TDTim Dillon46:27

      You don't wanna contribute to global warming?

   6. AJAlex Jones46:28

      Listen, be serious. Did you know, did you know that on average more carbon is spent for electricity into a car than 93 octane gasoline? (claps)

   7. JRJoe Rogan46:41

      Well, I would believe that because I would think it, it takes a lot to make a fucking electric car, but once the car is made-

   8. AJAlex Jones46:48

      Uh, uh, oh, no, no, no. That's pa- No, no, no. Transmission lines. You lose up to half of transmission, and most of it's coal-powered, brother.

   9. JRJoe Rogan46:55

      So most of the electricity-

   10. AJAlex Jones46:57

       Per, per megawatt, it's m- it's more. Electric c-

   11. JRJoe Rogan46:59

       So when I'm plugging my Tesla in, and I think, 'cause that is how I like to think. "I'm, I'm a good guy. I'm plugging my Tesla in. I'm helping save the world." I'm not because I'm contributing to power that's-

   12. AJAlex Jones47:09

       No, you're driving... You're contributing to re- putting, putting carbon dioxide back in and oxygen and re-terraforming the planet. You're doing a badass job.

   13. JRJoe Rogan47:18

       Okay. (claps)

   14. AJAlex Jones47:18

       The biggest energy guzzlers, electric cars, are badass. They are putting out more carbon than anybody. Yeah!

   15. TDTim Dillon47:24

       (laughs)

   16. AJAlex Jones47:24

       They don't come out the tailpipe. They come out the power plant top. Woo!

   17. JRJoe Rogan47:28

       Okay, but what about-

   18. AJAlex Jones47:29

       I love electric cars. Carbon, yeah!

   19. JRJoe Rogan47:31

       Listen.

   20. AJAlex Jones47:31

       Team Carbon! Carbon! Carbon! Carbon!

   21. JRJoe Rogan47:33

       How do you feel about... Okay, how do you feel about nuclear power?

   22. AJAlex Jones47:36

       I absolutely hate it.

   23. JRJoe Rogan47:38

       Why do you hate it? Isn't it clean?

   24. AJAlex Jones47:40

       (laughs) '94... Joe, I'm not trying to tear you up.

   25. JRJoe Rogan47:44

       Don't tear me up. I don't know anything. I told you on Memorial Day.

   26. AJAlex Jones47:46

       No, no, no, no. I used to be for nuclear power.

   27. JRJoe Rogan47:48

       Oh, what happened?

   28. AJAlex Jones47:49

       I actually re- did research.

   29. JRJoe Rogan47:50

       What research did you do?

   30. AJAlex Jones47:52

       Um, they're always saying, "It's totally clean, no problem." But then you can look at the UN's own numbers, which I believe the International Atomic Energy Agency. Look this up, CBS News. 94% of nuclear plants are leaking at dangerous levels. Look this up.
10. 54:24 – 1:03:28

    Transhumanism and AI: chips in brains, autonomy, and ‘post-human’ fears

    1. JRJoe Rogan54:24

       Looking forward to the end of humanity. W- what is this? See? Okay, but it's a person who wrote this. It's Adam Kirsch, he's probably got a pistol in his mouth right now-

    2. AJAlex Jones54:32

       No, that's, that's the Wall Street Journal cover story.

    3. JRJoe Rogan54:34

       Wait, sorry, Adam. I didn't really mean that, Adam. I, I apologize.

    4. AJAlex Jones54:36

       That's the, that's the Wall Street Journal cover story. May I please tell you what I came here for?

    5. JRJoe Rogan54:40

       You came here for a reason?

    6. AJAlex Jones54:41

       Yes.

    7. JRJoe Rogan54:41

       Hold on. Here it is. "COVID-19 has spotlighted the promise and peril of transhumanism, the idea of using technology to overcome sickness, aging and death." Okay, but what is he saying? I used to fall asleep every night listening to Alex talk about this, so I wanna let Alex talk about this. Until they took him off YouTube. Okay, but make this fun. He was the way I fell asleep every night. L- listen, and, and not only did they do that, but do you know they, they, they fucking took a Young Turks podcast-

    8. AJAlex Jones55:06

       They took it off.

    9. JRJoe Rogan55:06

       ... Young Turk hosts podcast yesterday off of Facebook.

    10. AJAlex Jones55:08

        Let's talk about that in a minute. Can I ple- can we get some weed into you?

    11. JRJoe Rogan55:10

        Progressives. I w- yeah, we can get some. We got some on the outside.

    12. AJAlex Jones55:13

        No, you need it.

    13. JRJoe Rogan55:14

        No, I can't.

    14. AJAlex Jones55:14

        If I blow it at you, like a, you got a cat hi?

    15. JRJoe Rogan55:16

        Cra- cra-

    16. AJAlex Jones55:17

        Does that not cheat it if I blow it in your face?

    17. JRJoe Rogan55:19

        (laughs)

    18. AJAlex Jones55:20

        I'll blow it in your face.

    19. JRJoe Rogan55:21

        I can't do it.Listen, I'm getting kinda high from this cigar.

    20. AJAlex Jones55:24

        Well, there you go.

    21. JRJoe Rogan55:24

        Listen, I need to talk to you. I'm a little lightheaded.

    22. AJAlex Jones55:27

        All right. I'm gonna, I'm gonna go get some apple juice. (knocking on table) And I'm gonna pray to Jesus-

    23. JRJoe Rogan55:31

        We got some in here, don't we?

    24. AJAlex Jones55:32

        Listen, listen, I need to talk to you.

    25. TDTim Dillon55:34

        There's, there-

    26. JRJoe Rogan55:34

        Just go, go grab-

    27. TDTim Dillon55:34

        Yeah, yeah, get him-

    28. JRJoe Rogan55:35

        Just go grab some bottles and some ice.

    29. TDTim Dillon55:37

        Get him some apple juice for the transhumanism discussion, please.

    30. AJAlex Jones55:40

        Listen, listen. You wanna know why I'm so crazy?
11. 1:03:28 – 1:08:09

    Bohemian Grove clip: confronting David Gergen and the ‘Cremation of Care’ ritual

    1. JRJoe Rogan1:03:28

       Look at this thin, young, handsome, boyish, baby-faced Alex Jones.

    2. AJAlex Jones1:03:33

       Well, that's 2004, but yeah, I mean, I knew you in like, '99.

    3. JRJoe Rogan1:03:36

       '98. Well, in '98 was when-

    4. AJAlex Jones1:03:37

       I met you in '98, but then I got to know you in '99.

    5. JRJoe Rogan1:03:39

       This was when you were... '98 was when you were protesting-

    6. AJAlex Jones1:03:43

       And this is my clip. You guys are welcome to play this. It's really good.

    7. JRJoe Rogan1:03:46

       Yeah.

    8. AJAlex Jones1:03:47

       I'll sign a, I'll sign a form you can use it.

    9. JRJoe Rogan1:03:48

       Okay, what is, what is going on in this clip?

    10. GUGuest1:03:49

        He's interviewing a lizard.

    11. JRJoe Rogan1:03:51

        Let's, let's play this.

    12. GUGuest1:03:51

        No, this is-

    13. JRJoe Rogan1:03:52

        Let's play this.

    14. GUGuest1:03:52

        This is a lot of different newspapers and that's the Bohemian Grove.

    15. AJAlex Jones1:03:56

        You want to start it over? It's David Gergen. Let me tell you, let me set it up.

    16. JRJoe Rogan1:03:58

        Yeah, set it up.

    17. AJAlex Jones1:03:59

        Let me set it up. Let me set it up.

Episode duration: 3:11:08